Balkan Universities Were Different
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Universities are the pinnacle of human knowledge and higher education, however, not in the Balkans. Having to pay for exams, fighting for budget spots, studying day and night and having to live in cheap neglected apartments were among the many struggles of a university student in the Balkans. In this video we'll tell you stories based on true events on how Balkan universities were differnet.
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In a Greek university a professor failed everybody in the class and then made an announcement congratulating a person who ALMOST passed.
As it should be. In America students cry like babies if they get a grade that a generation ago would be considered pretty good. Source - I am a professor.
@@ao-111 because "pretty good" grades don't get you jobs when more and more students go to university with each subsequent generation
@@dulahaansmith1063 Irrelevant. The end effect of grade inflation is that they cease to signify anything at all, which is partially why "good grades" aren't going to help at all in securing employment. Your second point is actually significant, however: a series of events destroyed the meaning of university degree, paradoxically events that we lionize as progress. In America, these events are as follows - the GI bill, the Civil Rights Act, second wave feminism, and subsequent gestures toward equity. People are very quick to confuse cause and effect. A university education can only mean something if nearly no one has one, i.e., it guaranteed a good career precisely because it was once reserved for the male scions of rich families. Anyone who has ever thought that a university education is a tide that can lift all boats is delusional.
@@ao-111 Theres no debate the the end effect of grade inflation dilutes the impressiveness of a student's GPA. However, the idea that a professor should be a more strict grader in order to somehow combat this trend is absurd. What evidence is there that student's GPAs have been increasing due to lenient grading? I bring this up because that would be the only reasonable cause for a professor to intentionally grade harsher. If for example the average student performed better because technology provided better studying opportunities then I don't see how a professor would be right to artificially grade harsher.
Your second point is not something I would argue against, but not on the grounds that secondary education should be reserved for members of certain groups. Rather that a college education is expensive and generally not necessary for most jobs in practice.
@@ao-111You are clearly an example of someone that is not fit to teach. Source: I am a student
In romania in my first year a professor told me he isnt gonna try to learn our names because half of us are gonna disappear till autumn. He wasnt wrong
Legends tell that their bodies were found in the uni basement.
Standard Politechnics freshmen :))
I'm also from Romania, one of my strictest and oldest professors (she retired right after I finished my degree) made an effort to memorize our names from our first class. At the end of our first class she repeated all of our names again, to make sure she remembered everyone. She always refered to us as "future colleagues". She was very harsh with students who didn't do the work and very nice with hard working students, but always treated everyone with respect. One of my favorite professors. Most of my professors were very nice, I studied geology.
@@ismt9390 where do you work now?
The typical teacher that is going to smoke inside during courses
“I fail you because I find your surname quite irritating on this fine thursday evening.”
I am from the U.S I have actually had professors like that.
@@HoboGirl09 ye but do your professors always say "days were better when Tito ruled our country" every day
@@BosnianHeisenberg *To be fair, Brazil and I bet most of south america is the same as the balkans, except the tito thing, instead we focus on other communists*
*Nah, I take back, the professors are not SO retarded here, at least not THAT bad, but only one or two degrees less derranged*
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My personal favourite was a histology teacher giving a girl infront of me (because you need to stay in a queue for oral exams) a poor grade because and I quote "you have too many good grades". Fortunately I had no such issue, my grades were already in the gutter. Oh, I did studies in a Balkan university.
My mom told me in university a teacher said she failed her because “i already passed about half the class and i can’t pass all of you”
That's logic. I did not visit a balcan university but I early observed, when you do a course, where the majority is lazy, you have better chances to pass. Once I got a first class examination (for my opinion it was not first class), because the three guys before were not prepared and the teacher was happy, to get somebody, who really had followed his course, despite of the fact, that I was not perfect. It can be also inverse. You can have a good average result, but you don't pass, because the three guys before were really good. That's life all over the world. At least the university teacher of your mother was honest enough to admit that.
@@schurlbirkenbach1995 That makes no sense at all are you just baiting? this is honestly the most braindead take I've ever heard. How can you justify teachers sabotaging their own students, if someone has met the requirements then they should pass its as simple as that. No wonder Balkans countries are shitholes to live in if this is how they educate people lol
@@schurlbirkenbach1995 Nope, This Is Not A Competition, Exams Is All About Confirming The Knowledge Requested By The Professor On Studies. What You Say And The Competition Life Thing Is Irrelevant
@@fuckyouallnow reality is never irrelevant.
That's a classic one
As a STEM major in Bulgaria. We tracked our proffesors mood swings based on their blood sugger levels and caffeine intake. Then argued on how to assign slots on taking the oral exam or presentation. Early morning when they hadnt finished their coffees and just before the end of the day were bad slots. The worst time to get was just prior to lunch break. Best time for getting a good grade was between 1-3PM.
Sounds like a wife with an abusive husband😂
Yeah, sounds about right. It's the same in Sofia MU
😂
@@todorpaounov328good to know!
Clearly talented STEM students worth their graduation 😊👍
You forgot to add that IF your parents are politician, well known businessman or have a highly placed chair in some government company - you just have to exist to pass with 9s and 10s.
You can also enroll in a prestigious university abroad
or you get a whole new university built just for you!
While the same professors will be yelling about how they don't give two shits who your parents are
@@amiapsychopat and subsequent industries as well...
@@pelagaki97 I think, when your parents are able, to spend some millions as donations to Harvard, it will be easier with the admission to this most prestigious US university. Eastern Europeans believe sometimes, the world outside of their home region is better but that is an illusion.
University hack: Reselling cigarettes that you bought from back home where they're atleast 30% cheaper since its the countryside, will net you good connections and enough money to survive
noted.
??? isnt it a nationwide price on cigarettes? lol
@@rubyjardehDepends on the country. But I think he meant it for people traveling from a neighbouring country.
Cigarette prices are the same everywhere tho
In Hungary, the prices in the countryside are like 3-4 times higher than in the cities
The "high failure rate flex" bs is legit infuriating. Here in Greece in IT at NKUA, a 60% failure rate is considered the baseline. And, although we don't have paying for exams, in 2021 a new law was passed that made it so you get kicked out if you haven't finished your studies in N+2 years (so for a 4 year degree, you get 6 years tops).
Did the professors change their ways, knowing that they could ruin someone's life if they fail him without reason? FUCK NO!
in germany they have a nice system, where the first year exams are slightly more challanging (70 % failure or so). so if you pass this first year, then you will proberly be able to finish. Afterwards ist like 40-60 % but you can take each exam three times (two times in a semester) and the third time is usually oral (which you do not fail, if you prepare).
I had such a quantum physics professor at my physics faculty in Serbia, which was the worse "high failure flex" guy I have seen. (guy was actually quite a mediocre scientist, but somehow was a big name locally and is in the national academy of sciences). He has written his own quantum mechanics textbook where he condensed what was around 1000 pages in foreign popular quantum courses to 80 pages. Even worse, it was written so difficult that nobody could understand a thing. Even when I read through the other textbooks, I would try reading his and wouldn't understand what he wanted to say.
So anyway, one lesson he was casually bragging and telling us laughing "haha, only two people in my 40-year-long career came to me and told me they understood the textbook and both of them became my research assistants and professors in this uni". Wow man, the stupidest flex ever. Your job is literally to teach the students quantum mechanics, not to brag that in 40 years and hundreds and thousands of students, only two guys understood your textbook
That’s just illegal
@@dusankrmar3304 it usually is like that. Only mediocre scientist have to compensate with failing students. I know one Prof in Germany in theoretical physics who has 40k citations. He brags that 50% of his PhD candidates become Prof. He brags with being a good teacher not a bad one.
And one more thing. The bad scientist do not understand that it is more beneficial for them to teach good to enable career building
Assume I have 10 PhD students, of which only 3 finish, of which one stays in academia, who hates me to the guts... That person will not cite me later and cooperate with me.
Now assume I have 10phd students, all finish and like me. All will cite me. If 5 of them become Prof. They will build their groups and have PhD students themselves and keep cooperating on research giving me more citations. If each of the 5 has 10 PhD students etc.
Also I think that many Prof in Montenegro are shit. I look at their google scholar and some do not even have a paper written... Some are quite good though! And in Montenegro its more about coming across as smart instead of being smart.
@@dusankrmar3304 did u study physics?
I just finished my first year of uni in Romania, majoring in computer engineering. One of the classes I failed was because, and I kid you not, the teacher was in a bad mood. I went to the dean to report the incident and he was like "you'll have to take it up with him" (i.e. the teacher) . Of course I failed and have to retake the whole class again next year.
Sounds like the teachers "m$$d" could have been changed 😂.
Dean:"I'm not in the mood to do my job"
This happens ALL the time in Greece..
@@so1667Is it true that proffesors in Greece give instructions to students after classes? Our history teacher in primary school has told us about it one time when she got from vacation there, but is that also true for university?
I know how you feel I had to switch university because of bad teachers and their moods, get all question right and they still fail you because they just don't like you or they are in bad mood and want to ruin everyone
Funny story from my uni (Poland) at english speaking cs major. I some foreign students from third world countries. They told me that they wanted to graduate from "European University" to boost their resume back home even if uni itself is not prestigous. So I asked them "why not some cheaper balkan uni?"
"no! no! no!"
Ironically Balkan countries were themselves Third world lol. Yugoslavia (along with India) was the leader of the Non-Aligned Movement
Bro our unis haven't changed from the 70s. Like my Dad was a student during those times and he didn't have any money to buy food. So him and his roommates would go and save some money and buy margarine and a one bottle of bear if they can buy one and go at the student park. Just so you know this was during Tito's time so basically even then the students were poor.
Lmfao did they say why not?
@@antonizlatanovski1164bcause currently Poland stand more as Country then some Balkan coutries like Bulgaria or Serbia.Its just show up on paper not for knowledge its self.When i was duing my architecture at that time in Yugoslavia nobody wanted to go to Polandnor to study nor to visit.
There are Indian, Pakistani and African students over here in Kragujevac, Serbia. I have no idea what the fuck are they doing over here, but by observing their appearance, I realized they were rich. Imagine studying in a shithole European country, in a town that's best known for making the worst car of all time (a Yugo, which I daily drive lol), just to tell your relatives and friends back home that you're studying in Europe. lol
500 views in 5 minutes? Bro fell off
real
skill issue
This u🎉
nah
Romania is not balkan
I actually had a math professor in the US who came from the Balkans that bragged about how few people passed his class so that part is 100% true.
Be grateful it was just the one
I never understood this, you're trying to brag about your own incompetence as a teacher. Like imagine a surgeon saying only 10% of his patients survived operations.
@@kaminsod4077bro common sense doesn’t exist in the Balkans what are you even talking about😂
The thing is that most students are lazy and in most cases they wouldn't study no matter what. They would put the bare minimum of studying and then hope to pass the exam. So the idea of the professor was that he is not letting the lazy students pass.
Romanian here. Was accepted at kinetotherapy, not just for free, but they would pay me to attend. But I had a dream! School psychologist/career advisor was my dream job. So I PAID to be accepted in a private, modern university, with money made in Germany every summer break, destroying my health. I studied really hard and, after finishing, I found that the university lost their licence and only half of my degree was valid, thus not being able to work in a school. Also, half the people graduating never attended classes. 3 years, 10.000euros, never practiced a day in my life.
fuck, im sorry to hear this :(...
Doamne fereste ce nenorocire
If you believe a private university in Romania is better than a state one, you were a fool.
@@mimisor66 true but still, you have got to feel sorry for him
Very sorry to hear this brother, I believe there is an ever growing bubble of "universities" or other such institutions that claim to give you a bachelor's or master's degree, only for them to close down after 2-3 years and make that degree obsolete. I don't know if it's just a balkan thing, but it is extremely frustrating to see so many young kids having wasted so much of their time, money and effort. Once again, I'm very sorry to hear this brother.
Sounds like the Indian education system has a competitor in sadism
Mate, I had a teacher who failed me because "I was too confident and too acurate on answers and she wanted to see if i'm the same if I have diferent questions"
You can't beat that🙌😂😂😂
Wow truly sadistic
Also Myanmar education system
Thats why i say that this balkan university is hell even you are smart and consistent in your learning. The audacity of some professors - pure agony, misery, hell. Jesus have mercy on us when we die, cause living and studying here is serving in hell.
Also i had some very good friends at uni, pure 9s and 10s, they left after 4 months, than rest followed which check out with what Janos just said in a video - they were really good and egoistic professors fail stundents and exams, bcs they can, or because you didnt buy their book or event atend (or go) to extra classes for few moths which are, guess again, paid so prof. would then let you pass. Also, most of prof's were dirty old fucks and pervs preying on us , soo we left...
The stuff i heard and seen there - horrors beyond human comprehension.
But, there were also some very good ones, true MVPs, which wisdom and knowlegde i use even today.
@@bogdanbaluta4202 This sounds too much like my profs in India. Do they secretly communicate with balkan profs 💀
The "Failing people for ego" is so painfully true.
Belgrade ETF here, I can tell so many horror stories about professors setting BS exams.
There was a notorious instance where a professor passed all students with a POSITIVE number of points on an exam. It was that bad.
I had a professor who gave us questions from the footnotes. Others are straight up throwing the exams on the desk and those who fell off will fail.
Same place, Quantum Physics class. second year. At the very beginning, the prof told with a voice as it he's reading the weather forecast that there were terms where noone passed the exam. And it was a written exam. When I was there, the toughest class was 'Electronics' on second year. Exam consisted of two parts: first, the eliminatory one, was solving problems (4 problems, all of them with a, b, c and d subproblems to solve); the second, so called "oral" exam was also written one with about 10 questions to answer, 2 for each of the major topics from the curriculum. You had to have all topics with passing grade to pass the whole exam. This was the largest class in the entire five year studies because there were multiple generations of studenst attending the class (those who litteraly had only that one exam to pass to 'clean up' the year and this subject was mandatory so one could not change it for some other subject). Of course, there was the book. In the introduction of the book it was literally writen the following: "This book was written as the Teaching council of the School of Electrical Engineering decided that each subject must have accompanied textbook. We, the authors, do not guarantee that the text in this textbook is at all correct." This textbook was rather big, and one of the topics was "Microelectronics", that is the physics behind diodes, transistors and other active elements. One of the two questions in the "oral" exam part for the topics of Microelectronics was to write and explain some equation describing the number of electrons and "holes" in the P and N structures depending, IIRC, on the element used as a donor. This was mentioned in the textbook in, I kid you not, one whole sentence! Of course I failed the exam. BTW, the tactics to pass the eliminatory first part of the exam (problem solving) was to go after that part is finished and results are published to complain to the professor. The secret was that the Electronics equations for solving are usually approximations (since variation in real values of components can be off sometimes even by 50% from the nominal value), and, as I've learned years after, "if you cannot calculate all the values of a circuit on a piece of a napkin, then your circuit is wrong". Therefore, if you used to derive equations and go with precise values, the professor (and his assistants who graded your work) would simply skip what you written if there were too much math. So you have to complain to show them that your solution was correct. More often then not, your grade will be corrected and you would pass to the second part. This would be, perhaps, much easier to accept (the approximations and estimations, not the complaining) as it is how engineers really work, if there was another mandatory subject in the same year "The circuit theory", which overlapped in topics with the Electronics but it's professor had the opposite attitude - if you skip to write just one step in deriving the math for the solution, your entire solution would be graded as failed even if the rest of the math and entire calculation was correct.
But my late father, who studied at the same place just after the WWII had it the best - he had an oral exam and started answering, I think it was chemistry (he studied metalurgy but it was the same school as electrical engineering, they have separated later). First, second, third question...then fourth, fifth, sixth, which was double then other student (usually three questions, from the hat as in the video, with perhaps some additional questions by the professor). After a while, my father, who was exhausted from all that talking, asked the professor: "Please, professor, just give me the 6 (the lowest passing grade), I don't know anymore what are you asking of me!" and the professor replied "Oh, dear colleague, you have alredy got 10 (the highest grade) after the third question but I lived for a while in the part of the country you're from and they have the most beautiful accent so I wanted to listen to it to remember the good times!".
Sarajevo ETF here... I can so feel these comments... both the ego failing and I've heard many stories about "throwing papers into the air, and which one the professor catches, end up passing"
@@likesgames123 ja sam tri sedmice dolazio frajeru da mi upise ocjenu druze meni plata 315 maraka tad bila a povratna bila 11.80KM svaki put kaze dodji u 7 ujutru ja dodjem frajer nece da me primi sjedim do 2 poslijepodne i dodje mi i kaze haj dodji sutra. TRI JEBENE SEDMICE SVAKI FAKING DAN. Jebeni profa urgentne medicine na UKCSu u Sarajevo.
@@h-run1751 To se nekome plati da mu izravna kicmu i izbije bahatost iz glave.
Balkan professor: "I am very tough. A lot of students fail in my class."
American professors: "Ah, so you suck at your job. Weird flex."
Everything is backwards in the Balkans, the people here are basicly retards
I had one Serbian professor for an advanced math/engineering class at the University of Florida where the average pre-curve final grade was a 25%. I was able to eke out an 'A' with a solid 52%, the lowest grade I was ever given. Exam rooms were always permeated by the omnipresent sound of muffled crying.
i smell weakness... westernoid weakness
Cries of skill issues
@@Kosta-rz7uxcries in skill issue sounds more natural
It is funny cause I was in the exact same situation here in Germany 8 years ago, sometimes I still have nightmares about that class
i did half a year of balkan military academy, i left after: i went to the infirmary i thought i had a bad cold, they told me i was faking it, 6 hours later and being forced to go out in just a shirt in middle of winter, i had a seizure, almost swallowed my tongue , a 7 hours blackout and got diagnosed with meningo-encefalitus, which has a 20% death percentage , 2nd night in the hospital i tore my back tendon which would result in my expulsion... i still had to pay 3000 euros for leaving..... so it was fun=))
Jesus, bro. They didn't care about you at all!
@@Chan-zn7wbtypical military academy experience in EE
As someone who is in a Hungarian Medical School rn, could confirm this is true af
hungary ain't nearly balkan
As a Hungarian in uni right now, I was told that there are now minimum quotas given to professors about how many students need to pass.
@@yossribelhedi5373 It is by behavior .
@@yossribelhedi5373 i'm guessing you're new to this channel, otherwise you would know just how wrong you are
@@atorvp64 Yup. That's why my professor would pass the last guy on the list each exam. Three majors, three students each week.
Nice one. There was also a rumor in Romania , that some students in university, all from the same class gathered money from themselves to buy a small Daewoo Matiz to pass an exam. When the day had come, one of them went to the teacher an told him, look teacher if you pass us, see that green brand new Daewoo Matiz, this are the keys of it, it's yours. Than the teacher went, look dude, see these keys from that outside BMW 3 series? Well, if you pass the exam, the car is for you all. Great and funny story
Born and raised in Balkan!
Finished elementary school!
Finished high school!
College graduate!!
And, yes,...still sleeping with the lights on..
why
@@leisuregamer1419 because my friend...all that years in school/college so much money and time has been wasted.., so many opportunities, constant battle with old-fashioned learning style, taking notes, study all day every day while being under my parents roof,...so many Balkam problems like corruption in the system and all those lazy professors that lectures you like it's 1954..you turn on the news and nothing positive...you go through all that and plenty of more ..and in the end you're back on the street..
Find a job, obtain what it takes to get a job, then learn how to do the job( I'm on IT..)...all by yourself because 90% of learned in school or college os useless...especially in college..most of the learning is just here ...to complete the professors puzzle..you learn it, you pass the exam and the it fades away...
Most of the time I ask myself "what would have been if all that hard work instead of college was putted in my profession.." ...well my friend life goes on..
I don't get the joke
With a name like Charlie I don’t think you’re from here
@@NMT_7543 it's a childhood's nickname...by the way I'm Serbian..
My IT-Network teacher wanted me to repeat the year for no reason. I was in my last year and he told me "see you next year" and I asked "why". He said "because I said so"... long story short, I passed the exam by telling my teacher that my friend which was at the door recorded our conversation and I'll show it to the principle and people higher up. I told him "worst case.. I repeat this year and pay for tuition but with your money" Best 5 mins of my life:)
Memorizing dozens of equations was the absolute worst thing. 😂😢 Failed industrial engineering, transfered to cyber security and got bachelor's and all this took me only 10 years lmao.
Average student experience
The education system is designed to make factory workers, and i assure you. There are no factories in brazil.
budala jedna xD
@@LivingIronicallyinEuropesomething tell me you are going to get a lot of Indian people in your comment section because that is the average Indian University experience as well
Bruh imagine going to uni for 10 years. wtf
Once had a professor fail a room of 60 students cause his neighbor upstairs had a water leak and it ruined his walls.
about the pre-historic teachers, I have a lot of stories from uni but lemme tell you 2 from one teacher, wich I had the fortune to have her all 3 years. First one, she didnt passed me and 4 of my uni friends because we "didnt attent" her seminari at 8 in the morning during covid when everything was in online, she wouldnt write down the present people, she would let fucking microsoft teams do that for her and for some reason, even tho we were there all her seminaries we somehow missed 4 (FOUR), and ofc, we had to pay those missed ones and re-attend them next year. Second one, this a very known story in the whole uni, some years ago, her cat died, and instead of digging her a grave or going to a pet cemetery, SHE PUT THE CAT IN THE FREEZER, BECAUSE AS SHE SAID, THE SOIL WAS TOO COLD, it was november during that time, so yeah, very fun times in UniBuc
Imagine her husband opening the freezer to thaw some chicken for tomorrow & there's just the dead cat lying there
@@LivingIronicallyinEurope
You are awesome, love you vids man. I’m blessed enough to go to a Scandinavian Universityin my city.
Here we get to redo a test infinite times for free.
Because our education up to university level is free.
Thank god. 😂
@@LivingIronicallyinEurope Thats if she has a husband. Whoever is her husband if she has one, I pity his soul.
Average UniBuc experience
@@LivingIronicallyinEurope "her husband" XD
I was failed today by my sh*t professor on a "special exam" in Medical University, which will force me to gamble away another year of my life. This video came up just in time... hopefully, my non-fluent in English parents can watch it and relate a little and stop trying to mess everything up for me even more.
Ouch! My parents also not dear to me either. They expected me to finish law school in 5 years like what it's written it takes to graduate, but I just finished a bad year and I guess I need at least 5 more years to finish. 🥵 Bc they have no idea what is like going to the university.
You can use youtube auto translate english->serbian. It's not great but it gets the point across
How much did you *actually* study for the exam though?
@@floricel_112 I had months to prepare. The textbook is 400 pages with 95 topics spread scross it. I reread the whole thing 4 times and I went through it again to write down "shortened" versions of those 95 topics in a notebook I could use as a more systemised and easy to understand way of rereading them. And finally, for the ABCD test part there were two notebooks issued from 2013 to 2018 filled with example questions. I went through them as well. Still not enough, apparently...
Indian?
Forgot to mention: when your friend who can't speak a lick of english still makes 4x your salary as a delivery driver abroad.
that's not a flex, your english illiterate friend pays 4x your rent in rent, and probably can't leave the supermarket without spending $100. People just "get by" with the likes of 60K annual salary in USA, but for most european countries only a filthy rich person makes as much.
My mom went to university in Belgrade in the early 90's, right as the hyperinflation and Yugoslav wars started. She told me that the university couldn't afford even the most basic amenities. Her freshman year, she roomed in a quad dorm with 5 people and had to walk 1km away to another building from her dorm to use the campus toilet, which was just a slightly elevated hole in the ground similar to a port-a-potty.
Balkans stay in school please education is important
No. We get our education from kafana and online nationalism.
Stay in school, I cannot. Do trucking in Germany, I can.
Damn your profile picture reminds me of an "reddit war"💀💀
Bro we are able to work when we are 13/4 years old. Basically 80% of kids get part time jobs when they're 13/4 and they get a higher pay then real people with fixed jobs
@@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwaveyes man
This is why I argued with most of my professors at uni in Romania. I played the crazy card and I dared them to fail me and cope with me. I was not trapped there with them, they were trapped there with me. Challenging them in front of the whole class was their nightmare. I refused to be the victim.
you are locked in here with me
A professor from my University once failed a girl for wearing a skirt that was too short...
I can relate. Seen a student in a bra "top" come to uni one day. Really wanted to tell her to put a shirt on. Also, when I was in high school, the math teacher kicked out one of my classmates for wearing sweatpants, something I wholeheartedly agree with. :D
The no horny dodge
I had coleagues who were kicked out from exam(and failed) for not wearing a tie🫤
@@bogdanbaluta4202 Are you British?
@@krunoslavkovacec1842romanian
This sounds suspiciously like my engineering degree in my American University.
Pay through the nose if you're not the best of the best? Check.
Stressed out of your mind because your scholarship will disappear if your grades dip? Check.
Professors whose sole purpose in life is to NOT teach anything? Check.
Classes are ridiculously difficult for no reason other than to "weed out the weak" (also known as milking people for extra tuition money when they retake classes)? Check.
Except I wasn't able to drink my sorrows away, I had too much homework to do.
Do I qualify as an honorary Balkan student?
did you fail a class because the teacher was lead drunk when evaluating your paper?
Yes, welcome to the Balkans, honorary brother! 🎉🎉
The difference is that in America, they cannot fail you for doing well. In the balkans, they will fail anybody because they want to. If you get a 60% in the class, you passed the class with a D- while in the balkans, you could get a 90% in the class and fail.
As an engineering student from the Balkans - Yes, yes you do.
In that case, may I qualify as an honorary Balkans computer science dropout? I was so traumatized from my American undergraduate experience that I didn't go back to school for 12 years.
Interestingly, I recently went to another school and got the same education in two master’s degrees for less money. I graduated with a 3.9 GPA.
What if instead of high school, we have Balkan Academy?
no one would survive to adulthood
@@baller3443only the toughest
gg
My grandfather went to Zagreb in the 70's to teach Chemical Engineering at their university from the US. Apparently, they really liked that he tried to break high GPAs. His students liked that he was willing to share his Marlboros.
How much you wanna bet they're still using the same textbooks in that program?
Profs receive ~30% from exam fees, they cant let their paypigs pass too much
In Cluj, my Organic Chemistry teacher who was in his 80s said he would only retire when they'd name one of the faculty buildings after him. He looks like Ayatollah Khomeini but less kind and tolerant. And of course, he's still teaching.
Politehnica university of bucharest graduate here...The payment thing fell off lately in my experience, when i enrolled in 2016 there were still like 10 empty subsidised spots for the robotics degree. Same with industrial engineering, fabrication technologies, and a few other branches. There were just not enough students. I paid nothing in my 6 years there (4 for bachelor, 2 for masters).
Also there wasn't much time for alcohol or hanging out, most hanging out i've ever done was for 1 hour max after we finished class, but then again, you have 44-50 hours/week, quite a shock for a fresh high school graduate
The misery and depression part is on point tho
I'm visiting all polytechnic universities for 2 weeks thanks to a project called "UPB". I don't have a good feeling about continuing to university... unless if I get a good friend that we can help each other with studies and can chill around. Maybe another one because you could be accused of being gae. If it's also my roommate, it's just perfect
2012 UPB Graduate here, that's because Regie has become a lifeless prison, full of scared bookworms that don't have the slightest idea of what fun is. There are no more clubs/discos where you could go dance, drink cheap beer, we didn't have doormen acting like prison guards, no cameras on the hallways....
My high school physics teacher told us he had a uni professor that would climb the walls of the auditorium using a chair and walk along the indent made for windows. He did this to catch cheaters. Dude was so old by that point, I think around 65, so he had to walk along the ledge with his walking stick... I cannot imagine how funny and scary that must have been for the students. Also, it was a 5 hour organic chemistry exam (he was majoring in physics btw). Another time he told us a story from his friend who had majored in economics at some other university, his professor decided to have 700 students take the exam at the same time, that's how little he cared, some students were taking the exam outside the room and some even fully outside the uni. The exam lasted like 3 hours. Almost everyone cheated, he wasn't even present most of the time. This solo professor with one assistant somehow had the exam results ready next day at 7am... Wanna know how he pulled off this miracle? He threw the tests on his desk and the ones that fell on the floor failed and the ones that remained on the desk passed... Couldn't make this shit up. Dude told us all the names of these, now long dead professors btw, can't remember many though.
Ahh, the fell on the floor is a classic. I don't know if we heard about the same instance or it's just that common, but upperyears used to scare us with that story when we were freshmen. We also had a teacher who was selling his book on the subject, and had the list of who bought it. There was a rumor he only passed the students who bought his book, which actually contained some inaccuracies. If you pointed that out, you also failed the exam.
Law school in Romania and the experience was pretty similar to what you describe. We had a civil law professor (woman) who liked oral exams. She would grill the majority of the students but had a soft spot for the ones who were the kids of the legal élite of the city. I will never forget one time there was this guy, a total jerk, he always skipped classes and never knew s**t and when his turn came the teacher asked him the easiest questions and he stuttered answering everything wrong. At the end she says, looking at the rest of us, well at least he has a great suit (his parents were loaded) and gave him a 9/10.
i study law in slovenia and i will never forget how in my second year during covid i had an oral exam through zoom and i had to recyte the definition of criminal guilt and some other definitions of my mind and in the first attempt proffesor failed me because i didn't get one word right then i tried again a month later and i actually managed to recite it correctly but then he said to me that he thinks i am cheating and i had it written down somewhere
I am a Romanian and I went for Romanian-American University, learning, of course, in Romanian cause it is cheaper than in English. I am trying to major in Computer Science in Economics which basically is economy and programming. The university is very good, very good and understandable teachers, although sometimes there are slip ups with the teachers, and the tuition fee wasn't much, not for me at least, as I signed a contract for a 1.2k euro tuition fee which the very next year went up to around 3k euro, but they aren't allowed to change my tuition. Although what I said might sound good, this period of my life had been the absolute most depression period ever. I have been unable to make any sort of a friend at that University as it feels like most of the people are there to get it done and then be out, nobody is there to make friends or socialize, and frankly I heavily miss my highschool days, despite the bad teachers, the chaos and the noise in the classroom that would ring in my ears when I would try to sleep at night like some sort of a PTSD, my grades that allowed me to barely pass, my buddies there and so much more...
since i toured it with my dance group and bc of the korean group
What's the university you are studying at?
@@northsoul9749 i am curently in 7th grade, idk why but my first comment got deleted, but in it i said i wanted to go to ur uni
Bro literally went to the scummiest private uni this country has to offer lmao
@@SomebodyOnRUclipse It is a good university but it can be pretty expensive. There are spots with free tuition but you'll still have to pay the amount you'd usually be required the pay which will be given back to you later. Getting those spots with no tuition tax also is a headache as every semester you need high grades, partake into activities and make 2 side projects for 2 classes you have that semester. Other than that it is a very good university, but even this university can have some shitty teachers (I am year 3 and year 2 was kind of tough for me).
I feel seen. I studied at the University of Belgrade almost a decade ago, and this still triggered my PTSD. I traded my sanity and few years of lifespan to stay on "budzet". Periodically I have nightmares of having to take some more exams or that something is wrong with my degree. Amazing video.
In Romania, at least the University I went to there was an exam retake fee that was a flat 60€.
Cambridge C1 Advanced was 350 euros ☠️ took me a while to recover financially
Oh my god .... And here I thought that my uni's policy was bad... I always found it stupid that we have to pay 20€ to retake an exam to improve our grade but at least they only charge you if you fail to improve 😅 (if you had already failed the class you don't have to pay even if you don't improve). But 60€!? That is MADNESS
And i study for free in the west🗿
@@JoeMamaisgae same here. If you fail an exam you get to take it again once for free. But fail that you need to repay to retake it.
@@claudiafernandes1150 Tell me about it. I know a guy that retook the same exam over and over again, at the start of the next semester the teacher that was driving a new car and we were joking that he paid for the teacher's lease
I did go to the university in the Balkans. I actually had a "this would be a 7, but I'll fail you because you could do way better". She even said it as if it was a favor. Yay.
My Romanian uni. years were fine. It was just one incident at PhD when the living mistress of a dead professor asked me who taught me nuclear physics at undergraduate, then was very dissapointed that it wasn't the God Emperor of humankind. She explained to me that I can't possibly know nuclear physics since I did not study with "the great professor who is unfortunately not among us anymore". I exited the exam and kindly asked the administration to take it with another professor; a request which was granted and things went on normally after that.
Meanwhile in the UK, everyone gets accepted to university even if you fail all of your exams, and everyone will graduate university even if you fail your exams... the catch is that the degree is useless due to everyone being graduating, and it costs you £27,000+ for the 3 years + £18,000 in accommodation fees leaving you almost £50,000 in debt with high interest rates :D
so you are basically legally buying your degree... 🤣
How are jobs in engineering, programming, and other STEM fields?
@@ade9597 almost entirely concentrated into London, extremely competitive due to the oversaturation of degrees and they pay 50% less than other tech hubs like in U.S., Japan, Sweden etc
@@edisirio506 yeh basically. i'm actually a lecturer at a university and some of my students were unbelievably unqualified to be on the course. yet I was basically nudged into giving them "fair" grades for "effort" because otherwise the data looks terrible with them getting failed. 40% means you get a degree and a huge chunk of students get precisely that grade lol it's kinda dystopian
@@calumvaughan8690 the concentration of STEM jobs probably depends on the field tbh. I've just finished MSc in Transport/Civil Engineering in one of northern English unis, and most of my mates didn't have any issues finding jobs outside of London. I agree about the pay though, it's pretty bad, especially at a graduate level.
Same goes for trying to pass unqualified students, it probably depends on the uni and the degree. My MSc course has the average of 45% (with the passing grade being 50), and that seems to reflect the level of many of my coursemates who, uhm, seem to struggle to even form a coherent sentence in English.
SO relatable! Bulgarian Medical University - Sofia, is the name of my curse. I STILL have nightmares from professors who terrorized, insulted, humiliated, and ripped apart every and any student they encounter.
A particularly nasty piece of work was the head of Analytical Chemistry Department, professor Tencheva. She would call us idiots, undeserving of her attention, slobs, cheats, pigs, fake students who are so dumb they would be kicked out from "A normal Faculty of Pharmacy". What a normal Faculty of Pharmacy is, and why wasn't she teaching there instead of lashing out on us, remains a mystery. She loved calling us Market Pharmacists, instead of the actual title - Master Phaarmacist, to remind us how she despised us and what corrupt, incompetent, market-oriented poisoners we would become.
She smoked like a chimney even during oral exams, puffing smoke in students' faces.
I rewrote the Roxette song "Dangerous" in her honor, and if she had found out it was me who penned it, I'd be sweeping the streets now, with chemical burns from an acid attack, instead of being a pharmacist. Text is as follows:
Hold your nose,
You know she's a little bit Tencheva,
She's put on Earth to make your heart bleed,
Oh, Lord, she's extremely Tencheva!
When she died (lung cancer from smoking 🚬 of course), the entire Medical University - Faculties of Pharmacy, Medicine and Dentistry cheered and celebrated her death. No one had a good thing to say about her. It was such a surreal, morbid celebration!
The other Cerberus in our Faculty was the Head of Pharmaceutical chemistry, who was rotten and corrupt to the core. Plamen Peikov. He flunked students left and right, so they would be forced to bribe him. 400 EUR for a semestrial exam. He didn't even give us written lectures and materials to study from, because of copyright issues. The State of 🇧🇬 Bulgaria paid 5-figure tuition each year to this university, so I would become a competent pharmacist. I passed unbelievably tough exams to do so as well. But no, some professors DID NOT provide us with anything to actually READ and LEARN from. We had to spend hours writing what he was dictating during lectures.
Oooohhh...
Still get nightmares man. Still.
Sorry for the text block. Hugs from brother Bulgaria 🇧🇬 to brother Serbia 🇷🇸!
Звучи ужасно
Wow, this only makes me happier that I didn't choose to enrol in MU for my MPharm degree but instead opted out for another uni that had an MPharm programme. I have colleagues who studied in MU, and they've been sharing similar horror stories to yours, so I'll be screenshotting this to ask them if they knew said professors. 😅 We had our share of absurdities, but it was NEVER this foul. Still, I understand the PTSD, I completely relate to it. In fact, most of us do. Успех и само усмивки! ❤
@@354el Subtle violence threats worked wonders for us at my Uni.
this sounds exactly like Italian university! Italy unofficial balkan
You're in luck, we (Romania) would put in a good word for you in the acceptance committee 😆
Maybe you mean the south of Italy haha
At least I finally have two biologist diploma (BSc and MSc) after 6 years of studying, so I can have a job with higher wage than an Aldi cashier, right? RIGHT?
Meanwhile dude that dropped out of university and was raking salary twice as high while having life:
You forgot to mention if you are showing promise in the field you are studying the assistant professors fail you because they see you as a threat.
That’s so funny 😭💔
@@mueezadam8438 suffering from success man. The main professors first words in the class were..."you know for 8.I know for 9 and God knows for 10.lets begin." And i was the only one in that generation that got a 10 in all the subjects he was majoring.I freaked out and was super pumped cuz I thought hey this might be my calling in life. And then.....the next two years, major ultra super duper skull fucking from the assistants who worked for him because he had to go on chemo cuz he got cancer. They hated my guts.
Med school in Croatia. Oh boy. Exams were hell. There was a rare chill exam, those were more memorable, one time a professor said he was gonna smoke during the oral exam and asked if any of us wanted to as well, and some did. Also, if you live in the city where the university is, you don’t really have to aim for a high GPA to maintain a spot in student dorms, so after first year a lot of us stopped caring about the GPA, and just aimed for any passing grade. In the end, once you’re an MD, nobody cares what your GPA was.
Same dude...25 years ago I finished mathematics and computer science in Romania and some teachers always failed you, but luckily at Spiru Haret the bribe to pass an exam was 100-150$... God bless Mrs. secretary Beti !!! Those of you who have passed by Beatrice's office know well! 😉
Romania, Iasi, Computer Science from 2000-2006. Your video pretty much sums it up.
Oh no
ok boomer
Croatian student there, there is a teacher that has been teaching at my uni for like almost 20 years now and you can pass her class but the max grade you get is a 2 (only 1 is a fail), but the like 5.0 GPA (the highest grade) student can pass her class with a 2+, not even a 3. In my generation only one girl got the 2+ grade, the rest of us barely passed or passed next year.
Before applying for the university you take private lessons from the Dean for 2 years so you develop a style easily recognizable so when you apply you got in the 20 tuition free spots. Also professors come to class drunk and come at the last 5 minutes and get mad you dont know the material. It's such *********
A friend of mine in Croatia was just telling me the other day that he got failed after acing an exam, but when the professor asked him a random question and his wording was not 100% exactly what the dinosaur had in his mind, the man flunked him then and there.
You would think if these institutions were so strict that the Balkans would produce a class of people capable of lifting those lands out of the muck. Alas.
Well, they are growing at a higher pace than most of the world, so your premise is wrong.
It might also be the fact that educated people are leaving these shitty countries, so there aren't many people to "lift those lands out of the muck".
I did a geography degree and i got the lucky ticket in uni, most of my teachers were pretty young, 35-50, and were pretty feed up they themself with the system, they appreciated the open mindedness of the students when it came to the curriculum witch was pretty cool, also when it came to practice days the students were nothing compared with the teachers when it came to drinking, they drank like there was no tomorrow, and tomorrow we had to climb mountains.
As a former student in Romania in 2 different universities, I can relate wholeheartedly with this depiction. Every. Last. Word.
And yet, in many western countries these days, a lot of the nurses, doctors, enginneers, managers are of balkan origin. 😂
we are just better , stronger , smarter
Maybe. But I think there’s also something more to the wducation system. In the west, everyone gets a 5 so they all feel equal even if one doesn’t know how to write and another is way ahead of the class. Or they divide people by classes, backgrounds, priviledged, etc in order to create some kind of forced equality of outcomes.
*insert quote from Leo Szilard about the Martians here*
Hah, previous comment disappeared. I was saying that the western education system is 💩
No, that’s Asian you’re thinking of
“Several thousand for tuition” those are rookie numbers ~ Americans
Several thousands used to be average yearly income or higher than average income - depending on how much exactly it was :) . Not anymore tho - ifnlation is high as fuck but at least the university fees remained the same and are relatively cheaper now.
That is a lot of money for balkans. Salaries are very low. It is cheap for an American or a Westerner with salaries in $ and EUR
You forget about their average wage
@@esrbin95 college tuition in America is a much higher proportion of the average citizen’s per capita income than tuition is in any country including the Balkan ones, so yeah even controlling for that factor we have it worse
@@dianai1296 it’s still a much lower proportion of their income than is the case in America
You kinda forgot the biggest component to many Balkan universities, corruption.
A very common practice in Romanian Universities.
Biggest reason on why i had to drop out from uni.
explain
@@alex_brg7680 If you refer at what i meant by corruption, kinda goes self explanatory:
1. You can be ridiculed for nothing.
2. Have different evaluation standards applied to you, because (and I think you know what I'm referring to) you didn't pay the "dreptu' de smecher" before the exams.
3. Many get passing grades just because the teacher has relations with their parents or they're affiliated in some way (in this case, in a political party).
4. And let's not forget the sexual harassment cases or the abuse of power in these institutions.
I may or may not have some errors in grammar or writing, if so please mention.
@@PavlovPaul Nah, I wanted to know how that affected you and why dropping out was a necessity
@@alex_brg7680 Ah, in my case, being ridiculed + i had some struggles financially so i couldn't pay up "dreptu' de smecher", therefore my exams weren't evaluated correctly ( for example: I got a -3 on a written exam, and I am not joking on that note), resulting in failing all of my classes.
Now i am working as a Fraud Analyst with a pretty good pay, and saving up to study abroad.
@@alex_brg7680 Ok, so my reply didn't got registered, so I have to re-write this again.
In my case, i was ridiculed + i was struggling financially, so i couldn't pay "dreptu' de smecher", therefore my exams didn't received a correct evaluation ( for example i got a -3 on a written exam), leaving me with 0 promoted courses.
Now i am working as a Fraud Analyst, with a good pay, saving up for studying abroad.
Polish universities see some of the both worlds. What I'll say is about my uni and it may vary when compared to others:
WESTERN "SOME":
- most lecturers were passionate about their subject
- most students on my major are free-of-tuition (maybe it's the uniqueness of my major, I don't know)
- exams are free, only conditional passes (passing to the next year, but you must retake the failed subjects) and year retaking is paid
- although student dorm rooms are tiny, we're doing fine and the atmosphere in the kitchen is also great. Btw they're renovated, I'm just sad, that every other room is renovated and not mine and I pay the same rent as everyone else
BALKAN "SOME":
- some professors like to fail students just because they must improve university's finances by forcing students on conditional passes, but they must be cautious, because there's a minimal quota, that must pass if they go below that the term of the exam will be invalid and we'll be entitled to the additional term. Before professors were observed, how they grade us there was a time, where apparently they'd throw the exam papers in the air and which papers will land on the desk will get a 4, which land on the chair will get a 3 and which will fall on the floor will be failed without checking the answers
- parties look basically the same (with smaller group we usually go to the bar for cheap beer or when the whole year gathers we've come near a lake, some take a swim some make a campfire, some play music, some play beer games and so on)
- huge culture of taking food from our parents (with that before I stopped being scrooge I could live a whole week on 20 PLN)
PS Not to mention I'm in the university with one of the most amount of scandals in Poland, including mobbing, molestation and lecturers on the verge of being arrested because of at-work-malpractice
i had the same experiences from Hungary, and one word: Słoik xDD
I've just graduated from glorious IT uni a few days ago after having it delayed by a year because of one exam I didn't pass because I scored 0.15 points less than I should of, even tho it was above the passing grade because one of the professors didn't see a java class I wrote in one mid term test because of his ass pc or something even though it was clearly there. So I had to retake the entire class and delay my graduation by a year and pay 150 euros to enlist for an extra year, 100 for the exam I had to retake and 250 to take the exam for the bachelor paper, 500 total. At least I didn't pay a dime during the previous years.
I'm studying to become a nurse in Austria. I get paid almost the same amount as if I'd already be working as a registered nurse. Being a Serb I've heard stories about student life in Belgrade being like this ever since.
I'm very fortunate that my parents are doing everything they can to keep my in a university outside of the balkans...but I feel for all my mates who study back home in Romania, bc the absurdity and robbery that happen in universities are mind boggling...
Idk how I did it, but all my profesors in Cluj are young and cool 😎 also didn’t encounter the corruption part.. yet. Good luck on your studies
I guess I got pretty lucky studying computer science at UBB Cluj. Most of the professors were alright (there really is something wrong with the old ones everywhere for some reason tho), there were plenty of budgeted spots, and you also get paid money if your grades are in the top 20 or so. You also only had to pay to retake a class if you failed the exam twice, and absences only made you fail the class if you had too many if them. The buildings were kind of falling apart (there's some corruption thing going on) and the student dorms are kinda bad from what I heard.
The part with the professor who fails you for no reason is true. My thermodynamics professor was known for failing lots of students and generally allowing only 3 or 4 to pass. One exam he called 4 students for an oral examination ( they had to present one of the 30 lessons we have been teached) to raise their exam score. All of them presented a lesson of their choice, one of them got told "you can't present that, choose something else" but none of them got the exam in the end.
from what I know in romania the first exam is free, but if you fail you have to pay to retake the exam
Same in Moldova, if I remember correctly.
In the Law department of my university (Greece) the classrooms are too small for the amount of students. This led to a student falling off a 3rd floor window because he was standing in front of it and was accidentally shoved. Thankfully he's ok now
This is why we are so resourceful in Central Europe. You have to work hard, be smart, learn, adapt and drink at the same time. Not to mention living away from parents, learning to live alone rapidly..
Pre-existing roomates😂 that shit is relatable af
you sound 16 and look 35. how old are you?
I look 35 at 24 .
pozdrav iz hrvatske
57 & have a hernia
My uni teacher failed my design work for a small line (blueprints) i reviewed it with another teacher and she was gobsmacked when se didn't found any errors....Lovely teachers....
Also I was not smoking at all....means getting them and selling them after? I had the money for actual food....still had to cook it...
4:25-4:30 this is an actual nightmare I've had in my final year of college: the teacher breaking into my house to listen to my very important presentation (which determines if I fail the subject or not) in front of my strict, judgemental parents
4:45-4:58 this isn't a nightmare I've had, IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO ONE OF MY GROUP MATES. This particular student chose her subject, researched it very thoroughly, with charts and graphs and a lot of other corroborating evidence/examples, presented her case flawlessly, answered EVERY question the teacher had for her; and the teacher in turn praised her for her efforts and presentation.....THEN FAILED HER ANYWAY BECAUSE "the subject matter was too banal for her level" AND HAD HER COME UP WITH A TOUGHER TOPIC FOR NEXT WEEK. That girl had been PUNISHED for being a GOOD STUDENT! And yes, it was the same teacher from my nightmares. Heck, that kind of behaviour is exactly what gave me nightmares about him
5:40-5:58 yup......not even surprised....
I am from the Balkans, but went to a western university for exacrty the reasons mentioned in the video. If was failed by a proffessor the way the narrator mentioned, probably I would have immidiately repay my debt to him, if you know what I mean.
Great video. Watching it makes me even happier about studying in Denmark. I get paid by the state to attend university.
Just finished 1st year of Uni here in Belgrade, and i failed my English exam 2 times. I have been learning English since i was 3. And i honestly believe that the profesor used AI to make most of those questions.
watching this while having my uni exam in 2 days hits hard
Bulgarian here, when it comes to exams the initial exams here are free as well as the first retake exam. After that every retake exam costs something like 30 lev (approx 15 euro).
Can confirm.
3:16 "Malaysian ramen noodles"
Uhhh yeah, we do have our own instant noodle brand, we call them Mamee.
Not only we have the usual Mamee instant noodles but we also eat fried instant noodles in a snack pack. I would crack it, shake it and then eat it like that.
This last part really tingle my memories
Thanks !
Btw we do the same in india too
My philosophy teacher was like this and she's a reason why i lost my scholarship, that's crazy how 1 subject can ruin all your plans.
In Romania (west university of Timisoara) we were allowed to have individual answers. That time I also had the most fun. You also had 3 free tries at an exam and a university year cost like 500 eu.
What did you study? I'm thinking of studying psychology there as a foreign student.
I studied computer science in english for bachelor and distributed computing and AI for my masters. But this was almost 15 years ago. I am not sure how universities are nowadays. The dorms do suck just FYI :)
I studied law and had a professor of sociology who didn't like me because I started the freshmen year in 2000. One month after the fall of Milošević regime. And I had an opposition "Otpor" badge on my hoodie and he took it personally. Not just me, 4 other people got into the same mess. I failed that exam 14 times. Last 3 times I actually knew his entire textbook by heart. It wasn't even that big, around 200 pages. But, by his words, I didn't learn it with understanding. In comparison, I passed Roman law in the first try. 600 pages book plus 3 tomes of additional materials around 500 pages in total. Plus Latin as a prerequisite. Because of this I couldn't move to third year. I had sociology as a leftover from the 1st and I had to clear all of the exams from the first 2 years in order to move to 3rd. The problem was, I couldn't even move to another uni because he was the tenured sociology professor in all 4 law schools in Serbia at the time.
So in 2005. I dropped from law, moved to IT engineering and today I'm a software dev. Judging how crap is today in Serbia, it actually worked out awesome for me.
Wait. U have to pay for university if u are not among the best in Sebia ? In SLOVAKIA🇸🇰 and CZECHIA🇨🇿 universities are free.
Same in Poland
Same here in slovenia. Unless you are 26 or more, but if you are doing undergrad at 26 i'd start questioning your life choices tbf
Same is in Croatia as well, but they managed to make another money stealing scheme by failing you and having what in essence is 2 same exams. And ofc with merging eastern education (pass rate is below 20% and teachers from the Tito era) with western (“Bologna” which is just to add stress so you don’t think it’s free for nothing). So you have Serbia level of teachers and Western limits to university
Im brazil you gotta do this bs exam. If you pass you get free costless full tuition to university.
It sucks, now our job market is hypersaturated with doctors lawyers and other "learned" profissions, since anyone who isn't a troglodite can pass the ENEM and get into a uni.
@@josevictorribeirolisboa7576 Hey just off topic is it true that prices of electronics like gaming Pcs and laptops are much higher in Brazil than in the US ?
As a Greek, the only thing i relate to that's mentioned in the video, is the terrible professors. Universities here are completely public (for now) and you don't need to study all summer for an entrance exam because you already did during the school period. Moreover, the way of getting into university here is completely different to everywhere else in the world and it takes some time to explain which I'm too bored to do.
Ως ένας νέος Έλλην,θα ήθελα μια εξήγηση
the balkan region is like the depressed kid in Europe frfr
More like entire eastern part + all post-soviet states in asia (its pretty much same stuff everywhere).
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 real
ah not really if you finish Balkan school and goe to West you will soon start to see cracks there too, cracks through very nice, polished facade but still crakcs
In Croatia most popular phd-s are from Bosnia. Especially in gouverment sector. Around +20 000 phds,are from Bosnia..and estimate is that about 80% are fake. They mostly cost between 5000 to 10000 eur.
Capital and second biggest having the inferiority complex is so true everywhere
It's sad how many people had the same experience! I wasn't failed but received the lowest score at the exam because i drew "easy questions". I was called "a special case" by teacher who failed me with words "I see you have learned everything but study a little bit more" and many more. They make you repeat their own stupid sentences they probably just stole from some other professor. I hated every second of it and if possible I will send my kids abroad to study at the University.
managed to get into Uni in southeast Romania without any tuition fees or an entry exam, currently passing into 3rd year with all but one exam taken, and I will only need to pay to retake that exam because I didn't retake it in the year I failed it in, also no fees for taking exams the first time, only if you fail in the exam and wait til later years to retake it.
I complain a lot about the English department of Belgrade's Faculty of Philology but sometimes, I look at what other people are going through in their universities and realize things aren't so bad here after all...
Ah, yes. Pandemonium itself.
I had those jerks of two professors who failed me on purpose just to milk me of my money.
My 80 yo Bulgarian Calculus professor failed me because she only checked one side of my equations' papers.
I wrote the solutions on both sides of the papers.
Best thing (at least here in Slovakia) is that majority of people who finished university with 2nd level degree are now earning far less than their friends who are builder, plumber, electricians and barely passed high school...
That's more because Slovaks are greedy and ask for too much for their services.
Slováci sú nenažraní.
I studied at a public Greek university more than 10 years ago. Vandalism was quite common, as the buildings were not strictly guarded, and events and parties often took place inside the university buildings. Many things were broken, toilets for example. At one point, there was a strike (I think it was the cleaning personnel? Or maybe a protest by students? Not sure). The end result was that no one cleaned the buildings for days, but people kept littering. At some point, I had to take exams in a room full of discarded wrappers, used napkins, and empty bottles. I had to move them and make space to sit and write. And yes, there were occurrences of mice or insects in the basement, and also drug addicts right outside the building, but that was just another usual day. We somehow survived 😅
"Thinks it's better than the Capital, but it really isn't" *immediately shows Debrecen*
I have no idea why. Except that some weeks ago a clown from Debrecen suggested my daughter that she should move there from her home in Budapest "because the air is better in the countryside". What a valid reason to leave family, friends and a budding career! (irony)
I am from Brazil, and I went to Czech Republic during a semester at college BEST EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE it's an amazing place, I never met a such a nice people the Czechs are so friendly and fun I FUCKING LOVE CZECH REPUBLIC 🇨🇿❤❤❤
That sounds a lot like over here in the US state of Georgia with exam enterence, 'Scholraships' and maintaining 'free' education with gpa
oh boy this is sure making me exited for my exchange semester in cluj next year
Finished Politehnica in Bucharest... Goooddd!!! You were sooooo spot on with everything!!! I had two teachers each semester they will fail around 300 students each... Also, I had a teacher who if you didn't write enough on his exam he would consider you're too stupid to pass but if you wrote too much he would consider you cheated because it's impossible for a student to know so much... Passing him was really an exercise of self control 🤣🤣🤣. To know how much to write, not too much, not too little, just the right amount...