At 53:40 to 57:00 mission control gets very snippy at each other. I love the response is " Ask him, He's wrong! " and " You want to ask him? ask him yourself! " It's great to see that these guys are still human, love it!
Found the “old Apollo 8 joke” at 00:11:30. Been reading Mike Collins’ *Carrying the Fire* and he explains. During an Apollo 8 Press Conference, Shaffer explains to the press the concept of the gravitational “sphere of influence.” It quickly becomes obvious that he talking way above their heads. It seems it really was like having to “explain it to them like they were five” years old. The press asking questions like, “So will the spacecraft shutter when they cross that barrier?” and “What will the astronauts feel when that happens?” The press people just were not getting it. You can imagine the NASA folks trying to keep a straight face while thoroughly enjoying Shaffer’s exasperating predicament. So it came to be that so much as seeing Shaffer passing in the hallway frequently had astronauts (and others) teasingly asking him to explain the sphere of influence thing to them. It was all good natured fun- albeit at the expense of the press corps.
This series had been so addictive! Good job I'm retired as I would have been shattered. Just love Mike Collins sense of humour. Really appreciate all you have do to put this together. Thank you xx
2:32:30 I have a clear, distinct memory of watching, in our living room on our RCA Victor B&W TV, Buzz spinning the can, watching with my family (Mom and Dad, two sisters and dog Steffi and cat Sox. I was nine). ❤️
I remember when Buzz Aldrin made a ham sandwich in our den, I was nine- and here it is in this video. I had always loved the astronauts’ explanations of science, of their environment, and otherwise sharing their experiences in videos. My brother and I grew up that way. Our father, working for IBM, had some marketing responsibility for the first big NASA computers in Houston- a System 360, if I recall correctly, was the first, beginning during project Gemini. He attended every meeting he could, long after his promotion took him out of the field work. Around 1966, at one such meeting with various NASA and contractor folks discussing the data processing work (most knew one another) sitting at a conference table, one asked my Dad for his input. He had been letting the other IBM representatives respond, which was uncharacteristic of him. So he explained that he was in town for other business, but couldn’t resist sitting in, although unofficially, once he learned of the meeting. A bright NASA Public Affairs official in attendance picked up on that, and slipped out of the room. That is, that an IBM exec was showing up *for fun.* After the meeting ended, the PA guy ducked back in, asking if my Dad had a minute. In the hallway was a cart, and on that cart were several notebooks filled with technical documents, and a stack of film reels in metal canisters. Soon after, our phone rang at home in Dallas. Mom later said the excitement in his voice was like a kid with a new toy. He was at the airport in Houston, and wanted my big brother and me to set up the film projector in the den. A couple of hours later began what would become a regular part of my childhood: Dinner at the game table in the den, going over technical documents together, and watching NASA films. We got to keep all of the documents (I still have them) and the NASA gentleman handed over another armload of film canisters each time he brought the current films back. This close, but unofficial, friendship with NASA continued for years. With my Dad, I got to meet Werner von Braun; VIP tour the Marshall Space Flight Center, in Huntsville; visit the cape, see Apollos 12 and 13 being stacked in the VAB; view the launch of Pioneer E from the grandstands (it was blown up shortly after disappearing into the clouds) ; and tour Mission control (multiple times). In 1977, I was sitting in my high school class after finishing a test, waiting for the period to end when the teacher received a note, and called me up, to say I was to go to the office. My Dad was waiting, had signed me out of school for the day, and off we went on his secret surprise adventure. A few hours later we pulled into Ellington Field beside NASA. We were among thousands, but Dad’s VIP status had us sitting and mingling with future shuttle astronauts - several kindly introducing themselves- all there greeting the arrival of the Space Shuttle Enterprise, as it came in, piggy-back, on the modified 747 carrier. But just a few months after Apollo 11, the news media informed the us all that such interest no longer existed, and stopped feeding the hunger. They were wrong, and the sad result is RUclips is now filled with videos feeding the desire for ignorance rather than knowledge: moon-hoaxers, conspiracy-theorists, the “black knight,” alien Lunar bases, and other such garbage. But then, there is gold to be found here, too. Rare, but precious. Thank you, lunarmodule5, for providing the good stuff.
I chuckled a few times during the broadcast when Charlie Duke misidentified the Moon for the Earth and then when they showed Earth, he refused to comment. An easy day for everyone on the flight and in MC. Another great job of putting this all together!
He finally learned the difference on Apollo 16! I want to go back through 16’s transcripts to see if he made any reference to his identification goof while on the Moon. Charlie Duke had the easiest manner of all the CAPCOMs.
CapCom: ... Apollo 11 still dominates the news around the world.... And rightly so! I really like the impressive computer graphics - even if it's only CSM in barbecue mode. Again, great work. - RIP Chris Kraft.
Listening again - at 1:40 McCandless asks Buzz about his laser sighting on AOS after lunar ascent. Armstrong also saw it. I ran a simulation to show what the orientation of the Earth was when that was mentioned. The McDonald Observatory was very close to the limb, so that was not the source of the light. South America was very prominently placed in about the area Buzz mentions. It was about a "half Earth" and the only place where light could be seen emerging from land consistent with Buzz's report was western S. America, in the area around Colombia and Peru. Almost certainly this light was the Sun reflecting from a lake seen from very far away.. Relection from the ocean is always diffuse appearing because the ocean is always covered by waves - but you can watch video from ISS and reflection rom lakes is easily seen as a sudden brightening and then dimming. The lake in this case was almost certainly Lake Titicaca in s. Peru/w. Bolivia.
navghtivs was it Mike that played those? I know they mentioned it was on the downlink. Well now that I heard PAO saying it was something about two stations in the network, I'm pretty confused.
Anyone catch the comment from Mission Control that the President will be joined on the Hornet by Admiral John S, McCain, father of the late Senator. Who was also on the Missouri with MacArthur on VJ Day
Hi My Scotty87 - Glad you are nearly through 11 - 8 and 13 are complete - 10 is partially complete - 12 is being finished - other ones available - MR3 MR4 MA6 Gemini 3 Gemini 8 and STS-1 - hope that helps - regards LM5
DAY 7 - Done. I dud perfect burn to catch-up Columbia. It was actually a pretty fun day with the more relaxed feeling among the crew and MOCR. It is going to be a beautiful and sunny day here in Helsinki.
Does anyone have the background to the “old Apollo 8 joke” involving Bill Shaffer’s comments on the sphere of influence? That begins at about 00:11:30 on this video (Mission Time 06 04 07 14 for those of you following along with transcripts).
1:55:17 that's some crazy siren and police whistle noises coming from Apollo 11. Followed by a funny farm comment at 1:57:40 and Curly sounds from Three Stooges. At 1:58:26 the Apollo Control guy speculates on the origins of the sounds.
I’m not sure that it would achieve much down there. It’s a combination of system and tape noise that is much broader. It might be tidied up quite a bit with a near empty track from the same tape on the same system, from different loop....but would be almost impossible to access, assuming one exists.
I am addicted to this. I honestly can’t get enough.
At 53:40 to 57:00 mission control gets very snippy at each other. I love the response is " Ask him, He's wrong! " and " You want to ask him? ask him yourself! " It's great to see that these guys are still human, love it!
I got through the first eight hours or so of Appllo 13 emergency, and I was impressed that no one swore even once. These guys had nerves of steel.
Found the “old Apollo 8 joke” at 00:11:30. Been reading Mike Collins’ *Carrying the Fire* and he explains. During an Apollo 8 Press Conference, Shaffer explains to the press the concept of the gravitational “sphere of influence.” It quickly becomes obvious that he talking way above their heads.
It seems it really was like having to “explain it to them like they were five” years old. The press asking questions like, “So will the spacecraft shutter when they cross that barrier?” and “What will the astronauts feel when that happens?” The press people just were not getting it.
You can imagine the NASA folks trying to keep a straight face while thoroughly enjoying Shaffer’s exasperating predicament.
So it came to be that so much as seeing Shaffer passing in the hallway frequently had astronauts (and others) teasingly asking him to explain the sphere of influence thing to them.
It was all good natured fun- albeit at the expense of the press corps.
This series had been so addictive! Good job I'm retired as I would have been shattered. Just love Mike Collins sense of humour. Really appreciate all you have do to put this together. Thank you xx
Glad you are enjoying the series nan thanks for the comments regards LM5
2:32:30 I have a clear, distinct memory of watching, in our living room on our RCA Victor B&W TV, Buzz spinning the can, watching with my family (Mom and Dad, two sisters and dog Steffi and cat Sox. I was nine). ❤️
I remember when Buzz Aldrin made a ham sandwich in our den, I was nine- and here it is in this video. I had always loved the astronauts’ explanations of science, of their environment, and otherwise sharing their experiences in videos. My brother and I grew up that way.
Our father, working for IBM, had some marketing responsibility for the first big NASA computers in Houston- a System 360, if I recall correctly, was the first, beginning during project Gemini. He attended every meeting he could, long after his promotion took him out of the field work.
Around 1966, at one such meeting with various NASA and contractor folks discussing the data processing work (most knew one another) sitting at a conference table, one asked my Dad for his input. He had been letting the other IBM representatives respond, which was uncharacteristic of him. So he explained that he was in town for other business, but couldn’t resist sitting in, although unofficially, once he learned of the meeting.
A bright NASA Public Affairs official in attendance picked up on that, and slipped out of the room. That is, that an IBM exec was showing up *for fun.*
After the meeting ended, the PA guy ducked back in, asking if my Dad had a minute. In the hallway was a cart, and on that cart were several notebooks filled with technical documents, and a stack of film reels in metal canisters.
Soon after, our phone rang at home in Dallas. Mom later said the excitement in his voice was like a kid with a new toy. He was at the airport in Houston, and wanted my big brother and me to set up the film projector in the den. A couple of hours later began what would become a regular part of my childhood: Dinner at the game table in the den, going over technical documents together, and watching NASA films.
We got to keep all of the documents (I still have them) and the NASA gentleman handed over another armload of film canisters each time he brought the current films back.
This close, but unofficial, friendship with NASA continued for years. With my Dad, I got to meet Werner von Braun; VIP tour the Marshall Space Flight Center, in Huntsville; visit the cape, see Apollos 12 and 13 being stacked in the VAB; view the launch of Pioneer E from the grandstands (it was blown up shortly after disappearing into the clouds) ; and tour Mission control (multiple times).
In 1977, I was sitting in my high school class after finishing a test, waiting for the period to end when the teacher received a note, and called me up, to say I was to go to the office. My Dad was waiting, had signed me out of school for the day, and off we went on his secret surprise adventure.
A few hours later we pulled into Ellington Field beside NASA. We were among thousands, but Dad’s VIP status had us sitting and mingling with future shuttle astronauts - several kindly introducing themselves- all there greeting the arrival of the Space Shuttle Enterprise, as it came in, piggy-back, on the modified 747 carrier.
But just a few months after Apollo 11, the news media informed the us all that such interest no longer existed, and stopped feeding the hunger. They were wrong, and the sad result is RUclips is now filled with videos feeding the desire for ignorance rather than knowledge: moon-hoaxers, conspiracy-theorists, the “black knight,” alien Lunar bases, and other such garbage.
But then, there is gold to be found here, too. Rare, but precious.
Thank you, lunarmodule5, for providing the good stuff.
Me too! I was 8 😊
Still loving it, this series has a ton of work into it and it shows. Thanks again Simon!
Thanks Britt...cannot believe the series is coming to an end... regards LM5
Not to put you on the spot but if your really missing the action there's always Apollo 12! ;)
Amazed at how fast this is going.
Liftoff seems like yesterday. The voices of the crew and controllers seem like old friends.
yeah its zooming along - only 2 days of flgiht to go
I chuckled a few times during the broadcast when Charlie Duke misidentified the Moon for the Earth and then when they showed Earth, he refused to comment. An easy day for everyone on the flight and in MC. Another great job of putting this all together!
Thanks Theme - that was one of my favourite parts too
He finally learned the difference on Apollo 16!
I want to go back through 16’s transcripts to see if he made any reference to his identification goof while on the Moon.
Charlie Duke had the easiest manner of all the CAPCOMs.
CapCom: ... Apollo 11 still dominates the news around the world....
And rightly so! I really like the impressive computer graphics - even if it's only CSM in barbecue mode. Again, great work. - RIP Chris Kraft.
The CSM in BBQ mode is a thing of great beauty - to paraphrase Charlie Duke! Thanks for the comment Oliver - regards LM5
Loving these. Great way to learn, too.
Once again...thanks for your work. Very impressive.
Thank you GSP... glad you are liking and learning stuff too
Thanks for day seven, and thanks again overall!
More than welcome Steve
Chalk up yet another STELLAR PERFORMANCE!!! Thank U lots for Day 7, LM5!!!! YOU ROCK BIG TIME!!!!!! :) :) :)
Glad you liked another one!
Listening again - at 1:40 McCandless asks Buzz about his laser sighting on AOS after lunar ascent. Armstrong also saw it. I ran a simulation to show what the orientation of the Earth was when that was mentioned. The McDonald Observatory was very close to the limb, so that was not the source of the light. South America was very prominently placed in about the area Buzz mentions. It was about a "half Earth" and the only place where light could be seen emerging from land consistent with Buzz's report was western S. America, in the area around Colombia and Peru. Almost certainly this light was the Sun reflecting from a lake seen from very far away.. Relection from the ocean is always diffuse appearing because the ocean is always covered by waves - but you can watch video from ISS and reflection rom lakes is easily seen as a sudden brightening and then dimming. The lake in this case was almost certainly Lake Titicaca in s. Peru/w. Bolivia.
Congratulations from #Italy. Historical job.
Thanks Nicola
Perfect, once again
Thanks!!
Awesome please come back to life Simon
I didnt realise I had departed!! :O
The prank recordings played on the downlink at 1:52:15 and 1:55:15, Mike Collins mentioned in his book Carrying the Fire.
navghtivs was it Mike that played those? I know they mentioned it was on the downlink.
Well now that I heard PAO saying it was something about two stations in the network, I'm pretty confused.
Amazing work 💪🏼
Thanks Yassine
Anyone catch the comment from Mission Control that the President will be joined on the Hornet by Admiral John S, McCain, father of the late Senator. Who was also on the Missouri with MacArthur on VJ Day
55:30 "He's Wrong" a little tension in Mission Control
I can’t tear myself away from these. Almost done Apollo 11 in time for the 50th anniversary of Apollo 12. Do you have all Apollo 11 through 17?
Hi My Scotty87 - Glad you are nearly through 11 - 8 and 13 are complete - 10 is partially complete - 12 is being finished - other ones available - MR3 MR4 MA6 Gemini 3 Gemini 8 and STS-1 - hope that helps - regards LM5
Good job well done
Thank you! Cheers!
DAY 7 - Done. I dud perfect burn to catch-up Columbia. It was actually a pretty fun day with the more relaxed feeling among the crew and MOCR. It is going to be a beautiful and sunny day here in Helsinki.
Enjoy the day....day 8 is 3 imminent for release
I am still on the moon lol Landing crashed me! Love walking on this moon!
A little bump passing the sphere. Lol.
Does anyone have the background to the “old Apollo 8 joke” involving Bill Shaffer’s comments on the sphere of influence?
That begins at about 00:11:30 on this video (Mission Time 06 04 07 14 for those of you following along with transcripts).
Hay lm5 still on the moon. Neil & Buzz forgot to leave fish for the Eagle. :)
Try and catch up! Lol
Oh you bet I will. I cannot go through re-entry alone. NADA.. lol
1:55:17 that's some crazy siren and police whistle noises coming from Apollo 11. Followed by a funny farm comment at 1:57:40 and Curly sounds from Three Stooges. At 1:58:26 the Apollo Control guy speculates on the origins of the sounds.
I am assuming that the mid course corrections were always posigrade in direction, unlike the retrograde burn to achieve orbit around the moon.
Oops, the mid course correction #5 WAS retrograde lol
Finished disc 7 working on disc 8. Awaiting Day 8.
Its imminent
Could you please run a 60Hz filter on the Flight Director's loop? This is the only video where it blocks hearing the loop clearly so far.
I’m not sure that it would achieve much down there. It’s a combination of system and tape noise that is much broader. It might be tidied up quite a bit with a near empty track from the same tape on the same system, from different loop....but would be almost impossible to access, assuming one exists.
1:52:16 was this Apollo 11 pranking us? Their version of a corned beef sandwich?
Glaube Mut Liebe .
👍👍👍 👍👍 😊
Episode 6 complete. 7 is in work.
Enjoying the ride Delirium?
Absolutely LM5. It’s an enthralling journey. Thanks again for all the hard work.
Welcome!
Almost home
Almost! Cant quite believe the series is nearly over
Hello
DAY 7 - On hold till DAY 6 is in the bag. Must take a quick TEI burn for DAY 6 to catch up. HO HO..
You make it out of TEI yet? Miss that burn and things go bad..
Just made it!
LOL
I want to travel so space just so I can slurp blobs of water.
Call Poo. It's in the procedures. That's not true..
Poo is actually program P00, it releases the onboard computer locally to receive data from Mission Control.
How come they never mention naughty Teddy Kennedy when they are reading the daily news?
It was not yet a news item.
I'm not sure, but were there people complaining about the POTUS being there to witness their landing back on Earth?
There were complaints about Nixon self-importantly calling the Moon.