Does ST1,2&3 have the same BRAKE HORSE POWER and everything same how they all drive? So is the only difference in the interior and exterior but engine power BHP is the same ?
Although there are differences because of the trim level, the performance still remains the same on both.......and that's what is key. If you just want the performance and want to save cash, then the ST1 is the way to go. Both awesome cars in anyone's language. Thanks Gjeebs, nice vid man!!
U can get the carbon fiber extras for the st1 online. The trim and shift knob. 😂😂😂I don't care for leather seats at all. I like the seats in my st1. All packages have the same engine. You are paying extra for the seats and stereo system.
I recently purchased a brand new 2018 ST1 and TBH with y'all, I couldn't be happier with my purchase. The ST is an absolute blast to drive and an awesome car. Only mods I've done so far is an upgraded AEM Dry-Flow Air Filter, CFM Carbon Fiber Billet Oil Breather Cap and Weather-Tech In-Channel Window Deflectors.
For anybody wondering about the st2, here’s a list of differences between all 3 Seats: ST1: Unique black cloth with gray (Anthracite) accents ST2: Partial leather with gray (Smoke Storm) accents ST3: Full leather-trimmed black, heated front seats Headlights: ST1: Halogen Headlights with LED Daytime Running Lights ST2: HID Headlights with LED Daytime Running Lights and Cornering Lamps ST3: HID Headlights with LED Daytime Running Lights and Cornering Lamps Infotainment: ST1: SYNC® Base System ST2: SYNC® 3 with Navigation ST3: SYNC® 3 with Navigation Audio System: ST1: 6-Speaker with AM/FM, CD, Bluetooth ST2: Sony® 10-Speaker (including subwoofer) with HD Radio ST3: Sony® 10-Speaker (including subwoofer) with HD Radio Steering Wheel: ST1: Leather-Wrapped with Audio Controls, Flat Bottom, ST Badging ST2: Leather-Wrapped with Audio Controls, Flat Bottom, ST Badging ST3: Heated, Leather-Wrapped with Audio Controls, Flat Bottom, ST Badging Interior Accents: ST1: N/A ST2: N/A ST3: Carbon Fiber Interior Accent Package (Boost gauge trim bezel, door grab handle inserts, e-brake handle, shift knob) Interior Lighting: ST1: N/A ST2: N/A ST3: Ambient Lighting Roof: ST1: N/A ST2: Power Moonroof ST3: Power Moonroof Source: www.cjponyparts.com/resources/focus-st-guide
Yes it's not exactly beautiful is it ? I think tangerine Scream or orange fury really are the colours which suit the Focus ST. These days I hear of so many strange people that are effectively trying to pressure other people into adopting extreme conservatism throughout all aspects of life. So taking the hot hatch subject into account, it's as if these people want other people to choose grey as a hot hatch colour just because someone happens to be an adult and this group of people try to effectively label others with this "adult tag". It's as if we're theoretically expected to comply up to this mould and should be conservative and understated at all times. It's a great deal of effort living up to this type of pressure and so unnecessary and degrading to some degree as well and could be seen as interfering. Going back to hot hatches, if you disagree with some others and you want to go for a marvellous orange paint then go for it! However, I think that grey basically hides a fun and happy hot hatch and what is the point in this? Ok, if you have to go for grey, that's fine and that's your choice. We respect your opinion. On the other hand, adults should be respected if they happen to prefer hot hatches in brighter colours and shouldn't feel guilty because it is a freedom of choice. As adults we shouldn't feel as if we have to ask others' approval and permission at the risk of them feeling offended. So what if they get offended? It's none of their business and they obviously have issues if they are persistent with these views. Other people shouldn't speak for our decisions.
Interesting that someone with Ford engineering background went with the Focus ST, and the ST1 as well. Gives me confidence in the quality of the 2017 ST2 I got last month. Always enjoy the videos, they're super informative!
I knew all these things about the 402a package. This is why I waited 3 months until I found a white 2018 st with the st3 402a package and I couldnt be happier. Didnt even notice the adaptive headlights until I drove the car at night and it blew my mind and I fell in love. These cars are excellent and the discontinue hurts. All of us ST owners wish we could have gotten the rs but the st3 402a package really makes you feel like your sitting in one.. until you launch lol.. then it hits you again.. this is fwd.👌😅 but still my baby 😘😘
Wanted an ST3 originally, but was able to pay 20k out the door for a new ST1 last year. Ultimately no regrets. Fun ass car no matter what the interior is. Nice job on the video!
ST2's & ST3's also have dual zone climate control. ST1's are basic single zone. ST3's get heated seats, side mirrors and steering wheel. I didn't need all that crap and bought a new '17 ST1 for a little over 20K OTD last year. The ST1 front seats are not Recaro seats either.. they are more similar to Focus SE seats in shape and bolstering and have their own unique cloth. More comfortable than the Recaro seats by a long shot IMHO. The ST1's are an incredible value and can often be bought for around 20K new when Ford is offering incentives. Try finding a car from any other brand that offers the level of performance the Focus ST does for that price. They simply do not exist.
Absolutely. Got my 17 ST1 July last year for little over 20,400. I raced it countless times this car is incredible. I never lose to wrx, gti, or si. Smoked a tuned wrx 3 times in a row doing digs and roll starts as soon as I got the car. At the end he said Holy shit that little thing is fast lol. Also hit 142 racing Hemi challenger on the Parkway in jersey. He stayed in my Sideview v8 screaming as he had no aero at all while the focus shaped like a bullet (race started side by side at about 80mph). Once a Vette really put me in my place though lmao but seriously stock for this money is absolutely incredible. Crushed a Lexus IS300 coming home from work yesterday. Beat beamer's n audi's on the regular. Ford hit a home run with the ST. I surprise people all the time.
You need to get that ST on a curvy country road Jason, or better yet a track day. Racing on the highway is not safe for you or other motorists sharing the road with you. Besides... that is where the Focus ST really shines. They handle better than any car in their class around curves. Yeah WOT pulls are fun but again not safe and a good way to get ticketed or lose your driver's license.
Perry Beyer you are right. I just was never able to resist the urge to race. I took my 14 Elantra to Hershey Park and there were some amazing roads on the way I had a blast with in my Elantra. Have been wanting to go back since I got my ST. Not just the pulls but yes the handling is amazing. I spent 2 grand on my 02 SER Spec V suspension and it doesn't feel as good as this Focus. One of these days I'll take it on some nice winding roads!
Great Vid! I have to drive my F-250 for work during the week, Tomorrow is Saturday. I get to take my 2018 ST with 400 miles on the clock out for a blast. Leaves are changing color going for a day long blast up the Mohawk Trail into the mountains of Vermont......
Just bought a 2017 Estate ST2 (I think) in europe. Only downside is that for whatever reason I don't have cruise control, which my old 2008 Golf had. :(
The ST1 head unit and system has less functionality depending on the year, and I'm not 100% sure but I don't think it's SYNC3. Few, if none 2018 ST1s had aux input (my 17 ST1 does) and ST1s don't come with SiriusXM capability. Mine didn't but I somehow still got a free 6 month trial lol. The only thing about the ST2/ST3 I'm missing is the seats. Trying to track them down piece by piece and swap them over, but as far as the head unit and other features, I didn't need/want them especially for the price hike.
exterior was actually the main reason i got the st3 sitting next to the st1. the rims, tires, and colored break calipers made it a totally different car for me. or was that just a tire package i missed.
Just purchased an ST2 last week. Previous car was a Fiesta ST. Two very small differences are the cargo lights and the cap over the 12V outlet next to the shifter. I believe the last year Ford completely removed the right side cargo light and just left it blank. In addition if you look at the power outlet cap on yours vs the new one you will notice yours has a silver ring where as the 18s are just plain black. I also did some searching and it turns out Ford also removed the small tray thats under the center console lid. I love this car but it just irritates me that they literally just built these until there were no more parts.
Yea it’s amazing what they change year to year without telling you. I know when I changed my bushings there was a difference between my cable and the 2015 test cable I used.
Yes you can. I have an SE model which is the same ones as the st1. I added an amp & 12” sub and it hits hard. Make sure you buy a LC2i if you want to keep your factory stereo.
Most likely some small stuff will still be produced but since the new STs are fairly different i believe it might be harder to find any new companies that want to play with the 12-18 platform. Howeever a shit ton of people are buying STs right now (at least on the east coast) so it could mean a resurgance, well just have to wait and see
Outside of the obvious material difference, are the bolstered seats in the st3 worth the upgrade? Because to me that seems like the main reason to upgrade outside of the center console layout/features.
Benjowlmin Personally id go for the ST2 package. (Coming from an ST2 owner lol) Not sure of the exact number but it saves a few pounds since it doesn’t have the electric elements for the heated seats/wheel/mirrors. You get the touch screen and leather recaros with cloth inserts. Premium sound. Etc. Seats are easy to find but if you’re looking to upgrade from Sync to a touch screen you’re looking at a minimum $350-$500 before install depending on new or used.
ST1 also has no sun roof. No 10 speaker Sony system. No Heated/cooling seats or steering wheel. And the seats may be Ricarro but they feel just like the seats in a regular Focus SE, no leather and not as low or bolstered.
Fords audio systems arent too bad. Maybe on the focus it isnt. But we have a 2012 ford fiesta SE and the sound system is amazing. Very good bass for no subs
Skylight FX my brother's 07 mustang's shaker 500 was incredible. I don't think my Focus sound system is bad n I have the ST1. Bass is adequate but I always want more. Had subs in all my previous cars it's what I'm used to.
is the carbon a separate package from the st3? i have a 2014 st3 with no carbon, im assuming if its not its just a new thing they did to the newer models.
The sound system(Sony) is not good. There is no separation with the highs. Everything sounds flat. You turn the volume up and the highs flatten out. The bass is just ok but nothing to write home about. I changed everything from the Sony amp downward. Added a line out converter connected to two amps( one for mids and highs and one for bass). Upgraded all speakers and threw out the stock subwoofer. Component speakers are from RE audio(200 watts rms per channelx4). Subwoofers are two solobaric kickers(10's) putting out 1200 watts rms. One 4 channel Rockville amp( give these amps a try) and a pioneer class D amp (this one is certified at over 1300 watts). 300 amp alternator to power everything (stock is 150) and zero gauge wiring from alternator to battery,battery to ground and chassis to ground and 1 2 farad capacitor. It is the best system I have installed( did everything myself). At low volume it sounds amazing with great clarity and amazing separation. I can hear every instrument in detail. I have heard stock systems in other makes that sound amazing with clarity and great separation( BMW,Lexus,Acura to name a few) but the Focus is not one of them I'm sorry to say. They could have done so much more and with minimal extra cost. Ford chose to be cheap in this area
How much maximum can the ST do with stock turbo and stock engine with full bolts on & tune & stuff.. & would it be enough to beat a golf R or something like a g37?
I don’t know much about the g37. Golf R it would come close to beating a manual transmission golf R but the DSG version would wax it. Instead of building it to beat a golf R I would just buy a golf R.
@@Gjeebs Somehow I think that the stock Focus ST still manages to feel a faster and more communicative car than a Golf R. It's as if the Golf R is an excellent smooth and a serious conservative car but not a cheeky and fun communicative hot hatch. Definitely one of the most serious natured performance cars in the universe. It's almost like a robot.🤖 Maybe this car is advanced and this could be what is in store of what future "hot hatches" could be like. Hopefully not. Interestingly, when driving the Vauxhall Insignia SRi in comparison, it feels more dynamic and has a better feel good factor despite having half the power!
They're not even close to the same. The ST2 and 3 seats are more aggressively bolstered and I found them uncomfortable. As to the brand of the seats, the simple fact is that Recaro the company is one of, if not the biggest seat makers in the world. They make all kinds of OEM seats for all kinds of cars and have factories around the world. They make full-on sports car bucket seats and they make lame ass back bench seats too. Just because a seat lacks a Recaro label does not mean it was not made by them. They are a highly valued subcontractor to many car makers.
My 15 st3 doesnt have that carbon fiber on the door handle, around the radio, shifter or on the ebrake. No carbon fiber. Are you sure someone didnt add that to yours?
my ST2 has no sunroof or LED lights & partial leather seats and I think the ST3 came with the sunroof, full leather seats & LED lights, for the 2013 year, ST1 had cloth seat no navigation or touchscreen, no sony stereo or dual climate controls, and no sunroof. 82k miles on it and the engine mounts have failed all 3 of them, got some CPE mounts on the way, not cheap though over $1,000 for all 3, ( the engine mounts ford use are complete garbage )
Johnny Reinsch not by much by if you want performance without the extras such as sunroof, touchscreen, recaro leather bucket seats, and the sony sound system, at least your squeezing in that little bit of performance difference. Lol Personally, love the ST1 and im looking into one soon hopefully.
Shemar Stevens their is hardly any weight difference between the two.....the st3 is the total package, Everytime I get in my st3 it makes me smile cuz them recaroz and I love having a sunroof!!!!
Every dealer I went to in AZ charges ~2900 for what they call "UV Protection" ugh Window tint, It was on Ford, Kia, Chevy, Jeep, Chrysler, so while it's desirable it's, it ultimately was installed in every single vehicle I looked at in the greater phoenix area at a huge markup and none of them budged on the price of it.
I have an ST2, thats the only model that comes to Middle East but you know what sucks? i have the base model headlight like in the video... but i have NO DRL........... JUST HALOGEN WHICH IS ANNOYING
ST3 also gets the rear center armrest and interior ambient lighting 👍
Yep! Thanks for the comment
My 15 ST3 also has heated seats and steering wheel
No rear centre armrest in UK on mk 3 ST though
Can you adjust color on interior ambient lighting?
Does ST1,2&3 have the same BRAKE HORSE POWER and everything same how they all drive?
So is the only difference in the interior and exterior but engine power BHP is the same ?
Although there are differences because of the trim level, the performance still remains the same on both.......and that's what is key. If you just want the performance and want to save cash, then the ST1 is the way to go. Both awesome cars in anyone's language.
Thanks Gjeebs, nice vid man!!
Gary Green especially since it’s slight lighter because it’s less equipped. It’s kind of like the gt350 and gt350r
rigo tejeda absolutely my man.
Its actually faster
ST1 owner here and proud lmao, i spend more time focusing on driving than i do all the fancy screens. wish i had those recarro's tho
U can get the carbon fiber extras for the st1 online. The trim and shift knob. 😂😂😂I don't care for leather seats at all. I like the seats in my st1. All packages have the same engine. You are paying extra for the seats and stereo system.
I recently purchased a brand new 2018 ST1 and TBH with y'all, I couldn't be happier with my purchase. The ST is an absolute blast to drive and an awesome car. Only mods I've done so far is an upgraded AEM Dry-Flow Air Filter, CFM Carbon Fiber Billet Oil Breather Cap and Weather-Tech In-Channel Window Deflectors.
Scott Galbreath well done man!! 🙌
Why rain guards, thats so ugly
For anybody wondering about the st2, here’s a list of differences between all 3
Seats:
ST1: Unique black cloth with gray (Anthracite) accents
ST2: Partial leather with gray (Smoke Storm) accents
ST3: Full leather-trimmed black, heated front seats
Headlights:
ST1: Halogen Headlights with LED Daytime Running Lights
ST2: HID Headlights with LED Daytime Running Lights and Cornering Lamps
ST3: HID Headlights with LED Daytime Running Lights and Cornering Lamps
Infotainment:
ST1: SYNC® Base System
ST2: SYNC® 3 with Navigation
ST3: SYNC® 3 with Navigation
Audio System:
ST1: 6-Speaker with AM/FM, CD, Bluetooth
ST2: Sony® 10-Speaker (including subwoofer) with HD Radio
ST3: Sony® 10-Speaker (including subwoofer) with HD Radio
Steering Wheel:
ST1: Leather-Wrapped with Audio Controls, Flat Bottom, ST Badging
ST2: Leather-Wrapped with Audio Controls, Flat Bottom, ST Badging
ST3: Heated, Leather-Wrapped with Audio Controls, Flat Bottom, ST Badging
Interior Accents:
ST1: N/A
ST2: N/A
ST3: Carbon Fiber Interior Accent Package (Boost gauge trim bezel, door grab handle inserts, e-brake handle, shift knob)
Interior Lighting:
ST1: N/A
ST2: N/A
ST3: Ambient Lighting
Roof:
ST1: N/A
ST2: Power Moonroof
ST3: Power Moonroof
Source: www.cjponyparts.com/resources/focus-st-guide
“It is in this beautiful...grey”
Yes it's not exactly beautiful is it ? I think tangerine Scream or orange fury really are the colours which suit the Focus ST.
These days I hear of so many strange people that are effectively trying to pressure other people into adopting extreme conservatism throughout all aspects of life. So taking the hot hatch subject into account, it's as if these people want other people to choose grey as a hot hatch colour just because someone happens to be an adult and this group of people try to effectively label others with this "adult tag". It's as if we're theoretically expected to comply up to this mould and should be conservative and understated at all times. It's a great deal of effort living up to this type of pressure and so unnecessary and degrading to some degree as well and could be seen as interfering.
Going back to hot hatches, if you disagree with some others and you want to go for a marvellous orange paint then go for it!
However, I think that grey basically hides a fun and happy hot hatch and what is the point in this? Ok, if you have to go for grey, that's fine and that's your choice. We respect your opinion.
On the other hand, adults should be respected if they happen to prefer hot hatches in brighter colours and shouldn't feel guilty because it is a freedom of choice. As adults we shouldn't feel as if we have to ask others' approval and permission at the risk of them feeling offended. So what if they get offended? It's none of their business and they obviously have issues if they are persistent with these views. Other people shouldn't speak for our decisions.
Excellent job with your channel. I just bought a ST2 and the other difference between ST3's is the door panel security panel. Keep up the good work.
YOU FINALLY DID IT MAN!!! THANK YOH SO DAMN MUCH GJEEBS. IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR LIKE 2 MONTHS
Interesting that someone with Ford engineering background went with the Focus ST, and the ST1 as well. Gives me confidence in the quality of the 2017 ST2 I got last month. Always enjoy the videos, they're super informative!
And here I am with an st2... I kinda feel left out haha
The Almighty Cornholio don’t there showing all the shit you got some off
Here I am with a fiesta 1 25 zetec ST Replica...ka-ching.
Me too bro🤧 me too
Thanks for posting this. No one seems to like doing videos on lowers models lol.. Im looking at a used 2017 ST1 so this is helpful
get him to do a ST3 projector lens swap so all us poor ST1 folk can learn!
Should have let the guy talk a bit about his thoughts of the car, opinions, plans, did he drive ur car etc etc
I knew all these things about the 402a package. This is why I waited 3 months until I found a white 2018 st with the st3 402a package and I couldnt be happier. Didnt even notice the adaptive headlights until I drove the car at night and it blew my mind and I fell in love. These cars are excellent and the discontinue hurts. All of us ST owners wish we could have gotten the rs but the st3 402a package really makes you feel like your sitting in one.. until you launch lol.. then it hits you again.. this is fwd.👌😅 but still my baby 😘😘
That weight reduction though!
🤣🤣 true...
The first body style ST3 didn't get any carbon fiber interior pieces. But I'll take the original front end with ST3 seats any day over that feature
Wanted an ST3 originally, but was able to pay 20k out the door for a new ST1 last year. Ultimately no regrets. Fun ass car no matter what the interior is.
Nice job on the video!
Yah I picked up a 2015 ST1 for 9k with 58k miles
@@ckidphotography1318 9k!!! Damn where I'm at, that's calling for 16-18k for an ST1 of the same miles (at a dealership i should add)! Great find!
This drive way/parking lot reminds me of GTA San Andreas Grove Street 😄
I just subscribed bro, planning on getting a focus st or maybe fiesta. Keep up the work !!
Thank you!
ST2's & ST3's also have dual zone climate control. ST1's are basic single zone. ST3's get heated seats, side mirrors and steering wheel. I didn't need all that crap and bought a new '17 ST1 for a little over 20K OTD last year. The ST1 front seats are not Recaro seats either.. they are more similar to Focus SE seats in shape and bolstering and have their own unique cloth. More comfortable than the Recaro seats by a long shot IMHO.
The ST1's are an incredible value and can often be bought for around 20K new when Ford is offering incentives. Try finding a car from any other brand that offers the level of performance the Focus ST does for that price. They simply do not exist.
Perry Beyer that's why I bought mine... any other brands your getting closer to 30k for similar value and performance
Absolutely. Got my 17 ST1 July last year for little over 20,400. I raced it countless times this car is incredible. I never lose to wrx, gti, or si. Smoked a tuned wrx 3 times in a row doing digs and roll starts as soon as I got the car. At the end he said Holy shit that little thing is fast lol. Also hit 142 racing Hemi challenger on the Parkway in jersey. He stayed in my Sideview v8 screaming as he had no aero at all while the focus shaped like a bullet (race started side by side at about 80mph). Once a Vette really put me in my place though lmao but seriously stock for this money is absolutely incredible. Crushed a Lexus IS300 coming home from work yesterday. Beat beamer's n audi's on the regular. Ford hit a home run with the ST. I surprise people all the time.
You need to get that ST on a curvy country road Jason, or better yet a track day. Racing on the highway is not safe for you or other motorists sharing the road with you. Besides... that is where the Focus ST really shines. They handle better than any car in their class around curves. Yeah WOT pulls are fun but again not safe and a good way to get ticketed or lose your driver's license.
Perry Beyer you are right. I just was never able to resist the urge to race. I took my 14 Elantra to Hershey Park and there were some amazing roads on the way I had a blast with in my Elantra. Have been wanting to go back since I got my ST. Not just the pulls but yes the handling is amazing. I spent 2 grand on my 02 SER Spec V suspension and it doesn't feel as good as this Focus. One of these days I'll take it on some nice winding roads!
I just did the st octane academy.. holy shit they handle so well. I even won the little autocross event :) 48.9 was my time
In the UK, we have heated windscreens and also rain sensors/cameras in the screen as well, baffles me why the US Focus doesn't have this
On top of getting the adaptive housing for cornering the bulbs are HIDs. Bright as shit but more expensive to replace.
Great Vid! I have to drive my F-250 for work during the week, Tomorrow is Saturday. I get to take my 2018 ST with 400 miles on the clock out for a blast. Leaves are changing color going for a day long blast up the Mohawk Trail into the mountains of Vermont......
That sounds awesome. Have fun!
Just got a 2015 ST with the St3 package. My god I love the car.
I stay in south Africa an I have a st3 stealth grey an its a 2017 model an it does not come with the carbon fiber trims
It was an option, I think the only optional thing on the st3
Thinking on upgrading after a year with my ST1 to a RS 2018 Race Red for the 4th of July sale.
Matthew Likens did you trade it in? I'm going tomorrow to trade my st1 for a st3 tomorrow.
Here in the uk the st-3 doesn’t get the carbon fibre
Was just about to say, Bought a 2017 model and no carbon fibre here.
Just bought a 2017 Estate ST2 (I think) in europe. Only downside is that for whatever reason I don't have cruise control, which my old 2008 Golf had. :(
On my st3 it was missing the right cargo light. So is his st1. The hole is there but why do they not fill it. I got ford to put it in no charge.
troutstag I never even noticed on my ST1
The sunroof too! Only comes in the st3 I believe
ST2 &ST3
Guys, the sunroof is a standalone option. Meaning you can have on all trim levels.
Really nice music in the end 👍
The ST1 head unit and system has less functionality depending on the year, and I'm not 100% sure but I don't think it's SYNC3. Few, if none 2018 ST1s had aux input (my 17 ST1 does) and ST1s don't come with SiriusXM capability. Mine didn't but I somehow still got a free 6 month trial lol.
The only thing about the ST2/ST3 I'm missing is the seats. Trying to track them down piece by piece and swap them over, but as far as the head unit and other features, I didn't need/want them especially for the price hike.
You can see the Aston Martin influence in the grille.
exterior was actually the main reason i got the st3 sitting next to the st1. the rims, tires, and colored break calipers made it a totally different car for me.
or was that just a tire package i missed.
Just purchased an ST2 last week. Previous car was a Fiesta ST. Two very small differences are the cargo lights and the cap over the 12V outlet next to the shifter. I believe the last year Ford completely removed the right side cargo light and just left it blank. In addition if you look at the power outlet cap on yours vs the new one you will notice yours has a silver ring where as the 18s are just plain black. I also did some searching and it turns out Ford also removed the small tray thats under the center console lid. I love this car but it just irritates me that they literally just built these until there were no more parts.
Yea it’s amazing what they change year to year without telling you. I know when I changed my bushings there was a difference between my cable and the 2015 test cable I used.
The ST1 looks basically like an SE model in the inside.
I wanted the Kona Blue but this isn’t an option in 2018. Instead I opted for the metallic Grey ST2. This looks amazing when cleaned up!! 😍
Blue is blue
I think the ST2 seats look the best out of the three recaros.
Saber008 I concur, half leather, save the cows, with a bit of colour to brighten the interior somewhat.
I agree but I tried both ST1 and st3 seats and ST1 were way more comfy , though it may be because I'm a big build and 6'3 lol
If i ever get an ST i'll definitely get the same ford performance exhaust you have
Good choice !
Hi, l got Ford Focus 2018 1.0 st line x. .what is the difference
I just bought a 2018 st1 and it has alot of the st2 st3 accessories.
I ordered my 2018 Ford Focus st a week ago still waiting for them to deliver it to the dealership
howd that go
How do you stop all the ding ding dings when you open your doors? Is there a "just cleaning you, leave me alone" button?
The headlights don't track back and forth, they have a built in cornering light that illuminates when you turn the wheel 👍🏻
They track as well. The xenon projector lense moves side to side along with the cornering light. Although this feature depends country to country
Just need my 2013 st2 in the mix just about to hit 30000miles on it iam in yuma az !
Carp & Gasoline Garage My 14 has almost 72k on it. You’ve been slackin! Lol
Zachary Van Kanegan i got it used with only 16000miles on it last year from my local dealership I'm slacking just a bit lol
Carp & Gasoline Garage Dang Dude, not a bad find for 4 years old!
Zachary Van Kanegan yea
Carp & Gasoline Garage that's awesome! How much was it? Get a great deal or is the ST holding value around your way?
Does the ST1's version of the Sync3 still have Apple CarPlay or is that exclusive to the touch screen?
Wonder what the weight difference is between the ST1 and ST3 ...
2017 Ford Focus 2.0 EcoBoost ST1 best between 2016 volgswagen gti 7 2.0 tsi dsg please
Can you upgrade your audio system if you buy the st1. Coz i like to play hard music and the audio system is a big deal for me.
I’m sure you could but I haven’t looked into it
Yes you can. I have an SE model which is the same ones as the st1. I added an amp & 12” sub and it hits hard. Make sure you buy a LC2i if you want to keep your factory stereo.
I was wondering if they are going to continue making parts for the St... I actually just bought mine
Most likely some small stuff will still be produced but since the new STs are fairly different i believe it might be harder to find any new companies that want to play with the 12-18 platform. Howeever a shit ton of people are buying STs right now (at least on the east coast) so it could mean a resurgance, well just have to wait and see
Outside of the obvious material difference, are the bolstered seats in the st3 worth the upgrade? Because to me that seems like the main reason to upgrade outside of the center console layout/features.
Should mention I'm a silm 5'11"
Benjowlmin Personally id go for the ST2 package. (Coming from an ST2 owner lol) Not sure of the exact number but it saves a few pounds since it doesn’t have the electric elements for the heated seats/wheel/mirrors. You get the touch screen and leather recaros with cloth inserts. Premium sound. Etc.
Seats are easy to find but if you’re looking to upgrade from Sync to a touch screen you’re looking at a minimum $350-$500 before install depending on new or used.
My ST3 doesn't have the carbon extras or the sub. Maybe that's a UK thing?
Maybe. Where are you from? I’ve seen comments from people in Cape Town that say they don’t have them either
United Kingdom. It has the big screen and leather seats, but everything else is like this ST1. I'm really happy with it, I'd love the sub though :(
vaiman7777 I agree, no carbon in Great Britain, gear lever is not as nice either, lucky yanks 🏴
Either in Switzerland. Got seat heating and all that but no carbon fiber... Would buy it but nearly 800$ is to much
ST1 also has no sun roof. No 10 speaker Sony system. No Heated/cooling seats or steering wheel. And the seats may be Ricarro but they feel just like the seats in a regular Focus SE, no leather and not as low or bolstered.
The sunroof is a standalone option, meaning you can have it on the trims...
Fords audio systems arent too bad. Maybe on the focus it isnt. But we have a 2012 ford fiesta SE and the sound system is amazing. Very good bass for no subs
Skylight FX my brother's 07 mustang's shaker 500 was incredible. I don't think my Focus sound system is bad n I have the ST1. Bass is adequate but I always want more. Had subs in all my previous cars it's what I'm used to.
is the carbon a separate package from the st3? i have a 2014 st3 with no carbon, im assuming if its not its just a new thing they did to the newer models.
It's a newer model upgrade
The sound system(Sony) is not good. There is no separation with the highs. Everything sounds flat. You turn the volume up and the highs flatten out. The bass is just ok but nothing to write home about. I changed everything from the Sony amp downward. Added a line out converter connected to two amps( one for mids and highs and one for bass). Upgraded all speakers and threw out the stock subwoofer. Component speakers are from RE audio(200 watts rms per channelx4). Subwoofers are two solobaric kickers(10's) putting out 1200 watts rms. One 4 channel Rockville amp( give these amps a try) and a pioneer class D amp (this one is certified at over 1300 watts). 300 amp alternator to power everything (stock is 150) and zero gauge wiring from alternator to battery,battery to ground and chassis to ground and 1 2 farad capacitor. It is the best system I have installed( did everything myself). At low volume it sounds amazing with great clarity and amazing separation. I can hear every instrument in detail. I have heard stock systems in other makes that sound amazing with clarity and great separation( BMW,Lexus,Acura to name a few) but the Focus is not one of them I'm sorry to say. They could have done so much more and with minimal extra cost. Ford chose to be cheap in this area
You should make a video of all you have!
the Ford Focus ST is the one of only cars I’d trade my truck for lol. They’re just great
Yea I loved it
Thanks for the vid! How feasible would it be to upgrade a ST1 into a ST3 after purchase?
It wouldn’t be worth the time or money. Too many details
How much maximum can the ST do with stock turbo and stock engine with full bolts on & tune & stuff.. & would it be enough to beat a golf R or something like a g37?
I don’t know much about the g37. Golf R it would come close to beating a manual transmission golf R but the DSG version would wax it. Instead of building it to beat a golf R I would just buy a golf R.
@@Gjeebs Somehow I think that the stock Focus ST still manages to feel a faster and more communicative car than a Golf R. It's as if the Golf R is an excellent smooth and a serious conservative car but not a cheeky and fun communicative hot hatch. Definitely one of the most serious natured performance cars in the universe. It's almost like a robot.🤖
Maybe this car is advanced and this could be what is in store of what future "hot hatches" could be like. Hopefully not.
Interestingly, when driving the Vauxhall Insignia SRi in comparison, it feels more dynamic and has a better feel good factor despite having half the power!
is is possible to swap the the st engine and put it into the 2018 st line mk 3.5 ?
So are the ST1 seats and ST3 seats the exact same? They both may be recaro but they look a little different shape and bolstering wise.
They're not even close to the same. The ST2 and 3 seats are more aggressively bolstered and I found them uncomfortable. As to the brand of the seats, the simple fact is that Recaro the company is one of, if not the biggest seat makers in the world. They make all kinds of OEM seats for all kinds of cars and have factories around the world. They make full-on sports car bucket seats and they make lame ass back bench seats too. Just because a seat lacks a Recaro label does not mean it was not made by them. They are a highly valued subcontractor to many car makers.
My 15 st3 doesnt have that carbon fiber on the door handle, around the radio, shifter or on the ebrake. No carbon fiber. Are you sure someone didnt add that to yours?
Might only be 16-18 every ST3 I have seen in those model years has it in the US.
My 2015 with the st3 package is the same they added carbon fiber and sync 3 in 2016 and above I was a bit disappointed when I found that out too late.
my ST2 has no sunroof or LED lights & partial leather seats and I think the ST3 came with the sunroof, full leather seats & LED lights, for the 2013 year, ST1 had cloth seat no navigation or touchscreen, no sony stereo or dual climate controls, and no sunroof. 82k miles on it and the engine mounts have failed all 3 of them, got some CPE mounts on the way, not cheap though over $1,000 for all 3, ( the engine mounts ford use are complete garbage )
This may be a dumb question. Is there a difference between the st2 with the st3 package and the st3? I've been seeing that around lately
joshua land the seats only I believe. St2 has the cloth/leather seats and the st3 is full leather
Do either have android auto?
Special guest, Khalid :)
Yeah ! Exelent test drive ..
Also missed out the st 3 has heated steering wheel and seats where as the st 1 doesn’t
with the ST3 and the nicer seats does that also include heated seats? are heated seats available in the focus ST?
Yes heated seats and steering wheel on the ST3
thats a big deal to us up north. thank you for the quick reply i enjoy your videos!
Thank for the support!
Great video 👍
One more question do all st1 st2 and st3 have sportmode or only st 2 and st3?
All have it
Well done mate,,, wow u really made him feel inferior,,,, keep an eye on local bridges mate,,,,😄👍
In market for a st. Either going to get a st3 13-14 st or a 15-17 st1 st
Did you ever decide?
But is the st3 carbon fiber trim real carbon fiber or just that plastic copy
I honestly don’t know but what matters to me in this case is that it looks good and it does.
I had heard somewhere the st1 is lighter... not that performance would be that different though
It is for sure but probably doesn’t affect performance much at all
Johnny Reinsch not by much by if you want performance without the extras such as sunroof, touchscreen, recaro leather bucket seats, and the sony sound system, at least your squeezing in that little bit of performance difference. Lol Personally, love the ST1 and im looking into one soon hopefully.
Shemar Stevens their is hardly any weight difference between the two.....the st3 is the total package, Everytime I get in my st3 it makes me smile cuz them recaroz and I love having a sunroof!!!!
Yeah more of a joke more than anything
Have you got the diesel ST version?
Not in the US
which one is faster stock for stock and by how much
Performance wise they are identical
Gjeebs how much more does an st3 weigh compared to an st1
Ha! His right trunk light is missing too. Wonder why some have them installed and some dont
got my dealer to put one in no charge. I said if it has a hole you should fill it.
troutstag must have a good dealer. Mine, they looked at another st and saw that one didn't have it either and said that's how they're supposed to be.
What is the top spec st1 st2 st3 I don't have a clue about fords
ST3 is fully loaded
Thanks lad I really didn't have a clue
No problem. You gotta learn somewhere
Tbh I like the st1 more , besides the headunit
Are all the st1 , 2 , and 3 eco boost ?
Yea they all have the same engine no matter what trim you buy
It's not the last year for ST. Just Ford won't sell it in USA anymore.
I want that subwoofer!
St1 which model st3 which model? Asia has no heat and cool seat
What model year is Gjeebs st?
2016
Mine has everything except the carbon fiber package. Is that the ST2? Just got the car so you'll have to excuse my ignorance.
No problem. ST3 has the carbon
Is the meet going to happen orrrrr??
are you in FL man?
I am not. Phoenix
My guy 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Main difference, about 4,500 Dollars. Or 20 percent of the total cost of the vehicle.
Factory tint? There's no factory window tint. Dealer installed?
That’s what I meant
The owner did say "from the dealer" in the background. An understandable and desirable dealer option in Arizona.
Every dealer I went to in AZ charges ~2900 for what they call "UV Protection" ugh Window tint, It was on Ford, Kia, Chevy, Jeep, Chrysler, so while it's desirable it's, it ultimately was installed in every single vehicle I looked at in the greater phoenix area at a huge markup and none of them budged on the price of it.
1:32 why would you lock your car if you're the only 2 persons in the area? 😄
Hahaha probably just habit
VISHALLLLLL
Thanks
Did that dude have a portable charger charging itself?
ST3 has sunroof too
Ha. You can do a lot of mods for the differance in price LOL
ST2 has no carbon and only partial leather Recaro seats. Everything else is the same as the ST3
Dealer installed tint, not factory tint.
I have a st3 and i don't got carbon fiber in mine so
Certain years did not have it. I think 13 and 14 did not have that options for st3
thats sych 1 isnt it
I have an ST2, thats the only model that comes to Middle East but you know what sucks? i have the base model headlight like in the video... but i have NO DRL........... JUST HALOGEN WHICH IS ANNOYING