I did this in the 90's. You can use an answering machine message tape, which is an endless loop. There will be a dropout at the loop point, but you can shmear it through reverb a and/or delay.
I found out when RUclips issued a content ID strike against this video and diverted monetization for this video to them. I appealed with RUclips and got the strike dropped. I posted about it on Reddit and their management reached out to me to discuss compensation but then ghosted me after a few emails. Pretty sketchy guys honestly.
@@mmmofti in the early 2000s I had started playing guitar and a guy I knew just gave me one. They weren't really worth anything as DAWs were becoming more popular. Wish I still had it, but lost it in a house fire about 15 years ago.
@@mmmofti The 424 was one of the higher end models but I believe Tandy's sold Radioshack branded equipment that wasn't as expensive. Or if you bought an old one second-hand they were very cheap ( you could get a used one for under £100 if you were lucky ).
.....unabridged. I LOVE THIS VIDEO. Those chords are so gorgeous great job man keep it up! Would love to hear more of this with some more parts (beats, etc.)
cool stuff. i used to slow mine right down and then run really far ahead of it. some times very far away and hide. its brilliant to come back to the recording and speed it up and imagine your self running really fast while you left it to record. some times i wouldn't come back just to throw something extra into the mix
I just bought a 414 MKII for recording demos... I'm so glad I came across this video. Got a couple of nice pedals so I'll hook them up and give this a go. Keep making stuff like this!
Great video ! I saw the original a couple years ago and had the same reaction you did . I had a friend who'd taken a similar route , but he performed with 4 track and drum machine . one track was an old inspirational lecture , 2 tracks for main melody and bridge , last track for bass . it turned out like super cool lofi hip hop....but in the early 00's . I'm thinking that if you cranked the channel gain knobs way up and the master volume down you could use that artificial clipping to take advantage of the natural distortion . I think NIN had used that with compressors at one point , but I'm not really clear on that .
thank you so much for making a video like this. that video of allesandro had me curious, i even saw them on that tour and could never pick out when or if that tape deck was being used
I did a similar thing using a Tascam DA-38 and an Alesis Studio 32 mixer. I recorded all the song elements from my pc to the DA-38 8 track tape, then basically mixed the recorded sounds live. I combined the 8 tracks of audio with drum loops from my Casio RZ-1 drum machine. Delay and reverb were added as part of the live mix. Fun stuff!
That was really good. I just found out the vocal backing for 10cc's "im not in love" was recorded in a similar way, with 13 individual vocal notes recorded on a loop of 16 track tape, then played back with 4 people working the faders. This reminded me very much of that.
Beautiful ! thanks for reminding me of the 4 track days, i used to record on a Fostex 4 tracks,..the last one was XR-7,..and the sound was unforgetable maybe ill go for one again as it sound so alive
Hello! Alessandro is one of my favorite musicians. I must say, after finding out the exact model of his Tascam, I went and bought one. I've been into Tape Based Machines for years now and he blew me away with that machine. Thanks for the video, man. Very awesome example of endless possibilities! :)
Awesome video! I think it's safe to say that the Tascam part of Sonicstate's interview with Alessandro blew everyone's mind. Thanks for taking the time to share this! I'm looking forward to more videos from you :).
I seen the same video about Cortini´s live set up and the most interesting thing was the way he use the tascam so thanks for make this explanation video.
Great job!! I use a Yamaha 2816 digital porta studio all the time as a sampler ,looper and effects loop . Digital quality and 50 + effects and compressors make it crazy-versatile. Ambient pad pieces are easy to mix and control with this superb piece of equipment. I see them on ebay all the time for 1 or 2 hundred$$$ .I use mine every day.
I saw the Alessandro Cortini video and thought the tape thing was cool but that I would never bother with it. After seeing this you have inspired me, I just bought one from Ebay. Thank you for making a great quality video. Keep them up. I subscribed.
Sounds freaking amazing!! Why did we think digital stuff sounded good back in the day and stuff like this sounded bad? I kick myself for selling my mk2 . Now I produce with no computers and really miss the character these older tascam machines had.
haha yes, without permission or compensation. when i emailed them about it, they ghosted me. now it has millions of plays and it's literally just my audio. ugh.
My first 4 track cassette recorder was a Tascam Porta One, but I also borrowed higher end models like the Porta 424 in the mid-late 90s. I also had a Yamaha MT-400. Then after that I bought a laptop and from then on I have recorded everything digitally but I have always and still do release alums in cassette format.
I saw the same video couple of months ago and was intrigued by the same thing! Started looking into it after that..your video definitely helps - thanks!
Alessandro's live rig is truly impressive. I'll need to grab myself one of those. I've got a Tascam Portastudio as well but it's the smaller silver one, with one input.
I have the exact same Tascam. They turn army green after being in a 130 degree summer attic for several years. However, the electronic part is just as crappy as when I bought it new.
I've wanted to hear an example of this since seeing Cortini's live rig. Thank you. Sounds amazing by the way. Now off to track down a 4-track cassette recorder
Yep, sampled without permission or payment. When I emailed with their manager, they ghosted me. Now it’s their #1 song with 12 million streams. When they posted the album, RUclips issued a copyright strike against my video because they thought I was using their song in my video. THAT’S how little the modified the audio from my video!
@@exploringaudio1999 I've been following this story for years now, and I watched your video around the time it was posted even more years ago. I don't know how legal things work, but I'm sure with a decent lawyer you can fight this thing. If you ever do some sort of funding campaign for legal fees, I would be happy to chip in.
Sounds so beautiful. I really wish mine had a tape speed switch that jumps an octave up /down instantly like yours. I feel like that has so much potential.
or what's more fun - you can record a differnt pitch drone on each track and then 'play' it like a keyboard... that's sort of how 10cc did their ethereal vox parts for their hit song 'I'm not in love' - look it up - the documentary is here on youtube.
Now I gots to pull the 488 out of mothballs! Really well done. We did performances similar to this with a few stereo tapes for a mates music seminars. Never thought to do similar with the 488
@@jcravath i can confirm that dark sky sampled this without my permission, yes. when they released that album it actually issued a copyright strike against this video!
Switching the tape speed was cool, I loved the low speed, but when you went up to the highest speed, it sounded almost Pipe organ, reminded me of Interstellar sountrack! Very cool!
Oh, this makes a lot of sense, I have been playing with this same idea, but instead I've been using casette players all plugged into a mixer. Casette players are generally really cheap and widely available at used stores and such things. They all have their own artifacts and little problems that can really add to your palate.
Cor, I had a Tascam. Mine was black. The sliders eventually went a bit crackly - yours seem to be in much better condition. It was good fun though, I think the main limitation at the time was synchronisation. Of course nowadays a second-hand ThinkPad plus Ableton Live plus a bunch of VST instruments is a lot more practical (and cheaper, too, depending on the version of Ableton you buy).
Do you know the BBC's sci-fi series Doctor Who? The history regarding its sound design and use of electronic music might really, really interest you...
EXPLORING AUDIO There are many. Delia Derbyshire's version of the Doctor Who theme, the original televised version (as well as her remixed version used from 1967 to 1980) is one of the most innovative electronic compositions made with a television series or film in mind. Same goes for much of the sound design in it for its first 15 or so years, and some of the incidental music in the 60s and early 70s. Even Peter Howell's version, from 1980, has more innovation to it than most people might think. Would love it if you made a video concerning one of those things.
EXPLORING AUDIO very interesting..how can you record the real time progressions you have shown us here, as a complete new stereo track in your daw again, combining all four of the tascam tracks...how did you interconnect the tascam with your daw, what do you need? 4 channel audio interface, 2 channel, direct outs, line outs, xlr's? how did you recorded each of the loops from your daw to the cassete in the beginning?
Love it ! I just got the same 424 yesterday and it's a whole new world to me. I know your video has been posted few years ago but if you are still around I might have a couple of questions: - when you use tracks 3/4 the TRK meters seem to be still associated to tracks 1/2 (which are SIDE A left/right, if I'm not wrong), but how did you manage this ? - does it means 3/4 aren't on SIDE B left/right anymore ? - oh and just for the sake my own curiosity...could u tell me what was your plugin on Ableton ? (it actually sounds great, especially the high tone on track 4 !) thanks :)
When I was younger I could not afford a wem tape loop delay, so I used to make short loops of tape and put them around partially full reels on casette tapes, and then diconnect the erase head so on my normal tape recorder, so that I could record onto the loop over and over and layer what was on there. You couldn't record and play at the same time, but it was good. The same sort of tape loops could be made for use here.
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Hahahhhaha
Can relate
i could listen to this all day, the pitch changes sound so good.
I did this in the 90's. You can use an answering machine message tape, which is an endless loop. There will be a dropout at the loop point, but you can shmear it through reverb a and/or delay.
"Dark Sky" sampled this exact video on their track "Angels" from 2017. Found out by chance. Did you know that?
I found out when RUclips issued a content ID strike against this video and diverted monetization for this video to them. I appealed with RUclips and got the strike dropped. I posted about it on Reddit and their management reached out to me to discuss compensation but then ghosted me after a few emails. Pretty sketchy guys honestly.
@@exploringaudio1999 Oh no thats frustrating! Sorry to hear that. And thanks for the insight.
Wow I was trying to find out what track was that. It's his most played track also. That's so fu**ed up!
This is way too awesome!
Ohhhh... So THIS video is why Portastudios on ebay just spiked to fetish prices!
how much were they before ? they are still crazy high! $600+
@@mmmofti in the early 2000s I had started playing guitar and a guy I knew just gave me one. They weren't really worth anything as DAWs were becoming more popular. Wish I still had it, but lost it in a house fire about 15 years ago.
I just got one for around $200. :D. Pretty happy about that. Nearly mint, too.
EDIT: It's a MKII for anyone who cares.
@@mmmofti The 424 was one of the higher end models but I believe Tandy's sold Radioshack branded equipment
that wasn't as expensive. Or if you bought an old one second-hand they were very cheap ( you could get a used
one for under £100 if you were lucky ).
This sounds like it belongs on a soundtrack to a really good movie.
like anything composed by Nine Inch Nails
Blade Runner
When he hit that last switch and the octave went up, I was like he is killing it! Amazing.
I'm back 4 month later and still I could listen to it forever
Hey EXPLORING AUDIO, cool thing to see this old analog technic again after years :) Thanks for making this video and thumb up
.....unabridged. I LOVE THIS VIDEO. Those chords are so gorgeous great job man keep it up! Would love to hear more of this with some more parts (beats, etc.)
Excellent, thanks for showing this in action. I put up a "wanted" ad for a used tape recorder immediately after seeing that Alessandro Cortini video.
link it up to a looping cassette from old answering machines for endless ambient loops
I didn't realize they actually sell cassette tapes that are loops! Such a great idea that I really need to add in.
Can confirm it works amazingly well!
They used this same technique to make the choral pads in I'm Not In Love - 10 CC
Thank you. You saved me the effort.
Also R.E.M. on Star Me Kitten, according to the Parallel DVD.
cool stuff. i used to slow mine right down and then run really far ahead of it. some times very far away and hide. its brilliant to come back to the recording and speed it up and imagine your self running really fast while you left it to record. some times i wouldn't come back just to throw something extra into the mix
I just bought a 414 MKII for recording demos... I'm so glad I came across this video. Got a couple of nice pedals so I'll hook them up and give this a go. Keep making stuff like this!
Great video ! I saw the original a couple years ago and had the same reaction you did . I had a friend who'd taken a similar route , but he performed with 4 track and drum machine . one track was an old inspirational lecture , 2 tracks for main melody and bridge , last track for bass . it turned out like super cool lofi hip hop....but in the early 00's . I'm thinking that if you cranked the channel gain knobs way up and the master volume down you could use that artificial clipping to take advantage of the natural distortion . I think NIN had used that with compressors at one point , but I'm not really clear on that .
thank you so much for making a video like this. that video of allesandro had me curious, i even saw them on that tour and could never pick out when or if that tape deck was being used
Man that is every bit as gorgeous as Alessandro Cortini, and I adore him. Nice work!
SUCH A GREAT INSPIRING WAY to use the porta in that way!
Pretty cool!
exactly what I thought when I saw the Sonicstate video!
I did a similar thing using a Tascam DA-38 and an Alesis Studio 32 mixer. I recorded all the song elements from my pc to the DA-38 8 track tape, then basically mixed the recorded sounds live. I combined the 8 tracks of audio with drum loops from my Casio RZ-1 drum machine. Delay and reverb were added as part of the live mix. Fun stuff!
That was really good. I just found out the vocal backing for 10cc's "im not in love" was recorded in a similar way, with 13 individual vocal notes recorded on a loop of 16 track tape, then played back with 4 people working the faders. This reminded me very much of that.
Beautiful ! thanks for reminding me of the 4 track days, i used to record on a Fostex 4 tracks,..the last one was XR-7,..and the sound was unforgetable maybe ill go for one again as it sound so alive
My friend has the same as the first Tascam. We keep talking about much we need to start using it. This opens up so many more possibilities.
Hello! Alessandro is one of my favorite musicians. I must say, after finding out the exact model of his Tascam, I went and bought one. I've been into Tape Based Machines for years now and he blew me away with that machine. Thanks for the video, man. Very awesome example of endless possibilities! :)
Awesome video! I think it's safe to say that the Tascam part of Sonicstate's interview with Alessandro blew everyone's mind. Thanks for taking the time to share this! I'm looking forward to more videos from you :).
I seen the same video about Cortini´s live set up and the most interesting thing was the way he use the tascam so thanks for make this explanation video.
My band recorded our first demos on a 424. It is a great piece of kit to use.
Great job!! I use a Yamaha 2816 digital porta studio all the time as a sampler ,looper and effects loop . Digital quality and 50 + effects and compressors make it crazy-versatile. Ambient pad pieces are easy to mix and control with this superb piece of equipment. I see them on ebay all the time for 1 or 2 hundred$$$ .I use mine every day.
very Boads of Canada sounding...
certain settings on the Eventide make things sound VERY boards of canada.
ha! just wanted to write the same right now.
It's for the analog sound.
I saw the Alessandro Cortini video and thought the tape thing was cool but that I would never bother with it. After seeing this you have inspired me, I just bought one from Ebay. Thank you for making a great quality video. Keep them up. I subscribed.
Nice man, thank you for creating this!
Fabulous My Man!! Funny, I saw that same video a few months ago - what you have done sounds wonderful!!
So awesome! (I commented on the Matrixsynth FB page)! Thanks for the fun and unique idea :)
no problem! thanks for watching!
This video is so fresh!
lovely!, now CV the Speed Pot and Switches...... have fun!
absolutely great - thanks for showing us this...
Thanks for making this video! Much Enjoy!
Thank you for this video. Very interesting work and beautiful music as a result.
Sounds freaking amazing!! Why did we think digital stuff sounded good back in the day and stuff like this sounded bad? I kick myself for selling my mk2 . Now I produce with no computers and really miss the character these older tascam machines had.
Cool demo. Cortini seems to really utilize the pitch wheel judging from the marks around the knob marking particular pitches for particular songs.
Holy shit was this sampled on Angles - Dark Sky??
haha yes, without permission or compensation. when i emailed them about it, they ghosted me. now it has millions of plays and it's literally just my audio. ugh.
Excellent work. Well done. Beautiful.
So lovely! I just bought the same exact Tascam the other day so I will have to try this out :)
My first 4 track cassette recorder was a Tascam Porta One, but I also borrowed higher end models
like the Porta 424 in the mid-late 90s. I also had a Yamaha MT-400. Then after that I bought a laptop
and from then on I have recorded everything digitally but I have always and still do release alums in
cassette format.
So innovative and creative. Thanks!
This is very cool! Will have to give this a try... so many applications!
This has given me great ideas. Thank you.
Great equipment, nice video!
I discovered this on my own decades ago.
Lovely use of of the Tascam. Was doing something similar a few years ago.
the possibilities with guitar pedals are endless, this would be rad with harmonisers and pitch shifters.....
I saw the same video couple of months ago and was intrigued by the same thing! Started looking into it after that..your video definitely helps - thanks!
wow, this is awesome. Thanks for the demo
I hope to see some more videos from you soon. Good job.
Alessandro's live rig is truly impressive. I'll need to grab myself one of those. I've got a Tascam Portastudio as well but it's the smaller silver one, with one input.
That's a really neat trick! Good video too :)
Thanks so much! I am a BIG FAN of your videos so that means a lot!
so glad i produced this hit. this is my greatest hit so far
I have the exact same Tascam. They turn army green after being in a 130 degree summer attic for several years. However, the electronic part is just as crappy as when I bought it new.
kind of sums up NIN shouting into a tascam tape machine pretending to be a young man charging 100 dollars for a ticket to watch them do it. lol
@@mrblister8359 Damn why you gotta do them like that 😂
@@mrblister8359 How many of those tickets did you buy?
I've wanted to hear an example of this since seeing Cortini's live rig. Thank you. Sounds amazing by the way. Now off to track down a 4-track cassette recorder
I think I just realized that this may have been sampled in "Angels" by Dark Sky...The chords line up PERFECTLY
Yep, sampled without permission or payment. When I emailed with their manager, they ghosted me. Now it’s their #1 song with 12 million streams. When they posted the album, RUclips issued a copyright strike against my video because they thought I was using their song in my video. THAT’S how little the modified the audio from my video!
Man this story, it's crazy
@@exploringaudio1999 I've been following this story for years now, and I watched your video around the time it was posted even more years ago. I don't know how legal things work, but I'm sure with a decent lawyer you can fight this thing. If you ever do some sort of funding campaign for legal fees, I would be happy to chip in.
great video! really inspired me to play around with some neglected equipment i have, cheers!
Sounds so beautiful. I really wish mine had a tape speed switch that jumps an octave up /down instantly like yours. I feel like that has so much potential.
I've got an old Yamaha 4 track on a shelf. Our students will like this. I'm going to add this to our Flow program. Thanks so much for the idea.
Those 4-track cassette rigs were great for what they were, and I still like mine. Tascam should start making them again.
here from Dark Sky to pay respect. Beautiful work man. :)
or what's more fun - you can record a differnt pitch drone on each track and then 'play' it like a keyboard... that's sort of how 10cc did their ethereal vox parts for their hit song 'I'm not in love' - look it up - the documentary is here on youtube.
You're right.
Amazing man! Thanks for sharing.
Impressive, especially the parts after 5:00 - it would make a great sci-fi ambience track.
Beautiful.
Now I gots to pull the 488 out of mothballs!
Really well done. We did performances similar to this with a few stereo tapes for a mates music seminars. Never thought to do similar with the 488
That's pretty cool, man.
Thanks for sharing.
Beautiful piece of music, loved it.
useful tool right here!! Thanks for the vid man!
wait.. uhhh isnt that "angels" by Dark Sky???
Nick, can you confirm this?
@@jcravath i can confirm that dark sky sampled this without my permission, yes. when they released that album it actually issued a copyright strike against this video!
Switching the tape speed was cool, I loved the low speed, but when you went up to the highest speed, it sounded almost Pipe organ, reminded me of Interstellar sountrack! Very cool!
Im crying this is beautiful
Oh, this makes a lot of sense, I have been playing with this same idea, but instead I've been using casette players all plugged into a mixer. Casette players are generally really cheap and widely available at used stores and such things. They all have their own artifacts and little problems that can really add to your palate.
Very cool, I'm going to try this
Wow!!!! Thx alot for posting this!!!! ☺️👍
OMG this brings back so many good memories of my Portastudio!
I am so inspired by this.
Awesome! The Portastudio was a great machine.
really cool! I like that is has a tape speed button. the 414 only has the pitch control knob afaik
This is great and very inspiring. I plan on trying this out.
Amazing work!
I'm looking for this exact model, the original 424 with the tape speed switch. Here's yet another reason I would love one of these!
Cor, I had a Tascam. Mine was black. The sliders eventually went a bit crackly - yours seem to be in much better condition. It was good fun though, I think the main limitation at the time was synchronisation.
Of course nowadays a second-hand ThinkPad plus Ableton Live plus a bunch of VST instruments is a lot more practical (and cheaper, too, depending on the version of Ableton you buy).
Awesome stuff! Thanks for sharing :D
tht´s the way we use ,to do make music in those days..i love it
Do you know the BBC's sci-fi series Doctor Who?
The history regarding its sound design and use of electronic music might really, really interest you...
Definitely! I think I saw a BBC documentary that talked about that!
EXPLORING AUDIO There are many. Delia Derbyshire's version of the Doctor Who theme, the original televised version (as well as her remixed version used from 1967 to 1980) is one of the most innovative electronic compositions made with a television series or film in mind. Same goes for much of the sound design in it for its first 15 or so years, and some of the incidental music in the 60s and early 70s. Even Peter Howell's version, from 1980, has more innovation to it than most people might think.
Would love it if you made a video concerning one of those things.
lovely, thankyou!
The basic chords and synth already sound great.
This is great!
Thanks!
EXPLORING AUDIO very interesting..how can you record the real time progressions you have shown us here, as a complete new stereo track in your daw again, combining all four of the tascam tracks...how did you interconnect the tascam with your daw, what do you need? 4 channel audio interface, 2 channel, direct outs, line outs, xlr's? how did you recorded each of the loops from your daw to the cassete in the beginning?
Also wondering about that + I would love to hear the initial chords. What instrument did you use? Then I could compare both. Thanks :)
Yes i was just talking about this on someone else's channel. im so curious to integrate this with my gear.
So very mediative. So very cool.
Love it !
I just got the same 424 yesterday and it's a whole new world to me. I know your video has been posted few years ago but if you are still around I might have a couple of questions:
- when you use tracks 3/4 the TRK meters seem to be still associated to tracks 1/2 (which are SIDE A left/right, if I'm not wrong), but how did you manage this ?
- does it means 3/4 aren't on SIDE B left/right anymore ?
- oh and just for the sake my own curiosity...could u tell me what was your plugin on Ableton ? (it actually sounds great, especially the high tone on track 4 !)
thanks :)
Thought this was gonna be awful, was completely wrong. Sounds absolutely awesome!
Sounds great
When I was younger I could not afford a wem tape loop delay, so I used to make short loops of tape and put them around partially full reels on casette tapes, and then diconnect the erase head so on my normal tape recorder, so that I could record onto the loop over and over and layer what was on there. You couldn't record and play at the same time, but it was good. The same sort of tape loops could be made for use here.