Beautiful.....the place is very clean and the initiates are clean as well. I love how other initiates help the new initiates👏👏👏Bravo kubobonke aboGobela
I'm so overwhelmed because my initiating spirit explained everything he said through dreams and visions. Everything he says is facts. I even have half of the cloaks already, abaNtu abaDala took me shopping two weeks ago. Bayede eMakhosini, Ndauwe, Camagwini. 🌹🌹🌹🌹
beautiful and poetic, i love the cleanliness, shows how the Gobela's take care of their initiates, they encourage team work. what ive seen out there at some places and how they treat people, yho nkosi yame.
I did visit this place. I was impressed about the set up and the well organized things. Camagu Mkhulu Manzolwandle your Isigodlo is a new way of spirituals homes. Camagu
Camagu. Does anyone know the name of the song that starts at 15:30, ngathi ngingagida when it's playing. Also a very beautiful look into intwaso, simple and not delving too much into what may be regarded sacred.
Thokozani bo Gogo no Mkhulu May I humbly ask that in your description or maybe pin a comment that will have the names of the songs that you chosen for your video or even the link of where to download them. We would like to download them. Camagu.
I watched through this video and my impression is it is well done and explained. By that I mean it has demystified the process and the reason for Intwaso. What I did not hear is whether this is a Swati or Xhosa way of ukuthwasisa, although I've got an impression that it is really not a Xhosa way because I'm a Xhosa person. I heard from our history that the Zulu, Xhosa, Swati, Ndebele and other related tribes are all NGUNI, but I don't know how come we do our customs differently. I know it might be long story. But, I'm just expressing my opinion and curiosity. A great video, indeed. Thanks.
Thokoza. Thank you for supporting this channel and we are glad you enjoyed watching this episode. With regard to your question, this particular initiation falls in line with the Thokoza lineage. The Thokoza lineage, as the video states, primarily initiates working/healing spirits such as umnguni and umndau. Moreover, this process of initiation is not limited to any particular ethnic group, however it is a dominant method yokuthwasa in areas such as Mpumalanga and Swaziland. Furthermore, over and above this initiation process, it is also possible for a person to be expected to initiate idlozi lasekhaya i.e Amakhosi (Zulu, Swati, Ndebele) or Intsimbi emhlophe (Xhosa). Of course, the latter will differ from person to person and will largely be based on one's ethnic group :) Again, thank you for your support. Please don't forget to like and subscribe so that you are notified about our upcoming videos. #Camagu
@@MkhuluManzolwandle Thanks. It's always good to ask because some people just do things without any questions asked and at the end of the day they suffer the consequences. Another question I always held in my mind and nobody seemed to answer it in detail is the question of the white people who have got their own European ancestors coming to our own culture for their intwaso. I have a white friend who did his intwaso under the Xhosa tradition and he took 10 years finishing his initiation. What kind of ancestors do they have...Jan Van Riebeek, Pik Botha, Koornhoff, Jan Smarts, Cecil John Rhodes etc. or what??? Is this right or wrong?
I love the song of Ngihlushwa umoya Thokozani If you have it can you please send it to me Coz when I listen to it ,I feel like my ancestor can come out
Beautiful.....the place is very clean and the initiates are clean as well. I love how other initiates help the new initiates👏👏👏Bravo kubobonke aboGobela
I'm so overwhelmed because my initiating spirit explained everything he said through dreams and visions. Everything he says is facts.
I even have half of the cloaks already, abaNtu abaDala took me shopping two weeks ago.
Bayede eMakhosini, Ndauwe, Camagwini.
🌹🌹🌹🌹
This was so beautiful, informative and encouraging. I am somewhat excited for my own personal growth and experience. Camagu
Camagu
Thokoza
Lesedi
Kganya
♥️♥️✨✨
beautiful and poetic, i love the cleanliness, shows how the Gobela's take care of their initiates, they encourage team work. what ive seen out there at some places and how they treat people, yho nkosi yame.
I did visit this place. I was impressed about the set up and the well organized things. Camagu Mkhulu Manzolwandle your Isigodlo is a new way of spirituals homes. Camagu
Thank you for sharing this sacred gift with us .
Thank you for allowing us access into this beautiful space 🙏🏾
Camagu Gogo! Makusoloko kukhanya kwindlela zakho. You're doing amazing! This is surely what you're called for... A medium... A media Gogo 🕯
Thokoza 🙌
2:20 i love this song🔥
Beautiful!!!
Here for Mkhulu Nyathi..
Hey hey! Thank you!
Camagwini bahlekazi. Mhle umsebenzi wenu. Please assist me with the song that starts at 23:23. That version is beautiful.
Camagu. Does anyone know the name of the song that starts at 15:30, ngathi ngingagida when it's playing.
Also a very beautiful look into intwaso, simple and not delving too much into what may be regarded sacred.
Lovely, thank you for sharing your experience with us .
So beautiful wow
😭😭😭Wow I am so emotional 😭 😭 💕💕💕
Very informative. Thank you
Thokozani bo Gogo no Mkhulu
May I humbly ask that in your description or maybe pin a comment that will have the names of the songs that you chosen for your video or even the link of where to download them. We would like to download them.
Camagu.
Siyacamagusha kwikhaya lethu 🙏🏿
whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved...plz guys accept JESUS CHRIST as your Lord and saviour
I watched through this video and my impression is it is well done and explained. By that I mean it has demystified the process and the reason for Intwaso. What I did not hear is whether this is a Swati or Xhosa way of ukuthwasisa, although I've got an impression that it is really not a Xhosa way because I'm a Xhosa person. I heard from our history that the Zulu, Xhosa, Swati, Ndebele and other related tribes are all NGUNI, but I don't know how come we do our customs differently. I know it might be long story. But, I'm just expressing my opinion and curiosity. A great video, indeed. Thanks.
Thokoza. Thank you for supporting this channel and we are glad you enjoyed watching this episode.
With regard to your question, this particular initiation falls in line with the Thokoza lineage. The Thokoza lineage, as the video states, primarily initiates working/healing spirits such as umnguni and umndau. Moreover, this process of initiation is not limited to any particular ethnic group, however it is a dominant method yokuthwasa in areas such as Mpumalanga and Swaziland. Furthermore, over and above this initiation process, it is also possible for a person to be expected to initiate idlozi lasekhaya i.e Amakhosi (Zulu, Swati, Ndebele) or Intsimbi emhlophe (Xhosa). Of course, the latter will differ from person to person and will largely be based on one's ethnic group :)
Again, thank you for your support. Please don't forget to like and subscribe so that you are notified about our upcoming videos.
#Camagu
@@MkhuluManzolwandle Thanks. It's always good to ask because some people just do things without any questions asked and at the end of the day they suffer the consequences. Another question I always held in my mind and nobody seemed to answer it in detail is the question of the white people who have got their own European ancestors coming to our own culture for their intwaso. I have a white friend who did his intwaso under the Xhosa tradition and he took 10 years finishing his initiation. What kind of ancestors do they have...Jan Van Riebeek, Pik Botha, Koornhoff, Jan Smarts, Cecil John Rhodes etc. or what??? Is this right or wrong?
@@skimanization 😂😂😂uwrongo yaz
@@skimanization I've always wanted to knw that myself and no1 is willing to answer...
I agree with you....
Can we have the songs they really touch me somewhere ❤❤❤❤😭😭
Makhosi!!!
A lesedi le kganye🙏🕯
Camagu👏🏽
Camagu elihle 👏👏
Thokozani
woooow where in Joburg are this waters located?
Camagu👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Hi. Id like to know how I can get the soundtrack/song from 12:15
Camagu🙏🙏🙏
Proudly African
I love the song of Ngihlushwa umoya
Thokozani
If you have it can you please send it to me
Coz when I listen to it ,I feel like my ancestor can come out
Thokoza msila wengwe Zulu !
Camagu 👏👏👏
Sabela gogo uyabizwa... Can anyone help me to find this vision Camagu
where can I get song in the begining?
5:04 can i please have the song ❤
Camagu, which river is this?
Thokoza. It’s a river in Bryanston. It forms part of the Juksei river.
Camagu 🙏🏾
Thokoza 📿❤️