I have been thoroughly enjoying your descent into the world of vintage test equipment. I've always been curious about that kind of gear, because I always see things like that in surplus shops and wondered if it could be used to make music. Your channel has been very educational in that regard.
Hope you find those tasty drones again! Those crackles were interesting too, you should capture long takes of those at different settings for coloring uses. I'd love to see a sample pack from you of different static from all these machines. It be cool to find the guys who designed these things and get them to modify them for recording use, get all the dusty juices out of the different components!
@Hainbach it looks like that data recorder accepts an external sync signal on the "Umschaltung Ext" (or trigger external) if you switch the INT. EXT. switch to external. If you switch that trigger to external and leave the input floating; you _should_ lose the sync pulse on the output.
I'm sure the motor speed can be cv controlled and thus make pitch modulation available. Maybe by using a vactrol to starve the motor. It's like an analog grain machine!
I really enjoy this type of videos in which you have some weird new machine and try to figure out whats type of sound may come out of it. Also the way you managed to create a great sound overcoming that annoying trigger sound was genius.
Thank you! I have a similar video coming out tonight, but I had to cut out the long exploration part because the machine only wanted to sing one lonely song.
@14:40 on is truly gorgeous ambient! A nice percussion line behind this would make for an excellent track, no? Thank you for your videos, as always, Hainbach! Makes the latter half of my day better :)
Just as a warning to others: Spray cans have a valve that you press to open. If the can is really old, that valve can get stuck in the open position and you wil have no way of forcing it to close again. It will simply spray the entire contents of the can untillit is empty.If you are testing it with just a tissue, you're in big trouble. always test old spraycans outside or in a sink or some place where you can handle the entire contents of the can coming out. Or better yet: get a new can, because even if the valve appears to work the first few times, gunk can make it's way into the system as the can is agitated and the valve can get stuck at any time.
Should be possible to find the source of that trigger signal if you open it up and probe the PCB with an oscilloscope? But I was wondering, do you set yourself rules when you work with test equipment? Would you consider heavily modding something to make it do what you want or would you prefer to use creative patching to get the sounds? Creating is all about setting yourself constraints, after all :)
I would be totally bup for modding something, that is how the greats in the past did it or rather had it done by their technicians. But I lack the skills.
I thought it sounded brilliant as always Hainbach, you are really talented at coaxing and wrangling complex hardware; seemingly intuitively..::: 💚 I love the pronunciation of signalspeicher!!! (not my 1st language but I feel it in my genes...:: )
Always fascinated by this kind of gear and video. You're lucky to manage to get that Montreal assembly C T 5. I tried to get one, but even when you have the funds available your timing has to be right to catch one I think. There's some guy in Australia (Seppuku) who makes weird pedals like that too! Nearest thing I own to the Bruel & Kjaer filters is a Universal Audio 565 little dipper cinematic filter set.
Great rich sound! Go for the mods, an attenuator here, filter capacitor there...no problem(?) (just be sure to be wearing rubber boots-possible high voltages)
Wow Grundig has always produced so nice equipments, so solid and professionals. But this is marvellous, and using it for producing sound it's insane! :D
ich hab erst vor zwei taagen erfahren das du aus deutschland kommst und intersseire mich seit einigen jahren für analoge sound syntese......habe bisher leider nicht die finaziellen möglichkeiten gehabt mich mit dem thema auseinanderzusetzen......ich bin musiker seit dem ich 6 jahre alt bin(25 jahre) bisher hatte ich nur die möglichkeit akkustik instrumente kennen und spielen zu lernen........ich habe eine klassische schlagzegausbildung.....habe aber in der zwischenzeit die möglichkeit gehabt mich mit einigen instrumenten auseinanderzusetzen.......queeerflöte, trompete, posaune, violine, cello, bass,klavier, orgel, percuiions instrumenten. ich bin ein rytmiker und darum im moment in der auseinadersetzung mit 11/7 polirythm.......ich finde dich sehr inspirierend und versuche mich derzeit an NI reaktor projekten...... musikalisch beschäftige ich mich sehr satrk mit psychodelischer musik....... bitte hau weiter solch einen gourmet shit raus..... würde mich freuen wenn ich die finaziellen möglichkeiten habe mich mit dem thema sound synthese auseiander zu setzen und wenn ich die besagten erfahrungen habe würde ich mich gerne mal melden...... ich bin ein sehr theater und ballet affiner mensch......und ich denke wenn ich die ausdrucksmöglichkeiten habe könnten wir beide....(nicht von meinem technischen wisssen) ergänzen und inspirieren...... ich strebe eine ausbildung in theatertherapie an und würde mich freuen wenn du die zeit für einen austausch mit sollch nem kleinen musiker bzw in deinem bereich künstler möglich wäre...... ich habe sehr viele grundlagen von dir gelernt und möchte dir in meinem namen und in dem namen der menschen die das was ich tue bedanken....... lg und bis bald (LRS aber das ist zum glück nicht für akustischen schaffen nötig)
I just had a thought... I recalled you have a Pocket Operator. Their clock is controlled by a click track. Maybe you could use this machine to control it? If you took that reference tone, mangled it and fed it into the Pocket Operator, might be interesting.
hainbach, the only one who tests test equipment and raises the price for completely useless gear. BUT the man actually makes great music so he is excused ;-)
You have one of the coolest studios ever!!! Question: what are you listening off of when messing with it? I see you have it plugged into your recorder/mixer thing, but don't see any speakers.
Out of curiosity I searched for schematics and manuals and think I might have found a way to suppress the sync pulse without modification. From a block diagram that appears in this paper (page 3 of www.radiostollenwerk.de/Images/Anleitung%20SS01.pdf ) it looks like you can bypass the internal sync oscillator through the external input - but nothing prevents you from not feeding it anything. This is highly speculative, I'm neither an engineer, nor german-speaking. Either way this is a pretty strange and interesting piece of gear, thank you for sharing your experiments!
I loved the drone sounds and noise you were getting during the trial and error segment of the video, may i sample them? The track at the end was great!
I just ordered a German very cheap cassette recorder £6.38 via amazon. I plan to make a delay, it will need another head installed and probably some electronics but hey it’s a project.
Guten day Hainbach. Ja, est ist ein sehr schone noise wann du switch it on at 8.06. The way it comes in, real nice. And is that Morse a Kraftwerk reference..? Also, 10.50 made me laugh my head off. New ring tone.
With all your old gear you could do a Button & Switches and sell it on asoundeffect.com . Or an Old Gear Electic Buzz library, sort of what Tim Prebble did. Great video.
Intriguing... only unfortunate that longer loops you have on hand - ones that don't come with the machine - would not seem to fit into the playback mechanism. Even with the faceplate of the playback mechanism removed (ruclips.net/video/nvkQ7CtCqtE/видео.html), it looks like the mechanism is sunken in too far to fit longer tape loops in. Nevertheless, it's cool that you found ways to coax nice sounds out of the device; it definitely seems to have potential.
Let us all strive to be practically not health damaging.
I can't believe you haven't bought a labcoat yet.
I have one, but I don't want to enforce stereotypes 😄
@@Hainbach Get a brown lab-coat.
That'd be the last thing necessary to achieve the mad german scientist status.
@@simondanielssonmusic and rubber gloves. Will be extra-uncomfortable, but status demands!
thats funky! now it makes sense when you were descrining it the other day!!
So...YOU DO HAVE A COMPUTER!
@@stephenmandelbaum2027 his mam wrote it for him.
Indiana Hainbach - The Secret of the Green Loop
The art on that magnetic tape cleanser would make an appropriate album cover!
A lovely man in his natural habitat.
Loved it when you routed the aufschweigen through the brulenschweiger.
The Breitschwinger sounds best in hubschieb mode!
@@Hainbach= Aha! I might have known! Danke! Love what you're doing keep it up :D
I got an ad for actual lab equipment at the beginning of your video :D The RUclips algorithm clearly wasn't prepared for someone like you.
That is actually funny!
I have been thoroughly enjoying your descent into the world of vintage test equipment. I've always been curious about that kind of gear, because I always see things like that in surplus shops and wondered if it could be used to make music. Your channel has been very educational in that regard.
The back and forth between English and German sounds simply großartig!
;P
asmr of hainbach opening boxes from 50 years ago and telling us he needs to get a knife
The origin of Hainbach knife ASMR: ruclips.net/video/gIAMGugWYns/видео.html
Rene Gannon-O'Gara it’s even ASMR when a knife gets dropped!
Hope you find those tasty drones again! Those crackles were interesting too, you should capture long takes of those at different settings for coloring uses. I'd love to see a sample pack from you of different static from all these machines. It be cool to find the guys who designed these things and get them to modify them for recording use, get all the dusty juices out of the different components!
matter-of-factly: “ouch, there was a knife”
*calmly stares at camera*
your magpie is showing 😁
The sounds coming out from the 10.00 point and the shots of the equipment are awesome. A great Sci-Fi laboratory scene.
Nice!
Good to see the Count To 5 in use too - I've just bought one. It's amazing.
The green tape loop is likely used to clean the heads. Use it with a little of the spray cleaner.
OMG This is a sonic-nerd paradise!!!
"Secret of the green Loop" - An instant track title I think :)
Sounds like the Enid Blyton books I read as a kid.
That feels more like a album/movie title.
inside the nostromo vibes, really nice
When Hainbach causally placed the knife down in a place that looked a bit risky I did wonder if he would regret it later.
Yes that short piece at the end was really nice : )
dude. so happy you're out there.
@Hainbach
it looks like that data recorder accepts an external sync signal on the "Umschaltung Ext" (or trigger external) if you switch the INT. EXT. switch to external. If you switch that trigger to external and leave the input floating; you _should_ lose the sync pulse on the output.
Sadly no - but I just made it almost disappear that way by finding a trigger that is on the same rate as the signal I am recording.
Incredible find!
Thank you so much for these video exploring fantastic rare equipment. Very educational! 👍
The track that you evolved this into was really beautiful.
Thank you Nathan!
The sonic laboratory is coming along nicely, excellent sounds toward the end there! Cheers!
That track was pretty incredible
I'm sure the motor speed can be cv controlled and thus make pitch modulation available. Maybe by using a vactrol to starve the motor. It's like an analog grain machine!
I really enjoy this type of videos in which you have some weird new machine and try to figure out whats type of sound may come out of it. Also the way you managed to create a great sound overcoming that annoying trigger sound was genius.
Thank you! I have a similar video coming out tonight, but I had to cut out the long exploration part because the machine only wanted to sing one lonely song.
@@Hainbach cant wait :)
Oh man, I love this german labeling ! ... wie geil, wenn das der Standard wäre.
@14:40 on is truly gorgeous ambient! A nice percussion line behind this would make for an excellent track, no?
Thank you for your videos, as always, Hainbach! Makes the latter half of my day better :)
Wow! Great sampling tool and the saturation from the tape as well as the pre amp must be quite awesome to add warmth or grit....Peace Christo
Love the dronesounds!
I like it. Good perseverance.
THE HAINBATCH HAS SPOKEN.
Good on you Hainbach for making good use of a dud.
Just as a warning to others: Spray cans have a valve that you press to open. If the can is really old, that valve can get stuck in the open position and you wil have no way of forcing it to close again. It will simply spray the entire contents of the can untillit is empty.If you are testing it with just a tissue, you're in big trouble.
always test old spraycans outside or in a sink or some place where you can handle the entire contents of the can coming out.
Or better yet: get a new can, because even if the valve appears to work the first few times, gunk can make it's way into the system as the can is agitated and the valve can get stuck at any time.
Should be possible to find the source of that trigger signal if you open it up and probe the PCB with an oscilloscope? But I was wondering, do you set yourself rules when you work with test equipment? Would you consider heavily modding something to make it do what you want or would you prefer to use creative patching to get the sounds? Creating is all about setting yourself constraints, after all :)
I would be totally bup for modding something, that is how the greats in the past did it or rather had it done by their technicians. But I lack the skills.
love a bit of ground hum
dude! just hell yes on this one!!!
The piece at the end was very beautiful. You have a good spaceship.
It sure takes me places!
@@Hainbach 🚀
Crazy and lovely track!
I thought it sounded brilliant as always Hainbach, you are really talented at coaxing and wrangling complex hardware; seemingly intuitively..:::
💚
I love the pronunciation of signalspeicher!!!
(not my 1st language but I feel it in my genes...:: )
Always fascinated by this kind of gear and video. You're lucky to manage to get that Montreal assembly C T 5. I tried to get one, but even when you have the funds available your timing has to be right to catch one I think. There's some guy in Australia (Seppuku) who makes weird pedals like that too! Nearest thing I own to the Bruel & Kjaer filters is a Universal Audio 565 little dipper cinematic filter set.
That sounds very interesting! Coil-based I presume?
I'm not sure. Probably. It was apparently made in 1970 so probably the oldest piece of gear I have. Its sort of the sonic scalpel of equalisers.
Great rich sound!
Go for the mods, an attenuator here, filter capacitor there...no problem(?)
(just be sure to be wearing rubber boots-possible high voltages)
I absolutely fucking love your channel
Thank you very much!
Logged on to RUclips just in time :D
Wow Grundig has always produced so nice equipments, so solid and professionals. But this is marvellous, and using it for producing sound it's insane! :D
Deine Videos sind immer so interessant! Subscribed.
13:30 hack: add a kick + some percussion at 132 bpm and get booked to play at berghain
14:40 perfect
Yeah, I am working on some percussive patching techniques - will come soon!
@@Hainbach nice! are you into techno at all?
Earlier tests sound great for industrial
Great turnout with this one! Well done! :)
It may be a 500ms long “microsound” but I can do something almost like this with the Brahm Bos tapelooper app you featured.
I felt like watching my own child giggle for the first time when you looked so darned happy about the cleaning fluid can still working XD
Ha, yeah I have kept that childish joy somehow.
ich hab erst vor zwei taagen erfahren das du aus deutschland kommst und intersseire mich seit einigen jahren für analoge sound syntese......habe bisher leider nicht die finaziellen möglichkeiten gehabt mich mit dem thema auseinanderzusetzen......ich bin musiker seit dem ich 6 jahre alt bin(25 jahre) bisher hatte ich nur die möglichkeit akkustik instrumente kennen und spielen zu lernen........ich habe eine klassische schlagzegausbildung.....habe aber in der zwischenzeit die möglichkeit gehabt mich mit einigen instrumenten auseinanderzusetzen.......queeerflöte, trompete, posaune, violine, cello, bass,klavier, orgel, percuiions instrumenten.
ich bin ein rytmiker und darum im moment in der auseinadersetzung mit 11/7 polirythm.......ich finde dich sehr inspirierend und versuche mich derzeit an NI reaktor projekten......
musikalisch beschäftige ich mich sehr satrk mit psychodelischer musik.......
bitte hau weiter solch einen gourmet shit raus.....
würde mich freuen wenn ich die finaziellen möglichkeiten habe mich mit dem thema sound synthese auseiander zu setzen und wenn ich die besagten erfahrungen habe würde ich mich gerne mal melden......
ich bin ein sehr theater und ballet affiner mensch......und ich denke wenn ich die ausdrucksmöglichkeiten habe könnten wir beide....(nicht von meinem technischen wisssen) ergänzen und inspirieren......
ich strebe eine ausbildung in theatertherapie an und würde mich freuen wenn du die zeit für einen austausch mit sollch nem kleinen musiker bzw in deinem bereich künstler möglich wäre......
ich habe sehr viele grundlagen von dir gelernt und möchte dir in meinem namen und in dem namen der menschen die das was ich tue bedanken.......
lg und bis bald (LRS aber das ist zum glück nicht für akustischen schaffen nötig)
Warped Vinyl with a Count to 5 is a solid combination
It's super fun!
spray nozzle is the world ur hunting for for the plastic straw atached to the spray can
You are the nearest I've found to a modern-day Joe Meek, for sure. 😄 Awesome, otherworld sounds.
Joe Meek is an inspiration for sure!
I just had a thought...
I recalled you have a Pocket Operator. Their clock is controlled by a click track.
Maybe you could use this machine to control it? If you took that reference tone, mangled it and fed it into the Pocket Operator, might be interesting.
That will for sure work, especially since I got the Bastl Klik. I just really don't like pocket operators.
Given what I’ve seen of your work, that makes sense.
Wow I'd love to find one of these, but I suspect that the output of rocking horses is probably more common isn't it ?!
Yeah, I never seen another one.
hainbach, the only one who tests test equipment and raises the price for completely useless gear. BUT the man actually makes great music so he is excused ;-)
That put a smile on my face
das musste ja mal gesagt werden. hier kollege lilak aus dem prenzlberch :-)
Heaven forbid you check out the manual first. 🤣
Always go in blind, then read 😄
As Andre Huang says: R.ead T.he F.un M.anual
I have no idea what are you doing there, but it's fun to watch 😂
love the rhythm that comes in at 13:30 ... what creates that rhythm?
That's some nice noise.
You have one of the coolest studios ever!!! Question: what are you listening off of when messing with it? I see you have it plugged into your recorder/mixer thing, but don't see any speakers.
Speakers are off to the side in the mixing/modular area
@@Hainbach Ah i see, thanks! :D
welcome to Raster (Noton) sound crew) It sounds similar as those guys are.
Hey I could do with some vcv ideas. Cheers to naming your channel in an efficient way. Onwards with your videos then.
or Sähkö records
Great video, it's there a vst anything like that 11:50 filter? Brilliant sound
Mmmh, I wonder if the INA GRM tools filter could work. But it's not as wet.
I want that filter so bad😍
Noob question. Do you use something to protect your monitors? I guess that this kind of machines can produce wild signals.
Yeah got a comp and limiter on the master buss
"let this be an indicator about the whole process of this video"
*spraying sound*
*screaming*
That thing must be crazy for some drony-madness.
ab 13:45 wirds echt funky...fast schon jeff mills artig...sehr geil!
Out of curiosity I searched for schematics and manuals and think I might have found a way to suppress the sync pulse without modification. From a block diagram that appears in this paper (page 3 of www.radiostollenwerk.de/Images/Anleitung%20SS01.pdf ) it looks like you can bypass the internal sync oscillator through the external input - but nothing prevents you from not feeding it anything. This is highly speculative, I'm neither an engineer, nor german-speaking. Either way this is a pretty strange and interesting piece of gear, thank you for sharing your experiments!
I have the full schematics, so I hope this is possible. Then it will be pretty incredible!
So this is what a synth mad scientist looks like, bunch of ancient test equipment singing
Kulturprogramm: Hainbach in der Microso-und-Tapelo-Oper
Yep, have Look Mom No Computer install Fart Mod Depth (FMD)
I loved the drone sounds and noise you were getting during the trial and error segment of the video, may i sample them? The track at the end was great!
Sample away! I will make these part of a big soundpack though of test equipment I plan for April.
Will it be exclusive to patreon supporters?
Yes!
I just ordered a German very cheap cassette recorder £6.38 via amazon. I plan to make a delay, it will need another head installed and probably some electronics but hey it’s a project.
I'd love to see you take it apart and remove that circuit
You're great
I think you need to send this one out to LMNC to have it modded
Guten day Hainbach. Ja, est ist ein sehr schone noise wann du switch it on at 8.06. The way it comes in, real nice. And is that Morse a Kraftwerk reference..?
Also, 10.50 made me laugh my head off. New ring tone.
Nicht absichtlich :-)
That music was cool. How did you get the dripping water sound?
That is the B&K filter recorded onto the Tascam 424 tape loop
4:00 using knife the wrong way made me cringe.
love your stuff
8:48 was OVAL
"That's some nice noise..." :D
Which Room mic are you using there seen in the video, (silver)? thanks
Studio projects T3
Thanks, never heard of it. Looks like a Neumann.@@Hainbach
With all your old gear you could do a Button & Switches and sell it on asoundeffect.com . Or an Old Gear Electic Buzz library, sort of what Tim Prebble did.
Great video.
also ct5 and AMA make things nice.
interesting bud! keep up the good work
"Ouch... that was a knife" :D
12:50 onwards sounds like an early senking record on karaoke kalk :D
May your health to not damage be. 😎
Does the can explode?
Irgend welche Neuigkeiten vom Signalspeicher?
Läuft!
Yeah, if you could record 19.5ms of 100kHz sounds and slow them down then you'd have something really awesome.
That is my dream!
Intriguing... only unfortunate that longer loops you have on hand - ones that don't come with the machine - would not seem to fit into the playback mechanism. Even with the faceplate of the playback mechanism removed (ruclips.net/video/nvkQ7CtCqtE/видео.html), it looks like the mechanism is sunken in too far to fit longer tape loops in. Nevertheless, it's cool that you found ways to coax nice sounds out of the device; it definitely seems to have potential.
Holy shit dude, I know what this is and what it was used for, how do you keep stumbling over this stuff?! ;)
Deep eBay was this one, curiosities and antiques 😄