Any other peeps in the Milan Art Mastery Program have a challenge with week 8? I have moved on and will revisit it down the road. Even though I didnt finish all of the assignments to my satisfaction I still learned a ton.
I am in the program too. The point isn’t to get stuck and stay there. Do your best to finish the assignments. Did you learn something? Take notes and keep a journal. I decided to not get hung up on my drawing skills. I have improved tremendously and that was my goal. As I work through the program, my drawing skills are continually improving. Don’t let the left brain keep you from moving on.
Hey Darla, ya mon. Good advice there. I moved on, I was stuck for a bit no getting around it. One has to also have a change of attitude as you for sure will run into things that 1-you don't like, 2-you suck at. NO BIG DEAL. That is exactly why I took the course to start with is to get a little bit better at the skills that I lack, but more importantly to get a whole lot better at the things I love and am passionate about and even find some new things. The program does all of that. @@darladonley3175
@@ArtGeekTeaching There are several oil painting techniques that I didn’t care for but did the assignment. I’m working on my final painting for Part 1. I’ve been a professional artist for five years. I’ve learned so many things. This program has been life changing for me. I’m excited to get to mixed media. Have you watched any episodes of the Outstanding Artist on RUclips? These contestants are so inspiring and their on the spot creativity is so amazing. 😊
@@darladonley3175 yup. I have watched most of them, dropped off about 6 months ago when I couldnt keep up with things again. I think everyone should be a member even if they don't take the course.
Your art is so awesome! I'm blown away by it. The style is very unique and makes them stand out from other portrait art I've seen. I plan on signing up for the Mastery program in Jan 2022.
Hi Lisa! Thank-you for taking the time to write and for your generous comments regarding my work. Do sign up for Milan! It is absolutely amazing. I am now in the extended "break" that I knew would come when school started. In roughly another month or so I will be able to get back to classes and also to making some videos. You will love Milan! I will give you a link to use. They used to give you a free class for using an affiliate link but I am not sure they do that. I will still have a course or something for those using my affiliate link though. Hit me up if I can help you with anything.
I totally skipped Week 8 too. It was the height of Covid, and I wasn't going anywhere, had no interest in portraits, and have even forgotten I skipped it until I saw this. 😊 I got stuck after the mixed media section - being unable to find my "voice" or create compositions I like. I've been on a side tangent trying out abstracts for quite a while, and just about to revisit Mastery. I have gotten a lot of value out of the program and am very happy I signed up for it 1½ years ago. I was pretty new to art, and what I have created has amazed me! And that people are buying my art has been even more amazing!
I have been creating like crazy, getting courses ready to launch and trying to finish a book. Ridiculous busy. Having said that I am itching to get back to it so I can learn some more. Plus they are just fun peeps to follow and "hear" from on the daily.
@ArtGeekTeaching That sounds awesome! I love painting every day. Also took the Creative Visionary Program with Nicholas Wilton last year and learned a lot. Doing it again this year. Have fun!!!
I have looked at Nicholas's course several times. I will no doubt take it one day. If you liked Nicholas's course look at Pam Caughy's. I think it is the best value online. She is AMAZING and it is much more affordable than most things out there. Great community as well.@@janinafisher101
@ArtGeekTeaching I'm a big Pamela Caughey fan! I found her during Covid and love her work. Her course was not affordable for me until she offered the beta version of a new course for $50 to a small group. I saw it right after she posted it and was able to get in! Very lucky! I learned a lot from her. Her RUclips videos are really helpful. I am signed up for Nick's next CVP which starts mid-March. He has a free pre-CVP Zoom course March 4-8. I have an affiliate link to that free course and will split the affiliate fee with anyone who enrolls in CVP, so if you are interested in doing it this time just let me know. It IS costly for sure, but has been very helpful. Another amazing community!
I was thinking in joining the mastery program, but first I took a workshop one to make more profitable portraits and the other one is named acrylics remastered , but I’m soooooo disappointed. First of all there is a large material list that once they start the workshop , got missing !!! I mean, they start layering and adding stuff and layers but they don’t explain what is what . The whole workshop has no structure at all , and this is a very constructive critique , because most people will do what I did, test the waters first with an affordable sample and see how they teach, so then they will be able to give more security at the time of making a descision of such huge investment for the program. So now I don’t think the program is worth the money , based on the workshops methodology . As a context I am a complete beginner, I have only work with watercolors but I want to expand in to other media . Good luck for those who joined the program
I am so sad to hear you had a negative experience with Milan institute, my experience with very positive. I might suggest that you look at the myriad of free courses to get an idea of how they teach. The mastery course I felt was pretty thorough. The other thing is, I would contact them. I have found them very easy to work with, perhaps they would give you a refund or another course to try. While it is a business and they need to be profitable I really believe that they are called and driven to help other artists. Thank-you for taking time to comment. Godspeed in your artistic journey!
I was pretty much a complete beginner when I started The Mastery Program, and although the program isn't perfect, I really was blown away by the quality of what I was able to produce! I am not a natural artist, but was passionate about art and really wanted to learn how to make good art. This program was perfect for me. I had never heard of Milan Art Institute before. I just went with my gut. I sold several of my works within a few months of starting the program just by posting them on Facebook for me friends to see, and then, encouraged, I did a Facebook auction. There is much to learn from Mastery, and I'm very happy I took the leap! I'm still part-way through 1½ years later, having taken some side adventures, and I'm coming back to focus on it now. A group of us being coached by the same coach (Tanya, who you see in the current season of The Outstanding Artist) got together and have a support group, and that is awesome too.
yeees. I would highly encourage the coaching also. They will find a great match and all of the coaches are bomb. I am a total fan of the Milan's and the work they do.@@janinafisher101
I have the same impression as you after purchasing this masterclass. I felt unsatisfied after watching it. I wondered why they did something the way they did, what the creative process was like in their heads, what exactly was happening on the canvas - I didn't understand everything.
Milan Art! Hi John or Dino! Actually I am not sure who on the team does the FB and other social media from Milan I guess. Thank-you for your question. I have re-visited week 8 a few times. While my work in a timed situation from life still looks kindergarten ish I am moving on AND I did learn a ton which is the whole point. The biggest challenge for me is that I am sooo slow with life drawing. I agree with you though, it is super important and at least now I do like something from life and that is gesture sketchs.
OH !! MY GOODNESS!!! I am stuck in EXACTLY the same place. This was my third try today and I am done. Ellie's process somehow eludes me I can't make it work. Thank you for sharing your story you don't know how much it means to me. I'm sure I'll find a process of doing portraits that works with my brain, I pray. But this one does not work for me. I still LOVE the program and I AM LEARNING A BUNCH, but week 8 (7, the way it's set up now) really shook my confidence as a beginner.
Siftedheart! The most difficult areas are where I learned the most. Typically when I am having a super challenging time...a breakthrough is on the horizon. Thank you commenting!
I’m not in the Milan program but maybe you’re being too hard on yourself. Most artists I know (even the ones with 20+ yrs experience) take some time getting back into the same level of live drawing after taking a break, even it it’s just for the summer. I find that drawing a bunch of faces or figures prior helps live drawing to go more smoothly for me. Your art is lovely!!
Hey Lori! Thank-you for commenting. You are right, loosening up with some generic faces would certainly help get into right brain which would help live drawing immensely. While I do like gesture sketching, short 30s-up to maybe 3 minutes I have never been enamored with live drawing sessions even though I know the benefits/gains are huge.
Thank-you Pat. Milan is a great school with amazing instructors and staff. Top notch peeps. Part of the challenge with any art instruction is doing in long enough with enough intent and purpose to learn the material without becoming a clone of those gifting you their knowledge. Sometimes just takes time to pass through that I think.
Same thing happened with week 8 for me! Just so hard to get through it so I moved on myself. I need to revisit it. I would love to know more about your digital work. I am also a photographer and love digital art
Hi Cathy! Thank-you for taking time to comment. I have not been digital painting for the last several years as I really have been focused on traditional media. I am moving back to incorporating some digital in my workflow in a few months after I finish putting together some other courses I am working on. To me the best world is to begin by creating your reference in PS as you can control layout and design, use PS or painter for your contour then finish with traditional media. Having said that I really do like subtraction. The other thing I have spent a tremendous amount of time doing are non-silver, what I call Heritage Printing". That is gum bichromate, carbon printing, gumoil, platinum palladium with gold etc.
Hi, Thanks for making this video and showing your art. I think your problem is that you think there is a problem. As soon as you notice this, the circle is gone. Hope you make it! Keep on painting.. Martin from Germany
And there’s always that time where we want to find something we enjoy moreBut sometimes we have to enjoy what we enjoy right now and not look for more all the time if you’re looking for more senior must not be happy where you’re at if you’re not having fun doing are you doing the wrong thing I could be wrong it should be fine you should enjoy it and it’s OK to always look for more but we should enjoy what we have
I love the program…. And not sure you are realizing this is what it is about… push your limits. I’m am having a great time with no prior formal schooling. I am currently 4 months in and not taking myself so seriously to not learn …
HI Gail! I love the program as well. I do realize what it is truly about. It really is no different than learning anything, or for that matter my own studio practice. Trying new things is about process, failure and experimentation NOT about results and what it looks like. I am merely saying it was really uncomfortable and I did not enjoy this module. It is likely designed that way. It is good to be challenged, the victory is in moving through the material with purpose taking the gems with you that you can and re-visiting if you feel the need to or want to further skill development in that particular area. Thank-you for taking the time to comment!
Drawing a portrait or figure from life is not a one-week thing. I teach a 3-day life-drawing course (6 hours a day) starting with very basic drawing exercises to engage the right side of the brain and ending on the third day with a simple still-life setup or even drawing your own hand. An optional fourth day can then be dedicated to an introduction to drawing the figure from life. I taught myself drawing portraits from life by mere repetition over many months until I got it right. But you need to stay in practice. Life-drawing is just THE most rewarding art practice! I hope you got over the hitch. I would love to do the Milan Mastery Program, but our exchanger rate to the dollar puts it out of reach. I have been an artist for 35 years but I can see that one could learn a lot from them.
True that. drawing from life takes a ton of practice to really get it dialed in. While I love to draw portraits I never have had much interest in realism. That likely comes from my background as a photographer, if I want something realistic I can create a fantastic images with my camera and digital skillet. For a painting my personal aesthetic is much more loose and abstract so it makes sense that I am not really drawn to drawing the form from life. The life drawing classes I took at our local community college were the same, not at all enjoyable for me. Having said that I still believe it to be super important to be able to render a figure with proper proportions and is well worth the challenge to learn.Milan is an incredible journey with the most incredible people on the planet in my opinion. Well worth the investment. As a life long learner, I always was interested in a traditional atelier style education since I didn't get that in college. Milan provided that.
Hi, I'm Karen, 63 years old ,I'm from NZ and more expensive here, $3780 for the year . Is it worth it? Where was your mentor when you were stuck at week 8? Love to hear your thoughts. Cheers Karen O'Neill
HI Karen! I am also 63. I believe thee course is worth the price. I am self educated specific to studio art for the most part. My formal training was graphic arts, education, business and art history so I didnt have much on the studio side. While I dont think one has to have specific studio education to be successful I think it can shorten the learning curve. The Milan program is awesome, the family are top notch and just amazing people. My mentor walked me through things and what I have found with most things one is trying to learn, when you get stuck is when you are getting ready to break through to the next level. I can't say enough good things about the Milan Art Institute. I am not finished yet and will get back to it when my life and business situation get settled.
Hi Patricia, thank-you for your kind comment. The portrait images I have in the video are mixed media that includes digital. I start with a photograph that I personally shoot. I have a course on DVD that I am in the process of updating as Photoshop, Corel painter and other digital imaging software used for various parts are outdated. It is one of the things I love about traditional media, it doesn't really get "outdated". I found that the traditional media parts aree still the same, the techniques with digital are the same but the software and interface changes so much every couple years that you have to see-do everything instead of just small updates each year.
@@williamroberts1819 Oh I see what you are saying. I would have to respectfully disagree. While some of the work in Hobby Lobby may be similar in style there is a pretty big difference in quality. Hobby Lobby artists follow trends, the Milan family has been painting for decades and it would be safe to say the techniques and style they developed were long before any current trends of drip and grunge came around. Also it is much deeper than that, the program is comprehensive in covering business, marketing as well as a host of different mediums. It gives students a well rounded background as they develop their own voice. Thank-you for commenting.
I agree the name for this RUclips is deceiving, "Truth About the Mastery Program" I was thinking he's dishing out some dirt lol. but hey that got me watching it, I guess it served the purpose.
@nataliebarat1186 Hey Natalie- Thank-you for taking the time to post, I am sorry that you feel deceived. I thought I gave the exact thing that the title says, the truth about them. They are amazing and the program is totally worth the investment for those who are serious about their future as an artist.
Then why are you not doing what you enjoy why are you trying to find something else you don’t need people to tell you which direction to go you need to follow what you enjoy what you like what you love you need to follow you and not try to develop something other people think you should Do what you do how do how do you enjoy
??? Not sure what you mean. I am doing exactly what I want to be doing and have done what I want pretty much most of my life. I don't need anyone to teell me what I should be doing, and likewise really never have. Having said that, I am a life-long learner. There is tremendous value in doing things that are difficult for you and things you would never otherwise do unless part of a course or something. That is what the Milan Mastery course. It aligns with my goals perfectly but that doesnt mean there are things in the course I dont want to do. If one picks and chooses what you do in a course like this, you miss opportunities for growth and quite frankly exoeriences.
I joined the MAI because I wanted to take my art to the next 100 levels. I’ve learned that there are so many techniques out there that I’ve never tried. Plus, there are exercises in Part 2 that will help you find your voice. It’s not just about painting what you want or how you want. It’s showing you all these techniques that can take your skills to new levels and outside the box.
Thank-you for your comments. One of the many great things about art and creators is that everyone has their own aesthetic and there are creators out there making things to satisfy each one of them. While I appreciate the time it takes to develop the talent to paint hyper realistic images it is not for me. As a artist with a photographic background I have the capability to create photorealistic imagery with those skills better than anything I could ever paint. So, for me my paintings need to look like a painting and not photo-realistic.
Thank-you. I think anyone can create whatever they want. It just takes time and persistence. Deciding WHAT you want to create, that is the hitch. To many choices. I don't really care about the outcome as much because I know if one spends enough time in a process you will get what you are looking for. That means, I really have to enjoy the process and that is more what I look for. Something I really enjoy doing. Thank-you for taking time to comment!
Hi Ana, thank-you for taking the time to post. I think the background music is not the problem as much as the sound quality of the vocal audio. These videos are a bit older and I was still trying to figure out how to capture decent audio. Not there yet but getting closer.
@@ArtGeekTeachingI find it very hard to separate music from speech. Many neuro divergent people would have the same issue. For me if music is playing it has priority over anything else I hear. Turning up your own volume would turn up the work needed to cope with two stimuli at once. Please consider doing these without background music. Thanks.
@@itsjudystube Our sound quality has improved for sure. We are going to continue some testing specific to sound and will be recording more videos with no background music at all while I am talking. Thank-you for taking time to comment.
Any other peeps in the Milan Art Mastery Program have a challenge with week 8? I have moved on and will revisit it down the road. Even though I didnt finish all of the assignments to my satisfaction I still learned a ton.
I am in the program too. The point isn’t to get stuck and stay there. Do your best to finish the assignments. Did you learn something? Take notes and keep a journal. I decided to not get hung up on my drawing skills. I have improved tremendously and that was my goal. As I work through the program, my drawing skills are continually improving. Don’t let the left brain keep you from moving on.
Hey Darla, ya mon. Good advice there. I moved on, I was stuck for a bit no getting around it. One has to also have a change of attitude as you for sure will run into things that 1-you don't like, 2-you suck at. NO BIG DEAL. That is exactly why I took the course to start with is to get a little bit better at the skills that I lack, but more importantly to get a whole lot better at the things I love and am passionate about and even find some new things. The program does all of that. @@darladonley3175
@@ArtGeekTeaching There are several oil painting techniques that I didn’t care for but did the assignment. I’m working on my final painting for Part 1. I’ve been a professional artist for five years. I’ve learned so many things. This program has been life changing for me. I’m excited to get to mixed media.
Have you watched any episodes of the Outstanding Artist on RUclips? These contestants are so inspiring and their on the spot creativity is so amazing. 😊
@@darladonley3175 yup. I have watched most of them, dropped off about 6 months ago when I couldnt keep up with things again. I think everyone should be a member even if they don't take the course.
Yup! I passed on it - the height of Covid, I live alone in the boonies, and wasn't interested in portraits. The rest has been great so far.
Your art is so awesome! I'm blown away by it. The style is very unique and makes them stand out from other portrait art I've seen. I plan on signing up for the Mastery program in Jan 2022.
Hi Lisa! Thank-you for taking the time to write and for your generous comments regarding my work. Do sign up for Milan! It is absolutely amazing. I am now in the extended "break" that I knew would come when school started. In roughly another month or so I will be able to get back to classes and also to making some videos. You will love Milan! I will give you a link to use. They used to give you a free class for using an affiliate link but I am not sure they do that. I will still have a course or something for those using my affiliate link though. Hit me up if I can help you with anything.
I totally skipped Week 8 too. It was the height of Covid, and I wasn't going anywhere, had no interest in portraits, and have even forgotten I skipped it until I saw this. 😊 I got stuck after the mixed media section - being unable to find my "voice" or create compositions I like. I've been on a side tangent trying out abstracts for quite a while, and just about to revisit Mastery. I have gotten a lot of value out of the program and am very happy I signed up for it 1½ years ago. I was pretty new to art, and what I have created has amazed me! And that people are buying my art has been even more amazing!
I have been creating like crazy, getting courses ready to launch and trying to finish a book. Ridiculous busy. Having said that I am itching to get back to it so I can learn some more. Plus they are just fun peeps to follow and "hear" from on the daily.
@ArtGeekTeaching That sounds awesome! I love painting every day. Also took the Creative Visionary Program with Nicholas Wilton last year and learned a lot. Doing it again this year. Have fun!!!
I have looked at Nicholas's course several times. I will no doubt take it one day. If you liked Nicholas's course look at Pam Caughy's. I think it is the best value online. She is AMAZING and it is much more affordable than most things out there. Great community as well.@@janinafisher101
@ArtGeekTeaching I'm a big Pamela Caughey fan! I found her during Covid and love her work. Her course was not affordable for me until she offered the beta version of a new course for $50 to a small group. I saw it right after she posted it and was able to get in! Very lucky! I learned a lot from her. Her RUclips videos are really helpful. I am signed up for Nick's next CVP which starts mid-March. He has a free pre-CVP Zoom course March 4-8. I have an affiliate link to that free course and will split the affiliate fee with anyone who enrolls in CVP, so if you are interested in doing it this time just let me know. It IS costly for sure, but has been very helpful. Another amazing community!
@@janinafisher101 Pls shoot me a DM at either FB or YT. I will get the info, I know I will do the free CVP.
I was thinking in joining the mastery program, but first I took a workshop one to make more profitable portraits and the other one is named acrylics remastered , but I’m soooooo disappointed. First of all there is a large material list that once they start the workshop , got missing !!! I mean, they start layering and adding stuff and layers but they don’t explain what is what . The whole workshop has no structure at all , and this is a very constructive critique , because most people will do what I did, test the waters first with an affordable sample and see how they teach, so then they will be able to give more security at the time of making a descision of such huge investment for the program. So now I don’t think the program is worth the money , based on the workshops methodology . As a context I am a complete beginner, I have only work with watercolors but I want to expand in to other media . Good luck for those who joined the program
I am so sad to hear you had a negative experience with Milan institute, my experience with very positive. I might suggest that you look at the myriad of free courses to get an idea of how they teach. The mastery course I felt was pretty thorough. The other thing is, I would contact them. I have found them very easy to work with, perhaps they would give you a refund or another course to try. While it is a business and they need to be profitable I really believe that they are called and driven to help other artists. Thank-you for taking time to comment. Godspeed in your artistic journey!
I was pretty much a complete beginner when I started The Mastery Program, and although the program isn't perfect, I really was blown away by the quality of what I was able to produce! I am not a natural artist, but was passionate about art and really wanted to learn how to make good art. This program was perfect for me. I had never heard of Milan Art Institute before. I just went with my gut. I sold several of my works within a few months of starting the program just by posting them on Facebook for me friends to see, and then, encouraged, I did a Facebook auction. There is much to learn from Mastery, and I'm very happy I took the leap! I'm still part-way through 1½ years later, having taken some side adventures, and I'm coming back to focus on it now. A group of us being coached by the same coach (Tanya, who you see in the current season of The Outstanding Artist) got together and have a support group, and that is awesome too.
yeees. I would highly encourage the coaching also. They will find a great match and all of the coaches are bomb. I am a total fan of the Milan's and the work they do.@@janinafisher101
I have the same impression as you after purchasing this masterclass. I felt unsatisfied after watching it. I wondered why they did something the way they did, what the creative process was like in their heads, what exactly was happening on the canvas - I didn't understand everything.
Did you ever revisit week 8?? It definitely is a tough week, but such an important challenge.
Milan Art! Hi John or Dino! Actually I am not sure who on the team does the FB and other social media from Milan I guess. Thank-you for your question. I have re-visited week 8 a few times. While my work in a timed situation from life still looks kindergarten ish I am moving on AND I did learn a ton which is the whole point. The biggest challenge for me is that I am sooo slow with life drawing. I agree with you though, it is super important and at least now I do like something from life and that is gesture sketchs.
I have joined the waiting list but was removed from the list, I don't know why. I thought this is an opportunity for me to discover my voice 😢
You are doing awesome. We punch ourselves the worst
Hey Michael, thank-you. I appreciate you taking time to comment.
OH !! MY GOODNESS!!! I am stuck in EXACTLY the same place. This was my third try today and I am done. Ellie's process somehow eludes me I can't make it work. Thank you for sharing your story you don't know how much it means to me. I'm sure I'll find a process of doing portraits that works with my brain, I pray. But this one does not work for me. I still LOVE the program and I AM LEARNING A BUNCH, but week 8 (7, the way it's set up now) really shook my confidence as a beginner.
Siftedheart! The most difficult areas are where I learned the most. Typically when I am having a super challenging time...a breakthrough is on the horizon. Thank you commenting!
The best ever!!! I loved it!
True that, the people and the program are top notch.
I love it “Really really uncomfortable “ yes but it’s so freeing ❤
There is certainly growth in doing the uncomfortable and hard things. Thank you for commenting!
I’m not in the Milan program but maybe you’re being too hard on yourself. Most artists I know (even the ones with 20+ yrs experience) take some time getting back into the same level of live drawing after taking a break, even it it’s just for the summer. I find that drawing a bunch of faces or figures prior helps live drawing to go more smoothly for me. Your art is lovely!!
Hey Lori! Thank-you for commenting. You are right, loosening up with some generic faces would certainly help get into right brain which would help live drawing immensely. While I do like gesture sketching, short 30s-up to maybe 3 minutes I have never been enamored with live drawing sessions even though I know the benefits/gains are huge.
Just do it as best you can and move on. They are not all going to turn out perfect but your work is beautiful. Keep going.
SuperSavvyTravelers, thank you for commenting!
I love your art it’s beautiful Stunning!❤️
Hi Vanessa! Thank you so much for your kind comment.
Your paintings are amazing!!!
Deldelly, thank you for your kind words and for taking the time to comment.
I mean. Wow. Those paintings are amazing!
Thank-you!
Lovely work, completely different level to the majority of the milan stuff/ dross I’ve come across on RUclips
Thank-you Pat. Milan is a great school with amazing instructors and staff. Top notch peeps. Part of the challenge with any art instruction is doing in long enough with enough intent and purpose to learn the material without becoming a clone of those gifting you their knowledge. Sometimes just takes time to pass through that I think.
Same thing happened with week 8 for me! Just so hard to get through it so I moved on myself. I need to revisit it. I would love to know more about your digital work. I am also a photographer and love digital art
Hi Cathy! Thank-you for taking time to comment. I have not been digital painting for the last several years as I really have been focused on traditional media. I am moving back to incorporating some digital in my workflow in a few months after I finish putting together some other courses I am working on. To me the best world is to begin by creating your reference in PS as you can control layout and design, use PS or painter for your contour then finish with traditional media. Having said that I really do like subtraction. The other thing I have spent a tremendous amount of time doing are non-silver, what I call Heritage Printing". That is gum bichromate, carbon printing, gumoil, platinum palladium with gold etc.
Hi,
Thanks for making this video and showing your art.
I think your problem is that you think there is a problem.
As soon as you notice this, the circle is gone.
Hope you make it!
Keep on painting..
Martin from Germany
Hi smARTin2! Thank-you for taking time to comment.
Very helpful video thank you. I am on week three and loving it so far. ❤
Hi Gabrielle! I am glad this was helpful. Have a great time with the Milan crew! Top notch amazing people and art instruction.
And there’s always that time where we want to find something we enjoy moreBut sometimes we have to enjoy what we enjoy right now and not look for more all the time if you’re looking for more senior must not be happy where you’re at if you’re not having fun doing are you doing the wrong thing I could be wrong it should be fine you should enjoy it and it’s OK to always look for more but we should enjoy what we have
I love the program…. And not sure you are realizing this is what it is about… push your limits. I’m am having a great time with no prior formal schooling. I am currently 4 months in and not taking myself so seriously to not learn …
HI Gail! I love the program as well. I do realize what it is truly about. It really is no different than learning anything, or for that matter my own studio practice. Trying new things is about process, failure and experimentation NOT about results and what it looks like. I am merely saying it was really uncomfortable and I did not enjoy this module. It is likely designed that way. It is good to be challenged, the victory is in moving through the material with purpose taking the gems with you that you can and re-visiting if you feel the need to or want to further skill development in that particular area. Thank-you for taking the time to comment!
Drawing a portrait or figure from life is not a one-week thing. I teach a 3-day life-drawing course (6 hours a day) starting with very basic drawing exercises to engage the right side of the brain and ending on the third day with a simple still-life setup or even drawing your own hand. An optional fourth day can then be dedicated to an introduction to drawing the figure from life. I taught myself drawing portraits from life by mere repetition over many months until I got it right. But you need to stay in practice. Life-drawing is just THE most rewarding art practice! I hope you got over the hitch. I would love to do the Milan Mastery Program, but our exchanger rate to the dollar puts it out of reach. I have been an artist for 35 years but I can see that one could learn a lot from them.
True that. drawing from life takes a ton of practice to really get it dialed in. While I love to draw portraits I never have had much interest in realism. That likely comes from my background as a photographer, if I want something realistic I can create a fantastic images with my camera and digital skillet. For a painting my personal aesthetic is much more loose and abstract so it makes sense that I am not really drawn to drawing the form from life. The life drawing classes I took at our local community college were the same, not at all enjoyable for me. Having said that I still believe it to be super important to be able to render a figure with proper proportions and is well worth the challenge to learn.Milan is an incredible journey with the most incredible people on the planet in my opinion. Well worth the investment. As a life long learner, I always was interested in a traditional atelier style education since I didn't get that in college. Milan provided that.
Hi, I'm Karen, 63 years old ,I'm from NZ and more expensive here, $3780 for the year . Is it worth it? Where was your mentor when you were stuck at week 8?
Love to hear your thoughts.
Cheers Karen O'Neill
HI Karen! I am also 63. I believe thee course is worth the price. I am self educated specific to studio art for the most part. My formal training was graphic arts, education, business and art history so I didnt have much on the studio side. While I dont think one has to have specific studio education to be successful I think it can shorten the learning curve. The Milan program is awesome, the family are top notch and just amazing people. My mentor walked me through things and what I have found with most things one is trying to learn, when you get stuck is when you are getting ready to break through to the next level. I can't say enough good things about the Milan Art Institute. I am not finished yet and will get back to it when my life and business situation get settled.
Thank you for posting this vlog!!! I have been thinking about taking the Art Mastery Program. So I definitely appreciate your insight.
Glad it was helpful!
Gorgeous portraits, you should teach it.
Hi Patricia, thank-you for your kind comment. The portrait images I have in the video are mixed media that includes digital. I start with a photograph that I personally shoot. I have a course on DVD that I am in the process of updating as Photoshop, Corel painter and other digital imaging software used for various parts are outdated. It is one of the things I love about traditional media, it doesn't really get "outdated". I found that the traditional media parts aree still the same, the techniques with digital are the same but the software and interface changes so much every couple years that you have to see-do everything instead of just small updates each year.
Im pretty sure they are the people making all the girls/flowers/horses plus paint splatter art at hobby lobby.
Not sure I follow.
@@ArtGeekTeaching Their videos of their students show the same thing found in hobby lobby. Just paint a girl and a flower and drip paint.
@@williamroberts1819 Oh I see what you are saying. I would have to respectfully disagree. While some of the work in Hobby Lobby may be similar in style there is a pretty big difference in quality. Hobby Lobby artists follow trends, the Milan family has been painting for decades and it would be safe to say the techniques and style they developed were long before any current trends of drip and grunge came around. Also it is much deeper than that, the program is comprehensive in covering business, marketing as well as a host of different mediums. It gives students a well rounded background as they develop their own voice. Thank-you for commenting.
I’m not sure what “truth” about the Milan art program you’re trying to convey here. 🤔
Hi Mojo, the truth that the Milan program is amazing and will challenge you. You will learn.
I agree the name for this RUclips is deceiving, "Truth About the Mastery Program" I was thinking he's dishing out some dirt lol. but hey that got me watching it, I guess it served the purpose.
@nataliebarat1186 Hey Natalie- Thank-you for taking the time to post, I am sorry that you feel deceived. I thought I gave the exact thing that the title says, the truth about them. They are amazing and the program is totally worth the investment for those who are serious about their future as an artist.
@@nataliebarat1186 That was my thoughts exactly....
Then why are you not doing what you enjoy why are you trying to find something else you don’t need people to tell you which direction to go you need to follow what you enjoy what you like what you love you need to follow you and not try to develop something other people think you should Do what you do how do how do you enjoy
??? Not sure what you mean. I am doing exactly what I want to be doing and have done what I want pretty much most of my life. I don't need anyone to teell me what I should be doing, and likewise really never have. Having said that, I am a life-long learner. There is tremendous value in doing things that are difficult for you and things you would never otherwise do unless part of a course or something. That is what the Milan Mastery course. It aligns with my goals perfectly but that doesnt mean there are things in the course I dont want to do. If one picks and chooses what you do in a course like this, you miss opportunities for growth and quite frankly exoeriences.
I joined the MAI because I wanted to take my art to the next 100 levels. I’ve learned that there are so many techniques out there that I’ve never tried. Plus, there are exercises in Part 2 that will help you find your voice. It’s not just about painting what you want or how you want. It’s showing you all these techniques that can take your skills to new levels and outside the box.
I don’t like abstract, and it seems that all I see. Nothing I would put in my house
Thank-you for your comments. One of the many great things about art and creators is that everyone has their own aesthetic and there are creators out there making things to satisfy each one of them. While I appreciate the time it takes to develop the talent to paint hyper realistic images it is not for me. As a artist with a photographic background I have the capability to create photorealistic imagery with those skills better than anything I could ever paint. So, for me my paintings need to look like a painting and not photo-realistic.
You already reached mastery,.,...you are free to create what-ever you want,.
Thank-you. I think anyone can create whatever they want. It just takes time and persistence. Deciding WHAT you want to create, that is the hitch. To many choices. I don't really care about the outcome as much because I know if one spends enough time in a process you will get what you are looking for. That means, I really have to enjoy the process and that is more what I look for. Something I really enjoy doing. Thank-you for taking time to comment!
I think, the background music is complete unnecessary!!
Hi Ana, thank-you for taking the time to post. I think the background music is not the problem as much as the sound quality of the vocal audio. These videos are a bit older and I was still trying to figure out how to capture decent audio. Not there yet but getting closer.
@@ArtGeekTeachingI find it very hard to separate music from speech. Many neuro divergent people would have the same issue. For me if music is playing it has priority over anything else I hear. Turning up your own volume would turn up the work needed to cope with two stimuli at once.
Please consider doing these without background music. Thanks.
@@itsjudystube Our sound quality has improved for sure. We are going to continue some testing specific to sound and will be recording more videos with no background music at all while I am talking. Thank-you for taking time to comment.
@@ArtGeekTeaching thank you. Otherwise I put subtitles on and sound off but that isn’t the same 🥰
Your microphone is not working, just hear your distant voice into your ?phone camera, I do want to hear you clearly
Old mic and an open room gives very poor sound quality. I am sorry you cant hear it well.