I'm always going to have a fondness for Saberforge. Other companies have lost me completely, but they keep growing with the market, making good decisions, improving... these are the key to customer loyalty.
I've only ever bought from saberforge, but there's a good reason. Their prices and supply are just better than any other competitor I look at. Plus, their customer support seems really good
@@TraceguyRune I'm planning to get some RGB lightsabers to duel with my lil bro, and so far Saber Forge are the only ones that convince me. They have these two sabers we really like at a decent price.
I’ve been following saberforge since 2015, got a saber from them in 2016, 2017, 2019, and 2020, with a few repairs and upgrades along the way of course. They are currently the best saber company. Back in 2016 though they definitely weren’t, but they have and continue to make improvements. Their customer service has improved, better electronics, more saber models, more saber classes that are more affordable. Most repairs I’ve needed on sabers were mostly due to user error (except for like 2), and I am happy with their work and expect to buy more from them in the future
That’s another advantage of living in the unincorporated community of Aloha, Oregon and Saber Forge having their show room in their headquarters in Oregon City. I can try out some of their Lightsabers that they have, even Lightsabers that they don’t have online, from their huge collection of Lightsabers available for immediate sale. So I can buy a Lightsaber that I can try before I buy
I know the owner of saberforge very well he used to work at pg and e with my grandpa and 12 years ago he made a prototype of my saber and it recently got scuffed up so i sent it to him and he fixed it up for me and it has all this new stuff in it that confuses me lol
I don't own any SF's but I have been following them since 2017 and have seen everything you mentioned. Even looking at the current versions of what you show in this video, it's incredible. The prodigal son now has movie accurate chrome finishing on the appropriate parts rather than just aluminum.
Was going to buy the Eco Fallen Order but i love The Prodical Son MK2, Golden Rapier LGT Insurgent but the Graflex LGT is certainly on my radar. The amount of Saber chassis/hilt designs and features across the Eco to LGT are premium at first i was baffled by the prices but when considering what actually goes into making these replica Sabers with the detail, weight and feel in your hand. The quality, sheer accuracy being astonishing, the overall finish on them is immaculate the features Eco gives you at the price and the LGT Features are more than fair. The options with customisation are great to see i prefer the premade stuff as they do everything i want but the added feature is more than welcome. I'm going to track down The LGT Graflex an iconic saber for an OT lover like myself and in preparation for my Finn Cosplay. The leather accessories and Beskar, Credits from both Imperial and Republic eras are great and exclusive bonuses from what i can tell.
Thanks for the great video! I have ordered myself a Saberforge DIY saber kit from their Etsy store and it was shipped to Germany within TWO weeks! And I love it!
Very well said on everything that you've mentioned in the review. I've had no issues with Saberforge when it comes to their empties and ASP line since I install my own hilts with CFX/Proffie. Beautiful hilts and unique.
Thank you. I do my own installs too and forgot to mention that I installed my vanquish and count with neopixel CFX. The exalted has a CFX in it too installed by someone else. Empty hilt lead times are much better than installed. Although ASP lead times aren't great which is odd.
1st, glad to have you making videos again. 😀 2nd, as a result of your video, I may just give Saberforge another try. They do have a few sabers I'd like to have. Thanks again.
Yea over the last 4-5 years this company has just become phenomenal. CS has improved significantly thankfully and i think general construction/shipping times have reduced pretty significantly as well. Just received an Avenger mk2 saber with veteran electronics and I'm just in love with this thing. I went through like 20 plastic versions of this exact saber model as a child XD. Smooth swing is by far the greatest realism enhancement they've made. I have another saber i bought from them like mid 2020 with veteran electronics and it didnt have smooth swing back then, which makes it sound really clunky and just takes away from the realism. But smooth swing... you should have heard me giggle the first time i swung this thing XD i felt like a little kid on christmas morning.
The veteran upgrade was a great move on their part. My first sabers were the plastic ones that were cheap and not realistic at all to today's standards, but it's all there was and I liked it. Now it's all on a level I couldn't fathom as a child. These sabers are incredible.
Looking forward to the DIY Golden Harvest video! Thanks for the video. I had gathered saberforge was a no go, but I'm thinking it may be a place I could get the parts to build my own.
I am so thankful for this post. I've been waiting for a solid review like this. Thanks Buddy!!! This week I just ordered the Mk3 Prodigal Son with Crystal Chamber, Hero Electronics, and Neo pix blade....I'm so freaking excited lol
That will be a good gift for Valentine’s Day if it gets to you by then!!!😂 I’m going on four months waiting for my Count MK2!!!! It’s my first saber too!
@@GrayPaladin I really did!! Dream come true for me, I mean really. I will be sure to send you guys photos and a short video of it when octet it. I haven’t seen many with a new MK3 with the news crystal chamber. My face is like yours when you unboxed your Electrum hahaha I was cracking up because I can’t wait to feel that lol
@@kenadams1308 AWESOME! Please make sure you come back to this post and tell us all about it! I can’t wait to see reviews from people I’m speaking to directly 😎😎😎
Thanks for this video. I haven't received any sabers from SF yet but I do have two on order (one of them well passed the lead time). This is making me more confident in my purchase. Hope I get them soon. Great job and very informative! MTFBWY
My Saberforge experience had been positive overall besides a long wait time on completed sabers. However buying an empty hilt with a plug & play kit has arrived in a timely manner. As for combat i've beat the living snot out of my saberforge golden harvest v3 champion tiers with no issues 🤙
so their blades are very durable for combat? i have a few ultrasaber hilts but im looking for better hilts but the only thing keeping me from saberforge is the combat factor
Nervous... I'm not the wealthiest guy, but I've always dreamt of having a Hero Pixel saber. I heard about the questionable business practices supposedly from Ultrasabers, so I started researching Saberforge. Gotta say, your video sold me on them! It was incredibly informative and helpful to see such a well-organized video on the subject, and I think I'm gonna go with SaberForge as my first choice when I get the money. Thank you, definitely subscribing!
I'm glad the video helped. If it were 3 year ago I would have recommended your first purchase be somewhere else, but in the last two years saberforge has made positive steps to improve the company and make the quality more trustworthy. When the time comes I hope you are very happy with your first lightsaber.
In my personal experience with neopixel sabers, they aren’t worth it (for me at least). On camera they seem much brighter than normal sabers with leds in the hilt, but in person there’s barely a difference. Plus with a pixel you can’t bang blades with others because the lights are in the blade. But if you aren’t planning on using it as a sparring saber, and you want that little tiny bit of extra brightness, then go for it. That’s just my 2 cents.
I ordered a champion tier from Saberforge back in July. Then I ordered a Neopixel from Sabertrio in August. I have my Sabertrio lightsaber. Got it 5 1/2 weeks after ordering. Still waiting on that Saberforge…..
Took me 4 months for my Count Mk2 to ship. It's the name of the game there. Sabertrio can ship sooner before they close their store and only take limited orders to that they can fulfill them. You may get your saber sooner, but it sucks that no one else can order of one. It's almost the same wait time if you miss their one day opening.
Awesome video. After watching this i am beyond confident in the decision i made especially with the golden harvest pixel option. Im just worried about the lead time hahah. Ehh worth it
Well said mate I totally agree with you. Recently their quality has massively improved and I just love to see those restock/new hilt emails! Much, much more common than a few years ago. When I first ordered from them 3 years ago their custom service was not good at all but recently it been really good (to me) Ghv3 is a great board only thing I wish was that they used a bigger switch but that is completely personal preference. Loving the new website that they updated to a few weeks ago. I think the powder coating price drop was a smart move and the fact that it adds no extra lead time is great. I also like how in recent times they have started doing more diy friendly routes such as their diy kits on Etsy or the scratch and dent parts. I always will love saberforge LED colours. There is just something about them. However that quad cree annihilates your battery! Electronic have massively improved. But come on just remove veteran from the website! (Sorry for the rant 😂) still need myself a bane
Saberforge is one company where the pandemic did them some good. They cleaned house, revamped and rebranded themselves. I like all the changes they made. A lot in a short time. I think they saved their reputation. When one hears the name Saberforge now they don't immediately think "beware". I don't mind the veteran tier if they drop the price... massively. Otherwise it's, like obsidian, a dinosaur. Golden Harvest is solid enough for the company to stand alone on. The 12mm switch I like and make sense for their hilts since they are generally smaller diameter than most other companies on the market, but I get how that's a preference. I wish they used better quality speakers. If they're going to up the board and electronics, why not go with a better speaker to match? The Etsy store was a great move on their part. The concept alone of a diy kit is just brilliant. Perfect for a newbie who has no idea what to do or where to get started. The Custom Saber Shop, though great, is not exactly newbie friendly. If Saberforge keeps improving I'll keep buying.
I had my Eco Saber core die on me after a year. I didn’t send it back because they said it was going to be about 4-5 months just for a repair. I just keep it around as a “Shelf Queen” as the hilt itself is quite nice. I had much better results from KR Sabers and doing the internals myself. Maybe I’d try another Eco, I like their hilt size my hands are a bit smaller and they fit and feel better to me.
I got Eco and Aprentice sabers from saberforge. The Golden Harvest (HeroPixel) board on paper is better than the Xenopixel, but the user experiance with Xenopixel is a lot better. Plus, the Eco sabers take 2 weeks to ship, while the other takes 15 weeks
Gray Paladin, what can I say, I really, really enjoyed this video. Where to start? Well I currently own two sabers, both by Saberforge. My first saber, the Exiled (mk1) was purchased back in 2015 while my second, the Cleric was purchased in April of this year (2021). Both are Champion Tier sabers with the current Golden Harvest 3.33 soundboard. When I first purchased my Exiled I didn't have the options we have now. So when I purchased the Cleric I opted to send my Exiled in for a much needed update. The update awarded me the new Golden Harvest 3.33 and the slew of sound fonts that comes with it. I also opted to change my saber color from blue to yellow. I did, however, lose the kill key which, I actually liked as it gave the saber a bit more personality. It was like an extra little greebly. But the auto shut down is a lovely feature. I'm a huge fan of the mk 1 Exalted and in some ways prefer it over the current Mk2. I just prefer the solid emitter to that of the new one with the holes. However I really dig their new screw on saber blade design. I toyed around with the idea of getting the new Exile with neo pixel but I'd rather put that money toward a third saber. I've contemplated Electrum Sabercrafts' Evo-Flex as my third saber but I'm not sure. Upon watching this video I always viewed Saberforge's Apprentice line as an inferior line of sabers in spite of me preferring that tier's designs. Now that I see we can get all the same goodies built in, I'm really contemplating the Arbiter. It's such a cool looking saber. I'm quite sure if I go that route, I'll get the Arbiter Shoto at some point to go with it. I've went on for some time but let me close with this... you hit the nail on the head regarding Saberforge's customer service. It's MUCH better than before as it doesn't take nearly a month for a reply. It still takes a while, about 3 to 5 days. And a word from the wise, any question you may have, ask it all at one time because if you leave anything out and reach out to customer service again, expect another 3 to 5 days for your new question to be answered. In 2015 the customer service was horrid. I mean a reply was akin to winning the lottery. Always nice, just long wait times. So yeah that's the downside to Saberforge. Be it simple correspondence or the super long saber lead times, the saber process takes quite some time.
Thanks for sharing and I'm glad you liked the video. For you having made a purchase several years ago, it must seem like a new or different company. They've come s long way and I hope they continue to improve and focus on customer satisfaction.
@@GrayPaladin Quite right. It was a much better experience. The only issue I had during my latest transaction was I had to reach out to Saberforge before they shipped my sabers. Weeks past the max lead time, I reached out for an update regarding my sabers and, miraculously, received a shipping notice a couple days later. No explanation, just a shipping notification. But the sabers arrived in prime condition and work amazingly. I do have a question; how would you rate Saberforge's Apprentice Sabers? Your video convinced me to give them a look but I just wanted to confirm the quality of that tier. I looked into it and the weight seems comparable to that of the elite tier so I'm guessing they are quality sabers. I'm telling you, that Arbiter is stunning. I really have my eye on that one. Though I am very interested in Electrum Sabercraft's Evo-Flex as well. Oh one last thing -- thank you!!! Man I've learned so much about custom sabers after watching two of your videos in all the years I've been dabbling in this hobby we call saber collecting. Thank you!
@@genefactor007 I only have one apprentice and it's an older discontinued model. I think they are good. I was going to order the prodigy at some point and I really like the sentinel. For the price, they seem well worth it. I'm glad the videos were helpful. I have lots on my channel and several playlists to narrow down what you may be looking for. I also dabble in installs too. I did a couple series on installing a saber from empty. Also, for me, I stay away from Electrum Sabercrafts. They have nice hilts, evo-flex among my favorites, but I don't like their Diatium 3 sound board. It's highly flawed in my opinion.
I have a love hate with them. They’re really good, however I’ve been waiting on ASP parts to be back in full for 5+ months now after telling me 3 times they’re on the way
My experience with Saberforge has been a mixed bag; I love a lot of their hilt designs, and Golden Harvest v3 is fantastic, but out of the three hilts I've bought directly from the company, I've had to send two back for repairs not long after receiving them - one had a faulty recharge port and the other has issues with the speaker. The customer service is friendly enough, I will say, even if the wait for a reply is a bit long. And the lead times...oof. Still, the hilts are awesome - I'm probably going to order the hilts empty and do the installs myself, once I study up on the best methods, of course.
Everyone's experience is different; some better than others. I had similar issues with Sabertrio and had to send the same new saber back twice for repair, but I still stand by that company. Golden Harvest is tops for sure and Saberforge has definitely won in the category of hilt options and design.
@@GrayPaladin I definitely agree with you when it comes to the "behind the curtain" stuff with the owner - I don't pay any attention to that, I just worry about how I'm treated as a customer. And yeah, I do plan on ordering from them again at some point.
I live in the unincorporated community of Aloha, Oregon. I have a job so I can earn spending money. Saber Forge has a show room at their headquarters in Oregon City. I plan to go there to buy a Lightsaber. Saber Forge has a huge selection of pre built Lightsabers available for immediate sale. I have an advantage of being able to try out different Lightsabers before making a purchase. There’s also an advantage to see the Lightsabers in person, which is a lot better than seeing them online. I don’t have to worry about ordering a Lightsaber online, when I can go directly to the source, actually see Lightsabers in person, try them out, and buy one. A major advantage of living in Oregon, is that Saber Forge has a show room in their headquarters in my home state and it’s in driving distance
Great review. As we discussed in another thread, there hilts are great. But the blades are super brittle in the thin neck sabers. There claim that the elite sabers are built for full contact is definitely not true. At least for the Redeemer MK3 that I have. So as a heads up to anyone looking at these. Great saber as a display piece. But I broke mine off at the hilt dueling my 11 year old daughter. She was using a Disney Savi’s workshop blade. Mine is a Gen1 screw in 37” blade. Hopefully the Gen2 screw in blades are bit better. And 37” may be to long for a thin neck hilt.
I got a redeemer mk3 in a mystery box and you're right. Total shelf queen because that hilt is not practical for use. I sold that hilt shortly after my review. ruclips.net/video/SyPOS-6KF8s/видео.html
@@GrayPaladin I got the Cleric Wrapped one, hero tier, weathered. I wish I ordered it earlier so it would get here in time for Xmas but oh well. Still excited.
Your shop reviews are super helpful - many thanks 🙏 I’m still shopping around, and must say I am impressed with Saberforge’s customization options hilt-wise. I am seeing comments regarding blades breaking off however. So I’m wondering if perhaps just getting a hilt from Saberforge, and getting a blade from somewhere else - might yield the most solid result. I’m mainly looking to do heavy dueling with it - most likely in The Saber Legion, which requires a 1” OD blade with 3mm (or 1/8”) wall thickness. That’s a pretty heavy blade, and the blade connection to the hilt needs to be solid. Are you familiar with the LamaDiLuce Polaris, which has a seating depth of 2” for their 1” blades (which I’m guessing was a deliberate effort to keep the blade in during heavy blows)? I wasn’t able to find out how thick their blade walls are though. Another option would be to purchase the blade tubes closer to the tube manufacturer, and save money there, especially if I need that 3mm thickness. I found one on amazon for half the cost but the only issue is that it’s clear and not diffused white. Yes I could DYI it with cellophane but then the tip would look different than the body, which wouldn’t look good. So I’m still looking, as I’m not seeing any shop offering the type of hilt AND blade customization that would get me to a saber I like and can use in TSL tournaments. Any suggestions? And do you know where we can find a transwhite 1” OD with 3mm or 1/8” wall thickness blade or tube?
The saberforge blades are actually all thick wall heavy dueling blades. The weight is quite heavy too. Saberforge blades are very durable and tough. The issue in the past was their thin neck sabers didn't have a deep blade depth and so the blades weren't seated enough in the hilt. Their next big issue was the thread in blade. The LED Module was making the polycarbonate brittle and it was breaking off. Saberforge said they fixed the issue by redesigning the blade and giving free replacements to customers who had the old version. My preferred blade is Sabertrio's midgrade. That trans white gives the best brightness and glow in my opinion. They offer a heavy grade blade too, but I haven't used it before.
I got my Bane Mk.2 copper/black First Harvest. It is sweet but the volume is pretty low even when i turn it to as high as i can tell. I got it before the 4th week though so their times seemed to have gotten better. The machine quality looks great.
Their speakers aren't very good and if the pommel design is thick it really subdues the volume of the saber. I had the same problem with my vanquish. I ended up replacing the speaker and it's much better now. Bane is a sweet design. Copper is a cool color. I bet your saber is real nice.
can anyone speak to how well ordering resold sabers is from saberforge? ive heard lots of negative things about sf but i recently ordered an lgt revenge saber from them. I hope since its not sf brand it will be ok
Generally LGT reseller sabers are all the same. They come from China. Sometimes they are drop shipped and ship directly from China when ordered and never touch the hands of the reseller. From my experience LGT is a crap shoot. Sometimes they are great and sometimes you get a dud. No way to tell, but duds are always replaced. You're safe ordering an LGT or TXQ from Saberforge.
I have The Count Mk2 fully installed with golden Harvest and neopixel. It's a nice saber. Only setback is the small 24mm speaker that's not at all loud.
@@GrayPaladin thats ok with me i only have el cheepo sabers the disney black series and sometimes i wishbi voukd turn the volume off , they irritate me sometimes in certain situations.
Here I am again. Researching my next purchase. I'm looking at an elite saber (or two) next, but my question is about the electronics tiers. I'm very happy with a Veteran RGB in an apprentice but I wondered what Champion tier is like. A few more sounds, yeah, as well as a heap more scrolling through the fonts. But the website leads me to believe that Champion tier electronics only comes with a single colour blade. That's unthinkable. Is it true? The beauty of the Veteran RGB is it remembers which colour you've chosen to go with each soundfont. Something the Tri-cree does not do. I'm also wondering what powder coating comes out like. Any experience or videos on it?
Correct, champion tier is a single color. If you want RGB you have to go up to hero if you want a golden harvest sound board. The Veteran tier is not customizable though when it comes to fonts. Powder coating is nice. My vanquish was powder coated gold and it looks good. I a few videos up in my reviews that show that.
@@GrayPaladin I'm not sure what customization I'd want yet. I'm enjoying having individual control over colour and behaviour for each of the 10 sounds. I hated some of the sounds at first, but I've had a couple of days matching things up. Kinda got the most out of the veteran RGB. I'll try an' find your powder coated vanquish vids. Thanks again
Thatnks to your encouragement, I am now hooked on deciding which powder coats will look best on each saber I want. I just passed the point of choosing the exact blade plug for each saber & powder coat finish. At some point an Archon in chrome will join the collection, but, that's to be the Hero Pixel neo sabre. The 'shelf queen'? The rest will be Veteran RGB electronics. Not ready to swop boards and reprogram anything yet. Still waiting for the SaberTrio Vektra, but not stressing. Learning to spin/twirl - either hand. Looking forward to the first duel. From your memories of starting out in the hobby, what's likely to come next for me?
@@zenzombie72 With golden harvest there is nothing to program. It's all drag and drop of files. That archon will be a sweet piece for sure. I guess the next big step in saber ownership is installing one, but if programming is not in your interest then installing may be too much for you.
I just ordered a Bane Mk. 2... actually i hit pay by mistake I was going to wait a bit but oh well. No cancelation options. But I hope I will be happy with it. I am a CNC machinist by trade so I'm going to be very picky 😂
Hey I’m looking to get a budget lightsaber for under 120 bucks would you have any suggestions. I’m looking for either neopixlr but I’m good with rgb to
There are no neopixel lightsabers under $120. If you want those kind of features you're going to have to spend more money. Saberforge ecos are good, but cost $150. Check out Crimson Dawn, they have budget sabers, but again you'll be spending around 150.
Well I know quite a few people that have not had good experiences with the company & like US it amazes me that they're even still in the saber business !? My advice for people would be if you like a hilt perhaps grab it EMPTY then get a proper install with your board of choice although to me there are far better options out there so why not go elsewhere ?!
Well, if you do a custom configuration you're still gonna have to wait like the rest of us. Anything that's pre built is ready to ship so online orders will have it in days. Done all the time especially through Etsy. You walk in there and ask for something not already built you'll be stuck waiting 2-4 months like everyone else because they need to install it. A lot of the wait is the queue and machining parts if not in stock. I've heard stories from their old showroom that people visited, couldn't leave with the saber and waited 6 months to get it.
Good questions. No the saberforge hilts are a great size and well balanced. The diameter is smaller than most other companies. As for the blade, I have always preferred 32" over 36". I think 36" tends to feel too long and top heavy. It's a personal preference for the user though. You may find that you like it, but if you're leaning more to a lighter balanced feel then 32" may be a better feel for you.
I was wonder if was difficult to reinstall electronics into your stelwart gen 3. Cuz ive got a gen 3 progenitor with no electronics cuz they died but i still have the hilt .
Gray paladin I have a question if I purchase a Pre made saber from saber forge could I then add other parts to it palmo's emitters and change the Saint bird's design or what I have to buy that Tier of sabers that allows full customization to or have to build my own
If you buy a preassembled saber your options are limited. You can maybe change the pommel. If you're looking to customize just get an ASP saber and pick the parts you want. If they assemble it for you they will glue all the parts together that are near impossible to take apart unless you have good tools.
Yeah the tiers offer whatever setup you're looking for. The ecos are a real bargain now. About time they went with the standard rather than their own cheap eco electronic setup.
@@GrayPaladin Yea they Basically updated all of their products and started using tri cree xpe2 leds so when you order a veteran tier saber you will get a golden harvest without sd card and a tri cree led of that color which is 10% brighter than their old single color leds
@@Chespin-gc1rf So wait a minute. Veteran tier is GHv3 too now? I thought it was just champion and hero. If that's true that's a great move on their part.
Hey! Planning on getting my first Saberforge saber soon Though I've always found really negative reviews online from people complaining about electronics, sharp edges and such, but all these posts are from 2018 or earlier. Has the company changed? Currently planning on getting an ASF saber with Veteran RGB electronics (also shipping times don't really bother me that much)
As I said in the video I think they've improved a lot. Sharp edges are a bit less common. The electronics are better, but I have a veteran RGB now. It has smoothswing, but no accent/regular swings. Without the accents it's a bit unsatisfying. So, I caution you and suggest you pay the extra for champion tier if possible. I have a video in my Installs playlist on the First Harvest sound board so you can see/hear it in action with my thoughts. Customer service is still really slow. It takes one week for a response. Also, don't get hero pixel or their thin neck sabers. Their patented thread in blade is not good. I don't recommend it.
@@GrayPaladin Ahh good to know about Veteran RGB, I'll be making a wiser purchase now. Does the Champion tier offer you to be able to change blade colours? (Through the use of an external program for example) This isn't a deal breaker for me, just asking out of curiosity. I was also planning just getting a regular 32 inch blade. Is this okay?
@@OrinjiNeko If you get champion RGB you can change colors. Golden Harvest sound board can do a lot. Blade length is always personal preference. I prefer 32".
I’ve been looking into getting a Heretic hilt and just had a couple questions if anyone is willing to answer. -are they good for full contact? -is there a package for basic sounds/off and on? -anyone who owns, would they recommend it? Many thanks!
A subscriber friend of mine called Forged by Light got a heretic and he likes it very much. Here's his video on it. ruclips.net/video/mn0oWy1-_tA/видео.html
Does/can Saberforge install a CFX soundboard on their sabers or ASP hilts? I prefer CFX due to their ease of customization. I don't know how easy Golden Harvest is to mess with. Proffie sounds like a nightmare for non tech guys like me.
Saberforge won't install CFX, but you can have an empty saberforge hilt installed with CFX by someone else. Golden Harvest is pretty user friendly though. I agree that Proffie can be very challenging for non programmers. I don't fuss with Proffie much.
Lead times are about the same from what I've seen. The last saber I got from them was in December 2021. Customer service is still incredibly slow. Each reply comes after a week's wait. They're good about accommodating upgrades and inconveniences but, again...you'll have to wait.
I got a Bastion Apprentice Saber with 37" blade about 2 years ago. So far...so good. I got Veteran because I do not want to deal with damaged electronics. Do you know if they offer upgrades?
They do offer upgrades. You have to email them, choose your option and they will send you a form to complete. You pay, ship the saber and they'll complete your upgrade.
How easy is it to change the electronics in the sabers from saberforge? Right now I ordered an elite tier saber with champion RGB…but I may want to upgrade later down the line
Anything can be changed by the right installer. Removing th existing electronics is usually family simple. The new installation depends on what you're having done. If you got champion tier you'll have a golden harvest sound board which is already top. It's close to CFX and Proffie.
I noticed that my saberforge xenopixle light saber has lights in the base as well. Would it be safe if I were to replace my LED blade with a hollow one and duel with it?
It should be okay, but it won't be bright enough to give you good illumination. Darkwolf has a pixel to LED adapter that will allow you to duel with full brightness.
I'm not going to lie, I have been looking at SF for years, I mean LITERAL years. I can go back 5 years ago and I was looking at parts. I've never had the money to get a saber until now. I've heard the negativity plenty of times and it's always been on edge because of it. That being said, I am still interested in getting a blade. I've got a ASB parts list but those parts are almost never in stock when I check say for one or two. I also have sabers I'd be willing to buy. Wait time is the big thing, I keep hearing buy and wait for months. Over all, if this video has donr anything is give me a motivational boost to invest in a saber.
The wait sucks, but any quality custom saber owner knows that's the nature of the beast. Average wait for good sabers will be 3-6 months. It took 3 months for me to get two ASP sections and those two parts were the only thing in my order. Vader's Vault goes up to a year for sabers! Crazy, I know. The ones that get sabers out quickly are LGT resellers and possibly Ultrasabers (I hear even they're longer now). Those quick sabers are premade and the quality not great, especially electronics reliability. There's a price you pay either way and sometimes it's in time.
@@GrayPaladin Hello again mate o/ Not to long after my previous comment, I went on to SF and purchased a saber. The Cultist (wrapped) currently out of stock. It will be delivered to me in 3 days and I'm looking forward to it. Shipping said 3-6 months and it seems I'll have on the 3 months exactly. Once I get the blade I'll come back and reply again. 👍
@@GrayPaladin So, due to a snow/ice storm that recently happened my saber was delayed by 3 days, but I have it now and have spent the days getting a grasp for it. First off, I will say if the biggest complaint about SaberForge is the multiple months wait, then that is hardly an issue. My saber arrived almost exactly the 3 month mark of shipping. I ordered the Cultist (wrapped), brown leather, red kill key, Veteran tier audio (so the First Harvest), and purple LED color on a 32in blade. The craft and quality is impressive, I am blown away at the saber. Everything about it is amazing. I was hoping to be able to load in custom soundfonts purchased from the internet, bummed I cannot with a First Harvest but that doesn't change my opinion. I never did reach out to SaberForge at any time so I cannot comment on the "horrible" customer service SF has been hit with for years. All in all, I am impressed and stopping the urge to jump and purchase another saber right away. Moving forward, the next thing I would like to do is craft my own ASP saber, but I only ever see two of the four parts available. My biggest fear is will the separate ASP components align correct. That and all the electronics I would have to do. Regardless if my next saber is ASP or another pre-build, I will be investing in the Golden Harvest and Hero Pixel blades.
@@moonlight39echo Your cultist configuration sounds good. The first harvest board is a solid start. It's not overwhelming, but has most of the basic features. ASP can be hard to come by if you have specific sections in mind. The restock of ASP is not as frequent as the complete sabers. For alignment you'll need to use timing shims. Those can be ordered through SF too and you will need them. They're like thin aluminum washers that go over the threading to control how much or little each section can spin to align with the connected section. For electronics in your ASP saber, you can get a plug n'play kits from SF. They have golden harvest kits available. TBH, I'm not a huge fan of their hero pixel mainly because of the thread in blade. You can only use their blade and if it's damaged you have to order another blade specifically from SF. The other alternative is to have someone else other than SF install your ASP hilt.
I've been saying this for a while now; SF has really gotten their shit together in the last year or two!! Nobody wants to wait 6 months for a lightsaber after spending $500! If you want it done right though, if you want to keep it and not send it back; then 6 months is very reasonable!
I have not. From what I have been told and based on manufacturer recommendations, hard dueling is not advised for most thin necks. I believe mine would hold up, but I'm more concerned with the shallow blade depth.
I really need to know. Does saber forge actually deliver safely. Because I don’t want to loose a lot of money to any potential scams. Not saying it is. But there are a lot out there. And I just needed a personal view to see if Saber Forge is reliable.😊
i got an email alert that a main piece i been waiting for has come in...im about to order but i have concerns.....i plan to use the Staff Extension as my main body....will the Soundboard and electronics fit in that piece?
I had a question, I’m looking at getting the Hero+pixel on an elite saber and it says It offers “22 sound fonts with infinite sound effects and a up to 12 blade colors (based on your installation)”. How do you install the blade colors? I’m new to this. Thank you
The colors are preloaded onto the saber. You can add more by connecting to your computer, going into the configuration file and typing in RGB color codes.
@@GrayPaladin I really appreciate your help. Do you have a video on how to do that or have references for somewhere I can go to find compatible sound fonts and RGB color code to add into it? It all sounds like quite a lot to understand.😂🤦🏻♂️
@@GrayPaladin I haven’t ordered the saber yet and hearing what you have said I’m in no rush to understand it all but I was just hoping to understand it a bit better before it arrived. 😄
@@loganbalsley7874 Unless you have a really special or custom color in mind, the preloaded options cover all the main colors. I usually don't have to add anything more on my sabers.
You can install anything you want in any saber if you get the right person to do it. Saberforge only offers proffie in their eco hilts with pre installed electronics from China. All other hilts saberforge will install with Golden or First Harvest Sound Boards.
@@virtualbison6928 Saberforge is a definite upgrade from Ultrasabers. The hilts are really nice and durable. I have experience with Golden harvest and that is a great sound board. As far as Saberforge's install quality of the GHv3, I'm not sure yet but I've seen positive reviews thus far.
@@GrayPaladin Ultrasabers Spectre is the first and only custom lightsaber I own, purchased it last year on May 4th got it 2 weeks later it was great at the time, but now seeing the improvements from saberforge is what making me to give them a try
My saberforge experience is up in smoke. I purchased a saber from their website and I made an error on option feature. I requested cancellation with full refund. It’s been 15 days I haven’t received any confirmation of my request. Still haven’t refunded my money. Keep you viewers posted.
@@GrayPaladin, hi! Good News! They refunded my money yesterday. Will I ever shop from them again? Yes! Will give them another chance. Thank you for responding my post. May the force always be with you!
@@GrayPaladin Do you know if saberforge does black friday deals (at least in the past)? Was looking at an eco saber, wondering if i should wait a few weeks or just go ahead and order to hope to get it for christmas
@@retttixgaming4273 They may have a black Friday deal, but it's usually not savings in cost. It's more like promotions like free blade plug or saber stand. Something like that. Eco sabers never have any kind of sale because they're already a good deal.
I bought from saber-forge once and to be honest I really was not satisfied. The electronic in my saber were shit and I sent it back twice and both times they crapped out after a week. It’s been awhile though and I’m learning how to repair my saber (even though I don’t know how to work with electronics.) but if anyone has any suggestions or advise please reply I really could use the help.
As I said in the video, sabercore 3.0 has many flaws. All eco saber electronics come from LGT in China. Those electronics crap out all the time no matter what company you get it from. Their new Golden Harvest electronics are very good. I do my own saber installs too. Check my installation playlist for tutorials on wiring a saber.
@@GrayPaladin that was really fast, i’ll check that playlist out, So far my project I stripped everything out of my hilt, I don’t plan on trying to salvage anything, I know I want to try to make it a more simple interior because mine was just cluttered with wires it was a pain in the ass to get The speaker out. my college has a workshop in there with a lot of stuff that could come in handy. I also joined our engineering club Just to meet people so some of those people might have some knowledge about that as well. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
My Bastion Eco-Saber I just got (Thursday10/14/21) is having the battery Tab issue 🔋AFTER A DAY? Anybody else have issues soon after getting theirs (Eco-Sabers by Saberforge in general)?
Well the electronics are LGT SaberStudio. Saberforge provides the hilt then all electronics and assembly is done by LGT. I have had a lot of issues with LGT electronics. They just aren't reliable and you get what you pay for, but like you said I still recommend the eco sabers.
@@GrayPaladin exactly, i found a reliable aliexpress store that can send me a high quality machined 2 button sn-pixel v4 lightsaber with internal usb-c charger and 36 inch neopixel blade for 150 quid using a "welcome deal" (about 100 quid off and then i can get another 8 quid off with store coupons) and that was found by barely trying edit: i think finding quality like that comes from being a cheapskate, i learned to find the best bang for the buck
@@GrayPaladin also, alot of affordable options have smooth swing and sounds as a standard base model, the saber forge base model is just a baselit with no sound at all, and costs more than the others with less of the features
@@GrayPaladin I know, but I assume it’s usually for a fully built light and sound saber. I just can’t to order the hilt by itself either no electronics. I’ve heard bad things about their customer service with no communication and awful wait times of up to two to three months or more for your sable to arrive.
@@kle2217 It depends on the saber. Some take more time than others, plus where your order sits in the queue. Empties generally ship within a week if they have the stock. ASP parts, though empty, may take a lot longer.
Can anyone offer help? I ordered a SaberForge light saber and it arrived defective. SaberForge is not responding to my emails and they do not provide a contact number. Has this happened to anyone else? I did initially receive a reply from a Morgan S. But nothing since then and even her email does not include a phone contact. I can't believe these people can't perform the most basic function that they were hired to do.
How much time passed between responses? As I stated in the video, responses less than a week are rare. What was your order? If it was an eco saber it was assembled in China.
@@watchingthecrazyworld7761 Well that's a saber that should have gotten thorough quality control. Saberforge still has a reputation to repair and based on others' experiences, saberforge will take care of you... eventually. Response time is extremely slow because their work load and inquiries are extremely high. Stay on them because you deserve to enjoy what you paid for.
In case you're still confused. Canon: established or agreed-upon constraints governing the background narrative, setting, storyline, characters, etc., in a particular fictional world. Cannon: a mounted gun for firing heavy projectiles; a gun, howitzer, or mortar.
I'm always going to have a fondness for Saberforge. Other companies have lost me completely, but they keep growing with the market, making good decisions, improving... these are the key to customer loyalty.
I agree completely. They have been making smart decisions lately that increase my loyalty.
I've only ever bought from saberforge, but there's a good reason. Their prices and supply are just better than any other competitor I look at. Plus, their customer support seems really good
Sheesh, Gray, I am diving so deeply into the culture… I just bought the Bane MkII with the hero pixel.
@@TraceguyRune I'm planning to get some RGB lightsabers to duel with my lil bro, and so far Saber Forge are the only ones that convince me. They have these two sabers we really like at a decent price.
I’ve been following saberforge since 2015, got a saber from them in 2016, 2017, 2019, and 2020, with a few repairs and upgrades along the way of course. They are currently the best saber company. Back in 2016 though they definitely weren’t, but they have and continue to make improvements. Their customer service has improved, better electronics, more saber models, more saber classes that are more affordable. Most repairs I’ve needed on sabers were mostly due to user error (except for like 2), and I am happy with their work and expect to buy more from them in the future
there are better companies
That’s another advantage of living in the unincorporated community of Aloha, Oregon and Saber Forge having their show room in their headquarters in Oregon City. I can try out some of their Lightsabers that they have, even Lightsabers that they don’t have online, from their huge collection of Lightsabers available for immediate sale. So I can buy a Lightsaber that I can try before I buy
I know the owner of saberforge very well he used to work at pg and e with my grandpa and 12 years ago he made a prototype of my saber and it recently got scuffed up so i sent it to him and he fixed it up for me and it has all this new stuff in it that confuses me lol
I don't own any SF's but I have been following them since 2017 and have seen everything you mentioned. Even looking at the current versions of what you show in this video, it's incredible. The prodigal son now has movie accurate chrome finishing on the appropriate parts rather than just aluminum.
Thank you so much for this professional and honest review. I have been looking at a lot of saber companies. And decided to go with Saberforge
Glad it was of help. Saberforge is not without several flaws, but I still find them a worth while company to purchase from.
This was a great detailed analysis, but I’m still waiting for Darth Paladin 😂😂😂🤩🤩🤩👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Careful what you wish for 😈
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Was going to buy the Eco Fallen Order but i love The Prodical Son MK2, Golden Rapier LGT Insurgent but the Graflex LGT is certainly on my radar. The amount of Saber chassis/hilt designs and features across the Eco to LGT are premium at first i was baffled by the prices but when considering what actually goes into making these replica Sabers with the detail, weight and feel in your hand. The quality, sheer accuracy being astonishing, the overall finish on them is immaculate the features Eco gives you at the price and the LGT Features are more than fair. The options with customisation are great to see i prefer the premade stuff as they do everything i want but the added feature is more than welcome. I'm going to track down The LGT Graflex an iconic saber for an OT lover like myself and in preparation for my Finn Cosplay. The leather accessories and Beskar, Credits from both Imperial and Republic eras are great and exclusive bonuses from what i can tell.
Thanks so much for this video. Helped me decide to get some Saberforge sabers. Also, that custom saber you put together looks really cool.
Thanks and glad the video helped.
Thanks for the great video! I have ordered myself a Saberforge DIY saber kit from their Etsy store and it was shipped to Germany within TWO weeks! And I love it!
The Etsy shipping is so much better than the main store. Those DIY kits are a great option.
Very well said on everything that you've mentioned in the review. I've had no issues with Saberforge when it comes to their empties and ASP line since I install my own hilts with CFX/Proffie. Beautiful hilts and unique.
Thank you. I do my own installs too and forgot to mention that I installed my vanquish and count with neopixel CFX. The exalted has a CFX in it too installed by someone else. Empty hilt lead times are much better than installed. Although ASP lead times aren't great which is odd.
1st, glad to have you making videos again. 😀 2nd, as a result of your video, I may just give Saberforge another try. They do have a few sabers I'd like to have. Thanks again.
One day you'll fully embrace the dark side haha.
@@GrayPaladin my Grey Jedi (Malik Thanewulf) does have a sith name. If he decides to completely embrace the Dark Side.
Yea over the last 4-5 years this company has just become phenomenal. CS has improved significantly thankfully and i think general construction/shipping times have reduced pretty significantly as well. Just received an Avenger mk2 saber with veteran electronics and I'm just in love with this thing. I went through like 20 plastic versions of this exact saber model as a child XD.
Smooth swing is by far the greatest realism enhancement they've made. I have another saber i bought from them like mid 2020 with veteran electronics and it didnt have smooth swing back then, which makes it sound really clunky and just takes away from the realism. But smooth swing... you should have heard me giggle the first time i swung this thing XD i felt like a little kid on christmas morning.
The veteran upgrade was a great move on their part. My first sabers were the plastic ones that were cheap and not realistic at all to today's standards, but it's all there was and I liked it.
Now it's all on a level I couldn't fathom as a child. These sabers are incredible.
This is very helpful, I'm planning on ordering my first saber from saberforge
Looking forward to the DIY Golden Harvest video! Thanks for the video. I had gathered saberforge was a no go, but I'm thinking it may be a place I could get the parts to build my own.
If you're looking to get parts only then The Custom Saber Shop would be a better choice. They have more quality options and ship waaaay faster.
I awesome! thanks for the advice, much needed and appreciated.
Just ordered my first Sabre. Im excited for it, but worried about the wait.
Cool you got your first saber. The wait is the worst part, but once you finally get your saber it's even more exciting because you waited so long.
I am so thankful for this post. I've been waiting for a solid review like this. Thanks Buddy!!! This week I just ordered the Mk3 Prodigal Son with Crystal Chamber, Hero Electronics, and Neo pix blade....I'm so freaking excited lol
You went for the holy grail of sabers. That's going to be a great saber once you survive the wait. I'm glad the video was helpful. Thanks!
That will be a good gift for Valentine’s Day if it gets to you by then!!!😂
I’m going on four months waiting for my Count MK2!!!! It’s my first saber too!
@@kenadams1308 I'm at 4 months waiting for my Count Mk2 as well.
@@GrayPaladin I really did!! Dream come true for me, I mean really. I will be sure to send you guys photos and a short video of it when octet it. I haven’t seen many with a new MK3 with the news crystal chamber. My face is like yours when you unboxed your Electrum hahaha I was cracking up because I can’t wait to feel that lol
@@kenadams1308 AWESOME! Please make sure you come back to this post and tell us all about it! I can’t wait to see reviews from people I’m speaking to directly 😎😎😎
Thanks for this video. I haven't received any sabers from SF yet but I do have two on order (one of them well passed the lead time). This is making me more confident in my purchase. Hope I get them soon.
Great job and very informative! MTFBWY
I have two on order as well. The waiting game is real 😆
@@GrayPaladin LOL tell me about it.
I just got my Desert Warrior a week ago! Love it!
Cool! Have you seen my video where I installed mine with the first harvest sound board?
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My Saberforge experience had been positive overall besides a long wait time on completed sabers. However buying an empty hilt with a plug & play kit has arrived in a timely manner.
As for combat i've beat the living snot out of my saberforge golden harvest v3 champion tiers with no issues 🤙
i just bought the mk2 count u hero addition it was around 800 u think i could duel wit it or na
so their blades are very durable for combat? i have a few ultrasaber hilts but im looking for better hilts but the only thing keeping me from saberforge is the combat factor
Nervous... I'm not the wealthiest guy, but I've always dreamt of having a Hero Pixel saber. I heard about the questionable business practices supposedly from Ultrasabers, so I started researching Saberforge. Gotta say, your video sold me on them! It was incredibly informative and helpful to see such a well-organized video on the subject, and I think I'm gonna go with SaberForge as my first choice when I get the money. Thank you, definitely subscribing!
I'm glad the video helped. If it were 3 year ago I would have recommended your first purchase be somewhere else, but in the last two years saberforge has made positive steps to improve the company and make the quality more trustworthy.
When the time comes I hope you are very happy with your first lightsaber.
I hope that you don't end up having the nightmare experience that I am having. This "company" has tons of room for improvement.
In my personal experience with neopixel sabers, they aren’t worth it (for me at least). On camera they seem much brighter than normal sabers with leds in the hilt, but in person there’s barely a difference. Plus with a pixel you can’t bang blades with others because the lights are in the blade. But if you aren’t planning on using it as a sparring saber, and you want that little tiny bit of extra brightness, then go for it. That’s just my 2 cents.
I was glad to see this I just ordered a Saberforge Bane in Sept just waiting this’ll be my first saber.
Bane is a great saber. I wanted that to be my first saber back in 2019, but it was out of stock so I got the Vanquish instead.
I ordered a champion tier from Saberforge back in July. Then I ordered a Neopixel from Sabertrio in August. I have my Sabertrio lightsaber. Got it 5 1/2 weeks after ordering. Still waiting on that Saberforge…..
Took me 4 months for my Count Mk2 to ship. It's the name of the game there. Sabertrio can ship sooner before they close their store and only take limited orders to that they can fulfill them. You may get your saber sooner, but it sucks that no one else can order of one. It's almost the same wait time if you miss their one day opening.
still waiting on my count mk II that i ordered in June as well. Great vid man
We're going on 4 months. It's brutal 🤣
Awesome video. After watching this i am beyond confident in the decision i made especially with the golden harvest pixel option. Im just worried about the lead time hahah. Ehh worth it
Golden harvest pixel is the best choice you can make. The wait does suck, but once you get it it should be worth it.
Well said mate I totally agree with you. Recently their quality has massively improved and I just love to see those restock/new hilt emails! Much, much more common than a few years ago. When I first ordered from them 3 years ago their custom service was not good at all but recently it been really good (to me) Ghv3 is a great board only thing I wish was that they used a bigger switch but that is completely personal preference. Loving the new website that they updated to a few weeks ago. I think the powder coating price drop was a smart move and the fact that it adds no extra lead time is great. I also like how in recent times they have started doing more diy friendly routes such as their diy kits on Etsy or the scratch and dent parts. I always will love saberforge LED colours. There is just something about them. However that quad cree annihilates your battery! Electronic have massively improved. But come on just remove veteran from the website! (Sorry for the rant 😂) still need myself a bane
Saberforge is one company where the pandemic did them some good. They cleaned house, revamped and rebranded themselves. I like all the changes they made. A lot in a short time. I think they saved their reputation. When one hears the name Saberforge now they don't immediately think "beware".
I don't mind the veteran tier if they drop the price... massively. Otherwise it's, like obsidian, a dinosaur. Golden Harvest is solid enough for the company to stand alone on. The 12mm switch I like and make sense for their hilts since they are generally smaller diameter than most other companies on the market, but I get how that's a preference. I wish they used better quality speakers. If they're going to up the board and electronics, why not go with a better speaker to match?
The Etsy store was a great move on their part. The concept alone of a diy kit is just brilliant. Perfect for a newbie who has no idea what to do or where to get started. The Custom Saber Shop, though great, is not exactly newbie friendly.
If Saberforge keeps improving I'll keep buying.
@@GrayPaladin no way! They just update veteran to have smooth swing 😂
@@turtlehelmmemes it's awesome. All sound tiers golden harvest. A great change.
I had my Eco Saber core die on me after a year. I didn’t send it back because they said it was going to be about 4-5 months just for a repair. I just keep it around as a “Shelf Queen” as the hilt itself is quite nice. I had much better results from KR Sabers and doing the internals myself. Maybe I’d try another Eco, I like their hilt size my hands are a bit smaller and they fit and feel better to me.
First time buyer as an adult thanks for the video
You're welcome and good luck.
I got Eco and Aprentice sabers from saberforge. The Golden Harvest (HeroPixel) board on paper is better than the Xenopixel, but the user experiance with Xenopixel is a lot better. Plus, the Eco sabers take 2 weeks to ship, while the other takes 15 weeks
The ecos are a great option now compared to the others. Decent tech, decent price and without the wait.
Gray Paladin, what can I say, I really, really enjoyed this video. Where to start? Well I currently own two sabers, both by Saberforge. My first saber, the Exiled (mk1) was purchased back in 2015 while my second, the Cleric was purchased in April of this year (2021). Both are Champion Tier sabers with the current Golden Harvest 3.33 soundboard. When I first purchased my Exiled I didn't have the options we have now. So when I purchased the Cleric I opted to send my Exiled in for a much needed update. The update awarded me the new Golden Harvest 3.33 and the slew of sound fonts that comes with it. I also opted to change my saber color from blue to yellow. I did, however, lose the kill key which, I actually liked as it gave the saber a bit more personality. It was like an extra little greebly. But the auto shut down is a lovely feature.
I'm a huge fan of the mk 1 Exalted and in some ways prefer it over the current Mk2. I just prefer the solid emitter to that of the new one with the holes. However I really dig their new screw on saber blade design. I toyed around with the idea of getting the new Exile with neo pixel but I'd rather put that money toward a third saber. I've contemplated Electrum Sabercrafts' Evo-Flex as my third saber but I'm not sure. Upon watching this video I always viewed Saberforge's Apprentice line as an inferior line of sabers in spite of me preferring that tier's designs. Now that I see we can get all the same goodies built in, I'm really contemplating the Arbiter. It's such a cool looking saber. I'm quite sure if I go that route, I'll get the Arbiter Shoto at some point to go with it.
I've went on for some time but let me close with this... you hit the nail on the head regarding Saberforge's customer service. It's MUCH better than before as it doesn't take nearly a month for a reply. It still takes a while, about 3 to 5 days. And a word from the wise, any question you may have, ask it all at one time because if you leave anything out and reach out to customer service again, expect another 3 to 5 days for your new question to be answered. In 2015 the customer service was horrid. I mean a reply was akin to winning the lottery. Always nice, just long wait times. So yeah that's the downside to Saberforge. Be it simple correspondence or the super long saber lead times, the saber process takes quite some time.
Thanks for sharing and I'm glad you liked the video. For you having made a purchase several years ago, it must seem like a new or different company. They've come s long way and I hope they continue to improve and focus on customer satisfaction.
@@GrayPaladin Quite right. It was a much better experience. The only issue I had during my latest transaction was I had to reach out to Saberforge before they shipped my sabers. Weeks past the max lead time, I reached out for an update regarding my sabers and, miraculously, received a shipping notice a couple days later. No explanation, just a shipping notification. But the sabers arrived in prime condition and work amazingly.
I do have a question; how would you rate Saberforge's Apprentice Sabers? Your video convinced me to give them a look but I just wanted to confirm the quality of that tier. I looked into it and the weight seems comparable to that of the elite tier so I'm guessing they are quality sabers. I'm telling you, that Arbiter is stunning. I really have my eye on that one. Though I am very interested in Electrum Sabercraft's Evo-Flex as well. Oh one last thing -- thank you!!! Man I've learned so much about custom sabers after watching two of your videos in all the years I've been dabbling in this hobby we call saber collecting. Thank you!
@@genefactor007 I only have one apprentice and it's an older discontinued model. I think they are good. I was going to order the prodigy at some point and I really like the sentinel. For the price, they seem well worth it.
I'm glad the videos were helpful. I have lots on my channel and several playlists to narrow down what you may be looking for. I also dabble in installs too. I did a couple series on installing a saber from empty.
Also, for me, I stay away from Electrum Sabercrafts. They have nice hilts, evo-flex among my favorites, but I don't like their Diatium 3 sound board. It's highly flawed in my opinion.
I have a love hate with them. They’re really good, however I’ve been waiting on ASP parts to be back in full for 5+ months now after telling me 3 times they’re on the way
The ASP saber I showed in this video took me a very long time to get the parts.
My experience with Saberforge has been a mixed bag; I love a lot of their hilt designs, and Golden Harvest v3 is fantastic, but out of the three hilts I've bought directly from the company, I've had to send two back for repairs not long after receiving them - one had a faulty recharge port and the other has issues with the speaker. The customer service is friendly enough, I will say, even if the wait for a reply is a bit long. And the lead times...oof. Still, the hilts are awesome - I'm probably going to order the hilts empty and do the installs myself, once I study up on the best methods, of course.
Everyone's experience is different; some better than others. I had similar issues with Sabertrio and had to send the same new saber back twice for repair, but I still stand by that company. Golden Harvest is tops for sure and Saberforge has definitely won in the category of hilt options and design.
@@GrayPaladin I definitely agree with you when it comes to the "behind the curtain" stuff with the owner - I don't pay any attention to that, I just worry about how I'm treated as a customer. And yeah, I do plan on ordering from them again at some point.
I live in the unincorporated community of Aloha, Oregon. I have a job so I can earn spending money. Saber Forge has a show room at their headquarters in Oregon City. I plan to go there to buy a Lightsaber. Saber Forge has a huge selection of pre built Lightsabers available for immediate sale. I have an advantage of being able to try out different Lightsabers before making a purchase. There’s also an advantage to see the Lightsabers in person, which is a lot better than seeing them online. I don’t have to worry about ordering a Lightsaber online, when I can go directly to the source, actually see Lightsabers in person, try them out, and buy one. A major advantage of living in Oregon, is that Saber Forge has a show room in their headquarters in my home state and it’s in driving distance
Yeah that's awesome. I saw they recently opened their new showroom. You have a huge advantage over the rest of us. Enjoy saber shopping in person.
The fact that they allow you to pretty much completely customize a very high quality lightsaber is enough for me to be fond of the brand
Great review. As we discussed in another thread, there hilts are great. But the blades are super brittle in the thin neck sabers.
There claim that the elite sabers are built for full contact is definitely not true. At least for the Redeemer MK3 that I have.
So as a heads up to anyone looking at these. Great saber as a display piece. But I broke mine off at the hilt dueling my 11 year old daughter. She was using a Disney Savi’s workshop blade. Mine is a Gen1 screw in 37” blade. Hopefully the Gen2 screw in blades are bit better. And 37” may be to long for a thin neck hilt.
I got a redeemer mk3 in a mystery box and you're right. Total shelf queen because that hilt is not practical for use. I sold that hilt shortly after my review. ruclips.net/video/SyPOS-6KF8s/видео.html
Great analysis. I just ordered one from saber forge. Thanks!
Which saber did you choose?
@@GrayPaladin I got the Cleric Wrapped one, hero tier, weathered. I wish I ordered it earlier so it would get here in time for Xmas but oh well. Still excited.
@@deejayhamm That'll be a good looking saber when you get your hands on it. MTFBWY.
Your shop reviews are super helpful - many thanks 🙏
I’m still shopping around, and must say I am impressed with Saberforge’s customization options hilt-wise.
I am seeing comments regarding blades breaking off however. So I’m wondering if perhaps just getting a hilt from Saberforge, and getting a blade from somewhere else - might yield the most solid result.
I’m mainly looking to do heavy dueling with it - most likely in The Saber Legion, which requires a 1” OD blade with 3mm (or 1/8”) wall thickness. That’s a pretty heavy blade, and the blade connection to the hilt needs to be solid.
Are you familiar with the LamaDiLuce Polaris, which has a seating depth of 2” for their 1” blades (which I’m guessing was a deliberate effort to keep the blade in during heavy blows)? I wasn’t able to find out how thick their blade walls are though.
Another option would be to purchase the blade tubes closer to the tube manufacturer, and save money there, especially if I need that 3mm thickness. I found one on amazon for half the cost but the only issue is that it’s clear and not diffused white. Yes I could DYI it with cellophane but then the tip would look different than the body, which wouldn’t look good.
So I’m still looking, as I’m not seeing any shop offering the type of hilt AND blade customization that would get me to a saber I like and can use in TSL tournaments.
Any suggestions? And do you know where we can find a transwhite 1” OD with 3mm or 1/8” wall thickness blade or tube?
The saberforge blades are actually all thick wall heavy dueling blades. The weight is quite heavy too. Saberforge blades are very durable and tough. The issue in the past was their thin neck sabers didn't have a deep blade depth and so the blades weren't seated enough in the hilt.
Their next big issue was the thread in blade. The LED Module was making the polycarbonate brittle and it was breaking off. Saberforge said they fixed the issue by redesigning the blade and giving free replacements to customers who had the old version.
My preferred blade is Sabertrio's midgrade. That trans white gives the best brightness and glow in my opinion. They offer a heavy grade blade too, but I haven't used it before.
I also ordered my Count mk2 in June. Still waiting on it.
I'm really hoping we get shipping notifications this month.
@@GrayPaladin me too. I've always been happy with the quality of their sabers. Can't wait to receive mine.
Sabre forges headquarters is right next to my work I want one badly
Great Multi Saber Review Man very Cool Sabers
Gonna go Check them out ..they're only an 1 hrs away ....soo I'm excited to check it out...
That's great you're close enough to check out their showroom.
I got my Bane Mk.2 copper/black First Harvest. It is sweet but the volume is pretty low even when i turn it to as high as i can tell.
I got it before the 4th week though so their times seemed to have gotten better.
The machine quality looks great.
Their speakers aren't very good and if the pommel design is thick it really subdues the volume of the saber. I had the same problem with my vanquish. I ended up replacing the speaker and it's much better now.
Bane is a sweet design. Copper is a cool color. I bet your saber is real nice.
Great video, thank you for sharing!
Best complete review ever
Thank you
can anyone speak to how well ordering resold sabers is from saberforge? ive heard lots of negative things about sf but i recently ordered an lgt revenge saber from them. I hope since its not sf brand it will be ok
Generally LGT reseller sabers are all the same. They come from China. Sometimes they are drop shipped and ship directly from China when ordered and never touch the hands of the reseller.
From my experience LGT is a crap shoot. Sometimes they are great and sometimes you get a dud. No way to tell, but duds are always replaced. You're safe ordering an LGT or TXQ from Saberforge.
I really debating grabbing the dooku saber from the forge.
I have The Count Mk2 fully installed with golden Harvest and neopixel. It's a nice saber. Only setback is the small 24mm speaker that's not at all loud.
@@GrayPaladin thats ok with me i only have el cheepo sabers the disney black series and sometimes i wishbi voukd turn the volume off , they irritate me sometimes in certain situations.
@@PsyKotyK These sabers do have volume control.
Here I am again. Researching my next purchase. I'm looking at an elite saber (or two) next, but my question is about the electronics tiers.
I'm very happy with a Veteran RGB in an apprentice but I wondered what Champion tier is like. A few more sounds, yeah, as well as a heap more scrolling through the fonts. But the website leads me to believe that Champion tier electronics only comes with a single colour blade. That's unthinkable.
Is it true?
The beauty of the Veteran RGB is it remembers which colour you've chosen to go with each soundfont. Something the Tri-cree does not do.
I'm also wondering what powder coating comes out like. Any experience or videos on it?
Correct, champion tier is a single color. If you want RGB you have to go up to hero if you want a golden harvest sound board. The Veteran tier is not customizable though when it comes to fonts.
Powder coating is nice. My vanquish was powder coated gold and it looks good. I a few videos up in my reviews that show that.
@@GrayPaladin I'm not sure what customization I'd want yet. I'm enjoying having individual control over colour and behaviour for each of the 10 sounds. I hated some of the sounds at first, but I've had a couple of days matching things up. Kinda got the most out of the veteran RGB.
I'll try an' find your powder coated vanquish vids.
Thanks again
Thatnks to your encouragement, I am now hooked on deciding which powder coats will look best on each saber I want.
I just passed the point of choosing the exact blade plug for each saber & powder coat finish.
At some point an Archon in chrome will join the collection, but, that's to be the Hero Pixel neo sabre.
The 'shelf queen'?
The rest will be Veteran RGB electronics.
Not ready to swop boards and reprogram anything yet.
Still waiting for the SaberTrio Vektra, but not stressing.
Learning to spin/twirl - either hand. Looking forward to the first duel.
From your memories of starting out in the hobby, what's likely to come next for me?
@@zenzombie72 With golden harvest there is nothing to program. It's all drag and drop of files. That archon will be a sweet piece for sure.
I guess the next big step in saber ownership is installing one, but if programming is not in your interest then installing may be too much for you.
Excellent video
Thanks my friend
I just ordered a Bane Mk. 2... actually i hit pay by mistake I was going to wait a bit but oh well.
No cancelation options.
But I hope I will be happy with it. I am a CNC machinist by trade so I'm going to be very picky 😂
The Bane is a pretty popular saber. You'll probably like it.
Hey I’m looking to get a budget lightsaber for under 120 bucks would you have any suggestions. I’m looking for either neopixlr but I’m good with rgb to
There are no neopixel lightsabers under $120. If you want those kind of features you're going to have to spend more money.
Saberforge ecos are good, but cost $150. Check out Crimson Dawn, they have budget sabers, but again you'll be spending around 150.
@@GrayPaladin thanks so much is it with it to get a neodsaber for the extra money or just buy a rgblightsaber
@@oblivionpb7952 I always think neosabers are better SD worth. Just my opinion.
@@GrayPaladin ok thanks
Great video as always 👍
I'm surprised to see that you dont have any of the shoto sabers.
I never got into them and am not a dual wielder.
Well I know quite a few people that have not had good experiences with the company & like US it amazes me that they're even still in the saber business !? My advice for people would be if you like a hilt perhaps grab it EMPTY then get a proper install with your board of choice although to me there are far better options out there so why not go elsewhere ?!
Why wait four months for your Lightsaber to arrive , when I can buy a Lightsaber at the source?
Well, if you do a custom configuration you're still gonna have to wait like the rest of us. Anything that's pre built is ready to ship so online orders will have it in days. Done all the time especially through Etsy.
You walk in there and ask for something not already built you'll be stuck waiting 2-4 months like everyone else because they need to install it.
A lot of the wait is the queue and machining parts if not in stock. I've heard stories from their old showroom that people visited, couldn't leave with the saber and waited 6 months to get it.
Does the Proffie pixel core on the eco sabers accept the adding of custom sound fonts?
Proffie can do what you want IF you know how to program it. It's not a simple click n' drag.
I'm a newbie to saberforge and just ordered a heropixel, do you find the hilts to be a little massive? Are the 37inch bladed too big? Just curious.
Good questions. No the saberforge hilts are a great size and well balanced. The diameter is smaller than most other companies.
As for the blade, I have always preferred 32" over 36". I think 36" tends to feel too long and top heavy. It's a personal preference for the user though. You may find that you like it, but if you're leaning more to a lighter balanced feel then 32" may be a better feel for you.
@@GrayPaladin Thank you for the reply!!!!!
I was wonder if was difficult to reinstall electronics into your stelwart gen 3. Cuz ive got a gen 3 progenitor with no electronics cuz they died but i still have the hilt .
The hardest part was finding a chassis that fit. Everything was small so that was the biggest challenge.
Gray paladin I have a question if I purchase a Pre made saber from saber forge could I then add other parts to it palmo's emitters and change the Saint bird's design or what I have to buy that Tier of sabers that allows full customization to or have to build my own
If you buy a preassembled saber your options are limited. You can maybe change the pommel. If you're looking to customize just get an ASP saber and pick the parts you want. If they assemble it for you they will glue all the parts together that are near impossible to take apart unless you have good tools.
The eco sabers now come standard with tri cree rgb and a smoothswing soundboard Also Warrior is light only so stunt
Yeah the tiers offer whatever setup you're looking for. The ecos are a real bargain now. About time they went with the standard rather than their own cheap eco electronic setup.
@@GrayPaladin Yea they Basically updated all of their products and started using tri cree xpe2 leds so when you order a veteran tier saber you will get a golden harvest without sd card and a tri cree led of that color which is 10% brighter than their old single color leds
@@Chespin-gc1rf So wait a minute. Veteran tier is GHv3 too now? I thought it was just champion and hero. If that's true that's a great move on their part.
@@GrayPaladin Yup next month or actually this month it's going to be standard for veteran tier lol
Hey! Planning on getting my first Saberforge saber soon
Though I've always found really negative reviews online from people complaining about electronics, sharp edges and such, but all these posts are from 2018 or earlier.
Has the company changed?
Currently planning on getting an ASF saber with Veteran RGB electronics (also shipping times don't really bother me that much)
As I said in the video I think they've improved a lot. Sharp edges are a bit less common. The electronics are better, but I have a veteran RGB now. It has smoothswing, but no accent/regular swings. Without the accents it's a bit unsatisfying. So, I caution you and suggest you pay the extra for champion tier if possible. I have a video in my Installs playlist on the First Harvest sound board so you can see/hear it in action with my thoughts.
Customer service is still really slow. It takes one week for a response. Also, don't get hero pixel or their thin neck sabers. Their patented thread in blade is not good. I don't recommend it.
@@GrayPaladin Ahh good to know about Veteran RGB, I'll be making a wiser purchase now.
Does the Champion tier offer you to be able to change blade colours? (Through the use of an external program for example) This isn't a deal breaker for me, just asking out of curiosity.
I was also planning just getting a regular 32 inch blade. Is this okay?
@@OrinjiNeko If you get champion RGB you can change colors. Golden Harvest sound board can do a lot. Blade length is always personal preference. I prefer 32".
@@GrayPaladin Oh, does Champion RGB exist? I couldn't find it on the website as a plug&play kit
@@OrinjiNeko It's available for installed electronics
I’ve been looking into getting a Heretic hilt and just had a couple questions if anyone is willing to answer.
-are they good for full contact?
-is there a package for basic sounds/off and on?
-anyone who owns, would they recommend it?
Many thanks!
A subscriber friend of mine called Forged by Light got a heretic and he likes it very much. Here's his video on it.
ruclips.net/video/mn0oWy1-_tA/видео.html
Does/can Saberforge install a CFX soundboard on their sabers or ASP hilts? I prefer CFX due to their ease of customization. I don't know how easy Golden Harvest is to mess with. Proffie sounds like a nightmare for non tech guys like me.
Saberforge won't install CFX, but you can have an empty saberforge hilt installed with CFX by someone else.
Golden Harvest is pretty user friendly though. I agree that Proffie can be very challenging for non programmers. I don't fuss with Proffie much.
@@GrayPaladin thanks. I guess I'll give Golden Harvest a try. I was able to learn the basics of Asteria, so it shouldn't be too hard.
His hands 99% of the time 🙏
May I ask, how are their shipping times in 2022? And has their customer support improved?😁
Lead times are about the same from what I've seen. The last saber I got from them was in December 2021.
Customer service is still incredibly slow. Each reply comes after a week's wait. They're good about accommodating upgrades and inconveniences but, again...you'll have to wait.
I got a Bastion Apprentice Saber with 37" blade about 2 years ago. So far...so good. I got Veteran because I do not want to deal with damaged electronics. Do you know if they offer upgrades?
They do offer upgrades. You have to email them, choose your option and they will send you a form to complete. You pay, ship the saber and they'll complete your upgrade.
@@GrayPaladin Thanks. Bastion is a good apprentice saber look. I got an old 'veteran' grade level. I will look into it.
Uhh... Uhhhh. Uh uh uh uh .. uh great information
How easy is it to change the electronics in the sabers from saberforge? Right now I ordered an elite tier saber with champion RGB…but I may want to upgrade later down the line
Anything can be changed by the right installer. Removing th existing electronics is usually family simple. The new installation depends on what you're having done. If you got champion tier you'll have a golden harvest sound board which is already top. It's close to CFX and Proffie.
@@GrayPaladin Awesome thank you. I was thinking I may upgrade to a pixel blade down the line as I am not going to be dueling much.
@@placenamehere9901 That should be relatively easy as long as it's not a thin neck.
@@GrayPaladin Good to know. Thank you!
I noticed that my saberforge xenopixle light saber has lights in the base as well. Would it be safe if I were to replace my LED blade with a hollow one and duel with it?
It should be okay, but it won't be bright enough to give you good illumination.
Darkwolf has a pixel to LED adapter that will allow you to duel with full brightness.
I'm not going to lie, I have been looking at SF for years, I mean LITERAL years. I can go back 5 years ago and I was looking at parts. I've never had the money to get a saber until now. I've heard the negativity plenty of times and it's always been on edge because of it. That being said, I am still interested in getting a blade. I've got a ASB parts list but those parts are almost never in stock when I check say for one or two. I also have sabers I'd be willing to buy. Wait time is the big thing, I keep hearing buy and wait for months.
Over all, if this video has donr anything is give me a motivational boost to invest in a saber.
The wait sucks, but any quality custom saber owner knows that's the nature of the beast. Average wait for good sabers will be 3-6 months. It took 3 months for me to get two ASP sections and those two parts were the only thing in my order. Vader's Vault goes up to a year for sabers! Crazy, I know. The ones that get sabers out quickly are LGT resellers and possibly Ultrasabers (I hear even they're longer now). Those quick sabers are premade and the quality not great, especially electronics reliability.
There's a price you pay either way and sometimes it's in time.
@@GrayPaladin
Hello again mate o/
Not to long after my previous comment, I went on to SF and purchased a saber. The Cultist (wrapped) currently out of stock. It will be delivered to me in 3 days and I'm looking forward to it. Shipping said 3-6 months and it seems I'll have on the 3 months exactly.
Once I get the blade I'll come back and reply again. 👍
@@GrayPaladin So, due to a snow/ice storm that recently happened my saber was delayed by 3 days, but I have it now and have spent the days getting a grasp for it.
First off, I will say if the biggest complaint about SaberForge is the multiple months wait, then that is hardly an issue. My saber arrived almost exactly the 3 month mark of shipping. I ordered the Cultist (wrapped), brown leather, red kill key, Veteran tier audio (so the First Harvest), and purple LED color on a 32in blade. The craft and quality is impressive, I am blown away at the saber. Everything about it is amazing. I was hoping to be able to load in custom soundfonts purchased from the internet, bummed I cannot with a First Harvest but that doesn't change my opinion. I never did reach out to SaberForge at any time so I cannot comment on the "horrible" customer service SF has been hit with for years.
All in all, I am impressed and stopping the urge to jump and purchase another saber right away. Moving forward, the next thing I would like to do is craft my own ASP saber, but I only ever see two of the four parts available. My biggest fear is will the separate ASP components align correct. That and all the electronics I would have to do. Regardless if my next saber is ASP or another pre-build, I will be investing in the Golden Harvest and Hero Pixel blades.
@@moonlight39echo Your cultist configuration sounds good. The first harvest board is a solid start. It's not overwhelming, but has most of the basic features.
ASP can be hard to come by if you have specific sections in mind. The restock of ASP is not as frequent as the complete sabers. For alignment you'll need to use timing shims. Those can be ordered through SF too and you will need them. They're like thin aluminum washers that go over the threading to control how much or little each section can spin to align with the connected section.
For electronics in your ASP saber, you can get a plug n'play kits from SF. They have golden harvest kits available. TBH, I'm not a huge fan of their hero pixel mainly because of the thread in blade. You can only use their blade and if it's damaged you have to order another blade specifically from SF.
The other alternative is to have someone else other than SF install your ASP hilt.
@@GrayPaladin
So you would suggest buying one part at a time, when in stock, and self assemble. Got it.
Solid video man.
Thank you
I've been saying this for a while now; SF has really gotten their shit together in the last year or two!! Nobody wants to wait 6 months for a lightsaber after spending $500! If you want it done right though, if you want to keep it and not send it back; then 6 months is very reasonable!
When you dump that kind of money you expect a service done right
Have you done hard sparring with the thin neck I want to know if bending is a problem
I have not. From what I have been told and based on manufacturer recommendations, hard dueling is not advised for most thin necks. I believe mine would hold up, but I'm more concerned with the shallow blade depth.
Well shit
I really need to know. Does saber forge actually deliver safely. Because I don’t want to loose a lot of money to any potential scams. Not saying it is. But there are a lot out there. And I just needed a personal view to see if Saber Forge is reliable.😊
As you can see from the the many sabers I have in the video, yes they deliver safely. It just takes about 3 months to get them 😂
i got an email alert that a main piece i been waiting for has come in...im about to order but i have concerns.....i plan to use the Staff Extension as my main body....will the Soundboard and electronics fit in that piece?
The diameter yes, but the extension is long so I hope you have a plan to secure the chassis inside so it doesn't slide around.
@@GrayPaladin i have no plans past designing the hilt...but thanks for the heads up.
I had a question, I’m looking at getting the Hero+pixel on an elite saber and it says It offers “22 sound fonts with infinite sound effects and a up to 12 blade colors (based on your installation)”. How do you install the blade colors? I’m new to this. Thank you
The colors are preloaded onto the saber. You can add more by connecting to your computer, going into the configuration file and typing in RGB color codes.
@@GrayPaladin I really appreciate your help. Do you have a video on how to do that or have references for somewhere I can go to find compatible sound fonts and RGB color code to add into it? It all sounds like quite a lot to understand.😂🤦🏻♂️
@@GrayPaladin I haven’t ordered the saber yet and hearing what you have said I’m in no rush to understand it all but I was just hoping to understand it a bit better before it arrived. 😄
@@loganbalsley7874 Unless you have a really special or custom color in mind, the preloaded options cover all the main colors. I usually don't have to add anything more on my sabers.
@@loganbalsley7874 ruclips.net/video/J-hwmQegVg4/видео.html
I bought my first saber from them in 2016 had to send it back a few times because of issues
A lot can change in 5 years. However, an issue for larger companies is quality control.
@@GrayPaladin We will see because I just ordered one for the first time in 3 or 4 years
I did have problems with my juggernaut, the knives on the emitter got knocked off and the screw well was stripped so I can’t screw them back in
@@noahjoye9821 In June I ordered my first saber from with Golden harvest hero pixel. I got a Count Mk2. Fingers crossed it's beyond expectations.
@@GrayPaladin I have three Saber Forge and one ultra Saber
So correct me if I'm wrong, can almost all saber forge hilts have proffie installed or is the proffie electronics limited to specific hilts?🤔
You can install anything you want in any saber if you get the right person to do it.
Saberforge only offers proffie in their eco hilts with pre installed electronics from China.
All other hilts saberforge will install with Golden or First Harvest Sound Boards.
@@GrayPaladin ok I can deal with that, follow up question. Do you have anything that explains what first and golden harvest are?
@@owlvexarts First Harvest
ruclips.net/video/bHc_aPaKG7E/видео.htmlsi=1pJ2fcPNM508ERz2
@@owlvexarts Golden Harvest. Use the timestamps to jump to the core.
ruclips.net/video/BxxBh1fbdTU/видео.htmlsi=JG_Qau1s8-hQ8y9t
How do you rate the neopixel of saberforge? Is it good or bad? Im thinking of getting one sometime soon 🤔
I don't know yet. I ordered a neopixel count in June, but it hasn't shipped yet
@@GrayPaladin the one I'm thinking of is the Cleric Wrapped that they just showed off the other day
@@GrayPaladin I never had a saberforge saber, I had an ultrasaber which is nice but I'm ready for an upgrade if sbaerforge is worthy
@@virtualbison6928 Saberforge is a definite upgrade from Ultrasabers. The hilts are really nice and durable. I have experience with Golden harvest and that is a great sound board. As far as Saberforge's install quality of the GHv3, I'm not sure yet but I've seen positive reviews thus far.
@@GrayPaladin Ultrasabers Spectre is the first and only custom lightsaber I own, purchased it last year on May 4th got it 2 weeks later it was great at the time, but now seeing the improvements from saberforge is what making me to give them a try
My saberforge experience is up in smoke. I purchased a saber from their website and I made an error on option feature. I requested cancellation with full refund. It’s been 15 days I haven’t received any confirmation of my request. Still haven’t refunded my money.
Keep you viewers posted.
Sorry to hear that. Saberforge's customer service is slow and terrible. If there was one aspect I could change for the company, it would be that.
@@GrayPaladin, hi! Good News! They refunded my money yesterday. Will I ever shop from them again? Yes! Will give them another chance. Thank you for responding my post.
May the force always be with you!
So, are the blades detachable? or if i get 1 with a blade does it stay on forever? if detachable is it simple or complex?
All blades are detachable and easy to do.
@@GrayPaladin Do you know if saberforge does black friday deals (at least in the past)? Was looking at an eco saber, wondering if i should wait a few weeks or just go ahead and order to hope to get it for christmas
@@retttixgaming4273 They may have a black Friday deal, but it's usually not savings in cost. It's more like promotions like free blade plug or saber stand. Something like that. Eco sabers never have any kind of sale because they're already a good deal.
@@GrayPaladin Appreciate the quick replies! Thank you very much
I bought from saber-forge once and to be honest I really was not satisfied. The electronic in my saber were shit and I sent it back twice and both times they crapped out after a week. It’s been awhile though and I’m learning how to repair my saber (even though I don’t know how to work with electronics.) but if anyone has any suggestions or advise please reply I really could use the help.
As I said in the video, sabercore 3.0 has many flaws. All eco saber electronics come from LGT in China. Those electronics crap out all the time no matter what company you get it from. Their new Golden Harvest electronics are very good.
I do my own saber installs too. Check my installation playlist for tutorials on wiring a saber.
@@GrayPaladin that was really fast, i’ll check that playlist out, So far my project I stripped everything out of my hilt, I don’t plan on trying to salvage anything, I know I want to try to make it a more simple interior because mine was just cluttered with wires it was a pain in the ass to get The speaker out. my college has a workshop in there with a lot of stuff that could come in handy. I also joined our engineering club Just to meet people so some of those people might have some knowledge about that as well. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
My Bastion Eco-Saber I just got (Thursday10/14/21) is having the battery Tab issue 🔋AFTER A DAY? Anybody else have issues soon after getting theirs (Eco-Sabers by Saberforge in general)?
I`d still recommend it though. issues aside GEN-5 rocks! Dude the rainbow slider great addition.
Well the electronics are LGT SaberStudio. Saberforge provides the hilt then all electronics and assembly is done by LGT. I have had a lot of issues with LGT electronics. They just aren't reliable and you get what you pay for, but like you said I still recommend the eco sabers.
my only issue is the prices, most things i can afford from saberforge are nothing more than there cheapest
I know what you mean. Especially now because there are more affordable options elsewhere that give you the same thing features.
@@GrayPaladin exactly, i found a reliable aliexpress store that can send me a high quality machined 2 button sn-pixel v4 lightsaber with internal usb-c charger and 36 inch neopixel blade for 150 quid using a "welcome deal" (about 100 quid off and then i can get another 8 quid off with store coupons) and that was found by barely trying
edit: i think finding quality like that comes from being a cheapskate, i learned to find the best bang for the buck
@@GrayPaladin also, alot of affordable options have smooth swing and sounds as a standard base model, the saber forge base model is just a baselit with no sound at all, and costs more than the others with less of the features
how is the durability of the aprentice saber blades?
All the blades are the same for every tier. V4 infinity heavy grade blade, very strong.
Which type of saber is best for full contact?
Any one that's not thin neck, neopixel or with claws.
Are they duel worthy?
Most, yes. Depends on the hilt. The thin necks are not.
Initiate is empty, warrior it basically a stunt saber
Correct. I didn't make a note in the description.
What is the wait time for ordering an empty hilts from them?
@@kle2217 Their website lists shipping times in the description of each saber.
@@GrayPaladin I know, but I assume it’s usually for a fully built light and sound saber. I just can’t to order the hilt by itself either no electronics. I’ve heard bad things about their customer service with no communication and awful wait times of up to two to three months or more for your sable to arrive.
@@kle2217 It depends on the saber. Some take more time than others, plus where your order sits in the queue.
Empties generally ship within a week if they have the stock. ASP parts, though empty, may take a lot longer.
@@GrayPaladin Ok, thanks for the info. I was going to order a few empty hilts, but I’m still debating on whether to order or not.
@@kle2217 Empties are worth it because I like Saberforge hilts and every empty I've ordered I got within 2 weeks.
dudes got a whole life time worth of waiting time in shipping infront of him aahah
😂 Probably
@@GrayPaladin i hate waiting man its been a month n ive got ages to go :(
@@TheGreekposeidon Yeah it sucks. I've been waiting over 3 months for my Count Mk2 and still no word.
How do I see what gen it is? I’m on their website and see no indicator
There isn't that I know of.
@@GrayPaladin how’d u know which gen yours were?
@@thewyit4222 because I bought mine on release when the gen was advertised. Once the main page banner is taken down there is no labeling of the gen.
@@GrayPaladin oh ok thanks
Im a GHV3 fan boiiiii
Golden harvest is a great board that does a lot and it's cheaper than crystal focus and Proffie.
@@GrayPaladin agreed. I have only done two builds. Hoping to do another soon. I like all the new saberforge ASP stuff that's coming in Chrome now.
@@jastrov I have an ASP I still need to install. They have a lot of options to suit you're fancy on parts.
Hello friend.
Can anyone offer help? I ordered a SaberForge light saber and it arrived defective. SaberForge is not responding to my emails and they do not provide a contact number. Has this happened to anyone else? I did initially receive a reply from a Morgan S. But nothing since then and even her email does not include a phone contact. I can't believe these people can't perform the most basic function that they were hired to do.
How much time passed between responses? As I stated in the video, responses less than a week are rare. What was your order? If it was an eco saber it was assembled in China.
@@GrayPaladin It was an MK3 with Champion electronics. My inquiry began 2 weeks ago. My last response was last week.
@@watchingthecrazyworld7761 Well that's a saber that should have gotten thorough quality control. Saberforge still has a reputation to repair and based on others' experiences, saberforge will take care of you... eventually. Response time is extremely slow because their work load and inquiries are extremely high. Stay on them because you deserve to enjoy what you paid for.
Still no reply. I'm disappointed, I have $467 and over 5 months and I can't even tell that they care. 🙄
@@watchingthecrazyworld7761 You only said it was defective. What is wrong with the saber?
I'm sorry but you need to learn the difference between cannon and prequel, because they are extremely different
Sorry, but cannon is an artillery weapon and canon is anything accepted in the main Star Wars Storyline which includes prequel.
In case you're still confused.
Canon: established or agreed-upon constraints governing the background narrative, setting, storyline, characters, etc., in a particular fictional world.
Cannon: a mounted gun for firing heavy projectiles; a gun, howitzer, or mortar.
"because they are extremely different"