I have nothing but the utmost respect for Mr. Zinn. My only wish is that there where more Americans that followed his succinct and revealing historical literature. I would have loved to have seen him in person, yet I am glad that You Tube has so much of his video appearances. We must organize if we ever hope to abolish this Colonialist war mongering autocracy cloaked within the guise of democracy and justice.
Dude, I absolutle agree. The only thing that bugged me, when he said that its a "no-no situation" to say, that Poland should be given up to Germany. He said it, as if rest of the Europe actually did something, when Hitler invaded Poland, which in fact they just sat on their asses.
An example of what you are saying was the agreement the British had with the Polish Fighter pilots. They were sort of betrayed when Poland was turned over to the Russian's.
True, but if you listened carefully he said 'no - not appeasement, but resistance, guerilla warfare, sabotage, internal dissent.' Yes, this is difficult (especially at the beginning), but the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto rose up twice during the Nazi occupation of Poland. The Italians rose up and hung Mussolini (communist partisans captured him) by meat hooks in the city of Milan where his corpse was mutilated by angry citizens. Resistance is possible, difficult, but possible (takes longer to)
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I miss Howard's wisdom. Who can fill his shoes? Please, if you're out there, let's get back to the radical notion of a widely spread-out, decentralized society of peaceful citizens, aligned by our own agreements with each other and not enslaved by predatory, greedy warmongers.
Strictly speaking the governor general in the stead (place) of the Queen is the head of state. Fine point I suppose but queen Liz has no power whatsoever in Canada. The "old " constirution which was a collection of Acts such as the BNA Act was superceded by the "Repatriated" constitution in Trudeau times.
...in regards to the Revolutionary War....what about the Loyalists?....they were politically cleansed (older version of ethnic cleansing).....do any Yanks remember that?
I doubt that being a World War II veteran gives Zinn a pass for saying the Nazis should have won. His arguments against World War II are lame. If Zinn is against the Civil War, then he shouldn't have praised the abolitionists, as there wouldn't have been a war without antislavery activism.
Whoever was on the camera couldn't keep his or her hands off the focusing ring. The result is a good audio clip but a poor video clip, unpleasant to watch.
Humanity is at a threshold to implore within, not without. We can't justify outcomes with means. How many roads must a man walk down before they call him a man? As painful as Japanese and Germans initiated and inflicted pain on innocent Chinese and Jewish victims, the only effect violence begets is violence. Unless we realize there are no distinctions among races, genders, religions, geography and idealism but just Human's natures, help or hurtful, and teach our next generations about it, the 20th century atrocities will repeat itself. There may be changing of guards, but if we don't start at ourselves and our next generations, what Gandhi/Mandela shown would just be shrugged off as incidental, not essential. Use modern physicist term, unless we raise our vibrations and frequencies, we are just similar to the warlords. I can't wait till we are identified as HM40.7127° N, 74.0059° W 102020151448 (Human Male date time) instead of the egoic ID starting from a religious name, a race last name, a race, a country. There are just too many boxes to cover up and identify our false self with. Unless we implode psychologically, honest with ourselves and destroy the ego, humanity will not realize the brilliance of wisdom within us where hearts and minds merge. Peace, not anti-war.
@7:40 Zinn says his intent for doing history is "not to give you an accurate picture of the past" He is an activist. Not a scholar He thinks he is 'edgy' for pointing out that there isn't critical thinking involved in an 8th grade history class.
Outstanding. Thank you so very much for posting this. I miss Zinn so much, but at least we still have talks like this and his books and works.
I have nothing but the utmost respect for Mr. Zinn. My only wish is that there where more Americans that followed his succinct and revealing historical literature. I would have loved to have seen him in person, yet I am glad that You Tube has so much of his video appearances. We must organize if we ever hope to abolish this Colonialist war mongering autocracy cloaked within the guise of democracy and justice.
Howard Zinn, a man, a special man, a man for all seasons ,RIP
All we have left is Prof.Chomsky.
Chris Hedges is good. Richard Wolff is also good.
True!
Read Chris Harman. :-)
I'm said no one noticed the "left" pun in :
All we have *left* is Prof.Chomsky.
@@AizwellOfficial Robert Paul Wolff is certainly who we have left.
Such a moral, wise analysis. Zinn was a great man.
Brilliant man and powerful arguments to cut the bullshit.
As the man said: let's organize!
Fascinating , great presentation 👏
Nothing but respect for Mr.Zinn. RIP.
Brilliant! Who we could be to learn from him.
Thank you !
R.I.P. Brother
Wonderful !
Dude, I absolutle agree. The only thing that bugged me, when he said that its a "no-no situation" to say, that Poland should be given up to Germany. He said it, as if rest of the Europe actually did something, when Hitler invaded Poland, which in fact they just sat on their asses.
One of the worlds great historians who would have been much better known had his views not been so much at odds with the ruling elites.
Great lecture I would have loved more Q&A, I liked him responding to the guy near the end
We miss Howard Zinn greatly and don't even know it
An example of what you are saying was the agreement the British had with the Polish Fighter pilots. They were sort of betrayed when Poland was turned over to the Russian's.
great vid
" Could we have won independence from England in a different way?" Canada did.
How can Mr. Zinn have died on January 27, 2009 if this was filmed September 13, 2009?!
I'll second that, Jabbermocky!
@fruitsofnews Robert Fisk doesn't really address as broad issues but I've always found his analysis great.
True, but if you listened carefully he said 'no - not appeasement, but resistance, guerilla warfare, sabotage, internal dissent.' Yes, this is difficult (especially at the beginning), but the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto rose up twice during the Nazi occupation of Poland. The Italians rose up and hung Mussolini (communist partisans captured him) by meat hooks in the city of Milan where his corpse was
mutilated by angry citizens. Resistance is possible, difficult, but possible (takes longer to)
The ignorance evident in reffering only to victor's version of history is very discouraging in most of the comments here.
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huh... now i know...
queen Liz is still head of state of Canada, which is still a monarchy....not quite so independent is it
a bit sad that you can't see any younger folk in the audience
Wellfleet, and the Cape has an older population. Young folks come in the summer.
We went to war to save plucky Poland and in the end gave it to Stalin's Russia. Smart move eh?
“In the end” ignores the fact that Stalin split Poland in 1939.
This war was avoidable but international finance had different ideas
You could say the same thing about the US....
of course the argument will always be around the word key word "needless".
What song is that on the intro?
I miss Howard's wisdom. Who can fill his shoes? Please, if you're out there, let's get back to the radical notion of a widely spread-out, decentralized society of peaceful citizens, aligned by our own agreements with each other and not enslaved by predatory, greedy warmongers.
Strictly speaking the governor general in the stead (place) of the Queen is the head of state. Fine point I suppose but queen Liz has no power whatsoever in Canada. The "old " constirution which was a collection of Acts such as the BNA Act was superceded by the "Repatriated" constitution in Trudeau times.
@whereismybailouttv I do the same thing.
...in regards to the Revolutionary War....what about the Loyalists?....they were politically cleansed (older version of ethnic cleansing).....do any Yanks remember that?
I doubt that being a World War II veteran gives Zinn a pass for saying the Nazis should have won. His arguments against World War II are lame. If Zinn is against the Civil War, then he shouldn't have praised the abolitionists, as there wouldn't have been a war without antislavery activism.
MrAcarine
That is a joke. Slavery, nor antislavery, started the civil war. A scapegoat is all it was. Just another tool to lead the masses.
+Wyatt Bottorff Just let it go dude, you've lost...
sound on these vids is terrible
Whoever was on the camera couldn't keep his or her hands off the focusing ring. The result is a good audio clip but a poor video clip, unpleasant to watch.
+Goedelite Kurt autofocus!!
Humanity is at a threshold to implore within, not without. We can't justify outcomes with means. How many roads must a man walk down before they call him a man? As painful as Japanese and Germans initiated and inflicted pain on innocent Chinese and Jewish victims, the only effect violence begets is violence. Unless we realize there are no distinctions among races, genders, religions, geography and idealism but just Human's natures, help or hurtful, and teach our next generations about it, the 20th century atrocities will repeat itself. There may be changing of guards, but if we don't start at ourselves and our next generations, what Gandhi/Mandela shown would just be shrugged off as incidental, not essential. Use modern physicist term, unless we raise our vibrations and frequencies, we are just similar to the warlords. I can't wait till we are identified as HM40.7127° N, 74.0059° W 102020151448 (Human Male date time) instead of the egoic ID starting from a religious name, a race last name, a race, a country. There are just too many boxes to cover up and identify our false self with. Unless we implode psychologically, honest with ourselves and destroy the ego, humanity will not realize the brilliance of wisdom within us where hearts and minds merge. Peace, not anti-war.
@7:40 Zinn says his intent for doing history is "not to give you an accurate picture of the past"
He is an activist. Not a scholar
He thinks he is 'edgy' for pointing out that there isn't critical thinking involved in an 8th grade history class.
You totally misrepresent the quotation lol