Can Capoeira Ginga Be Used For Self Defense?
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- Today I have finally tried out something that I have always wanted to do!
Coach Sule is very knowledgeable in many different martial art systems, and has been teaching self defense and health defense techniques of Capoeira for many years!
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That leg tripping takedown was cool!
It made me think of Ryan Hall's diving entries into the 50/50 position in BJJ.
If you wanna hear something cool ask him about Capoeira de Angola and Capoeira Regional, the "rival styles"... it gets wild!
If you showed this video to a silat guy, they would get the concept immediately, its very similar... Although the end solution would slightly be different, but the concept is similar.
Just a side note, you gotta see "Mestre Muralha" (Master Big Wall) in action! Its mind blowing!
I sparred with a capoiera guy back when I was 16. I'd been doing judo and boxing and considered myself well-rounded, but I had absolutely no idea how to deal with his mobility at the time and he completely trashed me, multiple times. From personal experience, it's hella effective. Especially when you, as I later learned he did, mix it with BJJ.
I started capoeira about one and a half year ago, already had experience in jujutsu and judo since then, and i instantly realized "i have no idea as to what to do here"
You see this in pro fighters too, one of my favorite fighters, marcus aurelio uses capoeira and bjj.
There's a great clip where he pulls off an amazing meia lua de compasso and his opponent has no idea as to what to do, instantly getting knocked out as well.
makes sense. both styles are from brazil
@@pirateslifeforme7158 i mean, both are from Brazil but they have non Brazilian roots. Specially BJJ, which at first was just Kosen Judo lol
@@jestfullgremblim8002 its makes sense Brazil have almost no things that have roots here, you can say our people are a mix of cultures and countries, i know that other places have that too, but here we chose to integrate not to develop our own culture, so you can say almost every thing that is considered Brazilian came from another culture.
@@RotivOsnofa yeah that's about right
This is why I wanna learn Capoeira… The mobility is so fluent and the moves are unpredictable… Love it ✊🏾🔥✊🏾🔥
"“Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup.
Love capoeira thinking about mixing it with bjj
@@anthonyburns2175 go for it… I’m gonna do the same with taekwondo
Hi, greeting from Brasil. the most important thing about capoeira is learn how to do ginga properly. Ginga is a manifestation from your very soul. Then you can apply the kicks from the ginga and move correctly.
@@martinsdesign7356 I appreciate this advice
I did capoeira for a while and watched a lot of capoeira videos, and the thing I learned the most is that it all depends on the rhythm. Your movements are all about keeping a certain rhythm and balance, which makes you more flexible
I have practicioned capoeira for a long time and I love that someone shows the useful elements of my martial art. Even gave me a lot of perspective on my capoeira game.
Thank you for the content!
Very cool. Its interesting to contrast with Wing Chun in that you can see that one was built for open rural spaces and the other was built for tight urban spaces.
I'd mix the ginga with a good frame for take down defense. Like a combination pivot and sprawl.
Kind of depends on what capoeira you practice, Regional is very space control like and uses wide spaces, you stay most of the time out of reach and is super dynamic. While Angola is more close combat, tempo changing, vicious and played in small spaces. The moste used type of play is the jogo de dentro and the roda can be small enough to only have place for two people playing low.
So in capoeira it depends on who is doing it, like they say, it was used by slaves running away in forests and you can’t chose the distances between the trees, rocks etc.
Capoeira is played in a circle, so moving to the side and spatial awareness become second nature.
Probably the most convincing explanation of capoeira. That was really cool to see. Movement is big in fights, so Capoeira being all about staying in constant motion is really nice.
Coach Sule is an amazing instructor!
it has amazing mobility for the stand up, im most impressed with the mobility transition from the ground to standing, and standing to the ground. i havent met another martial art with this capability.
You picked it up crazy quick! Awesome to see both your perspectives; very inspiring, very cool stuff indeed!
Original name for capoeira is Engolo. It's origins came from Angola. A lot of the Afro Brazilian are descendants from Angola(slavery from Portugal). Straight to the point, I do find capoeira effective, depending on the user. From the ginga position, it's very lethal; despite employing all the of the hand and kicking technique's standing up using ginga footwork, you can snap somebody kneecap with one sweeping technique alone. It is a warrior's art that came from tribal tradition. With capoeira alone? You can fight with your hands handcuff behind your back or front. African slave's disguise it as a dance to fool their slave owner's. Without the ginga, capoeira will be in its rawest form. But, the ginga is a representation of Afro Brazilian culture and martial contribution. Fun fact, most soccer players that where capoeiratist employ the ginga footwork in the soccer field. Soccer legends like Pel'e amongst others learned and adapted the *Ginga* into their footwork and became legends because of it.
No Brasil existe uma luta/dança indígena quase perdida chamada Xondaro .. acredito q possa ter havido um casamento do Engolo com o Xondaro .. não quero ofender seu ponto ..mas não acredito numa raiz única da Capoeira ..paz
This is Wrong. Engolo was one from many ancient fights who contribuited to capoeira. capoeira was created in Brasil mixing moves from many african and indigenan sistems like Xondaro and portuguese contribuited too. From portuguese they inherit the Straigh razor the stick fight and knife fight sistems, also language too.
Crazy you put the martial art of my country lol for those who don't know capoeira and a martial art that was fórmely disguised as dance in the past but today not much and the blows are deadly. 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷😎
So many cool techniques In Capoeira!🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
I would love to see them spar like it was two respectful dojo masters testing their skills
It would be very interesting to do a capoeira fight with Coach Sule!
That "teach it like a triangle" suggestion from Coach Sule is one reason that on the set of "Only The Strong", I was able to immediately understand and duplicate the Ginga movement... Hint? Kali and Silat training as Sifu Kevin realised towards the end...
Yes sir!! It’s very interesting and much like Kali and Silat!
great video, I've been doing capoeira for 23 years now and I think the freedom inside the art is amazing. Mestre Bimba used karate kicks, judo throwdowns, and jujitsu. I started with tea kwon do when I was six and from my 10th added silat to it. When I was 19 I discovered capoeira and have been doing it ever since. Now that I live in Thailand I also train Muay Boran> the best thing is that I can implement all the other techniques in capoeira, which will make my game stronger. Love and peace bro axe keep up the videos
As a long time practitioner of Wing Chun, FMA and Capoeira (which btw there is grappling in Capoeira) it surely compliments working efficiently being comfortable using both sides without hesitation in reaction. Everyone should add Capoeira to their studies. Thank you Sifu for researching on this ‘absorbing what is useful’ method. All the best
Pronouncing it "Cap-a-rella" is so adorable it fills me with feels! 🥰🥰
I can say... capoeira is easy to learn. More than you think. It's very complex, it's true, but the way you learn make the moviments become a habit, become natural and the secret is the ginga. Everything comes from it and you start to make it natural. It's like what Bruce lee said. "To be like wather", to be fluid like wather.
Coach Sule has incredible foot-dexterity. his excellent heel-toe-heel pivots on the martello are natural and easy looking, so you know he's trained and studied hard!
One of the most underrated styles of combat around.
Applicable in every range.
Good stuff. I didn't want it to end. Now I will wait for pt 2.
These are kind of the same things that inwas taught in the few Capoeira classes that i attended. I always add a side kick when i do the side "scape" from the ginga, works wonders
Afrikan Combat at it's finest! Thanks for the upload!
Yeah! I'm also pretty sure that it comes from N'golo
Capoeira has a lot similarities with Harimau silat. The level and quality of any practitioner is they imagination and intellect will allow. The really experienced, talented are fluid and tricky.
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Crazy how quick Kevin gets this, my goodness! Excellent teaching as well; just giggling at how perfectly thought out Capoeria is, its incredible!
"Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless, and add what is specifically your own." - Bruce Lee
ALL HAIL
LEE JUN FAN,
People always quoting Bruce is every martial arts video lol
Haha that’s funny because there is a Capoeira Mestre who says: If I see something that I like and corresponds well to my capoeira, I take it with my right hand and put it in my pocket. And if I see something I don’t really like and doesn’t match my capoeira, I take it in my left hand… and put it in my left pocket.
All to say that yes, there are very usefull things to learn, but sometimes, the thing you found not usefull could be the difference between life and death, so it doesn’t cost you to learn it to and keep it in a part of your mind
Great video again mr Kevin! More with this guy please! :)
Stay tuned for part 2 this week!
@@KevinLeeVlog It will be my pleasure.
I have some old injuries wich makes it hard to fight but capoeira looks fun and more chill than anything. :)
You are a wondeful teacher and a true Capoeirista master for sure; much respect and all appreciation for the invaluable information! Mind expanding stuff man!
Great job guys, really enjoyed the content.
You need to watch the 1993 movie “Only the Strong”. It was a popular movie when I was a kid and all about Capoeira. Everyone was doing the Ginga after that lol.
@The Tide Rises haha I totally can hear the song too. The whole movie is actually on RUclips.
That's one I love too Mark Dacascos was great there.
This is so cool. I wished we had more schools for brazilian martial arts around here.
I think the boxer Emanuel Agustus is a very good example how Capoiera footwork can be very useful.
Considering that you do what you have practiced, Capoeira has one fundamental that is really useful for self defense, and not many martial arts addresses: the concept of “malandragem “, or roughly translating “trickery “, that is, the ability to attack in the most unexpected moments, where you are actively acting nice, or if you don’t want to fight…this is usually performed in the roda by more experienced capoeiristas to the less experienced ones, as doing it the other way around is considered very disrespectful, and can lead to a escalation…in any case, it teaches you either to be sneaky and/or to be attacked at any time, which is a great skill to have
One of the most terrifying guys on the mat at the local Gracie barra I train at is the local capoeira professor. His fitness and flexibility is incredible and the fluidity of his movements are also insane. personally from what ive been told from some of the Brazilians I train with (live in a college town in the uk) a lot don't just train Capoeira its Capoeira alongside BJJ or Luta Livre. the instructor I mentioned, you see him doing Capoeira warm ups at BJJ tournaments.
The thing is, capoeira isn’t a precise martial art like karate, boxing etc. wich have a set of rules of what is and isn’t.
Everyone has it’s own form and moves they use, incorporates in it depending on their background. It has always been that way, like the high kicks come from asian martial arts that some capoeristas incorporated and passed down do others for exemple :)
Fantastic video. The leg sweep definitely reminds me of silat. I look forward to part 2.
God damn, I Love this fundamental foundation instruction!!
Can't wait for part 2!!
Thanks!!
I really liked this and was talking to my Muay Thai coach about how the wider stances here were similar to the Muay Thai stances. It turns out that he trained in jiu jitsu and capoeira in Brazil so now I'm learning Capoeira in addition to Muay Thai. I really like his extremely fast exits/entries and angle changes. I've always had the frame of mind that "footwork and breathing wins fights" and Capoeira has some fantastic footwork!
There is a misconception about capoeira about what it is and is not because we love to put things in clear definitions :)
I hear a lot of people talking about capoeira moves like capoeira is like that, while the truth is more that there are some moves that you see only used in capoeira (even thought there is a karate style that uses a lot of capoeira acrobatic moves), but capoeira uses a lot of movements from other disciplines, like those kicks you talked about witch got added by capoeristas after seing foreign martial arts, maybe even from Muay Thai itself.
There is no ristriction or rules in capoeira about what move is capoeira and what isn’t, it only depends on the capoerista and his background, some use grappling, some chokes etc. 😁
excellent demo
Looks amazingly similar to the footwork in FIMA
Dang, I know I'm dating myself, but my first exposure to Capoeira was watching a very young Mark Dacascos in the movie "Only the Strong".
Wow this is awesome :D
there are so many opportunities in every capoeria move for counter and strikes. I love playing in capoeria and the defense part is so much quicker with more aggressive Ginga.
What I observe here, when one compares you for example to Sensei Seth or Hard2Hurt, is that your Wing Chun training (maybe that holds true for Wushu in general) seem to provide you with all the range of motion and flexibility to incorporate new maneuvers efficiently in a short time, at least regarding your physique. Mental conditioning of course is a different thing: only because you are able to use a maneuver, will not give you the awareness when it is good to use or the readiness of repititional training. Yet, apart of discussions about actual usefulness of different styles, this set of solid and holistic „basic work“ seems to be a remarkable trait provided by training within Wushu tradition.
He's a good teacher and has Nice moves i did not see and i have some time in Capoeira.
I love this channel and I don't even do martial arts, more just a fan.
Thank you for your support!!!
I want more of this. I like it.
Wonderful!
Thanks to this video I am now a much better dancer :)
Wow ,awesome
I took a pic of the time when he put the foot on Kevin, changed to B&W and wrote it:"Bruce Lee and Kareem Abdul Jabbar, circa 1968".
Mestre X.Gautier used to go to Xifu Fongs for seminars long ago but he is the pioneer of the tactical form of capoeira.
Awesome
Part 2 You Sifu Kevin vs Sensei Seth in a friendly match in THE CIRCLE
those leg sweeps were clean! and mechanically simple . but very risky lol
Have you or this guy had a chance to meet Lateef Crowder since he is the number one Capoeira dude in movies usually? He was born and raised in a big Capoeira city I have heard.
Jinga is commonly called zoning in Filipino arts…the main difference being jinga constantly zones with every step
Beautiful demonstration of capoeira! And that with showing barely more than the very basics.
Lateef Crowder allegedly did the motion capture for Eddy Gordo. I've been trying to figure out how to incorporate sumo into boxing
Suli!!!
I used to be a big fan of capoiera but something Rhamsey Duey said about it being an incomplete system and capoeira needing grappling as a complimentary technique really got me thinking. How much of the practices were lost to time and translation?
That’s a good point! I think as individual practitioners, we can help ourselves to improve better by adding more elements into our training.
Well truth of matter, the only system that I think that is truly complete S.S.B.D taught Maul Mornie, because his system has Weapon, Striking And Grappling skills.
I did capoeira for 20 years (until my 2nd daughter was born) and as someone who also did a bit of MMA, i find capoeira seriously lacking in many aspects as a martial art, but also super effective in its kicks. But thats about it.
I had superior kicks to anyone in the MMA class, except the other guys who did capoeira as well. But thats to be expected, since capoeira is almost all kicks.
Also, in capoeira you train in the same kicks and moves for both sides equally, so the capoeiristas in the MMA class where the only ones not only with really good kicks, but with almost equal control with both legs. A pretty decent advantage.
The ginga is cool, but its effective mostly inside of a capoeira game. Against another martial art its a disadvantage. In between the steps there is a transition of balance and one leg is in the air. Its a super vulnerable moment that happens twice in every 'step'. A big disadvantage.
Also, the hands position leaves a lot of opennings to the ribs. (The forward arm is supposed to protect the chin, but you cant block a punch with it, nor a kick and not attacks to the ribs. Not well, i think.)
So when i did MMA i never ever did a ginga.
Inside the capoeira sport, all of the ginga philosophy makes perfect sense - it transitions well from kicks to acrobatics, from ground to upper movements, it masks a lot of moves inside a constant movement of the entire body etc. But thats because there are almost no punches, grabs, low kicks, mid kicks, etc. You dont need a perfect balance when the fastest attacks are forbidden in the jogo (game).
But its a super fun sport none the less.
Btw, kevin - your grasping of the capoeira moves seems super fast. I have trained my people in my day and you seems like a natural.
Capoeira is, coordinately really tough. Pretty unintuitive in many aspects.
The concept of 'keep it simple, stupid' was completely unknown to the africans who created capoeira.
You should do more capoeira videos. You seem to have a knack to it.
IMO, there is no truly "complete" system, as every system has stuff unique to it that works. The closest to a complete system in my mind would be JKD with its "use what works" mentality. Or just a good MMA training regimen, which would teach you BJJ, kicking, striking, boxing, etc. Obviously that would leave out weapons, though ;)
@@silverfireVRgaming i tend to think that whatever people use in MMA is whats most effective. Otherwise, they wouldnt use it.
But as a martial art, i dont find capoeira effective. I never practiced it to know to fight.
Its a great sport and a fun game that blends martial arts acrobatics, dancing, playing with men, women, children and older people, all together as equal, music... Its a fantastic sport.
Just not as effective to beating people up. :)
Indeed
I get the feeling that the art depends on people of his build to use it correctly, The reach mattering more than the technique Also looks like you can get gassed really quick,,, Also not to just badmouth it but it doesnt look very stable when pushed .... Like TKD is weak against being pushed Very different from my own boxing and WC backround Also looks very weak against WC stop kick But very cool to learn something new even if I doubt its effectiveness
You should link up with mestre X.Gautier from Battleginga platform (I think I spelled correctly)
My mind plays on a 50-50 chance whenever I see ginga, either Eddy´s stage song from Tekken3 or Paraná é
I love capoeira as a fan, I also love the balisong/butterfly knife as a collector.
However I do believe both of them fall into the same category when it comes to combat.. Which is less than other "weapons".
For me both of them are an art, but both of them have too many flaws to be "used legit" and both in the same way.
They both rely on confusion, insecurity and flashing really.
But as with anything, the more skill(especially "flashy skill") something requires the more room for error and room for error In this case can directly equate to defeat or even death. 😅
Also, I really do love capoeira I applause everyone who practice and get good at it, but it's more of a battle dance with alot of big, actually quite predictable movements.
Also, every time you life one foot from the ground you are effectively incapacitated from moving while the other foot is in the air, now if you do that in a very obvious rhythm with big movements.. It's less then ideal 😅
Wow, you must be seriously good to find capoeira predictable while the thing that is said by martial artist is that the capoeria kicks are Impredictable.
I would’ve said that it’s biggest flaw is that you need a lot of stamina because it’s very tiresome
As for the big flashy movements, it depends on who you’re facing and what kind of capoeira he’s been practicing, in angola for example the catwheel is small with the legs on the chest and you play usually in close combat, with a lower stance, a lot of sweeps, hands ready to grab, head buts etc.
That said, there are faster ways to learn how to fight then capoeira, mostly because there are so many things to learn in it like the different kinds of plays or the roda, that unless you find a teacher who will learn you specially how to fight against non capoeira practitioners, it’ll take time or you will have to learn by yourself. (I say learn fight against non capoeira practitioners because capoeira is supposed to be elusif and free and understanding the thought of the movements behind other martial arts would help to keep that form you see in capoeira plays, like some Mestre says, a capoeira practitioner is supposed to be like a snake and strike when there’s an actual opening, not charge like a bull!)
I've seen an actual street fight of capoeira against Jiu-Jitsu and unfortunately she lacked grappling techniques where they the other female didn't... Am not saying they don't have grappling skills but she didn't . And unfortunately 75% of street fights that last past the first flurry of punches go to the ground so I don't know personally I think it's good exercise but I wouldn't train on that or rely on it on anybody who actually has been trained.
bro, the BAD portuguese translation from youtube says "caprila" at capoeira and "cab*ré" from IDK
Everyone can defend themselves, even non martial artists.
Yo kevin what is your height
Being a martial arts aficionado more than a practioner, I have a greater understanding and love for this system after viewing this. The capoeraoist explained his art in the basic yet most understandable way. Due to my challenges in life now, I might not be able to jinga but apply the principles of this beautiful art to life in general.
Thank you and hope everything is well with you!
It sure can be
You sometimes make me feel u can do any martial art.
only the strong was my introduction
That dancingart seems more usefull than Tai Chi ..!
a ginga para defesa pessoal esta totalmente errada, a guarda deve ser colada na cara com o cotovelo na altura do nariz e o outro braço protegendo as costelas, e a base tem q ser o mais baixa e larga possivel para uma movimentação e chutes estaveis!
i'm more interested about your ONE shirt than the video
The ginga should be taught to all grapplers.
remember, the base of Jinga is a triangle, the base of JENGA is 3 blocks...
It looks like a back lunge.
TLDR; You can't
That sad berimbau, lying there, wanting to be played.
capoeira having west african roots you will realize that all the artforms born from the diaspora are based on self expression and flow.. Hip hop . jazz blues..etc. You cannot teach something that is inherintly formless. You can immitate some one elses movements. But you cannot teach culture. Capoeira has become like that video with that white lady teaching hip hop and how to properlly dress hip hop..how to have the hip hop.attitude.. This os exactly like that. Capoeira is a game. It wasnt meant to be used to fight. It was meant to enrich the people whos culture and heritage was taken away from them just as their bodies was taken away from their homes.. As you see money is still being made off of. The pain of slavery and the stealing amd appropiation of african culture.
Saying its brazilian is saying yhey still own those africans and their culture..
Change the word " devolped " to "stolen"
As long as you actually trained to fight and spar full contact and distinguish between the game/jogo dance/ballet and fight/luta train bjj wrestling and some boxing and MT Capoeira is just as useful but you got to mix it up baby. I’m a capoeirista meu nome pernalonga Omulu Capoeira group
Ginga has no business in a one on one fight. Every Capoeirista knows you can win with 1-3 blows. Headbutt knee strike and body slam
I have been doing capoeira for almost a year and I think teaching here was great, especially the takedowns!
What kind of capoeira do you practice? :)
@@leoronnet166 Capoeira Regional