-as a music PC. I mean... If you're using something for the sole purpose of a singular job, then of course it'll be just fine. But I doubt it works well at as all as a day to day computer. 768mb of RAM? My machines use anywhere from 3-5gb just doing basic day to day stuff.
Isaac Koonce Yes I like all version of Linux because Linux is not prepritary and all you have to do is use command sudo apt install name of program and it automaticly finds newest compatible version.
The only cause of the slowness on this Inspiron is lack of memory. Win 7 takes up 1.1 Gigs idling, and this system has just 1.25, that means everything is being swapped between the hard drive and memory. Win 7 will run decently on a Pentium 4 with 4 gigs of memory. which IS available for this series.
I'm watching this video on my ol' pc running Windows 2000 Professional With No Service Pack, so old computers from THE 90's can still be used today fine!
well.. to give life to old machines, just add SSD and more RAM. It will speed things up a lot. Also, when using Windows, i use FolderChanger to increase my productivity overall, just to speed up my workflow as well. You will find it if you google for "folderchanger"
Yeah, you have to use an adapter with a 1.8" SSD, and my experience with those things is that between the adapter and the slow speed of the PATA controller, you don't gain any performance.
Im still using my old computer from 2006 as a guinea pig, its a P4 HT 641@ 3.2ghz with 4 gb ddr2 ram, I have windows 10 on it to see if I like it, handles it perty good. I remember with XP 32bit it was blazing fast.
I just bought an HP computer from 2005 that's rocking an AMD Athlon 3200+, theoretically one of the oldest CPUs that can run Windows 10. I plan to make a video on that, so stay tuned!
legosavantfun An Athlon 3200+ wasn't actually 3.2ghz, I think from memory it was 2ghz or thereabouts. I have an old Toshiba from 2003 with a 3ghz P4 in it, that was an absolute beast at the time!
2.5 GHZ and 1920 x 1200 don't mean everything. Your computer probably has a dual or quad core processor, a way better graphics card, and a waaay bigger hard drive or SSD, and is probably more powerful than this computer will ever be.
no shit. computers are stuck in their normal evolution since the last decade. My 2010 Thinkpad (1920x1200) still have better specs and performance overall purposes than most laptops today. Moore will be rolling in his grave.
I installed Windows 7 a while ago on an old Pentium III laptop @ 700MHz and 768 MB Ram despite the minimum requirements... It actually runs respectfully and reasonably quick. I did upgrade the old hard drive with an SSD so that probably made some improvement. I wouldn't bother with trying the internet on it or obviously playing games but it is a good computer for basic tasks like word processing etc etc... I might install Windows 98SE some time and use it as a retro computer those go for big bucks these days.
Laptop displays have gotten very bad. It's all because of those HD/Full HD monikers that got us stuck with crappy 1366x768 when we used to have way better screens in the past.
M. V. Shooting this wasn't really the norm in 2003 I believe. Most laptop displays back then were like 1024x768. However a lot of cheap laptops come with 1080p screens nowadays.
2021 here. I am using a Latitude 131L circa 2006-07. I had to change the processor to a dual core @ 2.1 GHz and add 4 G of Ram, all pretty cheap. It's running Mint 20.2 just fine. Just a little wait on the browser and app manager. I am thinking of replacing the HDD with SSD (less than $20 for the storage I need) for speed and durability.
maybe the Hard disk is wearing out, thus make it slower because many tested that pure electronic parts will not wearing out for years, but most moving parts is wearing out
Stick with XP when using this Dell 8500 laptop. I have 3-of them and they work fast with XP if you need to use Windows 7 or 10 get a HD used or new and a cradle that will fit the 8500 and install 7 or 10 on the 2nd HD then you can plug ether HDs in the H/D input and run whatever one you want to use for whatever it is you want to run. Hope this help you guys. It works OK for me. Tip: Don't install the small screws and it will be very EZ to change from one H/D to the other H/D.
I'm sorry, but that's not how it works. Clicking "OK" works the exact same as clicking "Apply" in Windows 7, clicking "OK" just closes the Window as well.
No he's right. Ok in Win 7 will only change the settings whilst your still logged on, after you turn it off and back on again the setting you changed will just go back to what it was before. Apply and then Ok will change the setting permanently until you change it yourself again.
3:43 Well, my mum's, previously my, PC has a GTX 750 with VGA, DVI, and HDMI. I still use VGA, or at least D-sub, but mostly just for older stuff. I believe my mum's monitor uses VGA, but it looks quite nice, anyhow.
yeah for most applications ( at the proper sense of the term) Linux like Xubuntu or Mint gets the job done on these machines. it's crazy to know most computers sold today still go with a 1366x768 display.
I have an old notebook from 2003 (Compaq Presario X1000). I could install Windows 7 on it as well, but it was super slow. What I did was to add a second network card in the form of a PCMCIA card and then installed pfSense. The notebook now works as a firewall/router and it does a better job at that than one of those "home routers" you buy at Wall Mart. The built network card is only 100 Mbit, but that's ok since my internet connection is "only" 100 Mbit. The PCMCIA network card is 1 Gbit and goes to my LAN.
Externally, that is very similar to my current laptop, which is also a Dell. It cost me around $200.00 on ebay but came with Windows 7, a dual-core processor, and 4GB RAM. I used to have a heavy Windows 98 laptop that was a burden to carry around, but my current laptop is light enough while still having all the ports I need to connect it to a monitor, keyboard, mouse and external storage when I need to.
Hey, 1920 x 1080 and 1920 x 1200 is the same. They all 1080p. It just a different aspect ratio, your dual monitor setup has a aspect ratio of 16:9, while the laptop has a aspect ratio of 16:10.
Nice comparision of the old and new, Bingocat. I also have an affection for the old laptops, but I put some version of Linux on them and they run pretty well. One thing to think about: for the price of a Macbook Air, you could get about 50 old laptops (@ $20). With some thought, you could turn them into serviceable units for light use.
I have an Acer Travelmate 800 and it's still perfectly usable, over years i have only upgraded the ram from 512mb to 1024mb (1gb) and i have installed Windows 7 Starter on a second partition. It's perfectly usable.
99stem yep my experience is as ling as the PC has drivers for at least Vista (drivers compatible with vista are usually with win8 aswell) and Win 7 is more ram hungry than 8.1 but for a gaming pc i prefered 7 over 8.1 but for non gaming PCs, win 8.1 performs the best
Depends on how old. Win 8.1 is a lot more optimized than say Win XP, it turns on the computer a lot faster. Try it... Just make sure your computer at least supports Windows Vista as most drivers that work on Vista, usually work on Windows 8.1
Your biggest bottleneck there in starting & loading programs is the slow PATA 4200rpm drive. If you can find 5200rpm PATA drive, it will be about twice as fast because not only is the RPM faster, but those newer drives have more data per square inch on the platter so seek, read, & write speeds are blazing by comparison. Add as much compatible RAM as you can. It probably will take no more than 2gb. They do make PATA SSD drives, but they don't have proper trim support, so if you're gonna run it daily heavily, the SSD will wear out faster. They do make PATA to mSATA adapters with rudimentary trim support so you can fit an mSATA drive in there. You can also turn down the resolution to 720-756p. This will work the CPU & graphics less hard to speed things up. But RUclips is very CPU intensive even with video on pause. On that machine, RUclips will probably use 60% of the processor before it even begins to try to process any of the video. So to play RUclips, you may have to set the RUclips preference to 360p to get it to play smooth. 360p video don't look too bad on a small laptop screen. If you still have problems, knock the video resolution down to 600p & 16 bit instead of 32 bit. That will free up even more CPU, GPU, & other resources to speed it up, & run video smoother. But it should play up to 720p video from it's DVD drive, hard drive, or external drive with VLC player, or MPC player tweaking the player's settings a little. In W7 go to your "Services" settings & disable all services you don't need, to make it faster than XP or most Linux. Maybe try to only leave the same services on that were available in XP to start with, & go on from there. Go to programs, & open Windows programs. Disable all windows programs in the Windows-only section. Check your other programs, & delete all that you don't need. W7 updates will try to install W10-style telemetry spyware. The telemetry is very resource & bandwidth hungry, & really invades your privacy too much. Google to find out which W7 updates with telemetry to remove or block. Install a lightweight Pale Moon or Firefox browser, & just don't use Explorer. You can also install a lightweight Linux OS alongside windows in a dual-boot configuration. Linux Xubuntu should run nice & snappy on that thing. You'll have the choice to boot to windows or Linux at boot time. Xubuntu is pretty easy to use. I have an old HP laptop with only a 800mhz CPU, 512mb of RAM, & nothing but Realtek on board/motherboard graphics. I put a rare old 7200RPM PATA drive in it (would be better with a mSATA SSD). It runs fine, rather quick, & handles anything on the internet except video above 360p, or online gaming. I've seen new chromebooks, & some new android tablets run worse. It will play 720p mp4 or mkv video from the DVD drive or external drive fine with VLC player. It's just a spare, but do use it mostly as my kitchen TV & music player. But I don't stream TV to it. It plays my movies & shows from a USB drive. But while in the kitchen, I surfed on it, & used Facebook including 360p or lower video streams. It's always nice to have a spare machine or 2 around as backup, experiment with or take to environments & places you wouldn't normally like to take your newer & more expensive machines to. Maybe you want something that can do more & have a bigger screen than a phone or small tablet, but aren't willing to take your best machine there... like a camping trip, a rough area, or through bad weather.
I bought a 2015 Dell optiplex 3020 with monitor for $30 at a thrift store in December 2016. It has a Broadwell Intel Core i5, running at 3.2 Ghz, 4GB of DDR3 RAM, a 500 GB hard drive with only 650 hours on it, and I added an Nvidia GTX 750ti and an install of Windows 10 on it.
I use my laptop from 2004 a lot still. Its an old dell with a pentium M it had 512mb RAM but i just upgraded it to 1 1/2 gb ram a few weeks ago. I also upgraded to a newer os and it works just fine. If i need to get on the internet on the go i always take my 'ol laptop. :) I often get people making fun of my computer and commenting on how it belongs in the trash, but i don't care this laptop works just fine for just about anything i have thrown at it.
one of my buddy gave me a DELL Latitude D830 and it looked pretty much the same has your laptop, ive put around 120$ in my laptop to get it up and running,the fan was missing along with the ram cover and the charger. i have replace the battery also with a brand new one and i have clean install windows Vista on it, it is a snappy little laptop thanks to his Core2Duo i like it alot and there is still alot of life left in it even for a 8 years old laptop
I bought a lot of Dell Insprion laptops made between 2001 and 2005. To make them usable as web browser I had to do the following. Max them all a 2gb ram. Then I installed various lighter linux distros . ( tiny core, puppy, lubuntu. Mx, ect. What I found was this. Use either puppy or tiny core and Install slim jet browser. When I did this, they became usable web surfers, and office doc machines. They are good for this and not much else. .If this is all you need then one of these may be right for you. After all I only have about $15 U.S invested in each one.
I have run several Thinkpad T42 and T43 units with both XP Pro SP3 AND 32bit MX16 Linux without issue. The issue I often find is with the very poor quality Intel integrated graphics gpu's....if these units have ATI or Nvidia graphics performance for most tasks is tolerable and you can even run google earth.
I'm running an old Dell Latitude from '99/2000 with mostly up to date software and older G3 iMac/iBook/PowerMac machines running OS 9.2, also with usable software (not up to date, but usable). All can browse the web, play older games, provide coding environments (Python 2.3 on the Macs and up to date Python 2x/3x and Free Pascal/Lazarus on the Dell). The only machines of mine that I would consider to be unusable for day to day work are ones from the 80's (C64, Atari 400, TS-1000, Apple //e), but even then, you could get them up and running on the net with some special software and hardware additions and lots of patience.
...You could always turn it onto a thin client. I did it with my PowerBook G3 where I would load Chicken of the VNC and then leach onto a PC in the network and just full screen it via remote desktop. If a PowerBook G3 could do that on MacOS 9, any XP machine could do it, and even better with TeamViewer.
I was given a 2002 Compaq Presario 1500 Intel P4 1.4Ghz with Windows XP and 512 M b of ram. I inistalled Lubuntu on it and sure it is slow, but it is also a useable backup machine for when you are working in places you would not take your best laptop!
i agree with your comment from computers from 2006 and up, and not just for the dual core processors, but also the SATA hard drives and DDR2 memory that's relatively cheap in its own right so its still easy to fix
I'd say that that laptop is still very well usable with Windows XP maybe for basic tasks such as word processing, web browsing in FF, and even watching youtube videos, not in HD, but at least in SD, a computer of those specs would run fine for that as well as playing older games. I actually in another room still sometimes use an HP pavilion laptop that about has the same specs, AMD athlon64 3200+ single core 2ghz, 1.5gbs of ddr333ram, and an ATI xpress200m graphics card with 128mbs of vram. Of course, its from 2005, so maybe just slightly more powerful than that laptop, but has a lower res screen, 1280x800. I have it hooked to a printer and it still works fine for me if I need to print a shipping label off of ebay.
I have an old HP laptop from around 2003 that has XP on it and it can handle simpler things on internet but RUclips videos jam it up. If I run it on Puppy Linux it will run pretty much any RUclips video. I use it mostly for offline things . It is weird to see every time it fires up the notice that Windows XP is beyond update for like 5 years now. I’m pretty sure I hooked it up to internet one time to download something simple and in like 2016 it gave an XP update for something.
Also one thing I like about my Dell Precision m6400 which isn't exactly new either, from around 2009 is that it also has a 1920 by 1200 resolution screen which I imagine is pretty close to full hd. Plus another thing this laptop has is that's ahead of its time is 12 GBs of DDR3 ram at 1066 mhz. I remember back in 09, most pcs were still using ddr2 ram at either 667 or 800mhz. It also has a Core 2 Quad extreme which for me actually outperforms a lot of i3s or i5s because even though it doesn't have hyperthreading like the I series has, it does have 4 physical cores. For some reason most new laptops still only have maybe 1280 by 800 or 1366 by 768 or even 1600 by 900. I think this laptop I have back in 2009 would have costed over $4,000 because its a commercial grade laptop.
That's still a really good laptop. I've noticed many older computers from like 2007-2011 are still fairly up-to-par, with a RAM upgrade and maybe an SSD added. Computing power hasn't really changed that much IMHO since the Intel Core 2 days.
So far, the newest 3d game I ran on this laptop was Mass Effect 3 which is from 2012 and it even runs really smooth like at least 20 to 30 fps at 1920 by 1200 resolution. Even skyrim is about the same, runs as smooth as silk at max quality settings and I think its from about the end of 2011. I think even being from 2009, this laptop still runs faster then many new cheap laptops you find at Walmart or BestBuy. I also has a 160 gb intel ssd, so it starts Windows 10 in about 20 seconds.
I have still a dell insprion 8600 laying around in very bad condition, it's basically the same as this laptop but with an intel centrino cpu inside, and i know what you mean with this pc running slow as hell. Even on it's native OS windows XP, doing anything as simple as browsing folders is utterly slow and it makes the laptop almost unusable for anything. It's really weird but i also think it has something to do with electrical components on the motherboard being worn out, maybe not supplying enough voltage to the CPU anymore or something. I've had other laptops from the same time period with similar specs that worked decent, some years back i've even had a couple of HP nc8000 laptop and i remember being so suprised how well they performed for their age and specs
I think my oldest laptop the Toshiba satellite is even thicker and manufactured in November of 1998 and runs Windows 98 se and has the floppy and CD drive built in.
Newer OS and games are just too resource intensive for the single core processors. I have a laptop that I think came out in 2002 (Pentium 4) that was a few years old when I got it but was top of the line when it first came out. I put Linux Mint 17.3 Mate on it and it runs pretty good. Much better than the Windows XP that came pre-installed on it. However, as the browsers have updated in just the last 6 months, it struggles to play play RUclips videos. Now if you download the videos you really want to see onto another device, transfer the computer and play them using VLC, the videos play beautifully and look surprisingly clear. I'm going to see if 17.3 Xfce will be a bit lighter on it. Bodhi Linux is another good one and it has a Legacy version for non pae computers. I'm using it on a single core 1.3 ghz laptop. So it is still possible to use these older machines with single core processors, they just are not going to have the speed that most folks have gotten used to nor will they run the modern programs that well. Oh, I forgot to say, if the ram is not already maxed out, it probably won't be that expensive to do so as the max for machines of that era is usually 3 GB. Mine was 2GB which was only $20 to max out.
Wonder how Windows 2000 professional would run on that. I know Windows XP pretty much is still fully usable since I can still get on public wifis and surf the internet.
I still had my old Compaq from the old days and it also runs windows 98 i upgraded the hard drive and memory and it runs great now i only use it for playing dos games and the battery still olds power these old laptops are amazing
I have a dell latitude e630 from 2007. I upgraded the ram from 2GB to 4GB, and have a fresh install of windows 10, and it performs much like the really low end PC's of today. I have it docked all the time and mostly use it for school to remain on task with homework, because RUclips and Netflix are too taxing on the integrated graphics .
Do you mean a D630, Luis? I run a D630 (2 GHz) with Linux (Ubuntu Mate) and do RUclips just fine. I don't do games or video editing, but so far I haven't run into any limitations. The D630s are nice machines! Easy to fix, lots of documentation, and they have a dual core.
+Bart Anderson whoops slip of the key. Yeah it was a d630. I didn't check because I always have it docked with the screen shut. I can comfortably watch 480p video with a few chrome tabs open and emulate everything up to SNES.
I was inspired to dig mine up from a cabinet after not having used it for two years. What had inspired me was a video from Austin Evans "Mac vs PC ten years later."
I have a dell d620 (from 2006) which first core duo (real 2 core, not htt), 2 gb ram, xp sp3 . I use a "RUclips flash player" plug on my firefox browser and is pretty good in 720p. When I play the same video on html5 I must watch in 360p. When you use firefox install this plug too and have fun
The P4 Mobile is your problem. I have an Inspiron 8600 here, also made in 2003, but it has a Pentium M inside it, and it's actually somewhat usable, very much so if you install Linux on it, but even passable in Windows.
This particular dell model doesn’t know if they should make it look like a Precision + Latitude or Inspiron + Precision. 1920x1200 is so beating my high end 2002 Toshiba Satelite 5205-S703 with only 1600x1200
I have an old HP NX6125, it has a very slow Sempron-3100 32bit cpu, and I somehow managed to overclock it from 1.8GHz to 2.444 with ClockGen tool, and the ram (512mb) from 333Mhz to 400 and the gpu to 200MHz+ I dont remember. Then it was possible to load a modern web page, watch TY videos in 720p, edit pictures in A. Photoshop and A. Illustrator, and other things - if it doesn't blow up _ more info - Vista sp2, 60Gb Seagate Momentus, 512mb ddr1 ram, 1024x768 display, 32 to 128mb of shared GPU ram at choice, gpu ATI 300m (32 att), cpu AMD Sempron 3100 32bit 800Mhz-1.8Ghz notice I'm not sure if the clock readings are correct from the tools I used
Great video. I recently picked up an HP zd8000 for $10 at a yard sale. The hard drive is missing but the seller actually through in a brand new 250 GB hard drive to put in it. It has a very nice resolution screen at 1440 by 900. I was quite impressed because at the time this was made around 2004 it already had Wi-Fi installed and 5 USB ports. Everything is functioning fine. I upgraded the memory to two gigabytes which is the max supportef. I turned it into a retro game playing machine for my son by installing Retropie. It now plays NES Super NES Sega Genesis and then N64 games without even breaking a sweat. So yeah you can't find uses for old laptops but of course they'll never perform at the same level as modern laptops will. If you keep that in mind you can be creative and find a practical use for one.
I forgot to mention I installed Linux Lite as the operating system. I had initially installed Windows 7 but there was just too much lag. Besides by installing a Linux operating system I was able to install retropie and turn it into a retro gaming machine.
about 6 monhts ago i bought a used Asus N53SM for 300 usd.. its a 2011 laptop with a intel core i7 2570qm 2.4ghz turbo to 3.2ghz 4 core 8 thead and it has a gt 630m to power the display witch is running at standart full hd.. for the price i paid its pretty damm nice.. and it also has Bang and Olufsen made audio so that is actualy really neat ... 8/10 needs longer battery life
I have an Alienware area 51-m Intel Pentinum 4 desktop processor running at 3.6 ghz with only 1 gb of DDR RAM. The 80 GB hard drive it originally came with died on me a few weeks ago but i backed up all of my information thankfully
The composited desktop probably doesn't help. If it were me, I'd install something like FreeBSD or Slackware and use an older, non-compositing desktop like KDE 2 or Window Maker or NsCDE. Nouveau still officially supports the NV28 GPU.
i got a a windows ME laptop for 40$ it was onsale for 27 though. It was 1100 about when it was new. I also got a vista laptop for 150 plus tons of other software for 150$ just the laptop was 1500 about when it was new
I'm running Windows 7 on a Dell Latitude D530 duel core processor and 2gb of ram. I wouldn't say it's the fastest, but it's more than capable for daily use.
1920 x 1200.... 2003....... Well at least Dell future-proof the screen
Vexon X1 flat screen is definetly a better choice
I mean 1080p was a thing then so..
@@9852323 Been a thing since the early 90s, in Japan at least
This guy sounds exactly like a manager I used to have who I hated with a passion...but I'm sure he's nice
I recommend installing a light version of Linux, like LXLE or Lubuntu. You'll probably find that the computer performs surprisingly well for you then.
install Kai Linux and hack the neighbor
Not with a Pentium 4 @2.5ghz and 1.25gb of RAM, it won't.
-as a music PC.
I mean... If you're using something for the sole purpose of a singular job, then of course it'll be just fine. But I doubt it works well at as all as a day to day computer. 768mb of RAM? My machines use anywhere from 3-5gb just doing basic day to day stuff.
Isaac Koonce Yes I like all version of Linux because Linux is not prepritary and all you have to do is use command sudo apt install name of program and it automaticly finds newest compatible version.
I have a laptop with a 1.2ghz Pentium 3 and 256mb of RAM and with LXDE and Midori I was able to browse the internet and watch RUclips videos.
put xp on it again. fresh install of xp im sure that thing will run blazing fast on it
I did. It didn't run well, it actually ran worse for me than Windows 7. With XP SP3 anyways. Thanks for the suggestion though.
Bingocat huh that's really strange. I have a dell inspiron 5100 from 2003 also that has 500MB of ram and a pentium 4 and it runs xp super fast.
Maybe the hard drive in mine is going bad? Idk
Bingocat yea that could be it
+Bingocat R u going to do the Q&A video???
The only cause of the slowness on this Inspiron is lack of memory. Win 7 takes up 1.1 Gigs idling, and this system has just 1.25, that means everything is being swapped between the hard drive and memory. Win 7 will run decently on a Pentium 4 with 4 gigs of memory. which IS available for this series.
1920x1200 in 2003 holy shit! My monitor from 2012 has 1360x768 :(
lol me to
hehe! High Five !
i have huawei y550 with custom lineageOS 14.1 rom
Matthew Hoban my laptop also have 1366x768 too
my monitor from 2005 does 1920x1440
That's a trackpoint, which is still available on newer laptops,, not a track ball. A trackball has a physical, rolling ball.
I'm watching this video on my ol' pc running Windows 2000 Professional With No Service Pack, so old computers from THE 90's can still be used today fine!
What gpu do you have?!?
Wich browser you use
That's true!!! I'm on a computer from 2001
well.. to give life to old machines, just add SSD and more RAM. It will speed things up a lot. Also, when using Windows, i use FolderChanger to increase my productivity overall, just to speed up my workflow as well. You will find it if you google for "folderchanger"
An SSD? It's IDE so no normal SSD can be used
Yeah, you have to use an adapter with a 1.8" SSD, and my experience with those things is that between the adapter and the slow speed of the PATA controller, you don't gain any performance.
U hate it when people underestimate these older laptops. That's a pretty laptop
Im still using my old computer from 2006 as a guinea pig, its a P4 HT 641@ 3.2ghz with 4 gb ddr2 ram, I have windows 10 on it to see if I like it, handles it perty good. I remember with XP 32bit it was blazing fast.
I just bought an HP computer from 2005 that's rocking an AMD Athlon 3200+, theoretically one of the oldest CPUs that can run Windows 10. I plan to make a video on that, so stay tuned!
I just upgraded my P4 to the fastest cpu the old mother board could take, a intel 6700 dual core.
You can no longer use GHz solely as a indication for performance.
It mainly depends on the instruction per second along with the GHz.
legosavantfun An Athlon 3200+ wasn't actually 3.2ghz, I think from memory it was 2ghz or thereabouts. I have an old Toshiba from 2003 with a 3ghz P4 in it, that was an absolute beast at the time!
Better than the stuff they have in North Korea.
xD
Coming soon -- "Microsoft: Windows XD"
red star sounds like a pretty cool OS
i thought most of the internet was still dial up in north korea
UnderWreck Sounds like a Windows Never Released version.
2.5 GHZ????? 1920 x 1200??? THATS BETTER THAN MY COMPUTER!!!!!!
2.5 GHZ and 1920 x 1200 don't mean everything. Your computer probably has a dual or quad core processor, a way better graphics card, and a waaay bigger hard drive or SSD, and is probably more powerful than this computer will ever be.
***** hi!
The CPU clock speed really doesn't mean anything, I imagine your CPU has more than one core
Not to mention IPC
no shit. computers are stuck in their normal evolution since the last decade. My 2010 Thinkpad (1920x1200) still have better specs and performance overall purposes than most laptops today.
Moore will be rolling in his grave.
I installed Windows 7 a while ago on an old Pentium III laptop @ 700MHz and 768 MB Ram despite the minimum requirements... It actually runs respectfully and reasonably quick. I did upgrade the old hard drive with an SSD so that probably made some improvement.
I wouldn't bother with trying the internet on it or obviously playing games but it is a good computer for basic tasks like word processing etc etc...
I might install Windows 98SE some time and use it as a retro computer those go for big bucks these days.
Laptop displays have gotten very bad. It's all because of those HD/Full HD monikers that got us stuck with crappy 1366x768 when we used to have way better screens in the past.
M. V. Shooting this wasn't really the norm in 2003 I believe. Most laptop displays back then were like 1024x768. However a lot of cheap laptops come with 1080p screens nowadays.
monitors*
Watching with no lag on a 2003 gateway m275 tablet
did u relise that windows xp has an emoji? XP
that's not an emoji
yes it is
XP
It's an emoticon not an emoji you stupid fuck
Lüminism 1. ok sorry I got it wrong jeez
2. I'm not gonna say anything to part of your comment 'you stupid fuck' TI'm will not respond to that
I think even more thicker than that 2003 dell laptop is my old Toshiba Satellite CDS330 laptop from 1998 which runs Windows 98 second edition.
2003 technology being considered as "old" makes me feel REALLY old!
How old are you?
This comment makes me feel young
2021 here. I am using a Latitude 131L circa 2006-07. I had to change the processor to a dual core @ 2.1 GHz and add 4 G of Ram, all pretty cheap. It's running Mint 20.2 just fine. Just a little wait on the browser and app manager. I am thinking of replacing the HDD with SSD (less than $20 for the storage I need) for speed and durability.
No, the 2003 Microsoft computer support ended, but some computer that is 2003 may be not ended.
maybe the Hard disk is wearing out, thus make it slower
because many tested that pure electronic parts will not wearing out for years, but most moving parts is wearing out
Man that is some rapid value depreciation
Oh my gosh I didn't think I would see one of these things ever again. Good find!
Thank you!
Slow HDD and low RAM are probably the main reasons this computer goes so slow to be fair.
Stick with XP when using this Dell 8500 laptop.
I have 3-of them and they work fast with XP if you need to use Windows 7 or 10 get a HD used or new and a cradle that will fit the 8500 and install 7 or 10 on the 2nd HD then you can plug ether HDs in the H/D input and run whatever one you want to use for whatever it is you want to run. Hope this help you guys. It works OK for me. Tip: Don't install the small screws and it will be very EZ to change from one H/D to the other H/D.
we still have to use windows 7 computers at school i have my own computer and its windowsb10
what ?
legosavantfun Good luck running ultimate on that
Kanda Sorata Windows 7 isn't even that old...
2016: my macbook only has 6 ports.
2019: my macbook only has 1 port.
You realized you clicked "OK" instead of "Apply" when you changed the resolution? That's why your resolution comes back to default.
I'm sorry, but that's not how it works. Clicking "OK" works the exact same as clicking "Apply" in Windows 7, clicking "OK" just closes the Window as well.
No it's not.
No he's right.
Ok in Win 7 will only change the settings whilst your still logged on, after you turn it off and back on again the setting you changed will just go back to what it was before.
Apply and then Ok will change the setting permanently until you change it yourself again.
3:43 Well, my mum's, previously my, PC has a GTX 750 with VGA, DVI, and HDMI. I still use VGA, or at least D-sub, but mostly just for older stuff. I believe my mum's monitor uses VGA, but it looks quite nice, anyhow.
i have an IBM t43 from late 2005 and is ok with xp, better with ubuntu 10.4
yeah for most applications ( at the proper sense of the term) Linux like Xubuntu or Mint gets the job done on these machines.
it's crazy to know most computers sold today still go with a 1366x768 display.
I have an old notebook from 2003 (Compaq Presario X1000). I could install Windows 7 on it as well, but it was super slow. What I did was to add a second network card in the form of a PCMCIA card and then installed pfSense. The notebook now works as a firewall/router and it does a better job at that than one of those "home routers" you buy at Wall Mart. The built network card is only 100 Mbit, but that's ok since my internet connection is "only" 100 Mbit. The PCMCIA network card is 1 Gbit and goes to my LAN.
is it just me or his hands are shaking way to much
The Schaefer Playz He's probably paralyzed, LMAO 😂😂
Nice Review Bingo do more of these!
runs gta 5 and fallout 4...
Randal H Dalme and Battlefield 1
Randal H Dalme runs minesweeper at 60fps 180p hi res
But can it run crysis?
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Yes on high quality
Cool math games?
Externally, that is very similar to my current laptop, which is also a Dell. It cost me around $200.00 on ebay but came with Windows 7, a dual-core processor, and 4GB RAM. I used to have a heavy Windows 98 laptop that was a burden to carry around, but my current laptop is light enough while still having all the ports I need to connect it to a monitor, keyboard, mouse and external storage when I need to.
lol yeah sure your macbook is thinner
but that 2003 laptop has lot more ports than your macbook :p
v3xman you are right
Hey, 1920 x 1080 and 1920 x 1200 is the same. They all 1080p. It just a different aspect ratio, your dual monitor setup has a aspect ratio of 16:9, while the laptop has a aspect ratio of 16:10.
Nice drinking cup. When are you going to review the cup?.
Nice comparision of the old and new, Bingocat. I also have an affection for the old laptops, but I put some version of Linux on them and they run pretty well. One thing to think about: for the price of a Macbook Air, you could get about 50 old laptops (@ $20). With some thought, you could turn them into serviceable units for light use.
I never thought of that. Thanks for the idea.
Throw an SSD in it and youll be set.
Not that simple. This machine is so old it doesn't use SATA. You don't gain much performance running an SSD on a PATA controller from 2003.
I have an Acer Travelmate 800 and it's still perfectly usable, over years i have only upgraded the ram from 512mb to 1024mb (1gb) and i have installed Windows 7 Starter on a second partition. It's perfectly usable.
Who's watching in 2017?
mariopartyfanify13 me :D
5:46 is where they got the nintendo switch logo animation sound.
Wow that sounds so similar.
Should have put Windows 8.1. Much much faster for old PCs than Win7
I agree, but Windows 8.1 also requires NX support for the processor, which this computer doesn't have.
you can bypass that somehow
Is it really faster on a old computer? My understanding is that it has more in it and runs slower on old computers.
99stem yep my experience is as ling as the PC has drivers for at least Vista (drivers compatible with vista are usually with win8 aswell)
and Win 7 is more ram hungry than 8.1 but for a gaming pc i prefered 7 over 8.1 but for non gaming PCs, win 8.1 performs the best
Depends on how old. Win 8.1 is a lot more optimized than say Win XP, it turns on the computer a lot faster. Try it...
Just make sure your computer at least supports Windows Vista as most drivers that work on Vista, usually work on Windows 8.1
Your biggest bottleneck there in starting & loading programs is the slow PATA 4200rpm drive. If you can find 5200rpm PATA drive, it will be about twice as fast because not only is the RPM faster, but those newer drives have more data per square inch on the platter so seek, read, & write speeds are blazing by comparison. Add as much compatible RAM as you can. It probably will take no more than 2gb.
They do make PATA SSD drives, but they don't have proper trim support, so if you're gonna run it daily heavily, the SSD will wear out faster. They do make PATA to mSATA adapters with rudimentary trim support so you can fit an mSATA drive in there.
You can also turn down the resolution to 720-756p. This will work the CPU & graphics less hard to speed things up. But RUclips is very CPU intensive even with video on pause. On that machine, RUclips will probably use 60% of the processor before it even begins to try to process any of the video. So to play RUclips, you may have to set the RUclips preference to 360p to get it to play smooth. 360p video don't look too bad on a small laptop screen.
If you still have problems, knock the video resolution down to 600p & 16 bit instead of 32 bit. That will free up even more CPU, GPU, & other resources to speed it up, & run video smoother.
But it should play up to 720p video from it's DVD drive, hard drive, or external drive with VLC player, or MPC player tweaking the player's settings a little.
In W7 go to your "Services" settings & disable all services you don't need, to make it faster than XP or most Linux. Maybe try to only leave the same services on that were available in XP to start with, & go on from there.
Go to programs, & open Windows programs. Disable all windows programs in the Windows-only section. Check your other programs, & delete all that you don't need. W7 updates will try to install W10-style telemetry spyware. The telemetry is very resource & bandwidth hungry, & really invades your privacy too much. Google to find out which W7 updates with telemetry to remove or block.
Install a lightweight Pale Moon or Firefox browser, & just don't use Explorer.
You can also install a lightweight Linux OS alongside windows in a dual-boot configuration. Linux Xubuntu should run nice & snappy on that thing. You'll have the choice to boot to windows or Linux at boot time. Xubuntu is pretty easy to use.
I have an old HP laptop with only a 800mhz CPU, 512mb of RAM, & nothing but Realtek on board/motherboard graphics. I put a rare old 7200RPM PATA drive in it (would be better with a mSATA SSD). It runs fine, rather quick, & handles anything on the internet except video above 360p, or online gaming. I've seen new chromebooks, & some new android tablets run worse. It will play 720p mp4 or mkv video from the DVD drive or external drive fine with VLC player.
It's just a spare, but do use it mostly as my kitchen TV & music player. But I don't stream TV to it. It plays my movies & shows from a USB drive. But while in the kitchen, I surfed on it, & used Facebook including 360p or lower video streams.
It's always nice to have a spare machine or 2 around as backup, experiment with or take to environments & places you wouldn't normally like to take your newer & more expensive machines to. Maybe you want something that can do more & have a bigger screen than a phone or small tablet, but aren't willing to take your best machine there... like a camping trip, a rough area, or through bad weather.
u shake way to much XD
Why bother?
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Yea. I really like 16:10 displays. My Macbook Air has one. And i really think it gives you that extra Space needed.
I didn't realize my own MacBook Air also had a 16:10 display. You learn something new everyday. Thanks.
I bought a 2015 Dell optiplex 3020 with monitor for $30 at a thrift store in December 2016. It has a Broadwell Intel Core i5, running at 3.2 Ghz, 4GB of DDR3 RAM, a 500 GB hard drive with only 650 hours on it, and I added an Nvidia GTX 750ti and an install of Windows 10 on it.
I use my laptop from 2004 a lot still. Its an old dell with a pentium M it had 512mb RAM but i just upgraded it to 1 1/2 gb ram a few weeks ago. I also upgraded to a newer os and it works just fine. If i need to get on the internet on the go i always take my 'ol laptop. :) I often get people making fun of my computer and commenting on how it belongs in the trash, but i don't care this laptop works just fine for just about anything i have thrown at it.
that's more than 10 years ago, but this laptop is top of the line at the time. It was back in 2004 that I built my first computer
When your video is at 6:20 and he still hasn't started the computer.
1:36 It's crazy how quickly technology is becoming more efficient
I wonder if the slowness is partly due to the lack of drivers.
It's not. Every single driver was installed and up-to-date when I made this video.
2003 : Oh Lord.. that laptop is so future of technology
2019 : Oh Lord.. that laptop is so antique for marketplace
pretty basic expensive laptop for its time, check out the Sony Vaio x505 from 2003 its thinner than alot of laptops even today
i think the laptops from 2006 to 2011 looked nicer than the ones after Windows 8 came out
Drago1995 Definitely! Nowadays almost all laptops entry level to The latest and greatest are Black.
9:35 For it to save fully as it ''resets to default everytime it turns on'' you need to click Apply then ok
one of my buddy gave me a DELL Latitude D830 and it looked pretty much the same has your laptop, ive put around 120$ in my laptop to get it up and running,the fan was missing along with the ram cover and the charger. i have replace the battery also with a brand new one and i have clean install windows Vista on it, it is a snappy little laptop thanks to his Core2Duo i like it alot and there is still alot of life left in it even for a 8 years old laptop
Core 2 Duos are still decent processors. So much better than Pentium anything.
I bought a lot of Dell Insprion laptops made between 2001 and 2005. To make them usable as web browser I had to do the following. Max them all a 2gb ram. Then I installed various lighter linux distros . ( tiny core, puppy, lubuntu. Mx, ect. What I found was this. Use either puppy or tiny core and Install slim jet browser. When I did this, they became usable web surfers, and office doc machines. They are good for this and not much else. .If this is all you need then one of these may be right for you. After all I only have about $15 U.S invested in each one.
I have a 1920x1080 laptop, about 9 years old. Not very surprising, it took long enough for 4K to come out
im using a dell latitude 2003 xp right now
11:00 But my 8500 has a Radeon 9000 according to the BIOS and XP.
I have run several Thinkpad T42 and T43 units with both XP Pro SP3 AND 32bit
MX16 Linux without issue. The issue I often find is with the very poor quality
Intel integrated graphics gpu's....if these units have ATI or Nvidia graphics
performance for most tasks is tolerable and you can even run google earth.
Love your videos man, you earned a sub. :)
I recently used one of this dinosaurs to recover my current laptop. It took an eternity make a bootable USB.
I'm running an old Dell Latitude from '99/2000 with mostly up to date software and older G3 iMac/iBook/PowerMac machines running OS 9.2, also with usable software (not up to date, but usable). All can browse the web, play older games, provide coding environments (Python 2.3 on the Macs and up to date Python 2x/3x and Free Pascal/Lazarus on the Dell). The only machines of mine that I would consider to be unusable for day to day work are ones from the 80's (C64, Atari 400, TS-1000, Apple //e), but even then, you could get them up and running on the net with some special software and hardware additions and lots of patience.
I like to collect pc's from the 90s 2000s and early 2010s and I get triggered anytime modern day people say older computers are obsolete
...You could always turn it onto a thin client. I did it with my PowerBook G3 where I would load Chicken of the VNC and then leach onto a PC in the network and just full screen it via remote desktop. If a PowerBook G3 could do that on MacOS 9, any XP machine could do it, and even better with TeamViewer.
Windows 10 beta build works on Pentium I think.
Also the harddrive is clearly dying or something.
I was given a 2002 Compaq Presario 1500 Intel P4 1.4Ghz with Windows XP and 512 M b of ram. I inistalled Lubuntu on it and sure it is slow, but it is also a useable backup machine for when you are working in places you would not take your best laptop!
I used to have a DELL inspiron6400. I used it until 2013 together with my old macbook pro(2011).
i agree with your comment from computers from 2006 and up, and not just for the dual core processors, but also the SATA hard drives and DDR2 memory that's relatively cheap in its own right so its still easy to fix
I agree with you. This computer had an IDE hard drive and DDR RAM. It's definitely dated now.
Put a fresh load of XP SP3, load on the SP4 pack + Embedded update hack on it, it'll fly.
5:11 back of the laptop?!?!
I'd say that that laptop is still very well usable with Windows XP maybe for basic tasks such as word processing, web browsing in FF, and even watching youtube videos, not in HD, but at least in SD, a computer of those specs would run fine for that as well as playing older games. I actually in another room still sometimes use an HP pavilion laptop that about has the same specs, AMD athlon64 3200+ single core 2ghz, 1.5gbs of ddr333ram, and an ATI xpress200m graphics card with 128mbs of vram. Of course, its from 2005, so maybe just slightly more powerful than that laptop, but has a lower res screen, 1280x800. I have it hooked to a printer and it still works fine for me if I need to print a shipping label off of ebay.
I have an old HP laptop from around 2003 that has XP on it and it can handle simpler things on internet but RUclips videos jam it up. If I run it on Puppy Linux it will run pretty much any RUclips video. I use it mostly for offline things . It is weird to see every time it fires up the notice that Windows XP is beyond update for like 5 years now.
I’m pretty sure I hooked it up to internet one time to download something simple and in like 2016 it gave an XP update for something.
Also one thing I like about my Dell Precision m6400 which isn't exactly new either, from around 2009 is that it also has a 1920 by 1200 resolution screen which I imagine is pretty close to full hd. Plus another thing this laptop has is that's ahead of its time is 12 GBs of DDR3 ram at 1066 mhz. I remember back in 09, most pcs were still using ddr2 ram at either 667 or 800mhz. It also has a Core 2 Quad extreme which for me actually outperforms a lot of i3s or i5s because even though it doesn't have hyperthreading like the I series has, it does have 4 physical cores. For some reason most new laptops still only have maybe 1280 by 800 or 1366 by 768 or even 1600 by 900. I think this laptop I have back in 2009 would have costed over $4,000 because its a commercial grade laptop.
That's still a really good laptop. I've noticed many older computers from like 2007-2011 are still fairly up-to-par, with a RAM upgrade and maybe an SSD added. Computing power hasn't really changed that much IMHO since the Intel Core 2 days.
So far, the newest 3d game I ran on this laptop was Mass Effect 3 which is from 2012 and it even runs really smooth like at least 20 to 30 fps at 1920 by 1200 resolution. Even skyrim is about the same, runs as smooth as silk at max quality settings and I think its from about the end of 2011. I think even being from 2009, this laptop still runs faster then many new cheap laptops you find at Walmart or BestBuy. I also has a 160 gb intel ssd, so it starts Windows 10 in about 20 seconds.
Well there you go. Your laptop is still basically modern.
1920x1200 is really high resolution for a laptop monitor back in 2003! I have on my laptop monitor 1920x1080 in 2019!
Without seeing the video, just answering the question: You can even use older PCs than 2003 with a current operating system... linux
I have still a dell insprion 8600 laying around in very bad condition, it's basically the same as this laptop but with an intel centrino cpu inside, and i know what you mean with this pc running slow as hell. Even on it's native OS windows XP, doing anything as simple as browsing folders is utterly slow and it makes the laptop almost unusable for anything. It's really weird but i also think it has something to do with electrical components on the motherboard being worn out, maybe not supplying enough voltage to the CPU anymore or something. I've had other laptops from the same time period with similar specs that worked decent, some years back i've even had a couple of HP nc8000 laptop and i remember being so suprised how well they performed for their age and specs
I thought that Laptop would have Windows XP in it.
I think my oldest laptop the Toshiba satellite is even thicker and manufactured in November of 1998 and runs Windows 98 se and has the floppy and CD drive built in.
Newer OS and games are just too resource intensive for the single core processors. I have a laptop that I think came out in 2002 (Pentium 4) that was a few years old when I got it but was top of the line when it first came out. I put Linux Mint 17.3 Mate on it and it runs pretty good. Much better than the Windows XP that came pre-installed on it. However, as the browsers have updated in just the last 6 months, it struggles to play play RUclips videos. Now if you download the videos you really want to see onto another device, transfer the computer and play them using VLC, the videos play beautifully and look surprisingly clear. I'm going to see if 17.3 Xfce will be a bit lighter on it. Bodhi Linux is another good one and it has a Legacy version for non pae computers. I'm using it on a single core 1.3 ghz laptop. So it is still possible to use these older machines with single core processors, they just are not going to have the speed that most folks have gotten used to nor will they run the modern programs that well.
Oh, I forgot to say, if the ram is not already maxed out, it probably won't be that expensive to do so as the max for machines of that era is usually 3 GB. Mine was 2GB which was only $20 to max out.
Those bezels are thinner than most laptops today. Am I missing something?
Wonder how Windows 2000 professional would run on that. I know Windows XP pretty much is still fully usable since I can still get on public wifis and surf the internet.
I still had my old Compaq from the old days and it also runs windows 98 i upgraded the hard drive and memory and it runs great now i only use it for playing dos games and the battery still olds power these old laptops are amazing
I have a dell latitude e630 from 2007. I upgraded the ram from 2GB to 4GB, and have a fresh install of windows 10, and it performs much like the really low end PC's of today. I have it docked all the time and mostly use it for school to remain on task with homework, because RUclips and Netflix are too taxing on the integrated graphics .
Do you mean a D630, Luis? I run a D630 (2 GHz) with Linux (Ubuntu Mate) and do RUclips just fine. I don't do games or video editing, but so far I haven't run into any limitations. The D630s are nice machines! Easy to fix, lots of documentation, and they have a dual core.
+Bart Anderson whoops slip of the key. Yeah it was a d630. I didn't check because I always have it docked with the screen shut. I can comfortably watch 480p video with a few chrome tabs open and emulate everything up to SNES.
+Luis Del Rivero, pretty good for a machine nine years old!
I was inspired to dig mine up from a cabinet after not having used it for two years. What had inspired me was a video from Austin Evans "Mac vs PC ten years later."
I have a dell d620 (from 2006) which first core duo (real 2 core, not htt), 2 gb ram, xp sp3 . I use a "RUclips flash player" plug on my firefox browser and is pretty good in 720p. When I play the same video on html5 I must watch in 360p.
When you use firefox install this plug too and have fun
The P4 Mobile is your problem. I have an Inspiron 8600 here, also made in 2003, but it has a Pentium M inside it, and it's actually somewhat usable, very much so if you install Linux on it, but even passable in Windows.
This particular dell model doesn’t know if they should make it look like a Precision + Latitude or Inspiron + Precision. 1920x1200 is so beating my high end 2002 Toshiba Satelite 5205-S703 with only 1600x1200
I have an old HP NX6125, it has a very slow Sempron-3100 32bit cpu, and I somehow managed to overclock it from 1.8GHz to 2.444 with ClockGen tool, and the ram (512mb) from 333Mhz to 400 and the gpu to 200MHz+ I dont remember.
Then it was possible to load a modern web page, watch TY videos in 720p, edit pictures in A. Photoshop and A. Illustrator, and other things - if it doesn't blow up
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more info - Vista sp2, 60Gb Seagate Momentus, 512mb ddr1 ram, 1024x768 display, 32 to 128mb of shared GPU ram at choice, gpu ATI 300m (32 att), cpu AMD Sempron 3100 32bit 800Mhz-1.8Ghz
notice I'm not sure if the clock readings are correct from the tools I used
Great video. I recently picked up an HP zd8000 for $10 at a yard sale. The hard drive is missing but the seller actually through in a brand new 250 GB hard drive to put in it. It has a very nice resolution screen at 1440 by 900. I was quite impressed because at the time this was made around 2004 it already had Wi-Fi installed and 5 USB ports. Everything is functioning fine. I upgraded the memory to two gigabytes which is the max supportef. I turned it into a retro game playing machine for my son by installing Retropie. It now plays NES Super NES Sega Genesis and then N64 games without even breaking a sweat. So yeah you can't find uses for old laptops but of course they'll never perform at the same level as modern laptops will. If you keep that in mind you can be creative and find a practical use for one.
I forgot to mention I installed Linux Lite as the operating system. I had initially installed Windows 7 but there was just too much lag. Besides by installing a Linux operating system I was able to install retropie and turn it into a retro gaming machine.
about 6 monhts ago i bought a used Asus N53SM for 300 usd.. its a 2011 laptop with a intel core i7 2570qm 2.4ghz turbo to 3.2ghz 4 core 8 thead and it has a gt 630m to power the display witch is running at standart full hd.. for the price i paid its pretty damm nice.. and it also has Bang and Olufsen made audio so that is actualy really neat ... 8/10 needs longer battery life
Love the intro music dude. I keep an old laptop for a few 16 and 32 bit games. I can connect it to the 42" TV with RGB.
Thanks! And what you do sounds fun.
2019, are you still have this? maybe you should try to swap out the harddisk with an ssd, and make a video again.
I have an Alienware area 51-m Intel Pentinum 4 desktop processor running at 3.6 ghz with only 1 gb of DDR RAM. The 80 GB hard drive it originally came with died on me a few weeks ago but i backed up all of my information thankfully
The composited desktop probably doesn't help. If it were me, I'd install something like FreeBSD or Slackware and use an older, non-compositing desktop like KDE 2 or Window Maker or NsCDE. Nouveau still officially supports the NV28 GPU.
i use a 2007 dell inspiron today and it runs fine. It has Windows 10 on it and it's upgraded with an ssd and it has 4 gbs of ram
i got a a windows ME laptop for 40$ it was onsale for 27 though. It was 1100 about when it was new. I also got a vista laptop for 150 plus tons of other software for 150$ just the laptop was 1500 about when it was new
I am realy like to use old type PCs. But I don't know, why I like to use old type computers. I think, It is a unique feeling. Awesome.
I'm running Windows 7 on a Dell Latitude D530 duel core processor and 2gb of ram. I wouldn't say it's the fastest, but it's more than capable for daily use.