And to all those pinball machines out there... if you really believe in yourself... then you can BE a pinball machine. Heart felt. We'll be with you every step of the way you brave little pinball machine.
My cousin was a F14 Tomcat pilot in the 91 Gulf war. I sat in a simulator in the RIO seat this aircraft was like the mustang P51D before for it as the Cadillac of the skies for its day as a swept wing fighter.
I had one with minor problems a while ago, and Jee! It plays fast. The only thing that was broke was the gearbox to the beacons. I fixed it with something i found on the nett with the right transmission. Thanks for a new very exciting series to look forward to.
Ron.. Great video. I'm in the exact same boat. Just bought 2x high speeds. One is a fixer upper, that needs a hard top (which is a lot of work, and your F14 may go that route), and the other is a rusty pit of hell that you'd run a mile from. Both had no legs, coin doors or back glass. Watching this F14 collection, and taking notes.
They don't make a F-14 Hardtop so that's not a option in this case... I've got a High Speed down the line i'm going to fix up in storage, it's pretty rough though :)
Ron I have been working on F14's sibling Fire for over a year. Removed the factory mylar. Not much PF paint lifting, but did damage text on some inserts. Getting rid of the adhesive was the hard part. Used mixture of flour and Goo Gone as recommend on internet. Can't wait to see how you handle insert damage. I have same problem with fire art on triangular inserts. Been struggling with what to do. My lower displays didn't work, uppers did. Replaced with LED displays.
Unfortunately the rest of it needs so much work I don't think it would be cost effective for the customer to spend all those hours on the playfield, I have to charge them for it (of course) and with that added on what it will cost to get it running well again, they may have to wait on the playfield (I can't spend a year on it!) We'll see what we end up with....
used to own one of these, whish i would have never gotten rid of it. something to consider on the playfield - a printed overlay, will make the playfield look brand new, have to take everything off, but something to consider
I've done a few of those in the past but they're a lotttttt of work unfortunately, you have to get all the old artwork off or when the lights shine through the inserts the text doesn't line up....
I want the night rider next to it but I love that the pinball just wants to entertain and be a pinball again. Like the toy story side of it. Wants to be loved again lol
This game always reminds of school summer holidays as it was installed at my local arcade at the start of said holidays back in 1987 (i think). Everything about it oozes that coolness factor that you very rarely see in either computer games or pinball today. Those ball locks stopped working about the time i had to go back to school :).
That speaker feedback is awesome! It's like communicating to us from 1990! Help it Ronnie! It's speaking to you! That theme song......here it? It don't get your heart pumpin' your dead! lol 👍👍👍
I was just listening to the silver ball Chronicles podcast on spotify. and they're going through the history of Bally's artists from mid 70's and late 80's. In one of the machines you're talking about was night Rider just because I just seen it in this video. But long story short the person who did the art of the backglass for it. Through inspiration from his high school days. And the woman was a friend of his and the man in the truck was his high school coach. Just for future reference it's a pretty interesting podcast. I just got done listening to the Steve Richie history for Williams. Because F14 TOMCAT. Also do a history for python Angelo and Steve Gomez.
I like to save the stuff, other people who aren't even with us anymore spent some of their time and effort making this stuff, the least we can do is help it survive, the stuff tries to work with you a little bit, lol Thanks for watching Mike!
Wow. That game is in sad shape, but the fact that it actually still boots is promising. This is going to be fun to watch, and not just because I dropped a lot of money into these machines as a teenager. It's going to be interesting to see if the missing displays are actually dead, or if it's just the battery damage (or both). And remember, kids: _Don't play with rusty balls!_ (Sorry. I'm 51 years old, but my inner 12 year old had to giggle.)
@@LyonsArcade Yuck! It so often is, unless you get lucky and catch it at the right time. Alright, so the missing displays probably _are_ due to battery corrosion. I'm not really surprised, since the bottom two displays seemed to be in such good shape (nice and bright, no flickering, etc). Makes you wonder if maybe the manufacturers should've put a bright orange warning label somewhere on the machine that says "Hey! There's batteries in the back box! Take them out before you put the machine in storage for 25 years!" 😉
I know but for reselling.. Either he's willing to spend the money to resell it.. But they play field.. If he want those blue and reds to pop... Either go with the restoration in the mylar.. Or just buy a new playfield.. A new playfield makes more sense in cost effectiveness.
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@@LyonsArcade Bless, well if you ever have something like a fixer upper not worth your time think of me :D. They are so expensive over here and i see people just throw them out on the street sometimes over in america.
Did you ever try to remove the mylar with a paint friendly thinner, such as rubber cement thinner or lighter fluid? I know it's flammable but used with caution it mite work. I have used it on suck on tape,stickers and old plexi glass backing paper with pretty good success. Good luck.
Would it be possible to remove the inserts from the underside of the play field and then carefully trim the Mylar away from the holes and put new inserts in?
I have a 2020 Black Knight sword of rage... what cleaner/wax should I be using just as general maintenance? I notice I'm getting some dirt tracks. ? Love your videos, learned a lot! We have a few older games (me and my buddy) and I now am confident I can fix nearly anything. =).
I use Carnauba wax like you can buy at the auto parts store, you can see some on our website www.LyonsArcade.com/parts.html .... That Black Knight Sword of Rage is pretty awesome, also designed by the same designer as this game, Steve Ritchie.
I know I am childish, but had to laugh when you talked about playing with rusty balls lol. Seriously though, would be lovely to see this machine up and running, but I can see the playfield is a challenge. The sound board works, but some of it does sound a bit messed up, distorted and a loud buzz in the background.... Looking forward to seeing how you tackle this one. It will certainly be more challenging than the Playmatic in the last series.
This one is a train wreck but we're going to get through it, all we have to do is work on everything in it and eventually it will be repaired :) Thanks for watching Brendan!
How often do you recommend swapping pinballs? btw, my gorf linear power supply was shot, so i'm getting it recapped. Hopefully that gorf will boot after that, i'm crossing my fingers. I did want to ask, Do you think swapping the linear psu for a switcher hurts it's collectable value? I hope you do save this pin. It looks like it won't be too bad to fix. You always get thumbs ups from me.
On a Gorf, swapping the power supply with the switcher doesn't really hurt the resale in my opinion. There's nothing really special about that linear one, it does the standard voltages the switcher does so we've done it before. Pretty easy little swap too! We just swap the pinballs when they show any sign of pitting or rust.
The lower half was mylar somebody installed, the top half only has a couple pieces of Mylar, but they're factory installed.... the lower part though is also over the mylar in front of the kickers, whew what were they thinkin :)
Noticed that one of the reflectors for the beacons was in the bottom cabinet with the other random stuff you was sorting through. Might have some extra work there with the beacons...
I have a Road Kings that had been playing great with no problems, now all of a sudden it is stuck in a very similar start up failure, any ideas what to do, since it was playing well now not?
It probably just has dead batteries.... turn if on, and if it's in test mode, hold down the 'advance' button inside the coin door until you get to the end of the settings and it should start up. We're going to go over all this in a later video.
@@LyonsArcade I have already tried replacing the batteries, no luck, local guy mention could be the main power board (original ). Also read where a bad flipper diode could jam up the power board
@@bobbuchman1925 What does it say when it comes up? If it's in the settings menu it's because it hasn't saved the settings... could be a problem with the batteries not making good contact with the holders or the holders have deteriorated, it shouldn't have anything to do with the power supply. If it doesn't boot into settings yes it could definitely be the power supply!
It does not boot into settings, when it first started , it would make a single bing after a while, then after a while more it would kind of get like in the video, now the GI will flicker a bit at first turn on and then stay at static GI, no other activity after being in for an hour or so
What clear coat do you use once you've finished your touch-up paint? It brushes on too? Hoping to see how you get this mylar off.. your whole process. Staying tuned.
We don't brush the clear on, we just use Krylon clear coat in a spray can. You have to have everything super clean though if there's any wax the clear will bubble.
@@808zhu We just mask off whatever's left on the playfield, but we don't go crazy with it, put a little tape around switches, etc. and just spot clear coat a little area. If you don't go crazy heavy with it, it blends in to the areas around it. The best way to do it is with auto clearcoat but takes a lot of time and money, we're just doing player machines people can enjoy not full restorations :)
@@LyonsArcade Awesome. That's what I'm planning on doing with my playfield wear.. just a nice, modest touch-up - nothing fancy. It doesn't have to be perfect, but it does need to be addressed. Once it's done I'll slap mylar over it (unless otherwise advised) and the next owner can do what they want. Player's condition is totally okay by me. It keeps that vintage charm. Thanks for the tips. 👍👍
hahaha it's becoming a running joke now, we may just keep it forever and never work on it so it's always in the background , LOL Hope you've been well man!
Dang...looks as bad as the Taxi I have right now waiting for an overhaul. I think I'd be pulling the mylar on that one, I don't see any other way around that awful playfield.
The sound chips are no longer available and had to be replaced by FPGAs if you are interested check out Jeri Ellsworth fixing the sound on a Pinball machine,BTW does this machine play any tracks from the movie TOP GUN.
Wow....that is a mess, and is really sad to see that. I'm sure you could do quite a bit of work, but wow. So the million dollar question I have (I honestly don't know, but I do have my kevlar underwear on), do any companies exist that have artwork files that could be used to re-print the artwork? It may be cost prohibitive, but man, that would be great. F-14, Fireball 2, Black Knight, Need For Speed...just a few of my favorites.
Yes there are some overlays you can get, and everyonce in a while they remake some of the playfields.... very expensive though and a lot of work to install!
Check out the ROM pack from a pinball simulator. It will have an artwork pack with the playfield and inserts, even the backglass. It might be worth tooling up if you do a lot of restoration. A 3d resin printer for clear/colored light inserts. A printer that can print vinyl for the playfield and other artworks. Print media for transferring print onto glass is pretty easy to use and low cost nowadays. Laser cutter.
@@DirtyRobot I have a friend that does in-home silk screening...he can handle back-glass sized pieces with his setup. I don't think he's ever done glass before, and usually only does 1 or 2 colors. That previous back glass that he had (must have been 17 colors on it) probably would not be done "in home" because of the steps and required registration....also the colors. Ink isn't cheap for silk screening, and it does have a limited life. I'll have to talk to my friend to see if he's ever done anything like that. Then again, I have to get myself a machine, but right now, people are charging about 5 times market price for these things (I've seen FireBall II's go for over $10K in 'playable" shape (i.e., it's a mess, but it works)).
@@WreckDiver99 I was suggesting an inkjet or DS transfer onto glass. You can get specialist film/paper that you can print full color on. You then use a chemical to transfer it onto the glass. After this process you would add a clear coat or similar protective layer. I have also seen a heat bonded process, where the glass is printed on directly and then cooked in an oven to cure the print, but this process is high end and expensive.
@@LyonsArcade or early lol..almost 415am Tuesday..got up to go to the bathroom and this video alert popped up..couldnt resist watching it..a school friend of mine had a Dr Who pinball in his garage a few years ago..full tardis noise and sound track etc..man i was blown away
Hello from Australia, just wondering why your videos are in 720p I have tried to adjust your videos to 1080p but no go, can you help here please, P. S your note pads we have the same saying here in Australia for that,hehehe...
Hmmm, i'm not sure about the 1080 thing, i'm not too technical but on my end it's letting me play it on youtube as 1080p in 60fps so maybe it was just having a bad night :) Thanks for watching Wayne, we appreciate it, even if you're stuck in old-school 720 :)
Thanks for the quick reply but it's been at 720p since the beginning, I have a optic fibre connection so super fast internet, so it's a wierd one for sure, I have been watching your channel for several months now. Anyway well done Sir.
You could try retrobriting the clear beacon. Submerged in beauty shop grade hydrogen peroxide and exposed to either artificial UV light or real sunlight on a good hot day especially. I have achieved incredible results with title strip plastic in jukebox and some white pinball parts as well. It's an amazing hack!
@@LyonsArcade Yeah. In that case, I'd buy a replacement. They're not that hard to find. A bit expensive for a piece of clear plastic IMO, but in this case, worth it. It beats a yellowed, cracked beacon any day.
@@SpearM3064 Have you seen the white ones they've made? I went with a clear one like the original, but I guess at some point they redid it as a white one since the clear one is so bright when the light goes off... but man that white one looks horrible!
lol do they make a playfield for this one? I'm gonna check.... Nope... at least they make a Night Rider though! classicplayfields.com/shop/pinball-playfields/nightrider-playfield/
Well ok. His wife is going to kill him. A true scenario would be restore the playfield.. Or get a new play field. And what would make her happy? And the price difference on resellability?
i was just going to suggest to heat the mylar to get it off. if you can get new playfield art you could order new art and redo the playfield. or if you get a junker machine where for example it has been in a flood and half of the cabinet is ruined but the playfield is ok you could replace the playfield. sometimes it is worth the repairs if the game is in a level of vintage and rarity that it no longer exists.
If he wants to resell the machine one of the things those colors got to pop. A reproduction play field would make that happen without having to take off the old mylar. And probably less of a pain in the ass. Good luck and God speed on that.
People put those reproduction playfields in their machines but I don't think he'd get his money back out of this title if he did that, they cost about $800 plus shipping, and it would be pretty expensive to take the time to swap the playfield, lots of work just getting all the sockets and wires and etc. swapped over to the new one.
I get it.. but those jewels need to POP for resale.. Especially for those playfield for Williams electronics.. That mylar is the hooking point.. Do you want a good game for your home.. with a possibility of resale? Or outright... Don't flip this machine unless you're intending to do it.. I'm not I'm not trying to be an a******.. At all. But that playfield... Either you try to lift that mylar or buy a new playfield? There's no way to fix those jewels.. Without lifting the mylar.. This customer needs to make some hard decision... How much money they're willing to commit to fixing this game. And how much money are they going to get with this game on resell. On the secondary market.. With out the blue and reds popping off.. The mylar is the key.. Major conundrum.. This dude need to make some hard decisions.. and how he invest in this game..
Even just the shipping makes most stuff cost prohibitive, and if it's second hand it's not gonna be too much better than this one or they would have never pulled it out of whatever it was in you wouldn't think...
@@LyonsArcade better but dirty as heck. I repaired the mpu and the guy killed it again (melted coil) but good this time so he just brought the whole machine.
ugh. the only 2 things i wanted to see that you just skipped over was how to open the back board and how to open the table. youtube is failing me today. :(
This is ours! He wanted to get it repaired since it belonged to his father. It’s in rough shape, but hoping you guys can bring it back to life.
We're going to fix it! Tell him not to worry about it :)
@@LyonsArcade Awesome. Wish whoever worked on it prior hadn’t goofed the playfield.
one of the best games EVER Made by Williams
@@Taawli you picked the right place and man to work on it! Have no fear!
it's in good pinball loving hands and heart(s).
And to all those pinball machines out there... if you really believe in yourself... then you can BE a pinball machine. Heart felt. We'll be with you every step of the way you brave little pinball machine.
haha that's definitely how I see it!
My cousin was a F14 Tomcat pilot in the 91 Gulf war. I sat in a simulator in the RIO seat this aircraft was like the mustang P51D before for it as the Cadillac of the skies for its day as a swept wing fighter.
I imagine it was something else in 1987, an incredible machine!
I had one with minor problems a while ago, and Jee! It plays fast. The only thing that was broke was the gearbox to the beacons. I fixed it with something i found on the nett with the right transmission. Thanks for a new very exciting series to look forward to.
We're going to go completely through this thing!
Ron.. Great video. I'm in the exact same boat. Just bought 2x high speeds. One is a fixer upper, that needs a hard top (which is a lot of work, and your F14 may go that route), and the other is a rusty pit of hell that you'd run a mile from. Both had no legs, coin doors or back glass. Watching this F14 collection, and taking notes.
They don't make a F-14 Hardtop so that's not a option in this case... I've got a High Speed down the line i'm going to fix up in storage, it's pretty rough though :)
F-14 has the best sound effects and music of any pin.
It’s pretty awesome!
Blimey old chap, look's like a lot of work ! this should be good one, I fix old electronics for a hobby, so I get ya !...cheers.
Let's do it!
Thanks for showing the serial number!
Thanks for watching Pepsi 1997!
Ron I have been working on F14's sibling Fire for over a year. Removed the factory mylar. Not much PF paint lifting, but did damage text on some inserts. Getting rid of the adhesive was the hard part. Used mixture of flour and Goo Gone as recommend on internet. Can't wait to see how you handle insert damage. I have same problem with fire art on triangular inserts. Been struggling with what to do. My lower displays didn't work, uppers did. Replaced with LED displays.
Unfortunately the rest of it needs so much work I don't think it would be cost effective for the customer to spend all those hours on the playfield, I have to charge them for it (of course) and with that added on what it will cost to get it running well again, they may have to wait on the playfield (I can't spend a year on it!)
We'll see what we end up with....
used to own one of these, whish i would have never gotten rid of it.
something to consider on the playfield - a printed overlay, will make the playfield look brand new, have to take everything off, but something to consider
I've done a few of those in the past but they're a lotttttt of work unfortunately, you have to get all the old artwork off or when the lights shine through the inserts the text doesn't line up....
I want the night rider next to it but I love that the pinball just wants to entertain and be a pinball again. Like the toy story side of it. Wants to be loved again lol
It's trying, we gotta help it!
As a teenager this was one of my favorite Pinball games
It's pretty awesome, for sure!
If you live around Kentucky, we'll have one up for play soon! I have 9 more videos to watch first haha
One of my fave system 11s..... I’d be going new playfield but can’t wait to see how you deal with it.
We'll see what we ca pull off...
This game always reminds of school summer holidays as it was installed at my local arcade at the start of said holidays back in 1987 (i think). Everything about it oozes that coolness factor that you very rarely see in either computer games or pinball today. Those ball locks stopped working about the time i had to go back to school :).
I cant believe it tried to work as much as it did!
That’s how I see it too man it’s trying let’s help it 😀
Yeah! Excited to see how this one turns out!
We're gonna work right through it!
Looks bad but it has a heart beat. I believe you can do it Ron. I see 7 videos in this one. Can not wait for video 2.
We're gonna do it!
This is going to be a great series Ron, really looking forward to see what you can do with this one.
It's gonna happen, let's do it!
Looking forward to the next video! This is one of my favourite pinballs. 👍
Very cool Jonas, we have more coming soon :)
F14 Tomcat washes up on a beach here.
5 minutes later, I've loaded it into my truck and I'm driving home. 👍
They're valuable even if they're in bad shape!
@@LyonsArcade They deserve to be saved. 😇
That speaker feedback is awesome! It's like communicating to us from 1990!
Help it Ronnie! It's speaking to you!
That theme song......here it? It don't get your heart pumpin' your dead! lol
👍👍👍
We're gonna get it going :) We're gonna help it out!!!!
I was just listening to the silver ball Chronicles podcast on spotify.
and they're going through the history of Bally's artists from mid 70's and late 80's.
In one of the machines you're talking about was night Rider just because I just seen it in this video.
But long story short the person who did the art of the backglass for it.
Through inspiration from his high school days.
And the woman was a friend of his and the man in the truck was his high school coach.
Just for future reference it's a pretty interesting podcast.
I just got done listening to the Steve Richie history for Williams.
Because F14 TOMCAT.
Also do a history for python Angelo and Steve Gomez.
Steve Ritchie's the man!
Oh man!!! This is gonna be a good one! Can’t wait Ron.
Thanks for watching Clint!
love your philosophy at the end!!! silicon life is just as important as carbon based!! :)
I like to save the stuff, other people who aren't even with us anymore spent some of their time and effort making this stuff, the least we can do is help it survive, the stuff tries to work with you a little bit, lol Thanks for watching Mike!
"if you play with rusty balls it'll tear up the artwork",,,
When I play with my balls I create artwork... *crickets*
lol
Oh wow, this brings back some memories.
Another awesome video from Joes Classic Video Games!
Thank you Wolf Web, glad you liked it!
There's some noise in the audio cables, but that sound board is functional.
Single bong on powerup = no errors detected
Yes it seems to be doing it's thing!
This is a great game. Interested in how the series turns out
We're gonna run right through it!
Its still working after all this hard years 😁👍
It's holdin' on, we gotta save it!
I so wish I had enough space for just one pinball machine!
Might have to sell something!
Wow. That game is in sad shape, but the fact that it actually still boots is promising. This is going to be fun to watch, and not just because I dropped a lot of money into these machines as a teenager. It's going to be interesting to see if the missing displays are actually dead, or if it's just the battery damage (or both). And remember, kids: _Don't play with rusty balls!_ (Sorry. I'm 51 years old, but my inner 12 year old had to giggle.)
I'll give you a preview of what's coming up, the battery damage is EXTENSIVE !
@@LyonsArcade Yuck! It so often is, unless you get lucky and catch it at the right time. Alright, so the missing displays probably _are_ due to battery corrosion. I'm not really surprised, since the bottom two displays seemed to be in such good shape (nice and bright, no flickering, etc). Makes you wonder if maybe the manufacturers should've put a bright orange warning label somewhere on the machine that says "Hey! There's batteries in the back box! Take them out before you put the machine in storage for 25 years!" 😉
F14 one of my favorite pinball machines.
And yikes...that playfield..
It's a masterpiece but this one has been abused!
I know but for reselling..
Either he's willing to spend the money to resell it..
But they play field..
If he want those blue and reds to pop... Either go with the restoration in the mylar..
Or just buy a new playfield..
A new playfield makes more sense in cost effectiveness.
Should be a fun one to watch!
See you on the next one!
Another great pinball machine to repair. Ron is amazing to watch repairing these. If you have not subscribed please do so. So you can get notices of the awesome uploads by Ron the wizard of pinball repair 👍😀
Thanks AK-Gyrator we appreciate the vote of confidence :)
You know Joe, you can send that pinball table to me i live in South Africa Capetown haha. :D
It's not mine though :)
@@LyonsArcade Bless, well if you ever have something like a fixer upper not worth your time think of me :D. They are so expensive over here and i see people just throw them out on the street sometimes over in america.
Ronnie you once remarked "got you sucha" the last time I heard that statement it was said by Mr T in the show The A-team
Played the shit out of this one back in the day at my local 7-11. Great game..
Did you ever try to remove the mylar with a paint friendly thinner, such as rubber cement thinner or lighter fluid? I know it's flammable but used with caution it mite work. I have used it on suck on tape,stickers and old plexi glass backing paper with pretty good success. Good luck.
Would it be possible to remove the inserts from the underside of the play field and then carefully trim the Mylar away from the holes and put new inserts in?
They're really hard to get out and only come out from the top (they have a little step on the hole so they only go through the top)....
Wow.. it has held on and trying for this long. Hope you can fix it. :)
Yup it's pretty sad it's been neglected like this, it's still trying to go though, lol We'll see if we can help 'er out!
I have a 2020 Black Knight sword of rage... what cleaner/wax should I be using just as general maintenance? I notice I'm getting some dirt tracks. ? Love your videos, learned a lot! We have a few older games (me and my buddy) and I now am confident I can fix nearly anything. =).
I use Carnauba wax like you can buy at the auto parts store, you can see some on our website www.LyonsArcade.com/parts.html .... That Black Knight Sword of Rage is pretty awesome, also designed by the same designer as this game, Steve Ritchie.
I know I am childish, but had to laugh when you talked about playing with rusty balls lol.
Seriously though, would be lovely to see this machine up and running, but I can see the playfield is a challenge.
The sound board works, but some of it does sound a bit messed up, distorted and a loud buzz in the background....
Looking forward to seeing how you tackle this one. It will certainly be more challenging than the Playmatic in the last series.
This one is a train wreck but we're going to get through it, all we have to do is work on everything in it and eventually it will be repaired :) Thanks for watching Brendan!
@@LyonsArcade Of course. You only release videos if they are already working :)
@@EsotericArctos haha you know me too well, LOL
Oh dear, that thing is in rough shape. I hope you can get that Mylar off without too much damage. Do you dare? :)
We're still thinking about it, lol
How often do you recommend swapping pinballs? btw, my gorf linear power supply was shot, so i'm getting it recapped. Hopefully that gorf will boot after that, i'm crossing my fingers. I did want to ask, Do you think swapping the linear psu for a switcher hurts it's collectable value?
I hope you do save this pin. It looks like it won't be too bad to fix. You always get thumbs ups from me.
On a Gorf, swapping the power supply with the switcher doesn't really hurt the resale in my opinion. There's nothing really special about that linear one, it does the standard voltages the switcher does so we've done it before. Pretty easy little swap too! We just swap the pinballs when they show any sign of pitting or rust.
@17:19 there is a distinct line in the shot of PF.
Was the lower half double overlay not top half!?
The lower half was mylar somebody installed, the top half only has a couple pieces of Mylar, but they're factory installed.... the lower part though is also over the mylar in front of the kickers, whew what were they thinkin :)
Noticed that one of the reflectors for the beacons was in the bottom cabinet with the other random stuff you was sorting through. Might have some extra work there with the beacons...
I figured that's what that was but didn't see where it went yet :)
@@LyonsArcade Well if it isn't a spare they're not that hard to put back on. The light bulb sockets on the other hand...
I have a Road Kings that had been playing great with no problems, now all of a sudden it is stuck in a very similar start up failure, any ideas what to do, since it was playing well now not?
It probably just has dead batteries.... turn if on, and if it's in test mode, hold down the 'advance' button inside the coin door until you get to the end of the settings and it should start up. We're going to go over all this in a later video.
@@LyonsArcade I have already tried replacing the batteries, no luck, local guy mention could be the main power board (original ). Also read where a bad flipper diode could jam up the power board
@@bobbuchman1925 What does it say when it comes up? If it's in the settings menu it's because it hasn't saved the settings... could be a problem with the batteries not making good contact with the holders or the holders have deteriorated, it shouldn't have anything to do with the power supply. If it doesn't boot into settings yes it could definitely be the power supply!
It does not boot into settings, when it first started , it would make a single bing after a while, then after a while more it would kind of get like in the video, now the GI will flicker a bit at first turn on and then stay at static GI, no other activity after being in for an hour or so
You can do it Ron, looks like its going to be a long one with that playfield?
Would twelve videos be too long on this one you think???
12 videos. Thats me sorted for the next two weeks! @@LyonsArcade
I’m can’t wait for more.
More is comin' soon!
What clear coat do you use once you've finished your touch-up paint? It brushes on too? Hoping to see how you get this mylar off.. your whole process. Staying tuned.
We don't brush the clear on, we just use Krylon clear coat in a spray can. You have to have everything super clean though if there's any wax the clear will bubble.
@@LyonsArcade Thanks, good to know. You completely depopulate playfield before spraying, or mask off surrounding areas?
@@808zhu We just mask off whatever's left on the playfield, but we don't go crazy with it, put a little tape around switches, etc. and just spot clear coat a little area. If you don't go crazy heavy with it, it blends in to the areas around it. The best way to do it is with auto clearcoat but takes a lot of time and money, we're just doing player machines people can enjoy not full restorations :)
@@LyonsArcade Awesome. That's what I'm planning on doing with my playfield wear.. just a nice, modest touch-up - nothing fancy. It doesn't have to be perfect, but it does need to be addressed. Once it's done I'll slap mylar over it (unless otherwise advised) and the next owner can do what they want. Player's condition is totally okay by me. It keeps that vintage charm. Thanks for the tips. 👍👍
This will be a good one. But also (in my best whiny RUclips watcher voice) "When are you going to work on that Night Rider" lol
hahaha it's becoming a running joke now, we may just keep it forever and never work on it so it's always in the background , LOL Hope you've been well man!
@@LyonsArcade I have been good. I think that Night Rider was there when I was there. Im making my way back down there soon. See ya then
Dang...looks as bad as the Taxi I have right now waiting for an overhaul. I think I'd be pulling the mylar on that one, I don't see any other way around that awful playfield.
It's a big job, I don't think the customer would want to pay for all that :)
Wise man told me it is better to wear out then get rusty.
Use it or loose it people.
Keep It Well Oiled!
@@LyonsArcade Oiled balls? You should get a Manscape sponsorship outa that!
Good luck with the playfield.
Thank you Richard, see you on the next video!
The sound chips are no longer available and had to be replaced by FPGAs if you are interested check out Jeri Ellsworth fixing the sound on a Pinball machine,BTW does this machine play any tracks from the movie TOP GUN.
It doesn't play any Top Gun tracks unfortunately, I think they were afraid they'd get sued! Thank you for watching David!
@0:01.... wait a minute.... how can i miss an episode? how did this happen?...... *likes, pauses and getting a cup of tea :-) *
ah.. the ESF yesterday :)
We missed you!
Wow....that is a mess, and is really sad to see that. I'm sure you could do quite a bit of work, but wow. So the million dollar question I have (I honestly don't know, but I do have my kevlar underwear on), do any companies exist that have artwork files that could be used to re-print the artwork? It may be cost prohibitive, but man, that would be great. F-14, Fireball 2, Black Knight, Need For Speed...just a few of my favorites.
Yes there are some overlays you can get, and everyonce in a while they remake some of the playfields.... very expensive though and a lot of work to install!
Check out the ROM pack from a pinball simulator. It will have an artwork pack with the playfield and inserts, even the backglass.
It might be worth tooling up if you do a lot of restoration.
A 3d resin printer for clear/colored light inserts.
A printer that can print vinyl for the playfield and other artworks.
Print media for transferring print onto glass is pretty easy to use and low cost nowadays.
Laser cutter.
@@DirtyRobot I have a friend that does in-home silk screening...he can handle back-glass sized pieces with his setup. I don't think he's ever done glass before, and usually only does 1 or 2 colors. That previous back glass that he had (must have been 17 colors on it) probably would not be done "in home" because of the steps and required registration....also the colors. Ink isn't cheap for silk screening, and it does have a limited life. I'll have to talk to my friend to see if he's ever done anything like that. Then again, I have to get myself a machine, but right now, people are charging about 5 times market price for these things (I've seen FireBall II's go for over $10K in 'playable" shape (i.e., it's a mess, but it works)).
@@WreckDiver99
I was suggesting an inkjet or DS transfer onto glass.
You can get specialist film/paper that you can print full color on. You then use a chemical to transfer it onto the glass.
After this process you would add a clear coat or similar protective layer.
I have also seen a heat bonded process, where the glass is printed on directly and then cooked in an oven to cure the print, but this process is high end and expensive.
It's like Lieutenant Dan, it's gonna get new legs!
Lieutenant Dan?!!..Lieutenant Dan..Ice cream!!
What an Epic Character he was... we think about that too all the time when a leg comes up :)
@@LyonsArcade Like peas and carrots?
It hasnt worked in awhile?..Yeah i know a few people like that..bloody slackers:D
You're up LATE, Nature Boy!
@@LyonsArcade or early lol..almost 415am Tuesday..got up to go to the bathroom and this video alert popped up..couldnt resist watching it..a school friend of mine had a Dr Who pinball in his garage a few years ago..full tardis noise and sound track etc..man i was blown away
Go on Ron we have faith :)
Hahaha well good then :)
Hello from Australia, just wondering why your videos are in 720p I have tried to adjust your videos to 1080p but no go, can you help here please, P. S your note pads we have the same saying here in Australia for that,hehehe...
Hmmm, i'm not sure about the 1080 thing, i'm not too technical but on my end it's letting me play it on youtube as 1080p in 60fps so maybe it was just having a bad night :) Thanks for watching Wayne, we appreciate it, even if you're stuck in old-school 720 :)
Thanks for the quick reply but it's been at 720p since the beginning, I have a optic fibre connection so super fast internet, so it's a wierd one for sure, I have been watching your channel for several months now. Anyway well done Sir.
Hey Ron, random question..do you or have you ever repaired 8bit computers like Atari or Commodore?
You could try retrobriting the clear beacon. Submerged in beauty shop grade hydrogen peroxide and exposed to either artificial UV light or real sunlight on a good hot day especially. I have achieved incredible results with title strip plastic in jukebox and some white pinball parts as well. It's an amazing hack!
Unfortunately it's got tons of little cracks in it...
@@LyonsArcade Yeah. In that case, I'd buy a replacement. They're not that hard to find. A bit expensive for a piece of clear plastic IMO, but in this case, worth it. It beats a yellowed, cracked beacon any day.
@@SpearM3064 Have you seen the white ones they've made? I went with a clear one like the original, but I guess at some point they redid it as a white one since the clear one is so bright when the light goes off... but man that white one looks horrible!
This one needs Your CPR to revive.
lol do they make a playfield for this one? I'm gonna check.... Nope... at least they make a Night Rider though! classicplayfields.com/shop/pinball-playfields/nightrider-playfield/
excellent game i would play this and big guns a lot
Big Guns is really fun too!
What about taking a sander to the mylar?
I'm afraid to do that!
Oh yeah we know he can fix it
We're gonna try!
I hate seeing games left in this condition.
I hope you can find a new playfield.
We're gonna have to make the best of this one!
It needs a, hard top ron
They don't make one...
Use water decals for your inserts... they have a very very low profile. Redo the black. And clear coat that puppy! 🤪
Sounds like a ton of work! Should I charge the customer for all that work?
Come on man take off the mylar. It will be awesome content!
Yeah for you :) For me it'll be a nightmare :)
@@LyonsArcade do it for the views!
We all know if you show the pinball machine it can be fixed :)
Well about any of them CAN be fixed, lol
Did you ever watch the episode of Twilight Zone where the slot machine tortured a man that was playing it
Nope but I'm going to go find that one :) I probably did see it because I think i've watched every episode, lol
"Frank-lin!"
too bad someone doesnt remake those fields- a large format printer could do it, would just have to recreate the art file. maybe a good business
Or see if he wants a whole new playfield? They do sell them.
Might be more expensive and time-consuming to fix. Just a suggestion.
He said his wife will kill him if the price gets too high up there, lol
Well ok. His wife is going to kill him.
A true scenario would be restore the playfield..
Or get a new play field.
And what would make her happy?
And the price difference on resellability?
Damn it we need to save him.
I guess to save him.
i was just going to suggest to heat the mylar to get it off.
if you can get new playfield art you could order new art and redo the playfield.
or if you get a junker machine where for example it has been in a flood and half of the cabinet is ruined but the playfield is ok you could replace the playfield.
sometimes it is worth the repairs if the game is in a level of vintage and rarity that it no longer exists.
If he wants to resell the machine one of the things those colors got to pop. A reproduction play field would make that happen without having to take off the old mylar. And probably less of a pain in the ass.
Good luck and God speed on that.
People put those reproduction playfields in their machines but I don't think he'd get his money back out of this title if he did that, they cost about $800 plus shipping, and it would be pretty expensive to take the time to swap the playfield, lots of work just getting all the sockets and wires and etc. swapped over to the new one.
I get it.. but those jewels need to POP for resale..
Especially for those playfield for Williams electronics..
That mylar is the hooking point..
Do you want a good game for your home.. with a possibility of resale?
Or outright...
Don't flip this machine unless you're intending to do it..
I'm not I'm not trying to be an a******..
At all.
But that playfield...
Either you try to lift that mylar or buy a new playfield? There's no way to fix those jewels..
Without lifting the mylar..
This customer needs to make some hard decision...
How much money they're willing to commit to fixing this game. And how much money are they going to get with this game on resell.
On the secondary market..
With out the blue and reds popping off..
The mylar is the key..
Major conundrum..
This dude need to make some hard decisions.. and how he invest in this game..
I've not being an a****** more realistic....sorry.
Those Panasonic batteries may be factory original
Possibly!
She needs some love no doubt
We're gonna get her fixed up!
how about a second hand playfield
Even just the shipping makes most stuff cost prohibitive, and if it's second hand it's not gonna be too much better than this one or they would have never pulled it out of whatever it was in you wouldn't think...
Why is the Dutch Amazon not in the list? amazon.nl
I had one but unfortunately not many people used it so they cancelled my Dutch account!
Mylar over wear is the worst. Not much you can do man.
Yeah I’ve been weighing my options and figured out there aren’t any lol
Never forget the minge👍
Always first in our hearts!
@@LyonsArcade lmao. 👍
@12:00 .... ................... >.
DON'T PLAY WITH RUSTY BALLS JEROEN
No one likes rusty balls... ;)
How dareeeee you 😳
@@LyonsArcade Hehe! Great rebuild, loving it. F14 definitely on my want list!
Lmfao dude I'm doing an F14 also just got it 2 days ago from a guy!
How's your playfield?
@@LyonsArcade better but dirty as heck. I repaired the mpu and the guy killed it again (melted coil) but good this time so he just brought the whole machine.
@@LyonsArcade I'll send some pics
IT'S BROKE.
ugh. the only 2 things i wanted to see that you just skipped over was how to open the back board and how to open the table. youtube is failing me today. :(