I’ve doing some homemade tapered leaders for Stillwater’s. I attach a tippet ring to make changing tippet easy and to keep the leader the length I want. But when attaching the tippet ring to the 15 or 20 lb leader material using a clinch knot, I flatten out the material directly over the knot. I’ve tried the different lubricating methods and types, and still have the problem. Any suggestions would be helpful
Half blood knot - do some tests. I use 4 turns and lube with spit - tighten up "softly, then "push the knot down to the ring" - meaning don't just pull the line tight. I never have problems with that way.
The great thing about the clinch knot is that the slack feeds back into the tippet, not into the tag. Saves a lot of retying of leaders. Rare in that kind of technical fishing to have to worry about the fact that the knot is not full line strength. In my time in fishing, the leaders are so much stronger that they basically made up the difference. And it wasn't normally an issue before that. The only times I break off fish with light tippets is when I ignore a nick or a wind knot.
Most don't know that a clinch or improved clinch can be used on braid also.With the majority of those claiming it's impossible to get it not to slip....... You must wrap it10-15 times instead of the 5-6 you do with mono so it doesn't slip.I do 15 on my #8 and 10 on #30.I haven't tried it yet on my #70 (shark/Ray setup) but I'm going to guess 8 wraps would be sufficient on it.You do not have to lube braid either.Sometimes you will have to help the knot seat though as it can sometimes try to grab it's self before you have it completely cinched down. I been using a clinch on braid since Fireline hit the market,I used it on mono most of the time before that,doing it this way I have never had a clinch slip and fail and it's the knot I tie 98% of the time between 3 others.The line always breaks somewhere above the knot.
A problem with a 100% knot is, that the line breaks somewhere else - usually at the area with most wear, or a small scratch. And it's not good for the line to have been stressed to the limmit - makes it brittle and prone to breaking, I guess. That can result in you loosing many meters of expensive line, and a looong piece of line for animals to get caught in. 1000 years ago I did a ton of tests, and suggest people do specific tests with the line and the "hook", to be sure, and then go for 95ish %. Best way I figured out was two identical hooks with different knots on the line between them. Hang a bucket in the thing, fill it with water or whatever til break - weigh the bucket. Always do the same amount of turns aso - never let anything to chance. Some monos can achieve 100% strenght, if you put it through the eye twice - but then we are back to the start of my comment. And my first "big" sea trout was caught with a line from a worm hook sticking out of its moth - the angler had not tighened well enough and cut the kine to close to the hook, so the was a nice little curl in the end of the line.
@@rider660r Lol yourself Mr Knowitall - I NEVER break a line, unless I get snagged - as we do a lot, when fishing salmon and sea trout in danish rivers in day time. As the old farts say at Karup river, where the sea trout can be over 30 pds: "If you don't catch bottom, you won't catch fish". But I also prefere to be able to pull my flies loose, instead of loosing them, bcz they aren't free, and having to think to much about that, makes people not fish optimal, besides I don't want to have to think, that I just might loose the fish of my life, bcz I jumped over, where the gate was low - I NEVER take any chances with my gear.
Yeah and that's called a Improved Clinch Knot...................look it up and learn something once,since you never looked at a dictionary or use spell check.
@@seizedcarcass8440 I've been an angler for more than 50 years, and I've never seen anyone claim, that it is stronger than "half bloodknot" before. Just googled it, and saw a claim of 95%. I believe, that tat is less than the half bloodknot - that, with some lines, can have a 100% strenght, if you run the line twice through the eye og the hook, and use the "lock". But - no matter what claims there are, I suggest, that the angler does some tests with the exact line and "hook", and choose depending on their results. Important thing is, to not over stress the line, so it becomes brittle, which is the reason, that I newer use the twice through the eye aproach.
@@seizedcarcass8440 Just looked a bit more, and found Popular Science, that agree with you, and with me - they call the half blood a Trilene knot, except when I did the tests, I didn't stick the end through the double loop but as an "ordinary lock". Next time I go fishing, I'll do some new tests - bcz I'm not beond taking advice and learning new things.!
Agreed that the spin is a great method, but in my experience is most optimal for larger flies/hooks. Around size 16-18 or smaller the fly is hard to handle, at least for me.
@@mrnick10 So, when I'm fishing like a size 22 midge or something, I take my hemostats and clamp them around the bend of the hook and then spen the hemos to wrap. SUPER fast and easy.
In your playlist "knot tying", there is only one video. However, the "Davy knot" video (ruclips.net/video/-NTVZAZ0xQA/видео.html) should be on that playlist as well. The video was posted on May 14, 2014, and it is an excellent knot.
The first segment is unnecessary. In the first segment you show viewers how to do the knot without saliva or similar, why, I dont know. Knot without a saliva or similar aint gonna last. Your first impression of the knot is teaching people bad habits.
The first part is an introduction to the clinch knot describing how it is most often used, which is very important particularly to those new to knot tying. In the introductions I do in fact wet my fingers with saliva and apply it to the knot before tightening it. This is why my right hand leaves the screen at the :30 second mark then comes back and rubs the knot with the saliva. But thanks so much for looking REALLY hard to find something wrong with the video.
@@XfireWTF I figured that much when his hand left the screen........and then returned to rub the twists of line. Criticism is one thing but being a imbecile is another and that's where I come in and let you know,you're one.
Thanks Tim, getting back to basics👍
I’ve doing some homemade tapered leaders for Stillwater’s. I attach a tippet ring to make changing tippet easy and to keep the leader the length I want. But when attaching the tippet ring to the 15 or 20 lb leader material using a clinch knot, I flatten out the material directly over the knot. I’ve tried the different lubricating methods and types, and still have the problem. Any suggestions would be helpful
Half blood knot - do some tests. I use 4 turns and lube with spit - tighten up "softly, then "push the knot down to the ring" - meaning don't just pull the line tight. I never have problems with that way.
I’ve bent hooks before 4lb mono failure, retrieving snags or fighting large fish using quality hooks with the trilene knot. 🍻
I'll definitely be giving the Trilene knot a try.
The great thing about the clinch knot is that the slack feeds back into the tippet, not into the tag. Saves a lot of retying of leaders. Rare in that kind of technical fishing to have to worry about the fact that the knot is not full line strength. In my time in fishing, the leaders are so much stronger that they basically made up the difference. And it wasn't normally an issue before that. The only times I break off fish with light tippets is when I ignore a nick or a wind knot.
Love this video! Great explanation!
I've always liked the Palomar knot
Thanks Dad!
Lost my dad last year; I was thinking the samething.
Do you use a double surgeon knot to add tippet like nearly 100% of fishermen, or claim a blood like nearly 100% claim?
It's a great knot
Awesome tutorial....Thanks!
I use the trilene knot often when using a heavy wire hook with thin diameter tippet when the regular clinch knot will slip.
Does it also slip, if you use the "lock"?
The classic "Half-blood knot" aka "clinch knot"
Yep - the best, by far..
Most don't know that a clinch or improved clinch can be used on braid also.With the majority of those claiming it's impossible to get it not to slip.......
You must wrap it10-15 times instead of the 5-6 you do with mono so it doesn't slip.I do 15 on my #8 and 10 on #30.I haven't tried it yet on my #70 (shark/Ray setup) but I'm going to guess 8 wraps would be sufficient on it.You do not have to lube braid either.Sometimes you will have to help the knot seat though as it can sometimes try to grab it's self before you have it completely cinched down.
I been using a clinch on braid since Fireline hit the market,I used it on mono most of the time before that,doing it this way I have never had a clinch slip and fail and it's the knot I tie 98% of the time between 3 others.The line always breaks somewhere above the knot.
A problem with a 100% knot is, that the line breaks somewhere else - usually at the area with most wear, or a small scratch. And it's not good for the line to have been stressed to the limmit - makes it brittle and prone to breaking, I guess. That can result in you loosing many meters of expensive line, and a looong piece of line for animals to get caught in. 1000 years ago I did a ton of tests, and suggest people do specific tests with the line and the "hook", to be sure, and then go for 95ish %. Best way I figured out was two identical hooks with different knots on the line between them. Hang a bucket in the thing, fill it with water or whatever til break - weigh the bucket. Always do the same amount of turns aso - never let anything to chance. Some monos can achieve 100% strenght, if you put it through the eye twice - but then we are back to the start of my comment. And my first "big" sea trout was caught with a line from a worm hook sticking out of its moth - the angler had not tighened well enough and cut the kine to close to the hook, so the was a nice little curl in the end of the line.
@@CONEHEADDK LOL If you set your drag properly you shouldn't ever be breaking line unless you get snagged........
@@rider660r Lol yourself Mr Knowitall - I NEVER break a line, unless I get snagged - as we do a lot, when fishing salmon and sea trout in danish rivers in day time. As the old farts say at Karup river, where the sea trout can be over 30 pds: "If you don't catch bottom, you won't catch fish". But I also prefere to be able to pull my flies loose, instead of loosing them, bcz they aren't free, and having to think to much about that, makes people not fish optimal, besides I don't want to have to think, that I just might loose the fish of my life, bcz I jumped over, where the gate was low - I NEVER take any chances with my gear.
@@CONEHEADDK 🤣
I bet those knots are so good people just ask you to tie on a fly lure or jig for the person who asked
You can do a short version,
3x times Wrap around 1 time Tru the loop 1x true the made loop. pull to finish
Yeah and that's called a Improved Clinch Knot...................look it up and learn something once,since you never looked at a dictionary or use spell check.
@@rider660r grow up
@@jackwrademaker7430 Awwww,you want a tissue or a tampon....or both?
@@rider660r Cough cough - shouldn't there have been a comma after "Yeah"?
@@CONEHEADDK Nope
I can tie the clinch knot but I prefer the palomar knot and the uni knot. So many knots out there though.
Why?
@@CONEHEADDK Palomar is stronger and is simple to tie. It also works great with any type of line.
@@seizedcarcass8440 I've been an angler for more than 50 years, and I've never seen anyone claim, that it is stronger than "half bloodknot" before. Just googled it, and saw a claim of 95%. I believe, that tat is less than the half bloodknot - that, with some lines, can have a 100% strenght, if you run the line twice through the eye og the hook, and use the "lock". But - no matter what claims there are, I suggest, that the angler does some tests with the exact line and "hook", and choose depending on their results. Important thing is, to not over stress the line, so it becomes brittle, which is the reason, that I newer use the twice through the eye aproach.
@@seizedcarcass8440 Just looked a bit more, and found Popular Science, that agree with you, and with me - they call the half blood a Trilene knot, except when I did the tests, I didn't stick the end through the double loop but as an "ordinary lock". Next time I go fishing, I'll do some new tests - bcz I'm not beond taking advice and learning new things.!
An easier way to tie it is to spin the hook around
Thats exactly how i do it. Just twist the hook.
Agreed that the spin is a great method, but in my experience is most optimal for larger flies/hooks. Around size 16-18 or smaller the fly is hard to handle, at least for me.
@@mrnick10 yeah i hear ya. Where i live i dont really deal eith that small of fly. 14 at smallest
@@mrnick10 So, when I'm fishing like a size 22 midge or something, I take my hemostats and clamp them around the bend of the hook and then spen the hemos to wrap. SUPER fast and easy.
I want total control - I turn the line around 4 times, grabbing it with my mouth each time.
In your playlist "knot tying", there is only one video. However, the "Davy knot" video (ruclips.net/video/-NTVZAZ0xQA/видео.html) should be on that playlist as well. The video was posted on May 14, 2014, and it is an excellent knot.
Thanks for pointing that out Paul. I think we now have a better playlist. The Davy Knot is one of my favorites as well.
The first segment is unnecessary. In the first segment you show viewers how to do the knot without saliva or similar, why, I dont know. Knot without a saliva or similar aint gonna last. Your first impression of the knot is teaching people bad habits.
The first part is an introduction to the clinch knot describing how it is most often used, which is very important particularly to those new to knot tying. In the introductions I do in fact wet my fingers with saliva and apply it to the knot before tightening it. This is why my right hand leaves the screen at the :30 second mark then comes back and rubs the knot with the saliva. But thanks so much for looking REALLY hard to find something wrong with the video.
@@tightlinevideo I REALLY didnt spend much time, I noticed it right away.. You have a good way reacting to criticism.
@@XfireWTF I figured that much when his hand left the screen........and then returned to rub the twists of line.
Criticism is one thing but being a imbecile is another and that's where I come in and let you know,you're one.