Independent Suspension for Electric Skateboards? [ShocBoard Systems Interview - Esk8con 2023]
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- In this video, I lead a technical interview with the founder and lead designer of the ShocBoard Systems line of products. David, from ShocBoard Systems, brings us an awesome new innovation to the electric skateboarding accessories scene, and I'm excited for the future of this product!
The ShocBoard Systems company has two products they are bringing forward, the ShocBox, and the Trick-Stick. Both of these systems are Patent Pending and trademarked, so unsurprisingly, they are a brand new development worth being protected.
The ShocBox is a fully independent electric skateboard suspension system that uses a torsion spring and offset axle to provide 40mm of travel to each corner of your board. This ShocBox system at time of recording is designed to fit onto DKP trucks from Evolve and Hadean, but more trucks are planned to be supported in the future, theoretically, as long as the pivot cup geometry is similar to the Meepo / Evolve ones, you should be able to use them with any DKP truck.
The Trick-Stick is a longboard accessory that brings you both a forward and rear "handle" or grip of sorts that you can use as a pseudo-binding, or a half binding, as well as for dragging the board or, I suppose, doing tricks. This Trick-Stick has locking positions around its axis of rotation, and can be adjusted for Regular or Goofy riders in binding mode, and for a number of angles in handle mode.
David seems like a really great guy, and it was a great time talking to him! This product is not fully released yet, but you can check out more information about it here on their website!
shocboardsystems.com/
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Timestamps:
00:00 David from ShocBoard
00:40 Two Systems
00:53 Independent Suspension
01:51 Drive Wheel ShocBox
02:38 Trick-Stick
03:05 What's Included
04:00 Trick-Stick on Hadean
04:37 Trick-Stick Demo
05:28 Why a Torsion Spring?
06:29 Only DKP?
07:09 Trick-Stick Handles
08:01 Riptide Pivot Cups & Bushings
08:33 Threaded Torsion Adjustment
08:53 Preload for Rider Weight
09:24 Rider Weight Compatibility
10:58 Offset Axle Position
11:07 Motor Size
11:29 SLS Nylon Belt Guards
12:06 Unique Motor Mount
12:46 New Axle
13:07 Enduro Pivot Bearings
13:59 Peek at Torsion Spring
14:09 Bump Stop
15:04 About the Patents
16:11 Outro
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The idea that this can be dropped into existing boards, if they fit, is fantastic. Im normally not very interested in these sorts of things, because theyre kinda gimicky.. but this looks like it could be actually.. um. actually good :)
Yeah, it seems to do its job really well. Pretty expensive to test out though. Definitely one of those things you would wanna try before spending the money
Wow they improved a lot in one year, that's solid! Putting a lot of work testing the system and that's great! I'll be definitely getting one.
I didn't actually get a chance to compare the new version to the ones from last year, but they had a pretty epic setup at esk8con, and seem to be designing for new boards!
It is beautiful to see such scientific innovation in such a niche subsection of society. No matter how great and fun it is.🍀
Totally agree! The designer is a super nice guy too, love to see it.
This is so cool I hope it catches on so the competition goes up and price goes down
It is definitely a cool concept! I don't think anyone else has done something like it yet, only suspension I've seen is the type that's on the Z3 or on the propel boards.
Damn,just got back into boards & I thought about this & someone came out with this,awesome
They are pretty awesome and the guy that makes them is an inspiring individual. They're now available on pre-order, but are quire pricey. The owner has worked with some of our local riders to produce content and from what I've seen they seem to be quite durable, and just might be worth the money if this is the specific thing that you're looking for.
Take my money! Great product ❤
I'm excited to try it out on a real trail!
Nice video, these are some of my Favorite ppl. The reason you might had bottom it out is because this one was set up for Dave's Wife Beth who is about 145 lbs. I believe this was her board. The final Product will be more refined with full adjustability aswell as the test units Coming Soon. Shore its not for everybody but they definitely got Something here.
Thanks Don - Yah, I know, I think they were all set up for lower weights tbh. I'm excited for the final product later this summer.
This looks dope AF. Hope to come to market soon i wanna try!
I would love to try them on a powerful board and see how they do!
⚡🤙🏼 *Really unique and interestin design* 🤙🏼⚡
The fact that it offers more than just one feature is really good!
I agree, it's cool that there's two new unique features for sure
I ride mostly back dirt roads and this will be a complete game changer for me. I’m excited to be able to ride these areas without the vibrations.
I'm excited to take them on a trail too, hoping to make a video with the set we get for SDESK8
@@RBEMotion I’ll be waiting for the video
The trick stick seems like it would be perfect for a pivoting camera pole mount.
That's a pretty good idea!
nice tpu suspection
Does seem to be a cool package! I look forward to trying it on a more high powered board someday.
Are any in stock, saw these months ago and just got reminded of them the other day?
Looks like they still aren't in stock yet, might still be working on testing phases? Production can be pretty slow on new products like this
Damn. They are a bit pricey. But then what e skate premium accessory isn’t?
But yeah. Would be lovely to pick up a set of these for $300.
Yeah - out the gate, they are quite high. Lots of high quality components and small volume will do that. I think we (SDESK8) may end up working with David a bit to get some excellent real-world testing done. My hope is they hold up to their price point.
im dissapointed. that independant suspension system will actually only make stability less predictable compared to a mountainboard config with mtb shock system. having independant wheel movement can also cause them to be natural and less responsive
Have you ever seen broken trucks yeah how about adding more moving parts to them
You definitely make a valid point, especially with DKP trucks. Obviously, riding on a flat road or even going off curbs and stuff you probably won't notice too much, but maybe offroad you would experience some more instablity. I suppose it depends on how hard your bushings are as well.
From time to time yeah, would be great if these were made compatible with Exway forged/cnc trucks, they seem to break less often than the cast ones. Still not perfect tho, maybe one day it'll be compatible with some other CNC TKP's or something like that. As for the more moving parts, yeah, we have yet to see, since these prototypes at esk8con were the only ones out there right now.
@@NilsnVanyes and no individual suspension means that there will be less load on on the suspension… solid axle is double the load and random uneven pressures
I need those
disgustingly overpriced
Lol by the new comments I can see that they have now released for preorder.. Checking now - wow! Yeah, they are quite pricey. It seems a bit high, but anyone with experience in manufacturing will know that these things cost a ton to make, and use a lot of quality components. Maybe one day, they will come down in price.
@@RBEMotion nah no time for delusional stuff look at the normal dkp trucks they got price vs other brands it's double it's not a lill there's no excuse considering I compare with brand dkp not alibaba for example so if u got money to throw ok but u can't say that delusional stuff here some ppl know the prices
@@alexcoli Delusional is a very strong word to use, and not really fair, as I am someone who is aware of how much small batches cost. If you don't want to buy it, then don't. It's a brand new, never before seen piece of tech for esk8s. With time, it may come down in price. Either way, it is still cool, and I am excited to see it getting tested.