Dr Erica, Thank you so much for this video to help horse owners in their quest to determine if their horse has neurological issues. You are such a good educator!! I am a veterinary nurse in Ireland and we need equine vets like you here!! 🐎❤️
@@SpringhillEquineVet There is no sound on this video! Please reupload it! It is dead silent, and it's not my device. I tried everything to remedy it, and it's definately the video. By 10 minutes in there are 4 places so far where there is suddenly a blurb of music or other sound, then nothing again. I don't know why others have watched it with no problems, but there is DEFINATELY something wrong!
@@SpringhillEquineVet There is no sound on this video! Please reupload it! It is dead silent, and it's not my device. I tried everything to remedy it, and it's definately the video. By 10 minutes in there are 4 places so far where there is suddenly a blurb of music or other sound, then nothing again. I don't know why others have watched it with no problems, but there is DEFINATELY something wrong!
Thank you Dr. Erica! I have an older gelding that my barn manager thinks may have EPM, however I think that it is more just that the horses is unfit as his coordination has and does improve with regular rehab type work alongside things like equitape and supportive therapies like bodywork. For some of these tests, such as the crossing of legs in a turn or a reluctance to back up can "failing" that test simply be a lack of strength/training if they are relatively equal on both sides? He has improved when Ive worked with him on it to build up his core and overall conditioning.
"Failing" some of these can be an indication of muscle loss, and improving strength leading to improving test results will cause me to lean that direction. However, I also try to figure out why there was muscle loss. For many of these older horses there is more than one component to their issues.
Is this an age appropriate neurological test for a young horse.? 2yr old. Should I expect my PPE vet to perform these tests on a 2 yr old? What if a young horse hasn’t been handled enough to do the basics? Is it fair to say you may not get the property answers.? Thank you Dr. Latcher , Justin and Piper
For youngsters without a lot of handling we generally try to set up situations that ask them to do tight turns back and forth and observe their limbs. It is definitely harder to get a full picture of the status of the "wild" ones. However, if they've been handled we often do all the same tests.
What do you think of the tail pulling to know if they have neurological problems? And how do you do it, by pulling the tail in the same direction the horse is about to put its weight on? Or doesn't matter, you pull constantly while they are walking?
Tail pulling is a good test, but needs to be interpreted carefully. I perform the test by having one person walk the horse, while I pull the tail to the side while they are walking. I alternate pulling while weight is on the foot on my side and while it is in the air, then switch sides and repeat. Be very careful when doing this test. Some horses HATE you pulling on their tail and will try to kick you for real. What I'm looking for is an inability to stay upright when I apply pressure. This doesn't mean they fall. It usually means the hind feet go in some very obviously wrong places. Normal horses do yield to the pressure. Especially if they have any level of training. We teach horses to yield to pressure so don't look for a complete pull against you. It's more when I add pressure can you keep walking, or does the system go a bit haywire?
Great video, thank you so much. I've read that vitamin E deficiency can cause neurological issues in horses. My horse moved from Tenessee (lush pastures everywhere) to Texas (pretty much a nuclear wasteland) three months ago. Is that enough time to develop a deficiency?
Vitamin E deficiencies tend to take 6-8 months to develop. They also rarely develop in horses on good quality diets. If your horse is eating a commercially available concentrate you are safe!
Is there any exercise I can do to a horse with a weak hind end, that did not pass vet check because of this, I like to think this is not a neurological dysfunction,he use to trip a lot more as a younger horse, but has gotten so much better in a yr, thinking hoping there is exercises I can do to help my 4 yr old gelding.
Thank you so much for this at 12:29 (and before when you sped up the small circles) what if the horse doesn't lift their front feet, but instead twists them and rotates over them (only moving the hind) until they get so bunched up they move the outside front but never stop spinning over the inside front. My mare just had this exam today and had this issue.
I try to add more forward motion. If I can't get them to circle without planting their front feet no matter what I try, then that can be an indication there are some neuro issues
There is no sound on this video! Please reupload it! It is dead silent, and it's not my device. I tried everything to remedy it, and it's definately the video. In 2 places so far there is suddenly a blurb of music, then nothing again. I don't know why others have watched it with no problems, but there is DEFINATELY something wrong!
This was the most comprehensive neurologic exam I’ve seen. Thank you for making the time to make this video.
Dr Erica, Thank you so much for this video to help horse owners in their quest to determine if their horse has neurological issues. You are such a good educator!! I am a veterinary nurse in Ireland and we need equine vets like you here!! 🐎❤️
Comprehensive. Thank you.
what a great video! Thank you!
Love, love, love your podcasts!
I do too!!!
Fantastic and so thorough!! The test to determine the possibility of Wobblers just wondering could that also reveal an Ecvm issue?
I was wondering the same.
Yes, that will show up!
@@SpringhillEquineVet There is no sound on this video! Please reupload it! It is dead silent, and it's not my device. I tried everything to remedy it, and it's definately the video. By 10 minutes in there are 4 places so far where there is suddenly a blurb of music or other sound, then nothing again. I don't know why others have watched it with no problems, but there is DEFINATELY something wrong!
Thanks for making this video! 2nd Semester vet student
Welcome to the team!!!!!
@@SpringhillEquineVet There is no sound on this video! Please reupload it! It is dead silent, and it's not my device. I tried everything to remedy it, and it's definately the video. By 10 minutes in there are 4 places so far where there is suddenly a blurb of music or other sound, then nothing again. I don't know why others have watched it with no problems, but there is DEFINATELY something wrong!
Very interesting!
Thank you Dr. Erica! I have an older gelding that my barn manager thinks may have EPM, however I think that it is more just that the horses is unfit as his coordination has and does improve with regular rehab type work alongside things like equitape and supportive therapies like bodywork.
For some of these tests, such as the crossing of legs in a turn or a reluctance to back up can "failing" that test simply be a lack of strength/training if they are relatively equal on both sides? He has improved when Ive worked with him on it to build up his core and overall conditioning.
"Failing" some of these can be an indication of muscle loss, and improving strength leading to improving test results will cause me to lean that direction. However, I also try to figure out why there was muscle loss. For many of these older horses there is more than one component to their issues.
That is a beautiful horse!
Great! Thanks!!
Built like my mare I got 3 years ago, and she also has neck arthritis.
Is this an age appropriate neurological test for a young horse.? 2yr old. Should I expect my PPE vet to perform these tests on a 2 yr old? What if a young horse hasn’t been handled enough to do the basics? Is it fair to say you may not get the property answers.? Thank you Dr. Latcher , Justin and Piper
For youngsters without a lot of handling we generally try to set up situations that ask them to do tight turns back and forth and observe their limbs. It is definitely harder to get a full picture of the status of the "wild" ones. However, if they've been handled we often do all the same tests.
Breaking a safety rule to never be on your knees!
What do you think of the tail pulling to know if they have neurological problems? And how do you do it, by pulling the tail in the same direction the horse is about to put its weight on? Or doesn't matter, you pull constantly while they are walking?
Tail pulling is a good test, but needs to be interpreted carefully. I perform the test by having one person walk the horse, while I pull the tail to the side while they are walking. I alternate pulling while weight is on the foot on my side and while it is in the air, then switch sides and repeat. Be very careful when doing this test. Some horses HATE you pulling on their tail and will try to kick you for real. What I'm looking for is an inability to stay upright when I apply pressure. This doesn't mean they fall. It usually means the hind feet go in some very obviously wrong places. Normal horses do yield to the pressure. Especially if they have any level of training. We teach horses to yield to pressure so don't look for a complete pull against you. It's more when I add pressure can you keep walking, or does the system go a bit haywire?
Great video, thank you so much. I've read that vitamin E deficiency can cause neurological issues in horses. My horse moved from Tenessee (lush pastures everywhere) to Texas (pretty much a nuclear wasteland) three months ago. Is that enough time to develop a deficiency?
Vitamin E deficiencies tend to take 6-8 months to develop. They also rarely develop in horses on good quality diets. If your horse is eating a commercially available concentrate you are safe!
Is there any exercise I can do to a horse with a weak hind end, that did not pass vet check because of this, I like to think this is not a neurological dysfunction,he use to trip a lot more as a younger horse, but has gotten so much better in a yr, thinking hoping there is exercises I can do to help my 4 yr old gelding.
Yes! Check out this video for some great strengthening exercises: ruclips.net/video/BK6EUw9Qhks/видео.html
Thank you so much for this at 12:29 (and before when you sped up the small circles) what if the horse doesn't lift their front feet, but instead twists them and rotates over them (only moving the hind) until they get so bunched up they move the outside front but never stop spinning over the inside front. My mare just had this exam today and had this issue.
I try to add more forward motion. If I can't get them to circle without planting their front feet no matter what I try, then that can be an indication there are some neuro issues
Maybe she needs a neck adjustment?
There is no sound on this video! Please reupload it! It is dead silent, and it's not my device. I tried everything to remedy it, and it's definately the video. In 2 places so far there is suddenly a blurb of music, then nothing again. I don't know why others have watched it with no problems, but there is DEFINATELY something wrong!
I don't have a good answer for you as these have sound on all the devices we've tried them on
My device is fine. I think it's just something wrong with your devices. it seems everyone's sound is fine.