Since you mentioned Belle being based of Sarah Connors from terminator, its worth noting that Bull has a terminator skin (B-800) that most people just didn't understand or forgot
On the brawl stars esports channel, there is a series called who stole the trophy. Belle mentions how she couldn’t have stole it and proved how it was Jessie. This proves the exited as 2 different people. So this theory contradicts itself.
Or maybe Belle just hides that she is Jessie. Accually that way only her younger self would be put to prison or something (if caught) and not both of them
(I'm just gonna copy and paste the same reply) Who Stole the Trophy is annoying, but it doesn't contradict anything. She's not Belle's kid, and she didn't commit the crime I think what you're implying is that Belle would have committed the crime when she was a kid (Jessie), but that's not the case Young Belle was born in an entirely different timeline than Jessie. Probably a post apocalyptic one like the Terminator Universe. The Trophy didn't even exist until she goes back and changes time But by the point WSTT takes place, she's already 60-70, and it's the first time happening. Because it's a butterfly effect which made it into a different timeline
@@SubZeroTurnipSo you do believe jessie and Belle exist separally in this new timeline but jessie wont become Belle because belle pretty much altered reality
@@PhBTTbr Precisely! "Our" Jessie could theoretically go back in time, but I don't think that's going to happen because it didn't work the first time (not permanently at least)
@@SubZeroTurnip Thats a really interesting theory i did get the simileratis bettew jessie and belle when belle was announced but i just tough jessie inspired herself in belle my brain would never go to this theory thats soo cool
OH. MY. GOD! to be honest i was never convinced by the theory of Belle and Jessie being one and the same person, but now it all makes sense, Belle's intentions line up perfectly, everything fits. Although, i do have a question: is who stole the trophy canon? Because in ep 7 we see Belle talking about Jessie, solving the crime that she created and even saying "glad she aint my kid", would that change anything in the timeline you showed? sorry if it doesnt make sense lmao, i just finished watching and still need to sort it out in my head. Also, i really, REALLY love your theories and appreciate your effort!! Keep up the hard work!!! (also, im glad you said the Sam and Colt theory is wrong!) i cant wait for more theories of yours!!!!!!
@@All-STARRs yeah, ur comment's pretty much right i think, it all depends on if who stole the trophy is happening in the canon timeline or is it only there as an addition
Who Stole the Trophy is annoying, but it doesn't contradict anything. She's not Belle's kid, and she didn't commit the crime I think what @ALL-STARR722 is implying is that Belle would have committed the crime when she was a kid (Jessie), but that's not the case Young Belle was born in an entirely different timeline than Jessie. Probably a post apocalyptic one like the Terminator Universe. The Trophy didn't even exist until she goes back and changes time But by the point WSTT takes place, she's already 60-70, and it's the first time happening. Because it's a butterfly effect which made it into a different timeline
This was truly, if not, the most convincing binding of the lore that is all over the place. Hoping we get more key pieces soon that will help to complete the lore in the best and most evident way.
Great analysis! Made me think back to the times the investor video released, it was wild 😄 Hoping the next update has a mirror season to Colette's, so we can have more lore expansions!
I just thought of something so you know how K-pop music plays at the beginning of the wkbrl? What if that was Melodie singing it? Idk maybe I’m not too deep into the lore.
15:40 so the robots are the ones trained by us for the word domination that StarPark wants, and not the brawlers? Did Sam and Belle built all the robots in the factory? How did the robots get revolted agains them and are they now working for star park corp? Is star park even controling any of the chaos that's curently happening? I have so many questions and they might be stupid or adressed in the video so sorry for that. The lore is very complex and your theories even more, and i want to fully understand them. Also amazing video, one of my favorites for both impling Jessie and Belle as the same person (time traveling) while also acknowledging Belle being Colt's mother. This part of the theorry is also really hard to understand cuz of the aging factor; how is belle aging but others not, but i am sure in a next theorry or from an official source this will be better clarified.
1. Same difference, we're the ones controlling the brawlers after all 2. I think they designed them and built the robots BEFORE they revolted. After that they're the running the robot factory by themselves. Robots probably became sentient due to the gems 3. I think so? They're the ones controlling the timeloop and resetting it in modern day 4. This is definitely the hardest part of the theory right now, and the timeloop may have to take place not long after the CCTV rather than in the 2020's, which prevents anyone from aging... It puts Belle at around 50 years old which isn't impossible, but she must've been under a lot of stress for her hair to go completely white
At the start of the video I was quite sceptical, but at the end it somehow all made sense, fascinating :D And I guess that would also explain Darryl's behavior, why he pretends to be a pirate while he kind of isn't.
I have a theory : what if Belle was the future version of Piper.I know it sounds weird but here is why; we know from the description of belle that she wants to find out the truth behind starr park so what if somthing terreble will happen in the future something that the only way to stop it is backing in time to prevent it from happening and i have some evidence first the player icon of belle and piper are almost identical i mean that both of them stand in the same position blinking with the right eye and smiling also in the beta of brawl stars piper description was "Piper de la Prim is always the **Belle** of the Brawl. All class to begin with ,she was also top of her class in sharpshooting" not to mention that both of them is a sniper. knowing that, it's now make sense why pearl starr is not the dauther of sam starr it's the daughter of the future rico that's why she is a robot and that's why she is baking explosive cookies just like her mum that use to bake bombs (you can watch the piper animation in brawl stars chanel for those who do not know)and that' why Sam is hating robots he hate Rico because he is in a relationship with Piper(Belle). i have some other notes that im not sure of: -The only brawler who can build a time machine is pam or jessie and in my opinion it is jessi. we saw her alredy triying to enter the wkbrl room so maybe she will be a member in spude in the future. Also this is explain the similarity between Belle and Jessie's weapons what if future Jessie is the one who makes Belle's sniper and teach her how to deal with robots. But hey that's just a theory a random comment theory! (if you read all of this thank you)
i think next update might be about starr park bcuz i noticed theyre repeating seasons, this season is about monsters again like season 2 and last season was about ramadan, (season 1) maybe but just baybe next season is about s3?
Do you mean like they correspond to Brawl Talk themes? We have the Viking season between the Sands of Time and Godzilla seasons, and we already know that the next season will be hacker themed. However, they did use Sands of Time and Godzilla for the thumbnails, so if the theory is that the next Brawl Talk is going to be another lore drop then that's still viable to happen.
I see a medieval themed pass next with the leaked Mortis concept skins and Frank king skins, but i wish this or the other season pass to be related to lore as you sugest
13:35 this is a great theory and i mostly like it and would love to know if that was real I would love to see that type of lore in pve missions if they would do something like that But i can assume by official art that was showed a bit earlier that creating colt robot wasn't in the plans of the goldarm duo at that time In previous post about robot factory season in crowd of robots you can see a robot that looks at the colt's wig and i can assume that he just took that wig Btw this situation kinda reminds me of Darryl's recent new description about robot wearing a hat and petend to be someone they are not
Might not be fully in topic... But is it possible that the gems in CCTV footage are hyper charges? Both purple, and both make brawler go crazy? Just a shout
That would make a lot of sense. I dont know if you remind this, but there are two types of radiation in Starr Park, green and purple. Considering that both things have opposite, (Showdown Cubes and purple drinks, green and purple drinks) hypercharge and mutations as representations of this types of radiation, makes a lot of sense
The effects on the mental state of those in the game, assuming they remember the events of previous loops, it would be utter madness for them at first, but as the brainwashing and control goes on and they believe more and more that the loop is normal, they would get used to it. Unless they are actively trying to resist the mind alteration and hang on to their former self (Webmaster Colette headcanon). It would explain a lot of the erratic behavior in game because on top of the other things, everything ends the same for them and nothing really matters. And if nothing matters, you can do whatever you want. In short, a lot of those in the game have adopted a "live to the fullest and do what you want because nothing matters" mindset. Probably nobody shows that mindset more than the more insane and chaotic ones.
Your last theory with the simulation stuff made me think that the brawlers were super soldiers. Forced to fight every day endlessly. Becoming better and stronger each time. Perhaps the gems were a way to supplement the strength (or any special ability) the brawler has in the real world. With certain abilities being supplements for actual weapons ( some examples include charlie maybe using and immobilization gun, pam using a minigun, draco with a flame thrower) although this makes certain brawlers like kit and carl confusing, what would those brawlers use that replicates those skills? Experiments perhaps? Maybe its to set atmosphere?
I believe Kairostime was the first one to suggest that, and currently there's just no evidence for it. Everything that the CCTV shows suggests the gems were an accident I'm not saying it's an impossibility, especially with how Supercell sometimes takes inspiration from the community, but it's more an explanation rather than a theory
@@SubZeroTurnip I have a really outrageous theory I came up with yesterday while trying to sleep. Take this with a grain of salt First we start with the nazis, I'm not kidding. During the height of ww2 they attempted to make a race of super soldiers known as the ubermensch(being based off a philosophical thought). The project failed in the end. Know we jump to Starr corp. Many Japanese companies were forced into producing arms during this time along with just trying to help with the war effort. We know star corp existed before 1980, it likely may have taken decades to develop/find a simulation/alternate universe-meaning Starr corp was likely formed during the Pre-nagishima Era of Japan (aka imperial japan). Back to nazis. After the failure of the ubermensch, they may have handed the project to imperial Japan. Either of the following events may have happened. But it leads to same result Japan adopts the ubermensch plan. Having Starr park use their universe to train their soldiers infinitely. American scientists discover Starr corp's Alternate universe/simulation having it be American scientists could explain why all the characters speak English. Starr corp starts developing soldiers for America. Do you know who hates Americans AND Japanese? The soviets (who didnt fall until 1991). This can give mild explanation why the WKBRL radio says "strong signal" in Russian. Maybe the soviets were trying to take out Starr corp from the outside? Idk This theory is really dumb and definitely has little validity. I hope it inspires some new ones tho
Your theories are the best. Keep cooking. Whether the theory that Belle and Jessie are one and the same person is canon or not, the rest of what you presented perfectly works as Belle's backstory and it sounds really badass. I am the kind of person that likes to ask questions about things they like though... So the "alternate universe" thing, the custom and default skins being completely different from one another. This can be explained with "it's just them but from different timeloop" But how does this exactly connect everything back to the whole meta thing? Why is Brawl Stars a mobile video game?
It goes back to what we talked about in Dead and Alive, I believe the simulation was created to control the real world (see the director's pointer crashing through the roof). This may even be how they control time: a more advanced version of the diorama (aka brawl stars) could be rewound and reset But with the introduction of the CCTV, the line between "brawlers are their own characters" and "brawlers are brainwashed people from the real world" is getting kinda blurry. And I'm starting to wonder if they're going with both in a "Reality Shifting" sort of way. (Weird source, but you can check out the Odd1sOut video on it) As for why is it a mobile game? Well, it has to be. The mobile game existed before the lore, and they wanted to get meta. So my best guess is money, they are a greedy corporation after all
In the deep sea brawl loading screen and animation colt and belle are both there but aren’t shocked to see each other. Does this mean skins are other people?
Don't get me started on skins, they're just one of those subjects that completely baffle me... As of right now there's not a lot of evidence to come to a definite conclusion, but if I had to guess they're different "versions" of them
I'm pretty sure it's an explanation for the Skin Theme/Group Skins get hacked, leading to a mutation in their appearance (virus charlie, fang, and 8-bit), AI Enhanced crypto bots (Larry and Lawrie? Or possibly just default robots) are sent in, but its too late and everyone else gets infected with the computer virus
Although my other comment might sound a little critical, just wanna say that the theory is still very well argumented and, although I don't 100% agree for consistency reasons, I can definitely see it being the truth Also that link with "Dragons aren't weapons" is amazing, huge props for finding that
I noticed that all of the game modes happen somewhere in Starr park Showdown happens in the ruins of the wild west area And Gem Grab in the mines And heist happens in the any sourding area of Where ever Max And His Friends are in the park
I'll get working on a timeline video to explain it in full, but Belle wouldn't have stolen the trophy when she was young (Jessie), because the trophy didn't even exist in her timeline The only way that modern Jessie can steal the trophy is after Belle goes and prevents the apocalypse/disasters from happening. It's a butterfly effect which changes everything
@@Ocram0 In the third episode of time to explain, after devs were asked whether there would be official confirmation of the brawlers' ages, they started joking about it, saying "why do you guys need to know about it", meaning *that one rule of internet* by this. And Dani jokingly said that Sam is 13 (or 30, but judging by the context, he probably meant 13). This is if, of course, we are talking about the same thing😅
Hello, I would like to ask a question about the timeloop, if it starts in 1995, then why do new fighters come to Brawl Stars who know about RUclips (chester) and smartphones (emz), if since 1995 every day should be the same and nothing shouldn't change. Maybe each cycle is different and pauses. What about Groundhog Day, should there just be canonical events on the same day?
That's a great point! Right now I think it's more of a "Miss Peregrine's home for Peculiar Children" set of rules. In that universe, it's more of a time "bubble" which can you go in and out of. If you leave the bubble you go back to present day, but if you go in, it takes you to a day in WW2 that a group of kids have been living in for over 50 years. So time is still moving forward for them, but they haven't aged a day. And items from the modern world can still be brought into the timeloop without it breaking the rules. If I had to guess that was more of an oversight (EMZ also existed before the lore was made), but it also explains why things can still happen in 2024, as the Cyberbrawl theme states
@@SubZeroTurnip Thanks a lot for the reply. It also seems to me that one season of brawl pass is one time cycle, after which another timeloop immediately begins.
But there's only one thing I don't understand. How did they manage to put only the park and not the whole world in the time loop, maybe they really managed to create some kind of sphere that separates this park from the earth, and the curvature of the world affected only the park, excluding the outside world.
If they reset the history everytime something goes wrong What if the trailers are the branched timelines that rember the Brawl Pass Season 2 trailer the animated one I think it could Be a branch timeline And all the skins in Brawl Stars are from those diffrent branch timelines
yo dude if you go into brawl stars and go to quest, there will be a image at the top left and look at that image very carefully and you will see something on the left
I'm assuming you're talking about the Season Banner, and it's nothing important, just a reused asset from a community post made 3 years ago, but thanks for letting me know!
Hold on, I thought the cctv was an alternate timeline happening within the simulation My proof would be that 1) It's a direct contradiction of original lore so an alternate universe would be the only explanation (except for time travel if your theory is proven correct) 2) So far, everything in the simulation was shown through a cartoonish/in-game style while everything in the real world through live action. Going off this, TVTHY could be placed in a limbo of sorts as it doesn't have a style, meaning it could pertain to any or both the timelines
It's a valid theory, and the only thing I can really say about it is that it makes it a little bit less connected to the story if it's an alternate universe/timeline. Though that's not a critique of the theory itself
Yeah, the IV happened first, and then the CCTV came after the timeline was reset They are technically different dimensions though, but both are following the same order of events. Imagine it like the Upside Down from Stranger Things, where the worlds are connected and changed by each other, but they both have their unique differences
@@SubZeroTurnip And the CCTV career that we saw in the game takes place in a simulation (unlikely, otherwise how could such graphics exist at that time), or was it simply made as an animated story that took place in this world.
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Wait a minute, if WKBRL is in the Brawl Stars universe, and if the investor video universe was rewritten, does that mean that Ranter is literally Dynamike? Like, not even a person with his skin, but a literal Dyna himself? Why then did he talk about student loans and other things in the long term, if the discovery of gems and the release of poison gas (The moment of the end of his rant) occurred in a month and a half?
I think the rant takes place in the Investor Video's universe before the reset, given the alarms that take place on the radio are the same as the ones at the end of the IV. Now, the weird part of this is that this implies that his mind is able to be transferred to a time PAST the reset, into current-day Brawl Stars... So to answer your question, I still think he's had his mind transferred across time and realities into "modern day" brawl stars where we control them, but the characters shown in the CCTV might be separate entities that get "possessed" by past versions of themselves. But I'm still trying to organize everything into a timeline theory, so, let me get back to you on that, lol
I think you're referring to the CCTV? Which is *not* a timeloop because that happens before it We get the weather everyday in The Voice That Hears You timeloop, and to quote the weather guy, "the forecast is sunny and fine. The temperature is 74 and sunny," which he repeats like 20 times over
@@Spence-Mp3 I don't think they're "seasons" so much as it's just the weather in that part of the park. It's always snowing in the Snowtel because it's the theme In the R-T animation we see that the weather is clear and sunny in Brawlywood, but dark and gloomy immediately next to it in Haunted Haven, implying that Starr park has some control over the weather
Amazing theory , there is just a little to disgus about belle and jessie being the same person Last time you said it it made no sense but now it fits well there is just one problem , other brawlers age if jessie was supposed to go back in time to 1960 how does colt exist that time If she is supposed to age from that time why others dont Also if its all true belle calling jessie , "glad i aint her mom" in esports video is actually really sad
I'm assuming you're talking about the intro of the Investor Video? So that's not really "Colt," it's a theme park worker that dresses up as the character. Starr Park brainwashes people into thinking they're brawlers, i.e. Kairos Tim saying "you don't have to worry about becoming a brawler yourself." And that scene later in the video where the cashier grows sharp teeth to look more like Colette. It's just like how any disney park mascot isn't really that character, just an impersonator
@@SubZeroTurnip Thats begs questions , what really are the characters,they are all starr parks mascots and all the brawlers are actors playing them?? How do we diffrentiate an actor from the brawler What if the brawlers are the characters and actors become the said characters What about characters that we know were visitors that turned into brawlers but are still used by starr park as mascots . Do starr park put a curtain on everything saying nah dont worry they are our newly created mascot How does that all work with colt , if there is a colt mascot there is a colt character , if colt is character then how is he sam and belle's son , if belle is not a character made by starr park but rather a time traveler
@@SubZeroTurnip i also believe in that , to be precise cctv looped back to 1995.1.1 after the anniversary and everything happend stayed the same Though that can answered because the camera was removed from the menu in december 31th but the site was still available for some day Anyway if brawlers stopped aging and entered a time loop in 1995-1996 And bell/jessie would enter 1950 as a 10 she can have colt in her 20s and colt will be 30 by the time of cctv but then shouldnt belle/jessie also age till that date not the current year and be a 50yo woman Eh time travel is always head scratching
@@colonbrace2249 So there's a butterfly effect which prevents all the brawlers from being born until many years later. Unless there's something going on with aging in this universe, but Bull's description talks about how he was rowdy in his youth so yup, very confusing
The security trio isn't complete yet and I don't think there's much left to analyze there. It's a similar case with Draco. The only thing that's really interesting to me about him is his description, which I mention in this video, and then the animated music video, which can mostly be chalked up to a young Draco having an overactive imagination
@@SubZeroTurnip I was just wondering about the last member for the Security, due to some of Larry's Voicelines. The Draco question was mostly filler because I just wanted something new(I've been getting Brainrot from the Mr P/Gene, and contradictory theories on my TT feed)
Fan made, all offical sources have a paper trail leading back to an offical source like Brawl Talk or the game itself. Most imposter channels also have pretty low production quality
Hold up there's sumthing i dont understant. The CCTV takes place in the 90's right. In one of the CCTV footage, Colt was present and everyone knows belle is his mother and like u said belle is jessie when she was a kid right. Then how the hell is jessie is in the simulation along with Pam ? If Colt is an adult and was adult in the 90's cuz he's not aging, how jessie aged from the 90's to the present. And how Colt is existing in Jessie's era if they are mother and son ? Either ur theory is completly wrong or my brain is not braining.
No, you bring up some good points. But it's the same case with Leon/Nita, why haven't they aged between 1995 and 2000's? And I think the answer might be that the timeloop instead takes place not long after the CCTV. It makes Belle around 50 years old instead, which is still plausible, but she must've been under some serious stress to go completely white at that age It's a really weird concept, because Bull absolutely has aged a little bit-- with his description saying he's "not as carefree/rowdy as he was in his youth," so the canon information about how they age is a little fuzzy
Supercell said that Jessie and Colt aren't related but if Jessie is Belle then they are related so either this theory is wrong or colt is not related to belle right?
PAUL said Jessie and Colt "had no relation," and many things he's said have been getting retconned anyways. I mention Colt's "scar" here which probably isn't even a scar anymore (because Sam has it too), but the bottom line is he no longer works for Supercell, and they're now choosing to go in a different direction That being said-- the statement is technically true. Jessie obviously isn't a mom, which means she wouldn't have any relation to Colt. Only Belle, who was Jessie as a child, would grow up to have a kid. But current Jessie wouldn't even know who Colt is
I'm saying they're variants of the same person, but Belle would have grown up in the 1960's, while Jessie is growing up in the 1990's. They're two different timelines. Same reason we see 8-bit come alive in the Investor Video, and then again in 1995. Two variants of the same brawler So Belle wouldn't have stolen the trophy when she was a child, because e-sports didn't exist back then
Because it's only spoken in a WKBRL sound clip that no longer exists, its english translation "Super Giant Starr Corporation" gets you more results Doesn't help that neither the Investor Video nor WKBRL even exist in their original source anymore
Since you mentioned Belle being based of Sarah Connors from terminator, its worth noting that Bull has a terminator skin (B-800) that most people just didn't understand or forgot
On the brawl stars esports channel, there is a series called who stole the trophy. Belle mentions how she couldn’t have stole it and proved how it was Jessie. This proves the exited as 2 different people. So this theory contradicts itself.
Or maybe Belle just hides that she is Jessie. Accually that way only her younger self would be put to prison or something (if caught) and not both of them
(I'm just gonna copy and paste the same reply) Who Stole the Trophy is annoying, but it doesn't contradict anything. She's not Belle's kid, and she didn't commit the crime
I think what you're implying is that Belle would have committed the crime when she was a kid (Jessie), but that's not the case
Young Belle was born in an entirely different timeline than Jessie. Probably a post apocalyptic one like the Terminator Universe. The Trophy didn't even exist until she goes back and changes time
But by the point WSTT takes place, she's already 60-70, and it's the first time happening. Because it's a butterfly effect which made it into a different timeline
@@SubZeroTurnipSo you do believe jessie and Belle exist separally in this new timeline but jessie wont become Belle because belle pretty much altered reality
@@PhBTTbr Precisely! "Our" Jessie could theoretically go back in time, but I don't think that's going to happen because it didn't work the first time (not permanently at least)
@@SubZeroTurnip Thats a really interesting theory i did get the simileratis bettew jessie and belle when belle was announced but i just tough jessie inspired herself in belle my brain would never go to this theory thats soo cool
OH. MY. GOD! to be honest i was never convinced by the theory of Belle and Jessie being one and the same person, but now it all makes sense, Belle's intentions line up perfectly, everything fits. Although, i do have a question: is who stole the trophy canon? Because in ep 7 we see Belle talking about Jessie, solving the crime that she created and even saying "glad she aint my kid", would that change anything in the timeline you showed? sorry if it doesnt make sense lmao, i just finished watching and still need to sort it out in my head. Also, i really, REALLY love your theories and appreciate your effort!! Keep up the hard work!!! (also, im glad you said the Sam and Colt theory is wrong!) i cant wait for more theories of yours!!!!!!
Yeah I also wrote a comment about who stole the trophy
@@All-STARRs yeah, ur comment's pretty much right i think, it all depends on if who stole the trophy is happening in the canon timeline or is it only there as an addition
Who Stole the Trophy is annoying, but it doesn't contradict anything. She's not Belle's kid, and she didn't commit the crime
I think what @ALL-STARR722 is implying is that Belle would have committed the crime when she was a kid (Jessie), but that's not the case
Young Belle was born in an entirely different timeline than Jessie. Probably a post apocalyptic one like the Terminator Universe. The Trophy didn't even exist until she goes back and changes time
But by the point WSTT takes place, she's already 60-70, and it's the first time happening. Because it's a butterfly effect which made it into a different timeline
@@SubZeroTurnip oh, in that case that made my confusion clear! Thanks!! And once again, absolutely loved this theory!!
@@SubZeroTurnip And some of the lines could mirror Jessie’s thoghts that Belle is like Pam but,twisted
This was truly, if not, the most convincing binding of the lore that is all over the place. Hoping we get more key pieces soon that will help to complete the lore in the best and most evident way.
cant wait for Matpat/Tom, Turnip and Kairos make a Starr Park theory.
*i need it*
@James-oc2yx Matpat from GTL, Tom from Game Theory
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He did it 2-3 years ago as a colab w/ Kairos
that lavados guy is really smart (thanks so much it really meant a lot to me
Thanks for telling me! You're the reason I connected those two theories
Finally someone seeing why Pearl makes sense.
Great analysis! Made me think back to the times the investor video released, it was wild 😄
Hoping the next update has a mirror season to Colette's, so we can have more lore expansions!
perfect timing, i was literaly just watching some of your other theories 🙃
I just thought of something so you know how K-pop music plays at the beginning of the wkbrl? What if that was Melodie singing it? Idk maybe I’m not too deep into the lore.
15:40 so the robots are the ones trained by us for the word domination that StarPark wants, and not the brawlers?
Did Sam and Belle built all the robots in the factory? How did the robots get revolted agains them and are they now working for star park corp?
Is star park even controling any of the chaos that's curently happening?
I have so many questions and they might be stupid or adressed in the video so sorry for that. The lore is very complex and your theories even more, and i want to fully understand them.
Also amazing video, one of my favorites for both impling Jessie and Belle as the same person (time traveling) while also acknowledging Belle being Colt's mother. This part of the theorry is also really hard to understand cuz of the aging factor; how is belle aging but others not, but i am sure in a next theorry or from an official source this will be better clarified.
1. Same difference, we're the ones controlling the brawlers after all
2. I think they designed them and built the robots BEFORE they revolted. After that they're the running the robot factory by themselves. Robots probably became sentient due to the gems
3. I think so? They're the ones controlling the timeloop and resetting it in modern day
4. This is definitely the hardest part of the theory right now, and the timeloop may have to take place not long after the CCTV rather than in the 2020's, which prevents anyone from aging... It puts Belle at around 50 years old which isn't impossible, but she must've been under a lot of stress for her hair to go completely white
You didn't upload in 4 weeks, but it was worth the wait!!
You're explaining everything so clear and you have good reasonings, keep up the good work ✌️
I try to upload at least once a month, and some shorts if I can, the problem is I'm a super slow editor
@@SubZeroTurnip It's worth the wait tho, lol
At the start of the video I was quite sceptical, but at the end it somehow all made sense, fascinating :D
And I guess that would also explain Darryl's behavior, why he pretends to be a pirate while he kind of isn't.
I may be planning something, sooner or later
I have a theory : what if Belle was the future version of Piper.I know it sounds weird but here is why; we know from the description of belle that she wants to find out the truth behind starr park so what if somthing terreble will happen in the future something that the only way to stop it is backing in time to prevent it from happening and i have some evidence first the player icon of belle and piper are almost identical i mean that both of them stand in the same position blinking with the right eye and smiling
also in the beta of brawl stars piper description was "Piper de la Prim is always the **Belle** of the Brawl. All class to begin with ,she was also top of her class in sharpshooting"
not to mention that both of them is a sniper. knowing that, it's now make sense why pearl starr is not the dauther of sam starr it's the daughter of the future rico that's why she is a robot and that's why she is baking explosive cookies just like her mum that use to bake bombs (you can watch the piper animation in brawl stars chanel for those who do not know)and that' why Sam is hating robots he hate Rico because he is in a relationship with Piper(Belle).
i have some other notes that im not sure of:
-The only brawler who can build a time machine is pam or jessie and in my opinion it is jessi. we saw her alredy triying to enter the wkbrl room so maybe she will be a member in spude in the future. Also this is explain the similarity between Belle and Jessie's weapons what if future Jessie is the one who makes Belle's sniper and teach her how to deal with robots.
But hey that's just a theory a random comment theory! (if you read all of this thank you)
In the quests section of Cyberbrawl season, at the top left, you can see that wifi-looking symbol again.
i think next update might be about starr park bcuz i noticed theyre repeating seasons, this season is about monsters again like season 2 and last season was about ramadan, (season 1) maybe but just baybe next season is about s3?
Do you mean like they correspond to Brawl Talk themes? We have the Viking season between the Sands of Time and Godzilla seasons, and we already know that the next season will be hacker themed. However, they did use Sands of Time and Godzilla for the thumbnails, so if the theory is that the next Brawl Talk is going to be another lore drop then that's still viable to happen.
I see a medieval themed pass next with the leaked Mortis concept skins and Frank king skins, but i wish this or the other season pass to be related to lore as you sugest
1 month after, they're repeating the monster season again, the season is called "gods vs monsters"(I'm pretty sure we already had another god season)
I was literally just thinking about your lore videos yesterday, hoping we’d get something new soon. Thank you 🎉
Fun fact rico has the same voice as the boss bot but its just pitched up
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Nice vid! I hope the lore doesn’t drive you too crazy!
SubZero you're actually MatPat omg this timeline is so cool
Bro is gonna be homeless if supercell reveals the story
I always wondered why Nani and Pearl looked so similar... this makes too much sense to be wrong 😲
13:35 this is a great theory and i mostly like it and would love to know if that was real
I would love to see that type of lore in pve missions if they would do something like that
But i can assume by official art that was showed a bit earlier that creating colt robot wasn't in the plans of the goldarm duo at that time
In previous post about robot factory season in crowd of robots you can see a robot that looks at the colt's wig and i can assume that he just took that wig
Btw this situation kinda reminds me of Darryl's recent new description about robot wearing a hat and petend to be someone they are not
Whaaa- this makes so much senseee, I love this 😭😭😭😭
Ain't no way they teased Draco that long ago
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Yeah, if this is not a coincidence and they actually looked back to make Draco be related to those sequences, then they trully deserve our respect
I think it was an Evil Queen Pam reference
Might not be fully in topic... But is it possible that the gems in CCTV footage are hyper charges? Both purple, and both make brawler go crazy? Just a shout
That would make a lot of sense.
I dont know if you remind this, but there are two types of radiation in Starr Park, green and purple.
Considering that both things have opposite, (Showdown Cubes and purple drinks, green and purple drinks) hypercharge and mutations as representations of this types of radiation, makes a lot of sense
@@Shade_5237 and everyone in the CCTV footages have a hypercharge (except 8-bit)
That's surprisingly plausible
Was gonna say that
Another thing is that Colt may have also gotten his red hair genetics from Belle as Jessie also has red hair
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The effects on the mental state of those in the game, assuming they remember the events of previous loops, it would be utter madness for them at first, but as the brainwashing and control goes on and they believe more and more that the loop is normal, they would get used to it. Unless they are actively trying to resist the mind alteration and hang on to their former self (Webmaster Colette headcanon). It would explain a lot of the erratic behavior in game because on top of the other things, everything ends the same for them and nothing really matters. And if nothing matters, you can do whatever you want. In short, a lot of those in the game have adopted a "live to the fullest and do what you want because nothing matters" mindset. Probably nobody shows that mindset more than the more insane and chaotic ones.
Your last theory with the simulation stuff made me think that the brawlers were super soldiers. Forced to fight every day endlessly. Becoming better and stronger each time. Perhaps the gems were a way to supplement the strength (or any special ability) the brawler has in the real world. With certain abilities being supplements for actual weapons ( some examples include charlie maybe using and immobilization gun, pam using a minigun, draco with a flame thrower) although this makes certain brawlers like kit and carl confusing, what would those brawlers use that replicates those skills? Experiments perhaps? Maybe its to set atmosphere?
I believe Kairostime was the first one to suggest that, and currently there's just no evidence for it. Everything that the CCTV shows suggests the gems were an accident
I'm not saying it's an impossibility, especially with how Supercell sometimes takes inspiration from the community, but it's more an explanation rather than a theory
@@SubZeroTurnip I have a really outrageous theory I came up with yesterday while trying to sleep. Take this with a grain of salt
First we start with the nazis, I'm not kidding. During the height of ww2 they attempted to make a race of super soldiers known as the ubermensch(being based off a philosophical thought). The project failed in the end. Know we jump to Starr corp. Many Japanese companies were forced into producing arms during this time along with just trying to help with the war effort. We know star corp existed before 1980, it likely may have taken decades to develop/find a simulation/alternate universe-meaning Starr corp was likely formed during the Pre-nagishima Era of Japan (aka imperial japan). Back to nazis. After the failure of the ubermensch, they may have handed the project to imperial Japan. Either of the following events may have happened. But it leads to same result
Japan adopts the ubermensch plan. Having Starr park use their universe to train their soldiers infinitely.
American scientists discover Starr corp's
Alternate universe/simulation having it be American scientists could explain why all the characters speak English. Starr corp starts developing soldiers for America.
Do you know who hates Americans AND Japanese? The soviets (who didnt fall until 1991). This can give mild explanation why the WKBRL radio says "strong signal" in Russian. Maybe the soviets were trying to take out Starr corp from the outside? Idk
This theory is really dumb and definitely has little validity. I hope it inspires some new ones tho
Your theories are the best. Keep cooking.
Whether the theory that Belle and Jessie are one and the same person is canon or not, the rest of what you presented perfectly works as Belle's backstory and it sounds really badass.
I am the kind of person that likes to ask questions about things they like though...
So the "alternate universe" thing, the custom and default skins being completely different from one another. This can be explained with "it's just them but from different timeloop"
But how does this exactly connect everything back to the whole meta thing? Why is Brawl Stars a mobile video game?
It goes back to what we talked about in Dead and Alive, I believe the simulation was created to control the real world (see the director's pointer crashing through the roof). This may even be how they control time: a more advanced version of the diorama (aka brawl stars) could be rewound and reset
But with the introduction of the CCTV, the line between "brawlers are their own characters" and "brawlers are brainwashed people from the real world" is getting kinda blurry. And I'm starting to wonder if they're going with both in a "Reality Shifting" sort of way. (Weird source, but you can check out the Odd1sOut video on it)
As for why is it a mobile game? Well, it has to be. The mobile game existed before the lore, and they wanted to get meta. So my best guess is money, they are a greedy corporation after all
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In the deep sea brawl loading screen and animation colt and belle are both there but aren’t shocked to see each other. Does this mean skins are other people?
Don't get me started on skins, they're just one of those subjects that completely baffle me... As of right now there's not a lot of evidence to come to a definite conclusion, but if I had to guess they're different "versions" of them
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I heard that the employes of area 51 only enter by private planes and the like control or sum is named janet airline maybe that has like some meaning
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Ah, fellow belle enjoyers. Also hi, we meet once again.
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How Tyrannical Turnip feels after waffling faster than light just to explain Brawl Stars lore
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How are you so good at making theories?! Im honestly blown away. 😳 Keep up the amazing work man! 💪
Bro really justified the boss bot re using rico's voicelines
You're making MatPat proud
Have you seen the menu theme for the next season? The lyrics have some interesting lore in them you chould check it out.
I'm pretty sure it's an explanation for the Skin Theme/Group
Skins get hacked, leading to a mutation in their appearance (virus charlie, fang, and 8-bit), AI Enhanced crypto bots (Larry and Lawrie? Or possibly just default robots) are sent in, but its too late and everyone else gets infected with the computer virus
Loved this one
Although my other comment might sound a little critical, just wanna say that the theory is still very well argumented and, although I don't 100% agree for consistency reasons, I can definitely see it being the truth
Also that link with "Dragons aren't weapons" is amazing, huge props for finding that
I noticed that all of the game modes happen somewhere in Starr park Showdown happens in the ruins of the wild west area And Gem Grab in the mines And heist happens in the any sourding area of Where ever Max And His Friends are in the park
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The "Who Stole The Trophy" series is the only contradiction here. Other than that this is a really good theory.
I'll get working on a timeline video to explain it in full, but Belle wouldn't have stolen the trophy when she was young (Jessie), because the trophy didn't even exist in her timeline
The only way that modern Jessie can steal the trophy is after Belle goes and prevents the apocalypse/disasters from happening. It's a butterfly effect which changes everything
@@SubZeroTurnip Now it actually makes sense!
Never thought the lore of a mobile game could be so damn complicated 🤣🤣🤦🤦
Btw in the second or third time to explain
They confirmed that same and belle are 30s
It was a joke answer if i understood you correctly
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Oh? Thats weird. I dont remember them joking about it
@@Ocram0 In the third episode of time to explain, after devs were asked whether there would be official confirmation of the brawlers' ages, they started joking about it, saying "why do you guys need to know about it", meaning *that one rule of internet* by this. And Dani jokingly said that Sam is 13 (or 30, but judging by the context, he probably meant 13). This is if, of course, we are talking about the same thing😅
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Ohhh
Back then i didnt know the difference between thirty(30) and thirteen(13)
So maybe that why i thought he said he 30s…
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Hello, I would like to ask a question about the timeloop, if it starts in 1995, then why do new fighters come to Brawl Stars who know about RUclips (chester) and smartphones (emz), if since 1995 every day should be the same and nothing shouldn't change. Maybe each cycle is different and pauses. What about Groundhog Day, should there just be canonical events on the same day?
That's a great point! Right now I think it's more of a "Miss Peregrine's home for Peculiar Children" set of rules. In that universe, it's more of a time "bubble" which can you go in and out of. If you leave the bubble you go back to present day, but if you go in, it takes you to a day in WW2 that a group of kids have been living in for over 50 years.
So time is still moving forward for them, but they haven't aged a day. And items from the modern world can still be brought into the timeloop without it breaking the rules. If I had to guess that was more of an oversight (EMZ also existed before the lore was made), but it also explains why things can still happen in 2024, as the Cyberbrawl theme states
@@SubZeroTurnip Thanks a lot for the reply. It also seems to me that one season of brawl pass is one time cycle, after which another timeloop immediately begins.
But there's only one thing I don't understand. How did they manage to put only the park and not the whole world in the time loop, maybe they really managed to create some kind of sphere that separates this park from the earth, and the curvature of the world affected only the park, excluding the outside world.
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If they reset the history everytime something goes wrong What if the trailers are the branched timelines that rember the Brawl Pass Season 2 trailer the animated one I think it could Be a branch timeline And all the skins in Brawl Stars are from those diffrent branch timelines
Most things are purple like colletes and lolas clones hypercharges gems
Belle was added after starr park so maybe she became like her own victim or something
Just putting random theories here
Bro good luck with next season cause yk with the seasons like being again maybe also some time thing with the time traveling
Next season is the colette seasob
yo dude if you go into brawl stars and go to quest, there will be a image at the top left and look at that image very carefully and you will see something on the left
I'm assuming you're talking about the Season Banner, and it's nothing important, just a reused asset from a community post made 3 years ago, but thanks for letting me know!
@@SubZeroTurnip oh 😭 I thought the upside down wifi was important in the lore
Hold on, I thought the cctv was an alternate timeline happening within the simulation
My proof would be that
1) It's a direct contradiction of original lore so an alternate universe would be the only explanation (except for time travel if your theory is proven correct)
2) So far, everything in the simulation was shown through a cartoonish/in-game style while everything in the real world through live action. Going off this, TVTHY could be placed in a limbo of sorts as it doesn't have a style, meaning it could pertain to any or both the timelines
It's a valid theory, and the only thing I can really say about it is that it makes it a little bit less connected to the story if it's an alternate universe/timeline. Though that's not a critique of the theory itself
As I understand it, CCTV after changing the timeline, or initially ,making IV a different reality?
Yeah, the IV happened first, and then the CCTV came after the timeline was reset
They are technically different dimensions though, but both are following the same order of events. Imagine it like the Upside Down from Stranger Things, where the worlds are connected and changed by each other, but they both have their unique differences
@@SubZeroTurnipThank you
And WKBRL V3 takes place in the cctv timeline or IV (original timeline)
@@Yeahnikita14887 I'm assuming you're talking about The Voice That Hears you, and that would take place in the CCTV timeline
@@SubZeroTurnip And the CCTV career that we saw in the game takes place in a simulation (unlikely, otherwise how could such graphics exist at that time), or was it simply made as an animated story that took place in this world.
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Wait a minute, if WKBRL is in the Brawl Stars universe, and if the investor video universe was rewritten, does that mean that Ranter is literally Dynamike? Like, not even a person with his skin, but a literal Dyna himself? Why then did he talk about student loans and other things in the long term, if the discovery of gems and the release of poison gas (The moment of the end of his rant) occurred in a month and a half?
I think the rant takes place in the Investor Video's universe before the reset, given the alarms that take place on the radio are the same as the ones at the end of the IV. Now, the weird part of this is that this implies that his mind is able to be transferred to a time PAST the reset, into current-day Brawl Stars...
So to answer your question, I still think he's had his mind transferred across time and realities into "modern day" brawl stars where we control them, but the characters shown in the CCTV might be separate entities that get "possessed" by past versions of themselves. But I'm still trying to organize everything into a timeline theory, so, let me get back to you on that, lol
@@SubZeroTurnip Aight, thanks for the explanation! I'll be waiting for updates on the theory
Hey, if the time is reset every 24 hours than how is it possible that the seasons still change? Shouldn't it be sunny all year long?
I think you're referring to the CCTV? Which is *not* a timeloop because that happens before it
We get the weather everyday in The Voice That Hears You timeloop, and to quote the weather guy, "the forecast is sunny and fine. The temperature is 74 and sunny," which he repeats like 20 times over
@@SubZeroTurnip No, I mean like for example we see them celebrating Christmas and there is visible snow.
@@Spence-Mp3 I don't think they're "seasons" so much as it's just the weather in that part of the park. It's always snowing in the Snowtel because it's the theme
In the R-T animation we see that the weather is clear and sunny in Brawlywood, but dark and gloomy immediately next to it in Haunted Haven, implying that Starr park has some control over the weather
If u load in a game in this season. In the background u can see a sign to the left that says a year and star park is this a hint?
W and K are us location information for radio so wkbrl is in at least 2 locations
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Me thinking he is gonna say "but thats just a theory GAME THEORYYYYYYYY'😢
Bro managed to put 4 years of lore into one video 😶
Amazing theory , there is just a little to disgus about belle and jessie being the same person
Last time you said it it made no sense but now it fits well there is just one problem , other brawlers age if jessie was supposed to go back in time to 1960 how does colt exist that time
If she is supposed to age from that time why others dont
Also if its all true belle calling jessie , "glad i aint her mom" in esports video is actually really sad
I'm assuming you're talking about the intro of the Investor Video? So that's not really "Colt," it's a theme park worker that dresses up as the character.
Starr Park brainwashes people into thinking they're brawlers, i.e. Kairos Tim saying "you don't have to worry about becoming a brawler yourself." And that scene later in the video where the cashier grows sharp teeth to look more like Colette. It's just like how any disney park mascot isn't really that character, just an impersonator
As for aging, I think the timeloop might have to take place shortly after the CCTV in order for Leon and Nita to stay kids
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Thats begs questions , what really are the characters,they are all starr parks mascots and all the brawlers are actors playing them?? How do we diffrentiate an actor from the brawler
What if the brawlers are the characters and actors become the said characters
What about characters that we know were visitors that turned into brawlers but are still used by starr park as mascots . Do starr park put a curtain on everything saying nah dont worry they are our newly created mascot
How does that all work with colt , if there is a colt mascot there is a colt character , if colt is character then how is he sam and belle's son , if belle is not a character made by starr park but rather a time traveler
@@SubZeroTurnip i also believe in that , to be precise cctv looped back to 1995.1.1 after the anniversary and everything happend stayed the same
Though that can answered because the camera was removed from the menu in december 31th but the site was still available for some day
Anyway if brawlers stopped aging and entered a time loop in 1995-1996
And bell/jessie would enter 1950 as a 10 she can have colt in her 20s and colt will be 30 by the time of cctv but then shouldnt belle/jessie also age till that date not the current year and be a 50yo woman
Eh time travel is always head scratching
@@colonbrace2249 So there's a butterfly effect which prevents all the brawlers from being born until many years later. Unless there's something going on with aging in this universe, but Bull's description talks about how he was rowdy in his youth so yup, very confusing
I have a question, are you going to do a vid on the Security Trio or Draco
The security trio isn't complete yet and I don't think there's much left to analyze there. It's a similar case with Draco. The only thing that's really interesting to me about him is his description, which I mention in this video, and then the animated music video, which can mostly be chalked up to a young Draco having an overactive imagination
@@SubZeroTurnip I was just wondering about the last member for the Security, due to some of Larry's Voicelines. The Draco question was mostly filler because I just wanted something new(I've been getting Brainrot from the Mr P/Gene, and contradictory theories on my TT feed)
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Is the S.P.U.D.E an official channel or was is it fanmade? (s.p.u.d.e_resistance)
Fan made, all offical sources have a paper trail leading back to an offical source like Brawl Talk or the game itself. Most imposter channels also have pretty low production quality
Supercell would rather make lore explanation for recycling of brawler lore, mechanics, and design then making new one
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Hold up there's sumthing i dont understant. The CCTV takes place in the 90's right. In one of the CCTV footage, Colt was present and everyone knows belle is his mother and like u said belle is jessie when she was a kid right. Then how the hell is jessie is in the simulation along with Pam ? If Colt is an adult and was adult in the 90's cuz he's not aging, how jessie aged from the 90's to the present. And how Colt is existing in Jessie's era if they are mother and son ?
Either ur theory is completly wrong or my brain is not braining.
No, you bring up some good points. But it's the same case with Leon/Nita, why haven't they aged between 1995 and 2000's? And I think the answer might be that the timeloop instead takes place not long after the CCTV. It makes Belle around 50 years old instead, which is still plausible, but she must've been under some serious stress to go completely white at that age
It's a really weird concept, because Bull absolutely has aged a little bit-- with his description saying he's "not as carefree/rowdy as he was in his youth," so the canon information about how they age is a little fuzzy
I think that the anwser lies in the voice lines
Can someone explain cause i aint seein allat
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Supercell said that Jessie and Colt aren't related but if Jessie is Belle then they are related so either this theory is wrong or colt is not related to belle right?
PAUL said Jessie and Colt "had no relation," and many things he's said have been getting retconned anyways. I mention Colt's "scar" here which probably isn't even a scar anymore (because Sam has it too), but the bottom line is he no longer works for Supercell, and they're now choosing to go in a different direction
That being said-- the statement is technically true. Jessie obviously isn't a mom, which means she wouldn't have any relation to Colt. Only Belle, who was Jessie as a child, would grow up to have a kid. But current Jessie wouldn't even know who Colt is
@@SubZeroTurnipmakes sense
So if the park got destroyed What is the thing Where you go to test a skin it is in front of Starr park
The Starr Park entrance, but it's clearly closed off and boarded up
@@SubZeroTurnip yeah so we can assume that the front of the park got destroyed
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Wait so you're talking me that Jessie literally blamed herself that she stole the trophy (eSports event)
I'm saying they're variants of the same person, but Belle would have grown up in the 1960's, while Jessie is growing up in the 1990's. They're two different timelines. Same reason we see 8-bit come alive in the Investor Video, and then again in 1995. Two variants of the same brawler
So Belle wouldn't have stolen the trophy when she was a child, because e-sports didn't exist back then
Verry Cool Vidio but could you make a summery of the Story plese??
This game's lore is so dumb and I refuse to care about it before more information gets released
This will always just be speculation to me and I'd rather just make up my own ideas
I mean you're free to, that's what headcanons are for and they're just as fun
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why did pam steal the gems from belle?
Same reason Bull and Dynamike wanted the gems in the CCTV, they corrupt brawlers' minds to make them want them
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Why cant i finde cho kyosei on the web browser?
Because it's only spoken in a WKBRL sound clip that no longer exists, its english translation "Super Giant Starr Corporation" gets you more results
Doesn't help that neither the Investor Video nor WKBRL even exist in their original source anymore
@@SubZeroTurnip thx
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