Survival Myths: Plastic Poisoning From Canned Foods On The Camp Fire

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  • Опубликовано: 12 фев 2023
  • - Will Canned Foods Get Poisoned With Burned Plastics When Heated Over A Camp Fire? Well, Let's Find Out!
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  • @mikefandango294
    @mikefandango294 Год назад +75

    The plastic is thermo setting plastic and is sealed above boiling point to kill all bacteria to ensure whatever is inside doesn’t spoil…… so it won’t harm you unless the metal distorts and becomes charred! I worked as an engineer in a canning plant. Larz is exactly right!

    • @Bucky1836
      @Bucky1836 Год назад +1

      Hey bud how long canned food last ....i know the sell by is liability cover, but whats the real date not dented rusted etc

    • @mikefandango294
      @mikefandango294 Год назад +3

      @@Bucky1836 As an example. Army rations from the Vietnam war were opened and eaten some 45 years later as a test, the food had lost a lot of the actual taste but had no harmful bacteria… at all. A can is sealed at high temperatures and if the seal is unbroken, it’s essentially a time capsule.

    • @mikefandango294
      @mikefandango294 Год назад +1

      @Mathey Burg what are you talking about? Thermo setting is a chemical reaction and nothing will happed to the plastic until 300C! the tin can will long have distorted/melted before this!

    • @mikefandango294
      @mikefandango294 Год назад

      @@manomyth11 absolute rubbish, you have no evidence to prove this. You’re not partially right but totally wrong! You breath more toxins walking passed a petrol/diesel car! We had to carry out experiments on the cans and plastic linings every year to prove it did not contaminate the food. Once set the plastic gives off less toxins than the actual food in plastic lined cans!

    • @volusian95
      @volusian95 Год назад +1

      Interesting! Would also help to explain why I've never in my life gotten sick from something out of a can. Sometimes I feel like that confidence causes me to eat too much processed food.

  • @adey88splace
    @adey88splace Год назад +43

    When you haven't eaten in a couple of days and you find these, all that superstition goes out the window.

    • @KAEFARIK
      @KAEFARIK Год назад +3

      @@klstacked Wait so... if you aren't in a "survival situation" the can will "affect" you more or something? ... I think Lars pointed out pretty well that it matters how you treat the can, above all else, especially since there is potentially no easy way to tell what kind of can you are dealing with. That's the point he makes also at the end that MOST canned products you buy from stores are pasteurized to extend shelf life - that means they are often heated to sanitizing temperatures during the process, and canned hot. So potentially there would be a way to carefully heat them, and even if it WERE dangerous, all the harmful crap would already have been cooked off or in the food anyway already....
      It's not - canned food is about as safe as life in this day and age is itself - so all of this is just pointless.
      Like you could be living in an abnormally high area of radiation right now. You could be exposed to all kinds of anomalies that may harm your health, at any time, for any reason. That's a fact too. What are YOU gonna do about it? Buy a Geiger counter or call me superstitious?

    • @adey88splace
      @adey88splace Год назад +1

      @@klstacked Perhaps superstition was the wrong word.

    • @commonconservative7551
      @commonconservative7551 Год назад

      About approx. 1985, a TV program said scientist's experiments were being adversely affected, and they ended up blaming the plastic test tubes for being a female hormone "mimic" DNA

  • @Vlerkies
    @Vlerkies Год назад +8

    Background; Different types of food in cans require different types of coatings on the inside of the can. Example something like green peas or asparagus have a higher natural sulphur content, while tomato type packs have higher acidity.
    The coatings used are will differ accordingly.
    The materials used to manufacture these coatings will all be approved for food use, by the US FDA (Food and Drug Administration) or EFSA (European Food Safety Authority).
    When the cans are filled with the foodstuff they are also sealed and retort processed in autoclaves at around 121'C to kill of any potential bacteria.
    It is perfectly fine to heat tins over a fire or coals.
    The slight discoloration you may see in the coating before and after is probably caused by a phenolic type resin that have a tendency to yellow at high heat.
    Its all fine

    • @AldoSchmedack
      @AldoSchmedack Год назад

      The yellow only changes color? It won't effect taste? I assume it just oxidizes then?

  • @MuskratOutdoors
    @MuskratOutdoors Год назад +17

    Microscopic amounts maybe, but yeah, I'm not worried about it. Remember, you can boil water in a paper cup without the cup burning too. People worry way too much! Good video Lars. That was fun.

    • @extriotic
      @extriotic Год назад

      You are aware that most paper cups are coated in polyethylene?

    • @MuskratOutdoors
      @MuskratOutdoors Год назад +2

      @@extriotic You can use a paper bag too. It's strange the way it works. The outside can't burn until the inside gets hot enough. "Cooking" food inside a can is really just warming it up. It's already been cooked at the factory inside the can to a hotter temp than what you will do. I worked several years in a salmon cannery in Alaska. Raw fish go's into the cans, then the cans go into a big pressure cooked for about an hour.

  • @survledg
    @survledg Год назад +5

    I never even realised that there was plastic inside cans. Learn something new every day. Great video Lars.

  • @jsnsk101
    @jsnsk101 Год назад +29

    I dont think you could tell without sending off for lab analysis to see if the meat contained any different concentrations of chemicals that may have leeched out

    • @oxxnarrdflame8865
      @oxxnarrdflame8865 Год назад +2

      You probably get more poison from vehicles exhaust on your daily commute than from a food can.

    • @patriotpioneer
      @patriotpioneer Год назад

      @@oxxnarrdflame8865 Both are made from Crude Oil...

  • @xxlxpman
    @xxlxpman Год назад +1

    Some people that are commenting are the smartest people they know and will never be convinced...Thank you Lars!!!

  • @brianevans1851
    @brianevans1851 Год назад +8

    Cans today have a plastic of some type coating to help preserve what's inside I know this from working at pmp technologies in Peoria Illinois before I left there was supposed to be a law requirement that it be printed on the label not to cook in cans because of the pcbs

    • @gunfisher4661
      @gunfisher4661 Год назад

      Interesting ,I do remember hearing again not so long ago that that once a can is opened that it should not be used to store the food in the refrigerator.

  • @cannonsanders
    @cannonsanders Год назад +1

    I believe your demonstration says it all Do not overheat. Enjoy your food.

  • @12gauge1oz
    @12gauge1oz 4 месяца назад

    Simple genius of wiring the can. Thanx

  • @krishoogstraat6866
    @krishoogstraat6866 Год назад +10

    I think you make a great point by heating the can over the fire Not in the fire. Well done on showing the the 2 cans for comparison. Great video!

    • @keen9629
      @keen9629 Год назад +1

      It doesn't matter how it is heated. When the can with food in it is heated, the P B A that is in the plastic lining leaches into the food. P B A is an artificial estrogen which could eventually give a man boobies if he did this enough. It is worse for women because extra estrogen can give them cancer.

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 Год назад +3

    Interesting! It would seem that as long as there's liquid in the can to absorb the heat and the can is not heated too fast, the plastic liner should be fine.

  • @georgemcmillan9172
    @georgemcmillan9172 Год назад +3

    Hello Lars! If the lining in canned fiod was in any way toxic to humans, it would not be used in the first place. I would be more concerned about all of the preservatives and sodium in the foods than the can liner...

  • @paulmaxwell8851
    @paulmaxwell8851 Год назад +1

    The polymers used to line cans are a family of plastics. It's not 'one size fits all'. The coating used for a can of beer is not the same as the coating used for a can of tomatoes. Yes, constituents of those polymer coatings do end up in the food product, but as long as you're not eating out of cans regularly I wouldn't worry about it. As a rule, canned food products are inferior to fresh or frozen. Love the channel, Lars!

  • @jimcy1319
    @jimcy1319 Год назад +4

    Aaaaarrr! You can't use a lighter, you have to rub two boyscouts together 😱🔥

  • @wrxs1781
    @wrxs1781 Год назад +2

    Good one Lars, if I am ever in a position to heat up a can on a wood fire, this video will be remembered.

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 Год назад +2

    Thank you , Lars .
    Tis Good to be back in the woods .
    🐺

  • @jmiskinis
    @jmiskinis Год назад +8

    WOW - THANKS!
    - I was not sure if you were going to open the can with your hands again. :)
    - Then you stated that "the best way to open a can is with a can opener", and chuckled a bit.
    - Then you used a can opener implement on a pocket knife.
    - That was priceless!
    Thanks Again, and Greetings from Massachusetts USA, _John_

  • @MrBudbubba
    @MrBudbubba Год назад +3

    Here in America the inside of cans are coated with a type of resin to prevent corrosion. But most canned food is heated to 240 degrees Fahrenheit during production. I doubt heating the can like you did exceeded those temps.

  • @AK-GER
    @AK-GER Год назад +5

    If there is one RUclipsr whom I wish sucess and support and all the good things, then it’s you Lars ! Thank you for making those videos , I learn a lot and I feel less alone on my own adventures knowing some crazy Dane crawling through the snow in Russia on the otherside of the globe -

  • @ownedbycheeseful
    @ownedbycheeseful Год назад +16

    keep up the good work. love your content!

  • @DragonSMP
    @DragonSMP Год назад +2

    Hi Lars, I don't think the issue with heating plastic lined cans, is not that you could consume the plastic. The problem is that the heat causes the plasticiser to leach out of the plastic into your food. Plasticizes can be carcinogenic. For more information look up Di(2-ethylhexyl)phthalate (DEHP)

    • @scottjackson458
      @scottjackson458 Год назад +1

      Also look up Bisphenol-A. BPA mimics estrogen perfectly at the receptor site fooling your body into thinking it's recieving estrogen and so lowering your testosterone levels. It may look fine but I can guarantee it leeches out even if unheated.

    • @DragonSMP
      @DragonSMP Год назад

      @@scottjackson458 This was actually the compound I wanted to mention, but I couldn't remember what it was called. Thanks.

  • @doubled3983
    @doubled3983 Год назад +1

    Hello from Oklahoma! Great Video!👋👋 I've heated things on my fires many times right in the can. Never a problem in my 63 years. This is probably a gimmick to sell more kit. But, who knows. Thanks for everything U do!👍👍 God Bless!

  • @ericpohl1752
    @ericpohl1752 Год назад

    Thanks for the demonstration Lars. I have heated up beans in the can by the fire many times as a kid, and while working on heavy equipment I heated canned stuff on the motor. I'm still alive. I was told many things but I figured that if you don't burn the can your alright. Got to get by.

  • @nomadthetraveler5782
    @nomadthetraveler5782 Год назад

    When I was driving semi cross country, I learned how to cook on the engine while driving. I've even baked dessert on the exhaust manifold that way.
    They even have cook books for cooking on your engines.
    On one run where I had to stop halfway up that long hill in West Virginia. The manifold was getting a little overheated going up that long hill, and I burned one side of my apple strudel.

  • @fritz_ersatz
    @fritz_ersatz Год назад +6

    I’ve heated cans over fire in a similar fashion and never thought about the plastic liner. Thanks for the info. Also, that black splittertarn jacket is awesome.

    • @66bigbuds
      @66bigbuds Год назад

      Plastic liners are relatively new.

  • @taofledermaus
    @taofledermaus Год назад +48

    I guess you have to ask if just the plastic is toxic at all, no matter what temperature it's put under.

    • @slabbedasken9422
      @slabbedasken9422 Год назад

      Everything is toxic, even water, if You gulp down 5 liters, while sweating and dancing, with No intake of electrolytes.,

    • @slabbedasken9422
      @slabbedasken9422 Год назад

      And. Please try som more round balls, pumpkin balls,. Your friend, Stan
      You know, different diameter and so.

    • @slabbedasken9422
      @slabbedasken9422 Год назад +16

      It,s not "Plastic".
      It's epoxy. And it leaves traces of hormone inhibitors in everything that has been exposed, or on connection with the shit. That is my understanding of it.
      I May be wrong. Find out yourselves.
      Best wishes from me

    • @paranoidandroid7718
      @paranoidandroid7718 Год назад +2

      Cool to see you here, just thumbed your latest video.

    • @NewMoahk
      @NewMoahk Год назад +7

      ​@@slabbedasken9422 I think "plastic" and "polymer" get used pretty interchangeably because plastic is a very well known(toxic) polymer. I am skeptical about eating any of these compounds.

  • @DuxLindy
    @DuxLindy Год назад +2

    it definitely leeches into the food. i wouldn't be concerned eating from a heated can a few times a week and heated gently, but everyday over a lifetime would sure make a difference.

  • @AaronHendu
    @AaronHendu Год назад +3

    I often warm the contents of canned food on the fire...I am sure I am getting some kind of by products, but not much...I only ever do it a few times a year to save weight when hiking / cycling...and I never put the can directly in the fire...just near the outer edge, enough to heat but not burn the contents. Most canned food doesnt need to be cooked anyway, so warming is fine. The need to carry cookwear means I will probably continue doing this a few times a year. I smoke cigs and can guarantee one cig is worse than one fire heated can of food.

  • @germanprepper21
    @germanprepper21 Год назад +5

    Good to know. Keep prepping guys 👍

  • @PuskwaskaOutdoors
    @PuskwaskaOutdoors Год назад +31

    I think it’s funny people are so concerned with the can giving them cancer and not it’s contents that have 50 ingredients that most of us can’t pronounce 🤣
    Lars if you get the opportunity please compare the ingredients list on the label of canned pig meat to the ingredients in a can of Spam 👍😁

    • @YOSHIZERO
      @YOSHIZERO Год назад +5

      Ingredients in Spam are pretty simple: Pork with ham, salt, water, modified potato starch, sugar, sodium nitrite. Spam gets bad rep for being mystery meat but the worst it has is high levels of salt and nitrites, which many cured meats have. It's the frozen and refridgerated prepared foods you really need to watch out for. All kinds of added colors and preservatives that you don't need in traditionally canned foods.

    • @PuskwaskaOutdoors
      @PuskwaskaOutdoors Год назад +2

      @@YOSHIZERO
      Yeah I have 4 cans of spam in my cupboard so I’m familiar with what’s in it…
      Being that I’m in Canada and a rather remote part of it our grocery store is not the best but all canned meat I’ve found is heavily processed with nitrates and nitrites added with binders and it’s all in a ground meat format…. There are no options from a can that can even remotely be considered healthy or “simple” unless I make it myself.

    • @MuskratOutdoors
      @MuskratOutdoors Год назад +5

      Well.....for one thing, one's Pig Meat...the other is Spam! Saw a picture of a Spam once....vicious looking animal!!
      HA! I'm joking of course!

    • @PuskwaskaOutdoors
      @PuskwaskaOutdoors Год назад +4

      @@MuskratOutdoors
      I tried using some spam as bait for burbot a few weeks ago…. Pretty bad when a fish they Dub the “Lawyer” due to its eel like appearance, copious amount of slime AND it’s bottom feeding nature won’t touch a cube of spam…. I think nature knows best.

    • @gunfisher4661
      @gunfisher4661 Год назад +1

      @@PuskwaskaOutdoors Works well for catfish here

  • @donaldperson948
    @donaldperson948 3 месяца назад

    Interesting can on the fire about the plastic! Cool test!

  • @stevengegar9709
    @stevengegar9709 Год назад +1

    THANKS FOR THE LESSON KEEP TEACHING US YOUR KNOWLEDGE

  • @zeberdee1972
    @zeberdee1972 Год назад +7

    Very good test . In my job we enter metal containers that are on fire inside for training . It can be 250 centigrade where we are ....on our knees and it can be 400 centigrade and above , above our heads , generally where the smoke is . Of cause we are wearing B/A sets and fire kit so although yes it's hot we are safe . How ever one of the demonstrations to show the cooling properties of water is to put two plastic cups , one full and one half full in front on the floor . At the end and bare in mind the temps , the full cup is fine and the half has melted down to the water level in the cup . I would say same principle works with the cans . Cool video Lars 🙂

  • @seanmcardle
    @seanmcardle Год назад

    I remember a young officer cadet heating a can of beans over a hexi stove inside her hootchie one morning. We all heard the explosion and wandered over to discover a whole mess of steaming beans and a neat hole through her hootchie where the red hot can had launched itself skyward. A hungry and miserable start to her day. !

  • @gregkahle9046
    @gregkahle9046 Год назад +4

    Interesting test, great info!
    Those old axes you have are awesome!

  • @friedeseimitdiroxmox4669
    @friedeseimitdiroxmox4669 Год назад +1

    I carry always a few small cans of fish in oil for emergency with me, open the can and cover the oiled fish with a paper tissue and light it. It will burn long enough for a hot coffee, toasted bread and a pair of dried socks. The warm fish tastes very good. Greetings from Lüneburg,
    North Germany

    • @SurvivalRussia
      @SurvivalRussia  Год назад +1

      I wonder what kind of fish a German guy from Lüneburg would be eating lol

    • @friedeseimitdiroxmox4669
      @friedeseimitdiroxmox4669 Год назад

      @@SurvivalRussia Sardines and Tuna- Fish in Oil. I carry them in case it is not possible to make a proper fire or if I am to lazy collecting fire wood.

  • @volusian95
    @volusian95 Год назад

    For years two of my go-to t-shirts were one with a night splinter camo pattern like Lars' coat, and one in multicam like his chest rig. So this is making me oddly nostalgic lol

  • @wilco3588
    @wilco3588 Год назад +9

    I believe originally they were just tin cans and then they started lining them tin & steel with lacquer and then probably in the last 30 years they've line them with food safe plastic and that helps keep the metallic taste away. It's all about heat transfer one of my favorite teachers in school was a science / physics teacher and we did all kind of practical experiments and we cooked scrambled eggs in a paper bag over a bunsen burner and that was all about heat transfer if you can pull the heat out of the container fast enough won't burn.

  • @thegainsayerstalker
    @thegainsayerstalker Год назад +1

    6:53 It's zinc, yes.

  • @steveaumann6335
    @steveaumann6335 Год назад +8

    Excellent video Lars, have you ever tried putting your food cans in boiling water to heat them up? We used to do it all the time when I was working on the pipelines in the middle of nowhere. Oregon in USA

    • @SurvivalRussia
      @SurvivalRussia  Год назад +6

      We call it "water bath." Common in cooking as well, melting chocolate for glazing and such :)

    • @FeldwebelWolfenstool
      @FeldwebelWolfenstool Год назад +1

      @@SurvivalRussia ..me old man used to put any canned food item into the boiling water pot over the fire. The cans don't explode, you can wander off, let the fire die down and forget about it, but when you get back your food is still hot... Unc used to like the "whole chicken in a can"...

    • @AldoSchmedack
      @AldoSchmedack Год назад

      ​@@FeldwebelWolfenstool Chicken in a can that way has to be good! Wished I could find one nowdays!

  • @pdgingras
    @pdgingras Год назад

    When we were fed c-rations, we mostly ate them cold. Every so often, we got a treat. Yup! Hot c-rations. We would place the unopened cans in an immersion heater. The hot water heated the canned food just fine without contaminating the food, or so we were told.

  • @northwoodsrat6686
    @northwoodsrat6686 Год назад

    Thanks again Lars. Wishing you and your family all the very best! ❤
    Why this channel isn't at 500K subs yet is completely beyond me - surely worthy of AT LEAST that many by now. Please folks, let's all do our part to get him there. He's surely deserved it for a very long time! 👍

  • @tuiflies5869
    @tuiflies5869 Год назад +1

    Just because you can’t see a difference doesn’t mean there isn’t a difference.

  • @slabbedasken9422
    @slabbedasken9422 Год назад +1

    I used to "Boil" blueshells , in Norwegian "Blåskjell" when my pals an myself were hungry as Kids.
    In a tin can, over open fire.
    We did not die.
    But it's not good for anyone.
    Please use the internet for information
    "Epoxy in canned food"
    English: Bisphenol A
    European: Bisfenol A

  • @patriotpioneer
    @patriotpioneer Год назад

    Best Channel on RUclips..!

  • @wtxohnthao2612
    @wtxohnthao2612 8 месяцев назад

    Canned foods have a plastic liner. But Teflon coated pots and pans are also plastic. And it's in most households. Also Spam is cooked in the can. So I'd say it is completely fine.

  • @ensom
    @ensom Год назад +1

    Many canned good still used BPA liners, aka Bisphenol-A .. ( the melting point for BPA is only 155 C , which even when only boiling the contents of a container outside of direct fire, the metal will easily reach such temps ) BPA can leech into foods even without heating, and they mimic natural endogenous hormones in the body, they can mess with estrogen and testosterone levels. BPA when heated would leech into food in much higher amounts, and of course heating it can create unstable and unpredictable changes to the chemical that would likely be even more toxic & carcinogenic. It is possible to get BPA free canned foods now, however none of them are intended to be used as a container to heat the food, esp directly over a fire or grill. Personally I will always use a stainless steel or titanium container when I am cooking outdoors. I use a stainless nalgene bottle for my main water bottle so I know I have a fire safe container that can be used to boil water safely, and in a pinch it could be used to heat food, although it would be a pain to clean.

  • @thomasmusso1147
    @thomasmusso1147 Год назад +4

    👍👍👍
    Interesting.
    For the concerned, perhaps heating the can in a pot of boiling water would be a safer option.

  • @quinnwarman5139
    @quinnwarman5139 Год назад

    As kids we here in New Zealand always cooked our cans of food on fire when at the beach playing all day

  • @joshuadeanb
    @joshuadeanb Год назад +14

    Even “BPA Free” cans will release dangerous compounds…it’ll be in the same of compounds just not the BPA compound exactly. Most of this could be mitigated by allowing the cans to sit for a few weeks to allow the gases to fully escape, but financially this is not possible in the manufacturing process. I managed an industrial bottling plant until 2013.

    • @didymussumydid9726
      @didymussumydid9726 Год назад

      They release this when heated or all the time under storage conditions?

    • @RagingDong
      @RagingDong Год назад +3

      @@didymussumydid9726 The food is full of microplastics prior to canning, and then again prior to heating.

    • @joshuadeanb
      @joshuadeanb Год назад +2

      @@didymussumydid9726 they will leach out on their own, but heat and UV light can accelerate it.

    • @MudHut67
      @MudHut67 Год назад

      We're all fucked from all this toxic shit we put in everything and everywhere 😂

    • @didymussumydid9726
      @didymussumydid9726 Год назад

      @@joshuadeanb Can you say if the canning lids (white center, red ring) used on glass Mason jars would release these or similar chemicals?

  • @truthreporter1709
    @truthreporter1709 Год назад

    Another great video Lars. Thank you for your output.

  • @hamhock6932
    @hamhock6932 Год назад

    Lars! Garlic, chaga, fat back, and everything is awesome. Love ya buddy. Deputy dawg attack battalion.

  • @hungryhank6044
    @hungryhank6044 Год назад

    Great video, Lars! Very useful information. Take care.

  • @recondrone6826
    @recondrone6826 Год назад

    Since most canned good have a good deal of water content and you bring that to a slow boil the temp of the can probably never gets much above the boiling point of water ..so basically your around 212 degrees F or 100 degrees C..now if you boil all the water content out then the can will get super hot and you'll a have extra crispy meal with melted plastic..the key is to cook it slow and steady until it's nice and hot on a cold day in the field.

  • @woodsmanforlife1677
    @woodsmanforlife1677 Год назад

    8:35; nice old axe heads!

  • @robertrosicki9290
    @robertrosicki9290 Год назад +1

    This video made me think back to many years ago when I was a young boy . I did not know you should not heat a can of baked beans close to the fire when it is sealed with no vent holes . Luckily I wasn't close to it when it exploded and became a flying hot bean anti personal device . A lesson was learned that day .

    • @SurvivalRussia
      @SurvivalRussia  Год назад +2

      I have a moron here in the comments claiming he heats his cans this way....

    • @robertrosicki9290
      @robertrosicki9290 Год назад

      @@SurvivalRussia I was ice fishing when the can exploded . super hot pork and beans shot at least five meters .

  • @tjenahoj
    @tjenahoj Год назад

    Lovely axe handle, it is holding up well too! :)

  • @Punisher9419
    @Punisher9419 Год назад +3

    The meat is already cooked inside the can with the plastic already in there. Cooking it again won't do anything more then what has already happened. Or do people not know how canned food is made?

    • @SurvivalRussia
      @SurvivalRussia  Год назад +3

      They don't. I can in glass jars.

    • @timbanwell1756
      @timbanwell1756 Год назад

      Good point, I am pretty sure the contents are sealed in hot. Sterile without air, hence last a long time
      So some BPAs will have leaked into the food. The big (unanswered) question is are BPAs really harmful at low doses!

  • @edmcpeake9285
    @edmcpeake9285 Год назад +1

    hi lars ...hmm interesting demostration hmmm keep up the great videos

  • @Gunge-vq2ik
    @Gunge-vq2ik Год назад

    THANKS FOR ANOTHER GREAT ONE LARS!!!

  • @lenlemaic7849
    @lenlemaic7849 Год назад

    Many many years ago my Physical Education lecturer told our class that the only food that he eats out of a can is vacuum sealed walnuts.

  • @VIPER410
    @VIPER410 Год назад

    Very cool and interesting. Thanks Lars

  • @KILLKING110
    @KILLKING110 Год назад +1

    The heat definitely increased the leeching should be safe as long as you don't eat from a heated can every day

  • @tonybrabender5907
    @tonybrabender5907 Год назад

    Love the video thank you for sharing!!

  • @mr.shannon6137
    @mr.shannon6137 Год назад

    Under normal atmospheric pressure, water cant exced 100 degrees c, or 212 F. That's the whole point of double boilers. Most common plastics melt around 450 degrees ferinhight. That's why you can boil water in a plastic water bottle hanging over a fire, without the bottle melting.

  • @josephlwallssr6166
    @josephlwallssr6166 Год назад

    Thanks, Lars! Great lesson, for today!All of those years up in the Sierria, s ,eating beans & bangers out of can , heated over a camp fire, washing it down with a Bud Wiser, was not a bad thing , after all! It, s all good! There you go!😀👌
    Eventually, we are all going to meet, Paul at the pearly gates!So....?🤔 Eat on!Life is too short!

  • @bossybill7437
    @bossybill7437 Год назад +5

    Here's what ChatGPT had to say...
    Q: Are most plastic liners in cans 'camp fire safe'?
    A: It's difficult to make a general statement about the safety of plastic can liners, as different types of plastic can have varying levels of heat resistance and safety. However, many cans with plastic liners are designed to be heated, including those used for canned soups, stews, and vegetables. The plastic liners in these cans are typically made from materials that are safe for food contact and have been tested to ensure that they are heat resistant and do not leach harmful chemicals into the food during heating. However, it is always best to check the label or manufacturer's information to determine if the plastic liner is suitable for use over a campfire or high heat source.
    So I would tend to agree with Lars... be sensible about it.
    But by the same token, I would not make a daily habit of it.

  • @johnlongstaff4202
    @johnlongstaff4202 Год назад +1

    Thanks for that great video, and all that good stuff and what not blah blah blah. ☺

  • @MDR-hn2yz
    @MDR-hn2yz Год назад

    My grandfather lived to be 92, and smoked like a chimney. He used to say “everyone is going to die from cancer, unless something else gets them first.”

  • @LionstrikeUSA
    @LionstrikeUSA Год назад

    Hi Lars, first of all, I just found your channel and admire your real world perspective. I carry the same helicon tex chest pack. I live and work in the desert south-west ( Arizona USA). I expect we are similar in age. I had the opportunity to travel to Moscow in the 80’s while in the USAF. I wish I had the opportunity to experience the Russian culture you talk about. I am sure my experience was well scripted. Likewise, if ever you have the opportunity to visit the US I hope you are able to experience the American culture absent the political influences. I appreciate your cultural perspective and I would hope you be be fortunate enough to experience the same. -all the best

  • @666tokarev
    @666tokarev Год назад

    Great video Lars!

  • @LouisPhilip9
    @LouisPhilip9 Год назад +1

    You make it look so easy !

  • @Olga-obzor
    @Olga-obzor Год назад

    Wow 🤩 👍🏻 great video 😊❤

  • @HR-qc8tn
    @HR-qc8tn Год назад

    The cans used to be welded with lead, bit that stopped some time ago.

  • @MichaelR58
    @MichaelR58 Год назад +1

    Good video Lars , have a great week , thanks for sharing , God bless brother !

  • @FeldwebelWolfenstool
    @FeldwebelWolfenstool Год назад

    ...way back, before plastic, I believe that they used conifer tree oleo resins to line the inside of the tin cans....

  • @ridecaptain1
    @ridecaptain1 Год назад

    A point not made is the paper labels not burning. Water and the vessel containing it will not exceed 100c or 212f you can boil water in a paper cup hanging from a shoestring.

  • @bdwillis8284
    @bdwillis8284 Год назад +1

    Cook canned food on fires all my life no problems except the snak pak can of peaches that I forgot. It exploded like a grenade, even put the fire out. That was 50 years ago.

    • @AaronHendu
      @AaronHendu Год назад

      Me and a friend were camping illegally...had a fire, some angry person walks up to yell at us...as they are yelling, a can of ravioli burst and got all over her. Woops lol

    • @bdwillis8284
      @bdwillis8284 Год назад

      You set the delay fuze on the ravioli perfectly didn't you! Lol

  • @adriancox-thesantjordigolf3646

    Very nice video Lars I liked it a lot.

  • @flyovercounty1427
    @flyovercounty1427 Год назад

    I miss metal lard pails... hi from 🇨🇦

  • @oxxnarrdflame8865
    @oxxnarrdflame8865 Год назад +1

    How about a video on the assorted ax heads on your work bench? 😊

  • @aaronwilcox6417
    @aaronwilcox6417 Год назад

    My day bag has a mess kit and water bottle and german surplus INOX eating utensils. It's just too simple to carry a small kit along and be ready anywhere.

  • @Breakfast_of_Champions
    @Breakfast_of_Champions Год назад +26

    That's not "plastic" at all, the lining does contain chemicals that work as hormones in the human body. Heating the can does set free much more than normal, if you do this often you are going to get an effective dose. Putting the can directly into fire or on the stove produces even higher temperatures where nobody can tell you what kind of reactions are happening between the metal, the lining and the food.

    • @jay90374
      @jay90374 Год назад +11

      No, the can will only get as hot as the liquid inside it!

    • @SurvivalRussia
      @SurvivalRussia  Год назад +9

      Correct.

    • @slabbedasken9422
      @slabbedasken9422 Год назад

      It doesen't have to be heatet at all to contaminate the Foods. Please look it up. The only canning Company I know of is the former Norwegian sardine canning Company, "King Oscar" now owned by a Thai business consortium, they make sure nor to feed people Bisphenol A.
      Lars, my friend. Look it up.
      Obviously, like " Gammel Dansk, and exessive amounts of beer did not kill me at once, something is coming, .........

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 Год назад +7

      @@SurvivalRussia And this is the principal behind that most Canadian of 'camping tricks', boiling water in a paper sack.

    • @timwilligar2525
      @timwilligar2525 Год назад

      OR! Pre "burn" the can like you do with a new stove, to get all the delicious yuckyness out. 🤷‍♂️

  • @hotsaucehead
    @hotsaucehead Год назад

    I like to put the unopened can next to the fire or put it in a box and burn it. The can will pop out like it's spoiled, perfect temperature.

  • @donaldperson948
    @donaldperson948 3 месяца назад

    Food cans in the USA are lined with plastic! Same with soda cans!

  • @CarlJones14
    @CarlJones14 Год назад

    I don't know the science in detail, but my guess that heating must cause some leaching from the plastic. I knew a packaging engineer a long time ago. Must be 30 years ago. He specialised in plastic bottles, such as a well known top brand ketchup bottle. He said this thin plastic was very complicated, and constructed from many layers, like a space suite, each layer had a function. He implied that the packaging wasnt safe. So if these bottles leach with no heat, then they must leach with heat. Having said that, my guess is that the meat is cooked in the tin, hence the gap around the meat when you open it. Very interesting topic. 👍

  • @Kangsteri
    @Kangsteri Год назад

    It's about the liquid. It's possible to boil water in paper cup. But i wouldn't fry dry meat etc in the can.

  • @mfree80286
    @mfree80286 Год назад

    If cooking on a fire put plastic in the food, then it's already in the food anyways. Why do I say that? Because those cans were commercially retort processed. They were filled, sealed, and then held at probably well over 120C under high pressure for quite some time to sterilize the contents. The pressure only exists to keep pressure down (i.e. keeping steam from blowing the cans apart), the plastics don't care about that and are directly affected by temperature only. Therefore, what plastics are chosen to line cans should be stable to 120C and well above.

  • @bobbieschke599
    @bobbieschke599 Год назад

    I've never seen linings like that. In the US our cans appear to be galvanized on the inside.

  • @rauliuonac7542
    @rauliuonac7542 Год назад

    very good my friend👍

  • @R.-.
    @R.-. Год назад

    Most plastic food packaging is not designed for heating, but cans are heated as part of the canning process so they must be safe.

  • @RyanMclain
    @RyanMclain Год назад

    :) Thanks, Lars.

  • @ryanjohnson5406
    @ryanjohnson5406 Год назад

    I still prefer my Soviet mess kit :)
    Good to see you alive Lars

  • @Ac3p3rgAA
    @Ac3p3rgAA Год назад

    as kids we used to just throw cans of food directly in the fire. one half burned other half still cold lol. iam still here but i wouldnt put it into the fire nowadays..

  • @RatsAndFunTV
    @RatsAndFunTV Год назад +1

    What is going in your food is not visible by eyes. This is the coponents of the plastic who is going inside.

  • @fredkillingsworth657
    @fredkillingsworth657 Год назад

    Good video. I carry that knife everyday.

  • @user-ft1xf8wk9m
    @user-ft1xf8wk9m Год назад

    thanks

  • @melvinroehm821
    @melvinroehm821 Год назад

    There are plastic container,s designed to take hot foods.but most plastics once they reach 86 degrees and warmer they do begin to release toxic chemicals that should not be eaten or drank.long term ingestion causes cancers n other health issues

  • @kdenyer1
    @kdenyer1 Год назад

    Cool experiment. But you hung your can over fire keeping it away from the flames 🔥. Am betting that most people will put can directly into the fire to cook food. If they do I think it may burn coating from inside of can. Next time you try would be worthwhile trying it that way.