They want to build a metro to the airport but it would be better with an actual electric train on electrified infrastructure. They are too short sighted.
@@flytrapYTP No but only metro trains can really run on it (providing it uses third rail). And they've been planning it since the 90s, it really goes to show what state Ireland's transport infrastructure and planning is in.
There was a report done recently where when it comes to expendable income, Ireland ranks at the same level as Poland and Romania. We are not a rich country. It's a facade.
actual lies ireland is above the eu average and 10-15% off the top of the list of Luxemburg and co and thats if you fix for pps and merely 35% higher than poland (113% more if you just go euro to euro) and 50% more than romania (144% euro to euro)....nice facts tho
@@dark1810 It included the cost of living - what the people of Ireland ultimately are left with is the same as these countries. I can't locate the article sadly, it was several months ago.
After spending 10 years living in Germany and recently returning to Ireland, it is difficult not to be camparing, but I do. Germany tax system and amazing value for money, in relation to childcare costs, education, services and infrastructure compared to the opposite situation here. As a consequence to that, no one is actually LIVING in ireland. Everyone is just surviving, and with added pressures of imagination taking up services, and housing, it is only going to get worse. I'm already planning moving again, because this country, apart from horrible weather and poor value for money, and the nanny state that it is, I want to live. Brilliant video and so well explained 👏 👍
I agree Ireland is a kip, but TBF Germany has a Critical Mass population wise to be able to make those big improvements. Ireland's population is pretty low by comparison
It's jobs for the boys. All of these roles are way higher than the average wage because it's selective uplifting. It won't ever change because that's how little islands work unfortunately especially one as estranged from the average person.
My supervisor is one, fake-works almost all day, every day. You lads do that pile of work over there, and I'll ... I'll tick this box, and brown-nose the boss.
Not Irish, never been to Ireland, but I see these same issues extending to many other countries too. Here’s my token of support, I hope this video reaches as many as possible!
yup, I've noticed from the intro there's a lot of similarities withmy home country. We have a VAT of 25% though and not one of those big IT companies.. Wages abt 3-4 times less than Ireland and a pitiful job market. So ye, it could be worse for you 😁
Really nice to see a channel like this, the UK and US have plenty of channels that outline issues like this, it really helps to put abstract, nuanced problems that really drive the biggest issues in this country into easy to digest forms for the average person.
@@ULHISIt's made up its mind before and looked for examples to try and prove a point. Why not mention a government body like the IDA? The are an unbelievable success and have helped build the country. There is so much of this video to pick holes in it would that an age to go through.
@@debbiegilmour6171 because the public transport is absolutely shit in this country. Ranked as the worst in EU. Buses never on time. Limited routes. To get to point B from A, you have to go to point C first
I work in the energy industry, and generally the biggest issue is navigating the governmental bodies... Eirgrid, CRU, SEAI, EPA, DECC, ESB.. List goes on, and they all have a reasonably similar function
This was such a well-prepared and well-researched video, and I liked the part where you didn't just complain about the problem, but also provided actionable recommendations! I can also see how these insights easily being applied to many other countries. Nice job! +1 subscriber.
Always felt we had a bloated and inefficient public sector. The problem is they are so bloated they represent a huge proportion of voters and hence the Goverment bending over for them. I get nothing for the 14% VAT in the hospitality sector and my previous work in construction before that wasn’t viable at all with inflation and interest rates. It’s like you get punished here for entrepreneurship, you work so hard and have to figure out your own pension while incapable people you know rise through the public sector and couldn’t have it handier.
I don’t think we do have a particularly bloated public sector; public spending in Ireland is, correcting for GNI* rather than GNI as a basis, the third lowest as a proportion of the economy in the OECD (it’s the lowest if we don’t correct). It does seem fairly inefficient- but I think a lot of the cause of that is that we invest very little relative to our spending on current costs.
@@cianbrennan4477It's bloated. State is spending100 billion this year. 30000 NGOs costing 6 billion. HSE now spending 24 billion with horrendous waiting lists and criminal waste.
You don't say WHY you feel Ireland has a bloated and inefficient public sector. Why do you feel that? I ask this in the context of Ireland not having enough nurses, the smallest defence force in decades and not enough guards or teachers. Are you sure your not just jealous that you don't work in the public sector?
@@taintabird23 no man, i have a good life. The bueraracy in every sector, mates telling me how little they do, and as illiustrated in the video multiple agency's doing the same job. So yes, bloated. That said, I'd like the money saved from trimming some of the fat put into getting moe, guards, nurses, SNAs, teacher and fill the woeful gaps in child services.
Irelands problem is not the public sector. Irelands needs a larger public sector. Irelands real issue is too much regulations that result in centralised government, high taxes, poor local planning and a constantly overheated economy. In other words Ireland has always been very expensive for the Irish.
HSE employ agency staff at exorbitant costs. Those agency staff sometimes also work for the HSE. Double jobbing. there’s staff shortages because the Agencies take the staff and syphon our taxes. Poor work and No oversight on the work and more profitable to remain in crisis after crisis. It’s sick. Incompetent treacherous failure. All for managerial snobs to have nice houses and drive their range rovers around a declining city.
They just slashed my university budget for next year. The building has a colapsing leaking roof. The university is the Technological university but cant even get the engineering building from falling in on itself. This is a help call from a student.
If you did a video on the UK, you'd see exactly the same situation. There are no end of pointless NGOs and other bodies. In the area I live, we have an "Arts" organisation who's focus is painting murals and sticking up statues for no apparent reason.... meanwhile we have people sleeping in the doorway of the local Police station.... The fact they can find hundreds of thousands of Pounds for random pieces of Art but can't house the rough sleepers is typical of the problem both our countries face.
Noooo! Let them stew in the mess they've made. There's plenty of commentary about that but very little quality analysis of Ireland as a distinct separate entity. We've diverged a lot from the UK already and the differences will only get bigger. It's a different country now, not our problem. Obviously, comparisons and lessons learned are useful, and the north is a complicating factor. But comparisons with other satraps of Silicon Valley, or Scandinavia, might be more useful.
Probably need to make the comparison with other large European countries. Was going to say everyone else was just as bad, but clearly Ireland spends more on pointless bureaucracy than Scandinavian countries, as you demonstrate.
@@chrisgraythereal Ireland is not unique. If you go to most wealthy nations you'd see exactly the same thing with people complaining about housing prices, Health and inflation.
I work in health care here. We have a 24/7/365 service which is extremely disruptive to our lives and we are permanently under staffed, working hard every single day. We can take or leave our jobs. There are loads to move on to. From what I hear working beyond o to 5 is OPTIONAL in the private sector! We have nothing left to give. So I pity the government there on that one. How can they work us harder? They can only cut pay...but roles are already empty with no interest in them so that might not be such a good idea.
I couldn't agree with you more. But there is a reason why these departments are run in this way. Getting a job in a semi-state or state agency is literally the only way you can get a secure job with good working conditions in Ireland. So you have agencies full of people who are dedicated to protecting and enhancing a very rare commodity; pensions, flexible hours, voluntary overtime, the right to join a union and a less oppressive management environment. I would suggest that we're looking at this wrong. If we want to engender a better and more dynamic public sector we could start with having a standard pension system across all work places so as people can move in and out of the public sector more easily without the fear of losing this benefit. We could make union membership a right in all work places and we could provide more funding to the private sector to train better management; less obsessed with the short term bottom line, more interested in building a sustainable dynamic workplace. My point is that it's not a simple as closing down a load of agencies. This won't stop other agencies and their budgets ballooning afterwards to fill in the gaps. There needs to be more convergence between the public and private sector job markets. To do this we need a change of work culture.
You're talking like government workers are the ones who create the job slots for themselves. Yes, people would rather work in government because the job is less demanding and benefits higher, but that's only because someone else posted the job opening. Fewer public-sector job openings and trimming up the fat is a top-down, not a worker's-choice decision. And that decision is independent from whether the private sector should be mandated to give more benefits or something. If you want to force private-sector workers to unionize, just do it. It would be bad and a drag on the economy, but go ahead and do it and don't use it as an excuse to keep the state bloated and needlessly impoverishing the taxpayer.
If Ireland was Federated along the lines of the 4 provinces and Dublin, we could make our country much more efficient. The Canadian constitution is already a model for this. For example, instead of having a position of ‘Lieutenant Governor General’ you could call the position a ‘Prefect’ like regional governors in France. Federating Ireland along County lines likely wouldn’t work for anyone except Dublin because the population of most are much smaller than Swiss Cantons. The counties should be given more power though, and Ireland’s local boroughs and Mayors that were abolished in 2014 should be restored as many local areas have had no regional autonomy since and are merely run by faceless civil servants.
Yes there is incompetence in the Irish government and quangos, however i question the solution put forward in this video, which to a large degree is simply privatisation. This is making the assumption first off that the private sector is competent which is doubtfully, but more worryingly there is a naïve belief that the free market would leads to optimal resource use. It needs to be made clear that the sole motive of the private sector is shareholder profit, and that does not translate to an equal distribution of wealth. Last part about investments in trains and medical equipment rather than motorways is brilliant !
“Equal distribution of wealth” and “optimal resource use” are very different goals. Free market is great at the latter, it just may not be what we want.
equal distribution of wealth as in communism ? do people produce equally so that they deserve equal income ? this way you will fast track everyone being equally unproductive. Why would people work harder if all wealth is distributed equally? smh, go north korea plz, heard it's wonderfully equal there
@@oanacalinandrei4111 Communism was never about an equal distribution of wealth just that no one owns private property or means of production which is why it failed, but those are the top were still living in relative luxury compared to those at the bottom.
As a taxpayer wouldn't you want your money to go further? I live in continental Europe and despite my adopted country being considered a 'social democracy' we have virtually none of these pointless quangos. The ones that do exist also have a commercial remit so they have to break even in some way to justify their existence. Because of this, while I pay Irish tax rates, I also get free education to masters level for my kids, very affordable childcare, universal healthcare, affordable housing and transport. The system is entirely unionized but constantly reforming as unions see it as their duty to improve their professions rather than simply protect outdated work practices. This is the way things should work in Ireland but we've decided that any public sector reform is always a cutback or some slippery slope to private sector interests running everything. It means nothing ever changes.
We didn't need a quarter of this when the little nuns were running the hospitals. They ran VERY tight ships and you would be in and out in an hour, having been seen and competently treated.
These videos are incredibly important. These are high quality well researched videos that shine a lot where people generally don’t have the time or understand to do themselves. You should be proud of yourselves, these videos bit by bit make our population demand better
I agree in large part with the video. The problem is though, that no-one is calling for any of these changes. Nobody will ever protest in favour of shutting/merging these entities, and nobody will run for election on the platform of reducing spending. The only way reforms like these will ever pass is when shit hits the fan once again and the government is forced to examine it's books and see what they can afford to cut, along with other austerity measures which defeats the purpose of rediverting the funds to improve the quality of Irish citizens in the first place. Then when tax revenue increases, these departments grow again and we're right back to square one. Still, love the video though. Keep them coming
Independent Ireland Party are currently running on this platform. Look at their website a lot is about how much tax money is wasted on pointless stuff instead of putting it in peoples pockets!
@@johngrimes93 Yeah but I also don't want to vote for a vaccine skeptic, anti-immigrant, anti-abortion right wing party. It's not worth compromising so many of my own personal values for the sake of a set of very specific reforms.
It seems to be particularly bad this cycle because the crash put a complete stop to the govt’s capital spending. Then when the money came back there was more of it available to spend directly on jobs. If we had been using the money for housing or rail lines it would have imposed more discipline.
This is true. Back during the boom I remember Michael Noonan as Fine Gael leader ran on a platform of tying 'benchmarking' to public sector reform, cutting quangos and voluntary redundancies. It was about as popular as a fart in a lift. Instead Fianna Fail trounced Fine Gael in the next election and continued expanding the public sector until we were bankrupt. The reality is that the Irish people have no idea what their taxes can actually get them in terms of good public services. Most have never lived in continental Europe much less experienced the balance these places have between progressive taxes and functioning, efficient universal public services. They only understand that it's an either/or situation where you're shoveling cash into public services or cutting it to the bone. Reform has no place unless you're looking for trouble.
@@polysee Not a criticism loved the video, however, the Wild Atlantic Way does after all begin in County Donegal and we have no rail links to Northern Ireland or the rest of the Republic and no motorways either. A rail link from Donegal to Tuam would be a godsend along with access to northern Irelands rail network to Belfast.
@@polysee You might want to look and passenger numbers in the Limerick to Athenry section which are abysmal consisting mainly of day trippers and pensioners. If they simply reinstate the line and don't look at population densities at the stops it will be a complete waste of money. It will then have to stay operational because closing down or reforming a white elephant in Ireland is nigh on impossible.
I’m not sure we have big government tbh; multiplying our figure for general government spending as a proportion of GNI (from the OECD, 24.4%) by the GNI to GNI* ratio (1.4x to correct for multinationals distorting our economic statistics) you get ~34.16% of the economy being government. This seems like a lot, but puts us 3rd from last in the OECD.
This video is propaganda from undeclared lobbyists . Organisations like the IDA, bird bia, failte Ireland are world famous success stories that other countries have fought hard to copy
This video is so spot on! 👍 I am so tired of so called "professionals" who are just free loading or cause active harm. Real professionals and productive classes are so squeezed and overworked. Think doctors, nurses, builders, private sector employees. All whilst unproductive class is ballooning!
If RTÉ made quality digital content like Al Jazeera and actually did a good job bringing our country's perspective to an international audience then I wouldn't mind them receiving tax funding. Better Irish language content is something they should make aswell.
Nílim cinnte fén gcáineadh ar Bord Bia, ní hamháin go mbronnann siad lipéidí ar bhia nó go mbíonn siad ag taispeáint do dhaoine conas uaineoil a chócaireáil. Má tá lipéad Bord Bia ar tháirge bia, ciallaíonn sé sin, ní hamháin gur as Éirinn don táirge ach go bhfuil caighdeán éigin i gceist. Bíonn cigirí de chuid Bord Bia ag tabhairt cuairte ar fheirmeoirí an t-am ar fad ag féachaint an bhfuil an fheirm á rith go sábháilte (do na hainmhithe, na feirmeoirí agus na tomhaltóirí go léir - mar shampla ag scagadh admhálacha leighis, leasú talún srl.). Táim cinnte gur féidir cuid mhór den airgead a théann chucu a ghearradh siar, ach tá i bhfad níos mó i gceist leo ná eagraíocht fógraíochta. An-suimiúil mar sin féin, táim ag tnúth go mór leis an gcéad cheann eile.
ní feirmeoir mé ach maidir le na cigirí, nach bhfuil cigire ón Roinn Talmhaíochta cuairt ar na feirmeacha ar fud na tíre freisin. chomh maith le Bord Bia agus bhféidir cigirí eile ón na HSA? táim ag tacaíocht feirmeoireacht sábháilte agus gach le sin. ach cén fáth nach bhfuilimid in ann an t-aon eagraíocht a bheith acu chun iniúchtaí feirme a bainistiú Aontaím freisin gurb é airgead margaíochta an chuid is lú dár n-imní ach bhféidir gur áit níos éasca chun tosnú leis?
@@superiorniall Ní raibh ceann ón HSE againn riamh, measaim go bhfuil an ceart agat fén Roinn Talmhaíochta, ach formhór acu is ó Bhord Bia a thagann siad pé scéal é. Ach tá sé dochreidte go bhfuil buiséad na tíre méadaithe faoi dhó laistigh de cúpla bliain.
All bord bia inspections should be done by the dept. of ag - get rid of the others - including coucil and hsa inspections. Far too much duplication. The med. records are done for the dept. of ag anyway
Ta mise i mo chonai thar lear so ta aithne agam ar cupla daoine ata ag obair le Bord Bia agus d'fhreastal me ar event no dho a bhi eagraithe acu. O mo thaobh fein, bionn cuma air ar an sceal go ndeanann sian an-obair anseo (thar lear). Ar an gcead dul sios, nil a dhothain airgead ag an cuid is mo de na brands as Eirinnn le haghaidh marketing a dheanadh thar lar, agus nil na achmhainne acu le haghaidh caidreamh le suppliers agus distibutors a thogail. As an meid a chual me, cabhrionn Bord Bia leis na brands beaga sna habhair seo. Chomh maith le sin, is saghas springboard e Bord Bia do dhaoine a bhfuil talent acu. Dar no, bionn mi-usaid ann ach ar iomlan ta me ceaptha gur ceann de na quangos mhaithe iad. Faraor, nil ach anecdotes agam so ta me ag tnuth go mor leis na sraitheanna fise ata ag teacht. p.s. ce chomh alainn e le bheith ag caint as Gaeilge ar an abhair seo?
It's so refreshing to see a video pointing out the issues we have here without being sensational or doing the Facebook approach of just shouting about it with nonsensical solutions. Top stuff, shared, subscribed, etc.
There is ample bureaucracy in private sector too, in particular the multinational corporations and they're most efficient at keeping down the wages and conditions of their employees. Those at the very top take eye-watering sums of money in salaries, benefits, dividends etc and can hire expensive accountants to help them avoid paying tax and offshore massive amounts of money.
Will certainly watch the video about the Irish health system, it's ridiculous how it's run and funded. If instead of having multiple bodies inside it like trusts as St James hospital and CHI there was only one central body, management costs could be massively lowered and procurement could be done nationally which would increase the leverage on negotiating with suppliers greatly reducing the price per unit.
Thank you for this illuminating piece of work. 75% of the Irish people know something is wrong in Ireland, and it manifests itself in a number of ways: housing, homelessness, mismanagement of immigration, HSE inefficiencies, to name but a few. There are 30000 employed in the NGO sector alone.The core issue is too many people seeking secure relatively well paid jobs with relative status, and why wouldn't they as a return on their.efforts in third level education. Except, third level education is not necessarily the edifying thing that people might assume it is. Look at the current protests on US campuses, for instance.We need to repurpose some of these Quangos towards better awareness of big government, towards more trades and technical apprenticeships, and more export driven startups.
What are you talking about???? Public Sector workers are not NGO sector workers eg Teachers, Gardai, the Administrators that deal with your Dole payment. Also the MNE sector in also employs over 300 thousand people and that is thanks to the IDA (one of these NGO you are on about), which in both 2022 and 2023 got over 240 multi-million dollar investments into Ireland, which increase jobs in this sector. The US Census Bureau reported that Ireland was the second largest European Exporter in the the US market in 2023 and for the first quarter of this year. Housing shortage is a labour shortage in the construction industry and the NIMBY Planning Permission laws in Ireland as well as the increased demand due to the much faster than expected Irish Economic Recovery (Ireland's economy recovered faster than any other European Country and years ahead of the UK, which got the Lion's Share of the Bailout money as it went to Uk investors). Refugees are being shipped to Ireland via the North by the Uk Government to undermine the North's economy as it is the only part of the uk doing well after brexit.
Would you guys please stand for election? Because I'm damned if I'm going to vote for any of the four most useless political parties in the western hemisphere. There is not an ounce of vision in the Dáil.
Ha well we often discuss politics, and ironically an upcoming episode of ours is on the barriers to entry to politics. The opportunity cost is so high, good people with options simply don’t want to put up with the abuse, stress, social media etc. It is a worrying trend across the West
Hereditary positions are a key part; long-ingrained expectations of friends and family on those in government-funded positions to take their place/alongside simply expands the issue.
Minor point here, but Bord Bia do provide some great marketing and market research services to irish food brands. So the certifications arent their only purposes Edit: also hell yes on that rail from Sligo to Galway. I basically never go to Galway because the road is not great, and it's just not worth it. If it was only an hour and a half on the train though I'd be down there a lot more often
@@polysee completely agree! I'm almost 27 and the thought of having a home and living a life similar to my parents seems absolutely laughable. You're doing great work with these vids and I hope they blow up!
As a farmer I despise bord bia and it's quality assurance. The bottom line is money - it has not resulted in a price rise in ag products ( we were told it would) - and the purchaser buys overwhelmingly on price too, nevermind little overlooked badges. If it benefits anyone it's the processors. The quality, price or taste of the product does not change regardless. Processors would not be long in letting you know if there is a problem.
@@cormacbrowne9571100% correct, Bord Bia gets nearly 100 million. It treats farmers terribly with a horrendous audit and does the dirty work for the dept of ag. It's a few cents for heifers and bullocks ,nothing for cows buls. Fat salaries and pensions for this monster. All benefit to the retailers.
I fail to see how removing Failte Ireland or deregulating our food standard agency would in increase standard of living. I'm not saying these organizations are pinnacles of efficient government, but it's putting makeup on a pig. Housing & healthcare are fundamental human rights, and are rotten to the core in Ireland. Both of these issues require huge amounts of work from a government, the latter requiring full restructuring of the HSE. It needs somebody with an actual neck and a plan. Fixing housing would mean lowering the value of the Dail Eireann's retirement plans, so thats also out. There is no incentive for them to actually make any progress. Once the actual cost centers are dealt with, we can move on to looking at restructuring the small fry. Would you get plastic surgery while you had a deadly infection in your leg?
Average salary in Ireland is higher than Germany or Sweden. If you just look around Sweden or Germany, can we really see any justification for this? Are Irish workers really more productive? I think there's a economic bubble going on here, and when it pops the ramifications will go way beyond Ireland.
Irish income taxes are very high. When countries have really high income taxes that apply to even the working classes, it causes what looks like wage inflation, but with no tangible economic benefit.
Yeah what's the point of having a higher avrage salery in ireland when it's impossible to get jobs and besides tech gients in Dublin pay workers peanuts I mean that's why they are here cheap labour because they know the poor desprite irish people will do it for minimum wage.
This video helps to clarify many fears that Americans have about expanding the government’s oversight of things like medical services. The U.S. is a very high tax country despite the seemingly low tax rates-we pay in many other non-financial ways not calculated by economists.
No one ever wants to leave a high paying handy job with a glod plated pension, every government around the world employs academically cautious people that want a stress free life, but lots of money to buy stuff they dont need. They are always going to look after themselves first and pull the ladder up behind them for the next person. They whole system needs changing and the incentives and inequality it creates.
As a foreigner living in Ireland, I can see that people mostly blame it to housing crisis but don't see the big picture. Unfortunately, it feels the Irish have some sort of fear to challenge the status quo. Why is there such a big housing crisis and nobody is protesting in the streets? Anyway, I truly appreciate how I've been treated here. I hope you get a president look we did (Milei) to start cutting these kind of stuff.
As a farmer, the bord bia mark is incredibly important, but for a reason that it shouldnt really have to be... When you see the bord bia quality assurance mark, you know 100% that the food was grown/raised/produced and processed in ireland. Unfortunately, too many brands and supermarket own labels try to mislead us (and are infuriatingly allowed get away with) on provenance by conflating "produced in Ireland" vs "produce of Ireland" green packaging, irish flags/symbols, irish sounding farm names etc. None of this should be allowed but unfortunately it is, thus making the bord bia qa mark the only reliable guarantor that people should look out for if they want to buy genuine irish food and support irish food producers.
Thanks for the interesting perspective. It would be interesting for a study to do be done on the effect of the Bord Bia quality mark. Yes, we're told it's important, and we're told that customers pay attention to it, but it would be nice to quantify that effect.
Incredibly informative video, this is the kind of information the people of Ireland should arm themselves with to annoy the politicians about. Any waste of public spending is a huge middle finger to the working person, who could otherwise be benefitting from better public transport or lower wait times to see a health professional! This country is in dire need of a shift towards looking after the taxpayer. Without us the country would be in ruin!
Fair enough! And you’re not alone no doubt. Saying that we could survive without the Q mark isn’t to say that it is completely useless. The argument is rather that there are better things the state’s finite resources could be spent on
I didn't know this mark means anything, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. You buy something, you see if it's good or not to make an educated decision about future purchases, one "certificate" shouldn't dictate if the food is good or not.
When I was growing up you'd never knowingly purchase British beef, not out of some sense of nationalism, but due to foot and mouth and the poor standards they had set for themselves. The quick way of distinguishing what was what was to see the bord bia quality mark, I know it's Irish, which sure doesn't mean anything more than seeing a union flag on British beef. However it reassured me and still does that it was good quality.
Wonderful video. Feel like HSE needs separate budgets one for admin/management and one for frontline with the admin one capped or cut on a monthly basis based off productivity targets.
We can all sense the lack of value from government but thank you for showing us where our money is going. I paid less taxes and got a lot more where I am from. I just presumed partly there is a deficit in infrastructure from when the Ireland was poor, and that it just has further to catch up.
Side points, we DO absolutely need those Irish Safety Boards like Bord Bia Food Safety gaurantees. Even now, we have issues with chancy farmers and cheapskate shops trying to import dodgy and dangerous products or selling bad produce to cut costs. The qualities there are not at ALL "subjective" either as claimed in the vid, those "public sector workers" he discusses dismissively are scientists who tests and ensure clear and sincere quality standards. The video overall has an air of "libertarianism" to it, the "Big State is bad" logic that can be true in parts, but for those who work in some of the sectors being dismissed here it is kinda clear the person talking is making vast generalisations and sweeping assumptions that are quite flawed at points to push the "government bad" type simplification
The State is the people of Ireland not the politicians. Politicians are hired to row our boat and we are the coxswain. Somehow we forgot our task and allowed the rowers to command our boat and we became mere bystanders.
Correction: our income tax is nowhere near 52%. It’s 20% on income below 42,000 and 40% after that. And thats before credits, which everyone gets 1.8k. So the average person pays about 30% tax, if not less… better than the EU average
After bills today i managed to save €8 in my bank account. Thats not a negative number this time so i would say things for me in Ireland has improved. Feeling fancy, might spend that 8 euro on chicken fillet roll.
these bodes act as cushioning for a deeply centralised governnment, diverting money on a national level from Dublin that would be put to better use by local governnment.
Even though all those thing has some negative impact i find it unlikely that total budget of all these orgs is significant for the overall national budget
What a brilliant video and channel 👏 The endless addiction to an expansionary state spending is a worrying trend indeed. As they say the only NGO that was cut in recent years was Benifacts, the entity that recorded the financial affairs of the other NGO's
Im greatefull to Irealand and Irish ppl for taking care of my grandmother who moved there 24 years ago. She is a full fledged citizen for 6 years now too. Ive been to central Ireland and Dublin right before covid, and it got me depressed. Lived in Ireland for a year in 2004/5. After visiting in 2019 the difference was staggering, 2008 crisis did hit Ireland hard. I live in England, and I would have never thought id see an empty motorway in the middle of the day anywhere in this region - yet in Ireland thats what I saw. Smaller towns in huge decline to. Havent seen any young ppl on the streets in town that my grandma lives. Probably brain drain into bigger cities, wasnt like that in 2004. I feel for Ireland. Beautiful country with beautiful and nice ppl. I wish Ireland and Irish ppl all the best
dont get me wrong. England has many problems of its own. Probably same situation in smaller population centers (I live in Manchester). We have our own problem of South getting all the funding and North basically holding on by being carried by strong regional leadership. I doubt if our mayor wasnt as good at his job as he is - that Manchester would be developing as fast as it does
Can feel the same problems over here in England with the bloated civil service and a government trying to distract the gullible, Scotland and Wales aren't much better, and NI has perhaps the most incompetent assembly ever put together. This isles need a bit of renovating.
There is an entire generation of people who will never know the pleasure of owning their own home and i One of them😢 We have effectively been robbed as a generation by government's big business And the wealthy At a certain point it should be reasonable for this generation to simply stopped paying taxes for services that they aren't receiving any benefit from and the basic requirements for a reasonable life our grandparents were able to afford on one in come Because we have been failed by the system..
These videos are a public service at this stage. Great work clearly laying out with facts and figures what most people in Ireland suspect - that there's very little value for money in the tax spend and that the front line isn't being prioritised.
A similar situation occurs in Canada. Interesting that there aren't more efficiencies given your geographic/population concentration. Canadians are so, so spread out over such an enormous area that costs are necessarily very high. For example, the province I live in has a bit smaller population than Ireland but is nearly 8 times the area in square kilometres (84,000 vs 661,000 with Canada being 9.9M sq. Km). Somehow, it seems like a smaller country would have an advantage in that way. Proportionally, you are paying more though. 90B for 5 million vs. 450B for 39 million. So, Ireland spends roughly 18B per million people and we spend roughly 11B per million.
We are an island which also has an effect on costs of imports. We have a population the size of Yorkshire, and maintain an army, navy and airforce. Two houses of parliament and we have a president. To maintain this, we pay high taxes, however, many of our educated and entrepreneurial class will emigrate to avoid the tax system, housing shortage and indeed the climate.
Welcome to the UK experience guys! Glad to have you here. Pay more get less! I used to really admire the Irish government for how small and agile it was, able to react and change and make good policy based upon global conditions. Now though, it just seems to be turning into a UK style quagmire, with a massive amount of non-productve, non- frontline civil servants.
For context and some nuance, worth mentioning that regulated financial service providers in Ireland are subject to pay a funding levy to the Central Bank for being regulated. It also does not have a competition mandate. The Bank also manages a substantial portfolio where 80% of profits are returned to the Exchequer and 20% go toward the Bank. I do not know the specific breakdown of funding but worth highlighting it is not wholly funded and paid for by Irish citizens taxation. Previous points are all publicly available information
I can't speak for Ireland, but living in central London it is amazing how many people are getting paid a full salary for working very hard whilst achieving nothing tangible. Its like every marketer, HR manager, recruiter, lawyer, etc makes operating in the economy more complex through their work, thus warranting the need for more of these useless professionals who all need a salary.
I wouldn’t say some jobs and positions are not needed any more, rather they have evolved and transformed from their original purpose. In this case they have been left behind rather than not being needed any more. Still very informative video, loving the content ❤
This does not answer your title question? I usually I like your videos in their presentation, even if i dont agree all the time but this , i dont know what the argument was. The video felt contradictory and had a typical 'public sector is bloated, private better at self regulation' narrative, but only then to pivet in the conclusion to housing and infrastructure arguements (which are clearly bigger issues for while we feels poor that largerly is private sector failure). Also the point about after 2008, Tourism Ireland helped local industry during a crisis, yet now after the Covid crisis they should be axed when you mention small hospitality buisness struggling again. I feel that there was some interesting points but nothing syncs up. Ireland definitly has way too many cushiony public sector jobs but i dont feel like this video disects it well
This video is missing a headline figure at the end of the video showing how much potential savings there are if your cuts were implemented. My intuition tells me that the cuts would not amount to a huge amount of money, but I could be wrong.
Absolutely. Really light on hard numbers. EG I looked up Bord Bia, the salaries are 18 million per year. That’s not much in the grand scheme of things.
If you ever get over too the heritage council video, please bare in mind it's probably the only ting keeping the heritage sector alive and dose more for community building and understanding. Not everyting is abought employment
We say on 2 occasions that spending on coxswain is not the main problem. Simply that bord bia and failte ireland are examples of a broader trend that impacts quality of life
This is so depressing. I work in the Arts, however I've found myself pushed into admin & I practice less and less to facilitate everyone else.... The criteria to get funding is so complex it needs specialists to apply for it now, it feels.
Excellent video in some regards. Undermined by the constant use of average salaries. They mean practically nothing. Also referring to nurses as a quango is insulting to one of the few groups in the public sector that work like dogs
Unfortunately this situation has become normal, governments,politicians have gained more and the people who worked before are sick and tired just to work for taxes to pay for incompetent politicians !
That image of the unbuilt Galway Bypass just sums up everything that's wrong with planning in Ireland. Over 20 years now since it was first proposed and is, as of yet, being held up by a very vocal minority. With so many quangos to appeal to it can be stalled indefinitely.
As a young Irish person Ireland only appeals when im back on holiday or telling gringos about it. People always say you'll move back one day but the way its going i cant see it
One of the main problems is housing here, idk how this is even possible but somehow there is absolutely no affordable living space anywhere near Dublin, and I’m very sure that some policy makers somewhere fucked this up royally
I've not managed to find evidence of the 52% tax rate band on the Revenue sites. I can find the Minister for Finance claiming it exists in the Dáil record though. Where did you find this?
I arrived in Australia in Melbourne last week its like a fog has lifted. The public transport works and arrives on time. There are great sports facilities in public parks. Visible police, Loads of options for apartments to rent that are of a high quality. its just the basics done well and it makes a difference
If you look at the hse jobs site their are as many admin jobs as front line ones. Great video and I would agree with most of it. I work for a multinational in the private sector and to say we're lean is an understatement. If there's a saving to be made we will find it. Budgets don't get bigger, they get smaller. I wonder are a lot of these quangos a throwback to our post colonial times that for lots of reasons we haven't moved on from. Ireland created state jobs for people and times have moved on.
You have identified the key costs of housing, energy and transport. The quangos are but a small part of the gombeen levies we pay. The biggest issue is the false property market. It costs almost half to build the same house in NI. Developers, Banks and insurance companies are price fixing oligopolys. The energy market it a facade, just adds 20 % for a margin and marketing. Government doesn't row anymore. It privatises so their buddies can make money while delivering less.
great video. shame the general public are oblivious to most of the facts presented in this video. just as the government want i assume. heartbreaking thing is, this will not change and regardless of the governments stated sunset objective, young people like myself feel forced to leave the country we grew up in. simply not worth staying
I’ve been saying it for years! Scandinavian tax levels without Scandinavian level services!
4 year wait to see a hospital consultant. Incredible. Farce of a country.
The Orkney Islands could be a part of the Kingdom of Norway, soon!
Do you celebrate Beltane?
India is said to have similar issues
If the Irish want a better local economy they need to demand lower taxes and local taxes.
So the corporations pay no tax but the people pay it all?
Really appreciate the quality of this channel while focusing on Ireland. Not easy to do with such a niche topic. Earning a patreon subscription
Thanks a lot!
real engineering jumpscare
Two of my favorite channels
Anything but building a train to the airport
They want to build a metro to the airport but it would be better with an actual electric train on electrified infrastructure. They are too short sighted.
@@Andrzej360a metro is an electric train.
@@flytrapYTP not underground (I phrased it poorly)
@@flytrapYTP No but only metro trains can really run on it (providing it uses third rail). And they've been planning it since the 90s, it really goes to show what state Ireland's transport infrastructure and planning is in.
honest to god!
There was a report done recently where when it comes to expendable income, Ireland ranks at the same level as Poland and Romania. We are not a rich country. It's a facade.
It all goes back to America
That’s consumption and it’s because Irish people save a lot more. If you’ve actually ever been to Romania or Poland you’d know it’s incomparable
actual lies ireland is above the eu average and 10-15% off the top of the list of Luxemburg and co and thats if you fix for pps and merely 35% higher than poland (113% more if you just go euro to euro) and 50% more than romania (144% euro to euro)....nice facts tho
@@dark1810 It included the cost of living - what the people of Ireland ultimately are left with is the same as these countries. I can't locate the article sadly, it was several months ago.
Just search up Countries' disposable income ranked. Ireland slightly above a country who just got their independence not long ago 💀
After spending 10 years living in Germany and recently returning to Ireland, it is difficult not to be camparing, but I do. Germany tax system and amazing value for money, in relation to childcare costs, education, services and infrastructure compared to the opposite situation here. As a consequence to that, no one is actually LIVING in ireland. Everyone is just surviving, and with added pressures of imagination taking up services, and housing, it is only going to get worse. I'm already planning moving again, because this country, apart from horrible weather and poor value for money, and the nanny state that it is, I want to live.
Brilliant video and so well explained 👏 👍
Germany is a terrible model to compare as they are facing down a population crisis. Ireland needs less regulation not more.
Less imagination please!
The funny thing is, Germany itself is often seen as a nanny state by its neighbours...
Not only by it‘s neighbors.. everything that is good seems to be despite the government and more because of the economy or substance from the past.
I agree Ireland is a kip, but TBF Germany has a Critical Mass population wise to be able to make those big improvements. Ireland's population is pretty low by comparison
It's jobs for the boys. All of these roles are way higher than the average wage because it's selective uplifting. It won't ever change because that's how little islands work unfortunately especially one as estranged from the average person.
My supervisor is one, fake-works almost all day, every day.
You lads do that pile of work over there, and I'll ... I'll tick this box, and brown-nose the boss.
Same in Britain just with a few more people
Not Irish, never been to Ireland, but I see these same issues extending to many other countries too. Here’s my token of support, I hope this video reaches as many as possible!
yup, I've noticed from the intro there's a lot of similarities withmy home country. We have a VAT of 25% though and not one of those big IT companies.. Wages abt 3-4 times less than Ireland and a pitiful job market. So ye, it could be worse for you 😁
the issue has a name. generally it's called capitalism
@@vixen878 Immigration*
Everyday I learn the finances of my country are even stranger than I thought
Really nice to see a channel like this, the UK and US have plenty of channels that outline issues like this, it really helps to put abstract, nuanced problems that really drive the biggest issues in this country into easy to digest forms for the average person.
This video hits the nail on the head, right at the core of one of the main things wrong with this country. Great video 👏
Yes it does seem a bit far right😆 Noticing stuff is far right don't you know
Exactly they’ve put an Irish accent on a US or U.K. based right wing video
It's rubbish.
@@aidantully6979 why? Explain in detail.
@@ULHISIt's made up its mind before and looked for examples to try and prove a point. Why not mention a government body like the IDA? The are an unbelievable success and have helped build the country. There is so much of this video to pick holes in it would that an age to go through.
€2500 a year for car insurance, €1000 per month for a room.
1000€ is really conservative now
In a car dependant country where most people need a car to work, such a joke
Why even bother with a car in that case?
@@debbiegilmour6171 because the public transport is absolutely shit in this country. Ranked as the worst in EU. Buses never on time. Limited routes. To get to point B from A, you have to go to point C first
What the fuck car are you driving?
This has quickly become one of my favourite channels. You have been dishing out very tough yet fair critiques of Ireland
But we don’t know who’s funding this propaganda ?
I work in the energy industry, and generally the biggest issue is navigating the governmental bodies...
Eirgrid, CRU, SEAI, EPA, DECC, ESB.. List goes on, and they all have a reasonably similar function
Interesting, thanks
This was such a well-prepared and well-researched video, and I liked the part where you didn't just complain about the problem, but also provided actionable recommendations! I can also see how these insights easily being applied to many other countries.
Nice job! +1 subscriber.
Always felt we had a bloated and inefficient public sector. The problem is they are so bloated they represent a huge proportion of voters and hence the Goverment bending over for them. I get nothing for the 14% VAT in the hospitality sector and my previous work in construction before that wasn’t viable at all with inflation and interest rates. It’s like you get punished here for entrepreneurship, you work so hard and have to figure out your own pension while incapable people you know rise through the public sector and couldn’t have it handier.
I don’t think we do have a particularly bloated public sector; public spending in Ireland is, correcting for GNI* rather than GNI as a basis, the third lowest as a proportion of the economy in the OECD (it’s the lowest if we don’t correct).
It does seem fairly inefficient- but I think a lot of the cause of that is that we invest very little relative to our spending on current costs.
@@cianbrennan4477It's bloated. State is spending100 billion this year. 30000 NGOs costing 6 billion.
HSE now spending 24 billion with horrendous waiting lists and criminal waste.
You don't say WHY you feel Ireland has a bloated and inefficient public sector. Why do you feel that? I ask this in the context of Ireland not having enough nurses, the smallest defence force in decades and not enough guards or teachers.
Are you sure your not just jealous that you don't work in the public sector?
@@taintabird23 no man, i have a good life. The bueraracy in every sector, mates telling me how little they do, and as illiustrated in the video multiple agency's doing the same job. So yes, bloated. That said, I'd like the money saved from trimming some of the fat put into getting moe, guards, nurses, SNAs, teacher and fill the woeful gaps in child services.
Irelands problem is not the public sector. Irelands needs a larger public sector. Irelands real issue is too much regulations that result in centralised government, high taxes, poor local planning and a constantly overheated economy. In other words Ireland has always been very expensive for the Irish.
I love these videos. So good to have a creator like this, producing informative videos about the country I live in.
HSE employ agency staff at exorbitant costs. Those agency staff sometimes also work for the HSE. Double jobbing. there’s staff shortages because the Agencies take the staff and syphon our taxes. Poor work and No oversight on the work and more profitable to remain in crisis after crisis. It’s sick. Incompetent treacherous failure. All for managerial snobs to have nice houses and drive their range rovers around a declining city.
They just slashed my university budget for next year. The building has a colapsing leaking roof. The university is the Technological university but cant even get the engineering building from falling in on itself. This is a help call from a student.
which tu?
I’m at UCD and it’s great, new buildings, new equipment
TUD
TUD
Uncontroversially brilliant. Fair play. Keepem coming!
If you did a video on the UK, you'd see exactly the same situation. There are no end of pointless NGOs and other bodies. In the area I live, we have an "Arts" organisation who's focus is painting murals and sticking up statues for no apparent reason.... meanwhile we have people sleeping in the doorway of the local Police station.... The fact they can find hundreds of thousands of Pounds for random pieces of Art but can't house the rough sleepers is typical of the problem both our countries face.
Interesting, thanks for the UK perspective. Would like to do the UK at some point
Noooo! Let them stew in the mess they've made. There's plenty of commentary about that but very little quality analysis of Ireland as a distinct separate entity.
We've diverged a lot from the UK already and the differences will only get bigger. It's a different country now, not our problem.
Obviously, comparisons and lessons learned are useful, and the north is a complicating factor. But comparisons with other satraps of Silicon Valley, or Scandinavia, might be more useful.
Probably need to make the comparison with other large European countries. Was going to say everyone else was just as bad, but clearly Ireland spends more on pointless bureaucracy than Scandinavian countries, as you demonstrate.
Something like £11 million was spent on gold alone for the big Ben restoration.
@@chrisgraythereal Ireland is not unique. If you go to most wealthy nations you'd see exactly the same thing with people complaining about housing prices, Health and inflation.
I work in health care here. We have a 24/7/365 service which is extremely disruptive to our lives and we are permanently under staffed, working hard every single day. We can take or leave our jobs. There are loads to move on to. From what I hear working beyond o to 5 is OPTIONAL in the private sector! We have nothing left to give. So I pity the government there on that one. How can they work us harder? They can only cut pay...but roles are already empty with no interest in them so that might not be such a good idea.
I couldn't agree with you more.
But there is a reason why these departments are run in this way. Getting a job in a semi-state or state agency is literally the only way you can get a secure job with good working conditions in Ireland. So you have agencies full of people who are dedicated to protecting and enhancing a very rare commodity; pensions, flexible hours, voluntary overtime, the right to join a union and a less oppressive management environment.
I would suggest that we're looking at this wrong. If we want to engender a better and more dynamic public sector we could start with having a standard pension system across all work places so as people can move in and out of the public sector more easily without the fear of losing this benefit. We could make union membership a right in all work places and we could provide more funding to the private sector to train better management; less obsessed with the short term bottom line, more interested in building a sustainable dynamic workplace.
My point is that it's not a simple as closing down a load of agencies. This won't stop other agencies and their budgets ballooning afterwards to fill in the gaps. There needs to be more convergence between the public and private sector job markets. To do this we need a change of work culture.
You're talking like government workers are the ones who create the job slots for themselves. Yes, people would rather work in government because the job is less demanding and benefits higher, but that's only because someone else posted the job opening. Fewer public-sector job openings and trimming up the fat is a top-down, not a worker's-choice decision. And that decision is independent from whether the private sector should be mandated to give more benefits or something.
If you want to force private-sector workers to unionize, just do it. It would be bad and a drag on the economy, but go ahead and do it and don't use it as an excuse to keep the state bloated and needlessly impoverishing the taxpayer.
If Ireland was Federated along the lines of the 4 provinces and Dublin, we could make our country much more efficient.
The Canadian constitution is already a model for this. For example, instead of having a position of ‘Lieutenant Governor General’ you could call the position a ‘Prefect’ like regional governors in France.
Federating Ireland along County lines likely wouldn’t work for anyone except Dublin because the population of most are much smaller than Swiss Cantons.
The counties should be given more power though, and Ireland’s local boroughs and Mayors that were abolished in 2014 should be restored as many local areas have had no regional autonomy since and are merely run by faceless civil servants.
Yes there is incompetence in the Irish government and quangos, however i question the solution put forward in this video, which to a large degree is simply privatisation.
This is making the assumption first off that the private sector is competent which is doubtfully, but more worryingly there is a naïve belief that the free market would leads to optimal resource use. It needs to be made clear that the sole motive of the private sector is shareholder profit, and that does not translate to an equal distribution of wealth.
Last part about investments in trains and medical equipment rather than motorways is brilliant !
“Equal distribution of wealth” and “optimal resource use” are very different goals. Free market is great at the latter, it just may not be what we want.
equal distribution of wealth as in communism ? do people produce equally so that they deserve equal income ? this way you will fast track everyone being equally unproductive. Why would people work harder if all wealth is distributed equally? smh, go north korea plz, heard it's wonderfully equal there
@@oanacalinandrei4111 Communism was never about an equal distribution of wealth just that no one owns private property or means of production which is why it failed, but those are the top were still living in relative luxury compared to those at the bottom.
As a taxpayer wouldn't you want your money to go further?
I live in continental Europe and despite my adopted country being considered a 'social democracy' we have virtually none of these pointless quangos. The ones that do exist also have a commercial remit so they have to break even in some way to justify their existence.
Because of this, while I pay Irish tax rates, I also get free education to masters level for my kids, very affordable childcare, universal healthcare, affordable housing and transport. The system is entirely unionized but constantly reforming as unions see it as their duty to improve their professions rather than simply protect outdated work practices.
This is the way things should work in Ireland but we've decided that any public sector reform is always a cutback or some slippery slope to private sector interests running everything. It means nothing ever changes.
We didn't need a quarter of this when the little nuns were running the hospitals. They ran VERY tight ships and you would be in and out in an hour, having been seen and competently treated.
These videos are incredibly important. These are high quality well researched videos that shine a lot where people generally don’t have the time or understand to do themselves. You should be proud of yourselves, these videos bit by bit make our population demand better
I agree in large part with the video. The problem is though, that no-one is calling for any of these changes. Nobody will ever protest in favour of shutting/merging these entities, and nobody will run for election on the platform of reducing spending.
The only way reforms like these will ever pass is when shit hits the fan once again and the government is forced to examine it's books and see what they can afford to cut, along with other austerity measures which defeats the purpose of rediverting the funds to improve the quality of Irish citizens in the first place.
Then when tax revenue increases, these departments grow again and we're right back to square one.
Still, love the video though. Keep them coming
Independent Ireland Party are currently running on this platform. Look at their website a lot is about how much tax money is wasted on pointless stuff instead of putting it in peoples pockets!
@@johngrimes93 Yeah but I also don't want to vote for a vaccine skeptic, anti-immigrant, anti-abortion right wing party. It's not worth compromising so many of my own personal values for the sake of a set of very specific reforms.
It seems to be particularly bad this cycle because the crash put a complete stop to the govt’s capital spending. Then when the money came back there was more of it available to spend directly on jobs. If we had been using the money for housing or rail lines it would have imposed more discipline.
This is true. Back during the boom I remember Michael Noonan as Fine Gael leader ran on a platform of tying 'benchmarking' to public sector reform, cutting quangos and voluntary redundancies. It was about as popular as a fart in a lift. Instead Fianna Fail trounced Fine Gael in the next election and continued expanding the public sector until we were bankrupt.
The reality is that the Irish people have no idea what their taxes can actually get them in terms of good public services. Most have never lived in continental Europe much less experienced the balance these places have between progressive taxes and functioning, efficient universal public services. They only understand that it's an either/or situation where you're shoveling cash into public services or cutting it to the bone. Reform has no place unless you're looking for trouble.
@@johngrimes93 How would 'putting money in peoples pockets' fix the public service?
Why stop the western rail at sligo, why not continue into Donegal and link up to Derry/Northern Ireland railway system.
All for continuing it!
@@polysee Not a criticism loved the video, however, the Wild Atlantic Way does after all begin in County Donegal and we have no rail links to Northern Ireland or the rest of the Republic and no motorways either. A rail link from Donegal to Tuam would be a godsend along with access to northern Irelands rail network to Belfast.
Agreed on that, Donegal is neglected there is no doubt about it. An oversight on our part!
@@polysee You might want to look and passenger numbers in the Limerick to Athenry section which are abysmal consisting mainly of day trippers and pensioners. If they simply reinstate the line and don't look at population densities at the stops it will be a complete waste of money. It will then have to stay operational because closing down or reforming a white elephant in Ireland is nigh on impossible.
Someone told me their county had many train services/lines. Gov stepped in and now only 1.
Very well put. Big government for a small nation simply doesn't make sense.
I’m not sure we have big government tbh; multiplying our figure for general government spending as a proportion of GNI (from the OECD, 24.4%) by the GNI to GNI* ratio (1.4x to correct for multinationals distorting our economic statistics) you get ~34.16% of the economy being government. This seems like a lot, but puts us 3rd from last in the OECD.
@@cianbrennan4477 we dont have a big government, weak little kittens more like.
This video is propaganda from undeclared lobbyists . Organisations like the IDA, bird bia, failte Ireland are world famous success stories that other countries have fought hard to copy
This video is so spot on! 👍
I am so tired of so called "professionals" who are just free loading or cause active harm.
Real professionals and productive classes are so squeezed and overworked. Think doctors, nurses, builders, private sector employees. All whilst unproductive class is ballooning!
If RTÉ made quality digital content like Al Jazeera and actually did a good job bringing our country's perspective to an international audience then I wouldn't mind them receiving tax funding. Better Irish language content is something they should make aswell.
I have been saying this for years. Too many people in the public sector doing jobs that have no purpose
Nílim cinnte fén gcáineadh ar Bord Bia, ní hamháin go mbronnann siad lipéidí ar bhia nó go mbíonn siad ag taispeáint do dhaoine conas uaineoil a chócaireáil. Má tá lipéad Bord Bia ar tháirge bia, ciallaíonn sé sin, ní hamháin gur as Éirinn don táirge ach go bhfuil caighdeán éigin i gceist. Bíonn cigirí de chuid Bord Bia ag tabhairt cuairte ar fheirmeoirí an t-am ar fad ag féachaint an bhfuil an fheirm á rith go sábháilte (do na hainmhithe, na feirmeoirí agus na tomhaltóirí go léir - mar shampla ag scagadh admhálacha leighis, leasú talún srl.). Táim cinnte gur féidir cuid mhór den airgead a théann chucu a ghearradh siar, ach tá i bhfad níos mó i gceist leo ná eagraíocht fógraíochta. An-suimiúil mar sin féin, táim ag tnúth go mór leis an gcéad cheann eile.
ní feirmeoir mé ach maidir le na cigirí, nach bhfuil cigire ón Roinn Talmhaíochta cuairt ar na feirmeacha ar fud na tíre freisin. chomh maith le Bord Bia agus bhféidir cigirí eile ón na HSA?
táim ag tacaíocht feirmeoireacht sábháilte agus gach le sin. ach cén fáth nach bhfuilimid in ann an t-aon eagraíocht a bheith acu chun iniúchtaí feirme a bainistiú
Aontaím freisin gurb é airgead margaíochta an chuid is lú dár n-imní ach bhféidir gur áit níos éasca chun tosnú leis?
@@superiorniall Ní raibh ceann ón HSE againn riamh, measaim go bhfuil an ceart agat fén Roinn Talmhaíochta, ach formhór acu is ó Bhord Bia a thagann siad pé scéal é. Ach tá sé dochreidte go bhfuil buiséad na tíre méadaithe faoi dhó laistigh de cúpla bliain.
All bord bia inspections should be done by the dept. of ag - get rid of the others - including coucil and hsa inspections. Far too much duplication. The med. records are done for the dept. of ag anyway
Tá an Bord Bia thar a bheith usáideach. Tá gá leis, ach tá eagrachtaí eile a bhfad níos measa .
Ta mise i mo chonai thar lear so ta aithne agam ar cupla daoine ata ag obair le Bord Bia agus d'fhreastal me ar event no dho a bhi eagraithe acu. O mo thaobh fein, bionn cuma air ar an sceal go ndeanann sian an-obair anseo (thar lear). Ar an gcead dul sios, nil a dhothain airgead ag an cuid is mo de na brands as Eirinnn le haghaidh marketing a dheanadh thar lar, agus nil na achmhainne acu le haghaidh caidreamh le suppliers agus distibutors a thogail. As an meid a chual me, cabhrionn Bord Bia leis na brands beaga sna habhair seo. Chomh maith le sin, is saghas springboard e Bord Bia do dhaoine a bhfuil talent acu. Dar no, bionn mi-usaid ann ach ar iomlan ta me ceaptha gur ceann de na quangos mhaithe iad. Faraor, nil ach anecdotes agam so ta me ag tnuth go mor leis na sraitheanna fise ata ag teacht.
p.s. ce chomh alainn e le bheith ag caint as Gaeilge ar an abhair seo?
It's so refreshing to see a video pointing out the issues we have here without being sensational or doing the Facebook approach of just shouting about it with nonsensical solutions. Top stuff, shared, subscribed, etc.
There is ample bureaucracy in private sector too, in particular the multinational corporations and they're most efficient at keeping down the wages and conditions of their employees. Those at the very top take eye-watering sums of money in salaries, benefits, dividends etc and can hire expensive accountants to help them avoid paying tax and offshore massive amounts of money.
Will certainly watch the video about the Irish health system, it's ridiculous how it's run and funded. If instead of having multiple bodies inside it like trusts as St James hospital and CHI there was only one central body, management costs could be massively lowered and procurement could be done nationally which would increase the leverage on negotiating with suppliers greatly reducing the price per unit.
Thank you for this illuminating piece of work. 75% of the Irish people know something is wrong in Ireland, and it manifests itself in a number of ways: housing, homelessness, mismanagement of immigration, HSE inefficiencies, to name but a few. There are 30000 employed in the NGO sector alone.The core issue is too many people seeking secure relatively well paid jobs with relative status, and why wouldn't they as a return on their.efforts in third level education. Except, third level education is not necessarily the edifying thing that people might assume it is. Look at the current protests on US campuses, for instance.We need to repurpose some of these Quangos towards better awareness of big government, towards more trades and technical apprenticeships, and more export driven startups.
What are you talking about???? Public Sector workers are not NGO sector workers eg Teachers, Gardai, the Administrators that deal with your Dole payment. Also the MNE sector in also employs over 300 thousand people and that is thanks to the IDA (one of these NGO you are on about), which in both 2022 and 2023 got over 240 multi-million dollar investments into Ireland, which increase jobs in this sector. The US Census Bureau reported that Ireland was the second largest European Exporter in the the US market in 2023 and for the first quarter of this year. Housing shortage is a labour shortage in the construction industry and the NIMBY Planning Permission laws in Ireland as well as the increased demand due to the much faster than expected Irish Economic Recovery (Ireland's economy recovered faster than any other European Country and years ahead of the UK, which got the Lion's Share of the Bailout money as it went to Uk investors). Refugees are being shipped to Ireland via the North by the Uk Government to undermine the North's economy as it is the only part of the uk doing well after brexit.
Thank you for making this video Polysee, it was a lot of work and we all so appreciate it. x
This needs as much attention as possible. Thank you for putting in the work!
An outstanding analysis by Polysee. Other worthless QUANGOS include the Education and Training Boards, and The Teaching Council of Ireland.
Why is the ETB worthless?
How so? (not baiting, genuinely curious to learn)
The Road Safety Authority...... try booking a driving test. Clown world.
@@martinrea8548 there's a very definite line between inefficient and worthless. The RSA is by no means worthless
Would you guys please stand for election? Because I'm damned if I'm going to vote for any of the four most useless political parties in the western hemisphere. There is not an ounce of vision in the Dáil.
Ha well we often discuss politics, and ironically an upcoming episode of ours is on the barriers to entry to politics. The opportunity cost is so high, good people with options simply don’t want to put up with the abuse, stress, social media etc. It is a worrying trend across the West
@@polyseeno stress if done right
Hereditary positions are a key part; long-ingrained expectations of friends and family on those in government-funded positions to take their place/alongside simply expands the issue.
Minor point here, but Bord Bia do provide some great marketing and market research services to irish food brands. So the certifications arent their only purposes
Edit: also hell yes on that rail from Sligo to Galway. I basically never go to Galway because the road is not great, and it's just not worth it. If it was only an hour and a half on the train though I'd be down there a lot more often
Thanks, agreed all these quangos do good work, the question we ask is this the very best way we can spend public money
@@polysee completely agree! I'm almost 27 and the thought of having a home and living a life similar to my parents seems absolutely laughable. You're doing great work with these vids and I hope they blow up!
As a farmer I despise bord bia and it's quality assurance. The bottom line is money - it has not resulted in a price rise in ag products ( we were told it would) - and the purchaser buys overwhelmingly on price too, nevermind little overlooked badges. If it benefits anyone it's the processors. The quality, price or taste of the product does not change regardless. Processors would not be long in letting you know if there is a problem.
@@cormacbrowne9571100% correct, Bord Bia gets nearly 100 million. It treats farmers terribly with a horrendous audit and does the dirty work for the dept of ag.
It's a few cents for heifers and bullocks ,nothing for cows buls.
Fat salaries and pensions for this monster. All benefit to the retailers.
I fail to see how removing Failte Ireland or deregulating our food standard agency would in increase standard of living. I'm not saying these organizations are pinnacles of efficient government, but it's putting makeup on a pig.
Housing & healthcare are fundamental human rights, and are rotten to the core in Ireland. Both of these issues require huge amounts of work from a government, the latter requiring full restructuring of the HSE. It needs somebody with an actual neck and a plan.
Fixing housing would mean lowering the value of the Dail Eireann's retirement plans, so thats also out. There is no incentive for them to actually make any progress.
Once the actual cost centers are dealt with, we can move on to looking at restructuring the small fry. Would you get plastic surgery while you had a deadly infection in your leg?
Average salary in Ireland is higher than Germany or Sweden. If you just look around Sweden or Germany, can we really see any justification for this? Are Irish workers really more productive? I think there's a economic bubble going on here, and when it pops the ramifications will go way beyond Ireland.
We all know what's causing it. We just don't want to say it. American companies are huge for us but the money doesn't spread equally.
Irish income taxes are very high. When countries have really high income taxes that apply to even the working classes, it causes what looks like wage inflation, but with no tangible economic benefit.
Average salary is pretty meaningless statistically, you’re better off looking at median salary.
Yeah what's the point of having a higher avrage salery in ireland when it's impossible to get jobs and besides tech gients in Dublin pay workers peanuts I mean that's why they are here cheap labour because they know the poor desprite irish people will do it for minimum wage.
This video helps to clarify many fears that Americans have about expanding the government’s oversight of things like medical services. The U.S. is a very high tax country despite the seemingly low tax rates-we pay in many other non-financial ways not calculated by economists.
No one ever wants to leave a high paying handy job with a glod plated pension, every government around the world employs academically cautious people that want a stress free life, but lots of money to buy stuff they dont need. They are always going to look after themselves first and pull the ladder up behind them for the next person. They whole system needs changing and the incentives and inequality it creates.
As a foreigner living in Ireland, I can see that people mostly blame it to housing crisis but don't see the big picture. Unfortunately, it feels the Irish have some sort of fear to challenge the status quo. Why is there such a big housing crisis and nobody is protesting in the streets? Anyway, I truly appreciate how I've been treated here. I hope you get a president look we did (Milei) to start cutting these kind of stuff.
As a farmer, the bord bia mark is incredibly important, but for a reason that it shouldnt really have to be... When you see the bord bia quality assurance mark, you know 100% that the food was grown/raised/produced and processed in ireland. Unfortunately, too many brands and supermarket own labels try to mislead us (and are infuriatingly allowed get away with) on provenance by conflating "produced in Ireland" vs "produce of Ireland" green packaging, irish flags/symbols, irish sounding farm names etc. None of this should be allowed but unfortunately it is, thus making the bord bia qa mark the only reliable guarantor that people should look out for if they want to buy genuine irish food and support irish food producers.
Thanks for the interesting perspective. It would be interesting for a study to do be done on the effect of the Bord Bia quality mark. Yes, we're told it's important, and we're told that customers pay attention to it, but it would be nice to quantify that effect.
Incredibly informative video, this is the kind of information the people of Ireland should arm themselves with to annoy the politicians about. Any waste of public spending is a huge middle finger to the working person, who could otherwise be benefitting from better public transport or lower wait times to see a health professional!
This country is in dire need of a shift towards looking after the taxpayer. Without us the country would be in ruin!
I watch this video about once every 2 months, it just makes so much sense. Infuriating that nothing can be changed!
Ha thanks for coming back. I doubt the politicians watch these videos!
I'll be honest although i agree with most of what you said, there's something about the Bord bia Mark on food packaging that reassures me.
Fair enough! And you’re not alone no doubt. Saying that we could survive without the Q mark isn’t to say that it is completely useless. The argument is rather that there are better things the state’s finite resources could be spent on
Ireland doesn't need bord via to do any checks while we're part of E.u. There are extreme strict food production laws
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EU food standards are terrible. When ever I see EU sourced meat on a package I set it back down.
I didn't know this mark means anything, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. You buy something, you see if it's good or not to make an educated decision about future purchases, one "certificate" shouldn't dictate if the food is good or not.
When I was growing up you'd never knowingly purchase British beef, not out of some sense of nationalism, but due to foot and mouth and the poor standards they had set for themselves. The quick way of distinguishing what was what was to see the bord bia quality mark, I know it's Irish, which sure doesn't mean anything more than seeing a union flag on British beef. However it reassured me and still does that it was good quality.
More content like this is great, thank you for the information
Wonderful video. Feel like HSE needs separate budgets one for admin/management and one for frontline with the admin one capped or cut on a monthly basis based off productivity targets.
How much do you think the average admin assistant gets paid hahaha
We can all sense the lack of value from government but thank you for showing us where our money is going. I paid less taxes and got a lot more where I am from. I just presumed partly there is a deficit in infrastructure from when the Ireland was poor, and that it just has further to catch up.
No rail electrification apart from some suburban transit in Dublin. Even Scotland does better, and by European standards we're pretty crap.
Side points, we DO absolutely need those Irish Safety Boards like Bord Bia Food Safety gaurantees. Even now, we have issues with chancy farmers and cheapskate shops trying to import dodgy and dangerous products or selling bad produce to cut costs. The qualities there are not at ALL "subjective" either as claimed in the vid, those "public sector workers" he discusses dismissively are scientists who tests and ensure clear and sincere quality standards.
The video overall has an air of "libertarianism" to it, the "Big State is bad" logic that can be true in parts, but for those who work in some of the sectors being dismissed here it is kinda clear the person talking is making vast generalisations and sweeping assumptions that are quite flawed at points to push the "government bad" type simplification
is there any political momentum behind localism? it seems like a good idea but i haven't seen anyone talk about it outside of this channel
Not yet. We’re doing our best 😄
@@polysee
So are you in favour of lower taxes and local taxes and less central government.
The State is the people of Ireland not the politicians. Politicians are hired to row our boat and we are the coxswain. Somehow we forgot our task and allowed the rowers to command our boat and we became mere bystanders.
Correction: our income tax is nowhere near 52%. It’s 20% on income below 42,000 and 40% after that. And thats before credits, which everyone gets 1.8k. So the average person pays about 30% tax, if not less… better than the EU average
The dialogue says "Ireland’s top rate of income tax at 52%" which is the case, and it's even higher for the self-employed.
This isn't an Ireland-specific problem, it's a neoliberalism problem.
After bills today i managed to save €8 in my bank account. Thats not a negative number this time so i would say things for me in Ireland has improved. Feeling fancy, might spend that 8 euro on chicken fillet roll.
these bodes act as cushioning for a deeply centralised governnment, diverting money on a national level from Dublin that would be put to better use by local governnment.
Even though all those thing has some negative impact i find it unlikely that total budget of all these orgs is significant for the overall national budget
Another great video! Looking forward to this continued series
What a brilliant video and channel 👏 The endless addiction to an expansionary state spending is a worrying trend indeed. As they say the only NGO that was cut in recent years was Benifacts, the entity that recorded the financial affairs of the other NGO's
Please tell me who to vote for, your energy is new and we need more of it. Well done!
Whichever party / politician agrees that Ireland is too centralised and we need to let the counties and regions do more
vote for me
Sinn Fein
Im greatefull to Irealand and Irish ppl for taking care of my grandmother who moved there 24 years ago. She is a full fledged citizen for 6 years now too. Ive been to central Ireland and Dublin right before covid, and it got me depressed. Lived in Ireland for a year in 2004/5. After visiting in 2019 the difference was staggering, 2008 crisis did hit Ireland hard. I live in England, and I would have never thought id see an empty motorway in the middle of the day anywhere in this region - yet in Ireland thats what I saw. Smaller towns in huge decline to. Havent seen any young ppl on the streets in town that my grandma lives. Probably brain drain into bigger cities, wasnt like that in 2004. I feel for Ireland. Beautiful country with beautiful and nice ppl. I wish Ireland and Irish ppl all the best
dont get me wrong. England has many problems of its own. Probably same situation in smaller population centers (I live in Manchester). We have our own problem of South getting all the funding and North basically holding on by being carried by strong regional leadership. I doubt if our mayor wasnt as good at his job as he is - that Manchester would be developing as fast as it does
Can feel the same problems over here in England with the bloated civil service and a government trying to distract the gullible, Scotland and Wales aren't much better, and NI has perhaps the most incompetent assembly ever put together. This isles need a bit of renovating.
There is an entire generation of people who will never know the pleasure of owning their own home and i One of them😢
We have effectively been robbed as a generation by government's big business And the wealthy
At a certain point it should be reasonable for this generation to simply stopped paying taxes for services that they aren't receiving any benefit from and the basic requirements for a reasonable life our grandparents were able to afford on one in come Because we have been failed by the system..
These videos are a public service at this stage. Great work clearly laying out with facts and figures what most people in Ireland suspect - that there's very little value for money in the tax spend and that the front line isn't being prioritised.
Thanks for the kind comment. Much appreciated
A similar situation occurs in Canada. Interesting that there aren't more efficiencies given your geographic/population concentration. Canadians are so, so spread out over such an enormous area that costs are necessarily very high. For example, the province I live in has a bit smaller population than Ireland but is nearly 8 times the area in square kilometres (84,000 vs 661,000 with Canada being 9.9M sq. Km). Somehow, it seems like a smaller country would have an advantage in that way.
Proportionally, you are paying more though. 90B for 5 million vs. 450B for 39 million. So, Ireland spends roughly 18B per million people and we spend roughly 11B per million.
Oh, and yes, this is some of the most in-depth, intelligent and insightful content on the brokenomics of this country. Brilliant.
We are an island which also has an effect on costs of imports.
We have a population the size of Yorkshire, and maintain an army, navy and airforce. Two houses of parliament and we have a president. To maintain this, we pay high taxes, however, many of our educated and entrepreneurial class will emigrate to avoid the tax system, housing shortage and indeed the climate.
This is a brilliant analysis, and hope it gets more attention.
Welcome to the UK experience guys! Glad to have you here. Pay more get less!
I used to really admire the Irish government for how small and agile it was, able to react and change and make good policy based upon global conditions. Now though, it just seems to be turning into a UK style quagmire, with a massive amount of non-productve, non- frontline civil servants.
For context and some nuance, worth mentioning that regulated financial service providers in Ireland are subject to pay a funding levy to the Central Bank for being regulated. It also does not have a competition mandate. The Bank also manages a substantial portfolio where 80% of profits are returned to the Exchequer and 20% go toward the Bank. I do not know the specific breakdown of funding but worth highlighting it is not wholly funded and paid for by Irish citizens taxation. Previous points are all publicly available information
Thanks for context. Fees paid by industry will ultimately be borne by consumers
I can't speak for Ireland, but living in central London it is amazing how many people are getting paid a full salary for working very hard whilst achieving nothing tangible. Its like every marketer, HR manager, recruiter, lawyer, etc makes operating in the economy more complex through their work, thus warranting the need for more of these useless professionals who all need a salary.
I agree with all, except, bord bia quality assurances, one of Ireland greatest achievements around food
Absolutely right on , this Country is fecked so expensive to live here
I wouldn’t say some jobs and positions are not needed any more, rather they have evolved and transformed from their original purpose. In this case they have been left behind rather than not being needed any more. Still very informative video, loving the content ❤
This does not answer your title question? I usually I like your videos in their presentation, even if i dont agree all the time but this , i dont know what the argument was. The video felt contradictory and had a typical 'public sector is bloated, private better at self regulation' narrative, but only then to pivet in the conclusion to housing and infrastructure arguements (which are clearly bigger issues for while we feels poor that largerly is private sector failure). Also the point about after 2008, Tourism Ireland helped local industry during a crisis, yet now after the Covid crisis they should be axed when you mention small hospitality buisness struggling again. I feel that there was some interesting points but nothing syncs up. Ireland definitly has way too many cushiony public sector jobs but i dont feel like this video disects it well
This video is missing a headline figure at the end of the video showing how much potential savings there are if your cuts were implemented. My intuition tells me that the cuts would not amount to a huge amount of money, but I could be wrong.
Absolutely. Really light on hard numbers. EG I looked up Bord Bia, the salaries are 18 million per year. That’s not much in the grand scheme of things.
This is great stuff, this needs to be seen by more people!
If you ever get over too the heritage council video, please bare in mind it's probably the only ting keeping the heritage sector alive and dose more for community building and understanding. Not everyting is abought employment
I really don't think Bord Bia and Fáilte Ireland are the reason for the cost of living crisis
We say on 2 occasions that spending on coxswain is not the main problem. Simply that bord bia and failte ireland are examples of a broader trend that impacts quality of life
Such a brilliant video, well done guys. Really informative and taught me a few things I didn’t know.
This is so depressing. I work in the Arts, however I've found myself pushed into admin & I practice less and less to facilitate everyone else.... The criteria to get funding is so complex it needs specialists to apply for it now, it feels.
Thanks for that
Ask Gary Economics
Excellent video in some regards. Undermined by the constant use of average salaries. They mean practically nothing. Also referring to nurses as a quango is insulting to one of the few groups in the public sector that work like dogs
We don’t refer to nurses as a quango
Unfortunately this situation has become normal, governments,politicians have gained more and the people who worked before are sick and tired just to work for taxes to pay for incompetent politicians !
That image of the unbuilt Galway Bypass just sums up everything that's wrong with planning in Ireland. Over 20 years now since it was first proposed and is, as of yet, being held up by a very vocal minority. With so many quangos to appeal to it can be stalled indefinitely.
As a young Irish person Ireland only appeals when im back on holiday or telling gringos about it. People always say you'll move back one day but the way its going i cant see it
One of the main problems is housing here, idk how this is even possible but somehow there is absolutely no affordable living space anywhere near Dublin, and I’m very sure that some policy makers somewhere fucked this up royally
I've not managed to find evidence of the 52% tax rate band on the Revenue sites. I can find the Minister for Finance claiming it exists in the Dáil record though. Where did you find this?
I guess it's just one of life's mysterys ,it's like all the doctors that are coming into the country and yet we don't have enough doctors.
I arrived in Australia in Melbourne last week its like a fog has lifted. The public transport works and arrives on time. There are great sports facilities in public parks. Visible police, Loads of options for apartments to rent that are of a high quality. its just the basics done well and it makes a difference
Enjoy it there! Hopefully we’ll have this place fixed by the time you return, apart from the weather
@@polysee I hope so too. But sounds like I'll have to stat away quite a while
If you look at the hse jobs site their are as many admin jobs as front line ones. Great video and I would agree with most of it. I work for a multinational in the private sector and to say we're lean is an understatement. If there's a saving to be made we will find it. Budgets don't get bigger, they get smaller. I wonder are a lot of these quangos a throwback to our post colonial times that for lots of reasons we haven't moved on from. Ireland created state jobs for people and times have moved on.
Thanks. It seems to a phenomenon in many countries
You have identified the key costs of housing, energy and transport. The quangos are but a small part of the gombeen levies we pay. The biggest issue is the false property market. It costs almost half to build the same house in NI. Developers, Banks and insurance companies are price fixing oligopolys. The energy market it a facade, just adds 20 % for a margin and marketing. Government doesn't row anymore. It privatises so their buddies can make money while delivering less.
"The consumer doesn't notice the cost of everything going up"
But alas Polysee, we realy feckin' have....
I agree with you other than the certification, certifications on quality are crucial and puts Irish meat as the best in the world
great video. shame the general public are oblivious to most of the facts presented in this video. just as the government want i assume. heartbreaking thing is, this will not change and regardless of the governments stated sunset objective, young people like myself feel forced to leave the country we grew up in. simply not worth staying