What's Up With Irish Consonant Mutation? | Speaking of Language #1
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- This week, I unpack one of the most baffling phenomena in the Indo-European family. It's not as crazy as it looks!
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How this video has gone longer than a year without breaking 1K views is beyond me. What a cool channel. Thank you for the excellent explanation!!!!
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed :)
Some info is incorrect - it is a fact that languages cannot come out of thin air on their own and are created by someone obviously, and any true linguist knows this fact! Each newer language was created by a dude by modifying the spelling and grammar etc of a previous language or multiple previous languages and by creating new words based on the new spelling rules that he’d set - all languages that exist today came in very indirect ways from Proto European which is the first proper language with actual grammar and thousands of words that a dude created from scratch a long time ago with the first writing system, which inspired all other languages and writing systems that exist today, either directly or indirectly, but mostly indirectly, as newer languages were always made my modifying previous languages that were spoken in the surrounding regions or by only using a few elements from previous languages and making the newer language very different, and then the creator of the newer language taught it to a group of ppl and they taught others and so on! Re the Irish language, its creator decided to make it very different and unique, which is why Irish has a very different spelling - Irish and Scottish Gaelic are both category 3 languages and are the hardest languages I’m learning, but luckily they are still on the easier side with mostly pretty words that are easy to memorize, so they are still kinda of easy, especially when compared to the hardest languages ever such as Chinese languages and Japanese which are category 10 languages with impossible characters and tones and most words that are aren’t pretty, and it’s just slightly more complicated than Hungarian and Latvian and Finnish and Estonian which are category 2 languages!
The easiest languages ever are the Germanic languages and the other four modern Celtic languages which are category 1 languages, and the true Latin languages also - the absolute easiest languages that are the easiest to learn and memorize are English / Dutch / Norse / Icelandic / Norwegian / Gothic / Faroese / Danish / Welsh / Breton / Cornish / Manx / Forn Svenska which are the prettiest languages ever, so I highly recommend learning them 2gether with Irish and Gaelic, and, the other Germanic languages and Galician / Latin / Gallo / Spanish / Portuguese / Catalan / Occitan / French / Italian and the other languages based on Italian and French and Slovene are also very easy and pretty!
@@FrozenMermaid666 are you trolling? languages aren't made by any one person or group of people, nor are there straightforwardly easy or hard languages, but only easy or hard with respect to whatever your native language is.
I am stating the obvious FACTS, pfff! Each language was created by a dude (linguist / raider / dude with control over a group of ppl) and each language has its distinctive spelling rules and very elaborate grammar, which ARE the creation of someone, and very few even had the skill and the determination to create a language with tens of thousands of words, and even fewer had / have the artistic talent required to create a pretty language with pretty words aka words with good or great letter combinations that are not random and that go well 2gether and that have pretty word endings, while most that were made to learn the languages have no clue about word construction and language creation, and most don’t even have the determination to learn a new language on their own, let alone create a new language or words, which takes months or even years! And of course some languages ARE objectively hard with extremely complicated writing systems and characters that are naturally hard to read and learn and not relaxing to the eye and that have letter combinations that aren’t good and very heavy spelling and aspect!
This is amazing - your presentation made my finally understand it! Reading Wikipedia articles alone just didn't do it for me. Go raibh maith agat!
Each of the initial mutations has an equivalent elsewhere in the word, but because there it didn't depend on adjacent words, it became fixed as a normal part of the pronunciation. So in the case of "an kladibas", the change happened via an intermediate change ŋk > g, which is also how kwenkwe became cuig. What made initial mutations special is that the sounds involved were part of different words.
I'd love to see your follow on video explaining those parts you've left for another video!
I'm Irish and I have to say fair play for explaining Irish consonant mutation in such a clear way, brilliant video!
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed! The whole working-for-a-living thing makes RUclips harder to keep up with than I'd like... but since there seems to be interest, I'll put Part Two pretty high on the to-do list ;)
An interesting correlation with Welsh - cleddyf = sword. The mutations are similar to those in old Irish (but not the same).
Did not realise that there was a distinction between "n" urú after d and g respectively. Though happy to realise I make the distinction when I talk
This best video I've seen on this
Are you a formally trained linguist or an avid enthusiast? If the latter, I'm impressed! I'm a doctoral student in linguistics myself, having earned my MA in 2015. I wish I'd known you knew this stuff in some of our recent correspondence, LOL! All that circumlocution about pronouncing certain Fs as Vs, for instance and I could've just said, "Remember to voice your intervocalic fricatives"! Anyway, I look forward to more in this series and, of course, to debuting our collaborative work in Old English. Nice work, man!
My bachelor’s is in linguistics! I don’t work in the field so I don’t consider myself “a linguist”, but I certainly have some training! This video is basically an adaptation of my senior colloquium.
Tréaslaím leat! Maith an obair a rinne tú anseo.
I knew g/claiobh and its older forms sounded like Latin "gladius". Turns out Latin loaned from Gaulish!
I loved this video! It answered so many questions I'd had about Irish spelling so efficiently. Will you (or have you) discuss Irish vowels at any point? x
This is simply amazing. I can't find videos about linguistics on RUclips (except langfocus) and it's one of the things that I love the most. By the way I really like Irish as well it's so interesting.
Nice video bro 👍 very cool
You really should have picked words that you can spell. It's 'doras' and 'claíomh' .
I know this is an old video but the word for sword is claoímh not claoíbh. Sounds the same but spelled differently.
And m in Welsh becomes v like man-y van
This is wild
I know some Welsh, you just have to memorise them, it makes pronunciation more fluid.
hey my name is michael too
Mace Windu cool
U forgot how f becomes v in eclipsis.
So when are you going to dub this in old English?
baffling? It seems pretty normal for a Celtic language
RUclips needs more linguistics channels. 👍 Are you a conlanger/Have you ever looked at conlangs, by chance?
Not too much, but I dabbled in DuoLingo’s Esperanto course awhile back and quite enjoyed myself!
You might enjoy this video. The timeline of the Irish language has been messed with, new multidisciplinary research suggests the Celtic languages started in the Islands between in the early Bronze Age, if not before and spread east, rather than having arrived here in the Iron Age. Throws a whole new light on the evolution of the language and its antiquity. ruclips.net/video/G8FM9nMFbfI/видео.html
'an' is not Primitive Irish. It's not even old Irish. It's much more recent. You are really chancing your arm here.
The Irish made their speech willfully hard to learn for outsiders, swear to Odin