Andrew you are actually helping your soil when you till in the grass in. You will give all that nutrients back to the soil. And if you really want to get a boost for next year plant clover and a winter cover crop. The wildlife will love it then come spring till in all that cover crop and your food plot will explode.
@@TKCL what is your plan when it comes to your grazing pastures. Are you going to allow them to grow like normal or are you going to over seed them. And improve the land and soil with good soil management.
Hi Andrew very good review on the tiller and disc. You make everything look so easy. If I were needing any of this stuff your review would be very useful. Love all your videos my friend, 👍👍❤️❤️🇨🇦
Man thanks for the comparison. I was of the same mindset as you thinking the tiller was a lot slower, but this certainly shows the difference. I have three disk harrows (one for each tractor) and I almost bought a tiller a few months ago, but ended up getting another trailer for hauling my equipment around. I also got me a single row planter about the same time so now I have to save up to get that tiller. That thing would work great in my dove field and food plots. Again, I appreciate the comparison.
@@timhilton5096 Hi Tim, when I originally started I wanted to plant wheat, but when I contacted the Game Warden that managed two big fields at a WMA where they planted wheat for doves he recommended Brown Top Millet. I've used that for years and I've also added dove proso millet too. Both of these work great for dove fields. This year I'll be adding sunflowers, but that takes a lot of work and money. It is like growing corn - not easy. Also I'd stay away from sorghum and Egyptian wheat. To me it produces too much foliage. It works, but needs to be row planted and cultivated to keep the ground between clean of grass and weeds. For deer food plots a good mix of wheat, oats, rye (not rye grass) and maybe some rape or turnips with some crimson clover makes a great mix. I focus on the wheat and oats with some rape. I hope this helps some.
And I think the more times you turn that soil I guess he's here and you get a little deeper each time, which is a good thing to introduce more organic into the soil
I can actually see applications for both. My personal preference for previous circumstances would be the tiller. I also feel that it will provide better fuel economy than multiple passes with a disc.
Your probably right, although pto use is usually the highest fuel burner. But with multiple passes in 4wd pulling heavy equipment that will for sure burn the most.
Actually, you kinda need both! When I did the farming at my dads place, I used the disc to loosen and break up the ground roughly after I plowed it, then I would use the tiller to finely chop up the dirt and aerate it. Now you can use the tiller on its own, but like you said, it’s going to be slow going, because the tiller is trying do two jobs at the same time… Breaking up the ground and aerate it at the same time. But then again what do I know? I’m just an old fashioned country boy too.
Andrew been running a disc since i was about 12 and your 1st cut your fine going straight but your 2nd needs to be cross cut especially when cutting in vegetation or for sure you will be making a 3rd and maybe even a 4th pass
I do cross cut a lot and have talked about it in several videos. For the purpose of this demonstration side by side was needed. I don't believe it would have made much difference in these conditions.
@@TKCL I understand wasn't putting you down just make an observation from my past doings sorry if it came off as criticizing and your right it's hard to cut anything in when it's dry ass a powdermakers ars LOL BTW i was just show my wife you crab fishing vid as we will be moving to Monticello 1st of Dec. I have a 187 Scout and can't wait to see what i can find in the bay looks you you wear out the fish and a wide variety.
A rototiller will always turn the ground better and thoroughly at a slow speed than a disc unless that disc is high. Dig high weight. Still the tiller mixes more dirt
I used a disc harrow to chew up the dirt (lots of clay!) when I excavated for my driveway. I took out about 8-10 inches of topsoil/clay by loosening it up with the disc, then using the tractor bucket to shove/carry away the soil before bringing in a first layer of railroad ballast. I use my tiller for preparing new garden areas after a first pass with the disc to break through the sod and bring up the rocks. The tiller leaves a planting bed that is tough to beat! Take care and God Bless.
Tiller appears faster in that sand you have. Up here in Ohio, with the heavy clay, a 3 disc plow with a couple of passes then a Tiller is the ticket for a field your size. The 3 Disc plow is needed to reach down deep and turn the soil so you get good drainage and allow the roots to penetrate beyond the surface layer (potatoes anyone?)
In clay you want to get as much air into the ground so it can warm up. In sandy soil you dont want to much air into it as it will dry it out. This review doesn't make sense, the machines aren't meant for the same job, a disc is a stubble implement while the tiller is used as a sod killing implement. You dont want a tiller to work below the roots but at a depth of 1 inch to cut the plant from the roots. A disc turns the ground like a plow throwing the roots up to dry out wich kills the plant.
It's a hard comparison to a disc that was pulled by a horse and later a tractor to a powered rototiller blade bar beating up wide pieces of ground, it's almost apples to oranges. Sorry Andrew just saying
Great video Andrew. You answered a lot of my questions. When it comes to the seeding , it seems like the disk plow helps you cover up the seeds. You really got to think about what implement needs you have. It's not easy farming 🧺
Bro, I'm impressed that a 24hp tractor pulled that disc like it did
I am too, and that it turned a 5ft tiller. Both of these things I consider oversized for a 24hp tractor.
Thanks for sharing. 🤠
Outstanding overview and comparison! Clear, concise, yet covered all relevant variables.
Glad you enjoyed it
That was an awesome test beautiful I love it. I love everything so anything with tractors and yardwork. I just love everything.
Thank you for watching
Excellent video Andrew! Very informative as usual! Keep em coming!
Thank you for watching
Great video, exactly what I was needing to decide what to get. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi, Andrew! Another excellent and informative video. You are helping many people. See you Sunday at 5:00.
See you then
Great Demonstration & Information. Thanks.
Thank you for watching
Andrew you are actually helping your soil when you till in the grass in. You will give all that nutrients back to the soil. And if you really want to get a boost for next year plant clover and a winter cover crop. The wildlife will love it then come spring till in all that cover crop and your food plot will explode.
You're exactly right and I do allow this next plot to go until late spring and early summer before chopping it in.
@@TKCL what is your plan when it comes to your grazing pastures. Are you going to allow them to grow like normal or are you going to over seed them. And improve the land and soil with good soil management.
Not sure yet, but I do plan to cross fence to take pressure off of one half.
as always. the go to for info on YT.
wont be long!
What a great video!
Thank you for watching
I said disc before hand but I'm used to rocks being the major issue, this really was informative!
So thankful to not have rocks here.
Thanks for informative video. As I am planning on moving to country / land in 2-3 years, I am learning.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Andrew very good review on the tiller and disc. You make everything look so easy. If I were needing any of this stuff your review would be very useful. Love all your videos my friend, 👍👍❤️❤️🇨🇦
Thank you for the support
Great video Andrew, Ruger is getting his lap time in.
He loves to run!
Morning guys
You hit on the key issue for us in central Texas.... very rocky soil. It would just eat a tiller up. So we're relegated to using discs.
Very lucky here, no rocks.
Another great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have several disks and a 5 and6 ft tillers, I like running both but for some reason i enjoy disking more,
It's probably the speed, I enjoy moving more than crawling.
Man thanks for the comparison. I was of the same mindset as you thinking the tiller was a lot slower, but this certainly shows the difference. I have three disk harrows (one for each tractor) and I almost bought a tiller a few months ago, but ended up getting another trailer for hauling my equipment around. I also got me a single row planter about the same time so now I have to save up to get that tiller. That thing would work great in my dove field and food plots. Again, I appreciate the comparison.
I'm thinking I want me a big tiller for my JD 🤔
I’m new to the food plot game and curious what crops work good for you in your dove fields. Thanks
@@timhilton5096 Hi Tim, when I originally started I wanted to plant wheat, but when I contacted the Game Warden that managed two big fields at a WMA where they planted wheat for doves he recommended Brown Top Millet. I've used that for years and I've also added dove proso millet too. Both of these work great for dove fields. This year I'll be adding sunflowers, but that takes a lot of work and money. It is like growing corn - not easy. Also I'd stay away from sorghum and Egyptian wheat. To me it produces too much foliage. It works, but needs to be row planted and cultivated to keep the ground between clean of grass and weeds. For deer food plots a good mix of wheat, oats, rye (not rye grass) and maybe some rape or turnips with some crimson clover makes a great mix. I focus on the wheat and oats with some rape. I hope this helps some.
Good day all.
Hello
Glad that you're teaching now because some people need to learn ground implements and how they work 🚜
I don't know it all, but I do have a few decades under my belt with tractors and some implements.
Great comparison video Andrew. Wish I could use a tiller here but it’s really rocky soil
We are fortunate to have sand
What works well for you in the rocky soil? I’m trying to decide what to buy to use in my rocky fields. Thanks
@@timhilton5096 we use a disc here every year and sometimes a landscape rake to gather rocks that get pulled out by the disc
Dusty work, we need some rain. Nice tiller for that compact tractor.
I can't remember the last time it rained 😪
And I think the more times you turn that soil I guess he's here and you get a little deeper each time, which is a good thing to introduce more organic into the soil
I can actually see applications for both. My personal preference for previous circumstances would be the tiller. I also feel that it will provide better fuel economy than multiple passes with a disc.
Your probably right, although pto use is usually the highest fuel burner. But with multiple passes in 4wd pulling heavy equipment that will for sure burn the most.
The cost to operate fuel I pick the tiller
Actually, you kinda need both! When I did the farming at my dads place, I used the disc to loosen and break up the ground roughly after I plowed it, then I would use the tiller to finely chop up the dirt and aerate it. Now you can use the tiller on its own, but like you said, it’s going to be slow going, because the tiller is trying do two jobs at the same time… Breaking up the ground and aerate it at the same time. But then again what do I know? I’m just an old fashioned country boy too.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have both. Most will only buy one or the other.
Andrew been running a disc since i was about 12 and your 1st cut your fine going straight but your 2nd needs to be cross cut especially when cutting in vegetation or for sure you will be making a 3rd and maybe even a 4th pass
I do cross cut a lot and have talked about it in several videos. For the purpose of this demonstration side by side was needed. I don't believe it would have made much difference in these conditions.
@@TKCL I understand wasn't putting you down just make an observation from my past doings sorry if it came off as criticizing and your right it's hard to cut anything in when it's dry ass a powdermakers ars LOL BTW i was just show my wife you crab fishing vid as we will be moving to Monticello 1st of Dec. I have a 187 Scout and can't wait to see what i can find in the bay looks you you wear out the fish and a wide variety.
No worries, I didn't take it that way. Take care, enjoy the gulf!
A rototiller will always turn the ground better and thoroughly at a slow speed than a disc unless that disc is high. Dig high weight. Still the tiller mixes more dirt
help the farms out on the farm. getting a new small tractor.looks lie everybody are getting small donkeys. be bless.
Andrew the Tiller would be excellent at leveling a yard around the house & smoothing a new driveway before gravel.
I've got some ruts that it will be good for.
I used a disc harrow to chew up the dirt (lots of clay!) when I excavated for my driveway. I took out about 8-10 inches of topsoil/clay by loosening it up with the disc, then using the tractor bucket to shove/carry away the soil before bringing in a first layer of railroad ballast.
I use my tiller for preparing new garden areas after a first pass with the disc to break through the sod and bring up the rocks. The tiller leaves a planting bed that is tough to beat!
Take care and God Bless.
thats a nice tiller! gonna make life a little easier for you!
I like it, I'm going to need to pick me one up.
@@TKCL oh ok its on loan with the electric tractor i take it
No on loan the entire time I have any of their tractors.
@@TKCL awww ok got it!
Tiller appears faster in that sand you have. Up here in Ohio, with the heavy clay, a 3 disc plow with a couple of passes then a Tiller is the ticket for a field your size. The 3 Disc plow is needed to reach down deep and turn the soil so you get good drainage and allow the roots to penetrate beyond the surface layer (potatoes anyone?)
I really need to plow my land as I've been planting on the same top soil for years.
In clay you want to get as much air into the ground so it can warm up. In sandy soil you dont want to much air into it as it will dry it out. This review doesn't make sense, the machines aren't meant for the same job, a disc is a stubble implement while the tiller is used as a sod killing implement. You dont want a tiller to work below the roots but at a depth of 1 inch to cut the plant from the roots. A disc turns the ground like a plow throwing the roots up to dry out wich kills the plant.
Most guys load up their disc with a bunch of cinder blocks or something else that weighs a bunch to make their disc dig in better
No need with a disc this heavy and on a small 24hp tea tractor. I'd wind up spinning.
Which one dug deeper?
While dry like this, the tiller. When the soil is damp I can probably go deeper with the disc.
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It's a hard comparison to a disc that was pulled by a horse and later a tractor to a powered rototiller blade bar beating up wide pieces of ground, it's almost apples to oranges. Sorry Andrew just saying
I think I made the point they are different. Both are for turning ground, but in very different ways.
too fast speed with tiller,,let it go slower for better mixing
Can I make it a hat trick?
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 I hope not 🫣🫣🫣🫣
🤔🤔🤔 I do have the available to make it not happen 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@5150cashOh please 👑Sir Cash....let me revel in my few moments of glory 🤣🤣🤣 Thou dost hog the first comment chalice too often
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@@5150cashdid you get your presant
Hmmm 🤔🤔🤔 i would rather be in a inclosed tractor then a open cab. Dusty 🫣🫣🫣🫣
Lol yep, especially when you have the option.
@@TKCL LoL 😆
Go to bed Cash! 😉
@@TKCL I'm trying 😴
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Great video Andrew. You answered a lot of my questions. When it comes to the seeding , it seems like the disk plow helps you cover up the seeds. You really got to think about what implement needs you have. It's not easy farming 🧺
Very true on covering seeds, although I usually pack them in.