@@thegdpwhytea439 'British Rail and the nationlisation shut down thousands of miles of rail track' Thats what happens when your so underfunded you need to save money.
@@chrisw_321 The lines were ripped up because Marples had stocks and investments in road construction and ripping up the rails would make number go up. Saving money was just the lie they sold to placate the general population.
Britain: Island nation Former empire Monarchy Former naval power Japan: Island nation Former empire Monarchy Former naval power How tf did japan go above and beyond in trains and became the envy of the world and britain’s train’s became a laughing stock
Both are fascist hellholes, but one is significantly more corrupt, with an upperclass who detests everyone and everything. When you own what you are policing and regulating, you aren't going to de very good job, it would hurt profits.
@@chieftainmk_11 Yeah. All our services, meaning i the aame form as military, like a duty to be done for the good of the society were sold off, privatised: air, rail, water, electricity, gas(?), telephones... We tore up tracks to "small" communities in the 60's, Dr. Beeching, privatised the rail, "to make it more affordable and better furnished", and we still subsidise passenger rail, we pay taxes that cover some rail usage and still pay for tickets, all the money goes to faceless shareholders, rather than into the government, for public good. If you steal a public good from the public it becomes neither public nor good. Everyone calls our right wing party, the Conservative Party, the Tories for good reason, it means thief or bandit in old Middle Irish Gaelic. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tories_(British_political_party) When Japan privatised their main lines it remained good due to the public's reliance on it, similar to the UK's Royal Mail, despite privatisation it's still essentially the same system, it's too essential to screw it up. Shame about the undergound mail railways, they were cool, and didn't block narrow city roads with huge lorries.
@@radfoxuk8113 Japans main train company JR is a licensed monopoly by the japanese goverment but doesnt abuse its power of being a monopoly,Owning the property around its rails (Say theres an apartment next to train tracks its owned by JR now) and its massive revenue is a testament to the japanese honesty,culture and standards.
It may seem like BR weren't as good as they were made out to be, but the investment and innovation in BR's heyday (the 1970s) really is worlds ahead of the current private scene's commitment to running trains.
On the American side (I'm American): Reject Freight Rail Domiance. Reject Auto & Airline Lobbying. Reject Private Services. Demand Safety, and Sustainability . Nationalize Freight Rail. Invest in Amtrak. Invest in Electrification. Retain Hope. Build Back American Passenger Rail. We need to catch up, We have fallen behind.
Exactly, 90% of them are just "technology bad", "non-toxic masculinity bad", "womens rights bad" or some variety of racism/xenophobia. Focus on things that were ACTUALLY lost, not romanticisation of a past that never existed.
If you know who the content creator is, tell them to oppose the copyright strike if it's from MGM. This video was taken down immediately after uploading, however MGM didn't bother to reply to my counter-claim after I hit them with a few paragraphs of common sense.
It pains me that the Army Appropriations Act of 1916 wasn't permanent If it was, our country would've avoided losing its frequent and expansive passenger lines due to corporate mismanagement
After seeing this I have mixed feelings about Amtrak, how my town went from a dozen passenger trains to the regularly late Cardinal, which would be better called the night owl as it arrives at 11 and 3 am ish (east and west bound respectively)
Amtrak has three main problems: 1. It was an "out" for private rail companies to be allowed to throw away non-profitable rail services 2. It, itself, is required to turn a profit 3. It must lease trackage from other rail companies in most locations Initially, Amtrak was only meant to run intercity trains, and in most case that is all that it has. The private rail companies were mandated to keep commuter service, but as rail requirements continue to laxen, they were able to drop those services as well.
@@geekchris105 The leasing trackage from other companies is a huge problem because it means it's very difficult for Amtrak to get track upgraded. This can pretty much only be solved with nationalization.
Us in Canada got it super bad. Our passenger routes were privatized, and ever since then the service has gone downhill. On Vancouver Island, the rails will be ripped up because they pumped money into the highway system there. Service sucks on both intercity and commuter trains, and so many old stations have been torn down. I wish we all still had better passenger service.
And not a braindead way of making money either! This is what most modern capitalists don't understand. Poor public service does not equal greater profits, especially not in the long-term.
@@BritishTrainspotting They all clearly failed the "one biscuit now, or 2 later" test. But in all seriousness it is the inevitable end result of our chumocracy basically allowing you to fail upwards if you're friends with the right people. I don't think you can look at any business head or political figure in the UK and wholeheartedly believe that they are the result of meritocracy.
did you ever go on it and not get mugged assaulted or murdered, because thats how it was after years of little to no investment. the only reason why British rail had a golden period in the late 80s and 90s is due to more private sector involvement and running the cooperation for profit. do your research its not hard to see.
They're snuck in there! I try not to focus on steam since it isn't a favourite of mine, and its during a time when BR isn't all that relevant to the common person.
@@BritishitRailPosting Yeah but they were beautiful and its a time when that was the main way of transport so from that view it could be considered a golden age for railway
I believe BR's true golden age was at the height of the 80s. Steam-era british railways didn't have much in the way of competition, later era BR had to compete against personal motor vehicles, airlines, and coaches.@@Angelcynn-x9m
Honestly i feel this. We also had our trains privatized in germany and it has been downhill ever since. My grandpa told me how well the trains used to run and i thought he was joking, but he was absolutely right. We need them back in public hand.
Nice edit! Can I ask where you got the 465 footage from at 0:45 please, I’d like to use it for an upcoming video. If you can give me a link and/or credit I can use, that would be highly appreciated. ~ Daniel
Can I ask what’s the source for the “Intercity 125. It was Europe’s fastest regular rail service, and at last British Rail was starting to get some positive coverage on TV” clip please?
Bus delays, can't belive the bradford council was so crappy they never bothered renovating or building a new bus station. Now it is fucked for a year or more.
My channel has generally tried to avoid being political up until now, and "New Labour" has a decent share of the blame for allowing the privatised nonsense to continue- however the Tories' continued behaviour regarding public utilities shows that they're simply a no-vote when it comes to respecting and defending the public resources of this country.
@@BritishitRailPostingPlease continue with these montages and maybe show how a government can ruin an amazing railway system with neglect and making it an excuse to privatise. The Torie rewarded Avanti a 9 year contract and yet the Tories have the attitude to say "We don't want to take the train when its Avanti".
This video will, for now, stand as the most politically pointed one. I'm sure another politicky video will show itself once our elections are over.@@Mgameing123
Something really tickles me about appropriating an alt-right aesthetic to demand state investment in rail and reject right-wing narratives about immigration and foreign aid.
I find it so ironic that privatisers use "competition" as an argument. The railways have zero competition. They have a monopoly over their area by design. It's the same with water companies.
@@mysteriousstranger6857 you clearly didn’t experience what British rail was like for most of its life only the resurgence in the 90s as a result of for profit operation
@@fsstickman1 When you privatise an industry a temporary resurgence is inevitable due to an influx of new investors. However the industry gets severely harmed in the long term as profits are given back to those investors in the form of dividends without being put back into the company. This leads to higher ticket prices and worse quality of service.
@@mysteriousstranger6857that’s not what i said br had a resurgence in the 90s followed by a lot investment from the private sector which led to a much better service sure it’s still unreliable and expensive but a commuter from the 70s would give anything for the service we have today
it sseverely upsets me how this future of BR wa staken away from us and i want those respnsible for taking it away from us tried for it imo. bring back what made us britons safer and proud. safety,investment, a better rail network abnd service no prejudice on areas of operation no working for short time profit. bring back BR!
There are various videos used in this clip that I simply won't be able to trackdown by now- however all of them are available on RUclips, and can often be found by googling around the class numbers of the rolling stock you see
100%! Just make sure you link it as a reply to this comment so I can see it too! I don't use any other platforms, I love seeing where my content ends up!
Mean the trains we have now are not too bad the azuma especially but thats the only positive about the railway in this country. Look at spain europes biggest High speed network and a excellent commuter network.
@@choppership465 never had that and I have been on a lot of azumas. Actually one of the best journeys I have ever done was from york to london on 801215 like up there with like spains high speed trains
Pacers helped preserve BR branchlines, its just a shame that they were simply being preserved for privatised entities to take over. Whilst the Pacers should have died long before they did, that's not an issue that is on BR's doorstep, and they should be respected as the last-ditch effort that they were- without them we'd be in a far worse situation than we are now.
@@BritishitRailPosting For all of BR's upsides, they were still led by capitalist pigs who can just starve the rail industry if doing so makes oil barons and automotive cartels more money at the cost of the human race!
I'm not crying you are 🚇 Also, the InterCity 125's design was the basis for Australia's XPT, which still operates today after 40 years of service. My partner and I are going to travel on it to Katoomba from Sydney, despite everyone saying to "get a car".
Exactly, reject the shit private services, demand investment and safety and celebrate progress, this is what made old British transport.
@@thegdpwhytea439 'British Rail and the nationlisation shut down thousands of miles of rail track' Thats what happens when your so underfunded you need to save money.
@@chrisw_321 woops, looks like someone's shit-spouting comment got deleted 😌
@@chrisw_321 The lines were ripped up because Marples had stocks and investments in road construction and ripping up the rails would make number go up. Saving money was just the lie they sold to placate the general population.
@@chrisw_321 if only they could somehow rebuild those bits of track. I’d be so unbelievably happy.
@@ConfusedOxygen some bits have
My favorite little dark age edit.
I see why that is
@@Repulse_The_First certainly
I can totally agree
Nostalgia
@@thebritishempire8754 Io sono stato negli anni 40 e 50 a Londra , ma poi per problemi di salute sono ritornato in Italia .
Britain:
Island nation
Former empire
Monarchy
Former naval power
Japan:
Island nation
Former empire
Monarchy
Former naval power
How tf did japan go above and beyond in trains and became the envy of the world and britain’s train’s became a laughing stock
Both are fascist hellholes, but one is significantly more corrupt, with an upperclass who detests everyone and everything. When you own what you are policing and regulating, you aren't going to de very good job, it would hurt profits.
@@radfoxuk8113 and that is britain correct?Pardon me im not too knowledgable about this subject.
@@chieftainmk_11 Yeah. All our services, meaning i the aame form as military, like a duty to be done for the good of the society were sold off, privatised: air, rail, water, electricity, gas(?), telephones...
We tore up tracks to "small" communities in the 60's, Dr. Beeching, privatised the rail, "to make it more affordable and better furnished", and we still subsidise passenger rail, we pay taxes that cover some rail usage and still pay for tickets, all the money goes to faceless shareholders, rather than into the government, for public good.
If you steal a public good from the public it becomes neither public nor good.
Everyone calls our right wing party, the Conservative Party, the Tories for good reason, it means thief or bandit in old Middle Irish Gaelic. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tories_(British_political_party)
When Japan privatised their main lines it remained good due to the public's reliance on it, similar to the UK's Royal Mail, despite privatisation it's still essentially the same system, it's too essential to screw it up.
Shame about the undergound mail railways, they were cool, and didn't block narrow city roads with huge lorries.
@@radfoxuk8113 Japans main train company JR is a licensed monopoly by the japanese goverment but doesnt abuse its power of being a monopoly,Owning the property around its rails (Say theres an apartment next to train tracks its owned by JR now) and its massive revenue is a testament to the japanese honesty,culture and standards.
Conflict of interest. That's the difference
I love listening to this while building my model railway
Thats perfect. What era are you modelling?
@@thebritishempire8754 era 5 to 8 but I'm mainly focusing on BR green diesels and the pride of the fleet is my new APT
@@Reaper1770 that is very nice.
Sounds fun!
It may seem like BR weren't as good as they were made out to be, but the investment and innovation in BR's heyday (the 1970s) really is worlds ahead of the current private scene's commitment to running trains.
A country that practically built itself and the industrial revolution as a whole on its trains should not simply abandon them.
Was so bummed riding through the UK (I'm American) and realizing all the trains are privately operated.
On the American side (I'm American):
Reject Freight Rail Domiance.
Reject Auto & Airline Lobbying.
Reject Private Services.
Demand Safety, and Sustainability .
Nationalize Freight Rail.
Invest in Amtrak.
Invest in Electrification.
Retain Hope.
Build Back American Passenger Rail.
We need to catch up, We have fallen behind.
and also:
End Subsidies of The Interstate Highways.
End subsidies of the Airline Industry.
This is like the second one of these ive found that isn't like super political or facist. Nice video
What’s inherently wrong with fascism?
@@ns7353 dude.
Exactly, 90% of them are just "technology bad", "non-toxic masculinity bad", "womens rights bad" or some variety of racism/xenophobia.
Focus on things that were ACTUALLY lost, not romanticisation of a past that never existed.
@@ns7353 bro really asking what's wrong with extream authoritarianism and state violence
@@ns7353 brother..
The American one got taken down, but we have the same goals. The same wants. The same desires. To return to an age of progress.
If you know who the content creator is, tell them to oppose the copyright strike if it's from MGM. This video was taken down immediately after uploading, however MGM didn't bother to reply to my counter-claim after I hit them with a few paragraphs of common sense.
It pains me that the Army Appropriations Act of 1916 wasn't permanent
If it was, our country would've avoided losing its frequent and expansive passenger lines due to corporate mismanagement
After seeing this I have mixed feelings about Amtrak, how my town went from a dozen passenger trains to the regularly late Cardinal, which would be better called the night owl as it arrives at 11 and 3 am ish (east and west bound respectively)
Amtrak has three main problems:
1. It was an "out" for private rail companies to be allowed to throw away non-profitable rail services
2. It, itself, is required to turn a profit
3. It must lease trackage from other rail companies in most locations
Initially, Amtrak was only meant to run intercity trains, and in most case that is all that it has. The private rail companies were mandated to keep commuter service, but as rail requirements continue to laxen, they were able to drop those services as well.
Ngl, my favourite train journey was la to abq
@@geekchris105 The leasing trackage from other companies is a huge problem because it means it's very difficult for Amtrak to get track upgraded. This can pretty much only be solved with nationalization.
Oh so your public infrastructure is being privatized and therefore worsened too? Solidarity
one of the best edits out there
Reject Austerity
Reject Neoliberalism
Embrace robust railway infrastructure and public transportation
Istanbul mentality
im just going to say that i love learning about britians industrial ages rise and fall, as a foreigner its really interesting to learn about
We thank you alot for that. 🙏
Us in Canada got it super bad. Our passenger routes were privatized, and ever since then the service has gone downhill. On Vancouver Island, the rails will be ripped up because they pumped money into the highway system there. Service sucks on both intercity and commuter trains, and so many old stations have been torn down. I wish we all still had better passenger service.
That guys honesty about their motive to make money was really refreshing is this age of lies and soft speech.
That’s Chris Green from Network SouthEast.
And not a braindead way of making money either!
This is what most modern capitalists don't understand. Poor public service does not equal greater profits, especially not in the long-term.
@@BritishTrainspotting They all clearly failed the "one biscuit now, or 2 later" test. But in all seriousness it is the inevitable end result of our chumocracy basically allowing you to fail upwards if you're friends with the right people. I don't think you can look at any business head or political figure in the UK and wholeheartedly believe that they are the result of meritocracy.
@@Reddsoldier Absolutely!
It wasn't even about profit, it was about putting money back into the system. (Some people call that "socialist")
That Deltaic sense every time I watch it sends severs down my spin some how.
This channel is literally the rail enthusiast version of Balkan Gains
Solution: We need British rail again.
And British Rail Engineering Limited
@@davidty2006 Yes that! We need to bring back our British built trains for British purposes.
did you ever go on it and not get mugged assaulted or murdered, because thats how it was after years of little to no investment. the only reason why British rail had a golden period in the late 80s and 90s is due to more private sector involvement and running the cooperation for profit. do your research its not hard to see.
@@fsstickman1 nope
thats some based rail humor i didnt expect
We really had good trains. Imagine if they weren't privatised by now. Greedy government.
This is the best LDA edit ever.
Thank you Louise Haigh we need BR again 🙏🏻
Holy shit man. This is perfect, love ur edits mate. Keep up the great vids 🫡
Even though I was never there to see BR it's still got a place in my heart
Would have been a lot better with some Steam Strains aswell
They're snuck in there! I try not to focus on steam since it isn't a favourite of mine, and its during a time when BR isn't all that relevant to the common person.
@@BritishitRailPosting Yeah but they were beautiful and its a time when that was the main way of transport so from that view it could be considered a golden age for railway
I believe BR's true golden age was at the height of the 80s. Steam-era british railways didn't have much in the way of competition, later era BR had to compete against personal motor vehicles, airlines, and coaches.@@Angelcynn-x9m
@@BritishitRailPosting Fair Enough but i personally think Steam deserved a few clips but it was still a great edit
Honestly i feel this. We also had our trains privatized in germany and it has been downhill ever since. My grandpa told me how well the trains used to run and i thought he was joking, but he was absolutely right. We need them back in public hand.
wholeass year later, i find myself here again
back again, 6 months after that
you, my guy, give me hope for the future
I just saw my first intercity 125 today, and holy crap, it was much better than the class 333 that I saw 5 minutes before it
Except for the intercity 125 HST edit, this is the best edit I’ve ever seen. Mad respect.
That bus drift looks 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Greetings from the Netherlands where things are slightly more like the dream of this video, but could be more like this dream
Nice edit! Can I ask where you got the 465 footage from at 0:45 please, I’d like to use it for an upcoming video. If you can give me a link and/or credit I can use, that would be highly appreciated. ~ Daniel
Based and trainpilled
Got a link of that guy kissing the train?
ruclips.net/video/6xSbmBhFnQk/видео.html
When Trains looked good and they didnt break down all the time and when the trains were on time and the tickets were cheap.
Bring Back Trams, British Rail and Local Buses
Hits deep tbh
Can I ask what’s the source for the “Intercity 125. It was Europe’s fastest regular rail service, and at last British Rail was starting to get some positive coverage on TV” clip please?
ruclips.net/video/z3bu0UFzr_g/видео.html
It is from the BBC Four documentary "The Age of The Train"@cpasimportant
Honestly the first Little Dark Age I have seen that isn't cringe
'Luv me post-industrial ruined traintracks (very atmospheric), 'luv me Manchester Metrolink, nuff said.
great video
Love this edit, so true though. Bring back the old railways!
I didn't know I needed this.
1950s, we had the best railways in europe… no … the world… now… a shadow of its former size, its former abilities.
There used to be a tram a minute more or less.
This is gold
With all my heart: Yes!
Bus delays, can't belive the bradford council was so crappy they never bothered renovating or building a new bus station. Now it is fucked for a year or more.
Many councils are so skint that they're not even a year away from complete bankruptcy. Another Tory miracle.
@@BritishitRailPostinghalf of it is due to corruption no doubt in my mind
Reject Rural Isolation
Demand Safety
Defend the Venerable
Demand Investment
Retain Hope
Celebrate Progress
...
Vote Labour
My channel has generally tried to avoid being political up until now, and "New Labour" has a decent share of the blame for allowing the privatised nonsense to continue- however the Tories' continued behaviour regarding public utilities shows that they're simply a no-vote when it comes to respecting and defending the public resources of this country.
@@BritishitRailPostingPlease continue with these montages and maybe show how a government can ruin an amazing railway system with neglect and making it an excuse to privatise. The Torie rewarded Avanti a 9 year contract and yet the Tories have the attitude to say "We don't want to take the train when its Avanti".
This video will, for now, stand as the most politically pointed one. I'm sure another politicky video will show itself once our elections are over.@@Mgameing123
@@BritishitRailPosting Alright!
This is just too accurate
Ayyyy kieran! Nice pride pfp!
@@caramelldansen2204 Thanks :)
I just made a video similar to this but this one is a lot more well done!
Ha! The David Mitchell rant is one that's playing in my mind daily, good shit!
American here, your still better in terms of transportation anyways.
It still regressed. No excuse to go backwards.
Something really tickles me about appropriating an alt-right aesthetic to demand state investment in rail and reject right-wing narratives about immigration and foreign aid.
Wheres LNER, LMS, SR and GWR?
> Privatised organisations
They were the enemy.
@@BritishitRailPosting Sod off
@@BritishitRailPosting they were responisble for the golden age of the railways
British rail was the goat
Welp guess someone bet me to it to to go to TikTok
Make sure to link it here when it's done!
I find it so ironic that privatisers use "competition" as an argument. The railways have zero competition. They have a monopoly over their area by design. It's the same with water companies.
at lest we have clean functioning trains
@@fsstickman1 They could be a whole lot cleaner and a whole lot more functional.
@@mysteriousstranger6857 you clearly didn’t experience what British rail was like for most of its life only the resurgence in the 90s as a result of for profit operation
@@fsstickman1 When you privatise an industry a temporary resurgence is inevitable due to an influx of new investors. However the industry gets severely harmed in the long term as profits are given back to those investors in the form of dividends without being put back into the company. This leads to higher ticket prices and worse quality of service.
@@mysteriousstranger6857that’s not what i said br had a resurgence in the 90s followed by a lot investment from the private sector which led to a much better service sure it’s still unreliable and expensive but a commuter from the 70s would give anything for the service we have today
This isnt just true for BR, it isnt just true for England, its true EVERYWHERE
I wish I lived to see this.
it sseverely upsets me how this future of BR wa staken away from us and i want those respnsible for taking it away from us tried for it imo. bring back what made us britons safer and proud. safety,investment, a better rail network abnd service no prejudice on areas of operation no working for short time profit. bring back BR!
God bless John Major!
Where can i find the videos used for the background
There are various videos used in this clip that I simply won't be able to trackdown by now- however all of them are available on RUclips, and can often be found by googling around the class numbers of the rolling stock you see
Can I have permission to repost this and give you credit?
100%! Just make sure you link it as a reply to this comment so I can see it too! I don't use any other platforms, I love seeing where my content ends up!
Ok will do! Sorry for the late reply
ruclips.net/video/KNMbv6ZnmEg/видео.html
@@The_Midland_MainLine_Guy that's been blocked here in the UK :/
: /
All railways, tracks, trains and stations should be privatised like in Japan.
Deranged opinion.
based
0:38 why does it feel like gmbuses?
Derbyshire County Council m.ruclips.net/video/5MMD-QUeyms/видео.html
@@BritishitRailPostingNgl that’s actually quite funny lol
sorry for asking but is gmbuses a game?
You managed to make a Little Dark Age edit be based. Good job. We need more of this and less neo-fascist stuff
What is the name of the background song
It's in the title! MGMT - Little Dark Age
Mean the trains we have now are not too bad the azuma especially but thats the only positive about the railway in this country. Look at spain europes biggest High speed network and a excellent commuter network.
azuma is probably one of the worst trains in service right now
bloody thing shakes more than any other mainline train serving london
@@choppership465 never had that and I have been on a lot of azumas. Actually one of the best journeys I have ever done was from york to london on 801215 like up there with like spains high speed trains
Shits a banger
Reject Pacers
Pacers helped preserve BR branchlines, its just a shame that they were simply being preserved for privatised entities to take over. Whilst the Pacers should have died long before they did, that's not an issue that is on BR's doorstep, and they should be respected as the last-ditch effort that they were- without them we'd be in a far worse situation than we are now.
@@BritishitRailPosting For all of BR's upsides, they were still led by capitalist pigs who can just starve the rail industry if doing so makes oil barons and automotive cartels more money at the cost of the human race!
:'( missed😢
#NEEDOLDTRAINSBACK
Btw y’all wanna protest for old trains back?
HORSEPOWER FOR PUBLIC GOOD
beautiful
make money make money out of that with profit really dark. No transportation was successful by thinking only profit.
I believe...
no bullshit here, just facts
Blame the tories I say
Based
"Reject Southern Dominance" should be Reject South-EAST Dominance. I live in the South-West and its treated almost as bad as the north.
I'm not crying you are 🚇
Also, the InterCity 125's design was the basis for Australia's XPT, which still operates today after 40 years of service. My partner and I are going to travel on it to Katoomba from Sydney, despite everyone saying to "get a car".
Hey didn't they just ask British Rail for a train design?