Anyone that trash talks the 305 doesn’t understand that not all 305 engines were created equal. GM actually produced 2 performance 305 versions, the L69 and LB9. The later version LB9 TPI that came with the manual 5-speed tranny got a more radical .430 cam and was factory rated at 230hp which was 5hp more than Ford’s 5.0 liter. The 305 when properly built makes for a great little well balance “square” engine, which means it has equal bore and stroke. It has a smaller bore compared to Ford’s 302 but it has a longer stroke than the 302. Back in 1989 Motorweek tested a brand new ‘89 low optioned Camaro 1LE stripper with the 230hp 5.0 liter 305 TPI and squeezed a 13.9 out of it.
I had L69 in my 1984 Pontiac trans am automatic It was rated at 190 hp. It ran strong for being all stock. It had the off set hood bulge with real cold air induction . It said “ 5 litre HO “ on the hood bulge. Pretty cool. This was back in 1985. I raced a friends 1985 Iroc Z28 with the TPI 305 automatic. We raced from a dig and a roll several times. I pulled him a car length every time. He was pissed. My car only had 8k on it and his was brand new. I think the TPI engine was rated at 215 hp in 1985. I did ok against the 84 and 85 Mustang GTs . Won some and lost some but all those races were very close. Yea that little L69 305 ran strong.
The L31 was actually much closer to the LT1 engine with it's similar casting Vortec heads, aside from optispark and reverse flow cooling. The LB9 was essentially the 245hp L98 with less bore and stroke.
@@nedaCFilmsFbody LT1 also had aluminum heads, more compression which bumped up the power to 275 then 285 in 1996/97. The 285 hp was from GM going to dual cats.
I always defend the 305. Not everything has to have 500hp. Even if someone has a 383 stroker, you could ask that guy “well why didn’t you get a 454?” and the 454 guy “why didn’t you get a 540?” Etc etc. There’s always gonna be someone faster than you, so just have fun. Looks like you’re doing exactly that sir 😎
I mean the gas mileage is trash got a old truck that doesn’t run no more aka project 😭😭😭 and the mileage when running was horrible worse than my dads 2010 11 2500 gas truck and it’s a 2500 more power 😂 and it got better gas mileage and it’s got like 250k miles and mine nr got 90k got it when it had 40k 😅
@@martaolvera5190fuel Mileage is trash in what? It would be trash with a 350 or anything else if it's not built, geared or tuned properly. Most people don't plan properly when building an engine. It can get a lot more detailed than just aftermarket heads, cam and pistons. To add insult to injury sbc's from 70's through 90's were built around emissions that they were still trying to figure out. A 5.3 is basically a modern version of a stroked 305 with a stroke length literally between a 350 and 400 sbc.
I have a built "H" 305 (original motor) in my '86 GMC pickup ... From the bottom up : polished crank , matched rods , bored .060 over with flat tops for 9.75:1 , Elgin E-922-P cam (same specs as Summit 1103) , 3 angle valve job , Edelbrock Performer EPS port matched to the 416 heads . Got an Edelbrock 1405 on top and long tube headers . Bolted to a moderately built 700R4 with 3.42's and an Eaton style locker coming soon . With the stock 2.73's it will break the back end loose if I stomp it from a dead stop . I'm not sure how many ponies are under the hood now , but it's a whole lot more than the stock 160 with all the smog gear . I'm guessing somewhere around 250 or so but I don't know and really don't care . This is the kind of truck I lusted after when I was a teen in the 60's ...
Got one in my 82 z-28 ran like a dog with cross fire, two about 1 an1/4 inch throttle bodies, they look that small anyway, put a stealth intake and a 500 cfm carter AFB on it and was really impressed, however the 200 trans hated it with a passion and promptly blew up, put a 700r4 in and was again impressed. Lower low gear and a higher high gear, with a 373 rear it was really impressive. Took the Throttle body intake, which is really a fantastic looking intake, I believe it is a Smokey Unick from the 70's, anyway I milled a intake cover and made it for a pair of 500 cfm Carters with the the blank one in front, dying to really try it. I've had those carters for the 2 x 4 barrels for nearly 35 years brand new. It looks fantastic.
I had a 30 over 305 with roller cam and ported heads in a 89 Camaro was very dependable and ran purdy good. Everyone who road in it thought it was a 350. Now I have a cammed and heads 4.8 in my Silverado it runs good also
@@pinkysgarage4517No need. Everyone knows you can get up to around 450 HP out of a 305. You just have to know what you're doing. Bore out the cylinders, lumpy cam, 800+ cfm 4 bbl carb, pro headers, short exhaust pipes, active ram air or a shaker hood, high test fuel, all electric accessories and a carb spacer.
My buddy has and 80 Camaro with a 305 in it with a cam and a 200 shot of nitrous on a tire. He pisses off a lot of people on the street lol. Cool build bud
Same here. I have a 88 box with a 305 with on 81k miles I’m going to enjoy this engine for the next 2-4 years while I save up for a LS engine with all the bells and whistle😎✊🏾
Geez that thing is tired. That blow by will give you an awesome 💫 headache in a half hour. 😂 Its almost a shame its a 106° lsa cam. As fat as that things running, it's just begging for a shot of giggle gas! Those rings will come back around then.
Trust me if youre going to build a sbc amaller than a 327 283 is the way to go.. picked mine up with power packs complete with a saginaw 3 speed for $100
Hey I just bought a .480 camshaft for my 305 engine. Will it work going in the 305? I’ve found that the max valve lift should be .480. Can someone tell me what I should do to the heads? Should I change my crankshaft?
There is no need to mess with the crankshaft. You’ll want new valvesprings. Main issue you’ll run into is the valvespring retainers hitting the guide seals with stock springs.
gawwww dammmmm thats sounds amazing im saving up about 4k to rebuild my 83 camaro with a 305 V8 also planning. Also painting, upgrading suspensions, handling. Basically as much as I can. what would you recommend?
I’m not as familiar with third gen setups but that all sounds like a good plan. I’d check the casting numbers on your heads and see what they are. 416s are the best heads that came in the 80s cars. If not find some Vortec 305 heads. They’ll bump the power up some.
what was your vacuum numbers with this cam if you don't mind me asking? i am playing hell with vacuum for my brakes right now with a lunati vodoo cam, they said it would have plenty of vacuum when i bought it but only getting between 8-10 inches of vac which isnt enough for more than 1 press of the brakes
I don’t remember my vacuum with this engine but it was plenty enough for power brakes. I’ve run a much bigger XR282HR-10 282/288 cam that was still good with power brakes. What voodoo cam is it?
@@CarGuyV8 224/234 Duration at .050". 112 Degree Lobe Separation Angle. 0.465"/0.488" but cam card said 109 degree lobe sep, and real numbers was .465/.493
@@CarGuyV8 i pulled the jegs air gap style intake and put a new eddy rpm air gap on thinking maybe i had a internal vac leak with zero difference,when i had the zz4 cam in it with 110 lsa i was running between 16-19 inches of vac
Main problem here is motor is running on 7 cylinders , u can clearly hear , get that 8th cylinder working full time and it will make a world of difference , might fix yur blow-by too ! blow-by is another sign yur missing on a hole ...
What else would I need with the cam? I have a 85 el camino with 305. I found a 1785 kit with matching lifters for 250 on summit. I want the same chop but sadly live in cali
@@CarGuyV8 I once thought about selling mine, then I remembered that feeling when I watched my last camaro drive off when it sold for half i had in it!!
@@erscustoms911 I did hate seeing it get trailered off, especially because they drove 3 hours to get it. I was hoping a friend close by would buy it so I could see the progress of it, but oh well.
Way to much cam for that engine!! A small RV cam would have done so much better! And while you were at it, should have grabbed a set of $100 rings and a dingle ball hone, then it would have at least tried to play the roll!
No one rips on people for building Ford 302s, but for some reason 305s are seen as dogs. For street, and even street/strip motors, a 305 is as good as a 302, the “small” bore doesn’t really start to make itself a problem until you’re into serious numbers.
@@pr3m3um93 Which part of “for street, and even street/strip” are you struggling to comprehend? I didn’t say anything about building either motor “as much as you can”. I even pointed out that the small bore becomes a problem when you’re into serious numbers. So you’re not disagreeing with me at all, you’re just misunderstanding what I wrote. And don’t forget that you’ll split the 302 block over 500hp.
The Chevy 305 has a small bore and the large valve heads will not work because the intake valve would hit the cylinder wall. The Ford 302 has a bigger bore and can handle big valve heads. I had a L-69 305 and loved it.
@@markg7030 Whilst that’s true, with good heads e.g Trick Flow Super23, a 305 can still get close to 500hp with the right cam. For most people doing a simple heads/cam/intake upgrade, they’re not getting close to reaching the limit of those valve sizes with either a 302 or a 305.
@@brettc1827 lol...Chevrolet made a few beastly 302s for Z28s over 50 years ago. Ford made millions of the 4" bore 3" stroke critters.....that is why they got a following. Well, that and you can cobble one together with parts that span 4 decades.
305 go for ever....good reliable motor....keep doing what you doing ...good information.....I cant believe some guys feelings hurt over this LMFAO😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@CarGuyV8 😂😅🤣🤣🤣😅😂just got real.. OMG... I am a car guy, I have Camaro ss, rx7, 1995 mustang gt..... love cars and bikes. I respect what people like you do. Had a 1984 camaro with 305, beat my roomates montecarlo ss all day and his 350😂😅🤣🤣🤣. 305 good motor... respect my brother😬😬😬🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🏼❤️
@@ramoncruz9910 That’s a true car guy. Liking it all! People gravitate towards a brand they’re familiar with and that’s fine. But fanboys annoy the shit out of me
@@thomaslemon3971 I agree brother I have a 210 camaro ss a 1995 mustang gt 1985 mazda rx7.....I am a car guy. Had a 1983 camaro with 305 5 speed trans, always left my roomate and his montecarlo ss 350 on the dust... never understood, but again I love cars and admire projects like the one you guys have. Keep the good work up and be bless. 🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️❤️👍👍👍🙏🏼🙏🏼
I'll be honest with ya, I've never had a slouchy 305. I've had carbureted, Gen. II late 90s vortecs, a TPI H.O. version in a Firebird, and even a dinky ol 'marine' 305 that's remanned and cammed-up (that I pulled out of a cabin cruiser boat for practically free and swapped it into my slammed and Cragar'd square body lol). I was actually surprised someone has actually took the time and spent the money to cam it and whatnot lol.. but I love it bc it runs like a raped ape! Anyways, I don't know why people put down 305s.. All the ones I've had have been nothing but great little screamin' demons. 🤷
@@ouulou6031 I wouldn’t say that fun is the right word if it’s stock form. Put some headers, better mufflers, intake, steeper gears, and I guarantee it’ll surprise you.
Trolls yapping once again...the guy is playing with a cheapo beater. Just to show you dont have to make huge power to have fun with a car Never said it was some crazy fast pro stocker post up your 305 build before you talk smack from a keyboard.
I put a 280 comp cam in an old 2 barrel 305. Bought a nice edelbrock performer rpm intake and it ran damn good, slow, but it ran damn good for what it was. I can't knock them, i had a blast with it. I spent money on bigger hooker super comp headers and 3 inch exhaust with dynomax race bullet mufflers, had a 2800 stall and 3.73 gears. Everyone thought i put a different engine in it, nope still a 305. I had friends with 5.0 mustangs that had beat me before scared to run me. After adding the gears, exhaust and comverter i did beat a few of them but not by much. I had a blast with that little 305. The lauch out of the hole was enough they could catch me but couldn't pass me. I had too much 305 powaaaa!!!
I have an '87 Monte Carlo SS I raced in NHRA Stock Eliminator. This is a "stock" L69 rated by Chevrolet at 180 hp. the NHRA corrected horsepower using the S/SS factor is 248 which is dead on wat I got on Carlisle Racings dyno. The '87 L69 used 081 centerbolt heads which are far better than the earlier 416 castings. With nothing more than a multi angle valve job (stock ports), reworked quadrajet carb, .060 bore with flat top pistons (11:1 static compression), and custom ground Crane solid liter cam (with stock lift .403 intake / .415 exhaust) my L69 is making 419 horsepower at 6400 rpm. The NHRA stock classes are bracket racing races and I cant even begin to list all the big blocks and small blocks Ive put on the trailer. My car runs a consistent 11.60s @ 118 mph with an almost stock 305. The only cars I lose to are the K Stock Mopars running 383s. Giving me a tree as a head start only results in my apponant going home because at half track Im already in 4th gear and once my converter is locked my mph keeps climbing. Those who say a 305 is a boat anchor I beg to differ and I have a whole lot of trophys to prove it.
@@CarGuyV8 it took years of racing and hours and hours on a flow bench to find 2 stock heads that outflowed the other 081 heads I was testing. I went through a pile of 14057053 stock aluminum intake manifolds and found one from a 1978 L82 Corvette that actually outflowed a Weiand Action Plus and Edelbrock Performer so I used that manifold. NHRA rules are the stock intake and carb / fuel injection must be used and the ports / combustion chamber CAN NOT be modified and the valve sizes CAN NOT be changed. The 081 centerbolt heads can easily flow 197 cfm @.400 lift if you machine the valve seat correctly and cut the back side of the intake valves. The cam is a custom ground Crane with 252 duration intake / 258 duration exhaust with a 4/7 swap. The 11:1 compression and the cam is where the horsepower is coming from, that and finding parts that are as close to perfect as I could find. Im using 29 x 9 slicks with a 4.88 gear and 4000 stall ATI lock up converter and wheelie bars to keep the front end on the ground. Its a consistent 11.60s car at night, 11.70s in the heat during the day.
I kmow a guy who had a late you 60s chevy pick up with a 305 that had been mildly built that on a short run very few people who ever run him could beat him. Several people lost to him. But he would only bet on a short distance.
My nephew had a 1988 Firebird Formula with the LB9 TPI 305, 5 speed stick... great running car. It scooted pretty good bone stock and he had plans on 4.10 gears, exhaust etc but he sold it for really good money
Isky 256 mega cam long tunes 600, decent dual plane it will be plenty of fun make good torque & pass smog If you got a lil gear or a 24-2500 converter the 264 works great also No reason anyone wont think you dont have a healthy 350
I currently have a 1982 Z28 Camaro that’s getting a brand new 305 in it that’s being cammed and all that stuff and it’s not Nooo budget build so far it’s costs me $8,500 bucks it’s about $2,000 more than I wanted to spend but it’s getting the best of everything it needs
i have a 78 type LT with a 305 sbc. i have a mild cam, 4 barrel quadrajet, 4 plane intake manifold, and edelbrock air intake on it. havent really driven it since its had all that stuff on it cuz ive been away at school but cant wait to drive it this summer. its still got stock exhaust whihc is really suffocating it at the moment so at the very least i wanna replace the muffler with a flowmaster and maybe even remove the cat. (it aint passing DEQ anyway lol).
Nice.. go .30 over, flat top pistons, 485/495 lift Howard roller cam trick flow heads a good intake and a 750 holly. Then you will have a very nice 305. It'll shit and git.
I LOVE IT!! I have an '87 Chevy R10, long-bed, regular cab, 2wd with a TBI 305 in it. I really want to build up the 305 for a mild mannered, streetable cruiser that has a little more omph and bark than the current anemic puppy in it. I'm not looking for a track monster, 1/4 mile time machine, or a neck-breaking tire burner. I just want it to scoot when needed and keep the truck as all original as possible at the same time. 325-350 HP would make me more than happy with it.
I have a Chevy 305 from a 1983 C10 on my 1958 international pickup truck. It has plenty of power and still retains a classic look and sound. Previous owners changed the intake manifold, added new headers and electrical fan but kept the old Rochester quadraject carburator that I overhauled. I am adding power steering and disk brakes to it all GM
i like low budget builds, not the TV so called low budget builds with 6k for heads, i love it brother 305 was a good choice back in the day they was good runners had them in full sized trucks and the muscle cars they were good, and going back a few more years they had the 307 it was also a good little v8, 307 had about 50 hp on the 305, my dad had Oldsmobile with a 307 it was strong and would move going down the road
@@CarGuyV8 ok thank you.. Im thinking about a cam I have only built stock engines I'm just getting in to the drag racing never done any high performance stuff.. everyone I know said I have to do push rods too thank u
@@MarcWalker-v2s This cam is pretty mild. As long as your pushrods aren’t bent and are in decent shape reusing them won’t be an issue unless you’re changing cylinder heads too. I will point out that reused pushrods don’t always spin with the new lifter. That won’t cause any issues other than mentally not knowing if the lifter is spinning correctly.
Anyone that trash talks the 305 doesn’t understand that not all 305 engines were created equal. GM actually produced 2 performance 305 versions, the L69 and LB9. The later version LB9 TPI that came with the manual 5-speed tranny got a more radical .430 cam and was factory rated at 230hp which was 5hp more than Ford’s 5.0 liter.
The 305 when properly built makes for a great little well balance “square” engine, which means it has equal bore and stroke. It has a smaller bore compared to Ford’s 302 but it has a longer stroke than the 302. Back in 1989 Motorweek tested a brand new ‘89 low optioned Camaro 1LE stripper with the 230hp 5.0 liter 305 TPI and squeezed a 13.9 out of it.
I had L69 in my 1984 Pontiac trans am automatic It was rated at 190 hp. It ran strong for being all stock. It had the off set hood bulge with real cold air induction . It said “ 5 litre HO “ on the hood bulge.
Pretty cool.
This was back in 1985. I raced a friends 1985 Iroc Z28 with the TPI 305 automatic. We raced from a dig and a roll several times. I pulled him a car length every time. He was pissed.
My car only had 8k on it and his was brand new.
I think the TPI engine was rated at 215 hp in 1985.
I did ok against the 84 and 85 Mustang GTs . Won some and lost some but all those races were very close. Yea that little L69 305 ran strong.
305 very good engine😬❤️🇺🇸🙏🏼👍
I think the LB9 was essentially, the 305 version of the 275HP LT1 350 from the early/mid 90's.
The L31 was actually much closer to the LT1 engine with it's similar casting Vortec heads, aside from optispark and reverse flow cooling. The LB9 was essentially the 245hp L98 with less bore and stroke.
@@nedaCFilmsFbody LT1 also had aluminum heads, more compression which bumped up the power to 275 then 285 in 1996/97. The 285 hp was from GM going to dual cats.
I always defend the 305. Not everything has to have 500hp. Even if someone has a 383 stroker, you could ask that guy “well why didn’t you get a 454?” and the 454 guy “why didn’t you get a 540?” Etc etc. There’s always gonna be someone faster than you, so just have fun. Looks like you’re doing exactly that sir 😎
Not hard to get 500hp out of a 305!
Most of the people saying that shit have never owned or driven anything with more than 300hp 😂
I mean the gas mileage is trash got a old truck that doesn’t run no more aka project 😭😭😭 and the mileage when running was horrible worse than my dads 2010 11 2500 gas truck and it’s a 2500 more power 😂 and it got better gas mileage and it’s got like 250k miles and mine nr got 90k got it when it had 40k 😅
@@martaolvera5190fuel Mileage is trash in what? It would be trash with a 350 or anything else if it's not built, geared or tuned properly. Most people don't plan properly when building an engine. It can get a lot more detailed than just aftermarket heads, cam and pistons. To add insult to injury sbc's from 70's through 90's were built around emissions that they were still trying to figure out. A 5.3 is basically a modern version of a stroked 305 with a stroke length literally between a 350 and 400 sbc.
@@martaolvera5190why did you buy an old car wanting milage
The 305 and 307 Chevrolet engines suffer from the stigma as the Mopar 318.
All excellent engines. A true hotrodder can make them really surprise you 👍
Cool build. Having fun on the cheep. Runs good. Dial in the carb and even run better. Keep us updated on the build!
Thanks brother for this 305 tribute build!! 305's can be a blast!!! Building my 82 z28 305 now
I have a built "H" 305 (original motor) in my '86 GMC pickup ... From the bottom up : polished crank , matched rods , bored .060 over with flat tops for 9.75:1 , Elgin E-922-P cam (same specs as Summit 1103) , 3 angle valve job , Edelbrock Performer EPS port matched to the 416 heads . Got an Edelbrock 1405 on top and long tube headers . Bolted to a moderately built 700R4 with 3.42's and an Eaton style locker coming soon . With the stock 2.73's it will break the back end loose if I stomp it from a dead stop . I'm not sure how many ponies are under the hood now , but it's a whole lot more than the stock 160 with all the smog gear . I'm guessing somewhere around 250 or so but I don't know and really don't care . This is the kind of truck I lusted after when I was a teen in the 60's ...
Sounds like a good setup. Thanks for watching.
Love it. The 305 is a stand up motor. Had one in my 84 Z28 that thing didn't miss a beat.
The L69 H.O engines ran strong.
Loved the H.O. I have a dual snorkel H.O. air cleaner with ducts I'm going to use in the future.
Got one in my 82 z-28 ran like a dog with cross fire, two about 1 an1/4 inch throttle bodies, they look that small anyway, put a stealth intake and a 500 cfm carter AFB on it and was really impressed, however the 200 trans hated it with a passion and promptly blew up, put a 700r4 in and was again impressed. Lower low gear and a higher high gear, with a 373 rear it was really impressive. Took the Throttle body intake, which is really a fantastic looking intake, I believe it is a Smokey Unick from the 70's, anyway I milled a intake cover and made it for a pair of 500 cfm Carters with the the blank one in front, dying to really try it. I've had those carters for the 2 x 4 barrels for nearly 35 years brand new. It looks fantastic.
I had a 30 over 305 with roller cam and ported heads in a 89 Camaro was very dependable and ran purdy good. Everyone who road in it thought it was a 350. Now I have a cammed and heads 4.8 in my Silverado it runs good also
I have a built 305 in my 1979 shirt bed .. made 405hp and I love it .. not as fast as my AWD Honda but it still fun as hell .
How did you squeeze 400 horse out of it? I have a 305 on an engine stand that needs rebuilt and would love to build it just don’t know where to start.
Can we see the dyno sheet please??
@@pinkysgarage4517No need. Everyone knows you can get up to around 450 HP out of a 305. You just have to know what you're doing. Bore out the cylinders, lumpy cam, 800+ cfm 4 bbl carb, pro headers, short exhaust pipes, active ram air or a shaker hood, high test fuel, all electric accessories and a carb spacer.
@@asmongoldsmouth9839 and a 150 shot of nitrous...
@@asmongoldsmouth9839800 + CFM? That's a bit much for a little 305 don't you think?
My buddy has and 80 Camaro with a 305 in it with a cam and a 200 shot of nitrous on a tire. He pisses off a lot of people on the street lol. Cool build bud
I have a 305 tbi in my 91 caprice and that engine rips for what it is. Having fun with it until the LS swap
Same here. I have a 88 box with a 305 with on 81k miles I’m going to enjoy this engine for the next 2-4 years while I save up for a LS engine with all the bells and whistle😎✊🏾
@@Bigchevydawg4same I wanted to LS my box until I started cleaning the old 305 up lol
I'm a mopar guy, but this 305 sounds badass
Mopar 🤝 GM
She sounds pretty good actually, it's got a nice little loup to it.. Chevy4life 👊
Thanks for watching
Geez that thing is tired. That blow by will give you an awesome 💫 headache in a half hour. 😂 Its almost a shame its a 106° lsa cam. As fat as that things running, it's just begging for a shot of giggle gas! Those rings will come back around then.
Awesome. I love 305s.
"Yeah, don't worry bout it" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯
I remember I bought a 78 el Camino, and it had a 305 out of a 79 nova. Once I built it, she could turn 9k. Nobody believed it was a 305...
lol...are you your tach setting was right?🤣
@4eyefoxbodyfanclub625 yep, and I had friends install their tachs as well because, like I said, they didn't believe it.
Trust me if youre going to build a sbc amaller than a 327 283 is the way to go.. picked mine up with power packs complete with a saginaw 3 speed for $100
Would have been awesome in my first car which was a 1981 Caprice Classic - it came with a 3.8 V6 and about 120 HP!
305s just cost to much to mod when a junkyard 350 cost nothing and is better but that's gms fault
Im building a 305 currently. 92 roller block, vortec heads, .540 lift cam stock bottom end (block was good.)
Hey I just bought a .480 camshaft for my 305 engine. Will it work going in the 305? I’ve found that the max valve lift should be .480. Can someone tell me what I should do to the heads? Should I change my crankshaft?
There is no need to mess with the crankshaft. You’ll want new valvesprings. Main issue you’ll run into is the valvespring retainers hitting the guide seals with stock springs.
that "blowby" is probably just too much gas.
No cyl 1 was worn out from a flat exhaust lobe from the old cam. A lot of the compression and combustion went past the rings.
Just bought that same csm for my 86 Z28. Hope it's still running good for ya
gawwww dammmmm thats sounds amazing
im saving up about 4k to rebuild my 83 camaro with a 305 V8 also planning. Also painting, upgrading suspensions, handling. Basically as much as I can.
what would you recommend?
I’m not as familiar with third gen setups but that all sounds like a good plan. I’d check the casting numbers on your heads and see what they are. 416s are the best heads that came in the 80s cars. If not find some Vortec 305 heads. They’ll bump the power up some.
625cfm is actually about right for the 305.
That's a cool little motor!
what was your vacuum numbers with this cam if you don't mind me asking? i am playing hell with vacuum for my brakes right now with a lunati vodoo cam, they said it would have plenty of vacuum when i bought it but only getting between 8-10 inches of vac which isnt enough for more than 1 press of the brakes
I don’t remember my vacuum with this engine but it was plenty enough for power brakes. I’ve run a much bigger XR282HR-10 282/288 cam that was still good with power brakes. What voodoo cam is it?
@@CarGuyV8 224/234 Duration at .050". 112 Degree Lobe Separation Angle. 0.465"/0.488" but cam card said 109 degree lobe sep, and real numbers was .465/.493
@@CarGuyV8 i pulled the jegs air gap style intake and put a new eddy rpm air gap on thinking maybe i had a internal vac leak with zero difference,when i had the zz4 cam in it with 110 lsa i was running between 16-19 inches of vac
you can see mine on my page its i think the 1st video titled like 383 in and running or something like that lol
Hey man, it would be amazing if you could provide the links for the stuff you got on the motor that you had to buy
Cam and lifters - www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-k00172
Headers - www.summitracing.com/parts/HED-65104
What exactly do I need to make my 305 the same. What size cam and all ?
I gave all the engine specs at the start of the video. Other than that it had 4.56 gears and a B&M 3,000 stall.
Main problem here is motor is running on 7 cylinders , u can clearly hear , get that 8th cylinder working full time and it will make a world of difference , might fix yur blow-by too ! blow-by is another sign yur missing on a hole ...
kuL. What should i am do to a 350?
Sounds sweet. What’s your set up?
4.56s. 3000 stall
What else would I need with the cam? I have a 85 el camino with 305. I found a 1785 kit with matching lifters for 250 on summit. I want the same chop but sadly live in cali
Ideally valvesprings, freer exhaust, better intake, gears or small stall.
Cll crower Or Isky tell them you are in Ca.
You cant have a thumping cam and pass...TBI doesnt work good with overlap. Qjet easier
Doesn't look like a demon carburetor to me. Looks more like the stock 305 quadrajunk
What transmission an rear end you using
TH400 & Ford 9 inch
what are the wheels called
They’re just 15x10 D hole wheels with fake beadlocks. They’re no longer made as far as I know.
What cam you got in her
Summit 1785
Miss it yet 😂
@@erscustoms911 You know, I miss having a 2nd gen, but I don’t miss *that* 2nd gen 😂
@@CarGuyV8 I once thought about selling mine, then I remembered that feeling when I watched my last camaro drive off when it sold for half i had in it!!
@@erscustoms911 I did hate seeing it get trailered off, especially because they drove 3 hours to get it. I was hoping a friend close by would buy it so I could see the progress of it, but oh well.
Did you use factory converter?
B&M 3000 stall
@@CarGuyV8 does the cam have a line for a mechanical pump?
@@MidloCars yes it does
Same rockers and springs ?
Yes stock valvetrain
What cam?
Summit 1785
Sweet ❤
305 wasn’t a bad engine
It just wasn’t a 350
This thing is bad 😂to the bone
Way to much cam for that engine!! A small RV cam would have done so much better! And while you were at it, should have grabbed a set of $100 rings and a dingle ball hone, then it would have at least tried to play the roll!
Bottom end isn't gonna last long
LQ4 swap it
Put a 150 shot on it…
No one rips on people for building Ford 302s, but for some reason 305s are seen as dogs. For street, and even street/strip motors, a 305 is as good as a 302, the “small” bore doesn’t really start to make itself a problem until you’re into serious numbers.
What about the 307?
I would for sure have to disagree you build a 305 as much as you can and you build a 302 as much as you can and who's going to win?
@@pr3m3um93 Which part of “for street, and even street/strip” are you struggling to comprehend? I didn’t say anything about building either motor “as much as you can”. I even pointed out that the small bore becomes a problem when you’re into serious numbers. So you’re not disagreeing with me at all, you’re just misunderstanding what I wrote. And don’t forget that you’ll split the 302 block over 500hp.
The Chevy 305 has a small bore and the large valve heads will not work because the intake valve would hit the cylinder wall. The Ford 302 has a bigger bore and can handle big valve heads. I had a L-69 305 and loved it.
@@markg7030 Whilst that’s true, with good heads e.g Trick Flow Super23, a 305 can still get close to 500hp with the right cam. For most people doing a simple heads/cam/intake upgrade, they’re not getting close to reaching the limit of those valve sizes with either a 302 or a 305.
Funny, people love the Ford 5.0, (302 ci) but hate on the 305
I said the same thing and got ripped apart.
@@brettc1827 lol...Chevrolet made a few beastly 302s for Z28s over 50 years ago. Ford made millions of the 4" bore 3" stroke critters.....that is why they got a following. Well, that and you can cobble one together with parts that span 4 decades.
I used to be people lol
305 go for ever....good reliable motor....keep doing what you doing ...good information.....I cant believe some guys feelings hurt over this LMFAO😂😂😂😂😂😂
I know right. I even had one guy block me on Facebook because I put foxbody seats in the car lol. They’re comfortable!
@@CarGuyV8 😂😅🤣🤣🤣😅😂just got real.. OMG... I am a car guy, I have Camaro ss, rx7, 1995 mustang gt..... love cars and bikes. I respect what people like you do. Had a 1984 camaro with 305, beat my roomates montecarlo ss all day and his 350😂😅🤣🤣🤣. 305 good motor... respect my brother😬😬😬🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🏼❤️
@@ramoncruz9910 That’s a true car guy. Liking it all! People gravitate towards a brand they’re familiar with and that’s fine. But fanboys annoy the shit out of me
@@thomaslemon3971 I agree brother I have a 210 camaro ss a 1995 mustang gt 1985 mazda rx7.....I am a car guy. Had a 1983 camaro with 305 5 speed trans, always left my roomate and his montecarlo ss 350 on the dust... never understood, but again I love cars and admire projects like the one you guys have. Keep the good work up and be bless. 🇺🇸🇺🇸❤️❤️👍👍👍🙏🏼🙏🏼
Sounds good man. Not too obnoxious, just the right tone and volume 🔥
I'll be honest with ya, I've never had a slouchy 305. I've had carbureted, Gen. II late 90s vortecs, a TPI H.O. version in a Firebird, and even a dinky ol 'marine' 305 that's remanned and cammed-up (that I pulled out of a cabin cruiser boat for practically free and swapped it into my slammed and Cragar'd square body lol). I was actually surprised someone has actually took the time and spent the money to cam it and whatnot lol.. but I love it bc it runs like a raped ape!
Anyways, I don't know why people put down 305s.. All the ones I've had have been nothing but great little screamin' demons. 🤷
They’re fun little engines that can be gotten for cheap. Thanks for watching!
@@CarGuyV8you think it’ll still be fun if it’s in a caprice
@@ouulou6031 I wouldn’t say that fun is the right word if it’s stock form. Put some headers, better mufflers, intake, steeper gears, and I guarantee it’ll surprise you.
@@CarGuyV8 yessir!
@@ouulou6031 I wholeheartedly agree with CarGuy on this one
Trolls yapping once again...the guy is playing with a cheapo beater. Just to show you dont have to make huge power to have fun with a car
Never said it was some crazy fast pro stocker
post up your 305 build before you talk smack from a keyboard.
Careful man, or else they’re going to bring out their Forza cars.
It's the last of the V8's! Said in Mad Max
I put a 280 comp cam in an old 2 barrel 305. Bought a nice edelbrock performer rpm intake and it ran damn good, slow, but it ran damn good for what it was. I can't knock them, i had a blast with it. I spent money on bigger hooker super comp headers and 3 inch exhaust with dynomax race bullet mufflers, had a 2800 stall and 3.73 gears. Everyone thought i put a different engine in it, nope still a 305. I had friends with 5.0 mustangs that had beat me before scared to run me. After adding the gears, exhaust and comverter i did beat a few of them but not by much. I had a blast with that little 305. The lauch out of the hole was enough they could catch me but couldn't pass me. I had too much 305 powaaaa!!!
Sounds like a runner! Thanks for sharing
Anything can pull with low gears
305s with a qjet were very impressive engines.
I have an '87 Monte Carlo SS I raced in NHRA Stock Eliminator. This is a "stock" L69 rated by Chevrolet at 180 hp. the NHRA corrected horsepower using the S/SS factor is 248 which is dead on wat I got on Carlisle Racings dyno. The '87 L69 used 081 centerbolt heads which are far better than the earlier 416 castings. With nothing more than a multi angle valve job (stock ports), reworked quadrajet carb, .060 bore with flat top pistons (11:1 static compression), and custom ground Crane solid liter cam (with stock lift .403 intake / .415 exhaust) my L69 is making 419 horsepower at 6400 rpm. The NHRA stock classes are bracket racing races and I cant even begin to list all the big blocks and small blocks Ive put on the trailer. My car runs a consistent 11.60s @ 118 mph with an almost stock 305. The only cars I lose to are the K Stock Mopars running 383s. Giving me a tree as a head start only results in my apponant going home because at half track Im already in 4th gear and once my converter is locked my mph keeps climbing. Those who say a 305 is a boat anchor I beg to differ and I have a whole lot of trophys to prove it.
Those are some seriously impressive numbers. Thanks for watching!
@@CarGuyV8 it took years of racing and hours and hours on a flow bench to find 2 stock heads that outflowed the other 081 heads I was testing. I went through a pile of 14057053 stock aluminum intake manifolds and found one from a 1978 L82 Corvette that actually outflowed a Weiand Action Plus and Edelbrock Performer so I used that manifold. NHRA rules are the stock intake and carb / fuel injection must be used and the ports / combustion chamber CAN NOT be modified and the valve sizes CAN NOT be changed. The 081 centerbolt heads can easily flow 197 cfm @.400 lift if you machine the valve seat correctly and cut the back side of the intake valves. The cam is a custom ground Crane with 252 duration intake / 258 duration exhaust with a 4/7 swap. The 11:1 compression and the cam is where the horsepower is coming from, that and finding parts that are as close to perfect as I could find. Im using 29 x 9 slicks with a 4.88 gear and 4000 stall ATI lock up converter and wheelie bars to keep the front end on the ground. Its a consistent 11.60s car at night, 11.70s in the heat during the day.
I miss those days of people with a ratty old sbc.
Definitely not too much carb, just a junk carb
I kmow a guy who had a late you 60s chevy pick up with a 305 that had been mildly built that on a short run very few people who ever run him could beat him. Several people lost to him. But he would only bet on a short distance.
Bitchin' Camaro!! 😎
My nephew had a 1988 Firebird Formula with the LB9 TPI 305, 5 speed stick... great running car. It scooted pretty good bone stock and he had plans on 4.10 gears, exhaust etc but he sold it for really good money
I bet that was a fun car with the 5 speed. I’d love to find a decent 5 speed third Gen someday.
@@CarGuyV8 Really fun car, handled great, stopped great, surprised me how well it peeled put and accelerated 👍
@@CarGuyV8I’m swapping mine because muscle car
Dont sleep on them 305's !!!!
yup
Ummmm no... it depends on what heads you have. Most them have low flow heads that only gives you low 200s off the crank. Some only give ya 160hp
Good cam choice, the short LSA works well with the low c.r.
Good stuff keep making it better and you be fine. I just got a 77 Nova with a 305 gonna upgrade it slightly
Isky 256 mega cam long tunes 600, decent dual plane it will be plenty of fun make good torque & pass smog
If you got a lil gear or a 24-2500 converter the 264 works great also
No reason anyone wont think you dont have a healthy 350
327, 350 horse vette cam works well in the engines
This sounds amazing. Great work!
Sounds like carb issue and that smoke looks like fuel
Those wheels and tires look awesome on that car
Thanks!
What gear and convertor you have? The 106 LSA seems like a great choice. Love the chop.
4.56 and 3,000 stall
@@CarGuyV8That’ll do 😎
Little $$...Lots of fun! 👍👍😎😎
Love that finally someone who is do real budget build 👍
Seems like she still has few hundred of rpm of breathe in her why aren't you running her out to 5500-5750?
At 3:02 I took it a touch past 5,500.
Rips what?
I currently have a 1982 Z28 Camaro that’s getting a brand new 305 in it that’s being cammed and all that stuff and it’s not Nooo budget build so far it’s costs me $8,500 bucks it’s about $2,000 more than I wanted to spend but it’s getting the best of everything it needs
i have a 78 type LT with a 305 sbc. i have a mild cam, 4 barrel quadrajet, 4 plane intake manifold, and edelbrock air intake on it. havent really driven it since its had all that stuff on it cuz ive been away at school but cant wait to drive it this summer. its still got stock exhaust whihc is really suffocating it at the moment so at the very least i wanna replace the muffler with a flowmaster and maybe even remove the cat. (it aint passing DEQ anyway lol).
Nice.. go .30 over, flat top pistons, 485/495 lift Howard roller cam trick flow heads a good intake and a 750 holly. Then you will have a very nice 305. It'll shit and git.
Best years of my life were with a 305 that thing would scratch second so violently, such a visceral experience getting to use all of a car.
My modified 91 tbi 305 was fast enough to beat 97 5spd gt
21 ram sport
02 silverado 4.8l
I had an 84 Z28 with the L69 305 that I added NOS to and it was a little rocket.
You spent too much
Not much really . Long as he's having fun. Yeah it's a 305. I get it I've had a few always swapped them out either LS or big cu sbc
O man I know what I’m doing to my 94 Silverado 😂
Did you take the motor apart?
No I didn’t
L0L! so kuL.
Nothin like a V8
Couldn’t agree more
I LOVE IT!! I have an '87 Chevy R10, long-bed, regular cab, 2wd with a TBI 305 in it. I really want to build up the 305 for a mild mannered, streetable cruiser that has a little more omph and bark than the current anemic puppy in it. I'm not looking for a track monster, 1/4 mile time machine, or a neck-breaking tire burner. I just want it to scoot when needed and keep the truck as all original as possible at the same time. 325-350 HP would make me more than happy with it.
Thanks! I used to have a 5 speed 89 tbi 350 truck converted to a 4 barrel with a really small cam. Tons of fun to drive.
I have a Chevy 305 from a 1983 C10 on my 1958 international pickup truck. It has plenty of power and still retains a classic look and sound. Previous owners changed the intake manifold, added new headers and electrical fan but kept the old Rochester quadraject carburator that I overhauled. I am adding power steering and disk brakes to it all GM
Sounds like a good setup. Thanks for watching.
Never heard of 8” glass packs , I’ve seen 22in 27in and 28in
Yep. 12” overall length, 8” case length
Nice!! Not bad at all!!
It surprised me too!
🔥🔥🔥
i like low budget builds, not the TV so called low budget builds with 6k for heads, i love it brother 305 was a good choice back in the day they was good runners had them in full sized trucks and the muscle cars they were good, and going back a few more years they had the 307 it was also a good little v8, 307 had about 50 hp on the 305, my dad had Oldsmobile with a 307 it was strong and would move going down the road
Thanks for watching. It’s more fun throwing something together on a budget too.
What kind of Exhaust you got on that Camaro?
8 inch cherry bomb Glasspacks
@@CarGuyV8 anything else? Maybe it's just the fact I have 32 in glass packs which is why mind doesn't sound remotely close 😅
How many hp?
No clue. Prob 230.
Too much fun!
Is that just a cam or cam lifters and push pins?
Just came and lifters
@@CarGuyV8 ok thank you.. Im thinking about a cam I have only built stock engines I'm just getting in to the drag racing never done any high performance stuff.. everyone I know said I have to do push rods too thank u
@@MarcWalker-v2s This cam is pretty mild. As long as your pushrods aren’t bent and are in decent shape reusing them won’t be an issue unless you’re changing cylinder heads too.
I will point out that reused pushrods don’t always spin with the new lifter. That won’t cause any issues other than mentally not knowing if the lifter is spinning correctly.
U did your thang she’s a beauty
I support this idea and results
Not to shabby for a 305
Sick