Hyundai does it a lot better, they tell you in the manual to buy a quality 32GB (no bigger no smaller) non micro SD card and make your own with any pc and a SD card reader. It's so easy I leave a backup card in the glovebox.
I believe there is some sort of security built into these that locks the SD card to your car the first time you plug it in. So while cloning it worked for your car, I doubt it will work plugged into another Mazda 3. Still might be worth doing the backup if you care about the Nav though. The SD card can fail and having Mazda replace it is a bigger pain than cloning the card.
my guess is when he cloned the card he only cloned the main partition theres probably some hidden partitions on the card that it uses when he used the mazda tool it detected the main partition and lack of other parittions and attempted a rebuild to the card
I've heard there is something that "marries" the SD card to your VIN once you've had it in the car for a certain number of miles. I have no way to test the card in a different car but I believe you're right in that it'll only work in mine. I'm just glad to have a backup in case the OEM one eats shit
Its Bringus though, I personally wouldnt assume linux + into cars, but more of a ... if its electronic and has an entry point .... i will hack it (and maybe put linux on it. But maybe not put linux in your car. But maybe he'll put steamOS on it before selling it for the LOLs)
The SD card has a serial number and after driving with the card for 30miles/50kms the number will be associated with the VIN of the vehicle, and cannot be used in other vehicles. So it will be useful to backup your card, but won't be useful to upgrade other cars without sat nav.
@@IgorGiganskiANtiatom They get a VIN lock approximately after the first 50 KM, according to others in this comment section. The second that VIN lock is applied, it can't be used in another vehicle. You'd need one mint, as they come "unlocked" from the factory.
A $450 normal sd card is required for no reason. Mazda is out of their minds. I can’t get rid of my old car no way I could live with this insanity. Good video, stick it to the man!
1) First off, did you take out the SD card _while the car was on?_ It probably had files open. 2) The Mazda Toolbox lets you make a backup of the SD card. You can restore it that way, too. 3) The card comes from the factory "unlocked". Put it in the vehicle and after driving it for a while (60 miles?) it stores the VIN on the card so you can't swap it to a different vehicle. 4) I've replaced the cards in two different Mazdas, using the Toolbox under Windows. Make sure to format the new card to the same type as the old (FAT32 is what I had) and literally just copied the files from the old card to a folder on my computer, then over to the new card. I increased the size of the SD, no issues. 5) Two tips: Make sure the new SD card is at least as fast as the old one. It seemed to improve startup and access time on the navigation system. Also make sure the new SD card will hanfle the temperature range for a vehicle. I found on clearance a two-pack of card intended for hunting trail cameras and used them. I'd previously hit a problem with a USB flash drive holding MP3 files that would get corrupted from the heat and cold. I took that experience and applied it to the Nav cards, just in case. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Good luck to all trying to understand and suport their Mazda Nav systems!
Hey Bringus, what are the chances on another OG Xbox video? And in your last one, why didn't you use an SSD in it? I'm guessing because it's only an audio difference for the OG Xbox?
I'm a fellow mazda boy and I learned that there's a community made SDK and custom software for the infotainment systems (or at least the last gen ones). I really want to port doom to it, since it's just CSS/Javascript
they lock the id to a database tied to the car so when u try to throw it in another card it doesnt work, ali express has them for like 50-60$ cad so im gonna get that. my car didnt have carplay from the factory but has the touchscreen, 60$ and the interior ripped apart i had android auto and carplay. most mazda parts and accessories you can find identically (part no too) for much cheaper
The issue is the image you took is of an SD card that the car has written (paired) to. If you do some digging you can find the original image that can be cloned.
I kind of appreciate them using an sd card for storage. It’s standardized, reliable, and user serviceable. But fucking 400 bucks and DRM? Can’t have anything nice.
My card, after using this DD clone method or another Windows application cloner, is not recognized by the Mazda Toolbox; it hangs on SD card recognition
Is your car less than three years old?, The mazda toolbox updates are only available for 3 years from new, or you have to pay for them currently 183 Euros, or a single update at 113 Euros.
Hey man bluring your screen isn’t lossless in a lot of cases. I would recommend you double check whatever process you used to blur your car screen. You wouldn’t want any P didilers to pull up to your house
Anyone find a android head unit that has a snapdragon 845? I want to install mobile nixos on one. Hoping to savvy up a 09 Mazda 5 (manual of course). Absolutely would prefer keeping the cd drive installed behind the screen. One can dream.
Just trying to add: you are not paying $500 for the SD card, but for the 3 years of updates that you get with it. Mazda relies on another company for map data.
I once popped my SD card from my Nissan into my computer just to look at what was on there. I found the background inage of the menus as a bmp, I edited the image and popped the SD card back into the card. Head unit would not recognize the card anymore. Tried restoring the file to original (had backups), no luck. Head unit lost many features, wouldn't even remember Bluetooth pairing, time, etc. After a month of trying I finally had to pay roughly $400 to get an update SD card... I will NOT be playing with that card anymore
The most of car brands using CID protecting (Infotainment reading only specific CID) I'm surprised that New mazda leaved this kind of protection, because it's pricely shieet
N-no... cloning the SD card to avoid needing to spend $450 on a regular SD card to use a bad map is piracy... how will John Mazda get his 7th $35M bonus this year if you do such horrible things?
$400 32GB sd card and shitty map. Very awesome. So many things are outright scams now.
It's even worse, it's 499$ 😢
Hyundai does it a lot better, they tell you in the manual to buy a quality 32GB (no bigger no smaller) non micro SD card and make your own with any pc and a SD card reader.
It's so easy I leave a backup card in the glovebox.
Yeah no disrespect to OP because this vid is cool asf but man Mazda fell off
I believe there is some sort of security built into these that locks the SD card to your car the first time you plug it in. So while cloning it worked for your car, I doubt it will work plugged into another Mazda 3. Still might be worth doing the backup if you care about the Nav though. The SD card can fail and having Mazda replace it is a bigger pain than cloning the card.
In that case you would just need to clone a new one?
my guess is when he cloned the card he only cloned the main partition theres probably some hidden partitions on the card that it uses
when he used the mazda tool it detected the main partition and lack of other parittions and attempted a rebuild to the card
@@Sarge92 Using DD on the root block device instead of a specific partition will copy over any partitions, hidden or otherwise. So no, that's not it.
@@niiiiiiisse Yeah DD should copy the raw content on the disk not just the files
I've heard there is something that "marries" the SD card to your VIN once you've had it in the car for a certain number of miles. I have no way to test the card in a different car but I believe you're right in that it'll only work in mine. I'm just glad to have a backup in case the OEM one eats shit
i never thought i'd find someone both into linux and cars but here we are
There's gotta be tens of us
A rare breed. ;-)
There are quite a few of us in IT...
Its Bringus though, I personally wouldnt assume linux + into cars, but more of a ... if its electronic and has an entry point .... i will hack it (and maybe put linux on it. But maybe not put linux in your car. But maybe he'll put steamOS on it before selling it for the LOLs)
idk pretty common in IT at least in Aus. Theres a surprising amount of overlap
AND ITS THE MANUAL 3 YOU TOTAL CHAD ❤❤
the price is WHAT
welcome to the world of dealer pricing.
@@OmairArif I don't want to live on this planet anymore XD
@@kobalt_ren01 People have cloned these cards and sell them for $40 on amazon.
@@kobalt_ren01none of us do. There’s almost as many Nintendo Switch Sports sales as Wii U sales.
It also shows navigation directions on the HUD, android auto and CarPlay don’t. That’s kinda why it’s so expensive.
The SD card has a serial number and after driving with the card for 30miles/50kms the number will be associated with the VIN of the vehicle, and cannot be used in other vehicles. So it will be useful to backup your card, but won't be useful to upgrade other cars without sat nav.
it stores the key in a license file on the sd and the car reads it. mod the files on the disk and boom works
for some reason i read this as flashing Linux onto the SD card and running Linux on the car
That is a very Bringus thing to do
@@Ultima_Atulos_Maxim honestly, it is
it is also a very me thing to do, flashing something with Linux
The car is running Linux. look in the installation guide for MZD-AIO-TI.
Now u can just sell the old one and get £500 😂
Or clone TF out of the original and sell copies for 50$ each at the eBay
@@IgorGiganskiANtiatom 🤑🤑💰💰
@@IgorGiganskiANtiatom They get a VIN lock approximately after the first 50 KM, according to others in this comment section. The second that VIN lock is applied, it can't be used in another vehicle. You'd need one mint, as they come "unlocked" from the factory.
RUclips recommended, I watched, I enjoyed, I subscribed.
Bro you're a Mazda man, a man of fellow taste.
Nah, buying something from a company that pulls shit like this is in very poor taste.
@@ErdrickHero but miat.
@@ErdrickHero also most new car companies suck
@@christopherlanger3159 so buy an old car, they are easier to maintain anyway.
@@ErdrickHero I agree, I like the older Miata, but the newer ones are going to unfortunately be the "old" ones later on
Fun fact. SD stands for secure digital. It's meant to be copy protected.
A $450 normal sd card is required for no reason. Mazda is out of their minds. I can’t get rid of my old car no way I could live with this insanity. Good video, stick it to the man!
this is more entertaining than it should be
1) First off, did you take out the SD card _while the car was on?_ It probably had files open.
2) The Mazda Toolbox lets you make a backup of the SD card. You can restore it that way, too.
3) The card comes from the factory "unlocked". Put it in the vehicle and after driving it for a while (60 miles?) it stores the VIN on the card so you can't swap it to a different vehicle.
4) I've replaced the cards in two different Mazdas, using the Toolbox under Windows. Make sure to format the new card to the same type as the old (FAT32 is what I had) and literally just copied the files from the old card to a folder on my computer, then over to the new card. I increased the size of the SD, no issues.
5) Two tips:
Make sure the new SD card is at least as fast as the old one. It seemed to improve startup and access time on the navigation system.
Also make sure the new SD card will hanfle the temperature range for a vehicle. I found on clearance a two-pack of card intended for hunting trail cameras and used them. I'd previously hit a problem with a USB flash drive holding MP3 files that would get corrupted from the heat and cold. I took that experience and applied it to the Nav cards, just in case.
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Good luck to all trying to understand and suport their Mazda Nav systems!
sounds like the move is to clone one while it's still in the factory "unlocked" state and sell those as fakesies
@@beapippin1110 Unfortunately even if that wasn't the intent, that's likely what some people will try to do.
Oh my goodness I’m fairly certain I used to work at the shop that imaged those cards!
I drive a manual Mazda 3 too! Respect.
No clue why this was on my recommended as I don't drive a Mazda and I don't uses Linux but nice vid I found it very interesting
I noticed my car has an sd for the maps too. I drive a lexus. Wonder if it would work similarly. Save a lot of money once the old sd goes out.
Can't wait to sacrifice my sandisk sdcard for a Mazda brand sd card!!!
Hey Bringus, what are the chances on another OG Xbox video? And in your last one, why didn't you use an SSD in it? I'm guessing because it's only an audio difference for the OG Xbox?
Are you sure that the navigation isn’t just an updated tomtom navigation system? That’s what the older Mazdas and other cars with nav used
I'm a fellow mazda boy and I learned that there's a community made SDK and custom software for the infotainment systems (or at least the last gen ones). I really want to port doom to it, since it's just CSS/Javascript
Awesome video! I have a CX-5 and was wondering how I could get a new card with an updated map without paying $500, I'll have to try the toolbox.
Now to see if we can mod car infotainment to add unofficial features like NOAA Weather Radio, or themes
Maybe you can try to make a diff from both cards. I guess, the toolbox updates some file to match the sdcard serial or something.
Just by the title, I already knew dd would be involved 😂
This is super interesting!
they lock the id to a database tied to the car so when u try to throw it in another card it doesnt work, ali express has them for like 50-60$ cad so im gonna get that. my car didnt have carplay from the factory but has the touchscreen, 60$ and the interior ripped apart i had android auto and carplay. most mazda parts and accessories you can find identically (part no too) for much cheaper
I wonder if there's some way to put openstreetmap data into these car navigation systems
I'm a simple man, I see mazda 3 I sub
You just earned a Subscribe
Maybe its like a playstation manual update file on a usb stick where it would have the file locations labeled or something
I'm curious what exactly was changed (besides obviously the map udpate)
The issue is the image you took is of an SD card that the car has written (paired) to. If you do some digging you can find the original image that can be cloned.
I kind of appreciate them using an sd card for storage. It’s standardized, reliable, and user serviceable. But fucking 400 bucks and DRM? Can’t have anything nice.
Is there an app for GM vehicles?
i did this with ford sync, you must somehow to insert the serial number of the sd card into the data files.
My card, after using this DD clone method or another Windows application cloner, is not recognized by the Mazda Toolbox; it hangs on SD card recognition
i have a mazda cx5 without the nav card, i wonder if this would work on my car?
Buy the one for your. Year model
In a VW you have a SD-Card for the Navi-Files too.
But you can download all Map-files from VW directly and put it on a normal SD-Card
"Scam the SHIT out of my car!" LMAO
Is your car less than three years old?, The mazda toolbox updates are only available for 3 years from new, or you have to pay for them currently 183 Euros, or a single update at 113 Euros.
Yup my Cx 5 2021 Amazon bought Sd card expires late 2024....Can I buy a new one after that?
I have the same car as you, Mind dropping a link to the backup? I wanna try it out on my car.
Please do pcap on the usb traffic the Mazda application does
Is that a Zephyrus G14? How Linux compatible is that thing? any issues?
Pretty fucking cool. Thanks!
Can you share your backup please ? I lost my original Mazda SD card and I need to create a clone asap
I gaurentee you there’s people that have rips of the software on the ad card and all the files you can install for free on any $5 32gb sd card.
Does the Software also run with wine?
mazdagang except i have a 3rd gen. much better in my eyes, but subjective
Hey man bluring your screen isn’t lossless in a lot of cases. I would recommend you double check whatever process you used to blur your car screen. You wouldn’t want any P didilers to pull up to your house
Anyone find a android head unit that has a snapdragon 845? I want to install mobile nixos on one. Hoping to savvy up a 09 Mazda 5 (manual of course). Absolutely would prefer keeping the cd drive installed behind the screen. One can dream.
I don't own any Mazdas but, messing with cars in Linux is too cool to pass by
You should maybe setup a media fire link or mega just in case the download gets removed from the Mazda site
Could you upload the file data into the cloud so us mortals can create our own SD? 🙏
anyone else notice the Magazine in the center console?
Epic
Wow, that's one heck of an expensive SD card. $450?!
Diff the images of the cards. And the contents on the FS (mount in ro)
Probably detected a "corrupt" serial number in some config file
@mazda your done buddy
What Linux distro are you using in the video?
looks like ubuntu
Sexcellent, a stickshift Mazda 3 too, i would subscribe now if i didnt already 😅
Just trying to add: you are not paying $500 for the SD card, but for the 3 years of updates that you get with it. Mazda relies on another company for map data.
I remeber finding that shit out in some family members' cars.
i think i stole a couple of these from a dealership years ago
Those cars aren't designed to handle the .gz format, maybe use a cloning tool
You wouldn't download a Mazda SD card...
I think you can make your own volkswagen one with volkswagen software for free
I believe it's the same thing with Toyota 😶
You can do it only for older models of toyota nav systems like 2014-2008
@melldiredi2416
I mean, it has a very expensive sd card for the navigation system, I don't know if you can clone it 🤷
@@melldiredi2416what’s the process for that? It always wants me to pay first before doing the update on the sd card
That's basically an overpriced paperweight.
I once popped my SD card from my Nissan into my computer just to look at what was on there. I found the background inage of the menus as a bmp, I edited the image and popped the SD card back into the card. Head unit would not recognize the card anymore. Tried restoring the file to original (had backups), no luck. Head unit lost many features, wouldn't even remember Bluetooth pairing, time, etc. After a month of trying I finally had to pay roughly $400 to get an update SD card... I will NOT be playing with that card anymore
thats why not everyone should be doing it, if you dont know what you doing. don't do it.
This...does not satisfy. I must know why and how. The system must be hacked
Imagine using one as a regular sd card XD
SD cards would be no different to MMC cards if it weren't for the fact that SD cards have support for DRM.
next video gaming on the touchscreen... 💀💀
Can I download your card data
dont let rainbolt sees this video
The most of car brands using CID protecting (Infotainment reading only specific CID) I'm surprised that New mazda leaved this kind of protection, because it's pricely shieet
Mazda 3 bm (2017) team !
Now sell those at half the price of new ones 😂
i enter too much communities, first cars, then tech, then video games, then aviation, then speedrunning
Jon Bringus discovers infinite money glitch, taken out by CIA
You can send me the image
I bought one of these from eBay and it's probably not real. It doesn't help that the updater tool likes to flag real SD cards as fake.
500dollars for a sd card????
steamOS would've been good..
My car dowloads its maps...
Now implement Google Maps
SD Card. Like Secure Digital Card. :P :P :P Each card has a unique identifier that can be used to check authenticity.
I thought you was gonna game on it…
I’m sorry, 500 freaking dollars for offline navigation???
Is there a Nissan version of it
Hi
ok now sell it for a hundred bucks
Hey
N-no... cloning the SD card to avoid needing to spend $450 on a regular SD card to use a bad map is piracy... how will John Mazda get his 7th $35M bonus this year if you do such horrible things?
Make it run doom
where is fucking doom
at 2:02 is that a pistol magazine LMAO