@@Troubleman2022🚨 MartinSkelly is not Brazilian, he's Bolivian on god he's Bolivian, someone double he's passport real quick, I think he's from Cardiff
Our attck is bad because we dont have creative mid anymore. Arteta needs to figure out how to put a playet in the mid that can create Unitll Martin recovers from his injury. Unitll then we're fkt.
Sometimes when you talk people think we hate Arteta, but Arteta seems not to be learning. Your team can't be playing beautiful football and at the end wins noting that doesn't make any sense. A team that want to be champion should stop hiding behind injuries, injury is part of the game 100%. We could even sign a proper replacement for odegaard and the both of them could get injured together which has happened to other clubs before and can still happen. We got a huge squad that can win any team in the world if only the manager do the proper selection per game. Last season I think we lost the league just from one lost against villa, people may say no but that's what I think. City won the league with just 2 points, so if we had won against villa and won the rest of our games like we did, we would have won the league with 1 point different. The reason we lost that villa game was he played Havertz in midfield and it didn't work at all, besides some other games Havertz has played in midfield and we lost or draw, so I don't get it why he can't learn this simple thing that a little man outside the game can see. It's getting frustrating and there should be no more excuses for him if he doesn't win a major trophy this season. The game is all about winning trophies and not playing beautiful football and going empty, it doesn't make sense.
Spot on I find no fault with your statement arteta has tactics yes but his game selection and team management is poor poor. Against villa last season he was to play partey esr and odegaard in the midfield rest kai and rest for Bayern game start martenelli trossard and Jesus rest saka but no u risk them all lost and still lose to Bayern smh … this season after under playing esr and Nelson u sold them now look at our team smallest in the league odegaard is injured now after. U playing him game in game out big game small game he is injured we could of played esr bow in the middle we don’t hv that , summer came no replacements only defensive players no striker still smh . Arteta is a coach not a manager he needs to be at the side of a manager
@jabariphillips8331 Sure you are right; he needs to learn management, it really seems to be his greatest weakness. Again, I'm baffle as to how he didn't copy that from Pep cuz I believe been an apprentice to somebody of such quality is an advantage to upgrade yourself. Pep rotates his squad frequently and that helps alot; players been overused is a serious risk taking into consideration we still lacking in certain positions. I thought he would be that brave to give Nwaneri sometimes in odegaard place for which he didn't sign anyone, but yet still not trusting the kid so why didn't he sign anyone and gave out players that could cover up just incase of this situation we face with now? He and his board are 100% aware that this season the clubs got more games to play than any other season taking into consideration this crazy changed UEFA has introduced, and yet they only concentrated on defense that already been strong from last season and failed to address the major problems. It's ridiculous and totally frustrating. I'm scare we might end up with the same story if they don't do something in January.
@@dlaw1131 exactly arteta biggest problem is him being stubborn he favors some players too ,pep will bench kdb in there biggest games of the season arteta would never do saka that or odegaard that… under arteta our academy players have not strived he stifles them we even lost some good ones, he never used esr and Nelson even when fit Lewis skelly Ethan etc he doesn’t use them , pep uses Rico Lewis bravely and our youngsters are better than him arteta needs to go back as a number 2 then go to a small team and build him self up he is not the guy to lead us to a title only beautiful football
David R was always the guy, the fans created a issue with all the noise around him and ramdale so he couldnt bed in now you see just how good he is! Hands like glue and mans got a highlight reel in a few games most pro keepers wont have in their whole career🤣
Troopz, there's no difference between Partey and Jorginho at this time. Both are awfully slow. Remember Jorginho got brushed aside many times in that game...and got caught on the ball.
This parking the bus not gonna work long time, did the same against Spurs and got away with it, I don’t think playing this way is sustainable when it mattered most.
“Quick football”? You think arteta knows what means, he’s a boring dude and it comes out in the way we play. The most that the ball will be progressed in that game will be from raya back to rice. We aren’t progressing shit
@@malsmith1618 back them up with tangible trophies. And if u tell me those don’t matter, u need to wipe away the red and keep the white in the Arsenal shirt
@@Joshkb-fp8rv it doesnt matter in context because you cant tell me wenger was a better manager during his last year compared to arteta now same with southgate just because he got england to the euros finals twice doesnt mean hes great
Spot on! Folks keep deluding themselves. This team is moving backwards, literally. The past two seasons have been spent buying defenders, defensive midfielders and goalkeepers. Little to no attention is b3ing paid to the forward line. The team is devoid of any real treat, particularly against top opposition. Don't even get me started on the manager. Playing players out of position and ultimately superintending over turgid performances.
@@molotovcocktail7645 hey, if you want to completely understand how shit we are at everything except defending, take a look at sky sports videos comparing city and arsenal stats. We literally put more men behind the ball compared to newly promoted teams and it’s sickening. We struggle to pass the ball forward to one another, let alone get in positions to score. Watching our games feels like a waste of freaking time considering that we do jack shit all game long, we are literally so terrible and nobody tells the truth. We can’t link together as as a team whether Martin is with us or not and arteta will survive off excuses despite playing worse ball than lower opposition teams. I understand defending to win trophies but the issue is that we have won jack shit and played shit football, so what’s the give and take as a fan? This is the shit we applaud???
I think it’s time to have an uncomfortable conversation about martinelli and Jesus. I don’t want to see them Sunday. It’ll feel like we are a man or 2 down. Similar to smith Rowe love them but are they really going to help us win the pl? Martinelli has potential if he comes back into form but Jesus…😬
Facts I don't rate those 2 we should have sold them don't forget arteta as well why didn't he go for a striker the problem during the transfer window mikel thinks he inverted football if does not win us a trophy this season he needs to be checked also
Can one player’s absence makes such a great difference in a team’s performance? At times during the game I was wondering if it was Atalanta Vs Stoke City!
Bro it’s like this, if our top players can’t create chances in the championship we’re fucked in the premier league fr😂😂🤌🏾no doubt they’ll turn it around tho💯🔥
i know atalanta beat leverkusen and loserpool last season but we should win this game against atalanta if martinelli can finish big chance when 1 vs 1 finishing against goal keeper
I have been saying it and I don't see him improving and don't forget Jesus is washed why does Mikel buy city rejects I'm beginning to doubt his processes
@@bukhosidube1674 at first it made sense tbf. I mean when we bought Jesus/zinchenko we were just trying to get into the top 4 and that year was when we did a lot better than we thought. However, now and I was hoping this year we would improve on them because like you said city rejects. And to be fair I think Arteta has tried that with zinchenko. Last year timber was out the whole year and he’s now starting, and we brought in califiori. And I guess Jesus replacement was Havertz? Who’s playing very well by the way no disrespect at all to Kai. If they can’t get into city’s team though, how can we expect to finish above them when they’re in our team?
Not a bad result but a boring game, no creativity in the midfield, toothless upfront.. especially with that martinelli chance, but huge hats off to raya for that penalty save.. constantly coming up clutch in key moments!
That is the mentality of losers and failures. You think City would say "well they beat Liverpool" so it's fine to get a draw. Stop applauding mediocrity my friend.
And who will they win it with? They havent won it before. So if Arteta doesnt win the Champions League how is he any different to any manager in Arsenal history. If he does win it he gets an automatic statue outside the Emirates.
We aresa rubbish offensive side. We have a failing manager with a failed transfer policy 20 of 26 signings defensive. 800m spend with THE most unbalanced squad. 3 LW 1 RW 5 LB 3 RB 4 DM No.LCM or back up 1 AM It's.literally crazy how lightweight we are in attack We have no elite striker, no RW comp for Saka, no AM.comp for Odegaard, no.LCM We.dont buy black flair players at all anymore, especially African Its clear the squad is being whitewashed Why prioritze Sesko over Isak, Openda, Boniface, Thuram, Osinhem, David???? Metino over Eze? Sterling over Bakayoko, Leoa, Gordon This.manger will win nothing again this year. If Edu can't target correct players with he and Arteta should leave
Before the summer transfer even started, I evangelized the Arsenal fan base to go all out, begged & plead EDU to buy a Striker Eh, Now The Chickens 🐔 Have Come Home to Roast ⚽️🤭🤏🏾 I warned them!
They cannot cope with injuries and this pragmatic style won't last long for them unfortunately. It did work maybe 10 years ago but since Pep has been at CIty the game has changed.
No problem with a draw but one win out of our last 6 in ucl is bad bro, can’t win the champions league with those results. Happy we got a point but it was an awful performance
Martinelli is CLAPPED
🤣 dusted he needs to sent abroad
He needs to do better or arteta will get rid off him tbh
@@Troubleman2022🚨 MartinSkelly is not Brazilian, he's Bolivian on god he's Bolivian, someone double he's passport real quick, I think he's from Cardiff
He needs to be put in the striking position he is not playing well on the wing now play him in strike Jesus or havertz is not the answer up top
I miss old Martinelii
I feel like Raya arrived when he helped us with the penalties against Porto
Our attck is bad because we dont have creative mid anymore.
Arteta needs to figure out how to put a playet in the mid that can create Unitll Martin recovers from his injury. Unitll then we're fkt.
Poor attacking yes, but defensive performance was fire, again.
Sometimes when you talk people think we hate Arteta, but Arteta seems not to be learning. Your team can't be playing beautiful football and at the end wins noting that doesn't make any sense.
A team that want to be champion should stop hiding behind injuries, injury is part of the game 100%. We could even sign a proper replacement for odegaard and the both of them could get injured together which has happened to other clubs before and can still happen. We got a huge squad that can win any team in the world if only the manager do the proper selection per game. Last season I think we lost the league just from one lost against villa, people may say no but that's what I think.
City won the league with just 2 points, so if we had won against villa and won the rest of our games like we did, we would have won the league with 1 point different. The reason we lost that villa game was he played Havertz in midfield and it didn't work at all, besides some other games Havertz has played in midfield and we lost or draw, so I don't get it why he can't learn this simple thing that a little man outside the game can see. It's getting frustrating and there should be no more excuses for him if he doesn't win a major trophy this season. The game is all about winning trophies and not playing beautiful football and going empty, it doesn't make sense.
Spot on I find no fault with your statement arteta has tactics yes but his game selection and team management is poor poor.
Against villa last season he was to play partey esr and odegaard in the midfield rest kai and rest for Bayern game start martenelli trossard and Jesus rest saka but no u risk them all lost and still lose to Bayern smh … this season after under playing esr and Nelson u sold them now look at our team smallest in the league odegaard is injured now after. U playing him game in game out big game small game he is injured we could of played esr bow in the middle we don’t hv that , summer came no replacements only defensive players no striker still smh . Arteta is a coach not a manager he needs to be at the side of a manager
@jabariphillips8331 Sure you are right; he needs to learn management, it really seems to be his greatest weakness. Again, I'm baffle as to how he didn't copy that from Pep cuz I believe been an apprentice to somebody of such quality is an advantage to upgrade yourself. Pep rotates his squad frequently and that helps alot; players been overused is a serious risk taking into consideration we still lacking in certain positions.
I thought he would be that brave to give Nwaneri sometimes in odegaard place for which he didn't sign anyone, but yet still not trusting the kid so why didn't he sign anyone and gave out players that could cover up just incase of this situation we face with now? He and his board are 100% aware that this season the clubs got more games to play than any other season taking into consideration this crazy changed UEFA has introduced, and yet they only concentrated on defense that already been strong from last season and failed to address the major problems. It's ridiculous and totally frustrating. I'm scare we might end up with the same story if they don't do something in January.
@@dlaw1131 exactly arteta biggest problem is him being stubborn he favors some players too ,pep will bench kdb in there biggest games of the season arteta would never do saka that or odegaard that… under arteta our academy players have not strived he stifles them we even lost some good ones, he never used esr and Nelson even when fit Lewis skelly Ethan etc he doesn’t use them , pep uses Rico Lewis bravely and our youngsters are better than him arteta needs to go back as a number 2 then go to a small team and build him self up he is not the guy to lead us to a title only beautiful football
Lol armchair tactico talk here, You boys even manage a team outside of fifa🎮😂
At this point, we were just poor from the beginning to the ending !!
True. We should just say it like it is.
We need a 9 yesterday and solid backups in some key positions (cam, cm, rw)
Martinelli is the Brazilian rashford, I ain’t even joking
Fr
Raya has improved alot
Facts
Well said. Troopz you speak facts
saliba played well Troopz, he was on with his tackles
Sterling was confused&lost. His so used to play in blues.
David R was always the guy, the fans created a issue with all the noise around him and ramdale so he couldnt bed in now you see just how good he is! Hands like glue and mans got a highlight reel in a few games most pro keepers wont have in their whole career🤣
Troopz, there's no difference between Partey and Jorginho at this time. Both are awfully slow. Remember Jorginho got brushed aside many times in that game...and got caught on the ball.
YOU GET ME
Mad how troopz was quick to mention Jesus in the attack but not martinelli who missed another big chance again and I’m an Arsenal fan too
I don't know what's wrong with martinelli his game is gone backwards;
Martinelli need to wake up now can’t expect from him like this.
He forgot when come inside box what to do now ? 😔😔
Martinelli, Partey, Jesus. All finished. We need reinforcements quick!
Fr
“Take yo time wit it, Take yo time wit it, Take yo time wit it, Take yo time wit it”💀
What was Gabriel Jesus doing with the captain armband, that’s the first mistake it’s a no brainer DRice should have been the cap
This parking the bus not gonna work long time, did the same against Spurs and got away with it, I don’t think playing this way is sustainable when it mattered most.
You make perfect sense.
We will never win any major trophy without a striker 😤 and it sucks
Lets buy another chelsea reject
“Quick football”? You think arteta knows what means, he’s a boring dude and it comes out in the way we play. The most that the ball will be progressed in that game will be from raya back to rice. We aren’t progressing shit
Boring of course he is he only took us to our highest ever points total and goals scored in premier league history
@@malsmith1618 back them up with tangible trophies. And if u tell me those don’t matter, u need to wipe away the red and keep the white in the Arsenal shirt
@@Joshkb-fp8rv it doesnt matter in context because you cant tell me wenger was a better manager during his last year compared to arteta now same with southgate just because he got england to the euros finals twice doesnt mean hes great
Spot on! Folks keep deluding themselves. This team is moving backwards, literally. The past two seasons have been spent buying defenders, defensive midfielders and goalkeepers. Little to no attention is b3ing paid to the forward line. The team is devoid of any real treat, particularly against top opposition. Don't even get me started on the manager. Playing players out of position and ultimately superintending over turgid performances.
@@molotovcocktail7645 hey, if you want to completely understand how shit we are at everything except defending, take a look at sky sports videos comparing city and arsenal stats. We literally put more men behind the ball compared to newly promoted teams and it’s sickening. We struggle to pass the ball forward to one another, let alone get in positions to score. Watching our games feels like a waste of freaking time considering that we do jack shit all game long, we are literally so terrible and nobody tells the truth. We can’t link together as as a team whether Martin is with us or not and arteta will survive off excuses despite playing worse ball than lower opposition teams. I understand defending to win trophies but the issue is that we have won jack shit and played shit football, so what’s the give and take as a fan? This is the shit we applaud???
We need Tomiyasu back to compete for that RB position. Ben ain’t cuttin it
You have faith in Tomiyasu?
Mate relax ben is only starting the guy hasn't had pre season or anything else he'll pick it up
Fkn hate kids that don't have knowledge of the game.
I think it’s time to have an uncomfortable conversation about martinelli and Jesus. I don’t want to see them Sunday. It’ll feel like we are a man or 2 down. Similar to smith Rowe love them but are they really going to help us win the pl? Martinelli has potential if he comes back into form but Jesus…😬
Facts I don't rate those 2 we should have sold them don't forget arteta as well why didn't he go for a striker the problem during the transfer window mikel thinks he inverted football if does not win us a trophy this season he needs to be checked also
Can one player’s absence makes such a great difference in a team’s performance?
At times during the game I was wondering if it was Atalanta Vs Stoke City!
Ødegaard will possibly be out for 2 months - is that the way we're gonna play without him?
😂😂😂😂😂
Bro it’s like this, if our top players can’t create chances in the championship we’re fucked in the premier league fr😂😂🤌🏾no doubt they’ll turn it around tho💯🔥
just park the bus and nick a late goal from a set piece like you always do against a decent side 😂
That only can work so much and no more.
We did that against Spurs not a decent side 🤷♂️
Defense will be carrying us until Oodegard returns or reinforcements in January
They were never comfortable with ramsdale that guy always gave defense pressure
Huge thanks to Raya for making many incredible saves
i know atalanta beat leverkusen and loserpool last season but we should win this game against atalanta if martinelli can finish big chance when 1 vs 1 finishing against goal keeper
Need to sell Martinelli he’s been poor for ages now.
Agreed. Doesn’t even seem like he lost confidence just isn’t performing. Gotta sell before his price tag is diminished
I have been saying it and I don't see him improving and don't forget Jesus is washed why does Mikel buy city rejects I'm beginning to doubt his processes
@@bukhosidube1674 at first it made sense tbf. I mean when we bought Jesus/zinchenko we were just trying to get into the top 4 and that year was when we did a lot better than we thought. However, now and I was hoping this year we would improve on them because like you said city rejects. And to be fair I think Arteta has tried that with zinchenko. Last year timber was out the whole year and he’s now starting, and we brought in califiori. And I guess Jesus replacement was Havertz? Who’s playing very well by the way no disrespect at all to Kai. If they can’t get into city’s team though, how can we expect to finish above them when they’re in our team?
@@jacksonboyd02everything to u plastic fan is sell sell sell…
@@bukhosidube1674u don’t see him improving?hope when he does u will go and start supporting another team ..what a shame
Jesus and Martinelli both are in their last season with Arsenal. Just not happening for either of them. Sad
Not a bad result but a boring game, no creativity in the midfield, toothless upfront.. especially with that martinelli chance, but huge hats off to raya for that penalty save.. constantly coming up clutch in key moments!
yes gabriel was unremarkable but martinelli and thomas partey were absolutely shocking how dead they were
Atalanta slapped up Liverpool not long ago, everyone just chill. It wasn’t as bad as everyone says online.
Cope
Save your praises for another day. Awful is awful.
Keep living in the past 😂 this year Atalanta is much weaker
What a weak mind set u have
That is the mentality of losers and failures. You think City would say "well they beat Liverpool" so it's fine to get a draw. Stop applauding mediocrity my friend.
Should have played Nwaneri
Man don't have faith in youths
@@MrAzteclionhe's basically a cheque book manager at this point
Sloppy play today, we need to improve this next game. Raya player of the match today, what a double save.
Timber also played well
No way am I the first man active
Shocking result
Ya get me
Bukkake Saka and Martin Kelly STANK today
talking about saka but no mention of partey? get out man😂
1 thing is clear for sure after 5 years the job is way too big for Arteta and edu..
Say it like it is.
Nonsense...you reckon you can do better?
No he can't but I'm sure another personal professional can@@kelvinkaranja1799
@@kelvinkaranja1799what an idiotic response
💪💪👍👍👍👍@@kelvinkaranja1799
Second game we come back stronger
From this point on arteta might as well just play the young ones.
Arsenal will never win champs league fact with arteta
And who will they win it with? They havent won it before. So if Arteta doesnt win the Champions League how is he any different to any manager in Arsenal history. If he does win it he gets an automatic statue outside the Emirates.
No pedigree in Europe.
Poorest arsenal attacking , no attack in mid and we need a clinical striker blad
Please Trossard and Jorghino should not start against Man City, please!
Zinchenko needs to play in midfield... There are no creativity... It’s where he plays for the national team...
Single digit shots on goal, Keeper MOTM 2/5 games. You are beginning to lool like United under Ole! Enjoy 😭😭
T Piddy is so washed. Why did he even start tonight
Kai in mid just dont work he should know from last season
No one in mid is going to work unless they put that kid on
He's the only one that can be creative and that can create for the players.
We aresa rubbish offensive side.
We have a failing manager with a failed transfer policy
20 of 26 signings defensive.
800m spend with THE most unbalanced squad.
3 LW
1 RW
5 LB
3 RB
4 DM
No.LCM or back up
1 AM
It's.literally crazy how lightweight we are in attack
We have no elite striker, no RW comp for Saka, no AM.comp for Odegaard, no.LCM
We.dont buy black flair players at all anymore, especially African
Its clear the squad is being whitewashed
Why prioritze Sesko over Isak, Openda, Boniface, Thuram, Osinhem, David????
Metino over Eze?
Sterling over Bakayoko, Leoa, Gordon
This.manger will win nothing again this year.
If Edu can't target correct players with he and Arteta should leave
I don't really know to Martinelli and Jesus guys
Before the summer transfer even started, I evangelized the Arsenal fan base to go all out, begged & plead EDU to buy a Striker Eh, Now The Chickens 🐔 Have Come Home to Roast ⚽️🤭🤏🏾 I warned them!
Arteta is trying to be mourinho under chelsea so bad its embarrasing
Park the bus fc back againnnnn
Back a blood claat again
why wouldnt we ? we did it twice vs city last season
😂😂😂😂😊
Rice is better in the 6 role
One Injury to your team and you can’t play ..United had more than 10 players injured and y’all laughed at them
That's how deluded fans are.
United are trash with their strongest XI we aren’t..
They cannot cope with injuries and this pragmatic style won't last long for them unfortunately. It did work maybe 10 years ago but since Pep has been at CIty the game has changed.
Don't think it was that bad of a game. They did win europa league. Only bad ppl were partay and martinelli
Your tolerance level is very low.
Europa 😂 come on. This is not Madrid. Mid table teams will be happy to get a point
6 years ago, this would have been an L. A point away from home is a solid result.
No problem with a draw but one win out of our last 6 in ucl is bad bro, can’t win the champions league with those results. Happy we got a point but it was an awful performance
Flip flopping as usual