EDIT:: Please check out the new take on the Hades being amazing for Hip Hop and R&B. 👇🏻 ruclips.net/video/86-B_fkcJ-U/видео.htmlsi=Z1vLhnD0D-3u8qAi Obviously I should just watch his video if I would like to understand his intentions. That’s on me. I shouldn’t have asked for him to talk to me or say something here when I can check what he says, for myself, first! But thank you in any case to everyone who has commented on his behalf who follow his videos closely and understand his target audience and intentions well. Thank you for giving me that insight despite my lack of due diligence to watch him for myself. My life is busy and I really don’t watch what other reviewers produce at all anymore. I’m a reviewer hermit who would rather just talk to the other reviewer if I could. But still, in this case I really should watch him. I’m sure he’s busy too 🙇🏻♂️ Though I do have to say, for people saying this set isn’t meant for me and that I shouldn’t review it or say my opinion…. What? My take as a reviewer is that I’m just one person sharing my own personal tastes. The set may be tuned for bass heads and for a specific set of genres, but I’m still going to say if I don’t like it personally. Even if I try bass heavy music, I still haven’t found joy in it. And if I do pump up the volume as people suggest so that I could hear the upper end more, and this is a problem with any bass heavy set including the likes of QKZ HBB and FUDU, then the bass is just way too ear damaging loud for me. The idea that we need to dial the volume up to enjoy the recessed upper ends on warm sets is just asking for hearing loss and discomfort. It hurts. So no, I’m not listening past the point of pain on any set I try. And, from what I recall, HBB has said he doesn’t listen to music beyond 80 dB himself (if it’s higher than that you can correct me, but there WAS a limit he set for himself for the sake of hearing protection).
Just the fact that you realised that it probably was something with it that you probably missed gives you lots of respect imo. Others may have missed or are going to miss this completely and just crap on it. Personally I love the legato and Khan for what I listen to, and I've ordered the Hades. :) I should probably order the QKZxHBB aswell. 😊 Thanks for your review!
My Mensch yeah Some homework was in order,you know his genre and music specific and targeted to that I'm not a fan of most of his library, however I don't have a set like this,so I'll be ordering it. I have a bunch of Harmon correct tuning!!!!😮
For some perspective... this is like a new restaurant opened up featuring the hottest peppers in the world and a food critic who doesn’t like hot and spicy was the one sent to do a review…
@@lololololololol444 This is a great analogy. Now, just to be a devil’s advocate here, could someone go in to that restaurant, someone who DOES want very hot food, and say they still don’t enjoy that much spice? Could it still be valid to say they think the spice overshadowed the rest of the dishes’ flavors too much? 🤔 Now as it turns out, I’ve been listening to it again on a variety of spicy centric dishes (hip hop, rap, EDM), and I do have to say I’ve come more around to finding the joys there. There’s a review coming 😊 Buuuut. It still isn’t perfect. More to come!
If you haven't i think watching his video about the set explains what the intent with the set was the best. A set for the basshead not just enjoying a bit of extra bass. And was not made to be an allrounder. I personally really respect him for tuning a set for fun in a category of audio he enjoys as well, knowing it won't be something everyone is interested in and that will not get the best reviews from people comparing and using it outside of it's intend
He was trying to recreate a fun car audio sound. It is intentionally very bass forward. It’s not intended to be very nuanced or an audiophile sound. It’s meant for Hip Hop, R&B, and maybe heavy rock music. So even the track you are using doesn’t exactly fit the criteria for what it was made for.
Good to know! I’ll try to listen to more hip hop and stuff. But man, idk. I still scratch my head on anything I’ve tried so far and wonder if I, personally, can find that joy. But I’m very glad you shared what kind of music was intended to be enjoyed. I’m sure someone will dig it. I just haven’t, yet, found that joy myself.
@@dansaudioreviewsmaybe artists like XXXTENTACION, Craig David, Mac Miller etc. They are kind of melodic for hiphop or rap. But I think Hades is made for some kind of extreme bass boosted music, not sure...
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I found the QKZ x hbb to be surprisingly versatile for being warm, it's a beautiful bit of kit, I felt that warmth through your recordings so i wanted it and I need to pull that set out again but I'm finding it hard to take my cca rhapsody out of my ears, the BA drivers are done so well for a cheap set and the bass kicks with 1&2 up. It can occasionally sound a bit unrefined, but for its price I can't complain. It is an iem you might need to EQ. There's another set that's said to be tonally very good for about $30 named the EPZ Q1 pro. I blind bought. 😅 Sometimes I like a mystery. But every review ive heard or read is very positive.
Of all of the sets in this video, I think the Fudu sounds the best... it's amazing how good the HBB sounds for the price, but the Fudu just sounds more complete to me 😊
I get why you like the Fudu, but I prefer the HBB... the reason is the fudu is very v shape, like 2020 KZs. The HBB has less bass impact than Fudu, but also less irritating treble. In an odd way the HBB is easier to listen to.
@@larrydunn4626 I have both the FUDU and a few 2020 era V monsters including a few KZs, I can assure you that the treble on the FUDU is not like the typical V tuned IEMs, it present but rolled off and smooth. But the FUDU is not for everyone, it really reminds me of listening to speakers running off of an old tube amp.
Good to see You back in track, nobody does what You do. your soundbites in between comentary are amazing. I think You should do the demos with hip hop or EDM, that are the kind of genre intended for this IEM
All your demos here on Hades sound great if u turn up the volume slightly higher than normal. U will hear the bass and also the vocal, although the vocal takes a step backwards/recessed. The bass is the focus here; That’s the intention . U don’t hear the overly bright treble which u will get from Qkz HBB, Legato or the Fudu with the volume turned up. ❤ Yeah I Ithink I like it because this is the only iem that allows u to hear at higher volume without getting pierced by the treble. 🙏✌️👍🥰 HBB is a genius in this respect. He does it for the Bass. 😊
I listen to the last demo, and Wow! The rumble from Hades is the best. It’s the most prominent among the rest, sitting at the front seat. Not even Legato can hold a candle to it. If you just want to seat back and relax, surrounded by warm pervading bass, this is the one. Forget about the treble details , it’s not about that. Bass is the king. 👑
I have neutral sounding iem, V shaped fun sounding iem, bright sounding iem, treble focused iem, bassy iem. All of these will sound horrible if I turned up the volume ( treble gets in the way), or becomes too distracting) . I believe Basshead Hades takes care of all of that; Treble can’t invade. 😁 It’s either brightness or darkness, no in between. 😇😎
@@ameenSW Yeah I don’t remember hearing any sharp treble with my X HBB. This demo here sounds pretty spicy. He could have done some tuning for the comparison.
@@cadmiumpureland Hi, I think it's worth ordering this hades or qkz x hbb earphone, what you described with high volume and a lot of high frequencies is very annoying for me, I'm hard of hearing and I want to hear at high volume with comfort and less high frequencies, which the earphone listens to apple earpods and hyperx cloud mix there are a lot of high frequencies at high volumes with a Megatron DAC and I'm not comfortable, I think I just found the earphone that I need, but I also think which one is better to order qkz x hbb or hades anyway, I also want to listen to high frequencies but not so annoying and comfortable)) if the text is a little unclear, then it is translated with the help of a translator
This set, the Hades, it’s meant for EDM, house, deep house, progressive techno, trance, Hip Hop, R&B, heavy rock and metal...that's why it sounds weird in very vocal forward generes. As slothninja5180 said, HBB is trying to recreate a very "subwoofer car-audioish" kind of sound that rumbles in your ears :)
Hey man your are amazing and doing wonderful work. I am confused alot in buying iem and i started watching your videos from last one week now thanks man for being Honest Raw and in your review the best part of your video is you understing the pulse of the normal listner who always doesnt care about the technicality. Keep Producing such videos. i am from india and hats off to you and your work
Hades blew me away, it did not expect it to sound this muddy, muffled and bloated, thought maybe it is bad unit, it reminded me of super cheap Panasonic earbuds I once had. I saw someone make this comment and it was perfect describtion on how it sounds "cheap car speakers with sub in the back" where you hear only muddy resonance.
So true. I don't understand this set either. I am a basshead and for me HADES sounds just not great, bordering bad. It is extremely drowned, boomy and muffled, no detail, no soundtrage. As a bass, basshead set it is even bad at that, bass is not clean, simply muddy, drowning over other frequencies. Car speakers with sub is perfect summary.
@@Ki-Bi Have to agree with you both here. Its bloated and muddy. I listen to Techno, DnB, Psytrance, House and Hip Hop and it just doesn't seem to fit any of those genres. My daily drivers are Fatfreq Maestro Minis, so I kinda like bass, just not this.
Well it's all about that sweet, sweet sub, clearly. That's probably why it's called Hades, because it goes low. While I wouldn't buy this one because I love treble I can think of at least two of my friends that would love it.
I own the Fudu, the QKZ HBB and Blon Z300. Despite using my thousand dollars IEM, I still grap the Fudu from time to time just enjoy the warmth of it. For me, the Fudu is more balanced compare to the QKZ HBB, it has less bass, but more air in the upper mid and treble, the vocals are more clear and lively. Plus the Fudu is a way more comfortable IEM. The nozzle is a bit too big on the HBB and the cable is pretty flimsy too. However, having said that, the QKZ HBB is definitely a good IEM for it's price, love the sound too.
The hype 2 with the poweramp eq app bakkwatan the 2nd tuning on cayin ru6 sounds so good its TOTL for me i cant guess better iems using galaxy s10 plus try it out boys its fantastic everything is balanced to perfection like a river it flows
Hades sound veiled as hell...qkz hbb sounds much better. Please make a review of the Ziigaat Doscinco, it looks very similar to the Fudu but with that much needed air and a bit more bass, could be a winner! I agree that HBB sounds more cohesive and more natural than Fudu which can sound piercing and funky at times depending on the track, could be that 4k spike. Top quality video as always, glad you are back.
When I was using Beats Solo back in 2015, all about that bass didn't care much about vocals or details of the track. Hades would have been a God sent. My taste has changed now. I look for a vocal forwardness, sparkle and detail, and of course, clean authorititave bass. QKZ X HBB would be my pick, compared to Hades. Just my opinion.
at his channel he said the hades is for whon liking low low end or basshead territory, go ahead to watch his vid that he explain it, never try the hades but from what some said that it is muffled i am sure it sound pretty like the sony XB75AP, it sound just muffled with non edm / hip hop music, and it shine with them, i think chris is targeting that segment.
It sounds like you enjoy bassy iems but not basshead iems. There's not enough up top for you so you crave something more balanced (closer to V than the L that this is). Everyone has their own preferences and I appreciate your honesty. Thank you for the demo! 👍
Are you going to get the Artti R2 for review? I have the R1 and it’s pretty good. Artti is side brand of Letshuoer. R2 is cheap around $40. You’re right about the HBB QKZ, it does sound the best. I had the Fudu and sent it back. Mine didn’t sound like yours. It had to laid back mids and didn’t like the b.a. timbre. Maybe I had a bad one.
You can have a bassy IEM, but this sacrificed to much in the mids and high end. The Legato didn't sound that great as well. By the way, any thoughts on the Thinksound set?
The fact that it's so blanketed oddly end up working for me, I fell asleep with em and when I woke up I didn't get hit with any jarring sharp sounds. I fuckin love mine, uncontrolled bass but very good for what it's supposed to be. Ended up refunding my Plutus Beast and keeping Hades instead I'm a treblehead btw, so I found it especially odd how much I enjoyed Hades
I have the legatos and I love them. I'm not upset with or at you for your opinion of them. I even agree with you about it's funk. It's like the Hades in that they shine in only a few genres. The other sets are about balance, being warm enough but not too much to fit in more genres
I dont have the hades but i have the rosefinch and even the rosefinch doesnt sound that muffled. Sure the mids and treble are recessed but not nearly that badly
tbh i prefer the hades over legato. but qkz sounds better to me compared to hades. definately its muffled. but it gives kind of a lofi feel to it which i would dig depending on mood.
Formerly, in HiFi Times, such a sound signature had a name: British HiFi. A really muffled, very warm sound. For instance B&W speakers had this sound. The opposite was German HiFi. A clear, very V-shaped sound. Today everything sounds in this manner. And will called also: Harman curve today. Hades sounds British, HBB and Fudu sounds German.
I just got the Hades just recently, and I love it. I think HBB has said in a recent video that the Hades was tuned for Bassheads, which he has successfully done so.
there is a difference between basshead and mudhead, this is a mudhead iem; there is just too much bleed... makes the qkz hbb look like a treble superstar, and its not.
for warm IEMs have you check Artti? I have the R1 and I am enjoying it, enough treble for vocals. Not basshead levels like the HBB QKZ. WOuld love hear your thoughts about Artti R1, R2, R3
This really proves just how >personal< iems and iem tuning really is. Originally I thought balance was always king, but now I can really see that after listening to the Hades for a while you can really get used to the warmth and texture of the bass, like sinking your feet into the warm sand on a sunny beach. It's like the comfort food of iems, where it's not even trying to compete with anything. Would love to hear more of this with other genres in a sound demo ;)
95 db sensitivity. Essentially they're muffling 85% of the audio spectrum, and you have to pump the current to get any volume, no? Dan, did you have difficulty volume matching the two models to do your sound comparos? PS, starting at 14:08 the Hades sound bites never appeared again... was that a mistake?
If I stopped playing it, it was on purpose so as to focus on the HBB and the Fudu (my personal favorites for “warm” IEMs). If I raise the volume too much on the Hades, it would just have too much bass. Though the vocals and the upper end would benefit from the raising of volume, my ears would suffer. Perhaps I need to mention that more too when discussing any bass heavy set. Same thing goes for the Fudu and HBB really. Bass hurts me when going too much. Idk if it’s safe or comfortable.
If you like the QKZxHBB you need to get your hands on a Blon Jojo. Biggest surprise for me in as long as I can remember. You may need some Spinfits or JVC Spiraldots to fit them properly though. Edit: Actually I remember you have the Jojo. I'm surprised it doesn't do the warm+detail better for you than the HBB. For me it hits just right.
the jojo has some wierd ringing in the upper treble which makes it annoying af. z300 is tuned the same from the upper mids down. and still those 2 dont do excess lushness the qkz hbb do. no winners, just preference. but its great a $20 set can do something a double/triple priced somwhatthesame tuned iem cant.
HI Dan, I really enjoyed watching your review. Here are my thoughts for what they are worth... I don't like the tuning of the Hades since the 1 kHz to 3 kHz region is so horribly scooped out. This was blatantly obvious when listening to the sound demos, and this is what I expected when looking its frequency response graphs on squiglink. Even though the Hades is an IEM which is clearly met for bassheads, I suspect that there is only going to be a subset of bassheads who might like the tuning of the Hades. I don't think of the QKZ x HBB as being a basshead IEM. Instead, I think of the HBB as an IEM which somewhat leans into the basshead territory. I don't listen to EDM and similar genres that much, yet the QKZ x HBB works quite well for these genres such that it sounded like I was at the actual venue and listening to a live performance. I did have to switch to wide bore eartips in order to somewhat tame the bass by around 2 dB in order to dial in the overly punchy bass to a somewhat lower level in order to suit my personal preferences for a bass boosted IEM. The wide bore eartips also improved the overall details. Since the QKZ x HBB is so affordable, it is a nice IEM to have in your arsenal for specific music genres or when watching some Netflix episodes and movies which were poorly mixed such that the audio was noticeably lacking in both the bass and lower midrange. For example, there was one episode of Star Trek: Strange New Words in which the audio was mixed rather poorly such that there was very weak lower midrange and very weak bass. I simply switched to the QKZ x HBB to mostly resolve the issue. In hindsight, I wish that I had kept the Kiwi Ears Quartet for this same purpose. It is so much faster and much more convenient to simply switch to a different set of IEMs instead of having to play around with parametric EQ in order to make some poorly mixed low budget movies or individual episodes of a Netflix series to actually sound good. I personally prefer the Ikko High-Ear C over the QKZ x HBB since it has noticeably better details in the upper midrange and treble even though both of these IEMs have fairly similar sound signatures. The Tangzu Fudu Verse 1 sounded rather nice even though it does not have quite as much bass and lower midrange emphasis as either the QKZ x HBB or the High-Ear C. Surprisingly, I did enjoy the 7 Hz Legato fairly well even though its upper midrange tuning is not quite my cup of tea. I can see why a lot of people do enjoy the Legato.
Hades is perfect IEM for my dogs library. He is very able to enjoy and appreciate the rhythm and bass aspect of music as animals usualy can, but some other things are too complex for him. I wish there was speacial eartips for him.
Bought the hades, as a base lover i was shocked. Not event good base for bassy tracks like EDM, hiphop, techno. Too muffled, no detail, immaging & soundstage at all. At this price, worse than a car sub, omg.
Thanks a bunch for this review. I’ve been waiting to buy hades as a sort of upgrade over qkz hbb that i also have and gives me goosebumps on the value for money front. I prefer it over my og hbb olinas. But man this video just mafe me realise qkz hbb is brilliant and king in this comparison. Granted hades is a niche within a niche (more bass in warm bass arena), but again, it shouldn’t come at the cost of so much muffle. Even if I’m not expecting laser sharp imaging or crystal clear natural vocals, it feels DEFECTIVE and not tonally different. The graph held a lot of promise in midrange, but irl not really. He did give a lot of disclaimers about the hades in his video, that vocal lovers will get their panties in the vag, but i dont reckon he said bass lovers with an eye (ear) for quality bass upfront that INTEGRATES with overall audio clarity will also get their panties in the 🐈. He’s amazing and honest for most part, and I really like his audio signature. But this feels like a dud. Thanks for the review man. You just saved my money.
you know, I realize a lot of you were not alive then, but it sounds like some 12" woofer speakers from the 1970s... with cheap paper tweeters... like $100 ones.
you might want to consider a 2nd attempt with a short video on demo-ing with heavy basshead tracks? Kendrick Lamar. The Weeknd. Busta Rhymes. Even EDM. Like from David Guetta. Avicii. Martin Garrix. Armin Van Buuren, etc. HBB released a video on launch day explaining the rationale behind this set. It's a heavy Basshead set for a very specific target niche. It's not suppose to be versatile at all.
Aww no MEST2 for comparision. The tuning is indeed weird. Maybe the shell is cracked (too much venting). Maybe it is supposed to be worn with a bad sealing eartip. Maybe people do actually like Raycons without the treble peak. Those are the only reasons I can think of.
I have the HBB(not the Khan) and i absolutely hate it… and Hades sound… muffled as you said.. its too bass heavy… even for EDM lovers.. i need a middle ground man… 🤌🏽
on the other side, i thank very much to HBB with his Hades because with his Hades suddenly all my KZ iems ZSN ZES EDS which in 🗑️ trash-bin now become shine again!
Lets be honest- none of them sound good. The QKZ x HBB is probably the best considering an amazing price but i would rather dont listen to the music at all than through any of these iems. My take on this matter is as follows- buy one of these: Samsungs Buds 2 Pro, Thruthear Nova, cheaper Thruthear Zero Red or just save for a proper flagship.
EDIT:: Please check out the new take on the Hades being amazing for Hip Hop and R&B. 👇🏻
ruclips.net/video/86-B_fkcJ-U/видео.htmlsi=Z1vLhnD0D-3u8qAi
Obviously I should just watch his video if I would like to understand his intentions. That’s on me. I shouldn’t have asked for him to talk to me or say something here when I can check what he says, for myself, first!
But thank you in any case to everyone who has commented on his behalf who follow his videos closely and understand his target audience and intentions well. Thank you for giving me that insight despite my lack of due diligence to watch him for myself. My life is busy and I really don’t watch what other reviewers produce at all anymore. I’m a reviewer hermit who would rather just talk to the other reviewer if I could. But still, in this case I really should watch him. I’m sure he’s busy too 🙇🏻♂️
Though I do have to say, for people saying this set isn’t meant for me and that I shouldn’t review it or say my opinion…. What? My take as a reviewer is that I’m just one person sharing my own personal tastes. The set may be tuned for bass heads and for a specific set of genres, but I’m still going to say if I don’t like it personally. Even if I try bass heavy music, I still haven’t found joy in it.
And if I do pump up the volume as people suggest so that I could hear the upper end more, and this is a problem with any bass heavy set including the likes of QKZ HBB and FUDU, then the bass is just way too ear damaging loud for me. The idea that we need to dial the volume up to enjoy the recessed upper ends on warm sets is just asking for hearing loss and discomfort. It hurts. So no, I’m not listening past the point of pain on any set I try. And, from what I recall, HBB has said he doesn’t listen to music beyond 80 dB himself (if it’s higher than that you can correct me, but there WAS a limit he set for himself for the sake of hearing protection).
I am currently testing tracks on the Hades as we speak here:
music.apple.com/us/playlist/hades-test/pl.u-926duxYxKlo
Just the fact that you realised that it probably was something with it that you probably missed gives you lots of respect imo. Others may have missed or are going to miss this completely and just crap on it.
Personally I love the legato and Khan for what I listen to, and I've ordered the Hades. :) I should probably order the QKZxHBB aswell. 😊
Thanks for your review!
My Mensch yeah
Some homework was in order,you know his genre and music specific and targeted to that
I'm not a fan of most of his library, however I don't have a set like this,so I'll be ordering it.
I have a bunch of Harmon correct tuning!!!!😮
For some perspective... this is like a new restaurant opened up featuring the hottest peppers in the world and a food critic who doesn’t like hot and spicy was the one sent to do a review…
@@lololololololol444 This is a great analogy. Now, just to be a devil’s advocate here, could someone go in to that restaurant, someone who DOES want very hot food, and say they still don’t enjoy that much spice? Could it still be valid to say they think the spice overshadowed the rest of the dishes’ flavors too much? 🤔
Now as it turns out, I’ve been listening to it again on a variety of spicy centric dishes (hip hop, rap, EDM), and I do have to say I’ve come more around to finding the joys there. There’s a review coming 😊
Buuuut. It still isn’t perfect. More to come!
If you haven't i think watching his video about the set explains what the intent with the set was the best. A set for the basshead not just enjoying a bit of extra bass. And was not made to be an allrounder. I personally really respect him for tuning a set for fun in a category of audio he enjoys as well, knowing it won't be something everyone is interested in and that will not get the best reviews from people comparing and using it outside of it's intend
He was trying to recreate a fun car audio sound. It is intentionally very bass forward. It’s not intended to be very nuanced or an audiophile sound. It’s meant for Hip Hop, R&B, and maybe heavy rock music. So even the track you are using doesn’t exactly fit the criteria for what it was made for.
Good to know! I’ll try to listen to more hip hop and stuff. But man, idk. I still scratch my head on anything I’ve tried so far and wonder if I, personally, can find that joy.
But I’m very glad you shared what kind of music was intended to be enjoyed. I’m sure someone will dig it. I just haven’t, yet, found that joy myself.
@@dansaudioreviews definitely not for everyone.
@@dansaudioreviewsmaybe artists like XXXTENTACION, Craig David, Mac Miller etc. They are kind of melodic for hiphop or rap. But I think Hades is made for some kind of extreme bass boosted music, not sure...
I'd try hyper techno, DnB, jungle and such non-vocal bass heavy music. :)
Are they also intended for Edm?
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I found the QKZ x hbb to be surprisingly versatile for being warm, it's a beautiful bit of kit, I felt that warmth through your recordings so i wanted it and I need to pull that set out again but I'm finding it hard to take my cca rhapsody out of my ears, the BA drivers are done so well for a cheap set and the bass kicks with 1&2 up. It can occasionally sound a bit unrefined, but for its price I can't complain. It is an iem you might need to EQ.
There's another set that's said to be tonally very good for about $30 named the EPZ Q1 pro. I blind bought. 😅 Sometimes I like a mystery. But every review ive heard or read is very positive.
Of all of the sets in this video, I think the Fudu sounds the best... it's amazing how good the HBB sounds for the price, but the Fudu just sounds more complete to me 😊
I get why you like the Fudu, but I prefer the HBB... the reason is the fudu is very v shape, like 2020 KZs. The HBB has less bass impact than Fudu, but also less irritating treble. In an odd way the HBB is easier to listen to.
@@larrydunn4626 I have both the FUDU and a few 2020 era V monsters including a few KZs, I can assure you that the treble on the FUDU is not like the typical V tuned IEMs, it present but rolled off and smooth. But the FUDU is not for everyone, it really reminds me of listening to speakers running off of an old tube amp.
Good to see You back in track, nobody does what You do. your soundbites in between comentary are amazing.
I think You should do the demos with hip hop or EDM, that are the kind of genre intended for this IEM
All your demos here on Hades sound great if u turn up the volume slightly higher than normal. U will hear the bass and also the vocal, although the vocal takes a step backwards/recessed. The bass is the focus here; That’s the intention . U don’t hear the overly bright treble which u will get from Qkz HBB, Legato or the Fudu with the volume turned up. ❤ Yeah I Ithink I like it because this is the only iem that allows u to hear at higher volume without getting pierced by the treble. 🙏✌️👍🥰 HBB is a genius in this respect. He does it for the Bass. 😊
I listen to the last demo, and Wow! The rumble from Hades is the best. It’s the most prominent among the rest, sitting at the front seat. Not even Legato can hold a candle to it. If you just want to seat back and relax, surrounded by warm pervading bass, this is the one. Forget about the treble details , it’s not about that. Bass is the king. 👑
I have neutral sounding iem, V shaped fun sounding iem, bright sounding iem, treble focused iem, bassy iem. All of these will sound horrible if I turned up the volume ( treble gets in the way), or becomes too distracting) . I believe Basshead Hades takes care of all of that; Treble can’t invade. 😁 It’s either brightness or darkness, no in between. 😇😎
Except Qkz hbb doesn’t really have bright treble at all, at any volume.
@@ameenSW Yeah I don’t remember hearing any sharp treble with my X HBB. This demo here sounds pretty spicy. He could have done some tuning for the comparison.
@@cadmiumpureland Hi, I think it's worth ordering this hades or qkz x hbb earphone, what you described with high volume and a lot of high frequencies is very annoying for me, I'm hard of hearing and I want to hear at high volume with comfort and less high frequencies, which the earphone listens to apple earpods and hyperx cloud mix there are a lot of high frequencies at high volumes with a Megatron DAC and I'm not comfortable, I think I just found the earphone that I need, but I also think which one is better to order qkz x hbb or hades anyway, I also want to listen to high frequencies but not so annoying and comfortable))
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Reminds me of mdr-xb950b1. So warm & muffled that almost ruin sound but in exchange deliver the bass.
This set, the Hades, it’s meant for EDM, house, deep house, progressive techno, trance, Hip Hop, R&B, heavy rock and metal...that's why it sounds weird in very vocal forward generes. As slothninja5180 said, HBB is trying to recreate a very "subwoofer car-audioish" kind of sound that rumbles in your ears :)
Hey man your are amazing and doing wonderful work. I am confused alot in buying iem and i started watching your videos from last one week now thanks man for being Honest Raw and in your review the best part of your video is you understing the pulse of the normal listner who always doesnt care about the technicality. Keep Producing such videos. i am from india and hats off to you and your work
Hades blew me away, it did not expect it to sound this muddy, muffled and bloated, thought maybe it is bad unit, it reminded me of super cheap Panasonic earbuds I once had. I saw someone make this comment and it was perfect describtion on how it sounds "cheap car speakers with sub in the back" where you hear only muddy resonance.
So true. I don't understand this set either. I am a basshead and for me HADES sounds just not great, bordering bad. It is extremely drowned, boomy and muffled, no detail, no soundtrage. As a bass, basshead set it is even bad at that, bass is not clean, simply muddy, drowning over other frequencies. Car speakers with sub is perfect summary.
@@Ki-Bi Have to agree with you both here. Its bloated and muddy. I listen to Techno, DnB, Psytrance, House and Hip Hop and it just doesn't seem to fit any of those genres. My daily drivers are Fatfreq Maestro Minis, so I kinda like bass, just not this.
It can be QC problem, its QKZ at the end of the day
Great video, Dan. Agree 100%. FUDU is still one of my favorites.
Thank you so much. You are an excellent reviewer with a wonderful personality. I subscribed.
Got the fudu recently, loving it so far..
Well it's all about that sweet, sweet sub, clearly. That's probably why it's called Hades, because it goes low. While I wouldn't buy this one because I love treble I can think of at least two of my friends that would love it.
I might have to look at getting the Fudu. Thanks Dan!
the HBB is so freaking good, watching this and the 7hz zero2 video convinced me i need to buy a pair of the HBB, its so amazing.
Do not buy 7hz zero 2..its very harsh..not good
@@anirudhaaryan6450i already have it, its really good with an EQ, if you dont have the ability to EQ then you shouldnt buy IEM at all
I own the Fudu, the QKZ HBB and Blon Z300. Despite using my thousand dollars IEM, I still grap the Fudu from time to time just enjoy the warmth of it. For me, the Fudu is more balanced compare to the QKZ HBB, it has less bass, but more air in the upper mid and treble, the vocals are more clear and lively. Plus the Fudu is a way more comfortable IEM. The nozzle is a bit too big on the HBB and the cable is pretty flimsy too. However, having said that, the QKZ HBB is definitely a good IEM for it's price, love the sound too.
Amazing tracks! Great review!
15:17 BA timbre so obvious, but bass not as smoothen out as on the QKZ HBB
The hype 2 with the poweramp eq app bakkwatan the 2nd tuning on cayin ru6 sounds so good its TOTL for me i cant guess better iems using galaxy s10 plus try it out boys its fantastic everything is balanced to perfection like a river it flows
Maybe, just maybe it’s good with techno and house music?
QKZ HBB is really illegal too good and crazy cheap, for 10$. I would say its Fatfreq Maestro SE grandson.😂
Hades sound veiled as hell...qkz hbb sounds much better. Please make a review of the Ziigaat Doscinco, it looks very similar to the Fudu but with that much needed air and a bit more bass, could be a winner! I agree that HBB sounds more cohesive and more natural than Fudu which can sound piercing and funky at times depending on the track, could be that 4k spike. Top quality video as always, glad you are back.
When I was using Beats Solo back in 2015, all about that bass didn't care much about vocals or details of the track. Hades would have been a God sent. My taste has changed now. I look for a vocal forwardness, sparkle and detail, and of course, clean authorititave bass. QKZ X HBB would be my pick, compared to Hades. Just my opinion.
The hbb sounds good for it's price. The hades on the other hand, I can't seem to pin point exactly what its intention is.
at his channel he said the hades is for whon liking low low end or basshead territory, go ahead to watch his vid that he explain it, never try the hades but from what some said that it is muffled i am sure it sound pretty like the sony XB75AP, it sound just muffled with non edm / hip hop music, and it shine with them, i think chris is targeting that segment.
Castor Bass already got this tuning to a tee for just like $10, maybe a 2-3db increase in mids would be nice but 1 flaw for a $10 set is pretty good.
It sounds like you enjoy bassy iems but not basshead iems. There's not enough up top for you so you crave something more balanced (closer to V than the L that this is). Everyone has their own preferences and I appreciate your honesty. Thank you for the demo! 👍
Are you going to get the Artti R2 for review? I have the R1 and it’s pretty good. Artti is side brand of Letshuoer. R2 is cheap around $40. You’re right about the HBB QKZ, it does sound the best. I had the Fudu and sent it back. Mine didn’t sound like yours. It had to laid back mids and didn’t like the b.a. timbre. Maybe I had a bad one.
You can have a bassy IEM, but this sacrificed to much in the mids and high end. The Legato didn't sound that great as well. By the way, any thoughts on the Thinksound set?
I would love to see a live stream discussion between both your channels that would be great
You’ve got to remember, HBB recommended the Fearless Audio Roland which also had no highs.
The fact that it's so blanketed oddly end up working for me, I fell asleep with em and when I woke up I didn't get hit with any jarring sharp sounds. I fuckin love mine, uncontrolled bass but very good for what it's supposed to be. Ended up refunding my Plutus Beast and keeping Hades instead
I'm a treblehead btw, so I found it especially odd how much I enjoyed Hades
I have the legatos and I love them. I'm not upset with or at you for your opinion of them. I even agree with you about it's funk. It's like the Hades in that they shine in only a few genres. The other sets are about balance, being warm enough but not too much to fit in more genres
its a good late at night falling asleep iem. no harshness just fat bass lol. i like them tbh idky
One of the best reviewer
Hey Dan, any chance you would do a sound demo on the Kefine Delcis? Only of convenient. Thanks.
I dont have the hades but i have the rosefinch and even the rosefinch doesnt sound that muffled. Sure the mids and treble are recessed but not nearly that badly
This iem is for bass head! And it is awesome with prodigy music.
tbh i prefer the hades over legato. but qkz sounds better to me compared to hades. definately its muffled. but it gives kind of a lofi feel to it which i would dig depending on mood.
Formerly, in HiFi Times, such a sound signature had a name: British HiFi. A really muffled, very warm sound. For instance B&W speakers had this sound. The opposite was German HiFi. A clear, very V-shaped sound. Today everything sounds in this manner. And will called also: Harman curve today. Hades sounds British, HBB and Fudu sounds German.
I wonder what the 2nd wave Black Metal would sound on Hades. Maybe it would tame some of that high-pitched static and give it more body?! 🫤
Hi Dan, I am loving the QKZ HBB but its out of stock forever everywhere. Should i buy the blon hbb z300 for this sound
I seem to still see it on linsoul (affiliate link):
www.linsoul.com/products/qkz-x-hbb?variant=43369937305817&sca_ref=1723281.uURKdX74u0
In my opinion, QKZ HBB is fine but too dark for me while the Hades is more darker than that.
Let me buy it to confirm...
some peeps might enjoy these i can see the target market for this and those people that just want bass and nothing else :3
I just got the Hades just recently, and I love it. I think HBB has said in a recent video that the Hades was tuned for Bassheads, which he has successfully done so.
Fair enough!
there is a difference between basshead and mudhead, this is a mudhead iem; there is just too much bleed... makes the qkz hbb look like a treble superstar, and its not.
@@rsvp9816 : Yeah... HBB said there would be people like you. To each his/her own. 💕💞
im literally a basshead, I only listen to EDM. as long as you enjoy it, you're getting ur money's worth. sorry if I pissed u off.
depends on the volume@@rsvp9816
for warm IEMs have you check Artti? I have the R1 and I am enjoying it, enough treble for vocals. Not basshead levels like the HBB QKZ. WOuld love hear your thoughts about Artti R1, R2, R3
i Love Qkz x Hbb 😍 next for Hades 😊
This really proves just how >personal< iems and iem tuning really is. Originally I thought balance was always king, but now I can really see that after listening to the Hades for a while you can really get used to the warmth and texture of the bass, like sinking your feet into the warm sand on a sunny beach. It's like the comfort food of iems, where it's not even trying to compete with anything.
Would love to hear more of this with other genres in a sound demo ;)
Nice vid, as usual. Whats the name of that last track?
What is warmer than warm? I think he was going for thud not mud. Have to hear it against my library.
reminds me of when my neighbour haves a party in the weekend :)
95 db sensitivity. Essentially they're muffling 85% of the audio spectrum, and you have to pump the current to get any volume, no? Dan, did you have difficulty volume matching the two models to do your sound comparos? PS, starting at 14:08 the Hades sound bites never appeared again... was that a mistake?
If I stopped playing it, it was on purpose so as to focus on the HBB and the Fudu (my personal favorites for “warm” IEMs).
If I raise the volume too much on the Hades, it would just have too much bass. Though the vocals and the upper end would benefit from the raising of volume, my ears would suffer. Perhaps I need to mention that more too when discussing any bass heavy set.
Same thing goes for the Fudu and HBB really. Bass hurts me when going too much. Idk if it’s safe or comfortable.
If you like the QKZxHBB you need to get your hands on a Blon Jojo. Biggest surprise for me in as long as I can remember. You may need some Spinfits or JVC Spiraldots to fit them properly though.
Edit: Actually I remember you have the Jojo. I'm surprised it doesn't do the warm+detail better for you than the HBB. For me it hits just right.
the jojo has some wierd ringing in the upper treble which makes it annoying af. z300 is tuned the same from the upper mids down. and still those 2 dont do excess lushness the qkz hbb do. no winners, just preference. but its great a $20 set can do something a double/triple priced somwhatthesame tuned iem cant.
Castor Bass? Very underrated and i think
The fudu is the clear winner here imo
sounds shrill
After changing to HBB, the first sound was unnaturally muffled as if it was under a pillow
Your take on Kinera PhoenixCall please
Agreed. I bought the Hades and was shocked. All they had to do was spend more time on the tuning to make it good. Very dissapointed.
HI Dan, I really enjoyed watching your review. Here are my thoughts for what they are worth...
I don't like the tuning of the Hades since the 1 kHz to 3 kHz region is so horribly scooped out. This was blatantly obvious when listening to the sound demos, and this is what I expected when looking its frequency response graphs on squiglink. Even though the Hades is an IEM which is clearly met for bassheads, I suspect that there is only going to be a subset of bassheads who might like the tuning of the Hades. I don't think of the QKZ x HBB as being a basshead IEM. Instead, I think of the HBB as an IEM which somewhat leans into the basshead territory.
I don't listen to EDM and similar genres that much, yet the QKZ x HBB works quite well for these genres such that it sounded like I was at the actual venue and listening to a live performance. I did have to switch to wide bore eartips in order to somewhat tame the bass by around 2 dB in order to dial in the overly punchy bass to a somewhat lower level in order to suit my personal preferences for a bass boosted IEM. The wide bore eartips also improved the overall details. Since the QKZ x HBB is so affordable, it is a nice IEM to have in your arsenal for specific music genres or when watching some Netflix episodes and movies which were poorly mixed such that the audio was noticeably lacking in both the bass and lower midrange. For example, there was one episode of Star Trek: Strange New Words in which the audio was mixed rather poorly such that there was very weak lower midrange and very weak bass. I simply switched to the QKZ x HBB to mostly resolve the issue. In hindsight, I wish that I had kept the Kiwi Ears Quartet for this same purpose. It is so much faster and much more convenient to simply switch to a different set of IEMs instead of having to play around with parametric EQ in order to make some poorly mixed low budget movies or individual episodes of a Netflix series to actually sound good.
I personally prefer the Ikko High-Ear C over the QKZ x HBB since it has noticeably better details in the upper midrange and treble even though both of these IEMs have fairly similar sound signatures. The Tangzu Fudu Verse 1 sounded rather nice even though it does not have quite as much bass and lower midrange emphasis as either the QKZ x HBB or the High-Ear C. Surprisingly, I did enjoy the 7 Hz Legato fairly well even though its upper midrange tuning is not quite my cup of tea. I can see why a lot of people do enjoy the Legato.
Dan in your opinion what it's better qkz hbb or tripowin mele?
Look at the Mele 2k-6k on the graph... so, so different to the hbb.
Hades is perfect IEM for my dogs library. He is very able to enjoy and appreciate the rhythm and bass aspect of music as animals usualy can, but some other things are too complex for him. I wish there was speacial eartips for him.
Maybe good for trance
naw its not, too muffled. look at the juzear clear for trance.
How do I find the discord? Links expired?
Hades sounds like a bloated mess, I have no idea why HBB released this especially when he already had a bassy IEM with QKZ in his current portfolio.
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Bought the hades, as a base lover i was shocked. Not event good base for bassy tracks like EDM, hiphop, techno. Too muffled, no detail, immaging & soundstage at all. At this price, worse than a car sub, omg.
Thanks a bunch for this review. I’ve been waiting to buy hades as a sort of upgrade over qkz hbb that i also have and gives me goosebumps on the value for money front. I prefer it over my og hbb olinas. But man this video just mafe me realise qkz hbb is brilliant and king in this comparison.
Granted hades is a niche within a niche (more bass in warm bass arena), but again, it shouldn’t come at the cost of so much muffle. Even if I’m not expecting laser sharp imaging or crystal clear natural vocals, it feels DEFECTIVE and not tonally different. The graph held a lot of promise in midrange, but irl not really.
He did give a lot of disclaimers about the hades in his video, that vocal lovers will get their panties in the vag, but i dont reckon he said bass lovers with an eye (ear) for quality bass upfront that INTEGRATES with overall audio clarity will also get their panties in the 🐈.
He’s amazing and honest for most part, and I really like his audio signature. But this feels like a dud.
Thanks for the review man. You just saved my money.
oooh the HBB posse coming after you. worse than swifties.
you know, I realize a lot of you were not alive then, but it sounds like some 12" woofer speakers from the 1970s... with cheap paper tweeters... like $100 ones.
you might want to consider a 2nd attempt with a short video on demo-ing with heavy basshead tracks? Kendrick Lamar. The Weeknd. Busta Rhymes. Even EDM. Like from David Guetta. Avicii. Martin Garrix. Armin Van Buuren, etc.
HBB released a video on launch day explaining the rationale behind this set. It's a heavy Basshead set for a very specific target niche. It's not suppose to be versatile at all.
Aww no MEST2 for comparision. The tuning is indeed weird. Maybe the shell is cracked (too much venting). Maybe it is supposed to be worn with a bad sealing eartip. Maybe people do actually like Raycons without the treble peak. Those are the only reasons I can think of.
Cmon man, test some 2PAC songs, that tuning is not meant to be good overall, is meant to be bassy with bassy tracks
Sounds like I need to record a new playlist for this. Maybe a short needs to come soon. Will consider. Thank you!
But…I just hear pillows 😓
@@dansaudioreviews, would wait for you.
First ❤, as expected its mud
Bass head iem. You should keep that in mind
Qkz hbb is very much v shape. I cannot stand it without eq
People buy colabs because they're hyped like crazy by youtubers, get that mula. It's sad for me as a consumer.
for real, we pay a markup for the collab, and this cable is not even worth 10 bucks. its a relative gouge.
I have the HBB(not the Khan) and i absolutely hate it… and Hades sound… muffled as you said.. its too bass heavy… even for EDM lovers.. i need a middle ground man… 🤌🏽
on the other side, i thank very much to HBB with his Hades because with his Hades suddenly all my KZ iems ZSN ZES EDS which in 🗑️ trash-bin now become shine again!
Lets be honest- none of them sound good. The QKZ x HBB is probably the best considering an amazing price but i would rather dont listen to the music at all than through any of these iems. My take on this matter is as follows- buy one of these: Samsungs Buds 2 Pro, Thruthear Nova, cheaper Thruthear Zero Red or just save for a proper flagship.