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Rhett, a really great video. Briefly sharing my 2c: was suffering from the same problem, more or less; ended up giving up on music & guitar for 10+ years. I've resumed recently (coincidentally, with the advent of your YT channel, ha ha!), and was back to the same gruelling sensation, but forced myself to confront it. Yup, I still suck, but what has helped me is trying to shift away from thinking about being a guitar player, to being a musician, or a student of music (as I like telling myself). A lot has changed since I made that shift, and helped me refocus on music and exploring it, rather than gaining & mastering a skill (playing the instrument). Also, Tom Bukovac with his "serve the song" approach has been helping me a lot. It's really comforting to see that kind of video, so kudos to you & thank you!
In the Air Tonight was smokin'! Be the driver, man, and make your guitar heard. Write great songs, great riffs, that we can actually sing (unlike a Malmsteen solo or whatever...). Your band kicks ass, and so do you, be the best together.
I hate to agree with you about not being the best in the room but the sauce is very strong with those guys. That being said you got the touch bro, keep it up and I think you will be one of the best in your era.
I feel like some people kind of miss the point of this, it's not Rhett saying he's a bad guitarist/musician in any way, it's him saying there is a lot to learn from the musicians around him and thats a great mindset to have as a musician I think. Just because you aren't an expert at everything doesn't mean you're bad. Great video as always!
Petrus Nordh one great thing about the guitar, is that everyone play’s different, there is always something more to learn on the guitar, and as long as you keep learning stuff new songs, riffs,the more you memorize the better,
I had to remove myself from playing at church. It affected me spiritually and took me to a place that changed me and started to be affected by others, and not in a good way. Since that time I have grown much closer to The Lord and feel I have matured both spiritually and mentally. Basically it was a learning experience to keep my eyes on Him and Him alone. Enjoy your videos brother. Gary in Asheville NC
He keeps hinting at it here and on the podcast, but I don't think I've ever heard it. I'm a church player and former worship pastor, so I'm especially interested.
@@kentonschroer2347 That's fair, and a good call. Sometimes, though, we protect our own in the church a little too much and mistreat people in the name of church work. The pastor at my first church choir job said it best- the church will try to take advantage of you... don't let us do that.
dkerwood1 So true. Unfortunately one of the worst things that plague pastors is overwork. Church culture is all about who can work more and harder. In terms of “corporate culture” it’s some of the worst that you can be in. Not always, but you’re right they have no issue taking advantage of people. However, I’ve worked with some of the best leaders in my life doing that work. Peace!
@@ShamanicSavant Being 'smart' and being a self proclaimed 'intellectual' are different things. There is overlap but the two are not mutually exclusive.
I’m 33. Started playing two years ago. I went to a bar not knowing it was an open mic. Talked to some of the old timers about a lesson. Now those open mics are the only place I get to play outside of my house. I consider my time at the jams more of a lesson than a performance now. I learn soooo much in a 3-5 song set. Then I go home and practice what I learned. The guys aren’t easy on me either. 9 times out of 10 when I go back to showcase what I’ve learned and practiced, they show me something completely different and the cycle continues. I absolutely love being around better musicians!
Rhett, listen man. I play guitar for more than 20 years now. I barely had lessons, I didn't graduate from a music school or something like that. But I play my ass of and try to be the best I can. I always saw myself to be an average player at best. When you say that you, a graduate, a professional, an influencer, are just "average" , that means me and all my fellows feel below average. What I want to say is that being humble is important - and you are - but at the same time one easily could feel demoted by hearing professionals talking themselves down. That's all. Stay great and well, greetings from Germany.
It's not about being the best. It's about being the best you. And every video I watch and hear you plug into an amp, I hear Rhett Shull. And I think you do a damn fine job at that :) keep up the good work
I just caught your comment while checking out the video and I just had to tell you that that's some good advice right there... "It's not about being the best. It's about being the best you." , Cheers!
I've told students and friends the same thing for years. The idea is to be the best you not the best. It's hard not to judge yourself against other players, but you can't do it and stay sane, ha. If I hear someone playing something I can't yet play, I find myself saying "good it can be done, not I can't do it or worst I can never do it. Look at all you've done to this point. The beauty in playing any instrument is you can still grow and be better, but you have to appreciate where you are. Remember you are playing, ha, not working...
I’ve heard Joe Bonamassa say music is not a competition. That always helped me lose the ego. A guitarist can be at many different levels and still sound great. Age helped me as well. That and realizing I was never going to be a rock star.
I've been saying this for years. It can be scary sometimes and I can be easily intimidated, but it really is the only way to truly develop & grow... Having said that, I have no time for laziness or complacency. If you are not willing to challenge yourself, I'm out. I have left bands because a member just wanted to use it as an excuse to hang out, party, etc. and basically "phone it in". If that is you, don't waste my time!
I love this band. You and Mr. Beato inspire me. I don't play with other people, I don't have the connections. I learn for me, but sometimes I want more than just being a living room guitarist. Keep these little chats up, You are lighting fires under people to perform better. Thank you.
Put out a Craigslist ad. It worked for me on my first try. I recently moved to Raleigh and now I have a little garage band that I jam with. At the least use jamming tracks to practice with. I play with them everyday. My playing improved massively from this.
100% agree. Once I accepted the intimidating feeling, I actually learned that I grow waaayyyy more when I'm the worst and around much better. They don't judge me because I'm worse than them. They just enjoy playing together
Hey Rhett. One year ago a friend of mine told me he needed a bass player for his band and jokingly offered me to join even though I never played the instrument before. Not willing to let that joke go I grabbed my girfriends bass and practiced my ass off. 2 weeks later we played at very small low stakes open mic where I just hit root notes on every bar (insert bass player joke here). Musically it was pretty bad but I had a ton of fun regardless. I am the worst player in my band for a year now and it has been nothing but inspiring. I learned so much more then I ever could have on my own. The sentiment might be cliche but being the worst player in a band has made a dream come true for me of performing live music for people... So yeah sorry for rambling. Nice video, keep up the good work and I'm looking forward to the next backstage live.
@@lloydster9000 thanks, I will. Playing the bass definitly made me appreciate music in a different way so I'm looking forward to many years of learning and growing
Thanks for the openness and honesty. Your desire to encourage others to grow is great. I also appreciate the fact you used while recalling your experience at the church. It sounds pretty rough and even painful. I'm sorry you had to go through that. Blessings on you.
I agree. I’ve been there, Rhett. I play at church, and years ago, I was the electric player. Then one evening at rehearsal, a guy was there with a gig bag on his back. Had an Ibanez RG series in there. Stunning player. Made me look like a kid in my first year of lessons, and I’d been playing close to 20 years at that time. I knew I was sloppy in my approach, didn’t even know what theory was, and lived off the pentatonic scales, in 2 positions. I’d venture outside of those with success, but not without an occasional bad note. I was ready to quit after a couple weeks. I liked the guy enough. Not a threatening bone in his body. Not showy. Just better. I stuck it out, and he became one of my closest friends, and more than that, he taught me to be the best me without even trying. I’m totally fine being the worst player. I might just learn something.
Rhett, if you were trying to make a video that resonates with just about every swingin ‘ sirloin that’s out there...you’ve done it! I’ve found that over the years, having played with many different people, some of which were monster players, there is nothing better than playing with people that you genuinely like. People you can have laughs with and have a good time playing as well. Players that are on the “ same page” with musically as well as socially. Through a weird circumstance of throwing the dice, I’ve finally found this, and it makes all the difference in the world. No one in our band is a virtuoso, but all are competent, and it just...works. I’m sure many of us have played with folks who were great players, but we just didn’t mesh with even when the music was good. Talent is one thing ( a very big thing) but having fun making music, and getting it done, is what it’s all about. You’ve got a high quality channel. Thanks for consistently providing cool content.
Hey Rhett. Loved this video. I’m not a musician, I’m a theatre artist, but creating and growing, telling stories, and connecting is what it’s all about. I have so much respect and appreciation for the healing and courage that pervades here. Hearing of your church experience resonated with me, as I went through a traumatic professional experience that’s haunted me for a few years now. The incident was both my fault and not my fault, but I’m so hard on myself that I put it all on me (as did others). It hurt so much it paralyzed me. Your video has helped. Thanks! 🙏
Dang Rhett! Calling me out like that!!! I was happy thinking I was growing in my little comfort zone! This really resonated with me. Im more of a singer than a guitar player, and in music school it definitely felt a lot like a competition. I was always after the solo, who could sing the highest, who was faster and more accurate, it really didnt feel like a collaboration. Now that I'm out of school and I'm trying to be a working musician, its been a shift looking at other musicians as collaborators instead of competitors. Goes to show you can't learn everything in school! Thanks for the video!
I’ve been playing professionally since 1966 and have made my living at it most of that time. There was a period when I had to look at my circumstances and move to a more stable livelihood, though I was still gigging whenever my time would allow. You’ve made these points so well; thoughtful and well expressed, with a positive outlook. As a guitar teacher and player for 64 years I concur with all of it ...1) Playing with better players than you is a lot like sports: You get better because you learn from them and aspire to their level when you see it’s attainable. Like playing golf or tennis with a better foursome, doubles partner, or having a great singles player school you. You get better! 2) It’s a marathon, not a sprint. A life in Music (or anything you choose) is a journey and meant to taken step by step. 3) You can’t be (or play like) someone else. We are who we are, and it’s to be celebrated not hidden. 4) Take a chance when offered and don’t be afraid to do that. Nervousness is natural but actual fear can be debilitating and harmful to growth. Do it! 5) Be confident in what you CAN do and don’t worry about what you CAN’T. It’s a fool’s errand ... Great video, Rhett. I hope folks take what you say to heart.
As a worship leader (and obviously not knowing the exact circumstances of your church gig) I really feel for you. That’s just not the way it should be in the church. We should be the exact opposite - warm, forgiving, wanting to give and build up everyone instead of using people, genuine, real, and merciful. It hurts my heart when I hear about church situations like I get the sense yours was. Church should feel like family, not business.
Rhett, this is one of the best videos you've ever done. Such an important message, and one that I wish all the vibey players I've dealt with over the years would watch. (Oddly, most of those guys WERE the best players in the room; it's just that they apparently didn't have the self confidence to go along with it, and certainly not enough to remain a generous musical partner.)
@4:43 A metaphor for life. I used to race dirt bikes. I always sought out guys faster than me to hang out and practice with. As a mechanic and woodworker, I would find the "old hands" and learn from them. My goals were not to be the best at anything, but to be regarded as having learned from the best, or even mentioned among the best. The best rewards I've ever recieved were mere recognition _from_ the best. All who have become or are the best is because they stand on the shoulders of giants that preceeded them. It also has the benefit of teaching humility and a great ego check. In short, those we recognize as being the best are actually very good _students_ of the best.
I love being the worst player in the room but like you I wasn't always like that. It took years and then I started ti listen to those players and for the most part I realized the best players tend to be the most humble and willing to share their knowledge. After I got over that intimidation I was feeling I just started to try to soak it all in every time I get to play with these people who I admire. It's made me more than just a better musician. It's made me a better person and more willing to encourage others who are in the position I once was in. I'm still more often then not the worst player in the room but now I don't let that get to me as much because at least I'm still in the room and I must be good enough to at least keep being invited to be in the room with these amazing players ya know. Plus I know that nobody is more critical of my playing as I am so it keeps me on my toes and humble. Great video Rhett!!!
Overcoming your ego. Being nervous around other players. I totally get that. It is something I am dealing with. It is nice to hear it from someone like yourself. Great advice. I really enjoy your videos/vlogs. Keep cranking them out!
This is a great topic. Ill just speak for myself, after playing quite awhile and seeing what all these people are doing with their guitars can get very discouraging. .. Almost to the point of quitting. Ive been in ruts and would stop playing. Usually within a week I would get the itch and just have to pick up and play. It can be very discouraging also when a band you're in breaks up. The last band I was in was unhealthy for me. At the time I really wanted out. Now thats its over I miss it, but Im not thinking of the negative impact it had on me. Its really hard to find a good solid group of nice people and all be on the same page. Anyway, great topic... thank you for video man
Rhett, I have been watching your content for a while now and I can honestly say this video has been the most and genuine for me! I want to say that I am sorry for the tough times you have had in the past with the church. I have been playing in the church for a good 25 years as a volunteer and done in completely for the Lord and I know the pressure that can come with it. I still do it as I know who I am doing it for. Thanks for all your videos as I have moved to using an HX Stomp as my amp rig on my pedal board because of you and my back appreciates it for not hauling that heavy amp rig a couple times a week to church! Keep it up on the content sharing and thanks for keeping it real.
Rhett this was great and I’d love to see more videos like this. A tennis player friend told me something similar years ago. He always tried to play with someone better than than he was. It made him better.
So “right on” in your comments. Basically, you described me when I was a beginning guitarist. I was a player in the greatest era of guitarists........the focal point of all bands during the late-60s & early-70s. I became close friends with a player who was considered the absolute best guitar player in the Philadelphia area. I had only been playing for 1-2 years and felt completely inadequate every single time I stepped onstage. To make matters worse, our two bands played many nights on the same stage and, basically, I wanted to crawl into a hole, especially when my friend would come out of the dressing room and watch me play. Anyway.......I constantly compared where he was as a player to where I was and I began thinking that I’d never get to his level. Big Mistake! Eventually, it caused me to quit my band and even quit playing guitar all together. I sold off my five vintage Les Pauls, as well as my remaining two vintage Fender amps.........stopped going to clubs and concerts.........stopped buying records...........completely divorced myself from music, in general. It took me 29 years to return to playing as a hobby and just for personal enjoyment......yes, in my house. I had another good guitarist friend who was very instrumental in me becoming a guitar player in the first place. When I quit playing, he tried to explain exactly what your video was basically about.............be the best you can be because every single player has “something” to offer. You can never be someone else. Thanks for the wonderful, insightful video............every musician should take it to heart. Stay well and safe.
There was a show on SNL "Confessions of Taxi Driver," this is kind of "confession of guitarist" and I have to say you a big Thank You because I learn this way from you a lot. Somebody said that it is better to learn on somebody else's mistakes than on our own, that's true! Regarding the streaming monthly show, I have to say what a great idea, thank you for doing this. I think it is really great way to play live in front of the audience in this difficult time when all musical venues are shut down. I hope that this will also create some steady income for you and your friends musicians. Once again thank you and keep doing the great job!
Music is art. Indeed! I am old as dirt and have played with hundreds of other players in hundreds of other situations over the years. Been on both sides of this where I was the worst player in the room and the best player in the room. I learned a ton from both experiences. Learning to listen with "big ears", learning to find my place in the mix, learning to yoke the strengths of less experienced players to make music the best that we can. Learning to communicate with others musically when we come together from widely different backgrounds. If we do it right we are rewarded with some exquisite musical experiences. This is the game we play. Cheers from The Road Dogs Band in SoCal!
It really helped hearing this. I think lot of people have similar anxieties to the ones you described, but don’t want to admit it. Myself included. It’s great to see someone be so open about it.
Getting out and playing music with other people rather than just playing at home on your own is the best way of developing as a musician. The other people will learn stuff from you too. Finding your own voice on your instrument and being yourself is the most important thing. I went through a lot of the same doubts and many times felt that I was not improving but then inspiration hits and you go through a barrier and see the road stretching out in front of you and off you go again. Great video!
What I really enjoy about your videos is the humble attitude you have despite your platform. You did what greats do, started from the ground up and check your ego so you can continue to grow and learn. I love the honesty and it really is inspiring to see. Would love to do what you’re doing here in Canada
This video came at the right time for me. I started guitar later in life (picked it up at 27 now i'm 40) and I always feel highly inadequate in situations being as I feel like I'm always behind the eight ball. I struggle with being the worst player in the room partly because I feel like I didn't start early enough and now with life and a family I don't have the time to really practice like I want to in order to improve. This video has really helped me just stop beating myself up so much and really come to terms with where I am at in my guitar playing journey. Thank Your Rhett for putting your self in a very vulnerable place and letting people like me know that we aren't alone in this.
I don't even consider myself a "guitar player". Guitar is just one tool we have to use creatively. I don't subscribe to the guitar elitism that many guitar players have. Like you said, it's just ego confirmation. It seems silly. We all spend our time honing different skills, and it's great what you've done with guitar, but no matter how technically good you are if you're not connecting with people, what's the point? You're just stroking your own ego. And even if you have a strong aptitude for it, if you don't continually try to challenge yourself and aren't open to new ideas, you're never going to grow. You'll be stuck. I don't think you're in any danger of that, you have a healthy amount of perspective. I love that you keep it real. Good Video. I've learned a lot from your content, even if sometimes it's a totally different perspective.
This lock down has dropped everyone's confidence. It's pretty crazy to watch. Don't let it get to you man, don't think about where you're lacking, focus on what you think would be fun to improve
Spencer Hosch that's true. I went from playing live 3 times a week to not playing a gig in 9 months. I couldn't even look at my guitar for the first 3 months of this. I'm depressed that music has been cancelled where I live and my confidence has been shattered :(
Hey Rhett!! You are in the mindset you need to be in now. I fought the ego issues for 20yrs,but then I realized it's not how good at playing,but how good the music is you put out. Play from your heart and gut. Let the music flow out organically. You are a very good guitarist! Always remember to that most times it is just a difference of style and aprouch. I have been in the music biz for over 35 years and almost all my solos are the basic pentatonic scale and it works and never much shit from people. Like they say Rhett "if it ain't broke don't fix it"! If you ever need or want advice on anything look me up on FB! Always love to help others! Good luck Rhett and remember you ARE an amazing guitarist!-Michael Fives
You comments really mean a lot to me. I went through something that I bet was pretty similar to what you did with the church gig. Perhaps not. But one of the things I realized was that conformity is not art and just because someone, lets say the drummer or bass player, is really great on their instrument it does not mean that you are deficient on your own instrument. I realized that for me worship music was not my true expression but that I needed to create to get better. Stepping away from it was better for everyone. I accepted that I was not only not the best musician but also not the best fit. It was a very freeing discovery. Thank you for sharing your story.
I liked this one a lot for several reason. Artfully done in terms of the shots and dealing with the environmental challenges. :) Also I think its fantastic that you are communicating this message. At almost 56 and only two years into playing, being Ok with not being good right out of the box is really important. So many people give up when they hit adversity they weren't prepared for, or when they simply can't do what they want in an unreasonable amount of time. Getting good takes time. A lot of time. For some more than others too. I know at my age I just don't absorb things as quickly as I used to and that is perfectky Ok. When I started this I gave my self 5 years to not suck. I'll still suck, but I'll be good enough that most people won't realize it. Lol! Also, when you trade a pair of speaker for a '74 Strat in college, don't sell it a year before you finally make the decision to make a serious effort to learn how to play. haha!
Rhett, congrats on recent steps you've taken. I stepped forward from the drumset after 14 years in bands led by others to form and lead a band from the front, to my vision (while playing marimba and vibraphone). So glad I did that, here 29 years after taking that step. And I've always had better musicians than me in the band and will forever be grateful for the time on the bandstand and more importantly, the lessons I learned from them. Agree totally with your comments on the right mindset to learn from (and enjoy!) the musicians around you. Last weekend's show was terrific!!!
I enjoy the story telling along with the musical insights. One thing that hit me while watching you light your grill is how you include clips of more than you looking at the camera and playing. It adds a different mood than just a professor in front of a class. Between that and some of what I believe is your original music as a soundtrack, they feel more like mini-documentaries which is cool.
Rhett your honesty is refreshing, it takes strength and character to open up this way. You are an amazing guitarist, an even better person. Learn and create!
Rhett, thank you so much for being so honest and communicative in this video. I enjoy seeing you on RB's channel as well. I suspect you're better than you think as a musician.
Rhett I like all your video's, this is the best one yet. You expressed alot of what others feel and experience. I've been the worst in the room more times than not. The last few years I've tried the learn from that and it has been successful especially with help from guys like you. After being in bands for 20 + I too am fronting my own band. It's cool and scary. One thing that helps that I've learned is leave the ego at home and play to your strength's . PS love the live shows keep them coming.
It is amazing how I feel like I know you from a long time. Maybe because you are so transparent and share your thoughts and feelings and that is more than I get from my actual friends.
I understand you want to be careful about what happened with your church experience, but I really appreciated you bringing it up. Church and the church music scene can be so toxic and harmful to who you are as a person. More people are hurt and thrown aside than anyone wants to admit and it's tragic for the loss of passion for music of aspiring musicians. Please feel free to talk about it and explain what happened. You'd be doing a lot of people a lot of good by sharing your experience.
Thanks for the transparency man! I have had a similar journey in my career. Once I started getting over the anxiety and threat from players better then I was, I started to be able to grow and learn to lead a band and be a better musician. I've been fired from a church gig along the way too, and its also a long story ( ;
Rhett, you nailed it. I was in the same situation way back when I played out for a living. Having to play up to everyone else was the best thing for me. Made me better!
I see a man with a lot of courage to speak so openly about his struggles, and you also show the wisdom to learn. You're half way there to become the greatest musician, keep going strong and believe in yourself! You only have to worry when you think you're there and stop learning.
Can you talk about some tips and don'ts about playing in churches? I think it will be valuable, because so many musician (especially young) play at churches to make a living. And sadly they encounter unpleasant experience with churches
I was approached many times in my younger days to play at a church. It never fit in with my ideas of the musician I wanted to be. I stick to my guns and in my bedroom ....... In hindsight I wished I had just for the experience .
I am a decidedly secular individual, and have had a couple of exceptional experiences playing in baptist churches (think blues brothers scene with James Brown). However, I've not pursued those religious venues at all because I felt that I was intruding in a way on something that was for the other participants was a deeply spiritual and genuine experience, and for me was a chance to play with an amazing rhythm section and AMAZING B3 player. I was left unmoved by the religion but totally improved my chops. It's a tricky thing.
It's a great feeling to be the "worst" player in the room. That means you have some "special" talent around you and folks you can learn from. In my old band my singer/ rythm guitar, songwriter use to say the same about himself. He taught me how to write, arrange, play melodies and how to have my lead guitar voice to "serve" the song not overplay or in a style that fits the song. Years later he heard some of my music and he said I've come a long way. Like I always say I'm not reinventing the wheel and I don't suck however I can hold my own and I continue to have an open mind. There are guitar players that can play circles around me. It use to bother me in my 20's and 30's now in my early 50's I look at it as an opportunity to learn, grow and refine my own style. So I totally get where you are coming from Rhett. Thank you for the post. Your number one goosenecking bro from Chicago
This stuff is my favorite content of yours Rhett ( other than maybe your preshow/show Vlogs ). It reminds us that we are all human and even those of us that are fantastic players still suffer from Ego and human issues. Thanks!!
I was really getting in my own head today about similar things. Mainly about being a band leader and not being the best player in the room. This helped tremendously, and couldn’t have shown up in my youtube feed at a better time. Thank you, Rhett!
Great topic Rhett, it's an often overlooked part of the musical journey that is worth a deep dive. Being the worst in a room of musicians who will lift you up is the best situation you can be in (and something that you should always remember when you are the best in the room!!).
You are the kind of person that is great to be in the room with. The most important is honesty. And that is booth as a person and as an artist. This is a my experience from many years as an actor at a repertoar Theatre. And lot’s of gigs as a drummer.🎧🙏🏻💥Thank’s for sharing.
I'm glad you're finding peace within your playing. I enjoy listening to you play. I don't care if you're the best. That's a relative term. Live long, love, and prosper.
Thank you, very honest and humble. It's hard to put that ego away - or it always has been for me. But it's the only way we can open ourselves to learning. Really enjoying your channel.
Good point for juniors - surround yourself wherever possible with the best. One of the key learnings for me was to stop worrying about my playing, but instead, how I want to make a contribution to the song and the sound. Its got to be about the song and the music - not showing off your chops.
I think this video was, in my opinion, one of the most important you've ever made! I think for someone in your position, someone who has a lot of followers and inspires a heck of a lot of people, to touch on mental health, and talk about a fairly vulnerable topic, is so so important and for that I commend you! Also, I just want to say a massive thank you for putting on these live shows. You, Jamie, Chad and Phil have inspired me more musically in the past 3 shows than I have felt in a long, long time. I've felt myself in a huge musical rut for ages now and these live shows have made me realise what I want to be doing with my music in the future, so thank you! If I manage to inspire just one person with my music in the future the way that you guys have inspired me with yours, that'll be more than enough for me! Thanks guys, can't wait for the next show!
Great video! You really hit home on a lot of issues with me when I started playing out when I was getting back into music. I was always anxious and feeling like I couldn't play well and no matter how hard I practiced there was no way I could get better. It was a humbling experience and I struggled with it for a long time and still do. I learned and am still learning to let go of a lot of those topics causing anxiety and I realized that if the people who are better than you are good and mature then they will help you instead of belittle you. If anyone was tearing me down I would see them for who they are.
Thanks for this Rhett. As a fellow guitarist in a new project and also the least talented person in the room, I really appreciate the insight. Why is it that playing in front of non musicians doesn’t bother me but playing in front of other talented musicians is so terrifying? When I first started with my new band, I was so nervous and made all kinds of beginner mistakes, my hands would stiffen, etc. I decided to be open about my anxiety instead of making excuses and have come to realize many other musicians really suffer from the same issues as I do. As we’ve become better friends the anxiety is less crippling, but it’s still there. Now when I feel the anxiety coming on, I remind myself “this is what living feels like”...I am participating in creation of art which is the most human thing you can do. Seeing someone as talented as you talk about this is very inspirational...so thanks for that!!
Really nice of you opening up. Ive played with some unbelievable players and when i were younger i felt exactly the same. Now if i play with someone whos better than me im straight up trying to learn from them
Hi Rhett - thanks for sharing! I appreciated your openness and transparency in the issues that you face in the place in life where you have now come to. Your anecdote about the mega church is interesting - and saddening. As I write this, I have just come off a Church Zoom meeting of my own. There were just about 20 of us participating in worship together - and leading the music was a total non-professional musician with just her voice and her acoustic guitar. I felt so much more connected to God in participating in the simplicity and "non-professional-ness " of this moment than many other occasions of big Church worship, where its more about the personalities and the performance rather than the object of Who is being worshipped. Keep on rocking!!
Rick taught you well and thanks for the monthly show I look forward to it every month and rant and rave about how they keep getting better! Stay humble it will serve you well.
So here's the thing about leadership Rhett. My perspective from my experiences, which actually some I can't get into. There are natural born leaders. But they range the scale from humble and astute to downright lousy and egotistical. Both get the job done regardless but it's what they impart on those they lead that counts. A true leader wants to learn more and leave that knowledge with others and not feel threatened. Very few have the ability to leave the ego behind and elevate others. I've found that those who experience the range of knowledge on a particular subject from amateur through expert and remain humble and self critical are the best leaders. This sounds just like you. Questioning if you're ready for the role means you have been brought to the point where you're much more ready than those who think they deserve it. You're open to ideas and have a grasp on your position in your life musically and collaboratively. You're ready.
The best leaders I've ever worked with(notice I didn't say "for") were not the best at the thing we were doing, they were the best at managing the relationships of those that were the best at their craft.
I feel this type of content is extremely valuable. Well done, and your point in this one is good for folks to hear. The flip side of it can be knowing you are the worst player in the room and letting that make you feel inadequate and steal your confidence. When one becomes tentative as a result it robs your ability to truly connect to the music and the other players. Even if a newer, relatively inexperienced, or even long time player who isn’t particularly gifted or highly developed, there is a place for everyone to plug into the music being played no matter the experience or talent of the other players. Getting into the “flow” of the music and becoming part of it is a magical experience. It’s ok to try things and make mistakes while finding your respective “space” in any group of players. Once you find that space where you contribute something without taking away from the overall it’s awesome and rewarding. At the end of it all it’s far better to be the worst in the room because there is much to learn from others. My greatest growth as a player has come from playing with others who were vastly beyond me at the time. I’ve always struggled with confidence in those settings while at the same time being grateful for the opportunity. Only recently have I begun to start appreciating my ability to make valuable and worthwhile contributions no matter the level of players around me. The most important thing is to enjoy playing no matter your level and to not let being the worst in the room dampen your passion or enthusiasm but to let all that come out in your playing. I only share this as an encouragement to others who may struggle with the same confidence issues. If you love to play, no matter your level, let that love come through your playing.
Man. Your videos are super well made, congrats for your job seriously, you make me want to play guitar, practice and thanks to your tips, getting better and better! Thanks From France🇨🇵🔥
Hi Rhett, very good advice, being mentally open to learn music, and that it becomes part of ours life's, is precisely what I have been trying to do for 4 years. I started very late, but I WILL NOT give up. Thanks.
Everyone picking up the guitar, or any instrument for that matter should listen to this. I love how you put it in perspective. "It's not a competition, it's art/it's expression". Many a band would do well to hear and remember this. Great vid, thanks!
Very relevant and wise Rhett. I enjoy these road experience videos a lot, gives us a chance to share your experiences and relate them to our own from a different perspective.
LOL So was I Rhett. I'm not all that fast, fancy, or great at improvisation. I started playing guitar at age 12. i am 60 now and still LEARNING. Back in 1986 I sat in on a gig (The Mr.West Club in Newark, NJ) with some friends and this very well known guitarist from Pittsburg,PA happen to come in that night. Long story short, he told me I have a good tone but Great touch and to keep developing your voice. I did not sing that night and it took me a few days to realize he was still talking about my playing. We are individuals with different GIFTS within our art. No one is the "worst player in the room" I admire all musicians (especially guitarist) but we must run our own race and keep developing our own voice. From that night on is who I have been as a musician. Be yourself don't worry about no one else.
Best Video on the internet. I play bass and just joined a fusion(ish) trio, these guys are lightyears ahead, i am working my ass off to learn and play the music. This was a good video to watch today.
Rhett - great video. Thanks for sharing some excellent lessons for music and for life here. Being comfortable all the time as a player is not the way to grow as a player, but a humans we naturally avoid discomfort. I have let this very thing affect my live playing for most of my amateur playing career (a couple of decades of gigging live). I am almost always the worst player in the room. I have been laughed at a couple times by audience members at shows who were better players and I let that get inside my head. I have learned a lot of what you covered here - but it took me a lot longer to get there than it did for you. Thanks for 'baring your soul' to all us hopefully hacks out here in viewer land. Your humanity/humility is refreshing from a player of your caliber and inspiring to a lot of people. Never stop growing.
Perfectly said, Rhett. I've always been cowered by the fact that I'm not Beck, or Gilmour, or Page, or Carlton; pick one. It has caused great damage to my growth, not accepting the player I am NOW, and realizing it's a path and not a gift. Feeling comfortable with players beyond my skill is still difficult, but you're right: be in the room with the right mindset and contribute what you can! Thanks, man...
This is such good perspective. It's hard to make that turn from being intimidated to being ready to soak up everything you can from better players. Im often the worst guy in the room so I've had lots of practice. 😂 Great video and advice!
Excellent episode! “Music is not a competition, it is an expression of art” says it all ( I plan to steal this quote and use it heavily with my guitar students). This is why I despise these competition shows like American Idol, The Voice, etc. I am 67 years old and just a bit pig headed it’s taken me this long to become comfortable with myself as a player. My niche is as a fingerstyle acoustic guitarist. I love to play electric guitar but, as much as I wanted to be Carlton, Clapton, Beck or Page, I know that’s not going to happen.
I’m just focused on being the best player I can be. I agree with Rhett, it helps to play with better musicians as often as possible to inspire you to get better (if that’s what your goal is). And I admire Rhett for that - I’m double his age and I always thought I had to get better to play live and of course it leads to slow gains if that’s your approach. Keep on doing what you’re doing, Rhett!
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If you missed the show this past weekend, check it out here and mark you calendar for October 10th to catch episode 4 LIVE!
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Rhett, a really great video. Briefly sharing my 2c: was suffering from the same problem, more or less; ended up giving up on music & guitar for 10+ years. I've resumed recently (coincidentally, with the advent of your YT channel, ha ha!), and was back to the same gruelling sensation, but forced myself to confront it. Yup, I still suck, but what has helped me is trying to shift away from thinking about being a guitar player, to being a musician, or a student of music (as I like telling myself). A lot has changed since I made that shift, and helped me refocus on music and exploring it, rather than gaining & mastering a skill (playing the instrument). Also, Tom Bukovac with his "serve the song" approach has been helping me a lot.
It's really comforting to see that kind of video, so kudos to you & thank you!
What about debuting the Mule Resonators Mulecaster? My daughter wants to hear what is sounds like...
In the Air Tonight was smokin'! Be the driver, man, and make your guitar heard. Write great songs, great riffs, that we can actually sing (unlike a Malmsteen solo or whatever...). Your band kicks ass, and so do you, be the best together.
I hate to agree with you about not being the best in the room but the sauce is very strong with those guys. That being said you got the touch bro, keep it up and I think you will be one of the best in your era.
Rhett Shull I would like to see you include your wife doing some singing.
I feel like some people kind of miss the point of this, it's not Rhett saying he's a bad guitarist/musician in any way, it's him saying there is a lot to learn from the musicians around him and thats a great mindset to have as a musician I think. Just because you aren't an expert at everything doesn't mean you're bad. Great video as always!
Petrus Nordh one great thing about the guitar, is that everyone play’s different, there is always something more to learn on the guitar, and as long as you keep learning stuff new songs, riffs,the more you memorize the better,
Love this sort of thing man! I ALWAYS try to hire players that I can learn from. It's tough, but learning is living man.
Underrated comment. The whole mandate is to improve. Love it.
Rhett: I'm the worst player in the Room
Me: Hold my Beer
I like beer
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*STARTS PLAYING SWEET CHILD O MINE*
Anyway here’s my version of wonder wall........
@@andrewcruz7595 ...playing Sweet Child 'O Mine without tuning down to Eb.
I had to remove myself from playing at church. It affected me spiritually and took me to a place that changed me and started to be affected by others, and not in a good way. Since that time I have grown much closer to The Lord and feel I have matured both spiritually and mentally. Basically it was a learning experience to keep my eyes on Him and Him alone. Enjoy your videos brother.
Gary in Asheville NC
Man now i wanna know the church gig story
He keeps hinting at it here and on the podcast, but I don't think I've ever heard it. I'm a church player and former worship pastor, so I'm especially interested.
Yeaah!! Tell us more! :D
dkerwood1 Been there as a worship pastor. Left for reasons too, but I’d never tell the full reason to thousands on the internet.
@@kentonschroer2347 That's fair, and a good call. Sometimes, though, we protect our own in the church a little too much and mistreat people in the name of church work. The pastor at my first church choir job said it best- the church will try to take advantage of you... don't let us do that.
dkerwood1 So true. Unfortunately one of the worst things that plague pastors is overwork. Church culture is all about who can work more and harder. In terms of “corporate culture” it’s some of the worst that you can be in. Not always, but you’re right they have no issue taking advantage of people. However, I’ve worked with some of the best leaders in my life doing that work. Peace!
Reminds me of the saying, "If you are the smartest person in the room, you are in the wrong room."
It looks great on paper, but honestly I've learned more of what matters from stupid people than intellectuals :)
@@ShamanicSavant Being 'smart' and being a self proclaimed 'intellectual' are different things. There is overlap but the two are not mutually exclusive.
YOU NAILED IT! I'll never forget your quote. I've obviously been in the wrong damn rooms.
I’m 33. Started playing two years ago. I went to a bar not knowing it was an open mic. Talked to some of the old timers about a lesson. Now those open mics are the only place I get to play outside of my house. I consider my time at the jams more of a lesson than a performance now. I learn soooo much in a 3-5 song set. Then I go home and practice what I learned. The guys aren’t easy on me either. 9 times out of 10 when I go back to showcase what I’ve learned and practiced, they show me something completely different and the cycle continues. I absolutely love being around better musicians!
Rhett, listen man. I play guitar for more than 20 years now. I barely had lessons, I didn't graduate from a music school or something like that. But I play my ass of and try to be the best I can. I always saw myself to be an average player at best.
When you say that you, a graduate, a professional, an influencer, are just "average" , that means me and all my fellows feel below average. What I want to say is that being humble is important - and you are - but at the same time one easily could feel demoted by hearing professionals talking themselves down.
That's all. Stay great and well, greetings from Germany.
Guter Kommentar.
Only place to be!
That's the TRIPLE TRUTH, RUTH!!
Facts
It's not about being the best. It's about being the best you. And every video I watch and hear you plug into an amp, I hear Rhett Shull. And I think you do a damn fine job at that :) keep up the good work
I just caught your comment while checking out the video and I just had to tell you that that's some good advice right there... "It's not about being the best. It's about being the best you." , Cheers!
THE BEST, THE BEST, THE BEST, THE BEST OF YOUUUUUUUGHG!
Sorry, I had to
My thoughts exactly!
Well said.
I've told students and friends the same thing for years. The idea is to be the best you not the best. It's hard not to judge yourself against other players, but you can't do it and stay sane, ha. If I hear someone playing something I can't yet play, I find myself saying "good it can be done, not I can't do it or worst I can never do it. Look at all you've done to this point. The beauty in playing any instrument is you can still grow and be better, but you have to appreciate where you are. Remember you are playing, ha, not working...
I’ve heard Joe Bonamassa say music is not a competition. That always helped me lose the ego. A guitarist can be at many different levels and still sound great. Age helped me as well. That and realizing I was never going to be a rock star.
Cool video.
I've been saying this for years. It can be scary sometimes and I can be easily intimidated, but it really is the only way to truly develop & grow...
Having said that, I have no time for laziness or complacency. If you are not willing to challenge yourself, I'm out. I have left bands because a member just wanted to use it as an excuse to hang out, party, etc. and basically "phone it in". If that is you, don't waste my time!
Very well stated.
Welp youre luck, now that Im here I am the worst player in the room.
Hold my beer
I'm the worst player in the room, even when I'm the only one in it, which is always.
@@Pandamasque No way, Panda! I'm twice as bad as you on my best day!
Yellow Truck Productions I doubt you’re worst than me
Oh ahah step aside
I love this band. You and Mr. Beato inspire me. I don't play with other people, I don't have the connections. I learn for me, but sometimes I want more than just being a living room guitarist. Keep these little chats up, You are lighting fires under people to perform better. Thank you.
Put out a Craigslist ad. It worked for me on my first try. I recently moved to Raleigh and now I have a little garage band that I jam with. At the least use jamming tracks to practice with. I play with them everyday. My playing improved massively from this.
Try meet up groups too.
100% agree. Once I accepted the intimidating feeling, I actually learned that I grow waaayyyy more when I'm the worst and around much better. They don't judge me because I'm worse than them. They just enjoy playing together
Hey Rhett. One year ago a friend of mine told me he needed a bass player for his band and jokingly offered me to join even though I never played the instrument before. Not willing to let that joke go I grabbed my girfriends bass and practiced my ass off. 2 weeks later we played at very small low stakes open mic where I just hit root notes on every bar (insert bass player joke here). Musically it was pretty bad but I had a ton of fun regardless. I am the worst player in my band for a year now and it has been nothing but inspiring. I learned so much more then I ever could have on my own. The sentiment might be cliche but being the worst player in a band has made a dream come true for me of performing live music for people... So yeah sorry for rambling. Nice video, keep up the good work and I'm looking forward to the next backstage live.
Keep up the good work! Good bass players are a lifesaver for any band.
@@lloydster9000 thanks, I will. Playing the bass definitly made me appreciate music in a different way so I'm looking forward to many years of learning and growing
Thanks for the openness and honesty. Your desire to encourage others to grow is great.
I also appreciate the fact you used while recalling your experience at the church. It sounds pretty rough and even painful. I'm sorry you had to go through that. Blessings on you.
THIS IS A REALLY WELL MADE VIDEO.
whew. Just had to get that out.
I agree. I’ve been there, Rhett. I play at church, and years ago, I was the electric player. Then one evening at rehearsal, a guy was there with a gig bag on his back. Had an Ibanez RG series in there. Stunning player. Made me look like a kid in my first year of lessons, and I’d been playing close to 20 years at that time. I knew I was sloppy in my approach, didn’t even know what theory was, and lived off the pentatonic scales, in 2 positions. I’d venture outside of those with success, but not without an occasional bad note.
I was ready to quit after a couple weeks. I liked the guy enough. Not a threatening bone in his body. Not showy. Just better. I stuck it out, and he became one of my closest friends, and more than that, he taught me to be the best me without even trying.
I’m totally fine being the worst player. I might just learn something.
Rhett, if you were trying to make a video that resonates with just about every swingin ‘ sirloin that’s out there...you’ve done it!
I’ve found that over the years, having played with many different people, some of which were monster players, there is nothing better than playing with people that you genuinely like. People you can have laughs with and have a good time playing as well.
Players that are on the “ same page” with musically as well as socially.
Through a weird circumstance of throwing the dice, I’ve finally found this, and it makes all the difference in the world. No one in our band is a virtuoso, but all are competent, and it just...works.
I’m sure many of us have played with folks who were great players, but we just didn’t mesh with even when the music was good.
Talent is one thing ( a very big thing) but having fun making music, and getting it done, is what it’s all about.
You’ve got a high quality channel. Thanks for consistently providing cool content.
Hey Rhett. Loved this video. I’m not a musician, I’m a theatre artist, but creating and growing, telling stories, and connecting is what it’s all about. I have so much respect and appreciation for the healing and courage that pervades here. Hearing of your church experience resonated with me, as I went through a traumatic professional experience that’s haunted me for a few years now. The incident was both my fault and not my fault, but I’m so hard on myself that I put it all on me (as did others). It hurt so much it paralyzed me. Your video has helped. Thanks! 🙏
That guitar looks like if a glass of whiskey turned into a guitar
Spot on
Or it was made from the wood of an old smoke shack. Smells delicious.
Yeah... Bourbon, to be precise. It's f*cking beautiful.
Dang Rhett! Calling me out like that!!! I was happy thinking I was growing in my little comfort zone! This really resonated with me. Im more of a singer than a guitar player, and in music school it definitely felt a lot like a competition. I was always after the solo, who could sing the highest, who was faster and more accurate, it really didnt feel like a collaboration. Now that I'm out of school and I'm trying to be a working musician, its been a shift looking at other musicians as collaborators instead of competitors. Goes to show you can't learn everything in school! Thanks for the video!
I’ve been playing professionally since 1966 and have made my living at it most of that time. There was a period when
I had to look at my circumstances and move to a more stable livelihood, though I was still gigging whenever my time
would allow. You’ve made these points so well; thoughtful and well expressed, with a positive outlook. As a guitar
teacher and player for 64 years I concur with all of it ...1) Playing with better players than you is a lot like sports: You
get better because you learn from them and aspire to their level when you see it’s attainable. Like playing golf or tennis
with a better foursome, doubles partner, or having a great singles player school you. You get better! 2) It’s a marathon,
not a sprint. A life in Music (or anything you choose) is a journey and meant to taken step by step. 3) You can’t be (or
play like) someone else. We are who we are, and it’s to be celebrated not hidden. 4) Take a chance when offered and
don’t be afraid to do that. Nervousness is natural but actual fear can be debilitating and harmful to growth. Do it! 5) Be
confident in what you CAN do and don’t worry about what you CAN’T. It’s a fool’s errand ... Great video, Rhett. I hope
folks take what you say to heart.
As a worship leader (and obviously not knowing the exact circumstances of your church gig) I really feel for you. That’s just not the way it should be in the church. We should be the exact opposite - warm, forgiving, wanting to give and build up everyone instead of using people, genuine, real, and merciful. It hurts my heart when I hear about church situations like I get the sense yours was. Church should feel like family, not business.
Rhett, this is one of the best videos you've ever done. Such an important message, and one that I wish all the vibey players I've dealt with over the years would watch. (Oddly, most of those guys WERE the best players in the room; it's just that they apparently didn't have the self confidence to go along with it, and certainly not enough to remain a generous musical partner.)
Rhett: I'm just an average guitar player.
Me:
@4:43 A metaphor for life. I used to race dirt bikes. I always sought out guys faster than me to hang out and practice with. As a mechanic and woodworker, I would find the "old hands" and learn from them. My goals were not to be the best at anything, but to be regarded as having learned from the best, or even mentioned among the best. The best rewards I've ever recieved were mere recognition _from_ the best. All who have become or are the best is because they stand on the shoulders of giants that preceeded them. It also has the benefit of teaching humility and a great ego check. In short, those we recognize as being the best are actually very good _students_ of the best.
I love being the worst player in the room but like you I wasn't always like that. It took years and then I started ti listen to those players and for the most part I realized the best players tend to be the most humble and willing to share their knowledge. After I got over that intimidation I was feeling I just started to try to soak it all in every time I get to play with these people who I admire. It's made me more than just a better musician. It's made me a better person and more willing to encourage others who are in the position I once was in. I'm still more often then not the worst player in the room but now I don't let that get to me as much because at least I'm still in the room and I must be good enough to at least keep being invited to be in the room with these amazing players ya know. Plus I know that nobody is more critical of my playing as I am so it keeps me on my toes and humble. Great video Rhett!!!
Overcoming your ego. Being nervous around other players. I totally get that. It is something I am dealing with.
It is nice to hear it from someone like yourself. Great advice.
I really enjoy your videos/vlogs. Keep cranking them out!
"Music is not a competition". So well said. I've been telling my kids this since they were in preschool.
Talent shows teach us it is a competition. So do social media and these stupid „best guitarists“ lists already did decades ago...
This is a great topic. Ill just speak for myself, after playing quite awhile and seeing what all these people are doing with their guitars can get very discouraging. .. Almost to the point of quitting. Ive been in ruts and would stop playing. Usually within a week I would get the itch and just have to pick up and play. It can be very discouraging also when a band you're in breaks up. The last band I was in was unhealthy for me. At the time I really wanted out. Now thats its over I miss it, but Im not thinking of the negative impact it had on me. Its really hard to find a good solid group of nice people and all be on the same page. Anyway, great topic... thank you for video man
Don't give up on finding good people to play with. They are out there.
Rhett, I have been watching your content for a while now and I can honestly say this video has been the most and genuine for me! I want to say that I am sorry for the tough times you have had in the past with the church. I have been playing in the church for a good 25 years as a volunteer and done in completely for the Lord and I know the pressure that can come with it. I still do it as I know who I am doing it for. Thanks for all your videos as I have moved to using an HX Stomp as my amp rig on my pedal board because of you and my back appreciates it for not hauling that heavy amp rig a couple times a week to church! Keep it up on the content sharing and thanks for keeping it real.
Rhett this was great and I’d love to see more videos like this. A tennis player friend told me something similar years ago. He always tried to play with someone better than than he was. It made him better.
You just got to support the quality of what Rhett is putting out. Really love your videos!
So “right on” in your comments. Basically, you described me when I was a beginning guitarist. I was a player in the greatest era of guitarists........the focal point of all bands during the late-60s & early-70s. I became close friends with a player who was considered the absolute best guitar player in the Philadelphia area. I had only been playing for 1-2 years and felt completely inadequate every single time I stepped onstage. To make matters worse, our two bands played many nights on the same stage and, basically, I wanted to crawl into a hole, especially when my friend would come out of the dressing room and watch me play. Anyway.......I constantly compared where he was as a player to where I was and I began thinking that I’d never get to his level. Big Mistake! Eventually, it caused me to quit my band and even quit playing guitar all together.
I sold off my five vintage Les Pauls, as well as my remaining two vintage Fender amps.........stopped going to clubs and concerts.........stopped buying records...........completely divorced myself from music, in general. It took me 29 years to return to playing as a hobby and just for personal enjoyment......yes, in my house.
I had another good guitarist friend who was very instrumental in me becoming a guitar player in the first place. When I quit playing, he tried to explain exactly what your video was basically about.............be the best you can be because every single player has “something” to offer. You can never be someone else.
Thanks for the wonderful, insightful video............every musician should take it to heart. Stay well and safe.
There was a show on SNL "Confessions of Taxi Driver," this is kind of "confession of guitarist" and I have to say you a big Thank You because I learn this way from you a lot. Somebody said that it is better to learn on somebody else's mistakes than on our own, that's true!
Regarding the streaming monthly show, I have to say what a great idea, thank you for doing this. I think it is really great way to play live in front of the audience in this difficult time when all musical venues are shut down. I hope that this will also create some steady income for you and your friends musicians.
Once again thank you and keep doing the great job!
The editing and quality of the video is insane! the intro shot is very impressive
Music is art. Indeed!
I am old as dirt and have played with hundreds of other players in hundreds of other situations over the years. Been on both sides of this where I was the worst player in the room and the best player in the room. I learned a ton from both experiences. Learning to listen with "big ears", learning to find my place in the mix, learning to yoke the strengths of less experienced players to make music the best that we can. Learning to communicate with others musically when we come together from widely different backgrounds. If we do it right we are rewarded with some exquisite musical experiences. This is the game we play.
Cheers from The Road Dogs Band in SoCal!
Actually really needed that dude. Bands are tough and egos are crazy. Brilliant as always man.
It really helped hearing this. I think lot of people have similar anxieties to the ones you described, but don’t want to admit it. Myself included. It’s great to see someone be so open about it.
Getting out and playing music with other people rather than just playing at home on your own is the best way of developing as a musician. The other people will learn stuff from you too. Finding your own voice on your instrument and being yourself is the most important thing. I went through a lot of the same doubts and many times felt that I was not improving but then inspiration hits and you go through a barrier and see the road stretching out in front of you and off you go again. Great video!
What I really enjoy about your videos is the humble attitude you have despite your platform. You did what greats do, started from the ground up and check your ego so you can continue to grow and learn. I love the honesty and it really is inspiring to see. Would love to do what you’re doing here in Canada
This video came at the right time for me. I started guitar later in life (picked it up at 27 now i'm 40) and I always feel highly inadequate in situations being as I feel like I'm always behind the eight ball. I struggle with being the worst player in the room partly because I feel like I didn't start early enough and now with life and a family I don't have the time to really practice like I want to in order to improve. This video has really helped me just stop beating myself up so much and really come to terms with where I am at in my guitar playing journey. Thank Your Rhett for putting your self in a very vulnerable place and letting people like me know that we aren't alone in this.
I don't even consider myself a "guitar player". Guitar is just one tool we have to use creatively. I don't subscribe to the guitar elitism that many guitar players have. Like you said, it's just ego confirmation. It seems silly. We all spend our time honing different skills, and it's great what you've done with guitar, but no matter how technically good you are if you're not connecting with people, what's the point? You're just stroking your own ego. And even if you have a strong aptitude for it, if you don't continually try to challenge yourself and aren't open to new ideas, you're never going to grow. You'll be stuck. I don't think you're in any danger of that, you have a healthy amount of perspective. I love that you keep it real. Good Video. I've learned a lot from your content, even if sometimes it's a totally different perspective.
This lock down has dropped everyone's confidence. It's pretty crazy to watch.
Don't let it get to you man, don't think about where you're lacking, focus on what you think would be fun to improve
Spencer Hosch that's true. I went from playing live 3 times a week to not playing a gig in 9 months. I couldn't even look at my guitar for the first 3 months of this. I'm depressed that music has been cancelled where I live and my confidence has been shattered :(
Hey Rhett!! You are in the mindset you need to be in now. I fought the ego issues for 20yrs,but then I realized it's not how good at playing,but how good the music is you put out. Play from your heart and gut. Let the music flow out organically. You are a very good guitarist! Always remember to that most times it is just a difference of style and aprouch. I have been in the music biz for over 35 years and almost all my solos are the basic pentatonic scale and it works and never much shit from people. Like they say Rhett "if it ain't broke don't fix it"! If you ever need or want advice on anything look me up on FB! Always love to help others! Good luck Rhett and remember you ARE an amazing guitarist!-Michael Fives
You comments really mean a lot to me. I went through something that I bet was pretty similar to what you did with the church gig. Perhaps not. But one of the things I realized was that conformity is not art and just because someone, lets say the drummer or bass player, is really great on their instrument it does not mean that you are deficient on your own instrument. I realized that for me worship music was not my true expression but that I needed to create to get better. Stepping away from it was better for everyone. I accepted that I was not only not the best musician but also not the best fit. It was a very freeing discovery. Thank you for sharing your story.
I liked this one a lot for several reason. Artfully done in terms of the shots and dealing with the environmental challenges. :)
Also I think its fantastic that you are communicating this message. At almost 56 and only two years into playing, being Ok with not being good right out of the box is really important. So many people give up when they hit adversity they weren't prepared for, or when they simply can't do what they want in an unreasonable amount of time. Getting good takes time. A lot of time. For some more than others too. I know at my age I just don't absorb things as quickly as I used to and that is perfectky Ok. When I started this I gave my self 5 years to not suck. I'll still suck, but I'll be good enough that most people won't realize it. Lol!
Also, when you trade a pair of speaker for a '74 Strat in college, don't sell it a year before you finally make the decision to make a serious effort to learn how to play. haha!
"Music is not a competition, it's ART" 💯 Thank you for that Rhett...that is exactly how I feel & you expressed eloquently!!!
Rhett, congrats on recent steps you've taken. I stepped forward from the drumset after 14 years in bands led by others to form and lead a band from the front, to my vision (while playing marimba and vibraphone). So glad I did that, here 29 years after taking that step. And I've always had better musicians than me in the band and will forever be grateful for the time on the bandstand and more importantly, the lessons I learned from them. Agree totally with your comments on the right mindset to learn from (and enjoy!) the musicians around you. Last weekend's show was terrific!!!
I enjoy the story telling along with the musical insights. One thing that hit me while watching you light your grill is how you include clips of more than you looking at the camera and playing. It adds a different mood than just a professor in front of a class. Between that and some of what I believe is your original music as a soundtrack, they feel more like mini-documentaries which is cool.
humble and dedicated as you are , will make you grow as a human being and as a musician , all my respect Rhett keep on going !
Rhett your honesty is refreshing, it takes strength and character to open up this way. You are an amazing guitarist, an even better person. Learn and create!
Rhett, thank you so much for being so honest and communicative in this video. I enjoy seeing you on RB's channel as well. I suspect you're better than you think as a musician.
Rhett I like all your video's, this is the best one yet. You expressed alot of what others feel and experience. I've been the worst in the room more times than not. The last few years I've tried the learn from that and it has been successful especially with help from guys like you. After being in bands for 20 + I too am fronting my own band. It's cool and scary. One thing that helps that I've learned is leave the ego at home and play to your strength's .
PS love the live shows keep them coming.
It is amazing how I feel like I know you from a long time. Maybe because you are so transparent and share your thoughts and feelings and that is more than I get from my actual friends.
Thanks for being so candid about overcoming your guitar ego. I think all guitar players struggle with this so it’s helpful to hear your story.
I understand you want to be careful about what happened with your church experience, but I really appreciated you bringing it up. Church and the church music scene can be so toxic and harmful to who you are as a person. More people are hurt and thrown aside than anyone wants to admit and it's tragic for the loss of passion for music of aspiring musicians. Please feel free to talk about it and explain what happened. You'd be doing a lot of people a lot of good by sharing your experience.
Thanks for the transparency man! I have had a similar journey in my career. Once I started getting over the anxiety and threat from players better then I was, I started to be able to grow and learn to lead a band and be a better musician. I've been fired from a church gig along the way too, and its also a long story ( ;
Rhett, you nailed it. I was in the same situation way back when I played out for a living. Having to play up to everyone else was the best thing for me. Made me better!
Love your honesty and the fact that you're sharing your experience with us ! God bless you
I see a man with a lot of courage to speak so openly about his struggles, and you also show the wisdom to learn. You're half way there to become the greatest musician, keep going strong and believe in yourself! You only have to worry when you think you're there and stop learning.
Can you talk about some tips and don'ts about playing in churches? I think it will be valuable, because so many musician (especially young) play at churches to make a living. And sadly they encounter unpleasant experience with churches
I was approached many times in my younger days to play at a church. It never fit in with my ideas of the musician I wanted to be. I stick to my guns and in my bedroom .......
In hindsight I wished I had just for the experience .
I am a decidedly secular individual, and have had a couple of exceptional experiences playing in baptist churches (think blues brothers scene with James Brown). However, I've not pursued those religious venues at all because I felt that I was intruding in a way on something that was for the other participants was a deeply spiritual and genuine experience, and for me was a chance to play with an amazing rhythm section and AMAZING B3 player. I was left unmoved by the religion but totally improved my chops. It's a tricky thing.
I'll give you props. You've mastered the Neistat sensory vibe. Good production.
It's a great feeling to be the "worst" player in the room. That means you have some "special" talent around you and folks you can learn from.
In my old band my singer/ rythm guitar, songwriter use to say the same about himself.
He taught me how to write, arrange, play melodies and how to have my lead guitar voice to "serve" the song not overplay or in a style that fits the song.
Years later he heard some of my music and he said I've come a long way.
Like I always say I'm not reinventing the wheel and I don't suck however I can hold my own and I continue to have an open mind.
There are guitar players that can play circles around me. It use to bother me in my 20's and 30's now in my early 50's I look at it as an opportunity to learn, grow and refine my own style.
So I totally get where you are coming from Rhett.
Thank you for the post. Your number one goosenecking bro from Chicago
This stuff is my favorite content of yours Rhett ( other than maybe your preshow/show Vlogs ). It reminds us that we are all human and even those of us that are fantastic players still suffer from Ego and human issues. Thanks!!
I was really getting in my own head today about similar things. Mainly about being a band leader and not being the best player in the room. This helped tremendously, and couldn’t have shown up in my youtube feed at a better time. Thank you, Rhett!
Great topic Rhett, it's an often overlooked part of the musical journey that is worth a deep dive. Being the worst in a room of musicians who will lift you up is the best situation you can be in (and something that you should always remember when you are the best in the room!!).
You are the kind of person that is great to be in the room with. The most important is honesty. And that is booth as a person and as an artist. This is a my experience from many years as an actor at a repertoar Theatre. And lot’s of gigs as a drummer.🎧🙏🏻💥Thank’s for sharing.
I'm glad you're finding peace within your playing. I enjoy listening to you play. I don't care if you're the best. That's a relative term. Live long, love, and prosper.
Thank you, very honest and humble. It's hard to put that ego away - or it always has been for me. But it's the only way we can open ourselves to learning. Really enjoying your channel.
Good point for juniors - surround yourself wherever possible with the best. One of the key learnings for me was to stop worrying about my playing, but instead, how I want to make a contribution to the song and the sound. Its got to be about the song and the music - not showing off your chops.
Thanks for sharing Rhett...very helpful thoughts for myself and I am sure many other musicians. 🏆
I think this video was, in my opinion, one of the most important you've ever made! I think for someone in your position, someone who has a lot of followers and inspires a heck of a lot of people, to touch on mental health, and talk about a fairly vulnerable topic, is so so important and for that I commend you!
Also, I just want to say a massive thank you for putting on these live shows. You, Jamie, Chad and Phil have inspired me more musically in the past 3 shows than I have felt in a long, long time. I've felt myself in a huge musical rut for ages now and these live shows have made me realise what I want to be doing with my music in the future, so thank you! If I manage to inspire just one person with my music in the future the way that you guys have inspired me with yours, that'll be more than enough for me! Thanks guys, can't wait for the next show!
"Try to put yourself in a position where you're the worst player in the room"
Dude, I'm the worst player in EVERY room.
Hold my beer boy !, let me show you what garbage sounding really is
Great video! You really hit home on a lot of issues with me when I started playing out when I was getting back into music. I was always anxious and feeling like I couldn't play well and no matter how hard I practiced there was no way I could get better. It was a humbling experience and I struggled with it for a long time and still do. I learned and am still learning to let go of a lot of those topics causing anxiety and I realized that if the people who are better than you are good and mature then they will help you instead of belittle you. If anyone was tearing me down I would see them for who they are.
Thanks for this Rhett. As a fellow guitarist in a new project and also the least talented person in the room, I really appreciate the insight. Why is it that playing in front of non musicians doesn’t bother me but playing in front of other talented musicians is so terrifying? When I first started with my new band, I was so nervous and made all kinds of beginner mistakes, my hands would stiffen, etc. I decided to be open about my anxiety instead of making excuses and have come to realize many other musicians really suffer from the same issues as I do. As we’ve become better friends the anxiety is less crippling, but it’s still there. Now when I feel the anxiety coming on, I remind myself “this is what living feels like”...I am participating in creation of art which is the most human thing you can do. Seeing someone as talented as you talk about this is very inspirational...so thanks for that!!
Thank you for talking about this!
Really nice of you opening up. Ive played with some unbelievable players and when i were younger i felt exactly the same. Now if i play with someone whos better than me im straight up trying to learn from them
Hi Rhett - thanks for sharing! I appreciated your openness and transparency in the issues that you face in the place in life where you have now come to. Your anecdote about the mega church is interesting - and saddening. As I write this, I have just come off a Church Zoom meeting of my own. There were just about 20 of us participating in worship together - and leading the music was a total non-professional musician with just her voice and her acoustic guitar. I felt so much more connected to God in participating in the simplicity and "non-professional-ness " of this moment than many other occasions of big Church worship, where its more about the personalities and the performance rather than the object of Who is being worshipped.
Keep on rocking!!
Rick taught you well and thanks for the monthly show I look forward to it every month and rant and rave about how they keep getting better! Stay humble it will serve you well.
So here's the thing about leadership Rhett. My perspective from my experiences, which actually some I can't get into.
There are natural born leaders. But they range the scale from humble and astute to downright lousy and egotistical.
Both get the job done regardless but it's what they impart on those they lead that counts. A true leader wants to learn more and leave that knowledge with others and not feel threatened.
Very few have the ability to leave the ego behind and elevate others.
I've found that those who experience the range of knowledge on a particular subject from amateur through expert and remain humble and self critical are the best leaders.
This sounds just like you.
Questioning if you're ready for the role means you have been brought to the point where you're much more ready than those who think they deserve it.
You're open to ideas and have a grasp on your position in your life musically and collaboratively.
You're ready.
The best leaders I've ever worked with(notice I didn't say "for") were not the best at the thing we were doing, they were the best at managing the relationships of those that were the best at their craft.
I feel this type of content is extremely valuable. Well done, and your point in this one is good for folks to hear.
The flip side of it can be knowing you are the worst player in the room and letting that make you feel inadequate and steal your confidence. When one becomes tentative as a result it robs your ability to truly connect to the music and the other players.
Even if a newer, relatively inexperienced, or even long time player who isn’t particularly gifted or highly developed, there is a place for everyone to plug into the music being played no matter the experience or talent of the other players. Getting into the “flow” of the music and becoming part of it is a magical experience. It’s ok to try things and make mistakes while finding your respective “space” in any group of players. Once you find that space where you contribute something without taking away from the overall it’s awesome and rewarding.
At the end of it all it’s far better to be the worst in the room because there is much to learn from others. My greatest growth as a player has come from playing with others who were vastly beyond me at the time. I’ve always struggled with confidence in those settings while at the same time being grateful for the opportunity. Only recently have I begun to start appreciating my ability to make valuable and worthwhile contributions no matter the level of players around me.
The most important thing is to enjoy playing no matter your level and to not let being the worst in the room dampen your passion or enthusiasm but to let all that come out in your playing. I only share this as an encouragement to others who may struggle with the same confidence issues. If you love to play, no matter your level, let that love come through your playing.
The thoughts in this video demonstrate both outstanding life skill and musical maturity. Congrats Rhett!
Man. Your videos are super well made, congrats for your job seriously, you make me want to play guitar, practice and thanks to your tips, getting better and better!
Thanks
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Hi Rhett, very good advice, being mentally open to learn music, and that it becomes part of ours life's, is precisely what I have been trying to do for 4 years. I started very late, but I WILL NOT give up. Thanks.
Everyone picking up the guitar, or any instrument for that matter should listen to this. I love how you put it in perspective. "It's not a competition, it's art/it's expression". Many a band would do well to hear and remember this. Great vid, thanks!
Very relevant and wise Rhett. I enjoy these road experience videos a lot, gives us a chance to share your experiences and relate them to our own from a different perspective.
LOL So was I Rhett. I'm not all that fast, fancy, or great at improvisation. I started playing guitar at age 12. i am 60 now and still LEARNING.
Back in 1986 I sat in on a gig (The Mr.West Club in Newark, NJ) with some friends and this very well known guitarist from
Pittsburg,PA happen to come in that night. Long story short, he told me I have a good tone but Great touch and to keep developing your voice. I did not sing that night and it took me a few days to realize he was still talking about my playing.
We are individuals with different GIFTS within our art. No one is the "worst player in the room" I admire all musicians (especially guitarist) but we must run our own race and keep developing our own voice.
From that night on is who I have been as a musician. Be yourself don't worry about no one else.
Best Video on the internet. I play bass and just joined a fusion(ish) trio, these guys are lightyears ahead,
i am working my ass off to learn and play the music. This was a good video to watch today.
Can't tell you how much I appreciate hearing your perspective on this topic! It really hits me where I live.
Rhett - great video. Thanks for sharing some excellent lessons for music and for life here. Being comfortable all the time as a player is not the way to grow as a player, but a humans we naturally avoid discomfort. I have let this very thing affect my live playing for most of my amateur playing career (a couple of decades of gigging live). I am almost always the worst player in the room. I have been laughed at a couple times by audience members at shows who were better players and I let that get inside my head. I have learned a lot of what you covered here - but it took me a lot longer to get there than it did for you. Thanks for 'baring your soul' to all us hopefully hacks out here in viewer land. Your humanity/humility is refreshing from a player of your caliber and inspiring to a lot of people. Never stop growing.
This video is totally necessary. Thanks man, I realised that I always put myself that pressure to be the best player around. Relief man... Relief
Perfectly said, Rhett. I've always been cowered by the fact that I'm not Beck, or Gilmour, or Page, or Carlton; pick one. It has caused great damage to my growth, not accepting the player I am NOW, and realizing it's a path and not a gift. Feeling comfortable with players beyond my skill is still difficult, but you're right: be in the room with the right mindset and contribute what you can! Thanks, man...
This is such good perspective. It's hard to make that turn from being intimidated to being ready to soak up everything you can from better players. Im often the worst guy in the room so I've had lots of practice. 😂 Great video and advice!
Excellent episode! “Music is not a competition, it is an expression of art” says it all ( I plan to steal this quote and use it heavily with my guitar students). This is why I despise these competition shows like American Idol, The Voice, etc. I am 67 years old and just a bit pig headed it’s taken me this long to become comfortable with myself as a player. My niche is as a fingerstyle acoustic guitarist. I love to play electric guitar but, as much as I wanted to be Carlton, Clapton, Beck or Page, I know that’s not going to happen.
I've been watching for a while. I really appreciate your honesty, and your willingness to mentor and share with others.
Thanks Nathan
I’m just focused on being the best player I can be. I agree with Rhett, it helps to play with better musicians as often as possible to inspire you to get better (if that’s what your goal is). And I admire Rhett for that - I’m double his age and I always thought I had to get better to play live and of course it leads to slow gains if that’s your approach. Keep on doing what you’re doing, Rhett!
This is the tipe of video that I need to see
Thanks Rhett