The "carpet pages" before each Book seem to mirror Islamic and eastern christian prayer rugs from this period - quite beautiful and meaningful in an ecumenical sense and also to symbolically "prepare" the readers for prayer into each Gospel. Bede mentions the use of such prayer mats at this time.
If Aldred added English translations to the Gospels in the late 10th century (according to the British Museum), then this was long after the Synod of Whitby in 664 and the relocation of church authority to York. This seems pretty defiant of Rome don't you think?
They did claim a territory, it was Kent. They settled in isle of wight also, but were eventually assimilated by the saxons there. The kingdom of Kent was often under the sway of other more powerful kingdoms. Guess thats why they're not mentioned as much.
V P Chester-Le-Street is a place, the church where the Lindisfarne Community and Cuthbert himself rested for a while before he ended up at Durham. “when driven out of Lindisfarne by Viking raids in 875 the monks took St Cuthbert's coffin along with other valuable items. They wandered for seven years before eventually settling at Chester-le-Street (then called Cunecaster or Conceastre), at the site of the old Roman fort of Concangis, in 883, on land granted to them by Guthred.”
Alex Moody I cannot be certain but I do not think so. In the sense that I cannot find evidence that they had that formal status in their homeland. They were certainly working for and with the Roman Army and Cavalry in Britain though. Perhaps they had a less formal status?
"I want ma baby skin!" "Tha there looks like a bab-eh!" "I want my babyskin babyskin babyskin babyskin babyskin babyskin baby back skin! I want my babyskin babyskin..."
The Irish contribution via Iona, Saint Columba and Saint Aiden is crucial to the story of Northumbrian Christianity and insular art. It just wasn't the focus of this piece.
So it was cowskin, not calf skin? Then I'm guessing it was rougher. Also, I thought they took skins and folded them, then cut the fold in a way to make pages that could be turned (called a folio). Each skin might create 4 to 8 pages, so a 200 page book wouldn't involve as many as 100 cows. Maybe half that. Just being a pedant. :^) 10:20 - Gloomy? Check your electric light privilege, shitlord. /s
No Free Will Indeed, Calf skin was better, in fact aborted calves were most highly prized as they hadn't been touch by the weather or had a chance to gain scars or other blemishes. Re: The folio - indeed! I was doing a generous upper estimate. 'Up to'. Though, still a great many animals :) Re: gloomy - Indeed what a cheater! ;p
Still, I wonder if there were any books out there that had to make do with cowskin rather than calf fetuses? God knows, you'd choose to avoid aborting an animal every now and then. o.0 It seems like they went to great lengths to make it as disgusting as possible, what with the tanning process and way they got stains out of their clothes, the way they fullered wool to get it tighter, etc. But, it could be that nature simply doesn't like us humans. :/
No Free Will Oh certainly! I cannot quite remember where but I have seen Medieval texts written on 'lower quality' vellum where the shadow of a cow's brown or black 'n'white markings can be seen as two distinct shades! While I'm not convinced monks would condone induced abortions, as opposed to natural miscarriages - yes, it does sometimes seem that they were aiming for gross-ness! That said, many refined products do seem to rely on noxious or dangerous chemicals and materials. Today, we have the luxury of such chemicals being made and bottled either artificially or commercially. In the past, powerful chemical agents such as, for example, ammonia for bleaching had to be found more 'locally'. In Medieval cloth-producing towns tradesmen would have their shops near to (or even above) pubs! Punters who were a few pints down could conveniently relieve themselves to the benefit of the town's industry via a steady... stream, of urine supply ;p
Not every calf skin or part of calf skin was considered usable. There are many surviving manuscripts that utilized lesser grade vellum which are rougher, have holes after the stretching of the skin from insect bites while the cow was alive, discoloration, etc. Only the best skins would be used for something as grand as the Lindisfarne Gospels. This why you would need to provide a higher estimation of the usage of animals to obtain the skins necessary for a project of that scale.
I do not say this of many RUclips videos, in fact I haven't said it off any until now; this was a truly beautiful video.
Really well done. Thanks very much.
The "carpet pages" before each Book seem to mirror Islamic and eastern christian prayer rugs from this period - quite beautiful and meaningful in an ecumenical sense and also to symbolically "prepare" the readers for prayer into each Gospel. Bede mentions the use of such prayer mats at this time.
The books don't mirror Islam as they predate it.
It was fun to see the map as I enjoy watching Vikings on the history channel, and enjoying seeing where arias depicted on the show are.
Somebody should make a high-quality TV series about this!
Excellent thanks
Sheer delightful! Blown away by the similarity of the calligaphy to persian and later Islamic styles
Love this one
You speech is very clear and easy to follow
Who wrote C's history..Bede?
The Douay Rheims Bible was printed in English years before the King James version.
If Aldred added English translations to the Gospels in the late 10th century (according to the British Museum), then this was long after the Synod of Whitby in 664 and the relocation of church authority to York. This seems pretty defiant of Rome don't you think?
ThNks
Was it the Vikings that took the original cover ?
Many facts stated need rechecked
All knowledge is subject to change :)
northumberland, hence, north of the humber
what happened to the Jutes? I've heard of them before. why didn't they claim a territory? Was it religious, or political or what? thanks
They did claim a territory, it was Kent. They settled in isle of wight also, but were eventually assimilated by the saxons there. The kingdom of Kent was often under the sway of other more powerful kingdoms. Guess thats why they're not mentioned as much.
Will Raine thanks so much for your response.
Excellent response :D
if Aldred wrote the post-script, then who is Chester-Le-Street, the signatory?
V P Chester-Le-Street is a place, the church where the Lindisfarne Community and Cuthbert himself rested for a while before he ended up at Durham.
“when driven out of Lindisfarne by Viking raids in 875 the monks took St Cuthbert's coffin along with other valuable items. They wandered for seven years before eventually settling at Chester-le-Street (then called Cunecaster or Conceastre), at the site of the old Roman fort of Concangis, in 883, on land granted to them by Guthred.”
Who is narrating? Sounds like Peter Sallis.
Was velum cow's skin or the skin taken from small children's back? :(
Alex Moody Cow or calf skin.
Also while I've got you, do you believe the angles, Saxons and Jutes to be foederatus
Alex Moody I cannot be certain but I do not think so. In the sense that I cannot find evidence that they had that formal status in their homeland. They were certainly working for and with the Roman Army and Cavalry in Britain though. Perhaps they had a less formal status?
Thank you for your time and thoughts :)
"I want ma baby skin!" "Tha there looks like a bab-eh!"
"I want my babyskin babyskin babyskin babyskin babyskin babyskin baby back skin! I want my babyskin babyskin..."
And the word ‘Irish’ shall not be uttered. You would think this culture dropped from Heaven.
The Irish contribution via Iona, Saint Columba and Saint Aiden is crucial to the story of Northumbrian Christianity and insular art. It just wasn't the focus of this piece.
@@Archaeos0up I appreciate your reply
So it was cowskin, not calf skin? Then I'm guessing it was rougher.
Also, I thought they took skins and folded them, then cut the fold in a way to make pages that could be turned (called a folio). Each skin might create 4 to 8 pages, so a 200 page book wouldn't involve as many as 100 cows. Maybe half that.
Just being a pedant. :^)
10:20 - Gloomy? Check your electric light privilege, shitlord. /s
No Free Will Indeed, Calf skin was better, in fact aborted calves were most highly prized as they hadn't been touch by the weather or had a chance to gain scars or other blemishes.
Re: The folio - indeed! I was doing a generous upper estimate. 'Up to'. Though, still a great many animals :)
Re: gloomy - Indeed what a cheater! ;p
Still, I wonder if there were any books out there that had to make do with cowskin rather than calf fetuses?
God knows, you'd choose to avoid aborting an animal every now and then. o.0
It seems like they went to great lengths to make it as disgusting as possible, what with the tanning process and way they got stains out of their clothes, the way they fullered wool to get it tighter, etc. But, it could be that nature simply doesn't like us humans. :/
No Free Will Oh certainly! I cannot quite remember where but I have seen Medieval texts written on 'lower quality' vellum where the shadow of a cow's brown or black 'n'white markings can be seen as two distinct shades!
While I'm not convinced monks would condone induced abortions, as opposed to natural miscarriages - yes, it does sometimes seem that they were aiming for gross-ness!
That said, many refined products do seem to rely on noxious or dangerous chemicals and materials. Today, we have the luxury of such chemicals being made and bottled either artificially or commercially. In the past, powerful chemical agents such as, for example, ammonia for bleaching had to be found more 'locally'. In Medieval cloth-producing towns tradesmen would have their shops near to (or even above) pubs! Punters who were a few pints down could conveniently relieve themselves to the benefit of the town's industry via a steady... stream, of urine supply ;p
Not every calf skin or part of calf skin was considered usable. There are many surviving manuscripts that utilized lesser grade vellum which are rougher, have holes after the stretching of the skin from insect bites while the cow was alive, discoloration, etc. Only the best skins would be used for something as grand as the Lindisfarne Gospels. This why you would need to provide a higher estimation of the usage of animals to obtain the skins necessary for a project of that scale.