I remember watching this series when it first aired back in 1994 this episode is the one I was looking for because I remember this bloke talking about the maestro he was given
A thief stole a Maestro and took it for a joyride according to police, local paper ran this headline, "first time joy and Maestro used in the same sentence".
My grandfather bought my father a brand new Maestro on there release and traded in my fathers Rover 214 as part exchange. My father cursed him as he drove away from the dealer and lasted a whole six weeks before trading it back in 😂😂 absolutely woeful car.
It's a real snapshot in time. It was shot in mid 1992 (there's a billboard ad for the pre facelift Cavalier SRi and GSi) right before the Mondeo, Xantia, Carina E, Rover 600, GM Saab 900 and Laguna were released and the Cavalier (which was facelifted at the same time) had been the top dog rep car for the previous few years. It'd have been interesting to do a follow up on them to see what cars they got next. I would love to track down the Cavalier GL 2.0i driver and find out if he ever did get the Mazda 626 or Calibra. Crazy to think they're all mostly in their 60s/70s now. Motorway speeds were at their peak in the early 90s too. You can see the Astra and Cavalier cruising at 90 and the police - who were much more prevalent on the motorway network prior to the widespread adoption of cameras - weren't bothered back then as long as you didn't push on to a ton. Many lorries didn't have speed limiters back then either and would cruise at over 60mph.
Peak freedom, little did we know it. When out & about, nobody knew where you were unless you called in. I used to like that feeling a lot. It’s gone forever. Now, if you’re not reachable, it’s considered odd by many. Me, I am retired. When I go out, if it’s not far, I leave my mobile at home. If it’s a long journey, I turn it off and leave it in my bag in the back of the car. Obviously we’re all tracked by ANPR now anyway. I don’t like this. Not in itself, but it’s the direction of travel. It’s not stopping like it is. Soon, every person will be tracked 24/7.
I think the guy in the CD saloon Astra who expressed the disappointment of it not having a CD badge on the boot should have gone all out and put a huge red CD graphic strip in the front and rear windows followed by a metal badge on the boot. It is very important to him that people see that he is a manager and not a rep.
Cause it didn't have a fancy badge on it there a good looking car we had a Belmont for 13yrs it was also a decent looking car but you won't praise that one either, badge snob!
@@dieselstreet8057 might not have been a bad car, but hardly wonderful looking! I would say the same thing about any car regardless of it badge - you inverted snob!
My father in law was obsessed by the i for injection, it was so fucking insane, he would speak to everybody that would listen regarding the injection, even his bloody wife would go on about it, i drove a dolomite sprint with twin carbs, with the 1850 engine, when my then girlfriend mouthed off within earshot of her parents about me having a bigger engine than her dads car, his wife quick as a flash mouthed the following, "your dad has the injection", i pissed myself laughing.
lol.... and I recall the shift from carbs to injection...I did vehicle graphics in the end of 80s and did a lot of 'INJECTION' stickers and designs. But hey why not? it was showing off you had the latest and best??
@@thomashumber9762 yes I agree, but what I had to endure was insane from a couple in their 50's, every chance they got they bored their audience to tears, it was a fixation for some and this video depicts them in droves.
Camshaft placement, valve count and fuel delivery method used to be a thing. Now all those we take as they are and practically never mention them. Even when talking about cars in a conversation. Now they are as mundane details as car tyres are round.
That's because back then you still had some new cars with OHV carbureted engines with manual chocke and a distributor. EFI was a rare feature reserved for sports cars just 10 years before that documentary. Actually the Primera in 92 was quite ahead of its time by offering a DOHC 16 valves EFI engine with electronic ignition on most of its range and treating this as something normal.
8:15 when the Blue Carlton reversed - MK 1 cavalier coupe (!) you can just see the two guys walk past it. Dad had a pre-front end facelift GL 2.0i Mk 3 like the white one (his was maroon) also on an H plate. His last company car before retiring around '93. Went through at least one of every marque of Cortina, sierras and ended up with the GL 2.0i thing was rapid...
I had a Cav 1.8L I think. Near new ex reps cars, massive discount to regular staff. I felt like a king, driving that. A few years later I bought an ex reps VW Golf GTi Turbo in black, with leather Recaros and a CD multichanger. I was on air. Kept Mk4s for a decade. Good cars.
I listen to that song often in my car - particularly the part before where the note goes very deep a few times over. I do things like that he was shown doing - perhaps you just don't appreciate the music in the same way?? Classical music helps one to think critically about their driving and doesn't cause a mental distraction like - say - pop music does (which muddles the brain and discipline). Music has a very powerful influence on how one goes about even many subconscious actions. Moreover, I ONLY play it on dedicated formats, such as CD or MP3, as interruptions are extremely unwelcome. Particularly irritating adverts. I think it was good of him to be himself about this matter, as opposed to being conformist in his behaviour. That would be suffocating to me.
I laughed when the white montego driver expressed disdain over his jacket hook breaking off. Austin Rover never dreamed their cars would ever be sold to fleet buyers, presumably.
Not after he & his wife wept over the car he’d been given. He probably couldn’t have any more children after that & his wife would have questioned the wisdom of having any more with such a beta male, anyway.
The services area was super clean unlike today and a lot less cars and people...thanks Tony Blair who made us over crowded. Suits!!! ..and not f in Polo shirts with tacky embriodery as we now get.... no crocs and chavs in shorts either.
"the luxury astra range", FFS. Jesus this is depressing, was it really like that, I don't remember it being that bad in the early 90s. The w124 was a great car though, and still nice today, the rest are shitboxes
It was still the same up until the end of the GM Astras. The luxury range topper was the Elite and the sporty model had the SRi or VXR on the GTC 3 door
@@rickerbyct that's not really true. Sales still very much still exists as a profession, with the majority of sales now being mostly phone / Zoom-based - even more so since the pandemic. If you're a manufacturing firm selling 'widgets' or such like, then the chances are you still have a sales team who travel around the country like they always have. The days of reps working in vacuum cleaner sales, for example, are long gone. B2B sales is still alive and well.
Photo copiers, fax machines, building and plumbing supplies, computers, catering equipment, you name it. Reps started to die out as broadband internet and communication tech developed greatly in the late 2000s
I’d say this is real. This is how it was. My dad was offered had a Carlton L back in the late 80s early 90s and when it was time to replace had to move up to the CDX or said he would leave the company. The competition among company car drivers was very real.
I think these weren't exactly documentaries. Interviews were conducted with sales reps and, based on what they said, the scenes you see were acted. It's designed to appear that sad, self-unaware salesman are obsessed with the status conveyed by their cars, and it's essentially fake.
@@justas525 Online information about this is very scarce and I'm not about to buy a physical copies of brochures to get confirmation. I would think that perhaps it was not even offered as an option at all in these cars but only in more expensive models to begin with.
Indeed and to think these lot will be describing the generations that followed - who don’t get fully expensed company cars for doing bugger all - as snowflakes.
It’s typical of competitive workers of the day. Remember you’re looking at people who compete for a living. Most of us aren’t modern day gladiators. We accept a position in a company someone else sweated to start & grow and get used to fixed monthly salaries, perhaps with a bonus. The salespeople get on if they’re good at selling. Or, they’re gone. There are few outward signs of progress, so people grow attached to those that are available. Typically they’re ranked against one another. If you’re not always trying to be in the top slice, you will be mown down from behind by someone hungrier than you. I’d hate it. But I’ve met some people who could sell anything and ended up being very wealthy, after a career of selling everything that was going around when they were working, eg kitchens, double glazing, cars, mobile phones, etc. It’s far from easy to do more than average in sales.
Just ludicrous. All this concern over status and what people think of them and how important a particular metal and plastic box on wheels is. Are these types of thoughts normal for neurotypicals? Sad men.
Amazing how some of these classics looked knackered even when brand new.
Nothing like a missing wheel trim to massively lower the tone of a Cavalier 😂
I remember watching this series when it first aired back in 1994 this episode is the one I was looking for because I remember this bloke talking about the maestro he was given
Getting demoted from a cavalier to a diesel maestro, poor bastard 🙈
and him and the wife in tears over it, I don’t blame them lol
A thief stole a Maestro and took it for a joyride according to police, local paper ran this headline, "first time joy and Maestro used in the same sentence".
My grandfather bought my father a brand new Maestro on there release and traded in my fathers Rover 214 as part exchange. My father cursed him as he drove away from the dealer and lasted a whole six weeks before trading it back in 😂😂 absolutely woeful car.
The chap in the Astra might be excited about his leather covered gear knob, but the knob on the driver's seat is still clad in polyester.
Pmsl, exactly!
And an Astra CDX is nothing to brag about anyway, especially in White. White just YELLS econobox, regardless of the interior spec.
Classic
Both car and driver are the definition of mediocrity
You're such a muppet with a massive superioty complex
Haters gonna hate
First saw this years ago. I literally struggle to think of finer TV gold. Im absolutely convinced Steve Coogan watched this and created Alan Partridge
100% 😆
Also for coogans run Garth cheeseman
@alwoo5645 you're a tiger ROOOAAARRR
Brilliant. Loved every minute. What a great documentary. Thanks for uploading.
It's a real snapshot in time. It was shot in mid 1992 (there's a billboard ad for the pre facelift Cavalier SRi and GSi) right before the Mondeo, Xantia, Carina E, Rover 600, GM Saab 900 and Laguna were released and the Cavalier (which was facelifted at the same time) had been the top dog rep car for the previous few years. It'd have been interesting to do a follow up on them to see what cars they got next.
I would love to track down the Cavalier GL 2.0i driver and find out if he ever did get the Mazda 626 or Calibra. Crazy to think they're all mostly in their 60s/70s now.
Motorway speeds were at their peak in the early 90s too. You can see the Astra and Cavalier cruising at 90 and the police - who were much more prevalent on the motorway network prior to the widespread adoption of cameras - weren't bothered back then as long as you didn't push on to a ton.
Many lorries didn't have speed limiters back then either and would cruise at over 60mph.
Dougie...I clocked that ad. Glad you did too
Peak freedom, little did we know it.
When out & about, nobody knew where you were unless you called in.
I used to like that feeling a lot.
It’s gone forever. Now, if you’re not reachable, it’s considered odd by many.
Me, I am retired. When I go out, if it’s not far, I leave my mobile at home. If it’s a long journey, I turn it off and leave it in my bag in the back of the car.
Obviously we’re all tracked by ANPR now anyway. I don’t like this. Not in itself, but it’s the direction of travel. It’s not stopping like it is. Soon, every person will be tracked 24/7.
I think the guy in the CD saloon Astra who expressed the disappointment of it not having a CD badge on the boot should have gone all out and put a huge red CD graphic strip in the front and rear windows followed by a metal badge on the boot. It is very important to him that people see that he is a manager and not a rep.
Some amazing tailgating at 10:28 😂
No one else ever said a MK3 Astra saloon was a wonderful looking motor car
Yes and would anyone care if it was a CD Astra or not. Pathetic small minded nothing else in there lives make me laugh.
His mother?.
Cause it didn't have a fancy badge on it there a good looking car we had a Belmont for 13yrs it was also a decent looking car but you won't praise that one either, badge snob!
@@dieselstreet8057 might not have been a bad car, but hardly wonderful looking! I would say the same thing about any car regardless of it badge - you inverted snob!
Dartford bridge 90p those were the days. Imagine all the 10p coins rattling around in cars.
34:36 Maestro section is RUclips GOLD
Tragic!
You could feel his pain. Wish I could’ve given him my upgrade - he would’ve appreciated it more than me
HAHA SURE IS
@@teddy1066Agreed. He could have had my Golf. I couldn’t care less, especially these days of hardly driving anymore.
Compared to the other heaps in the beginning of the video, the E36 BMW at the end was miles ahead, still a nice car today.
They were rubbish rot boxes
My father in law was obsessed by the i for injection, it was so fucking insane, he would speak to everybody that would listen regarding the injection, even his bloody wife would go on about it, i drove a dolomite sprint with twin carbs, with the 1850 engine, when my then girlfriend mouthed off within earshot of her parents about me having a bigger engine than her dads car, his wife quick as a flash mouthed the following, "your dad has the injection", i pissed myself laughing.
Like her dad shoots a bigger load with a smaller penis, ROTFPMSL 🤣🤣🤣
lol.... and I recall the shift from carbs to injection...I did vehicle graphics in the end of 80s and did a lot of 'INJECTION' stickers and designs. But hey why not? it was showing off you had the latest and best??
@@thomashumber9762 yes I agree, but what I had to endure was insane from a couple in their 50's, every chance they got they bored their audience to tears, it was a fixation for some and this video depicts them in droves.
Camshaft placement, valve count and fuel delivery method used to be a thing. Now all those we take as they are and practically never mention them. Even when talking about cars in a conversation. Now they are as mundane details as car tyres are round.
That's because back then you still had some new cars with OHV carbureted engines with manual chocke and a distributor. EFI was a rare feature reserved for sports cars just 10 years before that documentary.
Actually the Primera in 92 was quite ahead of its time by offering a DOHC 16 valves EFI engine with electronic ignition on most of its range and treating this as something normal.
34:36 - "This Maestro is crap, I feel like the company have sh*t on me, for want of a better word" haha!
Can you blame him, really? Poor chap even cried when the company replaced his 2 litre Cavalier with a diesel Maestro.
Poor chap. If I was in his situation I probably would have asked to keep the Cavalier!
It was only taxed for two years. Maybe he got so depressed, that he either torched the car, or drove it over a cliff.
Legend has it he was buried in the maestro
8:15 when the Blue Carlton reversed - MK 1 cavalier coupe (!) you can just see the two guys walk past it.
Dad had a pre-front end facelift GL 2.0i Mk 3 like the white one (his was maroon) also on an H plate. His last company car before retiring around '93. Went through at least one of every marque of Cortina, sierras and ended up with the GL 2.0i thing was rapid...
12:08 He totally blocks two or three cars from leaving if he left it there.
I owned loads of vauxhall cavalier mk3 Sri and cdx great cars good old 90s 😂
I had a Cav 1.8L I think. Near new ex reps cars, massive discount to regular staff. I felt like a king, driving that. A few years later I bought an ex reps VW Golf GTi Turbo in black, with leather Recaros and a CD multichanger. I was on air. Kept Mk4s for a decade. Good cars.
Little did he know, he was bang on about diesels and environmentalists
The first texting whilst driving in the outside lane recorded lol
Do we thinl the guy listening to the classical music is playing to the camera with his tapping to the sound.....what a balloon.
I listen to that song often in my car - particularly the part before where the note goes very deep a few times over.
I do things like that he was shown doing - perhaps you just don't appreciate the music in the same way??
Classical music helps one to think critically about their driving and doesn't cause a mental distraction like - say - pop music does (which muddles the brain and discipline).
Music has a very powerful influence on how one goes about even many subconscious actions.
Moreover, I ONLY play it on dedicated formats, such as CD or MP3, as interruptions are extremely unwelcome. Particularly irritating adverts.
I think it was good of him to be himself about this matter, as opposed to being conformist in his behaviour.
That would be suffocating to me.
Austin rover guy got shafted
I laughed when the white montego driver expressed disdain over his jacket hook breaking off.
Austin Rover never dreamed their cars would ever be sold to fleet buyers, presumably.
I just love how this lot sell the cars to themselves... except the chap in the maestro, he just couldn't sell could he.
Not after he & his wife wept over the car he’d been given.
He probably couldn’t have any more children after that & his wife would have questioned the wisdom of having any more with such a beta male, anyway.
Little Chef is a rare sight these days
That E36 at 7 mins or so still exists as SORN. Most of these rep cars would have been run into the ground long ago.
Little Chef little plates how you can be so snobby about a car you didn't buy I don't know
The services area was super clean unlike today and a lot less cars and people...thanks Tony Blair who made us over crowded. Suits!!! ..and not f in Polo shirts with tacky embriodery as we now get.... no crocs and chavs in shorts either.
If you had a proper job you could buy what you want and wear jeans just like Richard Branson
Mpg
"the luxury astra range", FFS. Jesus this is depressing, was it really like that, I don't remember it being that bad in the early 90s. The w124 was a great car though, and still nice today, the rest are shitboxes
It was still the same up until the end of the GM Astras. The luxury range topper was the Elite and the sporty model had the SRi or VXR on the GTC 3 door
Lmfao have you ever even driven a merc w124 fml get a life all good motors back then!
I often wonder what all these "reps" actually sell that they have to drive all over the country?
This programme dates from the early 90s. Sales reps were replaced by websites in the early 00s!
Kirby vacuum cleaners, probably, or spare parts.
They had to travel a lot, as there were only one Kirby owner per each town.
Road maps?
@@rickerbyct that's not really true. Sales still very much still exists as a profession, with the majority of sales now being mostly phone / Zoom-based - even more so since the pandemic. If you're a manufacturing firm selling 'widgets' or such like, then the chances are you still have a sales team who travel around the country like they always have. The days of reps working in vacuum cleaner sales, for example, are long gone. B2B sales is still alive and well.
Photo copiers, fax machines, building and plumbing supplies, computers, catering equipment, you name it. Reps started to die out as broadband internet and communication tech developed greatly in the late 2000s
This has got to be a spoof
So no BOSS hangers?
XR2 driver, what a knob accelerating in the middle lane to over 80 to avoid a car overtaking just to prove a point......if this is real
It has to be real 😂 I face this nonsense every single day
I’d say this is real. This is how it was. My dad was offered had a Carlton L back in the late 80s early 90s and when it was time to replace had to move up to the CDX or said he would leave the company. The competition among company car drivers was very real.
Excuse me...XR2 iiiiiiiiii...!!!!!!!!!...just kidding, betcha he wouldn't be :)
It's a xr you have to 😁
@@chucky2316 Perhaps you meant to type "an XR"...
I think these weren't exactly documentaries. Interviews were conducted with sales reps and, based on what they said, the scenes you see were acted. It's designed to appear that sad, self-unaware salesman are obsessed with the status conveyed by their cars, and it's essentially fake.
So you are telling me that finding people that shallow woulnd't be possible. I wish I could be that optimistic about humans too.
rubbish
Did even one of them mention cruise control?
Well actually no. Because back then cruise control was costly option
@@justas525 Online information about this is very scarce and I'm not about to buy a physical copies of brochures to get confirmation. I would think that perhaps it was not even offered as an option at all in these cars but only in more expensive models to begin with.
I bet none of these even had a/c
@@alexanderstefanov6474 well of course no. Car makers began to offer A/C in base spec around 2000 I think
@@Kyntteri well it was offered but it was very expensive I assume, they could get a few cheaper options from the list
Surely a wind up!
The Merc lasted till 2014!
It still exists and is just registered as SORN.
Some of these people are irritating beyond belief. So what if the car behind you is a lower specification?
What about a Granada? Better than all those shit. Boxes
True but that's not what televisions all about is it! 2.9 v6 4x4 estate for me btw what a good car
Alan Partridge on steroids man 🙄😜
All worse than Chris Finch
Bloody good rep
We can safely conclude that sales reps are pure bellends
Indeed and to think these lot will be describing the generations that followed - who don’t get fully expensed company cars for doing bugger all - as snowflakes.
@@rickerbyct ok snowflake
It was a different world back then and you seem to be forgetting that this is just TV
Your so vain, you probably think this song is about you dont you dont you your so vain 🎶
Just how many Dave Brent’s were there? These people are so desperately sad and quite boring. Great to watch though.
Come on man it's TV for gods sake
It’s typical of competitive workers of the day. Remember you’re looking at people who compete for a living.
Most of us aren’t modern day gladiators. We accept a position in a company someone else sweated to start & grow and get used to fixed monthly salaries, perhaps with a bonus.
The salespeople get on if they’re good at selling. Or, they’re gone. There are few outward signs of progress, so people grow attached to those that are available.
Typically they’re ranked against one another. If you’re not always trying to be in the top slice, you will be mown down from behind by someone hungrier than you.
I’d hate it. But I’ve met some people who could sell anything and ended up being very wealthy, after a career of selling everything that was going around when they were working, eg kitchens, double glazing, cars, mobile phones, etc.
It’s far from easy to do more than average in sales.
Just ludicrous. All this concern over status and what people think of them and how
important a particular metal and plastic box on wheels is. Are these types of thoughts
normal for neurotypicals? Sad men.
@AlexGRFan97 And you, sell toner cartridges for a living, from the back of your Ford Focus estate, the LXi spec of course, pmsl.
you think its any different today? wake up
Interesting marxist view... Perhaps you also think biological genders don't exist.
"I said with pride, it's not a Honda, it's a Nissan Primera" 😂