I love how Mal's total shift in attitude was foreshadowed by what he said to Inara prior. "If I start fighting a war, I guarantee you'll see something new."
I've LOVED flight all my life - atmospheric flight AND space flight. The two most beautiful pieces of verse that I've ever read/heard about it are "High Flight", by John Gillespie Magee, Jr., and Mal's soliloquy at the end of this movie. God willing, I'll be able to recite both from memory until my dying breath.
I mentioned during the show that they don't point out Jaynes character development, but they show it subtly. Jayne is a man of actions not words. He shows things rather than says them. When they're discussing doing the right thing, He takes a drink then slides it to Simon. With all their previous animosity, he doesn't tell Simon that he respects him or accepts him now, doesn't SAY that he's one of the crew, but he shows it by sharing a drink with him. Later when they are crashing, Jayne is thrown about because he's not strapped in, because he was making sure Everyoe Else was strapped in first.
I've come to the conclusion that Jayne is the least understood crewmember, probably because he's not got much use for words or deep thinking, and because his own self-image is at odds with his real feelings. (No, Dawn, I don't mean romantic feelings for River!) Those are two great examples from the movie, but his unspoken care for the crew goes right back to the very first episode, when he's secretly checking on Kaylee in the sickbay. Accepting Simon is character development, caring for the crew is a constant. It has to be _crew,_ though, not just anybody he works with - I'll wager this is the first time he's felt like that, and that's down to Mal's people-picking talent.
The way I interpret Jayne is that he actually is a good guy at his core but he grew up extremely poor having to fight, often literally, for every scrap (supposition). That carried over into his adult life, internalising a mentality of "might makes right". That is, until he met Mal. At first it was just greed that made him turn to Mal's side, but Mal showed him a new way to live. Yeah, they might just barely get by most of the time, but they rarely feel poor because they have each other. Jayne was already starting to learn that new way of thinking when we first meet him, but he relapses on Ariel after being attacked by River. After that relapse, though, he improves significantly. At least, until this movie which does send some of the characters and relationships back several steps at the beginning (after "Objects in Space", Mal would never even consider throwing Simon and River off, and, after "Ariel", Jayne wouldn't ask him to).
@@StarkRG - "internalising a mentality of "might makes right". That is, until he met Mal. At first it was just greed that made him turn to Mal's side, but Mal showed him a new way to live." Not entirely.. remember, the reason he turned to a life of crime in the first place was that he was sending money to his mother and sick sibling. In his own way, he was being selfless even then. He knew that crime was the only option he had, and that he likely wouldn't live long.. but he did it anyway.
@@StarkRG Well put. I disagree about _Ariel,_ though - I don't think it was a relapse, I think he was trying to protect himself and his crew, he just doesn't realise it because he's so used to it being all about the money. After Mal point-blank refused to do anything about a potential murderer on board (from Jayne's persepective Mal just shut him down, he didn't see the warning to Simon), Jayne came up with a plan to get rid of her. Which is actually reasonable - nobody should be forced to live with someone who might try to kill them at any time. Of course his plan was dumb and he tried to get some money on the way, but I think his motivation was good. However, "caring for the crew" and "needing to protect myself from a girl" are not ideas that fit well with his self-image, so in his head it became all about the money. But if it was, how come it only happened after River attacked him? That's my fanon.
@@Garryck-1 Don't remember anything about a sick sibling, which episode was that? In any case, I don't see that it changes anything I said. Regardless of his immediate reasons, the reason he turned to a life of crime is because that was the best option he saw for himself.
Actually (and grossly IMO) it's a pretty popular ship in the fanfiction community. I've never gotten it, myself, but for some people, it's a popular thought.
When you let out that huge gasp during your quick reaction montage in your intro, we all knew what you had just seen. We had the same reaction. I'm so happy to have re-experienced this with you. So much fun. 😘😘😘
Serenity has one of my favorite easter eggs in it. The designation of the scout ship on Miranda was C-57D. The original C-57D was the ship that was in the movie 'Forbidden Planet' (honestly, a must watch movie, but I digress). and in Serenity, Miranda was a 'forbidden planet'.. such a wonderful touch.
“Forbidden Planet” was a retelling of Shakespeare’s “The Tempest” in which the magician’s daughter (the character analogous to Altaira, played by Anne Francis) was named … Miranda!
@@daneng3641 Peart tapped some fantastic wells of ideas. A mad, immortal man. If you happened to enjoy the first Dirk Gently book (and who doesn’t enjoy a ghost-hunting, detective, mystery, thriller?), check out The Long Dark Teatime Of The Soul, which i nowadays like to imagine features Chris Hemsworth as one of the main characters.
@@sean---the-other-one As much as I'd love to be on board with you here, I thought Tea Time was pretty mediocre. I really wanted to like it, but it fails to come close to its predecessor.
One of my favorite story's of Alan's is when he talks about signing autographs. He wrote "I am a leaf on the wind" for a fan, he kinda regretted it because she broke down and cried.
I saw this movie before I saw the series, and I know the precise moment when I fell in love with the movie and had to find the series. "This isn't the war, Mal." "You're telling me this because you think I don't know." "I just want to know who I'm dealing with. I've seen too many versions of you to be sure." "If I start fighting a war, I guarantee you're going to see something new." That bit of dialog (which I probably got wrong) was what made me know that I had to find the show and now I'm a proud Browncoat.
For me it happened even sooner. "This is the captain, we have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence, and then… explode." The PERFECT line to set the tone for the entire movie.
'Put a plaster on it'. Loved that. The attention to detail here was amazing - right down to the scar on Mal's chest from when he got knifed in The Train Job. This was film-making genius, and a great way to end the series. Browncoat for life.
Heard it said " That kind explains how all brown coats feel about the series after all these years "I know what you're going to say but I like to hear you say it"
In the theaters, the whole crowd went from silently weeping at Wash's death, to an instant of stunned silence, to laughter, when Kaylee announced her intention to live. It felt so wrong, to laugh right after Wash died. But it needed to be done!
to be fair the whole 'nothing twix my nethers bit also felt a bit off too, like they were trying to sex things up for the movie crowd when Kaylee was always the quiet innocent one, not that i didnt enjoy it, but it just felt .......OFF
@@stevenr6397 Kaylee the innocent one? 🤣 She's a sweetie, sure, but don't go jumping into a false dichotomy now. Incredibly nice people can also have good libido.
@@stevenr6397 I don't thing so, yeah we see Kaylee as the inocent one but don't forget how she got recruited, or her talk with River in the last episode (i think) her comment in the whore house, to me her comment felt very on character
I see that last dialogue and look between Mal and Inara as both of them coming to an unspoken agreement to cautiously see where things go, with her back on the ship.
"Do you want to run this ship?!" YES!! "Well... you can't." That is my first memory of Firefly/Serenity. I remember seeing the movie preview and thinking that line was hilarious!! Made me want to watch it... been a Browncoat ever since 😊
Hey Dawn ... you know what's better then watching "Firefly" for the first time? Watching it again. I guarantee you will notice things that you didn't while watching the first time. While it's so sad that this brilliant show was cancelled by a FOX nitwit, that doesn't mean that it's over and done with. There is so much "Firefly / Serenity" material on RUclips: cast appearances at various Comic Cons, Dragon Cons and other conventions (worldwide); documentaries; interviews, promos, outtakes, deleted scenes, bloopers, guest appearances on other shows, etc., etc. - So, now that you've joined the worldwide ranks of Browncoats, you might want to surf RUclips and check out all there is to offer. Glad you enjoyed the series and movie. SHINY !!!!
Dawn Marie, in case others haven't told you why Wash died: Joss Whedon expected this to be the first of a series of movies. Alan Tudyk had another commitment so Joss saw used death as an explanation for Wash's absence in the next movies. It also made the crew's jeopardy more real for us.
Universal had a requirement for the crew to sign multi-film contracts or be written out (to avoid recasting drama). Alan had existing contracts for projects and Ron had offers on his agent's desk.
Well, that makes me feel better about it...sort of. I mean, he could have just had Wash quit, too. Talk about how he and Zoe were settling down somewhere. If another movie was made, Wash could have just stayed home looking after their kids. Also, didn't have to kill Shepherd.
@@MSmith-b33tingU - *"Well, that makes me feel better about it...sort of. I mean, he could have just had Wash quit, too. Talk about how he and Zoe were settling down somewhere."* Wash's death accomplished something there was no other way to really do. When Wash died, so did the plot-armour of every other crewmember. If Wash could die, anyone could. It made the rest of those scenes that much more heart-in-mouth for the audience.
@@malcolmrowe9003 He was definitely getting older and likely started having health issues that come with aging, but this is not his final acting credit. He's been in a few other things between this and his death.
Nathan Fillion's bruises on his face and bloodshot eye in the final battle with the "Operative" were real, he had done so many takes to get the scene just right he ended up with his face all black & blue. Universal originally scheduled Serenity for release on April 22, 2005, but it was pushed back to September 30. Along with a traditional marketing campaign, the studio launched a grassroots promotion that targeted areas where the TV ratings for Firefly were the strongest. Interest from Firefly‘s fan community was palpable, but the buzz was low from those that were uninitiated. After Serenity tanked in theaters, the movie had a more prosperous life on home video. Happy ending, kind of.
Some of us used to have a Pay-it-Forward rule. You gift someone a brand new copy of the show on DVD, someone who has never seen it. The only requirement is that they have to do the same with someone else. 😃
The real problem was, they did so many waves of pre-release fan showings hoping for word of mouth publicity that by the time the thing actually premiered, a huge chunk of the fandom had already seen it. The opening weekend numbers were shit. And word of mouth advertising is hard to do for a movie that mostly requires people to see a 13 episode niche sci-fi series to fully get the movie. I'm just happy we got closure. RIP Wash and Book.
@@hernerweisenberg7052 To be fair, it's a cool concept in theory, but yeah, should actually verify the science is solid before promoting a scam. (If only more people took that attitude with Musk too).
It is clearly obvious that this was a full season squeezed into one movie... but the introduction of "The Operative" and the way that he was played by Chiwetel Ejiofor was LEGENDARY. It was possibly one of the BEST villains on screen ever presented, and at the same time also somewhat charming in his own way. Not to mention the way that the origins of the Reavers was handled. They just didn't "whatever" their story, they actually THOUGHT about it, and that added an additional element of just how horrifying the concept of "controlling humanity" really can be when done out of a sense of "improving the race".
The scene where he and Inara meet is an absolute MASTERCLASS in non-verbal acting. He walks up, doesn't say a single word, has practically no emotion on his face, yet Inara, who, as a Companion, is well schooled in reading people's faces and emotional cues upon meeting them, goes from her professional 'greeting face' to utterly and abjectly terrified in the space of about 3 seconds. SUCH A GOOD VILLAIN!!!
Joss is a master at writing villains, and The Operative is one of the most tragic villains ever written. Yes, he was a monster, but not because he was a psychopath doing it for fun. He truly believed he was doing something to serve the greater good, and he willingly sacrificed his own soul to make a better "world" for everyone else, but his belief was betrayed by those he served.
@@arklytte "abjectly" is far too strong an adjective to use. By it's very definition, it means a loss of dignity, and in the context of fear, is used to describe someone becoming so scared that they piss themselves. I'm sure you didn't mean to imply that Inara was that lacking in mental fortitude, did you?
@@JakkFrost1 Given what we know about The Operative, and also given what we know about Inara (her being a skilled Companion, and someone who could have been a House Priestess (per Nandi in Heart of Gold), and who, by the time of the movie, is probably once again working towards that goal, it's not hard to assume that she would have at least heard about Operatives. She would almost certainly have a very good idea of just what, exactly, they are, and what they're capable of. So while, no, I dont believe she would so lose control that she would *physically* pee herself (obviously), I would imagine that **mentally**, you bet your ass she is.
The comics answer a lot of your questions and one thing in the comics that I'm going to spoil that either makes the ending of this movie either happier or sadder depending on your perspective. Spoiler: Zoe is pregnant with Wash's baby at the end of this movie.
Yep. It's a great callback to Heart of Gold, where they talked about having a baby. Obviously, in the interim between the shows end and the movie, they started trying, but it took them awhile to make it happen, since, IIRC, it was at least a year between Objects in Space and Serenity.. It definitely makes things happier in my mind.
The bounty hunter in the "last" episode was a prosecutor in the DA's office in the original Law & Order. The guy with the sword was Baron Mordo from Dr. Strange and the translator in Amistad.
Been waiting and dreading this... It's funny how Mal misunderstood River's question of "do you?" She was literally asking him if HE understood her part in "all this." Clearly he did not, at least not at the start of this roller-coaster ride. Still get angry sad when Wash gets taken out even after seeing this a billion times. And having watched Blake's Seven I got a real bad feeling after Booke and Wash went down. I highly recommend you watch the bloopers for this movie, it will help you adapt to the loss of the show.
1. it is officially-official, welcome to the brown coats club. the joy and sorrow of Firefly/Serenity is pretty heavy. its been at least a decade for me and it still feels like its day 1. 2. what is this obsession for River & Jayne to hook up 🤣🤣🤣
River received an invitation to go to a special "school" for geniuses. She wanted to go, and her parents (and Simon, not that anyone asked him) approved. It was only when River began sending letters home that made no sense that Simon realized something was wrong and set about rescuing her.
Many, many moons ago, I got a copy of Serenity for Christmas. I had almost zero interest in it, but I was grateful. Set on my shelf for months and months, until, late one night, I was looking for something to watch while having a late dinner. And it blew my mind. For, you see, brother-in-law Seeing Serenity for the first time was like watching that universe come to life! I knew and bonded with every member of that crew instantly! 'OMG!', I remember thinking, this is basically our Traveler crew from back in the day, and damned if they're not doing almost as bad as we did in the circumstance! This film is a science fiction treasure trove! Please keep the memory of this film and this series alive! It changed everything!
I don't know if it's just rumor, but I've read that Whedon got a lot of the ideas, that he built "Firefly" with, from his time playing Traveller - my favorite RPG. And, keeping that in mind while I rewatched the show, the Traveller influence becomes glaringly obvious. (I really should have realized it from the abundance of bullet-launchers, but they fit into a science-fiction Western so well that it got right by me.)
I've gotten it explained that they intended to do more movies, but Ron Glass (Book) and Alan Tudyk (Wash) was not able to commit to multiple movies so rather than disappearing between movies, they opted to send the characters off with style.
Did you not notice, when River screamed and collapsed after her vision of the rievers at the bank, it was Jayne who rushed to her side and asked after her.
The reason Inara was so stand offish about her relationship with Mal, was because she was dying. Her character had an incurable illness. This was something Joss told Moriena but never got revealed. She spoke about it during the 10th anniversary special. During the episode Bushwhacked you saw her needle. That was for when the pain got too bad she could end it quickly. And in Out of Gas when she said "I don't want to die at all." She was referring to her illness.
If you liked the actress who played river in this you should watch the Sarah Connor Chronicles. (An alternate universe take of what happens after Terminator 2) The actress plays a Terminator in that TV show named Cameron.
Fun fact:The blood in Mal's eye at the end was real. For the fight scene at the end Nathan Fillion did repeated takes of falling on the metal grate walkway and eventually ruptured blood vessels in his eye.
Memorable quotes from Serenity. "What was that?" "It'd sure be nice to have some grenades." "I swallowed a bug." "Did you hear us fight? No. Trap." "You can't make me angry. Spend an hour with him." "That's not incense." "I aim to misbehave." "Forget this, I mean to live!" "You always take care of me. My turn!" "I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar!" Stay forever "SHINY" fellow brown coats! We will miss you, Firefly!
"I'm feeling everything all-at-the-same-time." ~ a great reaction from our little browncoat Scot FYI: Jayne and River, (Adam Baldwin and Summer Glau), DID appear together again in an episode of a great show called 'Chuck.'
You said during the planning stage of the heist on Ariel, that Simon seemed like he had done something like that before. As you can see from the beginning of the film, he totally had. It may be a slight retcon from the show, but it’s one that actually fits really well.
One of the most well written and moving series to ever grace the screens and the movie was even better. I hate that they cancelled it, but at least we got to see what we did get.
Alan Tudyk told a story in an interview.... it was a decade after Serenity... and a fan was getting his autograph (he likes the fans)... and he told her a joke; "Hey, you know how Reavers keep their spears clean? They run them through the Wash"... the girl burst into tears and walked off. He said he'd never felt so bad... Just sayin'.... Wash's death cut DEEP for us Browncoats. Even after all this time, that scene HURTS.
Thank you Thank you Thank you your reaction to the movie was perfect. I enjoyed going on this journey with you. I laughed I cried I loved watching with someone else who was in love with this show and is sad to see it end. I subscribed and will be watching more of your reactions.
Great reaction. The Miranda story line was supposed to be at the end of Season 2. Books death helped Mal belief in a cause. Wash death was to show how dangerous it is and anyone could die. There was also talk that Alan and Ron couldn't commit to further movies. There is a comic book called "A Shepard's Tale.". It is Books back story. Some people liked it and others didn't.
It got cancelled at the right time, I guess -- not getting to see where they were going made it a decent series; trying to explain it just made it typical TV-scifi silliness. I /hated/ Serenity when it first came out.
If you really wanna know about the sheppard, they made an official comic called "Serenity: The Shepherd's Tale". There are other comics tying up a few of the loose ends.
Was just watching a reaction to 'Once more with feeling' and something suddenly hit me. The axe River used to fight the reavers is Buffys axe from the final Buffy episodes.
I saw the movie first a couple years before I even learned there was a show. I used to call it Zombies in Space. Told someone once about it and they asked if I'd seen the show.
Damn you woman for making me cry to this all over again! And as many of said during your journey to this point ... here's your coat ... and, yes, it's brown
If you are sad and annoyed and angry that Firefly is now over.... you can alleviate that pain and sadness by watching a web based show called "Con Man" I've probably mentioned this to you before, but honestly I'm currently watching about 5 different reaction channels that are in the process of reacting to Firefly that I don't remember who I've mentioned this to yet. "Con Man" stars Alyn Tudyk and Nathan Filion...so it will be nice to see them together again. Seriously, I think you'll love the show. It's not very long. It is a web based show so each episode is very short. Look it up!
There's also a great episode of Warehouse 13 where Simon and Kaylee are together (well, obviously it's not Simon & Kaylee, but there's a couple of sly nods to Firefly in the episode, so those in the know will get the Nudge Nudge Wink Wink).
Thanks for taking us on this journey with you. Loved it! So sorry that the shows are done. There are books and comic books if you want to learn more, including Book's backstory.
Firefly was a 20th Century Fox production so at the moment it is owned by Disney. There is talk of a Disney+ series, but Disney is currently in dire straits...
@@AngeloBarovierSD The are in a financial crisis of their own making. They need to pay Comcast a very large sum of money, that they don't have, and they have had a long string of flops with more on the way. The have had a round of layoffs recently, and are likely to sack more people soon. They have just closed the loss making $2billion Star Wars hotel. Their stock value is on a steady decline all year
@@portland-182 Who told you about Disney stock being in a steady decline? It has had wildish peaks and valleys in the past 12 mos. A rough check on my stock trackers has it at 99.40/sh a year ago and 92.53/sh as of this post. That’s just an instanced comparison but I don’t see a “steady decline” in share price. AUG/22 it peaked at 121.57, its lowest in the period was DEC/22 when it closed at 86.88. The charting of the period shows utterly normal fluctuations and the mean has the slightest decline of ~$5. (Anyone else can check these prices on a standard web search. No app needed.) The 5Y trend is flawed because of a spike roughly in OCT/20 at 181/sh. It has notably fallen off from that lifetime high but the entire market trended down in the grips of a certain global event (setting aside some pharma and pharma-adjacent industries). Disney first went above $80/sh in January of 2014 and has remained above that for almost ten years. So, I’m really not sure what we’re saying here when we suggest the company is in “dire straits”.
In an interview, I believe Joss Whedon said killing someone would leave the audience unsure if anyone was going to survive. Ron Glass (RIP) and Alan Tudyk both had reasons to not be available for any further Firefly movies so they were the obvious choice. On a different topic Dawn Marie, if you're looking for something to satisfy Michael Palin and/or The Young Ones cravings then try Michael's series Ripping Yarns and/or Rik Mayall and Ade Edmondson's Bottom.
I told you to bring tissues 😛 There's a little-known fan theory out there that the Alliance would have found Wash, stuck him in cryo, and brought him back later or clone him or something, all in an attempt to get more info about the crew and River. I like that theory and could imagine a sequel where the crew learns that the Alliance saved Wash and go in to rescue him. If you like to read at all, there is a surprisingly good fanfic out there called "Browncoat, Green Eyes" that is a bit of a crossover fic, but is reeeeeeeeeeeally good and I think you'd like it.
In the script... Walsh had an obsession w/ dinosaur toys as it was the only thing his parents left him as he was abandoned and his childhood in an orphanage until he was so crafty in his abilities he sold himself as a pilot. He did some odd jobs here and there, proved himself... thats how he met Mal (wanting some cheap honest talent).
Enjoy the Serenity Comics/Graphic Novels. Optimal read order: 1. Those Left Behind, 2. Better Days, 3. Shepherd’s Tale, 4. Float Out, and 5) No Power in the Verse. I believe the finale one in the series (So far) is called Earth that Was, but I haven’t read it yet.
I am sad together. I love this series and this movie (which I did in fact watch before I ever saw an episode of the series, which was an interesting experience). I still hope you decide to watch Farscape, if you haven't watched the series already. It's a longer series and has a very different feel and casting...but feels similar in that it's a team of misfits going through space together with a struggle to get along, romance along the way and the constant threat of an enormously powerful military bearing down on the crew. I will admit Farscape doesn't really get traction until about halfway through the first season, but I still stand by it's a good series and worth the long journey. Anyway, I'm glad you loved Firefly and Serenity so much and it was a privilege to go on this journey with you.
My theory on why they did that to river and others… so the alliance made a mistake and created the reavers… but intentionally created super soldiers to kill them off and cover up what they did
The director and writer/creator of the movie and show asked all the characters if they would be able to sign back on if the show got picked back up after the movie. The two crew members deaths were due to the actors not agreeing that they would return due to previous agreed projects or other reasons.
My favorite quote is actually at the end of the movie, from Mal himself: "Love. You can know all the math in the ‘Verse, but take a boat in the air you don’t love, she'll throw you off of her just as sure as the turning of worlds. Love keeps her up when she ought to fall down, tells ya she’s hurtin’ ‘fore she keens, makes her a home.” That, right there, when you know the reason why Mal started flying originally, being all about having freedom, tells you everything about what it means to be free, what it means to be human, and why a man or woman will throw everything they have, and everything they are, into any fight where the outcome is liberty or death. And it is a spirit that still endures to this day among us Browncoats, though the Alliance's attitudes seems to be winning the fight to bring us all under their rules of living, seems like.
yeah its my favorite as well. especially after living on a sailboat for months at a time. special mention to 'Storms getting worse' 'we'll pass through it soon enough'
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"I am a leaf on the wind." We still cry.
I know, I do.
What makes it worse for me is the foreshadowing for that line, as a leaf in the wind has already died
@@E-Lykos agreed. just waiting for Dawn Marie to react seemed wrong somehow
Every.single. time
He ain't comin..😢
I love how Mal's total shift in attitude was foreshadowed by what he said to Inara prior. "If I start fighting a war, I guarantee you'll see something new."
My favorite line in the franchise. The moment Sheppard dies he goes full military mode.
Even in War Stories "do you want to see the real me now" was a little potential foreshadowing.
Omg can't believe I never made that connection before! Exactly right.
I swear, River's "I do. But I like to hear you say it" right there at the end of the movie hits me right in the feels every time.
Me too. That & Mal’s speech about loving the ship always gets me..
Might be my favorite line in all of Firefly.
PERFECT way to end it
@@susanmaggiora4800 I recommended that to a Browncoat couple for their wedding vows.
I've LOVED flight all my life - atmospheric flight AND space flight. The two most beautiful pieces of verse that I've ever read/heard about it are "High Flight", by John Gillespie Magee, Jr., and Mal's soliloquy at the end of this movie. God willing, I'll be able to recite both from memory until my dying breath.
I mentioned during the show that they don't point out Jaynes character development, but they show it subtly. Jayne is a man of actions not words. He shows things rather than says them. When they're discussing doing the right thing, He takes a drink then slides it to Simon. With all their previous animosity, he doesn't tell Simon that he respects him or accepts him now, doesn't SAY that he's one of the crew, but he shows it by sharing a drink with him. Later when they are crashing, Jayne is thrown about because he's not strapped in, because he was making sure Everyoe Else was strapped in first.
I've come to the conclusion that Jayne is the least understood crewmember, probably because he's not got much use for words or deep thinking, and because his own self-image is at odds with his real feelings. (No, Dawn, I don't mean romantic feelings for River!) Those are two great examples from the movie, but his unspoken care for the crew goes right back to the very first episode, when he's secretly checking on Kaylee in the sickbay. Accepting Simon is character development, caring for the crew is a constant. It has to be _crew,_ though, not just anybody he works with - I'll wager this is the first time he's felt like that, and that's down to Mal's people-picking talent.
The way I interpret Jayne is that he actually is a good guy at his core but he grew up extremely poor having to fight, often literally, for every scrap (supposition). That carried over into his adult life, internalising a mentality of "might makes right". That is, until he met Mal. At first it was just greed that made him turn to Mal's side, but Mal showed him a new way to live. Yeah, they might just barely get by most of the time, but they rarely feel poor because they have each other. Jayne was already starting to learn that new way of thinking when we first meet him, but he relapses on Ariel after being attacked by River. After that relapse, though, he improves significantly. At least, until this movie which does send some of the characters and relationships back several steps at the beginning (after "Objects in Space", Mal would never even consider throwing Simon and River off, and, after "Ariel", Jayne wouldn't ask him to).
@@StarkRG - "internalising a mentality of "might makes right". That is, until he met Mal. At first it was just greed that made him turn to Mal's side, but Mal showed him a new way to live."
Not entirely.. remember, the reason he turned to a life of crime in the first place was that he was sending money to his mother and sick sibling. In his own way, he was being selfless even then. He knew that crime was the only option he had, and that he likely wouldn't live long.. but he did it anyway.
@@StarkRG Well put. I disagree about _Ariel,_ though - I don't think it was a relapse, I think he was trying to protect himself and his crew, he just doesn't realise it because he's so used to it being all about the money. After Mal point-blank refused to do anything about a potential murderer on board (from Jayne's persepective Mal just shut him down, he didn't see the warning to Simon), Jayne came up with a plan to get rid of her. Which is actually reasonable - nobody should be forced to live with someone who might try to kill them at any time. Of course his plan was dumb and he tried to get some money on the way, but I think his motivation was good. However, "caring for the crew" and "needing to protect myself from a girl" are not ideas that fit well with his self-image, so in his head it became all about the money. But if it was, how come it only happened after River attacked him? That's my fanon.
@@Garryck-1 Don't remember anything about a sick sibling, which episode was that? In any case, I don't see that it changes anything I said. Regardless of his immediate reasons, the reason he turned to a life of crime is because that was the best option he saw for himself.
I'm 100% certain that you're the only person I have ever known to go on about the River and Jayne thing.
Well done...you weirdo. ❤
Sure, at the time he was about twice her age, but still. 19 year age differences are ok, right?
Jayne/ River is a thing in fan- fiction circles- a merging of total opposites.
@@hawke5311 I say consenting adults' personal interactions are none of my concern whether it seems odd to me or not.
@@No1Knows I agree with you. When she becomes an adult this pairing will be less creepy.
Actually (and grossly IMO) it's a pretty popular ship in the fanfiction community.
I've never gotten it, myself, but for some people, it's a popular thought.
When you let out that huge gasp during your quick reaction montage in your intro, we all knew what you had just seen. We had the same reaction. I'm so happy to have re-experienced this with you. So much fun. 😘😘😘
Serenity has one of my favorite easter eggs in it. The designation of the scout ship on Miranda was C-57D. The original C-57D was the ship that was in the movie 'Forbidden Planet' (honestly, a must watch movie, but I digress). and in Serenity, Miranda was a 'forbidden planet'.. such a wonderful touch.
Did not know, thank you!
“Forbidden Planet” was a retelling of Shakespeare’s “The Tempest” in which the magician’s daughter (the character analogous to Altaira, played by Anne Francis) was named … Miranda!
The albatross poem is The Rime of the Ancient Mariner by Samuel Taylor Coleridge. It's nearly 80 pages long and is also an awesome Iron Maiden song.
It’s also a big part of the awesome Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency novel by Douglas Adams.
I brought in a cassette of the Iron Maiden song and played it for my English Lit class in high school.
@@sean---the-other-one I read this with my son. But first the Rime of the Ancient Mariner and then Kubla Khan. And some Rush. Those caves of ice!
@@daneng3641
Peart tapped some fantastic wells of ideas. A mad, immortal man.
If you happened to enjoy the first Dirk Gently book (and who doesn’t enjoy a ghost-hunting, detective, mystery, thriller?), check out The Long Dark Teatime Of The Soul, which i nowadays like to imagine features Chris Hemsworth as one of the main characters.
@@sean---the-other-one As much as I'd love to be on board with you here, I thought Tea Time was pretty mediocre. I really wanted to like it, but it fails to come close to its predecessor.
Also whenever you feel bad about Firefly being gone, remember “You Can’t stop the signal, You can never stop the Signal!”
One of my favorite story's of Alan's is when he talks about signing autographs. He wrote "I am a leaf on the wind" for a fan, he kinda regretted it because she broke down and cried.
I saw this movie before I saw the series, and I know the precise moment when I fell in love with the movie and had to find the series.
"This isn't the war, Mal."
"You're telling me this because you think I don't know."
"I just want to know who I'm dealing with. I've seen too many versions of you to be sure."
"If I start fighting a war, I guarantee you're going to see something new."
That bit of dialog (which I probably got wrong) was what made me know that I had to find the show and now I'm a proud Browncoat.
For me it happened even sooner. "This is the captain, we have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence, and then… explode." The PERFECT line to set the tone for the entire movie.
@@ObsceneVegetableMatter Perfect light hearted tone
'Put a plaster on it'. Loved that. The attention to detail here was amazing - right down to the scar on Mal's chest from when he got knifed in The Train Job. This was film-making genius, and a great way to end the series. Browncoat for life.
"I do. But I like to hear you say it." 😭😭😭
For almost 20 years now, that line gets me every time.
Heard it said " That kind explains how all brown coats feel about the series after all these years "I know what you're going to say but I like to hear you say it"
"Sooner or later they'll come back to the belief that they can make people better!' Love that line...
And yet politicians keep trying to do it...
@@gunnargundersen3787 Low-key one of the most conservative movies ever made...
In the theaters, the whole crowd went from silently weeping at Wash's death, to an instant of stunned silence, to laughter, when Kaylee announced her intention to live. It felt so wrong, to laugh right after Wash died. But it needed to be done!
to be fair the whole 'nothing twix my nethers bit also felt a bit off too, like they were trying to sex things up for the movie crowd when Kaylee was always the quiet innocent one, not that i didnt enjoy it, but it just felt .......OFF
@@stevenr6397 But remember, the very first time she came on board it was to twix nethers with Fester, their first mechanic.
When I saw it in the theater, Wash's death was followed by a few seconds of silence then one voice yelling "You dick!" Presumably, at Joss Whedon.
@@stevenr6397 Kaylee the innocent one? 🤣 She's a sweetie, sure, but don't go jumping into a false dichotomy now. Incredibly nice people can also have good libido.
@@stevenr6397 I don't thing so, yeah we see Kaylee as the inocent one but don't forget how she got recruited, or her talk with River in the last episode (i think) her comment in the whore house, to me her comment felt very on character
I love that little twirl through the clouds at the end.
She always did love to dance...
I love Dawns little giggles.
Thank you Dawn, for taking all of us on your journey.
I see that last dialogue and look between Mal and Inara as both of them coming to an unspoken agreement to cautiously see where things go, with her back on the ship.
If she doesn't rent the shuttle, the contract does not apply... just saying.
The scene where River fights the reavers was choreographed so that the camera operator could move in and out of the action when needed.
"Do you want to run this ship?!" YES!! "Well... you can't." That is my first memory of Firefly/Serenity. I remember seeing the movie preview and thinking that line was hilarious!! Made me want to watch it... been a Browncoat ever since 😊
Hey Dawn ... you know what's better then watching "Firefly" for the first time? Watching it again. I guarantee you will notice things that you didn't while watching the first time. While it's so sad that this brilliant show was cancelled by a FOX nitwit, that doesn't mean that it's over and done with. There is so much "Firefly / Serenity" material on RUclips: cast appearances at various Comic Cons, Dragon Cons and other conventions (worldwide); documentaries; interviews, promos, outtakes, deleted scenes, bloopers, guest appearances on other shows, etc., etc. - So, now that you've joined the worldwide ranks of Browncoats, you might want to surf RUclips and check out all there is to offer. Glad you enjoyed the series and movie. SHINY !!!!
Watching with the Director commentary turned on is pretty good too
That was too damn funny. "Tell her you love her, or you're not ending this movie".
Dawn Marie, in case others haven't told you why Wash died: Joss Whedon expected this to be the first of a series of movies. Alan Tudyk had another commitment so Joss saw used death as an explanation for Wash's absence in the next movies. It also made the crew's jeopardy more real for us.
Universal had a requirement for the crew to sign multi-film contracts or be written out (to avoid recasting drama). Alan had existing contracts for projects and Ron had offers on his agent's desk.
@@CaptainFrost32 didn't Ron have health issues that meant it was unlikely that he's see out the proposed series?
Edited because of autocorrect.
Well, that makes me feel better about it...sort of. I mean, he could have just had Wash quit, too. Talk about how he and Zoe were settling down somewhere. If another movie was made, Wash could have just stayed home looking after their kids. Also, didn't have to kill Shepherd.
@@MSmith-b33tingU - *"Well, that makes me feel better about it...sort of. I mean, he could have just had Wash quit, too. Talk about how he and Zoe were settling down somewhere."*
Wash's death accomplished something there was no other way to really do. When Wash died, so did the plot-armour of every other crewmember. If Wash could die, anyone could. It made the rest of those scenes that much more heart-in-mouth for the audience.
@@malcolmrowe9003 He was definitely getting older and likely started having health issues that come with aging, but this is not his final acting credit. He's been in a few other things between this and his death.
Wow, watched this countless times since it aired. Never noticed till now, but Jayne wears a St. Christopher medal.
“River needs to Miranda them all.”
So totally using this from now on. 😂
The Agent is attacking nerve clusters, basically for the opposite effect one would get acupuncture for.
Nathan Fillion's bruises on his face and bloodshot eye in the final battle with the "Operative" were real, he had done so many takes to get the scene just right he ended up with his face all black & blue. Universal originally scheduled Serenity for release on April 22, 2005, but it was pushed back to September 30. Along with a traditional marketing campaign, the studio launched a grassroots promotion that targeted areas where the TV ratings for Firefly were the strongest. Interest from Firefly‘s fan community was palpable, but the buzz was low from those that were uninitiated. After Serenity tanked in theaters, the movie had a more prosperous life on home video. Happy ending, kind of.
Some of us used to have a Pay-it-Forward rule. You gift someone a brand new copy of the show on DVD, someone who has never seen it. The only requirement is that they have to do the same with someone else. 😃
The real problem was, they did so many waves of pre-release fan showings hoping for word of mouth publicity that by the time the thing actually premiered, a huge chunk of the fandom had already seen it. The opening weekend numbers were shit. And word of mouth advertising is hard to do for a movie that mostly requires people to see a 13 episode niche sci-fi series to fully get the movie.
I'm just happy we got closure.
RIP Wash and Book.
He probably lost quite a bit of braincells too in the process, at least that would explain him promoting crap like solar frekin roadways xD
@@iczorro Agree
@@hernerweisenberg7052 To be fair, it's a cool concept in theory, but yeah, should actually verify the science is solid before promoting a scam.
(If only more people took that attitude with Musk too).
It is clearly obvious that this was a full season squeezed into one movie... but the introduction of "The Operative" and the way that he was played by Chiwetel Ejiofor was LEGENDARY. It was possibly one of the BEST villains on screen ever presented, and at the same time also somewhat charming in his own way.
Not to mention the way that the origins of the Reavers was handled. They just didn't "whatever" their story, they actually THOUGHT about it, and that added an additional element of just how horrifying the concept of "controlling humanity" really can be when done out of a sense of "improving the race".
The scene where he and Inara meet is an absolute MASTERCLASS in non-verbal acting. He walks up, doesn't say a single word, has practically no emotion on his face, yet Inara, who, as a Companion, is well schooled in reading people's faces and emotional cues upon meeting them, goes from her professional 'greeting face' to utterly and abjectly terrified in the space of about 3 seconds.
SUCH A GOOD VILLAIN!!!
Joss is a master at writing villains, and The Operative is one of the most tragic villains ever written. Yes, he was a monster, but not because he was a psychopath doing it for fun. He truly believed he was doing something to serve the greater good, and he willingly sacrificed his own soul to make a better "world" for everyone else, but his belief was betrayed by those he served.
@@arklytte "abjectly" is far too strong an adjective to use. By it's very definition, it means a loss of dignity, and in the context of fear, is used to describe someone becoming so scared that they piss themselves.
I'm sure you didn't mean to imply that Inara was that lacking in mental fortitude, did you?
@@JakkFrost1 Given what we know about The Operative, and also given what we know about Inara (her being a skilled Companion, and someone who could have been a House Priestess (per Nandi in Heart of Gold), and who, by the time of the movie, is probably once again working towards that goal, it's not hard to assume that she would have at least heard about Operatives. She would almost certainly have a very good idea of just what, exactly, they are, and what they're capable of.
So while, no, I dont believe she would so lose control that she would *physically* pee herself (obviously), I would imagine that **mentally**, you bet your ass she is.
@@arklytte indeed, which is why I had no objection to the word "utterly", which is another strong adjective, but not in the same league as abjectly.
The comics answer a lot of your questions and one thing in the comics that I'm going to spoil that either makes the ending of this movie either happier or sadder depending on your perspective. Spoiler:
Zoe is pregnant with Wash's baby at the end of this movie.
Yep. It's a great callback to Heart of Gold, where they talked about having a baby. Obviously, in the interim between the shows end and the movie, they started trying, but it took them awhile to make it happen, since, IIRC, it was at least a year between Objects in Space and Serenity..
It definitely makes things happier in my mind.
Nathan Fillion's favorite joke, " How do the Reavers clean their spears? They run them through the Wash!
Alright we're fighting
The bounty hunter in the "last" episode was a prosecutor in the DA's office in the original Law & Order. The guy with the sword was Baron Mordo from Dr. Strange and the translator in Amistad.
Been waiting and dreading this...
It's funny how Mal misunderstood River's question of "do you?" She was literally asking him if HE understood her part in "all this." Clearly he did not, at least not at the start of this roller-coaster ride.
Still get angry sad when Wash gets taken out even after seeing this a billion times. And having watched Blake's Seven I got a real bad feeling after Booke and Wash went down.
I highly recommend you watch the bloopers for this movie, it will help you adapt to the loss of the show.
The bloopers are a gem
The bloopers are gold
Yep. Some of my favorite bloopers.
Nice to hear another soul who remembers Blake's Seven!
@@UTU49 SUMMER!!!
1. it is officially-official, welcome to the brown coats club. the joy and sorrow of Firefly/Serenity is pretty heavy. its been at least a decade for me and it still feels like its day 1.
2. what is this obsession for River & Jayne to hook up 🤣🤣🤣
I drove an hour to find a theater which wasn’t closed by Katrina, to see this movie. Worth it, even as hard as it was to get gas then.
LOL
"Oh, I would love to not exist."
Dawn, you're the best!
River received an invitation to go to a special "school" for geniuses. She wanted to go, and her parents (and Simon, not that anyone asked him) approved. It was only when River began sending letters home that made no sense that Simon realized something was wrong and set about rescuing her.
Now comes the best part, watching it all over again!
My favorite line in the movie: -My turn.
thank you for letting us see your reaction to this journey....
Summer Glau actually did that ceiling cling without any camera tricks or hidden harness.
Many, many moons ago, I got a copy of Serenity for Christmas. I had almost zero interest in it, but I was grateful. Set on my shelf for months and months, until, late one night, I was looking for something to watch while having a late dinner. And it blew my mind. For, you see, brother-in-law
Seeing Serenity for the first time was like watching that universe come to life! I knew and bonded with every member of that crew instantly! 'OMG!', I remember thinking, this is basically our Traveler crew from back in the day, and damned if they're not doing almost as bad as we did in the circumstance!
This film is a science fiction treasure trove! Please keep the memory of this film and this series alive! It changed everything!
I don't know if it's just rumor, but I've read that Whedon got a lot of the ideas, that he built "Firefly" with, from his time playing Traveller - my favorite RPG. And, keeping that in mind while I rewatched the show, the Traveller influence becomes glaringly obvious. (I really should have realized it from the abundance of bullet-launchers, but they fit into a science-fiction Western so well that it got right by me.)
I've gotten it explained that they intended to do more movies, but Ron Glass (Book) and Alan Tudyk (Wash) was not able to commit to multiple movies so rather than disappearing between movies, they opted to send the characters off with style.
never say never. All Browncoats know the proper way to watch Firefly is on a loop. :) We feel your pain.
Just like "Futurama" after the "Meanwhile" episode.
Did you not notice, when River screamed and collapsed after her vision of the rievers at the bank, it was Jayne who rushed to her side and asked after her.
The reason Inara was so stand offish about her relationship with Mal, was because she was dying. Her character had an incurable illness. This was something Joss told Moriena but never got revealed. She spoke about it during the 10th anniversary special. During the episode Bushwhacked you saw her needle. That was for when the pain got too bad she could end it quickly. And in Out of Gas when she said "I don't want to die at all." She was referring to her illness.
If you liked the actress who played river in this you should watch the Sarah Connor Chronicles. (An alternate universe take of what happens after Terminator 2) The actress plays a Terminator in that TV show named Cameron.
Love that series
Summer said that the hardest part about playing a Terminator was learning to do fight scenes without changing facial expression.
Fun fact:The blood in Mal's eye at the end was real. For the fight scene at the end Nathan Fillion did repeated takes of falling on the metal grate walkway and eventually ruptured blood vessels in his eye.
Memorable quotes from Serenity.
"What was that?"
"It'd sure be nice to have some grenades."
"I swallowed a bug."
"Did you hear us fight? No. Trap."
"You can't make me angry. Spend an hour with him."
"That's not incense."
"I aim to misbehave."
"Forget this, I mean to live!"
"You always take care of me. My turn!"
"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar!"
Stay forever "SHINY" fellow brown coats! We will miss you, Firefly!
Best show EVER! So glad you reacted to this series.. cheers from California!
"I'm feeling everything all-at-the-same-time."
~ a great reaction from our little browncoat Scot
FYI: Jayne and River, (Adam Baldwin and Summer Glau), DID appear together again in an episode of a great show called 'Chuck.'
You get likes just for posting this! Love your reactions to Firefly and have been anticipating this since your first episode of the series.
I’m a huge firefly fan and it’s been a joy rewatching it in your company. Thanks Dawn!
Best River line ever, " I swallowed a bug" :)
You said during the planning stage of the heist on Ariel, that Simon seemed like he had done something like that before. As you can see from the beginning of the film, he totally had.
It may be a slight retcon from the show, but it’s one that actually fits really well.
One of the most well written and moving series to ever grace the screens and the movie was even better. I hate that they cancelled it, but at least we got to see what we did get.
Alan Tudyk told a story in an interview.... it was a decade after Serenity... and a fan was getting his autograph (he likes the fans)... and he told her a joke; "Hey, you know how Reavers keep their spears clean? They run them through the Wash"... the girl burst into tears and walked off. He said he'd never felt so bad...
Just sayin'.... Wash's death cut DEEP for us Browncoats. Even after all this time, that scene HURTS.
I was looking for this comment and was gonna post if I didn't find it.
Still too soon
Thank you Thank you Thank you your reaction to the movie was perfect. I enjoyed going on this journey with you. I laughed I cried I loved watching with someone else who was in love with this show and is sad to see it end.
I subscribed and will be watching more of your reactions.
They interviewed the creator and he said that if he knew that would have been the last one, he said he would of never killed wash
I would highly recommend watching the outtakes from both the show and the movie. Best damn blooper reels in the 'verse.
I love the one from the end of this movie, with River and Mal on Serenity's bridge. The only thing better than Summer is playful Summer!
Thanks for doing these reactions so I could share them with you. 💚💚
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Yes! Been waiting for this one!
Great reaction. The Miranda story line was supposed to be at the end of Season 2.
Books death helped Mal belief in a cause. Wash death was to show how dangerous it is and anyone could die. There was also talk that Alan and Ron couldn't commit to further movies.
There is a comic book called "A Shepard's Tale.". It is Books back story. Some people liked it and others didn't.
Thanks, I didn't know they had a Book story.
It got cancelled at the right time, I guess -- not getting to see where they were going made it a decent series; trying to explain it just made it typical TV-scifi silliness. I /hated/ Serenity when it first came out.
You made me cry even though I would have and have every single time I’ve watched this. Great reaction Dawn!!🤘🏻💥🔥🙏🏻💯
I love your reactions. Literally you describe my same emotions when I 1st watched many of these movies.
If you really wanna know about the sheppard, they made an official comic called "Serenity: The Shepherd's Tale". There are other comics tying up a few of the loose ends.
Well done Dawn Marie! Consider it friends found and not friends lost. I guarantee you will watch it all again in the future.
Was just watching a reaction to 'Once more with feeling' and something suddenly hit me. The axe River used to fight the reavers is Buffys axe from the final Buffy episodes.
Thank you for bringing back old friends for a visit. I enjoyed your reaction so much. What's next? 😃
Thank you for sharing this journey! Your Firefly reactions have been a consistent bright spot throughout.
You completed the journey! Congrats! I enjoyed your reactions all the way through.
I saw the movie first a couple years before I even learned there was a show. I used to call it Zombies in Space. Told someone once about it and they asked if I'd seen the show.
Damn you woman for making me cry to this all over again!
And as many of said during your journey to this point ... here's your coat ... and, yes, it's brown
It was on sale...
“Oh, I would LOVE to not exist.” Haha
Wow, having seen your other reactions I wasn't sure you could feel that much! 😀 I'm actually glad to see that. I am happy you enjoyed it!
Shepherd Book is no secret....He used to be a NYC Police Detective...=)
Wow...to see the final. Bless you.
You have been the best. To watch you on your journey. I've watched many times. Pray you have hope for the future.
That's the best way to deal with all this. Daydream your own fan fiction. Have a great time with the rewatch ☺
Is it just me or does anyone else find it delightful when Dawn giggled at a man falling on a sword? 😍
If you are sad and annoyed and angry that Firefly is now over.... you can alleviate that pain and sadness by watching a web based show called "Con Man"
I've probably mentioned this to you before, but honestly I'm currently watching about 5 different reaction channels that are in the process of reacting to Firefly that I don't remember who I've mentioned this to yet.
"Con Man" stars Alyn Tudyk and Nathan Filion...so it will be nice to see them together again.
Seriously, I think you'll love the show. It's not very long. It is a web based show so each episode is very short. Look it up!
There's also a great episode of Warehouse 13 where Simon and Kaylee are together (well, obviously it's not Simon & Kaylee, but there's a couple of sly nods to Firefly in the episode, so those in the know will get the Nudge Nudge Wink Wink).
Thank you Dawn. You are always welcome in the Firefly Family from now on and forever.
"No more Firefly. Ever."
Until you watch it again, like all Browncoats should.
Thanks for taking us on this journey with you. Loved it! So sorry that the shows are done. There are books and comic books if you want to learn more, including Book's backstory.
Great reaction! One of my favorite shows and movie!
Firefly was a 20th Century Fox production so at the moment it is owned by Disney. There is talk of a Disney+ series, but Disney is currently in dire straits...
“Dire straits”? How so?
@@AngeloBarovierSD The are in a financial crisis of their own making. They need to pay Comcast a very large sum of money, that they don't have, and they have had a long string of flops with more on the way. The have had a round of layoffs recently, and are likely to sack more people soon. They have just closed the loss making $2billion Star Wars hotel. Their stock value is on a steady decline all year
@@portland-182 Who told you about Disney stock being in a steady decline? It has had wildish peaks and valleys in the past 12 mos. A rough check on my stock trackers has it at 99.40/sh a year ago and 92.53/sh as of this post. That’s just an instanced comparison but I don’t see a “steady decline” in share price.
AUG/22 it peaked at 121.57, its lowest in the period was DEC/22 when it closed at 86.88. The charting of the period shows utterly normal fluctuations and the mean has the slightest decline of ~$5.
(Anyone else can check these prices on a standard web search. No app needed.)
The 5Y trend is flawed because of a spike roughly in OCT/20 at 181/sh. It has notably fallen off from that lifetime high but the entire market trended down in the grips of a certain global event (setting aside some pharma and pharma-adjacent industries).
Disney first went above $80/sh in January of 2014 and has remained above that for almost ten years. So, I’m really not sure what we’re saying here when we suggest the company is in “dire straits”.
"You can't order me around, boy. I'm not one of your crew."
"Yes, you are."
Hits harder every time.
In an interview, I believe Joss Whedon said killing someone would leave the audience unsure if anyone was going to survive. Ron Glass (RIP) and Alan Tudyk both had reasons to not be available for any further Firefly movies so they were the obvious choice.
On a different topic Dawn Marie, if you're looking for something to satisfy Michael Palin and/or The Young Ones cravings then try Michael's series Ripping Yarns and/or Rik Mayall and Ade Edmondson's Bottom.
I told you to bring tissues 😛 There's a little-known fan theory out there that the Alliance would have found Wash, stuck him in cryo, and brought him back later or clone him or something, all in an attempt to get more info about the crew and River. I like that theory and could imagine a sequel where the crew learns that the Alliance saved Wash and go in to rescue him. If you like to read at all, there is a surprisingly good fanfic out there called "Browncoat, Green Eyes" that is a bit of a crossover fic, but is reeeeeeeeeeeally good and I think you'd like it.
9:40 That was a fantastic punch for someone who is not a fighter. Simon can clearly channel his anger when he wants to.
The Operative was played by Chiwetel Ejiofor. If you haven’t seen “Kinky Boots” it’s a fun little British Film.
I love how she's become one of us. Welcome to the browncoats Dawn!
In the script... Walsh had an obsession w/ dinosaur toys as it was the only thing his parents left him as he was abandoned and his childhood in an orphanage until he was so crafty in his abilities he sold himself as a pilot. He did some odd jobs here and there, proved himself... thats how he met Mal (wanting some cheap honest talent).
Enjoy the Serenity Comics/Graphic Novels. Optimal read order: 1. Those Left Behind, 2. Better Days, 3. Shepherd’s Tale, 4. Float Out, and 5) No Power in the Verse. I believe the finale one in the series
(So far) is called Earth that Was, but I haven’t read it yet.
I don't know how many people were like me, but I watched the movie before I even knew about the tv show.
I am sad together. I love this series and this movie (which I did in fact watch before I ever saw an episode of the series, which was an interesting experience).
I still hope you decide to watch Farscape, if you haven't watched the series already. It's a longer series and has a very different feel and casting...but feels similar in that it's a team of misfits going through space together with a struggle to get along, romance along the way and the constant threat of an enormously powerful military bearing down on the crew.
I will admit Farscape doesn't really get traction until about halfway through the first season, but I still stand by it's a good series and worth the long journey.
Anyway, I'm glad you loved Firefly and Serenity so much and it was a privilege to go on this journey with you.
My theory on why they did that to river and others… so the alliance made a mistake and created the reavers… but intentionally created super soldiers to kill them off and cover up what they did
The director and writer/creator of the movie and show asked all the characters if they would be able to sign back on if the show got picked back up after the movie. The two crew members deaths were due to the actors not agreeing that they would return due to previous agreed projects or other reasons.
You are highly accurate guessing plot changes. Plus you're insanely ADORABLE
Thanks for all the Firefly reactions and taking this journey with us.
My favorite quote is actually at the end of the movie, from Mal himself:
"Love. You can know all the math in the ‘Verse, but take a boat in the air you don’t love, she'll throw you off of her just as sure as the turning of worlds. Love keeps her up when she ought to fall down, tells ya she’s hurtin’ ‘fore she keens, makes her a home.”
That, right there, when you know the reason why Mal started flying originally, being all about having freedom, tells you everything about what it means to be free, what it means to be human, and why a man or woman will throw everything they have, and everything they are, into any fight where the outcome is liberty or death.
And it is a spirit that still endures to this day among us Browncoats, though the Alliance's attitudes seems to be winning the fight to bring us all under their rules of living, seems like.
yeah its my favorite as well. especially after living on a sailboat for months at a time.
special mention to 'Storms getting worse' 'we'll pass through it soon enough'