Oldest Crip, Judson Bacot, on how Westside Crip started at Saint Andrews Park (pt.1of2)
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- SOUTH LA - Judson Bacot, 67, talks about the early formation of the Westside Crips, and the role the 100s and Saint Andrews Park played during the early formative years of the Westside Crips. He also talks about the prominent role that Donald "Sweetback" Archie (referred to as Doc) played during the early years of Westside Crips. In 1973 Judson Bacot was the youngest person in San Quentin prison and the first Crip to be sent to California Prison. He also talks about his role in the 1972 Robert Ballou murder, or his lack there of, of which he goes into detail in his new book, "The New Evolution of America's Homemade Terrorists"
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streetgangs what’s the name of his book?
watching the end of the video clearly shows how blackpeople on the global level dont wanna be united
the brother said crips and bloods did look at the BGF with disdain.smh blackpeople have still a long way to go
PArt 2? You mean there is more of this irrelevant shit?
Keep doing what you're doing Alex I got love for you 💯
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''I was the only crip in san quentin''
Let that sink in to know who this guy is
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streetgangs Daam did you know that guy Pee wee you interviewed from Fruit Town Brims was killed by LaPd a couple days ago!!
streetgangs can you find the Crenshaw mafia
Streetgangs my apology he didnt die he was just shot by LaPd!!
Winston Goldsmith Nigga please
Winston Goldsmith Oh drunk ass Winston..EDDIE MURPHY VOICE
Og is so old school that they used to call a "green light " the red light ...super duper og
have respect
@@MrMew-uo4cp respect is earned on another note are you the same person as 3 years ago??
Bacot and his crew were the big homies to Sweetback, Skull and Tookie pre Crippin. His little brother co founded 83 Gangsta which means he probably ran with the Al Capones. When Sweetback and the younger cats around Saint Andrews Park became Crips it was a slight threat to Bacot and Big Bob's control over Saint Andrews Park. So Bacot and Big Bob just walked on West Side Crips based on they reputations.They both caught cases early so they Crippin was done behind the wall. Bacot, Big Bob and Crip Jackie from 69 East Coast are probably the oldest Crips alive today.
Tasty Trendy Inc1 wow...u given thz boyz they knowledge!!
Tasty Trendy Inc1 I heard BIG Jackie was always with took I would like to hear him speak about the times they had together
I'm trying to hear Curtis Buddha Morrow stories dude seemed like he was solid
Tasty Trendy Inc1 Still didn't answer the Question. How in the hell was a 20 year old Young Man become a Member of a 15/16 year old Gang??? In MY World 15/16 year olds FOLLOW 20 year olds.
Last shall B First They’re all from the same neighborhood. The young-ins started to band together to make it new. The Avenues made the crips by default. They turned away the “baby avenues” Raymond Washington and crew so the made their own thing.
Ok I get it brothers and sisters, he is an OG. I can't help but feel sadness, this brother could have been a business tycoon that helped to employ thousands of our people and improve the black community, you can see him overflowing with intelligence. As an educator I'm going to try my best to keep these young brothers and sisters out of the American injustice system. I sure could use some help from our righteous people, let's not give up on one another.
No he couldn't. Systemic white supremacy and Systemic Black American exclusion is real
@@gremgreene2725 exactly hindsight 20/20
Their times were different and very economically hard.. these kids today really have no reason to gangbang..Absolutely none.. to much history and experience as past for these youngers too know
And you watch these type of videos shut up weirdo
Support and buy the man book. Send him 30 to his PayPal. We need to step up and help out brothers like this, he a living book and he need to be taken care of for life #BookOfJudson
Yup. We should idolize a man that started one of the most deadly gangs in American history. Yup
@@michaelgrimm2121 Not idolize. But get it in context, and understand it's origins, understand how gangs started. And it helps parents to know what to look for. Plus it's useful to know such things. Never idolize.
This is one of my favorite interviews from a True Bonnified OG! I have nothing but RESPECT ✊🏽 for this Vato!
Ever notice how articulate O.Gs are?
Cuz they all did 20+ yrs in prison where they read all day
the og right here...
Super duper big homie.
TRUTH TELLER 310
HMMMMM YOUS PROBABLY MEXICAN🇲🇽💖💖💖💖💖💖
you reppin the lollipop mob punk... i was almost your father but the line was too long buster
SWERVV 48 I LOVE BBC 🌈🌈🌈
more like elderlyg
I did 23 year's, and I did time in San Quentin myself, and back then they called the BGF the "415 Car" then some year's later the BGF change their name to a Swahili name Coomi, but the BGF couldn't control the Damu's, and Keyways, because you already had shot caller's, and everybody had their own click like the Blue Note's, UBN, and BL so there was no way the black's from southern California, was gonna let anyone from the Bay area dictate how we ran are program, and vice versa the black's from The Bay, or Northern California wasn't gonna allow black's from Southern California dictate their program
interesting. What years was you in?
@Streetgangs do any of these brothers have a say on today's gang politics. Because damn all this knowledge and history could sharpen the younger brothers.
reg71176 some of them sure do
None whatsoever
what this og said at the end makes sense. Mexican gangs do seem to unite more. black gangs are always divided. you got bloods, crips, and then the pro black and they all stick to that one group no coming together or no structure. I feel this why black people can't get ahead because there's no unity when it comes to our people being attacked by other ethnic groups cause nobody willing to put hoods or colors aside..
Sadly, we'll probably always be divided because we were paired against one another socially from day one. Racial groups who come here on their own choosing are less divided, which is not say they are completely undivided. As sad as reality is, some of us blacks folks, will always thrive on hating one another.
thomas leo yup
Powerule W
Black people have a hard time getting along due to being super-sensitive and not being able to control their emotions.
It's not a hood or colors thing. Every minor issues turns into something serious and it continues with no end.
thomas leo Mexican gangs are "united" but it hasn't led to them accomplishing anything more than Black gangs have. They die young and go to prison just as much if not more.
Excellent interview I found myself glued to e.g. every word he was saying, the history is priceless, I hope there is a part 2 in the works, I'm also going to buy his book good one street gangs thanks.
St. Andrews Park (As a child, my friends and I played on that old Giant Rocket. It got rusty over the years... but you felt like you were on top of the world... away from the harsh reality for just a few moments)
Jimmy Lavender said the same thing. "If Craig Munson would've let Raymond Washington join the Avenues. There would've never been any Crips"
F what Jimmy said Raymond Washington wanted to recruit his hood and make the East side Bishop Crips !!!! They are the weakest Blood's in LA today and yesterday !!!! CRIPS were the top warrior's of LA !
Reggie Muhammad Jimmy the Bishop said the West Side Non Crip gangs were scared to come to the East Side. So the weakest Blood gang is on the West Side.
+Tasty Trendy Inc1 The hardest blood gang's are on the West Side , what the HELL are you talking about ?
Reggie Muhammad How Reggie?? The Mad Swans took over Fremont by the 1980's. The VNG's never controlled Crenshaw and it's in they hood. What's your story??
+Tasty Trendy Inc1 Swan's didn't take over Fremont , and if you didn't know Swan's split off from Crips and they are related to ALL the Crips that surround them !!! They are related to EC , AG , 87GC , 84MSC .... Inglewood family's and VNG and Brims are much more dangerous than Swan's !
OG here is a straight survivor on multiple levels.... respect
Thanks for sharing Alex and much love to the OG.
thanks for watching
One of your better interviews Alonso, is there gonna be a part 2 for this one? Seems like he spoke on a lot of other things...
Definitely a fascinating interview. This is pure history.
Powerule NO THIS IS THE WAY REAL GANG BANG IS
Here is part 2 to this interview: ruclips.net/video/J6n1s0CAtzw/видео.html
He looks good even in his older years!😍😍
Great historian here!!! Sharp clear-wow. Thanks For another great interview.
thanks for watching.
OG. I went to Washington High Class of 79. Grew up in the Hundreds. Rollin Hundreds. Triple Ones. Sportsman is now Jesse Owens Park he speaking truth
This is a true OG.
good interview!!
thanks for that.
Yo Alex you should make this into a podcast especially the O.G interviews it's too much game to be 10 min videos give us that raw 1 hour interview I'm sure the viewers will love it I know I would
Jamal Tucrkile you calling this stuff game? Hahaha. An OGs biggest achievement in life is never getting off the block.
Wow what a role model.
AKAndrea it's all perspective I see a OG that made it through a war and is telling his story that can help the next by learning from his mistakes so yes this is game and he's a role model in my eyes 👀
AKAndrea Why are you watching it?
@@akandrea6731 You need to open your eyes - this OG telling a story - a history!
jay2clay TV your right. I was in a bad mood when making the comments. I apologize to everyone I just hope the future generations just stop the nonsense.
Much respect Alex ✊🏾 another great interview
thanks for your support.
Great Interview. You should do a part 2 and ask him when did the Eight Trey's Form ? And why the West Side Crips broke up into smaller gangs ?
socc69 NO CUZ ASK THE NEXT ONE WEN WAS THE FIRST DICC HE SUCCED THEN IF HE TRIPP JUS PUT A GLOCC AT HIS CHEST AND LAUGH THEN SHOW US THAT VIDEO NOW THAT WOULD B A GOOD VIDEO U KNO KNO LOCC DONT EVEN TRIP CHIP CHOKE
we got that coming next.
check out part 2 here: ruclips.net/video/J6n1s0CAtzw/видео.html
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these OG's should have doctorates, straight dissertation he gave.
Alex, This was one of your best interviews !!!
its the first of the month and i got foodstamps for sale....get at me
Foodstamp Pimp A YO G STRIPPA IMA TRIPPA I WAS GONNA DO THE SAME THING TOUCH MY CAT AND ILL DO THAT BIG POPPA
Foodstamp Pimp you the real MVP today! 100 going for 80 I bet. Lol. Ny knows.
😂😂Hilarious! I'd sub if you had any kind of content on your channel.
Foodstamp Pimp
HAHAHA PROMOTION AT IT'S BEST. GOTA RESPECT YOUR HUSTLE BRO. GET IT WELL IT'S GOOD
Damn Alonzo it seemed like you cut the video as soon as the interview was getting good.. will there be a part two? He was talking about the mindset of crips in the 70s and 80s and not complying with BGF. Sounded interesting.
there is another one coming. thanks for your patience.
Here is part 2: ruclips.net/video/J6n1s0CAtzw/видео.html
When some brothers who were really in the mix in those days stay quiet. The myth of Mexican Mafia and Aaryan Brotherhood dominance grows stronger.
The BGF is damn near never talked about, except those dudes in Maryland. Who are not on the same page or level of the original Cali BGF.
The brothers back then whether BGF or not, were solid. They took it to the Mexicans and white boys.
No one ever talks about that though. The mexican mafia and AB won't confess to the ass whoopings they took.
All the groups took losses no doubt, but the media and Law enforcement make it seem like Eme and AB are invincible.
False.
ComplexBlackness it has something to do with not allowing black people to seem that powerful, America is a white supremacist country so they are not going to acknowledge a Black male organisation as being dominant whether criminal or otherwise
Mud Man That is true.
yall are literally arguing which criminal gang was more dominant in prison to somehow prove racial superiority......haha fucking idiots
Lmao man y’all sound stupid as a bag of rocks. Blacks used to try to overstep all the damn time. The Mexican gangs started hitting the prisons in mass in the late 80s and even more so in the 90s with the 3 Strikes Law.
But the Mafia had already took over yards held by blacks long before that (and with smaller numbers). Just admit it, y’all got out played. Simple as that.
Y’all propagate this “invincible black Superman” theory anytime y’all get your asses handed to you. Guess what, every one got kryptonite, Superman ain’t shit.
The blacks united with the Northerners before AB hooked up with MM, and y’all still got served. Facts
@Marc jones yeah he's trippen and saying a smaller number of Surenos took the yards from a larger number of blacks, only way that would be possible is if they had knives🔪🔪
One of Street Gangs best interviews OG style.
It's weird that when you're young , like 23 and younger , we make a bid deal about the age of our peers even if it's only a 2 years difference ...But when we hit 23 to 25 plus we start hanging around everybody no matter what age they are ....I've learned a lot from this guy in this vid especially at the end ..
Gotta say this interview is really interesting
thanks for watching.
BIG LOVE AND RESPECT TO OOOG BIG BACOT 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 TRUE ORIGINAL SPEAKING STRAIGHT FACTS LOVE THIS INTERVIEW
thanks for watching.
Thanks for the vid, that was an amazing discussion
Awesome interview
Barefoot Pookie ? Aint he the leader of the Gardena Paybacc Crips ?
yeah, but that came later. Learn the timeline.
Ay Its a lot to keep up with, But Its all in the works Alex. Stay up bruh!
Judah TheOracle - I will, I often do when I can. There's literally so much history to cover. I read and watch what I can. But thank you for the input. I would read this mans book cover to cover.
+Judah TheOracle If it wasn't for Raymond there wouldn't be no Blood's just as it would not have been ISRAELITES if it wasn't for Abraham meeting up with Melchizedek the King Priest Canaanite of the Most High God !!!! 😂
Cavs Choked a 1-3 Comeback #Le3-5 Playboy Crip
They need more O.Gs like him that kno the history
Good history lesson
C4Rilla kingpin LIKE A TRUE GOOD TIME AS WELL CAME TO THE POINT ALL THE WAY TO THA END AND THEN UM HE'S ALL WHEN HE SAID UM HES LIKE OH YEA YOU REMEMBER IT WAS ME
Yeah, if you're ign'ant.
Damn man stop ending videos like that with them still talking
this how snoop gonna sound when he get older
Fascinating interview. Great work.
All these gangs and we as blacks are still at the bottom...pointless
whats pointless is the amount of lives these fools have ruined down the years. being in a gang is not the way to get off the bottom. educating yourself is...
The bottom of what? Its all a mirage..there is no bottom or top.
@@WhatYaReading If it's all a mirage, then what is reality?
The Misunderstood Assassin A figment of your imagination.
@@WhatYaReading You just messed with my head. I don't like it!
damnnnn his heart had weave game😂😂😂
great interview very informative much respect to the OG
Great interview!
19, 20 years old is still a kid that’s not too old to run with the crips if they were only 16-17-18
why you cut it off
Skola congo for real he was just getting into the good BGF history and why it was the way it is....it's hard as hell to find real BGF history and they cut og off 😒
Gun Play Gaming yeah that's crazy my nigga
WESTLA LOCSTA why are you talking
nice interview Bruh!!!
JUDSON BACOT WELL ARTICULATED & SPOKEN O.G. RESPECT FROM GREAT SOUTH AUCKLAND NEW ZEALAND
How do these old dudes remember where they were 50yrs ago I'm 37 and can't remember what I ate for breakfast
These guy sounds like he got his mind right...OG
anyone read his book?
you can get his book here: hwww.streetgangs.com/video-clips/062917-oldest-crip-judson-bacot
link doesn't work
is the book any good?
90% of these guys got remedial reading skillz. I mean they make Floyd May look like Shakespeare.
Good stuff. wisdom is real
amazing no technology in that area.
and gangs peak during the 80s in all around la.
what a trip for him to still be breathing and give his point of view.
Rebel Athlete he was locked up for 12 years so he missed the 80s
If guys want to check out the legendary Craig monson check out the interview he did on Josh Bryant's channel. He's a well respected body builder too
kickdabucket and a bandit
I hate the institutionalized homies who been jailing for two long
kickdabucket It's a great interview but he focuses primarily on his bodybuilding career.
yo Alonso you should of let the video play on, it was getting good when he started talking about prison.
OG sounds like Snoop or should I say Snoop sounds like him lol
Dam St. Andrews and 57th street🙌🏾
Sportsman Park was poping every weekend. Softball games Basketball Games in the 70s. Barbeques walk up get a plate from anybody.. No charging.
I was not expecting this video to be a two-parter.
EDIT- 7:57 P.M.: *finishes video 14 minutes later*
That is in no way a bad thing. The interview has been pretty interesting so far.
good vid where is the rest of the footage though?
best interview ever
really? thanks
Salute to the real one tripple OG✊🏾
I knew Raymond Washington if it wasn't for him West side would have been double dip boy's !!!! East side is where it started and Raymond started EAST COAST CRIP !!!!
Raymond did not start East Coast crips hes from California idiot Hes from the west coast
In Cali the Eastside Crip sets later on called themselves East Coast Crips to separate themselves from the Westside of LA. If you are a crip from the east coast of the U.S. that's why they say go visit and take a vacation to pay homage to understand what the he'll you are getting into joining gangs. That stuff been going on since the 70s and 80s
Very well done!
You guys cut him off right when he was getting into the good history of BGF. It's not easy finding information about BGF. The real BGF try googling basic info pops up and some cats from Baltimore. Can we please get a part 2 with the BGF history.
Is dope asf listening da O.G.s stories and knowledge
Respect big homie
i thought this was a kev mac video lol. but i like when you guys do the ogz. These vids have substance and logical thinking. most. but not all the young guys are lame to listen to when speak on the current situation. Carson movement, a few others i give props but the rest are corny to be honest. when he started out talking about they had a protocol in the early days to squash beefs before they got out of hand amongst crips i felt he should have elaborated more. like its messed up and depressing to keep seeing hoods who had ckose ties or simply got along to constantly fall out over bullshit and the fact instead of finding solutions to nip it in the bud they rather promote dissing and ignorance. like tbe 40s and 60s for instance. thats a very unfortunate situation that could of been squash if it were structure and leadership. i remember the video with the young guy from fruit town "you know" lol. he made a good point when he said how they dont beef with otber bloods because their logic is its an individual issue not the whole gang. so with that i see it like if two dudes have a problem from allied gangs thats their issue. and should be settle as such. if one or the other takes it further than words or fist, that person should be delt with accordingly by his own gang because the rules should be one man not going to ruin or tear down this beneficial relationship over personal beefs. That in it self would save many lives, from tbe grave and streets and keep shit cool.
do you not know we interviewed this same guy 4 years ago? Who was doing this before ? No one, so anyone doing this now should b saying, "I thought this was an Alex Alonso video" so please, respect the culture, the grind and our history. Thanks for watching.
touggie2000 Naw....Kev Mac would have asked different questions regarding who started the West Side and who recruited him to be a Crip....Especially if he didn't hang with Tookie.....Alex Alonso is from NYC and didn't grow up around Crips and Bloods.....Kev Mac is actually from Los Angeles and Rollin 60's.....You can't just tell him anything......Kev Mac is a real gang member.....Alex Alonso studies gang members.....Streetgangs have been out for 20 years and never gave the True History of the Bloods or Crips.... Kev Mac did both in a couple of months.....
streetgangs I remember when you interviewed these guys.. And we respect your craft (that's why we subscribed to you) But me personally I like hearing from the OG'z (And I'm some what of a youngin myself being in my early 30's) I just dont really have no interest in what niggas in my age group or younger has to say! That would be my only vice (with your content).. But at the same time I understand you have to cover all boards! So I respect the grind "THATS THE REASON I'M SUBSCRIBED" So keep up the good work and thanks for being constant.
+Tasty Trendy Inc1 RAYMOND WASHINGTON STARTED WEST SIDE CRIP !!!! I'M A ORIGINAL EAST SIDE CRIP !!!!
streetgangs cmon you all that i wrote as a positive idea and gesture for your videos and all you took from that or choose to recognize was the "kev Mac" short sentence? wow that is very arrogant of you! i do notice many bloggers or popular social media characters never respond or say thank you when giving props. you included, i have notice you mostly make comments when in defense mode or taking a know it all stance . For instance saying gang colors dont matter which is bull. when in another one of your videos G aktive said he thought them Harlem dudes who bust on him was from 20s due to being in all red. thats a color matter situation if i ever heard of one! now since you want to get in your feelings about "kev Mac" lets be real. yes you did interview this guy a few years ago with his co d. i remember. great interview, but not because of Alex questions but simply the OGz have a interesting take and story to tell. like honestly Alex questions are ok. not really that good. like the last comment said Kev is from the set! alex is not and you can tell. Street Gangs may have interview the Ogz before but doesn't mean you do it better. Kev interviews are way more suspenseful and you can visualize the conversation. this is due to the way the question are presented and are set up. Streetgangs you interview these kids and the questions and hole set up seems weak. the interviews are short and usually have no direction or purpose. and the ones thst are good like i said they usually stop premature. the others are just slow and these kids arent really talking about nothing. maybe if you went in the interviews with a subject and objective, it could be better. then you go to these off brands in New york who are really wack! really a waist if your time and ours. that hood in the bronx was pathetic smh. those OT guys interviews are watered down because they're trying to give LA gang history and culture when their not from LA. like they should take pride in their own culture amd history and that would be interesting and intriguing to know about where they come from not who they want to be like. i say all this with respect and i mean well. but your defensive stance to my short kev mac sentence opened the door for feed back. you may not like everything i said but if your a true professional and value your fans, you should be able to take criticism good or bad. and try showing appreciation to your fans who give you props by at least saying thank you without the sarcasm. this is just a little reality check. no one is perfect or above critic. and as fans we give you a audience and views if not for us you wouldn't have been around for so long. so hear us out without being so defensive and arrogant. truth is kev mac is out here now. its not you alone anymore. so step your game up thats all. Peace!
Finally something good on this channel, Kev Mac been killing it over there.
ANY ONE TALKING BAD ABOUT THIS OG IM REALLY SORRY BECAUSE U DONT KNO
I love listening to the OGs
OG.
oldest crip living from my home state michigan im from detroit i wonder what part he from?
He’s my neighbor and he’s in Arizona now
“Barefoot Pookie, Warlock and.... Keith Henderson...” haha that last name came out of no where
if you watch the Donald "Doc" Archie interview, he also mentions Keith Henderson as the youngster, so NO, it didnt come out of no where.
streetgangs
I realize that..., just thought it was humorous that Dude is saying all these other Guys street names, then the last Dudes name is a regular phone book one... thx Alonso
I actually really liked this video,guy giving interview sounded like guy from VLAD.TV and I dont like how he speaks to people but I respect what this man said and how he carried himself
I see the "loyalty and sense of unity" part was quickly edited to the next subject.
Judson Bacot Respect Brother 👍🌍
The Thought the UG's, or Underground Crip's was on of the oldest Keyway gang's on the Westside
this is very interesting, what was the name of that other dudes book?
This is your OG's OG.
Interesting how you all view the situation we residents (from the same block and schools) survived in South Central back then...don't be so impressed. Study the literary works of Stanley "Tookie" Williams whose peace manifesto bleeds redemption. Will have to check out this brother's book for stressing a change of mentality from the self destruction of street codes.
The Race Analyst, PHD send your kids to hbcus and get them education. Smaller classes, professors are closer to ask questions, etc. Send them to any college but consider hbcus.
What happened to the FORUMS link on the streetgangs.com website?
interview was too short but a good one
I think a fraternity needs to be started with the triple OG Crips each set will be a chapter all voluntary members ship conduct business just like all other paternities maybe we can change the mentality of some of the gang members to be legitimate
This is something that should be done more often, interviewing youngings always leads to them talking about their BMs or whatever the fuck.... This shit real history... Respect
dam i wanna hear more from this guy...
make it part 2 of it plz and start where when he was talking bout the BGF
Here is part 2: ruclips.net/video/J6n1s0CAtzw/видео.html
Very interesting
This dude and his crew was nothing more than streets bullies. The time that you did was fine. You deserved it! Everything that you got in prison and your conviction was all you. You claim you just went over and stood by Cuzz when you guys killed Robert Ballou. You were in on it and you know it. Making victims of guys who only wanted to go to school, get good grades and do what is right was terrible. I never once sensed that you felt any remorse for all of the pain that you caused people needlessly. Big time street gangster snitched on the Compton Crips and Mac Thomas. Hommie, real gangster don't snitch. That is what you did. Back in 1966 when those cops told you to get your all out of the street they should have done society a favor and busted a cap in your ass. Snitchin' on Craig Munson as well. WOW!!! Damn, why did your heart have to jump!
Triple O.G. Homie stating facts not fiction much luv
What is the name of his book??? I want to purchase it.
MADNEW YORKER read the description
@ Streetgangs'
Thank you.
I must say that you have some sick ass people posting comments on these videos!!!
MADNEW YORKER read the description
get his book here: www.streetgangs.com/video-clips/062917-oldest-crip-judson-bacot
his book link is in the description.
Didn’t know Apollo creed was a Og west side Crip
Love you BIGC HOMIE DRACULA ORIGINAL WESTSIDER GANGCSTARZ
Snoop dogg sounds like this guy, similar cadence.
There was so much more respect and sophistication back in the day.
This OG knows his shit
"His heart jumped"????
Lol