@@TheKayakCrew absolutely! I think it must be the track and glide that does it for me . Although the high sides most definitely catch the wind , that’s my only gripe.
We have two Story 3-man kayaks and we use them quite often on lakes, rivers and in the sea. I found the stability problem quite difficult to get used to and as we have 3 small kids paddling with us, I bought some SUP stabilisers and rigged them on the sides, held in place with straps underneath and rope with clips on some new D-rings I glued on the side. This makes the craft much more stable and enjoyable and is still quite speedy through the water. James
That's interesting. I looked into those stabilisers before but have never actually tried them. I thought about us maybe using them on sea kayaking trips when it got a bit rough. Funnily enough, I had the same idea as you of threading the straps through D-rings on the side of the kayak. Glad they work for you. Do you attach them out of the way of the where you paddle or do you just paddle over the top of them?
What sort of river kayaking were you thinking of? Flat water cruising or grade 1-2 white water? The current price on the Division 1 seems to be about £700 in the UK. A more stable kayak would be the Sandbanks Optimal which is full drop stitch, clamshell design. A hybrid kayak with tube sides but drop stitch floor could be the Itiwit X100.
@@Gerdifuchs I think if you want to do grade 1-2 white water and do not want to spend much then the Aqua Marina Steam may be a good option. This comes in 1 and 2 person models and is more geared towards moderate white water since it’s made from reinforced pvc. It’s also very cheap at the moment. Sea Eagle do a good white water inflatable but they are quite expensive.
Hi, sorry late reply, been away a few days. Assuming you are in the UK, the Sandbanks Optimal is a great 2 panel full drop stitch kayak. It comes in a solo only version and also a longer tandem version (which can also be used as a large solo). Link to our review of it is below. The only other 2 panel drop stitch kayak in the UK is I think the Aquatec Ottowa. It's a similar shape to the Sandbanks but the Sandbanks has better accessories and a slight V to the hull so it tracks better. We've used the tandem version of the Sandbanks a lot on the coast, rivers, canal and lakes. ruclips.net/video/6CtKopiXsPQ/видео.htmlsi=eNI9y6zOFolXd_q_
Good review Carlos. I must admit I'm not certain I see too many benefits of a 3 chamber full dropstitch like these. I also think it looks awkward to paddle. I dunno if the paddle is too short, the kayak too wide or the sides too high but you looked like you were struggling to get a full stroke.
Thanks. We are not too keen on the 3 panel drop stitch kayaks either. They are fast and track well plus you get a lot of cockpit space. The big downside is the stability. The primary stability is poor. They do have secondary stability but we find that once the kayak pitches past a certain angle then it flips very quickly. Also, being full drop stitch, they are not light (especially if you had a tandem or 3 person one). The paddle you get with the Story is actually quite long but it's terrible, v loose. I was probably using a shorter paddle in the videos. Its not that wide but the sides are high, though it was probably more to do with my poor paddle technique 🤣
Thanks for this really useful review. I have exactly the same Kayak and I couldn't agree more with your issue of stability. I think its a fine looking Kayak and its fast in the water. However, I've had the same experience as you - its just too wobbly especially if the water is a bit choppy so I'm thinking of selling it for an alternative kayak with more stability. What river are you paddling on there? It looks a bit like the loughor? Huw
Hi Huwwi, thanks. Yes, kayaks like the Story Division 1 are fast but they feel very wobbly and tippy. I have tipped out of it a few timers just trying to get into it. I prefer other types of kayak. There are various locations featured in the video - the Towy up by Dryslwyn castle, the Neath estuary, the Western Cleddau, Afan River (Port Talbot), Ely river, etc. I do not think I used the Story on the Loughor but we have done a few kayaks on the Loughor with other inflatables, really enjoyed it.
A have similar model from another company ( virtually the same ) and i find it very stable even in windy conditions when the water is choppy. The seat is shit in my opinion with very weak support and i am trying to make some better foot rests - something like sea eagle razorlite has or maybe itiwit x500. Maybe one negative i find is that it is tracking very well and hence it is maybe little more difficult to turn. Nice review though.
@@andrewwwolf thanks. What brand of kayak do you have? Maybe your brand is water see than the Story? This type of kayak does track well due to the V shaped hull and the plastic bow cone. I guess you are trying to attach foot rests to the side of the cockpit (like on the Sea Eagle)?
Hello just found your channel and it looks like you have some great trips 👍are you a kayak group that is open to members or just a bunch of mates who kayak together. ? Im not on facebook but live in swansea and would love to kayak with like minded paddlers. Great videos.
Hi Andrew, thanks for your kind comment. We are mostly mates but anyone is welcome to join us at at time. The more the merrier! If you are not on Facebook then I suggest you message me via info@kayakcrew.co.uk and I can give you a bell if you want? We mostly do flat water cruising on rivers, estuaries and coasts. What sort of kayaking do you do?
This is a awesome kayak … the more you use it the more you want to use it again . I’ve a few inflatables but this one is my favourite for sure 👌🏼
While not the most stable, this type of kayak is the fastest of the inflatables that I’ve used and maybe tracks the best too.
@@TheKayakCrew absolutely! I think it must be the track and glide that does it for me . Although the high sides most definitely catch the wind , that’s my only gripe.
We have two Story 3-man kayaks and we use them quite often on lakes, rivers and in the sea. I found the stability problem quite difficult to get used to and as we have 3 small kids paddling with us, I bought some SUP stabilisers and rigged them on the sides, held in place with straps underneath and rope with clips on some new D-rings I glued on the side. This makes the craft much more stable and enjoyable and is still quite speedy through the water.
James
That's interesting. I looked into those stabilisers before but have never actually tried them. I thought about us maybe using them on sea kayaking trips when it got a bit rough. Funnily enough, I had the same idea as you of threading the straps through D-rings on the side of the kayak. Glad they work for you. Do you attach them out of the way of the where you paddle or do you just paddle over the top of them?
What kajak in this price range would be good for rivers?
What sort of river kayaking were you thinking of? Flat water cruising or grade 1-2 white water?
The current price on the Division 1 seems to be about £700 in the UK.
A more stable kayak would be the Sandbanks Optimal which is full drop stitch, clamshell design.
A hybrid kayak with tube sides but drop stitch floor could be the Itiwit X100.
@@TheKayakCrew I think 1-2. But I am an amateur. I want to try if it is something for me. So obv. I dont want to spend much money..
@@Gerdifuchs I think if you want to do grade 1-2 white water and do not want to spend much then the Aqua Marina Steam may be a good option. This comes in 1 and 2 person models and is more geared towards moderate white water since it’s made from reinforced pvc. It’s also very cheap at the moment. Sea Eagle do a good white water inflatable but they are quite expensive.
Hi, thanks for the vid, can you offer examples of 2 panel drop stitched kayaks please? I am looking for a new kayak. thanks
Hi, sorry late reply, been away a few days. Assuming you are in the UK, the Sandbanks Optimal is a great 2 panel full drop stitch kayak. It comes in a solo only version and also a longer tandem version (which can also be used as a large solo). Link to our review of it is below. The only other 2 panel drop stitch kayak in the UK is I think the Aquatec Ottowa. It's a similar shape to the Sandbanks but the Sandbanks has better accessories and a slight V to the hull so it tracks better. We've used the tandem version of the Sandbanks a lot on the coast, rivers, canal and lakes. ruclips.net/video/6CtKopiXsPQ/видео.htmlsi=eNI9y6zOFolXd_q_
Good review Carlos. I must admit I'm not certain I see too many benefits of a 3 chamber full dropstitch like these. I also think it looks awkward to paddle. I dunno if the paddle is too short, the kayak too wide or the sides too high but you looked like you were struggling to get a full stroke.
Thanks. We are not too keen on the 3 panel drop stitch kayaks either. They are fast and track well plus you get a lot of cockpit space. The big downside is the stability. The primary stability is poor. They do have secondary stability but we find that once the kayak pitches past a certain angle then it flips very quickly. Also, being full drop stitch, they are not light (especially if you had a tandem or 3 person one). The paddle you get with the Story is actually quite long but it's terrible, v loose. I was probably using a shorter paddle in the videos. Its not that wide but the sides are high, though it was probably more to do with my poor paddle technique 🤣
Thanks for this really useful review. I have exactly the same Kayak and I couldn't agree more with your issue of stability. I think its a fine looking Kayak and its fast in the water. However, I've had the same experience as you - its just too wobbly especially if the water is a bit choppy so I'm thinking of selling it for an alternative kayak with more stability. What river are you paddling on there? It looks a bit like the loughor? Huw
Hi Huwwi, thanks. Yes, kayaks like the Story Division 1 are fast but they feel very wobbly and tippy. I have tipped out of it a few timers just trying to get into it. I prefer other types of kayak. There are various locations featured in the video - the Towy up by Dryslwyn castle, the Neath estuary, the Western Cleddau, Afan River (Port Talbot), Ely river, etc. I do not think I used the Story on the Loughor but we have done a few kayaks on the Loughor with other inflatables, really enjoyed it.
A have similar model from another company ( virtually the same ) and i find it very stable even in windy conditions when the water is choppy. The seat is shit in my opinion with very weak support and i am trying to make some better foot rests - something like sea eagle razorlite has or maybe itiwit x500. Maybe one negative i find is that it is tracking very well and hence it is maybe little more difficult to turn. Nice review though.
@@andrewwwolf thanks. What brand of kayak do you have? Maybe your brand is water see than the Story? This type of kayak does track well due to the V shaped hull and the plastic bow cone. I guess you are trying to attach foot rests to the side of the cockpit (like on the Sea Eagle)?
@@TheKayakCrew my kayak comes from VidaXL website. They have it available in one or two seater config.
Hello just found your channel and it looks like you have some great trips 👍are you a kayak group that is open to members or just a bunch of mates who kayak together. ? Im not on facebook but live in swansea and would love to kayak with like minded paddlers. Great videos.
Hi Andrew, thanks for your kind comment. We are mostly mates but anyone is welcome to join us at at time. The more the merrier! If you are not on Facebook then I suggest you message me via info@kayakcrew.co.uk and I can give you a bell if you want? We mostly do flat water cruising on rivers, estuaries and coasts. What sort of kayaking do you do?