@@flyingdiscproductions Why do you think it would be a higher cost? Than what? One thing you would need to take account of when costing something like this is the time and wages of skilled labour. And what's wrong with plywood?
@@christiaant What's wrong with plywood? Well, that is a whole discussion. And yes, I use plywoods. And most can't be outside even painted, before they degrade ... maybe 5-7 years in some places.
See bottom of this page for comparison: www.wikihouse.cc/About - u-value = 0.15 W/m2K and airtightness of 1-3 m3/h.m2, so yes it would save money for the end user in terms of energy to run the building
@@flyingdiscproductions these calculations are made by calculating the thermal conductivity of each element together as a whole wall construction, which gives you the u-value. The lower the figure the less heat will transfer through the construction, making it easier to retain heat in winter and keep heat out in summer. The airtightness can be measured directly using a blower test. Again the lower the figure the tighter the construction and therefore the more control you have over ventilation, ensuring you don’t lose excess heat when ventilating the building.
I saw a video from the ceo and she said it wont cost any less to build, its faster to build and slightly less costly to maintain.. i think its a wonderful idea but fillied with flaws. Especially now that sheets of plywood have doubled in cost in the last year...
Four Union Carpenters charging $40/hr USD for side work would frame and sheath the floor, walls, and ceiling using traditional stick framing methods in 2 days tops. Lumber pack $4000 on the high end, labor $ $2500 total $6000. When DIY requires 4x the cost for building blocks - I question the efficiency of the method. That money is better spent in other ways.
Due to the current situation in the UK with Covid-19, all site work is paused. Once it is ready you are more than welcome to visit as it is an open for public cafe. Located at Cotteridge Park - Birmingham, UK 🇬🇧
Norte Fotográfico Hi Norte, digital files are not available on the public domain but you can join the Slack group here www.wikihouse.cc/Blackbird for full access to the wikihouse community and design files.
Great - we figured out how to build a box. I presumes windows pre-planned for cut-out when ready. I didn’t see any planning around utilities or will this be a candle/honey bucket home feature?
6 days to build a plain non-weatherproof box, with the number of people that were there, plus all the fitting troubles, and the time on a CNC to cut it in the first place ... doesn't seem like it's worth the effort, compared to just building it from timber and sheets ... or maybe that's just my opinion ...
Fair-point as this is not meant to replace any traditional construction methods but give wider choice to consumer with higher U-Values (300mm deep insulated walls), low thermal bridging, very airtight and reduced onsite labour cost as most construction is done in the workshop without having to worry about UK weather.
The technology has been proven extensively at the commercial level. At the DIY level the system will likely never replace conventional homes but is great for small out buildings. Scandinavians have been applying the syatem for decades.
What amazes me with this system is, how four engineers from a non construction background can put a building up in just six days. 👏
it is not like it is rocket science.
@@flyingdiscproductions We are glad you recognised the ease of this system.
@@pulpbuild yet the ease comes with higher cost and use of plywood.
@@flyingdiscproductions Why do you think it would be a higher cost? Than what? One thing you would need to take account of when costing something like this is the time and wages of skilled labour. And what's wrong with plywood?
@@christiaant What's wrong with plywood? Well, that is a whole discussion. And yes, I use plywoods. And most can't be outside even painted, before they degrade ... maybe 5-7 years in some places.
Thanks for sharing, very comprehensive time lapse.
Really good time lapse, well done.
SUPER IDEA . POZDRAWIAM .
nice -does this save any money for the end user?
See bottom of this page for comparison: www.wikihouse.cc/About - u-value = 0.15 W/m2K and airtightness of 1-3 m3/h.m2, so yes it would save money for the end user in terms of energy to run the building
@@christiaant really? and how was that calculated?
@@flyingdiscproductions these calculations are made by calculating the thermal conductivity of each element together as a whole wall construction, which gives you the u-value. The lower the figure the less heat will transfer through the construction, making it easier to retain heat in winter and keep heat out in summer. The airtightness can be measured directly using a blower test. Again the lower the figure the tighter the construction and therefore the more control you have over ventilation, ensuring you don’t lose excess heat when ventilating the building.
I saw a video from the ceo and she said it wont cost any less to build, its faster to build and slightly less costly to maintain.. i think its a wonderful idea but fillied with flaws. Especially now that sheets of plywood have doubled in cost in the last year...
And its not any more environmentaly benifitial other then the equipment used in normal construction...
Great!
Four Union Carpenters charging $40/hr USD for side work would frame and sheath the floor, walls, and ceiling using traditional stick framing methods in 2 days tops. Lumber pack $4000 on the high end, labor $ $2500 total $6000. When DIY requires 4x the cost for building blocks - I question the efficiency of the method. That money is better spent in other ways.
Can we visit it? Very interesting.
Due to the current situation in the UK with Covid-19, all site work is paused. Once it is ready you are more than welcome to visit as it is an open for public cafe. Located at Cotteridge Park - Birmingham, UK 🇬🇧
Are the digital files of this wikihouse avaiable for download somewhere?
Norte Fotográfico Hi Norte, digital files are not available on the public domain but you can join the Slack group here www.wikihouse.cc/Blackbird for full access to the wikihouse community and design files.
Great - we figured out how to build a box. I presumes windows pre-planned for cut-out when ready. I didn’t see any planning around utilities or will this be a candle/honey bucket home feature?
from my basic calculations it is very expensive technology at this stage.
No electricity in the walls?
Services are not within the wall in this project. They are in the service void created by 38mm battens and plasterboard.
6 days to build a plain non-weatherproof box, with the number of people that were there, plus all the fitting troubles, and the time on a CNC to cut it in the first place ... doesn't seem like it's worth the effort, compared to just building it from timber and sheets ... or maybe that's just my opinion ...
Fair-point as this is not meant to replace any traditional construction methods but give wider choice to consumer with higher U-Values (300mm deep insulated walls), low thermal bridging, very airtight and reduced onsite labour cost as most construction is done in the workshop without having to worry about UK weather.
The technology has been proven extensively at the commercial level. At the DIY level the system will likely never replace conventional homes but is great for small out buildings. Scandinavians have been applying the syatem for decades.
yup - how many hours to cut all that plyboard?
@@pulpbuild higher u-values that concrete or styrofoam?
@@flyingdiscproductions 3 weeks of cutting. I guess you can do the maths for cost and hours by a small workshop.
Did a vapour barrier go in?
Jason Lloyd Yes vapour barrier went in. See our Instagram page for site progress. instagram.com/pulpbuild_uk/