Its never been proved that Mr. America was Hulk Hogan. The best theory is that Mr. America was a Japanese wrestler who went by "Hulk Machine" in the 1980s.
@@Jim-TunerHulk Hogan had 36 hour days or something like that because of air travel. So it's possible. Lmao Edit: he eventually says it in the video! Haha! I just remember Hulk said it when he was in Japan.
Facts. It's already tomorrow for Hogan's yesterday and his next week starts when he lands again in Tokyo which is tomorrow, so yesterday in Florida and today in California. Steiner must have been his travel agent with that maths!
Watching that Lie detector made me and my Dad Crack up, he watched WWF through the Golden era and he said it was the funniest thing hed seen in Wrestling
I don't think it was ever a secret McMahon was a pervert. It just legally and culturally caught up with him in this more modern era that doesn't tolerate it as much. Even there, there's also been a shift on what perversions are tolerated, and I'll leave it at that, since YT can be very hawkish in protecting such things. But, you know, what are they going to do in another culture shift that no longer tolerates protecting these perversions either?
Wwe was so stacked in 2003. Insane how many top stars were gone within a year. And then some people blame solely Eddie on why the house shows weren’t drawing
yes but the difference is that Andre the Giant played both characters whereas Mr America was played by two different wrestlers, or if you believe the rumours, played by THREE wrestlers on rotation to keep fans guessing
Isn’t it crazy that Hogan and Piper were back at center stage in 2003?! At that time, late 40s-early 50s felt so old, but now a lot of top stars are in that range!
They also were in the spotlight for 30 years too. Most of the current guys started late or were in the indies for a while. Like AJ Styles still feels young even though he's going on 47
Mr America and Hulk should have teamed with Dusty Rhodes and the Midnight Rider against Mick Foley, Mankind, Cactus Jack and Dude Love at Survivor Series.
The Hulk v Vince streetfight was amazing at WM19. Watched it so many times, especially Vince coming up from the apron lookinh hilariously demonic with a led pipe
@anthonyterry8162 we really don't know how Vince sold the gimmick initially to him. Vince can sell you the world while pulling the rug not long afterwards, which is probably what happened here.
Mate i know this is random but i recently discovered your channel over a no mercy review, which made me buy an n64 and the game and watch 100s of your videos. Thanks for everything you do mate. Subbed 4 life....
Did you actually find the old console and game. That's amazing! I have all the old N64 WCW games on my N64 Emulator. I'm just adding 'No Mercy' to the games folder now. I hope it's as good as the WCW Vs NWO game. I still play that one all the time.
Vince was one of the best things. Usually a boss shoving himself into angles sucks the momentum out of anything it touches (The Authority), but Vince had the charisma and conviction in his delivery, that it worked. He also didn't mind selling and making himself look goofy to further an angle. Whatever he's done IRL, there's no denying on TV he was absolute gold.
Not to mention the bumps he took over the years when he became Mr. MacMahon. Not many promoters could possibly claim that they'd take such risks to further angles and make others look good when smacking down the boss, but Vinnie Mac definitely made that work too.
I couldn't agree more, Vince knew how to sell an act despite being a perpetual heel. If the audience was entertained at his expense then he knew he could turn them into paying audience. The Authority couldn't (and wouldn't) do such a thing.
@@chaosgreybloodVinnie Mac gave it as good as he got, especially in the latter part of the Monday Night Wars where WWF/WWE had a real chance of going under courtesy of WCW.
I liked the gimmick at the time. I remember being disappointed when it was abruptly ended. I agree with Hogan, it could have went on for longer and I can see his point about jobbing out at MSG.
I saw Mr. America's run on a channel that runs Pro Wrestling old shows on Twitch and the whole chat kept "who is this guy? It's cool that Hogan let him use his Real American theme" and things like that. That was a great moment
@@rafaelmauricio8000 Well, Mr. McMahon somewhat had us convinced until Mr. America took the polygraph, thereby concluding that he was in fact not the Hulkster.
Funny thing is I think Hogan pulled the mask up at every show after they went off the air. I was at the Greensboro Coliseum show, and after he got hit in the back with the chair by Piper he later got back in the ring, gave VInce the bird ashe pulled up his mask, and hyped the crowd in his hulkster way. I think the pulling the mask up in NY was just the easy story end for Vince.
It's a shame after the Mr. America storyline, we didn't see Doink Hogan. Also, this just made me remember back in the 80s, Hulk Hogan wore a mask as part of The Machines stable w/ Lou Albano as manager.
Thinking back, it would have been even more hilarious if Hogan had come out to "American Made" while portraying Mr. America, instead of "Real American".
I just asked my 60 year old mum that knows nothing about wrestling. "Why did Hulk Hogan quit the WWF?" She said "because he got old!?" Not quite mum. "I said have you ever Heard of Mr America?" She blanked me and left the room.
I know people didn't like it, but I thought the Mr. America gimmick was fun, I dont think it would lasted years, but I think it could last a year or 2. Its kinda like the Ezekiel/Kevin Owen storyline that they kinda ended too soon (IMO) it was very entertaining seeing Vince go crazy (kinda like how KO was going crazy). I was watching Smackdown weekly to see all the crazy things Vince was going to do to prove it wasn't Hogan, and then out of no where it just ended.
I thought it was hilarious. The hair and mustache popping out of the mask, the speech pattern, the shirt-ripping...it was over-the-top and corny in a way that only WWE could pull off. And it all built up to the street fight between Vince and Hogan, which was a great match for what it’s worth.
I remember being VERY entertained by this whole angle. It was almost as if Hogan was poking fun at himself, and McMahon wasn't laughing because he was the one who pushed all the over-the-top stuff back in the day. I'm a Hulkamaniac for life. Flaws and all. I also liked how it set up Stephanie as a bit of a babyface considering her history with her Dad and his *ahem* side women. I did hate Sable getting involved out of nowhere and poor Zach being jobbed out at every opportunity. All in all, I was sad to see the angle end so abruptly and wish it had lasted longer! Otherwise, classic WWE antics all the way!
As a kid at the time this whole story aired. I was laughing and loving it because of the legend status of Hogan and Piper appearing on tv. I was always a fan of goofy skits too. So it was enjoyable for me. I still laugh at it too. Specially the lie detector test 😂😂😂😂
I loved this storyline when it was playing out. The Mr. America gimmick was hilarious. Hogan played it to perfection so I was sad to hear this was his reason for quitting. I was just really hyped to see Hogan, Piper and McMahon doing crazy stuff every week.
I feel like this was around when I stopped watching wrestling. I started working the nights it came on so I never got to watch anymore. I never knew how this storyline ended. Thank you!
This is one of my favorite Hogan eras, largely because his “that doesn’t work for me brother” infinite life glitches weren’t as powerful. They treated him as any other (still a lister) and had him lose more than he ever had in the previous 20 years. He hated it SO MUCH. It was also something NEW with hogan, something he only briefly did once from 96-99 outside of 1983.
I noticed that even in his match with Kurt angle, hogan actually reached the ropes so technically, Angle should’ve let Hogan go…lmao, the Hulkster thought of everything
I don't think he hated it, he knew his place by then and was fine with it as long as it got him his paydays and he was putting over people who he was fine with. He put over Lesnar better than anyone.
@@RG-lr4pkalways love a good nuclear level hot take. I’m saying it was good he was treated as just another “a lister”, like The Rock, and stone Cold, and Kurt Angle, and Lesner, and whoever else was big in the company at the time. He was still booked astronomically strong, he just wasn’t allowed to kill 18 months of storytelling because he didn’t want to lose a match because Vince would never put up with that like Eric Bischoff would
@@jbanks979 Kurt told a few stories of Hogan playing games, like no selling when he was supposed to get knocked off the ring apron. Another time, Vince actually told Kurt to get in Hogans face because he knew that despite any objections Hogan may have about something, Hogan wasn’t going to try anything with a shooter like Angle
Hulk Hogan should have realized that his best days are behind him, the fact he didn't like that he was booked to lose, proves that he is in business for himself.
Would you have wanted Hogan to have been floundering around like Drew McIntyre is rn? I understand Hogan wasn't peak Hogan, but to think WWE didn't poorly use talents at any time is false. Hogan saw what appeared to be that writing on the wall and he was probably right. I don't really blame him for calling an audible and leaving instead of basically going through what Drew and others have gone through.
@@walker1984 you bring a good point, however his popularity, can generate a lot of money for himself and the WWE. So what if he was booked to lose, him just being on TV could give him a huge pay check.
Hogan clearly didn't like the way WWE was focusing on building up Brock Lesnar at the time. And Hogan didn't like losing in such a way in that match. Hogan took off his mask on his own and probably didn't even plan to do so at the start of the day. Hogan always took wrestling and winning personally - even bring The Ultimate Warrior to WCW, just so Hogan could get a win over The Ultimate Warrior and even the score. Hogan even had it in his contract that he could never lose in a clean loss. Hogan's contract made it clear the only way he could lose is if there was outside interference of some kind. I suspect Mr. America was something Vince wanted to go with for quite a while. The proof of this is the action figures that were released. But Hogan then forced Vince to kill off the Mr. America character by taking his mask off.
I seem to remember when Andre and Hogan returned from Japan in the mid-80's, they too adapted a masked gimmick. They joined the legendary "Machines" team as "Hulk Machine" and "Giant Machine" (forgive me if I screw up details, I'm writing this from memory). And I seem to remember that the whole storyline was that the heels feuding with the machines were convinced this was Hulk and Andre but they continued to deny it. This seems like a big callback, or at least an homage to that storyline, which I have no doubt, Vince was also involved in, at least creating it.
The original storyline just involved Andre as Giant Machine and Ax From Demolition as Super Machine. The Machines was designed to give Andre time off to film the movie the Princess Bride. So they had about five or six other guys put on masks including Hogan and become machines for a night and be the partner of the Super Machine.
I actually really like Mr. America. Don't think it would've lasted much longer but if they just had a big payoff match at one of the big 4 PPVs and then put Hogan back in the Red & Yellow then all would've been fine.
Yeah I feel like Vince should have pulled the Trigger on a Triple threat at summerslam with Terry Boulder vs Hulk Hogan vs Super Destroyer and Mr America. Vince failed by not booking this I think even he knows that
I thought you were trolling on your comment, but I just looked it up and I cannot believe Netflix is going to be showing RAW starting next year. And it's odd too since Netflix International gets everything, but Netflix US only seems to be getting raw.
Mr. America is not Hulk Hogan. He looked up to Hogan as a kid, and he trained, took his vitamins and said his prayers just like his childhood hero did. And he ended up looking a lot like him. 😆 I hope he's doing well nowadays. 😆
I was at that MSG show when Mr America finally unmasked and it was literally like the end of any classic 1980s wrestlemania .... the music, confetti, lights, and hogan even ended up with a giant flag to wave around in the ring. Total nostalgia, total love in that MSG crowd 🫡🇺🇲
I’m not sure the gimmick lasts for years but I definitely am curious how this would’ve resolved. A guess I have is eventually Mr America would be in a match against Mr McMahon to reinstate Hogan. Win or lose that would end the whole thing as he would reveal the identity.
Maybe it's because it was just recently covered in Reliving the War, but this reminds me of the Blue Blazer, just playing up the obvious secret identity more.
Mr. America dominated our schoolyard discussions back in the days when they aired the episodes here in Finland. It was so funny and memorable storyline! We relived it over and over, watching the episodes from VHS tapes i had recorded and laughed at the lie-detector test skit. Those were the days, man.
It's the type of humor perfect for RTruth. He could have been a fan of Mr. America who claimed watching him in Mexico. It's a shame Truth was in TNA winning world titles
I really, really, REALLY liked Mr. America as a kid. I was convinced that wasn't Hulk Hogan yet I couldn't explain why it wasn't Hulk Hogan too. It was the dumb part of wrestling that I love and that lie detector stuff was SO good!
WWE went about this storyline all wrong. Vince should have been the only one who didn’t know/believe Mr. America was Hogan. Like everyone would try to convince him while he doubled down.
I saw some of Hogans tapes from Japan 🇯🇵 & I was shocked that he can really wrestle. I wonder why he never used those moves in The U.S ? Also I wonder why he never tried Shaving 🪒 his mustache or cutting his hair to try something new ?? .. it seems every wrestler 🤼♀️ has done this at some point to evolve.. I never thought I Would see Brock Lesser with a beard & ponytail…
In the 1980s, Hogan was so over that he didn't need to do much in the ring. Those crowds at the time would have cheered him if he had just posed in the ring. His and the WWF's thought was why put his body at risk doing that stuff when he could do very little in the ring and get away with it.
That's a double edged sword. Hogan being the cornerstone of the wrestling landscape we see today. On one hand wrestling nowadays sucks. On the other wrestling from 1996 to 2008 was cool minus Cena.
Im sorry but Vince McMahon was so incredibly entertaining. I couldnt stop laughing even with small clips of him in this video. Just makes me think back and remind me during that time and the attitude era how much i loved wrestling. I loved wrestling even in the golden era but this was on a whole new level of entertainment.
I actually really liked this goofy time tor hogan and piper it seemed like a cool feud if hogan didnt quit i think he could have went a year more with it and made some funny moments like that lie detector segment
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Vince saying he’s not a sick pervert and it coming back a lie is golden
That only further proves that Mr. America isn't the Hulkster
It also aged far too well considering what’s happening now…
What’s really messed up is you know Vince wrote that dialogue himself as a wink,wink,nudge,nudge for all those who knew him.
Whoa wait! You have a disgruntled employee making a lot of accusations. Let's see what's true and what's BS.
Rayback was right!!
I never knew Hogan was Mr. America until this video. Mind blown.
I still dont believe it.
WHAT? I READ THE COMMENT BEFORE EWATCHING THE VIDEO, what a spoiler brother, i would nver have guessed
Same here. I'm shocked beyond belief right now
TBF, Mr America is not Hulk Hogan.
They are 2 different characters of Terry Bollea
Don't fall for the fake news. It was never proven that Hulk Hogan was Mr. America.
"I'm not Hulk Hogan, brother! I'm Mr America, dude!!"
That doesn't work for me, brother! We all know it's you Hulk Hogan, brother! Don't try to deny it, brother!
I’m not hulk hogan brother I’m Terry Bollea dude! 😂😂😂
FACTS! Mr. America was never proven to be Hulk Hogan
The lie detector also said same thing
I think it was lex Luger personally
Its never been proved that Mr. America was Hulk Hogan. The best theory is that Mr. America was a Japanese wrestler who went by "Hulk Machine" in the 1980s.
I remember Hulk Machine..
5/8/2003. Hulkster was in Florida being interviewed on TV. Mr. America was at a WWE show in Halifax, NS Canada.
NOT the same person.
@@Jim-TunerHulk Hogan had 36 hour days or something like that because of air travel. So it's possible. Lmao
Edit: he eventually says it in the video! Haha! I just remember Hulk said it when he was in Japan.
@@justin43098 Good Point. I'd forgotten about how Hulk Hogan worked 393 day years because of Air Travel to Japan.
What a legend.
Facts. It's already tomorrow for Hogan's yesterday and his next week starts when he lands again in Tokyo which is tomorrow, so yesterday in Florida and today in California.
Steiner must have been his travel agent with that maths!
Watching that Lie detector made me and my Dad Crack up, he watched WWF through the Golden era and he said it was the funniest thing hed seen in Wrestling
Even back then the lie detector knew Vince was a pervert
Exactly. This gives further confirmation that Mr. America was NOT Hulk Hogan!
Who isnt a pervert anyways ? 😂
@@amblueblue49596 I ain’t I know how to treat & respect a woman & if no is no then no & I respect it
I don't think it was ever a secret McMahon was a pervert. It just legally and culturally caught up with him in this more modern era that doesn't tolerate it as much. Even there, there's also been a shift on what perversions are tolerated, and I'll leave it at that, since YT can be very hawkish in protecting such things. But, you know, what are they going to do in another culture shift that no longer tolerates protecting these perversions either?
Lie detectors know all!😂
'This doesn't work for me brother!' Vinnie Macs theatrics in this rivalry were superb! The lie detector skit with Thunderlips was a joy! 😂
I did enjoy this is storyline back in the day
Wwe was so stacked in 2003. Insane how many top stars were gone within a year. And then some people blame solely Eddie on why the house shows weren’t drawing
He put a lot of that blame on himself which is why he begged Vince to drop it
The same thing happened a decade earlier. A stacked roster in 1992 and a mass exodus in 1993.
Some of em were done horribly
Like ddp.
You had booker T,the rock etc.
HHH is to blame
Basically Vince just re-packaged the Giant Machine gimmick, when André the Giant was “suspended“ and came back “disguised“ as the Giant Machine.
yes but the difference is that Andre the Giant played both characters whereas Mr America was played by two different wrestlers, or if you believe the rumours, played by THREE wrestlers on rotation to keep fans guessing
Isn’t it crazy that Hogan and Piper were back at center stage in 2003?! At that time, late 40s-early 50s felt so old, but now a lot of top stars are in that range!
They also were in the spotlight for 30 years too. Most of the current guys started late or were in the indies for a while. Like AJ Styles still feels young even though he's going on 47
I remember Hogan's Mr. America gimmick. It was like something from create a wrestler mode.
Mr America and Hulk should have teamed with Dusty Rhodes and the Midnight Rider against Mick Foley, Mankind, Cactus Jack and Dude Love at Survivor Series.
they should also travel though time to face cody rhodes, undashing cody, stardust, and the american nightmare
Or Terry Funk and Chainsaw Charlie
Throw in Papa Shanga, Kama Mustafa and The God Father
Dusty Dust , Gold Dust , the Natural team up with X Pac , Syxx , Diesel, Oz and Vinnie Vegas for the WCW TV title
The Hulk v Vince streetfight was amazing at WM19. Watched it so many times, especially Vince coming up from the apron lookinh hilariously demonic with a led pipe
The look Vince gives hulk when Vince gets the metal pipe
Only Terry would think that Mr. America killed his 2002 comeback, when it arguably injected almost as much life into his career as the nWo did
He didn't read the room too well on that, I remember hogan being super over during that time.
If Vince had let Mr America hold the world title Terry would be telling everyone how revolutionary the gimmick was
Yeah im surprised that he thought this gimmick was for real and going to last years
@anthonyterry8162 we really don't know how Vince sold the gimmick initially to him. Vince can sell you the world while pulling the rug not long afterwards, which is probably what happened here.
Injected as much life into his career as the nWo??? Can I have some of whatever it is you're smoking, brother? 😅
That was such a great gimmick, I was sad to see it end.
Mate i know this is random but i recently discovered your channel over a no mercy review, which made me buy an n64 and the game and watch 100s of your videos. Thanks for everything you do mate. Subbed 4 life....
Fantastic pick-up! Hope you're enjoying No Mercy!
Did you actually find the old console and game. That's amazing! I have all the old N64 WCW games on my N64 Emulator. I'm just adding 'No Mercy' to the games folder now. I hope it's as good as the WCW Vs NWO game. I still play that one all the time.
@Yogsoggeth as a game, it's better by design as it's a sequel.
Vince was one of the best things. Usually a boss shoving himself into angles sucks the momentum out of anything it touches (The Authority), but Vince had the charisma and conviction in his delivery, that it worked. He also didn't mind selling and making himself look goofy to further an angle. Whatever he's done IRL, there's no denying on TV he was absolute gold.
Yeah, who knew he cared so much. 🙄
Not to mention the bumps he took over the years when he became Mr. MacMahon. Not many promoters could possibly claim that they'd take such risks to further angles and make others look good when smacking down the boss, but Vinnie Mac definitely made that work too.
I couldn't agree more, Vince knew how to sell an act despite being a perpetual heel. If the audience was entertained at his expense then he knew he could turn them into paying audience. The Authority couldn't (and wouldn't) do such a thing.
@@chaosgreybloodVinnie Mac gave it as good as he got, especially in the latter part of the Monday Night Wars where WWF/WWE had a real chance of going under courtesy of WCW.
The greatest heel of all time. No question.
I liked the gimmick at the time. I remember being disappointed when it was abruptly ended. I agree with Hogan, it could have went on for longer and I can see his point about jobbing out at MSG.
I saw Mr. America's run on a channel that runs Pro Wrestling old shows on Twitch and the whole chat kept "who is this guy? It's cool that Hogan let him use his Real American theme" and things like that. That was a great moment
Lol I know exactly what you mean. We all pretended like it wasn’t him, too.
What channel is it, if you remember? I’d like to check it out
@@lavenderw.2762 Look for "shallwepurge"
@@WyattHolliday
...Pretended?.....
What you mean brother?
@@rafaelmauricio8000 Well, Mr. McMahon somewhat had us convinced until Mr. America took the polygraph, thereby concluding that he was in fact not the Hulkster.
Funny thing is I think Hogan pulled the mask up at every show after they went off the air. I was at the Greensboro Coliseum show, and after he got hit in the back with the chair by Piper he later got back in the ring, gave VInce the bird ashe pulled up his mask, and hyped the crowd in his hulkster way. I think the pulling the mask up in NY was just the easy story end for Vince.
This has to be some sort of Mandela affect. There's no way Mr America was hulk hogan
It's a shame after the Mr. America storyline, we didn't see Doink Hogan.
Also, this just made me remember back in the 80s, Hulk Hogan wore a mask as part of The Machines stable w/ Lou Albano as manager.
Doink Hogan was in WCW. He was named the Bootyman brother
Wish we could have seen Glacier Hogan
I wanted to see Sunny Days Hogan
I wanted to see Communist Hogan with Mr Fuji
@timrobinson6573 we had sponge days brother 🤢
Seeing as today is the 40th Anniversary of Hulk-A-Mania being born in WWF (now WWE),this was the perfect time to upload the this video. Good job!
Thinking back, it would have been even more hilarious if Hogan had come out to "American Made" while portraying Mr. America, instead of "Real American".
American Made is better too, just like most things from WCW.
Definitely agree on this
Good idea
They didn’t own it. I’m pretty sure jimmy hart did and I don’t think jimmy and Vince would do any business till years later.
HULK HOGAN WAS MR.AMERICA?!! I could've sworn it was Rey Mysterio.
I just asked my 60 year old mum that knows nothing about wrestling. "Why did Hulk Hogan quit the WWF?"
She said "because he got old!?"
Not quite mum. "I said have you ever Heard of Mr America?"
She blanked me and left the room.
That just doesn't work for her, brother.
Your mother isn't a real American like you, just remember that
She wasn’t a HulkAmaniac brother
I know people didn't like it, but I thought the Mr. America gimmick was fun, I dont think it would lasted years, but I think it could last a year or 2. Its kinda like the Ezekiel/Kevin Owen storyline that they kinda ended too soon (IMO) it was very entertaining seeing Vince go crazy (kinda like how KO was going crazy). I was watching Smackdown weekly to see all the crazy things Vince was going to do to prove it wasn't Hogan, and then out of no where it just ended.
I thought it was hilarious. The hair and mustache popping out of the mask, the speech pattern, the shirt-ripping...it was over-the-top and corny in a way that only WWE could pull off. And it all built up to the street fight between Vince and Hogan, which was a great match for what it’s worth.
A year or two?
Nah, it was a solid run, but there's only a month or two of shelf-life there, tops.
It would have lasted a couple months it’s was silly and cringeworthy.
I remember being VERY entertained by this whole angle. It was almost as if Hogan was poking fun at himself, and McMahon wasn't laughing because he was the one who pushed all the over-the-top stuff back in the day. I'm a Hulkamaniac for life. Flaws and all. I also liked how it set up Stephanie as a bit of a babyface considering her history with her Dad and his *ahem* side women. I did hate Sable getting involved out of nowhere and poor Zach being jobbed out at every opportunity. All in all, I was sad to see the angle end so abruptly and wish it had lasted longer! Otherwise, classic WWE antics all the way!
Today is January 23, 2024. - 40 Years Of Hulkamania!
As a kid at the time this whole story aired. I was laughing and loving it because of the legend status of Hogan and Piper appearing on tv. I was always a fan of goofy skits too. So it was enjoyable for me. I still laugh at it too. Specially the lie detector test 😂😂😂😂
I loved this storyline when it was playing out. The Mr. America gimmick was hilarious. Hogan played it to perfection so I was sad to hear this was his reason for quitting. I was just really hyped to see Hogan, Piper and McMahon doing crazy stuff every week.
I feel like this was around when I stopped watching wrestling. I started working the nights it came on so I never got to watch anymore. I never knew how this storyline ended. Thank you!
11:35 - Failed to mention the best part when Piper original started pulling on Zach Gowen's real leg
This might be my favorite time of Hulk. The Mr. America stuff was just so funny.
Sadly shortlived
@@TheRealAhoyjust like all great things in America
great video as always - I would love to see you review No Holds Barred on time.
The bloody evil face of Mr McMahon at wrestleMania 19 was awesome 👊
Well... that sick pervert line did not age well
For Hulk and Vince
Its the literal definition of "aging" well my dude.
This is one of my favorite Hogan eras, largely because his “that doesn’t work for me brother” infinite life glitches weren’t as powerful.
They treated him as any other (still a lister) and had him lose more than he ever had in the previous 20 years. He hated it SO MUCH.
It was also something NEW with hogan, something he only briefly did once from 96-99 outside of 1983.
I noticed that even in his match with Kurt angle, hogan actually reached the ropes so technically, Angle should’ve let Hogan go…lmao, the Hulkster thought of everything
I don't think he hated it, he knew his place by then and was fine with it as long as it got him his paydays and he was putting over people who he was fine with. He put over Lesnar better than anyone.
Yeah it's good when the biggest star ever is just another guy. I bet you're one of those geniuses that thought Austin shaking Vince's hand was good.
@@RG-lr4pkalways love a good nuclear level hot take.
I’m saying it was good he was treated as just another “a lister”, like The Rock, and stone Cold, and Kurt Angle, and Lesner, and whoever else was big in the company at the time. He was still booked astronomically strong, he just wasn’t allowed to kill 18 months of storytelling because he didn’t want to lose a match because Vince would never put up with that like Eric Bischoff would
@@jbanks979 Kurt told a few stories of Hogan playing games, like no selling when he was supposed to get knocked off the ring apron. Another time, Vince actually told Kurt to get in Hogans face because he knew that despite any objections Hogan may have about something, Hogan wasn’t going to try anything with a shooter like Angle
Hulk Hogan should have realized that his best days are behind him, the fact he didn't like that he was booked to lose, proves that he is in business for himself.
Would you have wanted Hogan to have been floundering around like Drew McIntyre is rn? I understand Hogan wasn't peak Hogan, but to think WWE didn't poorly use talents at any time is false. Hogan saw what appeared to be that writing on the wall and he was probably right. I don't really blame him for calling an audible and leaving instead of basically going through what Drew and others have gone through.
@@walker1984 you bring a good point, however his popularity, can generate a lot of money for himself and the WWE. So what if he was booked to lose, him just being on TV could give him a huge pay check.
2003 I was 14 years old, I still remember Mr. America
Hogan clearly didn't like the way WWE was focusing on building up Brock Lesnar at the time. And Hogan didn't like losing in such a way in that match. Hogan took off his mask on his own and probably didn't even plan to do so at the start of the day. Hogan always took wrestling and winning personally - even bring The Ultimate Warrior to WCW, just so Hogan could get a win over The Ultimate Warrior and even the score. Hogan even had it in his contract that he could never lose in a clean loss. Hogan's contract made it clear the only way he could lose is if there was outside interference of some kind. I suspect Mr. America was something Vince wanted to go with for quite a while. The proof of this is the action figures that were released. But Hogan then forced Vince to kill off the Mr. America character by taking his mask off.
This was one of my favorite hilarious style storylines yet I never realized exactly how it ended and I wish it could've lived on tyvm 4 these videos
I loved this storyline back in the day, mostly because it was ridiculously amusing. It was like the Midnight Rider, but with no pretense whatsoever.
Crazy! I loved this whole thing. It was ridiculously good. When Smackdown came to Halifax, NS, Canada, it was one of the greatest live shows 😂
You uploaded this on the 40th anniversary of Hogan’s 1st WWE title win.
That was a super influential moment for Mr. America!
I forgot how entertaining this whole thing was. Thanks for the great work as always
How can one man send TWO bouquets of flowers?!?!?! That's Impossible!
I seem to remember when Andre and Hogan returned from Japan in the mid-80's, they too adapted a masked gimmick. They joined the legendary "Machines" team as "Hulk Machine" and "Giant Machine" (forgive me if I screw up details, I'm writing this from memory). And I seem to remember that the whole storyline was that the heels feuding with the machines were convinced this was Hulk and Andre but they continued to deny it. This seems like a big callback, or at least an homage to that storyline, which I have no doubt, Vince was also involved in, at least creating it.
The original storyline just involved Andre as Giant Machine and Ax From Demolition as Super Machine. The Machines was designed to give Andre time off to film the movie the Princess Bride. So they had about five or six other guys put on masks including Hogan and become machines for a night and be the partner of the Super Machine.
I wasn’t following wwe closely during this time so glad to see a video done on this. Thanks
As someone who is also subbed to Linus Tech Tips, I laughed so hard when you introduced Zach Gowan as Linus 😂😂😂
I loved his Mr. America run. It was a fun gimmick with lots of rememberable moments. Vince McMahon failing his own lie detector was so funny to watch.
I actually really like Mr. America. Don't think it would've lasted much longer but if they just had a big payoff match at one of the big 4 PPVs and then put Hogan back in the Red & Yellow then all would've been fine.
Yeah I feel like Vince should have pulled the Trigger on a Triple threat at summerslam with Terry Boulder vs Hulk Hogan vs Super Destroyer and Mr America. Vince failed by not booking this I think even he knows that
@@lennythegumpsummers8889 With special guest referee Terry Golden.
what does Mr. America have to do with Hulk Hogan? WB draws some interesting connections in his videos but this one seems like a stretch....
I agree.
Huge stretch..
I notice the one cop laughing when Vince took Zak cain away.
The only successful thing about this run was they brought the "Real American" theme back.
Real American is obliviously the 🐐 Hogan theme. But American Made is a damn close second. Of course Voodoo Child rules too Brother.
This was a great video..Thankyou
Thoughts on Netflix gaining RAW rights?
I thought you were trolling on your comment, but I just looked it up and I cannot believe Netflix is going to be showing RAW starting next year. And it's odd too since Netflix International gets everything, but Netflix US only seems to be getting raw.
Great move IMO. A lot of questions regarding the old WWE Network library (outside of US), but definitely an exciting business move.
@@WrestlingBios Shame its 5-10 years late for us in UK
@@techno56k Not just RAW but PPVs too. Its hard for me to get excited as its not 1998 anymore though.
Mr. America is not Hulk Hogan. He looked up to Hogan as a kid, and he trained, took his vitamins and said his prayers just like his childhood hero did. And he ended up looking a lot like him. 😆
I hope he's doing well nowadays. 😆
I do love the Mr. America gimmick and I kinda wish that he just hang on a little bit longer.
Man, Stepanie definitely looked her best in back 2003.
that time alteration traveling bit, was a good bit. xD
That doesn't work for me, brother.
I was at that MSG show when Mr America finally unmasked and it was literally like the end of any classic 1980s wrestlemania .... the music, confetti, lights, and hogan even ended up with a giant flag to wave around in the ring. Total nostalgia, total love in that MSG crowd 🫡🇺🇲
I’m not sure the gimmick lasts for years but I definitely am curious how this would’ve resolved. A guess I have is eventually Mr America would be in a match against Mr McMahon to reinstate Hogan. Win or lose that would end the whole thing as he would reveal the identity.
Maybe it's because it was just recently covered in Reliving the War, but this reminds me of the Blue Blazer, just playing up the obvious secret identity more.
It's funny I was just watching Mr America Hulk Hogan videos.
Mr. America dominated our schoolyard discussions back in the days when they aired the episodes here in Finland. It was so funny and memorable storyline! We relived it over and over, watching the episodes from VHS tapes i had recorded and laughed at the lie-detector test skit. Those were the days, man.
Steph always looked better than Sable.
Thank you for making this video even though it didn't win your poll. I voted for this one and you certainly did not disappoint. 👍
12:18 Linus Tech Tips😂😂
I absolutely love Mr. America. Never heard of this Hulk hogan guy though.
Was so sad this ended so quickly, it was so stupid, I loved it.
I don't ever want to hear the words "Vince McMahon" and "Pool of feces" in the same sentence ever again.
It's the type of humor perfect for RTruth. He could have been a fan of Mr. America who claimed watching him in Mexico. It's a shame Truth was in TNA winning world titles
never heard of this Hull Cogan guy but Mr America was the biggest name in the WWE.
I just watched Mr. America’s debut about an hour ago. Now that this video is up is insane lol
The lie detector reminds me of the best ever lie detector skit, by The Simpsons on Moe the bartender.
I loved this Hogan gimmick!!!!
15:34 technically Mr America is not Hulk Hogan he's Terry Bollea
My favorite Hogan victory was his win over Gawker.
Boo
I really, really, REALLY liked Mr. America as a kid. I was convinced that wasn't Hulk Hogan yet I couldn't explain why it wasn't Hulk Hogan too. It was the dumb part of wrestling that I love and that lie detector stuff was SO good!
This is still one of my all time favorite storylines/gimmicks.
WWE went about this storyline all wrong. Vince should have been the only one who didn’t know/believe Mr. America was Hogan. Like everyone would try to convince him while he doubled down.
In hindsight, the lie detector was definitely right about Vince...
That sick pervert question @ 16:09 hits different now 😂
honestly this storyline was one i thought was super fun back in the day
Same
thank you for making these videos 🙏🏼
I saw some of Hogans tapes from Japan 🇯🇵 & I was shocked that he can really wrestle. I wonder why he never used those moves in The U.S ? Also I wonder why he never tried Shaving 🪒 his mustache or cutting his hair to try something new ?? .. it seems every wrestler 🤼♀️ has done this at some point to evolve.. I never thought I Would see Brock Lesser with a beard & ponytail…
When a enter the mainstream company like WWE they shorten the moveset
In the 1980s, Hogan was so over that he didn't need to do much in the ring. Those crowds at the time would have cheered him if he had just posed in the ring. His and the WWF's thought was why put his body at risk doing that stuff when he could do very little in the ring and get away with it.
@@Jim-Tuner he actually had a moveset in Japan
He shaved his moustache before in wcw
as a 7 year old kid during this time, it was amazing. i barely knew who hogan was at the time but this whole story was so much fun
It's one thing for Hogan to quit. But for Mr America to quit too... that just stinks.
I was there live for the Mr. America debut. It was in Manchester NH. And the place went crazy to see Piper, McMahon & Hogan in the same ring.
That's a double edged sword. Hogan being the cornerstone of the wrestling landscape we see today. On one hand wrestling nowadays sucks. On the other wrestling from 1996 to 2008 was cool minus Cena.
I'd love to see you cover the Wee-LC match. It was an underrated match
Im sorry but Vince McMahon was so incredibly entertaining. I couldnt stop laughing even with small clips of him in this video. Just makes me think back and remind me during that time and the attitude era how much i loved wrestling. I loved wrestling even in the golden era but this was on a whole new level of entertainment.
I actually really liked this goofy time tor hogan and piper it seemed like a cool feud if hogan didnt quit i think he could have went a year more with it and made some funny moments like that lie detector segment
"the aura of Hulk Hogan has seriously diminished."
Not for me.
I can now say I’ve been on a Wrestle Bios video. I was actually at the event in Halifax. Cool experience.
Everyone knew it was abdullah the butcher under that mask
I just bought a Mr. America WWE Elite figure not too long ago