you can prove the 3 TPOW limit by using custom matches, when setting roles, you are only allowed to place up to 3 TPOWs, both in random and in direct roles
@hannabellexd If only 3 tpows exist, then you rolled a 1% chance, do this 3 times, the chances of only 3 tpow existing happening is (.0001%), or to put this in perspective, shuffle a deck of cards, now pull the top 2, chances of you pulling a king of hearts then a queen of hearts is 3 times more likely than getting this result.
@SeaIix because that would be a forced 4 t pow and the game reads that it needs 4, meaning it will go over the random limit If there is 3 maximum in a random list with a 66% chance to roll another 11 times, it gives a proof that the random number stops st 3
I find the fact 13 claimed jailor, real jailor died, 13 proceeded to not claim for the rest of the game and people still trusted them absolutely hilarious
Inexperienced yet also a metaslave, since they said the reason they shot the tav was 'because TS is a weak claim'. As if the fact that somebody's TS automatically means they're not town?
My very first game of ToS ever was in 1, and I rolled sheriff. N1 I found 6 sus. Declared it immediately at the start of D2. Nobody even acknowledged I said anything until D4, and 6 asked why I thought he was sus. Died that night.
@@bertberry2745 oh no, town aggressively hung townies two days in a row. They were out for blood, just not the blood I was offering. But yeah, I didn't understand how loud you have to be when you have information.
Kinda like the game where I as jailor said I was trans n1, everyone ignored me saying that and proceeded to lynch the trans that was exe's target. (This was coven ranked practice btw and it was crazy how coven ranked hardly ever worked.)
I got Vigi shot as trapper N2 the other day for being in a psy will and claiming TP. The person’s reasoning was, “TP claims are usually fake.” Vigis are getting crazy these days
I got Prosecuted a few months ago on VFA. I remember was very low on the list. I claimed TP, but Pros said "I have the feeling this is the fake one" Surprise, surprise, I was real, and got Town to a worse position because we already had 3 townies down...
Queue sometimes tends to be that cursed for sure. Guys like that Vigilante tend to be on my most frustrating games; be it town or not. So sad queue quality has declined this badly since release last year
In the first game a really funny play would have been to claim you visited 13, triggering the trap by accident. It wouldn't matter in this case but if he was townie it would make it much less likely shroud would try to just draw.
I had a game with another stupid town that made the mistake of not listening to the PM when they got prosed & lost a game they still had a chance of winning. D4; PM get's prosed. PM's last words "15 is arso, I revealed them. You need to hang them or you will lose". #3 responds "15 isn't arso, your lying". No one else get's hung that day N4/D5; Arso blows up #3 along with 2 other townies giving Coven maj. Coven killed the pros naturally. Dead PM laughs at the stupid townies for not listening to him. "Told ya #15 was arso #3. If town had only hung #15 town might have had a chance of winning but now Coven wins. Maybe next time when a PM who gets hung calls out a arso you'll take their last words seriously & hang the arso" Pipetron; What kinda exe claims TS & doesn't push anyone? Me; I don't always claim TS but I usually don't push anyone when I'm an exe cause every time I've tried I either get called fake for whatever reason & hung, rando shot by a dep or rando prosed/conj'd. I find I have a better chance of winning as exe if I leave it to chance but that is just me and my luck.
To the exe thing: if you want to leave it up to chance, I find that even then, it's usually better if you just open claim as exe at the point where you get pushed. People might probably up you and guilty anyway because people have faked exe before, but it does at least have a better chance of making you survive than not full claiming at all like in the video. You can probably give your target too if they ask for it, just in case the side who has majority decides to pity you.
When the game is so allergic to giving Jest win that no one chases a fake Jailor claim right after the real Jailor dies and treats them like they're still confirmed
@PipeTron I started playing Tos2 because of you. my 1st game ever, I died early on, a marshal came out and did not vote anyone for the entire tribunal. Then, day 3, he tribunaled again and no one got hung... Have you ever seen anything like this in all/any?
It used to be like that on ToS1 (the NK part) But since Apocalypse are a faction now, wouldn't be too farfetched; just how it works in BToS2. I would leave out the NKs out still though, but Apocalypse should be there for sure
@@FGenthusiast0052 honestly, i feel like baker should be the one apoc role found inno. it would be an indirect buff to the weakest apoc role in the game, and it makes sense thematically (baker has a plausible cover story, while the other three are more openly malevolent)
@@Underworlder5 in my own fanon baker lore, when asked to join the apocalypse gang she said "Sir. I am a baker. Making people starve is kind of the exact opposite of what I am supposed to do." She then proceeded to lose an eyeball
Heya pipe long time no see. Took a long break from ToS and didn't even notice that they killed traitors and released a V2 from the vid ya posted on this game i saw a lot has changed and our boi jugg got a faction with pb. My only question is how did vfr changed into vfa. Nice to see your channel grow. GL in the future of the channel.
Once as investigator, I kept checking the people who died that night, my will looked so suspicious, heh. Was a ranked game so I was like whatever, they'll never expect me to be real invest and so I just let the lynch happen. (Mind you this was before RUclipsrs made it a thing where TIs are expected to post publicly on the daily.)
i’m confused as a long time watcher. ur not enjoying sheriff bc of the book swap but u always say (and i agree) coven is under powered? am i missing a complexity here. or just like. talking about the role
Its because whoever has the book shows up as innocent to the sherriff. If the coven coordinates well enough they can pass the book to whoever is most likely to be checked.
that marshal went crazy with 4/4 correct lynches in that second game geez
The rare instance where a d2 tribunal turned out to be a W
The vigi who shot the tav in the second game is the same guy who shot the trapper in the first game, some trigger finger stuff
for real! where did that guy get a concealed carry license lol
Dude was scrolling vigi and going into games with the plan "Just blast away"
"So I started blasting..."
you can prove the 3 TPOW limit by using custom matches, when setting roles, you are only allowed to place up to 3 TPOWs, both in random and in direct roles
An easier way
Custom game
3 t pow
All but 1 random
1 coven
Restrict all town but seer
Chance of no more t pow out of 11 rolls is 2/3 ^11 is about 1.1%
@@deathblade32 and how is that easier 💀
@hannabellexd
If only 3 tpows exist, then you rolled a 1% chance, do this 3 times, the chances of only 3 tpow existing happening is (.0001%), or to put this in perspective, shuffle a deck of cards, now pull the top 2, chances of you pulling a king of hearts then a queen of hearts is 3 times more likely than getting this result.
@@deathblade32 again, how is this easier than just trying to select 4 tpows in the role list?
@SeaIix because that would be a forced 4 t pow and the game reads that it needs 4, meaning it will go over the random limit
If there is 3 maximum in a random list with a 66% chance to roll another 11 times, it gives a proof that the random number stops st 3
A spoiler attacked you but a *Crusader* protected you! 🛡️
Ok, that’s creative. 😂
A spoiler died last night.
They were killed by a Crusader.
We were unable to find a last will.
Their role was *Time Link* .
Thanks for trying even if it doesn’t work
Thanks crus
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That vigi thought he was in Town Traitor mode.
I find the fact 13 claimed jailor, real jailor died, 13 proceeded to not claim for the rest of the game and people still trusted them absolutely hilarious
Kaiserreich the Vigi shot twice, missed twice
He fired, and he hit something but it wasn't what he was aiming for, so I guess he missed.
Vigi second match screams of being inexperienced with just how they played.
vig was the same person both games:)
I would go berserk in a dead chat with that mf
Inexperienced yet also a metaslave, since they said the reason they shot the tav was 'because TS is a weak claim'. As if the fact that somebody's TS automatically means they're not town?
My very first game of ToS ever was in 1, and I rolled sheriff. N1 I found 6 sus. Declared it immediately at the start of D2. Nobody even acknowledged I said anything until D4, and 6 asked why I thought he was sus. Died that night.
No one ever acknowledges the n1 sus claim, thinking exe
Try being more aggressive next time maybe if towns passive
@@bertberry2745 oh no, town aggressively hung townies two days in a row. They were out for blood, just not the blood I was offering. But yeah, I didn't understand how loud you have to be when you have information.
Kinda like the game where I as jailor said I was trans n1, everyone ignored me saying that and proceeded to lynch the trans that was exe's target. (This was coven ranked practice btw and it was crazy how coven ranked hardly ever worked.)
I got Vigi shot as trapper N2 the other day for being in a psy will and claiming TP. The person’s reasoning was, “TP claims are usually fake.” Vigis are getting crazy these days
I got Prosecuted a few months ago on VFA. I remember was very low on the list. I claimed TP, but Pros said
"I have the feeling this is the fake one"
Surprise, surprise, I was real, and got Town to a worse position because we already had 3 townies down...
Limbus company, my beloved
Godspeed Manager Dante, godspeed
Manager Esquire! To where hath thou disappeared to?!?!
Man poured his soul onto his will at 17:28 and pipe just brushed it off without reading it 😂
Bruh the way that vigi killed townies two games in a row for no reason. So sad that these are the people that play this game
Same person, check the name.
And the fact he was trying to justify himself on the 2nd game
Queue sometimes tends to be that cursed for sure.
Guys like that Vigilante tend to be on my most frustrating games; be it town or not. So sad queue quality has declined this badly since release last year
In the first game a really funny play would have been to claim you visited 13, triggering the trap by accident. It wouldn't matter in this case but if he was townie it would make it much less likely shroud would try to just draw.
I'd have still gone for Pipe, it was the safer play, and i thought 13 was Vet (for some reason), so I wanted to shroud Pipe.
Holy crap first time in like two years that pipe got re-recommended to me for TOS content
This is why we sub!
This happened to my buddy Eric, I can confirm this is what happens when you sus people as the Sheriff.
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I had a game with another stupid town that made the mistake of not listening to the PM when they got prosed & lost a game they still had a chance of winning.
D4; PM get's prosed. PM's last words "15 is arso, I revealed them. You need to hang them or you will lose". #3 responds "15 isn't arso, your lying". No one else get's hung that day
N4/D5; Arso blows up #3 along with 2 other townies giving Coven maj. Coven killed the pros naturally. Dead PM laughs at the stupid townies for not listening to him.
"Told ya #15 was arso #3. If town had only hung #15 town might have had a chance of winning but now Coven wins. Maybe next time when a PM who gets hung calls out a arso you'll take their last words seriously & hang the arso"
Pipetron; What kinda exe claims TS & doesn't push anyone?
Me; I don't always claim TS but I usually don't push anyone when I'm an exe cause every time I've tried I either get called fake for whatever reason & hung, rando shot by a dep or rando prosed/conj'd. I find I have a better chance of winning as exe if I leave it to chance but that is just me and my luck.
To the exe thing: if you want to leave it up to chance, I find that even then, it's usually better if you just open claim as exe at the point where you get pushed. People might probably up you and guilty anyway because people have faked exe before, but it does at least have a better chance of making you survive than not full claiming at all like in the video. You can probably give your target too if they ask for it, just in case the side who has majority decides to pity you.
insane marsh play, he and mayor basically carried with seer's info
Danteh, what are you doing in Salem Dantehh?
We have dailies to grind Dantehhh
Thanks Pipton for finding people SUS as the SHERIFF
Better question is why was the trap on 13 who was outted fake when the jailor died
Didn't you know? In a deduction game were reading is a key component... People don't read? 😊
wow game 1 was so cool- IS THAT DANTE FROM LIMBUS COMPANY?
@@TheRoadHome PROJECT MOON SLEEPER AGENT
I had a similar situation where I was shot by a vigi N2 and there will said “Tarnation it we ball”
KaiserRong more like
When the game is so allergic to giving Jest win that no one chases a fake Jailor claim right after the real Jailor dies and treats them like they're still confirmed
Alrighty so we entered the game as a , we are number on the list. Let's get it, gaming boys
I scum read that Pipe is a sheriff
18:21 THE HEAVY IS DEAD!
@PipeTron I started playing Tos2 because of you. my 1st game ever, I died early on, a marshal came out and did not vote anyone for the entire tribunal. Then, day 3, he tribunaled again and no one got hung... Have you ever seen anything like this in all/any?
Kaiser was 1-2 as Vigi between both games.
if you didnt know you can click that red scroll in the bottom left of your notes to open notes for each player, helps with tracking claims
He knows it exists, it's just that he's used to writing it down like TOS 1 more
Sheriff could use a buff.
Can only find Coven or NEs.
Should be able to find Nks and maybe NAs on certain conditions ro make sheriff more useful
It used to be like that on ToS1 (the NK part)
But since Apocalypse are a faction now, wouldn't be too farfetched; just how it works in BToS2. I would leave out the NKs out still though, but Apocalypse should be there for sure
@@FGenthusiast0052 honestly, i feel like baker should be the one apoc role found inno. it would be an indirect buff to the weakest apoc role in the game, and it makes sense thematically (baker has a plausible cover story, while the other three are more openly malevolent)
@@Underworlder5 in my own fanon baker lore, when asked to join the apocalypse gang she said "Sir. I am a baker. Making people starve is kind of the exact opposite of what I am supposed to do."
She then proceeded to lose an eyeball
My favorite ts bodyguard
PROJECT MOON REFERENCE
HOI4 though :(
That vigi has to be trolling
Project Moon jumpscare
Manager Dante?!?!?!? Is that a Limbus Company reference???
xD I remember that combo the mayor had i did a similar move to a tracker
Really early on this one, enjoying the vids pipe, keep it up!
thank you so much for daily videos pipe 🙏
GG Great video as always :)
Danteh on town of salem is crazy
Love you pipe!
Heya pipe long time no see. Took a long break from ToS and didn't even notice that they killed traitors and released a V2 from the vid ya posted on this game i saw a lot has changed and our boi jugg got a faction with pb. My only question is how did vfr changed into vfa. Nice to see your channel grow. GL in the future of the channel.
i'm pretty sure i got in a match with you yesterday. i was #7 and shroud, you were #13 and illusionist
Shoulda visited Shroud first game probs, on the offchance they forget to direct attack.
I had a 4 trowel game a while ago
ti can be pretty fun tbh :3
Jester idea: Claim TI and just copy every day some other TI and try to play along:)
Once as investigator, I kept checking the people who died that night, my will looked so suspicious, heh. Was a ranked game so I was like whatever, they'll never expect me to be real invest and so I just let the lynch happen. (Mind you this was before RUclipsrs made it a thing where TIs are expected to post publicly on the daily.)
I LOVE YOU PIPTON
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I love sheriff
The Trapper here to save you from a time stamp spoiler 🛡️(also I’m going on Janedoe next)
Shame on that guy playing vigi, for throwing both games the same way back to back 🤯
Townies hate him. This vigi found one simple trick to make townies hate him. Find out how.
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I feel like the first game was lost due to a lot of dumb reasons from townies.
WAIT IM 6 IN THE FIRST GAME
Wait, if there is only a max of 3 tpows then how did I get a game of 4 tpows
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The vigi shots were really annoying. Do you plan to instead play pre-made maybe? It would definitely reduce that.
It was the same guy both times. The games were back to back and they're probably scrolling vigi for some reason
even though u died why would a tavrole block a seer??
Poisoner
@@adisca2k you'll be surprised how many times it's not even a Poisoner...
@@FGenthusiast0052 For those cases I have a different response that youtube may or may not allow, thankfully in this case it was just poisoner.
i’m confused as a long time watcher. ur not enjoying sheriff bc of the book swap but u always say (and i agree) coven is under powered? am i missing a complexity here. or just like. talking about the role
maybe u can enjoy both as a person. might be my bad sry
Its because whoever has the book shows up as innocent to the sherriff. If the coven coordinates well enough they can pass the book to whoever is most likely to be checked.
What was that jest lol
Trying to argue about a game mechanics when they caught lying is a massive cope.
Theres two men. Both claim to have the power of the lord himself...BEING FIRST.
Awesome
When the... Sus imposter.... Among us....
WHAT
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13 fake claims jailor as jester, double shroud wins.
Never been this early before
four minutes ago is arousing
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lately in your videos you seem angry and not having fun
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