How Christianity Changed History

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  • Опубликовано: 22 янв 2025

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  • @Ifraneljadida
    @Ifraneljadida Год назад +1017

    I grew up going to catholic schools. Stopped caring once I left for college. Few years later, just like Whatifalthist says here, I realized (from other smart people), that my world view and beliefs are just Christian beliefs AND living immorally had made my life just not a fun time.
    Decided I’d be a rebel and actually believe in something, started practicing again, decided I’d give living morally a shot and it actually works. That’s the thing about Western Christian beliefs - they can actually make your crappy life not a crappy life. You get a community from the church, better/higher quality life experience, I make my social circle/community/nation better by being a moral citizen and it’s cool that I share the exact same beliefs as my ancestors for like 2,000 years. There’s no real negative but you gotta go all in

    • @nothingelse1520
      @nothingelse1520 Год назад

      So you want to stone gays and transgender people to death now?

    • @danielutriabrooks477
      @danielutriabrooks477 Год назад +4

      ​@@nothingelse1520That's an optional career path, but, regardless, TTD and TGD forever

    • @DragonsAndDragons777
      @DragonsAndDragons777 Год назад +31

      Based

    • @tpsam
      @tpsam Год назад +2

      I had a very similar journey brother maybe a little bit more dramatic I don't know lol

    • @gusjeazer
      @gusjeazer Год назад +13

      Although I am not Catholic and have clear views on Mary, Pope and Saint worship, I must say that I love the Catholic channel Pax Tube as well. Similar vibe to Whatifalthist.

  • @jmanjman2685
    @jmanjman2685 Год назад +588

    I myself am Agnostic but the British historian Tom Holland made me realize how Christianity is such a huge part still of western countries. Even I who live in the Netherlands where most people don't really practice religion can see how much culture, ethics and such all passed down from Christianity in some way. I feel like many Atheists and other agnostics often don't wanna admit that this is still such a huge part of our culture in all sort of subtle ways we don't even think about.

    • @lesinge8868
      @lesinge8868 Год назад +65

      I wonder how Spider-Man finds the time to be a historian of such caliber.

    • @thedukeofchutney468
      @thedukeofchutney468 Год назад +30

      He can do whatever a spider can…. which in this case would be multitasking.

    • @hitandruncommentor
      @hitandruncommentor Год назад

      Or that many atheist beliefs only make sense from a Christian cultural stance.

    • @Confederate-hj2dc
      @Confederate-hj2dc Год назад +17

      I’m a Catholic and I praise your honesty. Honesty and Loyalty are two of my favorite virtues.

    • @bigtex4864
      @bigtex4864 Год назад +8

      Those are 2 different british guys named Tom Holland. Tom Holland the author is middle aged.

  • @austin1470
    @austin1470 Год назад +216

    Interesting that you mentioned how Christianity broke down clan and family structure. One of my favorite YT channels, Kraut, made a video about a year ago talking about this very thing. For those curious, it’s called “How Christianity destroyed the tribal family”

    • @John3.36
      @John3.36 Год назад +53

      Nuclear > Tribal

    • @catnappernellie1211
      @catnappernellie1211 Год назад +13

      Rare kraut W

    • @Daniel-yh9dz
      @Daniel-yh9dz Год назад +67

      The destruction of tribal family is of utmost importance.
      Because in a tribal family, the clan patriarch is basically treated as God. He is always right. All moral authority within the family come from him. And when a sinful man is worshipped as God, all sorts of horrible things happen.

    • @Ivan_1411
      @Ivan_1411 Год назад

      Tribalism is horrendous that's why Christianity tries to let people out of that negative way of thinking

    • @juniorjames7076
      @juniorjames7076 Год назад +24

      ​@Daniel-yh9dz It's doubly ironic because in post industrial capitalist society, multinational corporations hate the small nuclear family unit- families save and invest money. But single adults, especially women, spend money and go into debt buying- clothes, tech, drugs, cosmetic surgery, leasing cars, trips to resorts, casinos, cruises, etc. Capitalism wants us single and lonely! More profits.

  • @hismajesty6272
    @hismajesty6272 Год назад +1437

    As a Christian, I think it’s high time that we bring back the fun stuff. The feast days, the celebrations of the saints, demonology and angelic studies, the rest of the Seven Sacraments (not just an “symbolic” Eucharist and “symbolic” baptism), the Sign of the Cross, teaching about the heresies and councils that corrected them, stained glass windows, icons, church beauty, monks, nuns, fasting, not shying away from science (because you actually CAN reconcile faith and science), organized church charity, formalized theology, TRADITIONAL HYMNS, and dives into the deep history of the early church. I’m tired of a stale, anti intellectual, and judgmental Evangelical church that’s barely holding on. I want a fun, community building, intellectually thrilling, and Godly Christian church. Hopefully we can move towards this, and reform again.

    • @zephaniahdejene1746
      @zephaniahdejene1746 Год назад +97

      these still exist in ethiopia come give us a visit youll love the way we celebrate our holydays

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja Год назад +51

      Sure and while we're at it, let's force everyone to learn Latin again to read the Bible.

    • @krunkle5136
      @krunkle5136 Год назад +57

      I like the beautiful churches, dress, community outreach, traditional music.
      Much better than snake handling or the speaking in tongues and contemporary worship music bullshit.
      I've been to so many popup churches as a kid and it left an impression that I'm still trying to extract from my skull.

    • @_Dovar_
      @_Dovar_ Год назад +170

      In other words - return to Traditional Catholicism?

    • @tylermurnaghan
      @tylermurnaghan Год назад

      Join the Orthodox Church.
      ruclips.net/user/shorts7ghvjFJcDbA?si=K9WyQ620Mc49HuDw

  • @kevincronk7981
    @kevincronk7981 Год назад +136

    You said every christian area that wasn't Indo-European was conquered by the Muslims, that isn't entirely true, the 1 and only exception to that is Ethiopia which fought off muslims and even the Ottomans up until they eventually re-establish contact with the rest of Christianity when Portugal discovered them and started helping them fight off the Ottomans as fellow Christians. However I suppose your point still stands, the Ethiopian Empire was a warrior state which held out against any and all threats, there's a reason they were the only African country to never be colonized (no, part of the country being occupied during part of ww2 is not colonization, that's like saying that Germany colonized France or Norway, or more accurately it's like saying Germany colonized the USSR).

    • @popgabriel5327
      @popgabriel5327 Год назад +11

      Yep, fair points.

    • @juniorjames7076
      @juniorjames7076 Год назад +9

      ​​​@@popgabriel5327Ethiopians also boast that unlike other parts of Africa, major industries/factories are not owned by Indian, Lebannese or Syrian Arab Christians and Muslims like Senegal, Nigeria, Mali, Uganda etc. Post colonization, French and British banks gave loans only to expat Arabs & Indians in Africa to buy factories formerly owned by them.

    • @tobiasgriffin
      @tobiasgriffin 10 месяцев назад

      South sudan eritrean congo indian part of the middle east the problem is that most christian from west only care about western history

    • @feliciaf8
      @feliciaf8 5 месяцев назад +6

      this! and also the eastern christian still has its' identity intact even if they got overrun by the muslims

  • @freeze32007
    @freeze32007 Год назад +273

    As a Christian I appreciate this video. The criticisms were honest and on point. This was amazing work. Thank you for this.

    • @user-bv8fr4to8k
      @user-bv8fr4to8k Год назад +4

      I was pleasantly suprised. I had gone off WhatAltHist a bit and then he encapsulated a lot of my thoughts about Christianity in one video.
      We have shirked being brothers in Christ for rampant individualism and we are all the worse for it.

    • @jls5480
      @jls5480 Год назад +1

      Our world if full of poison (medi culture govt) but we don’t name names?

    • @ethank.3201
      @ethank.3201 5 месяцев назад

      @@user-bv8fr4to8kIndividualism and thus rampant individualism is what you get when you push raw Christianity to its conclusion

    • @HereTakeAFlower
      @HereTakeAFlower 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@jls5480 because it's our own names, and we ourselves fall short of the virtue we recognize. Christians were able to make great things through humility.

    • @JUNKYJESUS89
      @JUNKYJESUS89 2 месяца назад +1

      Cell phones become an exact And unveiled window Into the erie remains of all our Souls
      Truly your's, junky JESUS
      You
      Are
      All
      Loved

  • @ryanrobbins2363
    @ryanrobbins2363 Год назад +1103

    as an atheist I have to agree. Most people in the west hold Christian philosphy as the basis of the moral and philosophical beliefs.

    • @ImTitan16
      @ImTitan16 Год назад +97

      Whats funny is that most people dont resize how big the effect of chrisntainty is. Proving how big it is.

    • @ryanrobbins2363
      @ryanrobbins2363 Год назад +53

      @@ImTitan16 it's largely what's shaped out penchant for individuality and anti authoritarianism.

    • @Spotlightmoonlight
      @Spotlightmoonlight Год назад +20

      Bro I just watched batman the dark night, that movie was lit 🦇

    • @KevinJohnson-cv2no
      @KevinJohnson-cv2no Год назад +37

      And that's the problem. Christianity's insistence on passivity, meekness, & self-sacrifice has done nothing but water the world down. I'm atheist as well, but the Pagan mythologies at least had strength & vitality to them. What do we have now? A peasant-god, strung up on a cross. Trying to convince us to not live our lives to the fullest, to not take what we want & do what we desire. The logic of the weak.

    • @ryanrobbins2363
      @ryanrobbins2363 Год назад +79

      @@KevinJohnson-cv2no allowing the common man to have a say is what led to the Renaissance, enlightenment, and our current post scarcity economy in which the average "peasant" has more control and power than most European kings and nobility lol. Without these ideas 90 percent of people would still be subsistence farmers with a life expectancy of 30.

  • @AGamerthatregretsalot
    @AGamerthatregretsalot Год назад +798

    As a christian and history nerd, this channel really brings both things I enjoy into two is truly a absolute win

    • @DragonsAndDragons777
      @DragonsAndDragons777 Год назад +6

      Same ^ ͜ ^

    • @BajaKS98
      @BajaKS98 Год назад +3

      Same here ;)

    • @josephbeyerlein1381
      @josephbeyerlein1381 Год назад +2

      This comment needs more love, and I really agree

    • @marierejoiceinjesus3846
      @marierejoiceinjesus3846 Год назад +10

      You need to see the video “Zeitgeist Debunked: Jesus Is Not A Copy Of Pagan Gods” because so many claims this guys makes on Christianity are so wrong. I don't know everything, but it's depressing to see his constant disinfo and false predictions.

    • @Sebman1113
      @Sebman1113 Год назад +2

      Same. I’m a history nerd who attends a Lutheran church every Sunday.

  • @The2012west
    @The2012west Год назад +418

    As a Christian, this video was way better than I expected. Also, that “masculine” portion of Christianity that is often missed is simply the Old Testament. So often ignored ,but so fundamentally vital.

    • @iartol
      @iartol Год назад +4

      Yes

    • @TravisJones812
      @TravisJones812 Год назад +32

      One of the ways in which the Orthodox Church fundamentally differs from Protestantism is that Orthodox Christians see the OT as a context and frame of reference for understanding the Gospel. Then they go on to focus on the lives of saints, which provides a level of localization. While this prevents a lot of confusion, Orthodoxy lacked the scholarship that came to lend weight to Catholicism with saints like Thomas Aquinas, who was really one of the heavyweights of Western thought. Orthodoxy is a lot more like those ancient mysteries, having lacked that interplay between the laity and text of the Bible which set Europe on fire in the 17th century and led to things like the introduction of Jesuit scholarship. In Western Christendom, the clergy set out to substantiate their world view on an intellectual and logical level, which backfired after Origin of Species.

    • @iartol
      @iartol Год назад +6

      @@TravisJones812 awesome comment

    • @bradyjeez
      @bradyjeez Год назад +18

      No, lol. There may be muscular rhetoric in the Old Testament, but in the European context it is purely Germanic warrior culture. When the western Roman Empire fell, the church in Rome had no choice but to cooperate with and employ the Lombards, Ostrogoths, Visigoths, and then send haphazard missions to the Franks and Saxons. They told these people that Jesus was an immortal conqueror of death. The tribes own incentive for converting was that they believed it would lead to stability. Even still, the first 500 years of European Christendom is full of Germanic warriors kinslaying their family, and having concubines. The Christianity of Chesterton or Tolkien took centuries to develop. Chivalry itself is also a sanitized Germanic warrior ethic. Read “The Germanization of Medieval Christianity” by James Russell

    • @iartol
      @iartol Год назад +2

      @@bradyjeez interesting

  • @colltonrighem
    @colltonrighem Год назад +298

    Whatifalthist double upload is definitely making my hospital stay more bearable… cheers Rudyard

    • @MightGuy15
      @MightGuy15 Год назад +25

      Hope you get well soon

    • @oakson3045
      @oakson3045 Год назад +7

      Get well soon man!

    • @Askonfraser
      @Askonfraser Год назад +3

      Hope you get well

    • @sasham6124
      @sasham6124 Год назад

      Сподіваюсь тобі стане краще, друже

    • @TheHamburgler123
      @TheHamburgler123 Год назад

      Hope you're doing okay, man.

  • @dy031101
    @dy031101 Год назад +423

    I as an observer from outside of both Christianity and Western culture have always been telling people that while Christianity might not have invented morality, they are essentially the first in the West to write it down for your easy reference.

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Год назад

      Morality was mostly always based on individual excellence/achievement before Christianity. Nothing flipped the script like with Christ when he said even great men are evil sinners in the eyes of God.
      The original Hebrews knew this too but Jesus took it much further saying things like even looking at another mans wife in a sexual way is committing adultery in your heart.
      The idea of mental cleanliness and that even dwelling on evil thoughts is evil was foreign to almost every other belief system

    • @1mol831
      @1mol831 Год назад +6

      Observer 😂

    • @dy031101
      @dy031101 Год назад +34

      @@1mol831 I'm neither a Christian/Catholic nor a native Westerner. I think that makes me an observer.

    • @StoneCBears
      @StoneCBears Год назад

      Christians seem more like they're willing to give chances for outsiders to trade or join their communities. Thus, outsiders bring in information and skills from foreign lands at the time. Information and skills like engineering, philosophy, maths, and natural theories that are precursor to science. Mend all that knowledge into their politics and science in the late 16th century and onwards.

    • @ossiedunstan4419
      @ossiedunstan4419 Год назад

      Please link the moral parts of the bible , Or even the koran and torah, Their is nothing moral about any of them or within in them.
      Australian Aboriginal's of which i am one have had over 65,000 years of civilisation and culture and women had rights right up until 1788 when white British christian landed , Found out women have equal rights and started slaughtering whole communities of my people because god does not allow women equal standing in christian governed societies.

  • @bigrob9044
    @bigrob9044 Год назад +67

    I think another aspect that is overlooked is the role women had as martyrs in the Roman Empire. I remember letters written from fathers to daughters who refused to renounce their faith. If you know anything about Roman fathers you know how big this is.

    • @friedrichk.5609
      @friedrichk.5609 Год назад +8

      thanks for sharing that. Extremly brave by those women...

  • @standardgigachad3297
    @standardgigachad3297 Год назад +301

    As a Catholic, I'm glad I found this channel. Well done, friend.

    • @truecatholic1
      @truecatholic1 Год назад

      You are almost certainly not a Catholic, and this video is heretical. The idea that Jesus Christ had a mentor is a heresy.

    • @LiamLoves
      @LiamLoves Год назад +4

      Catholic gang rise up!

    • @redwolf915
      @redwolf915 Год назад

      @@LiamLoves atheism is truth. Religion is lies

    • @TrixRN
      @TrixRN Год назад +2

      @@LiamLoves Here! 🙋‍♀️

    • @TrixRN
      @TrixRN Год назад

      Excellent channel!

  • @DragonsAndDragons777
    @DragonsAndDragons777 Год назад +2148

    As a Christian I see this as an absolute win

    • @MegrelMamba
      @MegrelMamba Год назад +126

      Now let's see if we can preserve this system ☦️

    • @user58553
      @user58553 Год назад +122

      Deus Vult

    • @Humble-one
      @Humble-one Год назад +41

      ​@@MegrelMambanow lets see what you do to preserve that System and If you really follow our lord and saviour, Almighty Jesus Christ. Or if you are just another random negative npc.

    • @DragonsAndDragons777
      @DragonsAndDragons777 Год назад +18

      @@Humble-one amen to that!

    • @MegrelMamba
      @MegrelMamba Год назад +40

      @ananasnotpineappel9538 I literally said let's preserve Christianity. What are you guys on?
      The christian system...

  • @reshpeck
    @reshpeck Год назад +132

    As a person who is scrolling through the comments, I estimate at least three dozen of them all began with "As a _______", and at least another dozen making the some form of the statement, "I consider this a win," which, as a person commenting, I would consider a win.

    • @sedm8290
      @sedm8290 10 месяцев назад +5

      W

    • @aelinsardothien8926
      @aelinsardothien8926 7 месяцев назад +1

      so meta

    • @AravisX
      @AravisX 6 месяцев назад

      I’m more interested in the psychedelics that he was talking about. Seeing God might be entertaining

  • @thorpeaaron1110
    @thorpeaaron1110 Год назад +143

    As an Agnostic Athiest I must admit we have a Christian worldview.

    • @eoris12
      @eoris12 Год назад +6

      Study the enlightenment. And history for a closer approximation.

    • @RealLifeIronMan
      @RealLifeIronMan Год назад +28

      I am an atheist as well, but even I will admit that the Christian framework of morals is the foundation of most every thing we in the west think of as moral goods.
      The concept of mercy and having empathy for ones enemies is concept mostly found in societies founded on Christianity or Buddhism.

    • @1mol831
      @1mol831 Год назад

      @@RealLifeIronManmaybe the two are related

    • @PhilosophersLegacy83
      @PhilosophersLegacy83 Год назад +3

      Yeah and its terrible. 😅 even Jedi religion makes more sense then magic man in sky🤣

    • @Web720
      @Web720 Год назад +18

      ​@@PhilosophersLegacy83
      *Tips Fedora*

  • @ptptpt123
    @ptptpt123 Год назад +101

    As soon as I saw the title, I knew you must've come across Tom Holland's Dominion. He has many great talks on his book subject too. Very illuminating.

    • @pitedapollo6175
      @pitedapollo6175 Год назад +7

      Spider man:home worship

    • @BarrettCharlebois
      @BarrettCharlebois Год назад +8

      It’s not the spider man actor like the video states, it’s some old dude

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Год назад +13

      @@BarrettCharlebois I took it as a joke but maybe he really thinks they're the same lol

    • @BarrettCharlebois
      @BarrettCharlebois Год назад

      @@off6848 it definitely could be humour, I’ll give you that

  • @LambFaucet
    @LambFaucet Год назад +100

    Slight correction for 24:37
    Constantine did not technically declare Christianity to be the official religion of the Roman empire. He was the first emperor to become involved in doctrinal disputes, he and his co-emperor issued the Edict of Milan which decriminalized Christianity throughout the empire and he was the first emperor to publicly say that he was a Christian. He retroactively attributed his success in the civil wars of the tetrarchy to the Christian god but it's a matter of speculation how sincere his beliefs were. A few decades after the death of Constantine, the Edict of Thessalonica issued by the emperor Theodosius declared Nicene Christianity to be the states religion. This is a mistake I've made in the past due to how much of an impact Constantine had on the development of Christianity but it's more complicated than him simply making the empire Christian.

    • @patrickjanecke5894
      @patrickjanecke5894 Год назад +15

      Also, as a side note, the Empire favored the Arian over the Nicene Christians initially.

    • @joecurran2811
      @joecurran2811 Год назад +3

      This is a basic mistake I'm surprised he made it.

    • @patrickjanecke5894
      @patrickjanecke5894 Год назад +3

      @joecurran2811 There's a lot of misinformation, disinformation, and outright propaganda on the matter. Some of it is quite old itself.

    • @joecurran2811
      @joecurran2811 Год назад

      @@patrickjanecke5894 I agree but this is something you can see on Wikipedia. I don't like to criticise RUclipsrs but I thought that was poor.

    • @feliciaf8
      @feliciaf8 5 месяцев назад

      yep i was kinda irked by this, i thought this is a common knowledge in christian history

  • @Brosowski
    @Brosowski Год назад +149

    Idk why people dig at Whatifalthist. Even if he isn't perfect, he always makes good content geared towards truth.

    • @Cabbage22927
      @Cabbage22927 Год назад

      He is merely a smol chud

    • @SpicyCheeseAltHistory
      @SpicyCheeseAltHistory Год назад +12

      No body’s perfect

    • @Glawackus-1600
      @Glawackus-1600 Год назад +29

      He is human, and like all humans, he has flaws. Only a fool believes himself to be perfect. You make a great point.

    • @HowlingMoai
      @HowlingMoai Год назад +28

      He’s entertaining for sure, but his interpretations aren’t exactly renowned for their accuracy. His lack of in-text citations is a big one and it is the primary reason that holds him back from genuine credibility.

    • @careyfreeman5056
      @careyfreeman5056 Год назад +8

      And he makes you think, which is a rarity these days.

  • @Mattical1980
    @Mattical1980 Год назад +208

    Obviously not to this depth, but this realization of the West being a "Christian Society" was the breaking point in me being an athiest back around 2015 or so. The further time has gone on since then, the more this holds true, and it explains a lot of what we are seeing in American society. Another fantastic video, as usual. You really are one of my favorite channels. Thanks for everything you do!

    • @imperatorscotorum6334
      @imperatorscotorum6334 Год назад +3

      I don’t see how that makes much sense. Either you were never an atheist or you are not a real Christian

    • @McCaroni_Sup
      @McCaroni_Sup Год назад +10

      ​@@imperatorscotorum6334 Personally, I respect Christianity a lot, but still elect to be Atheist. Mostly because as an individual, I prefer to find my morality within my own sense of ethics and empathy, rather than a standard set by the Bible. That said, the fact that I'm even able to do so is - no pun intended; a testament to the good Christianity has done.

    • @Mattical1980
      @Mattical1980 Год назад +11

      @@imperatorscotorum6334 Belief can't be forced. I have doubts that any religion is "the" right religion, but what we are seeing is a degradation of the Christian ethics that formed society. Above, when I used the athiest, I specifically meant the "New-Athiesm" of the '00s. An ideology (of which I didn't realize it was at the time) which spent over a decade post 9-11 poking holes in religions. When New-Athiesm attempted to convince people that "The West" wasn't built on Christian ethics was the point I started to doubt that Athism was just pointing out truths and maybe becoming an ideology of it's own. So, I don't consider myself Christian, but I do recognize that the ethics this country was founded on are, and the further we get away from that the further the country gets away from it's intended purpose.

    • @nanashi7779
      @nanashi7779 Год назад +1

      ​@@Mattical1980 do you not wonder how it was that these corrosive ideologies came to be in the first place? Or question that perhaps, the very Christian ethics you're talking about are what facilitated their development? There's a reason the destructive concept of secular liberalism never naturally arose in the Islamic world, for example

    • @PoppinPsinceAD33
      @PoppinPsinceAD33 Год назад +7

      Christianity is so woven into our culture and really made the greatness of what we are, and yet it’s being turned on. Funny

  • @patrickconnolly8616
    @patrickconnolly8616 Год назад +230

    I'm Catholic and I get frustrated with some of the way the Church is going. The Church is trying to conform itself to the modern world in the worst way possible. Rather than try to accommodate people who probably won't step foot in a Church no matter how open and inviting it is, we should double down on what principles make us different and unique. As a young man who is doing his best to get involved in the Church with my wife, I've found that there is a distinct Catholic culture that me and my friends share, it's crazy just how different my wedding was to those of my Protestant friends. There are lots of Athiests out there who want a community and culture, and quite frankly, instead of trying to appeal to gay people or the woke left, we should appeal to the average disgruntled youth who has no sense of belonging. The hardest part will be getting them outside. I put myself in this category as a young person but young people today are normally pretty lazy and aren't involved in anything. We don't go outside and pretty much need to be forced to socialize in person, but when we do, we normally have a lot of fun. Idk what the Church can do to really get these kids out and off their phones but that is what I think will be the key not only to a reguvinized Church, but also a reguvinized Catholic culture and a happier populace that uses Church as a social outlet like their grandparents did. I see this in many of the reformed Church's too, my best friend is Presbyterian and his Church is going through pretty much the same issues we are but worse, stay strong friends, Christianity has seen far worse times. There was a time we were fed to Lions but we came out on top. The Muslims almost conquered Europe several times but we stopped them, as explained in the video, our culture ushered in, what's arguably the best civilization on Earth. The boomers dropped the ball but we can still step up and reguvinize our faith and usher in a new golden age, it's been done before under harsher circumstances. God Bless.

    • @sharkinator7819
      @sharkinator7819 Год назад +24

      As a fellow Catholic and history nerd, I’m not too worried. I figured we can just wait until the next Pope, as stuff like this is nothing new

    • @darrylbonner7208
      @darrylbonner7208 Год назад +21

      As a 19 year old, I’m glad I’m not the only young guy trying to look for saneness in a insane world.

    • @TheSteveprojects
      @TheSteveprojects Год назад +10

      As a once/month goer to church (work on some weekends, and honestly don't feel like it on others), what exactly do you mean by Catholic culture? All I have seen is people going to mass, and get the hell out every Sunday. Some ethnic churches definitely have some more culture such as a few feast days, but the standard Catholic church across the street has very little culture except the mass--at least if you are a 20-30 something year old dude. There's not even any socialization--people just go, pray the mass, and get out without even saying hello to their fellow parishioners.

    • @Paradox1012
      @Paradox1012 Год назад

      Not related to belief systems. But the disgruntled youth are distracted, no time to think because you must go, the soceity built up today by billionaires feeds this. I believe that defining your soul in an astetic sense and within a set of rules is what it all boils down to, and that's what many religions do. I don't even think it needs to be anything specifically religious, they just need something that gives them faith in themselves and thier inner world, and thus all other things. It is a matter of the paracosm decaying.

    • @deadboy4991
      @deadboy4991 Год назад +4

      look into Orthodoxy ☦️

  • @Atabanza
    @Atabanza Год назад +145

    -Being a Christian is not being alone, whatever the loneliness may be that surrounds us

    • @joshuawadsworth6417
      @joshuawadsworth6417 Год назад

      Impossible for mortals.

    • @buwanbuwaya6927
      @buwanbuwaya6927 Год назад +2

      I guess that's what faith does to us, we put our, illogical emotions and place our belief in higher powers & maybe even ourselves to bare with living in a 'weird world'.

    • @Johnny-sz3zm
      @Johnny-sz3zm Год назад +14

      This. Individualism, which is one of the basis for much of West's success, is possible only in a Christian society because a Christian is never alone. He always has Jesus with him whom he communicates to. But in an individualistic society, if a person doesn't have Jesus, he is utterly alone, and that can lead to nihilism and suicides. This is one of the reason for nihilism and suicides in the West as they forsook Christianity.

    • @stephenconroy5908
      @stephenconroy5908 Год назад +1

      This is going on the wall of my classroom for any students needing a quick yet meaningful answer to "Why believe in God".

    • @marcin_kalbarczyk
      @marcin_kalbarczyk 3 месяца назад

      you speak through the lens of the internet era

  • @Thedogeofveniceron
    @Thedogeofveniceron Год назад +185

    I am 12 and seeing people my age talk about totally degenerate things like porn really saddens me and many of them claim to be Christian while talking about porn and sex constantly

    • @theredknight9314
      @theredknight9314 Год назад +72

      Dont fall in with them. Its a vice. I know. I struggle with it

    • @MaximusAugustusOrthodox
      @MaximusAugustusOrthodox Год назад +34

      They aren’t. Or maybe you just have to make them clear that this is sinful and bad. And that should return to Christ and repent.

    • @ryanward10
      @ryanward10 Год назад +45

      Be careful on here, not everyone who is kind is your friend, and not everyone who is mean is your enemy. Trust in God & the good ones in your family.

    • @theredknight9314
      @theredknight9314 Год назад +2

      @@MaximusAugustusOrthodox sorry. Didnt mean to comment that other comment

    • @shelbyspeaks3287
      @shelbyspeaks3287 Год назад +6

      Thank protestant ethics for moral relativism

  • @Nitro_Joe
    @Nitro_Joe Год назад +40

    I got “Dominion” earlier this year. It’s a game-changer! I’m 50, and I’ve been involved with political Christianity for 30 years. Read it, listen to it, learn from its history.

    • @redwolf915
      @redwolf915 Год назад +2

      No suchthing as gods

    • @Th3BigBoy
      @Th3BigBoy 4 месяца назад

      ​@@redwolf915But aliens and extra dimensional entities are real. Retard.

    • @bryantstudentd3831
      @bryantstudentd3831 3 месяца назад

      ​@@redwolf915Creation needs a Creator

    • @ethancollins4593
      @ethancollins4593 2 месяца назад

      You should try the card game, it's fantastic

  • @jerrycoomberry2541
    @jerrycoomberry2541 Год назад +25

    The last thing Christianity needs is another reformation to conform to modernism. The very reason Christianity is declining in the first place is because it's constantly chasing modernity and changing its moral structure as a result.
    There are already so many churches today that don't even resemble Christianity and simply preach progressive propaganda.
    If anything, Christianity should be providing people an escape from modernity and fostering a connection to our past. If that were to happen I expect the churches in the West to start filling up again.

    • @SeanWinters
      @SeanWinters Месяц назад

      2 things:
      1. Christianity is only declining because of a. Too few fathers, b. People are becoming more honest, and those who don't truly believe aren't pretending anymore
      2. The churches that are dying off are ONLY the liberal ones. Conservative churches, especially non denominational churches, are growing rapidly.
      That being said, the next step is "soft ecumenism". Almost all protestants should be able to worship together, all Christians have the ability to worship with one another.
      It's funny how the Ortho bros act as if they're having some great resurgence, but the only growing group is conservative nondenoms.

  • @platypus1216
    @platypus1216 Год назад +97

    Man, I’ve been binging your videos for years. I love it when you release multiple videos at once, so much new content🎉

  • @johnrockyryan
    @johnrockyryan Год назад +85

    The fact that a son of a mere carpenter changed the morals of the entire world is pretty amazing he changed the world in a way Kings or Emperors could even dream of, in a time of violence and greed here comes a dude who said give to the poor treat people the same way you would want to be treated he shook the system that gainned off of the pain and suffering of the misfortunate absolute hero

    • @GangstaViolin
      @GangstaViolin Год назад

      Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
      -We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
      -There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
      -Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
      -The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
      -Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
      -Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
      -Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
      -Interestingly enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
      -Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
      -“Communism was an atheist ideology which killed millions. Therefore, atheism is bad”. That’s as ridiculous as saying “black people like Oj Simpson we’re murderers, therefore, all black people are murderers.
      -Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
      -Church helped the poor against nobility???? It was exactly the opposite!!! Church has remained in power so long by using extreme corruption with the nobility as ally!!! It is perfectly explained in Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism”, and it’s outrageous that these books aren’t mentioned in this video.

    • @TCM1231
      @TCM1231 Год назад

      What do you believe? I believe in Truth, objective Truth, Love, God.
      Is it wrong to murder someone? Why? Because society tells you so? Because that would increase the average suffering? Why does any of that matter, the sun is going to explode! The Black holes will pitter out! Why dont you just do whatever you want? Wear comfy shoes! Have a coffee break! Hug your mom! Waste your life on video games! Watch movies till you drop! Rob a store! Force yourself on an unwilling participant! Go on a rampage! Take a permanent trip to the grave yard! Be a racist! Do whatever you want! There is no God, no rules, so it's all just subjective! Have Fun! or not....
      That is if you have no life in you.
      John 6:53
      Jesus the Christ, Crucified, Died and Buried, Risen on the third day in accordance with the scriptures, attested to even unto death by His Apostles, and millions more, started a Church, Matthew 16:18, will return in Glory to Judge the Living and the Dead, and His Kingdom will have no end.
      Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
      Ad Jesum Per Mariam
      Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!

    • @Ariannaishun
      @Ariannaishun Год назад

      It was changed by violence....PERIOD.

    • @dansw0rkshop
      @dansw0rkshop Год назад +8

      Exactly and our year is benchmarked upon His birthday, 2023 years ago. (okay okey give or take the 4 or so years of disagreement, but it was Jesus' birth, not someone else's)

    • @christopherlees1134
      @christopherlees1134 Год назад +14

      But no one would have paid any attention to his teachings had he not been raised from the dead. After that happened, people became very interested in what he had to say! Otherwise, no one would care what a dead guy who thought he was God said.

  • @MalachiCo0
    @MalachiCo0 Год назад +35

    15:59 Christmas isn't Mithra's birthday, that's a myth Zeitgeist made up. Mithras doesn't have a birthday. The commonly understood origin is that it's a Christianization of Saturnalia, but even that's easily subject to scrutiny given there's not actually any records of Saturnalia being celebrated on December 25 after the Republic's end.

    • @RealLifeIronMan
      @RealLifeIronMan Год назад +1

      Isn't December 25th the winter soltice? That day was a special time for many pre-christianized Germanic tribes. The mass of Christ as the Roman catholics call it was put that week in order to absorb pagans into Christianity.

    • @Nasaj_Tengras
      @Nasaj_Tengras Год назад +8

      @@RealLifeIronManNo, it’s December 21st. Also, we only see the December 25 date attributed to Mithra and Sol Invictus after Christianity started- so it’s more likely that they borrowed the date from early Christians. The reason Christians celebrate the birth of Christ on the 25 is because they believed a perfect person would die the same day they were conceived. December 25 - 9 months gets late March or Easter.

    • @MalachiCo0
      @MalachiCo0 Год назад +3

      ​@@RealLifeIronMan The Christians that would have invented Christmas didn't have much contact with Germanic tribes. In fact, December 25 was floated as a possible dob for Jesus as early as the 200s. This conclusion was based on some very faulty logic, which asserts that Jewish people are conceived on the same day as their day of death and because they thought His death was on March 25 that must mean his birth was on December 25. None of this really disproves that the date was finally settled upon due to pagan influence, but the evidence is not as clear cut as we've (including myself) been led to believe. The only thing that's conclusive is any pagan influence outside of Roman belief.

    • @MalachiCo0
      @MalachiCo0 Год назад

      @@Nasaj_Tengras to be fair December 25th was the winter solstice at the time

    • @Nasaj_Tengras
      @Nasaj_Tengras Год назад

      @@MalachiCo0 I don't even think that's true. It takes place from the 20th-22nd. If you have a source that states unequivocally that the solstice took place on December 25th from 33 to 500 AD I'll believe you.

  • @SayNoToDemocide1
    @SayNoToDemocide1 Год назад +162

    I'm an Atheist, and Whatifalthist has by far done a better job at challenging me and bringing me closer to Christianity than all others combined.
    He isn't one of those "Christian Nationalists" or "Based Trad Caths" who identifies as a Christian because he wants to be a contrarian to the left (which I've made videos about). With the Christian right, I feel like I'm listening to a bully beating his chest who wants to throw me on the ground and stomp on me because I disagree with them (over theology, not merely values).
    Rudyard is different. He tells me how Christianity has benefited the world. In my opinion, that's the right way to promote Christianity, not political contrarianism.
    It also helps that he's a calm, humble person. And we're both classical liberals/libertarians, we we have virtually the same values.
    Edit: I'd love to see Whatifalthist debate with Styxhexenhammer666 & Darkmatter2525 on Christianity.

    • @SayNoToDemocide1
      @SayNoToDemocide1 Год назад +17

      I've made a playlist called "Videos by Whatifalthist and other Christians that challenged my worldview" and added this video to the top.
      Adding to what I've said in my original comment, Christian Right wingers talk at me like I'm the enemy if I don't agree with them. And most of their arguments are little more than contrarianism to the left.
      That's so off-putting and alienating.
      WIAH talks to me about how Christianity is beneficial to the world. He also talks to me like a person and respects me as one, and doesn't beat his chest like he has rhoid rage or a gorilla.
      Big. Difference.

    • @conductingintomfoolery9163
      @conductingintomfoolery9163 Год назад

      Ryan Dawsan?

    • @SayNoToDemocide1
      @SayNoToDemocide1 Год назад

      @@conductingintomfoolery9163 No, but a supporter. Though I do disagree with him on Russia and Putin, but I otherwise love him.

    • @phoenixjones7191
      @phoenixjones7191 Год назад +13

      @@SayNoToDemocide1 God commands us to not judge others or even ourselves because he wrote the law and he alone is the judge. Any person claiming to be Christian and bullying you for doubting is sinning, falling short of God's expectations, missing the mark. Doubt is normal.
      also democide is wack

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Год назад

      @@SayNoToDemocide1 Thats because in the west masculinity has a pagan bent its all about being tough and getting ho's but for Jesus being tough would be like St. John getting crucified upside down and beheaded for his faith

  • @Christisking1911
    @Christisking1911 Год назад +6

    The Bible saved my life by pulling me from 15 year opiate addiction. Needless to say becoming an Orthodox Christian was the best decision I have ever made.

  • @hitandruncommentor
    @hitandruncommentor Год назад +64

    One of the most confounding thing about arguing with people about Christianity is they argue for christian even while they argue against it. They're argument is that Christianity isn't pure enough and they don't even realize it.

    • @SeanWinters
      @SeanWinters Год назад +25

      My favorite is "someone did something bad, therefore God not real". 90% of my argument against atheists end with this statement. People said God's Not Dead's antagonist was cheesy, but it's ridiculously true to life.

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Год назад

      @@SeanWinters Atheist aren't actually as bad as pagans in reality most of them have Christian morals Pagans on the other hand tend to worship power and ancestors which makes them isolated from other pagan groups hence why they always got their asses kicked

    • @hebercluff1665
      @hebercluff1665 Год назад +5

      Christianity is an ideal - not a description of worldly reality. An ideal like that is impossible for a human to reach.

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Год назад +6

      @@hebercluff1665 It doesn't work even as an ideal without a worldly reality
      As CS Lewis said Jesus was either a Liar, Madman or Messiah those are your only options.

    • @hebercluff1665
      @hebercluff1665 Год назад +12

      @@off6848 I guess I wasn't specific enough with my comment, because I do agree with what you said. So, I'll explain my first comment in a little more detail.
      The message on Christianity and the model of behavior it demands from us is contrary to human nature.
      Examples:
      - Christian ideals say that we should forgive our enemies. Human nature says that we should destroy our enemies (to create less risk for ourselves and lessen the competition for resources).
      - It's male nature to impregnate as many women as we possibly can (a result of evolutionary selection), and it's female nature to get impregnated by the strongest & smartest man they can find (to give her children more desirable genes) as well as the wealthiest & highest status man they can find (to give her and her children more resources and protection to survive) - all a result of evolutionary selection. However, Christian ideals demand that we only have 1 wife and that they must be faithful to each other. This completely destroys the harem structure that comes so naturally to humans.
      3) To Christians, Christ is the son of God, and he is a perfect being who is without sin. He's also always talking about how "his kingdom is not of this world".
      4) The night before Christ was killed, the washed his disciples' feet and taught them that the greatest in the kingdom of God is to be a servant, and that the meek and the humble will inherit the kingdom of God. The logic of the world says that the powerful, intelligent, and charismatic shall inherit the world - "the right of conquest", if you will.
      ______
      The message of Christianity has always been that we are worldly, carnal, sinful animals that should aspire to enter the kingdom of God - a place that is unlike the world around us in every way.
      By all means, we are expected to be like God. However, the logic of the world demands that we act selfishly.
      I said that Christianity is an ideal detached from the world because to be a Christian is to abandon the world's logic for something better. It's to act in a way that's contrary to your nature as a human.
      I said that the complete Christian ideal is impossible to reach because we still live in a world that demands ugly behavior from us. If we were to act just like Christ, we'd all be crucified by the angry mob (or some other untimely end.)
      Thus, the most you can realistically expect from any Christian is for them to try their best to live up to a higher standard, only for them to often fail. (That's why it's integral to Christian belief that God expects everything from us, yet he's willing to forgive us when we ultimately disappoint him.)

  • @bitcoinzoomer9994
    @bitcoinzoomer9994 Год назад +160

    As a non-christian I see this as an absolute win

    • @cold_lunch2
      @cold_lunch2 Год назад +11

      Me too and me too

    • @zwilder1
      @zwilder1 Год назад

      Muslim?

    • @PhilosophersLegacy83
      @PhilosophersLegacy83 Год назад +9

      Down with religion and mind control.

    • @1mol831
      @1mol831 Год назад +28

      @@PhilosophersLegacy83the ethics is part of it though

    • @cold_lunch2
      @cold_lunch2 Год назад +24

      @philosopherslegacy1983 The morals and values of true Christianity are important for our society to thrive, and come back out of this hole of woke ideological state.

  • @damiancayer2003
    @damiancayer2003 Год назад +52

    From GK Chesterton’s “Orthodoxy”, the last paragraph in the chapter “The paradoxes of Christianity”. (One of my favourite books. This paragraph is a bit long for this setting but paints a poignant picture and ends in a flourish)
    “This is the thrilling romance of Orthodoxy. People have fallen into a foolish habit of speaking of orthodoxy as something heavy, humdrum, and safe. There never was anything so perilous or so exciting as orthodoxy. It was sanity: and to be sane is more dramatic than to be mad. It was the equilibrium of a man behind madly rushing horses, seeming to stoop this way and to sway that, yet in every attitude having the grace of statuary and the accuracy of arithmetic. The Church in its early days went fierce and fast with any warhorse; yet it is utterly unhistoric to say that she merely went mad along one idea, like a vulgar fanaticism. She swerved to left and right, so exactly as to avoid enormous obstacles. She left on one hand the huge bulk of Arianism, buttressed by all the worldly powers to make Christianity too worldly. The next instant she was swerving to avoid an orientalism, which would have made it too unworldly. The orthodox Church never took the tame course or accepted the conventions; the orthodox Church was never respectable. It would have been easier to have accepted the earthly power of the Arians. It would have been easy, in the Calvinistic seventeenth century, to fall into the bottomless pit of predestination. It is easy to be a madman: it is easy to be a heretic. It is always easy to let the age have its head; the difficult thing is to keep one's own. It is always easy to be a modernist; as it is easy to be a snob. To have fallen into any of those open traps of error and exaggeration which fashion after fashion and sect after sect set along the historic path of Christendom--that would indeed have been simple. It is always simple to fall; there are an infinity of angles at which one falls, only one at which one stands. To have fallen into any one of the fads from Gnosticism to Christian Science would indeed have been obvious and tame. But to have avoided them all has been one whirling adventure; and in my vision the heavenly chariot flies thundering through the ages, the dull heresies sprawling and prostrate, the wild truth reeling but erect.”

    • @auraguard0212
      @auraguard0212 Год назад

      Eastern Orthodox? Or Western/Catholic?

    • @TrixRN
      @TrixRN Год назад +1

      @@auraguard0212 I believe G. K. Chesterton became Catholic. I don’t remember if Orthodoxy was written before or after his conversion.

    • @CatholicChats
      @CatholicChats Год назад +3

      @@TrixRNcorrect Catholic. He wrote the book detailing his reasons for converting

    • @AJ_Sparten1337
      @AJ_Sparten1337 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@CatholicChatsA bad decision to follow a singular man at the top of everything if you ask me. Much easier for Satan to corrupt one man than a group of them.

  • @verisimlitudesque
    @verisimlitudesque Год назад +37

    You should read: The Lost World of the Israelite Conquest: Covenant, Retribution, and the Fate of the Canaanites. One interesting point he brings out in there is how the ancient Israelites only required men to be circumsized. Most other cultures required both men and women.

    • @allmightlionthunder5515
      @allmightlionthunder5515 Год назад

      So where dose it say the Israelites were circumcised that was a Jew or Jewish custom
      and it comes from captivity and war not religious really some woman order something to bring back foreskin weird right and how the custom started lool

  • @aj9969
    @aj9969 Год назад +63

    The strange thing is, christianity managed to recreate its efficient, cohesive structure even in non European societies.. India had a small number of Syrian Christians in the southern state of Kerala, since 50 AD.. these legacy christians are the richest and the most educated community in the state to this day.. They are also far more disciplined and cohesive, compared to the Hindus they live amongst..

    • @Revivalism23
      @Revivalism23 Год назад +7

      Most Christians in India from North to South perform very nicely in socio-economic indicators

    • @toledochristianmatthew9919
      @toledochristianmatthew9919 Год назад

      In places like China, they were instrumental into making reforms during the past centuries. Sun Yat Sen, the father of modern China was a protestant Christian as well asuch of the elites thatade reforms in China.

    • @aj9969
      @aj9969 Год назад +14

      @@Revivalism23 not always though.. Christians with European ancestry (Anglo Indians, and some Catholic Luso Indians) don't do so well in India.. They used to be well regarded in the past, and used to occupy pivotal positions in Indian society... But their culture has decayed after they began blindly mimicking their western counterparts, with alcoholism and sexual indiscipline running rampant..
      Indian Syrian christians are of a different stock, and they tend to look down on these tendencies, which has probably helped them to stay afloat.

    • @gonzly
      @gonzly Год назад

      Hello, just a question, this youtuber has put so many books as sources in his bibliography, do you really believe he read them all?

    • @mohammadali59080
      @mohammadali59080 Год назад +6

      Oh, don't forget it's because the majority in India is hindu due to which you can coexist. Look at the original Syrian Christians condition and think.

  • @heidehho6191
    @heidehho6191 Год назад +42

    Oddly enough, as a Christian, your criticisms of the religion are the most vital points that need to be heard! They are on the mark on what we need to work on. I absolutely loved the history aspect and the positives as well. Thank you for an informative and honest take ❤🙏 very well done ! God bless you!

    • @GangstaViolin
      @GangstaViolin Год назад

      Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
      -We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
      -There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
      -Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
      -The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
      -Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
      -Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
      -Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
      -Interestfully enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
      -Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
      -Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
      On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.

  • @purpledurple621
    @purpledurple621 Год назад +31

    Im surprised he never talked about Christianity created secularism since it was very prominent in Dominion

    • @WhatifAltHist
      @WhatifAltHist  Год назад +23

      Fuck..shoulda put that in there. Well, the video's already an hour

    • @user-jy5qm8nc9m
      @user-jy5qm8nc9m Год назад +3

      @@WhatifAltHist Hi ! Since you didn't talk about the Reformation, will you make a video about it ?

    • @micahhenley589
      @micahhenley589 Год назад +4

      The Roman Empire's strangest colony was *Ancient Israel.* The God of Israel was completely unique and unchanging. While all the idols of the Roman Empire were constantly shifting, morphing, and changing into something else, the God of Israel was the same yesterday, today, and forever. In Malachi 3:6 He said "I am the LORD, and I do not change."
      Historians have shown us that getting drunk was very popular and encouraged in the ancient world. In fact, drunkenness was often times a way to connect with the divine. But notice how Yahweh is completely different and separate from everything else. In Ephesians 5:18 he said "And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery." God always commanded clear minds and to be sober.
      Lastly, the greatest Man who ever lived was born in the Roman Empire. That man was Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Unlike us, Jesus is completely perfect and without sin. He never had one millisecond of a lazy attitude or a sinful lust. As 1 Peter 2:22 says "He committed no sin and no deceit was found in His mouth." Jesus was crucified by the Jews and Romans but then He rose from the dead, 3 days later, thus defeating death and proving He is the truth!
      "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. But whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them." John 3:36

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Год назад +4

      It absolutely did. Thats why Jesus never sought to be crowned king in Israel or taught to create a theocracy. The early Platonic Monists used to refer to Christianity as "secularized metaphysics".

  • @ikenosis8160
    @ikenosis8160 Год назад +79

    "A fish in a pond cannot judge its place in the world."
    -Rudyard 2023
    I've used that axiom in philosophical conversations for years.
    "Like a fish in a pond."
    Great work as always.
    Liked and shared.
    Godspeed.
    🙏🏼🌟

    • @GangstaViolin
      @GangstaViolin Год назад

      Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
      -We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
      -There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
      -Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
      -The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
      -Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
      -Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
      -Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
      -Interestfully enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
      -Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
      -Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
      On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.

    • @DeadpoolX9
      @DeadpoolX9 10 месяцев назад

      We call it “a frog in a well” in the East

  • @mattsterh7740
    @mattsterh7740 Год назад +16

    As for the science, its usually framed as opposed to Christianity when in reality its the opposite. I remember i asked my mormon classmate in 7th grade if he believed in science and he gave the same explanation. It made a lot of sense.

    • @PoppinPsinceAD33
      @PoppinPsinceAD33 Год назад

      Mormons aren’t Christian, though you can put them under “Christianity” they aren’t saved according to traditional Christianity. They follow Joseph smith, often like how Muslims follow Muhammad

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 Год назад +27

    Christ came into the world to save its peoples and transform it. He still continues to change, mold, and save the lives of those who follow him. Thank you for the interesting video exploring Christian influences on the world.
    God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)

    • @GangstaViolin
      @GangstaViolin Год назад

      Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
      -We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
      -There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
      -Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
      -The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
      -Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
      -Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
      -Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
      -Interestingly enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
      -Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
      -“Communism was an atheist ideology which killed millions. Therefore, atheism is bad”. That’s as ridiculous as saying “black people like Oj Simpson we’re murderers, therefore, all black people are murderers.
      -Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
      On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.

  • @CatholicSamurai
    @CatholicSamurai Год назад +72

    Charles Taylor’s “A Secular Age”
    and Christopher Dawson’s two-volume series “The Formation/Dividing of Christendom” should be on everyone’s reading list!

    • @CatholicSamurai
      @CatholicSamurai Год назад +8

      Bonus: “How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization” by Thomas Woods is a great primer surveying the incredible contributions of the Church to the realms of Astronomy, Physics, Economics, Biology, Engineering and Industrialization, Human Rights, Fine Art and Music, Geopolitics, Mathematics, Philosophy, History and Literature and the Humanities, and more.

    • @davidadamovic1950
      @davidadamovic1950 Год назад +1

      Just picked up "A Secular Age"!

  • @jennapecor1865
    @jennapecor1865 Год назад +7

    I don’t say this lightly….this video is profoundly important and every single minister in the Christian faith needs to watch and respond accordingly

  • @neonsamurai4604
    @neonsamurai4604 Год назад +65

    Christianity has proven itself superior despite all it challenges. I’m a proud Jesus lover.

    • @ErebosRex
      @ErebosRex Год назад +11

      It’s really just us screwing it up.

    • @St0ckwell
      @St0ckwell Год назад

      Christcuckery is only "superior" to European culture if your main priority in life is to keep the Jews as powerful as possible.

    • @LiamLoves
      @LiamLoves Год назад +7

      I love Jesus too!

  • @red40...
    @red40... Год назад +26

    dang dude youve been grinding these hour long videos, good job. Dont burn yourself out.

  • @republicsentinel7196
    @republicsentinel7196 Год назад +12

    Everyone needs a foundation. I chose Christianity. I've been without it, and I floundered. Christianity is a solid foundation to build the rest of your life on due to its principles. At 50, I couldn't be happier with Christianity as my cornerstone. It encourages individuality, it nutures truth, and accepts my very human flaws... and that's all in its doctrine! Christianity is the very epitome of freedom.

    • @tobiallen07
      @tobiallen07 6 месяцев назад

      Would you say know God personally or his your belief more just rules to live by?

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 Год назад +9

    After overcoming substance abuse i found that exploring the woods was natural therapy for me. There's something so therapeutic about hiking in the woods on a rainy cloudy day and stumbling upon lush moss patches, lichen, and mushrooms growing on the forests floor. At first the ground seems like an absurd mess of choas but the more you observe and explore, the more you start to see that things are sorta abstract perfect imperfections. Once you see that, you start to notice and observe that these aspects of nature exists all throughout different layers of nature. That even in messy, chaotic situations, nature finds ways to to adapt and find a sort of beneficial balance. Even tho the forest floor is filled with dead things, rocks, dirt, etc. Nature finds these unique ways to convert matter into this facinating system. A system that sorta reminds me of one of the laws of thermodynamics. Where matter cannot be created or destroyed, only converted. The more you observe nature, the more you can see it really functions in facinating ways. Not everything is all rose's. The natural world is undeniably harsh in ways but it's unrealistic to expect everything to only be amazing. After moments of sadness, where i hurt from losing my grandma.. i thought about: That even tho it's overwhelming in our current perspective. It's unrealistic for us to think we could understand or know all the answers about how the universe functions. Life and death. But, aspects of how nature functions, sorta translates to different aspects of different systems in the natural world around us. No matter how harsh life might seem, no matter how meaningless some of us might feel sometimes, regardless of that feeling, Nature still finds a way to convert and utilize things. As a thought experiment I like to ponder about black holes, or why death is so prevalent around us? It might seem pretty bleak but if you look at it with the right perspective it can be seen slightly different. Death, naturally will always be something we fear & are unsure about But what really gets me is that death is something EVERY ASPECT of nature experiences at some point or another. There's no way nature would have something that happens to everything be such a wasteful useless aspect of it's system.. Who knows, maybe black holes 🕳️ might be some kind of cosmic recycling machine and if it wasn't for black holes transfering matter, that maybe natural cycles wouldn't be able to function properly? Maybe death, isn't this meaningless awful thing? Maybe it's a aspect of a natural cycle that we just can't grasp from this current perspective. A part of me likes to imagine that the cosmos finds unique ways to convert energy. When we were born, that energy that created our soul had to have come from somewhere.. What I'm trying to convey with all of this is that it's freeing to stop "needing, demanding, requiring answers" about things that are not answerable. I stumbled upon this weird peace of mind from just observing nature and how it functions all through out our cosmos. I don't know any answers but i feel like i can at least give Nature a chance to take care of me. The same way it takes care of a fallen tree on the forest floor, or a dying star that feeds the birth of new solar systems, stars and planets. We are all tied into this unique system. i prefer perceiving my life through the eyes of natures facinating ways. Over any man made concept any day.

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Год назад +1

      Sometimes I create music in a DAW like Fruityloops and reverse the audio until it becomes a chaotic mess and I wonder if the chaos sounds in nature can be manipulated the other way around to create music.

    • @John3.36
      @John3.36 Год назад +2

      There is a really good book that I would recommend called 'One Heartbeat Away' by Mark Cahill. Worth a read.

  • @NewsRedial
    @NewsRedial Год назад +60

    Jesus was indeed at odds with his family during his ministry.
    Many of my fellow Christians like to overlook the scene where Jesus was in a house with many 'undesirables' and his mother said 'he is besides himself' (a phrase to mean 'possessed') and 'let us take charge of him' (meaning to establish a 'conservorship' over him in the same way Britney Spears Father did).

    • @KevvoLightswift
      @KevvoLightswift Год назад +4

      Which book was that? Don't recall that in the New Testament.

    • @normanclatcher
      @normanclatcher Год назад +18

      I love it when ~2,000 year old Greek texts reference Britney Spears.

    • @NewsRedial
      @NewsRedial Год назад

      They refer to human nature and that will play out forever into the future.@@normanclatcher

    • @PhilosophersLegacy83
      @PhilosophersLegacy83 Год назад +2

      Santa claus also had reindeer and elves. Lmao Simpletons

    • @NewsRedial
      @NewsRedial Год назад +5

      @@KevvoLightswift That's what I mean. There are many verses in the Bible that contradict the image of Jesus that Christianity has established. I know some Christians who have been reading the bible for decades and never heard of some new testament verses that I point out. I think their minds just blank it out as they read.
      Here's the verse I referenced:
      Pay close attention to the meaning of the phrase 'take charge of him'. Remember he was a 30 year old man and the eldest son, yet they didn't go to persuade him to not associate with those people, they even refused to go inside and instead sought to lure him out. When Jesus was told 'your mother and brothers are here' he denounced them as his family and differentiated that 'those who love me are my mother and brothers'. Meaning that at that time, Mary and her other sons did not respect Jesus.
      Why do you think Jesus snapped at his mother when she asked him to turn water into wine. People don't use the word 'woman' to their own mother unless they are irritated by them.
      Mark 3:20-21 (NIV):
      "Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, 'He is out of his mind.'"

  • @Elysium4
    @Elysium4 Год назад +17

    4:20 a minor correction, Dominion wasn't written by the actor Tom Holland but instead by the English Author and Historian Tom Holland, a separate person entirely.

    • @mountainmanmike1014
      @mountainmanmike1014 Год назад

      Low IQ person did not understand obvious joke.
      Grifting Christians is too easy.

    • @GodGuy8
      @GodGuy8 Год назад +2

      Yeah i thought he was joking at first lol

    • @martinmaynard141
      @martinmaynard141 9 месяцев назад

      Came into the comments to find out if anyone else had picked that up!

    • @stephenhaag2358
      @stephenhaag2358 6 месяцев назад

      It’s funny to imagine them being the same person tho

  • @chrichrixd9859
    @chrichrixd9859 Год назад +12

    I just randomly clicked on the main channel screen and saw you uploaded a video 6 minutes ago. I'm already intrigued by the title. I always appreciate your view on things, it kind of unique.

  • @DiMacky24
    @DiMacky24 Год назад +16

    By the 1200s, eastern and western Christianity had completely split apart and developed on separate but sometimes parallel trajectories. Unlike most of western Christianity, eastern Christianity has arrived in the modern day with rituals, feasting, fasting, mysticism, asceticism, and both masculine and feminine worship still intact. Due to both migration and conversion, eastern Christianity (Orthodox et al) are having increasingly large presence in the west and provides many of the thing this generation is lacking in western life. I think the coming reforms in the west will be an orientalizing of western churches in response to the growing eastern presence.

    • @toledochristianmatthew9919
      @toledochristianmatthew9919 Год назад +5

      To be honest, the Catholic churches still do a lot of the rituals, feast days, etc. It is more so the protestant churches that are declining.

    • @deitchj003
      @deitchj003 2 месяца назад

      You are right. I’m Jewish but converted to Eastern Orthodoxy

  • @John3.36
    @John3.36 Год назад +20

    I would add the concept of education for children, women, and poor (before it was only a very few rich men) as well as hospitals (value of human life was not important before monks coming along to actually take care of people) being a huge contribution to the world from Christianity.

    • @GangstaViolin
      @GangstaViolin Год назад

      Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
      -We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
      -There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
      -Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
      -The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
      -Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
      -Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
      -Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
      -Interestingly enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
      -Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
      -“Communism was an atheist ideology which killed millions. Therefore, atheism is bad”. That’s as ridiculous as saying “black people like Oj Simpson we’re murderers, therefore, all black people are murderers.
      -Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
      On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.

  • @MightGuy15
    @MightGuy15 Год назад +38

    I'm a pretty dedicated atheist but this is why I am glad we have freedom of religion because religion has its benefits to our society.

    • @thedukeofchutney468
      @thedukeofchutney468 Год назад +18

      While I’m not an atheist (I’m a Christian myself) I think it’s tragic how many atheist refuse to see the benefits of religion, and many religious folks cannot see the boon of a secular society. Ultimately it’s a balance and I think both are necessary for a free society.

    • @ryanward10
      @ryanward10 Год назад +12

      The best part about Christianity is that you don't need to believe it's real to benefit from it. Just follow the principals, and enjoy a happy life.

    • @careyfreeman5056
      @careyfreeman5056 Год назад +2

      @@ryanward10 Or just follow logic. Do you really need the 10 Commandments to know those things are wrong? Christians didn't invent The Golden Rule. . .

    • @gangstarock2455
      @gangstarock2455 Год назад

      ​@@thedukeofchutney468Religion doesn't benefit everyone. Hence why there are atheist. Im an atheist myself and I see your point. Christianity definitely has had a major impact on history and is basically responsible for the West's modern view of the world. That doesn't necessarily mean it's beneficial. It's very innovative though.

    • @danielutriabrooks477
      @danielutriabrooks477 Год назад

      ​@@careyfreeman5056I don't think you were born knowing them, so I would say that you need them

  • @tianming4964
    @tianming4964 Год назад +83

    Great video. For anyone who wants to read more about this stuff, the book "The Book that Made Your World" by Vishal Mangalwadi talks about a lot of the points Rudyard brought up in this video plus more, and coming from an Indian perspective he really touches on how a lot of the values and assumptions that people in the West, and even in the rest of the world, take for granted ultimately derived from Christianity

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Год назад +2

      Its quite likely that Jesus also traveled as far as India before his last days.

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W Год назад +8

      ​@@off6848 I don't think anyone but some moderm new age types consider this to be true, but Christian tradition does say tbat one of the original apostles were responsible for bringing the good news of Christ to India. It's said that the apostle Thomas traveled to India, started the Christian community there, and was eventually martyred by the Hindus.

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Год назад +1

      @@Tyler_W His uncle Joseph was a wealthy sailor he may have even visited Britain looking for tin the thing is we don't know what Jesus did exactly after studying in Egypt around the age of twelve but we do know he was with his uncle a wealthy trader with ships.

    • @feliciaf8
      @feliciaf8 5 месяцев назад

      @@off6848 ive heard that legend

  • @wellplayod1957
    @wellplayod1957 Год назад +35

    i needed this video. i’m a new christian and my friends are guiding me through my first month as a follower of the faith.
    i hope i will someday feel the same ecstasy and love that the first christian’s felt in their worship and belief in God.

    • @noxplay4906
      @noxplay4906 Год назад +1

      God bless you.

    • @redwolf915
      @redwolf915 Год назад +3

      No such thing. Atheism is truth

    • @redwolf915
      @redwolf915 Год назад +3

      @@noxplay4906 no such thing. Atheism is truth

    • @GangstaViolin
      @GangstaViolin Год назад +1

      I pity you, since the existance of God is as proved as Batman’s.
      Despite its accomplishments, nothing will change the fact that all religions are nothing but myths and superstitions.

    • @Joes-Cool-Stuff
      @Joes-Cool-Stuff 11 месяцев назад +4

      Pray everyday. Pray without ceasing. In all your actions: every thought, every consideration, every notion, feeling, or emotion - turn yourself towards God. He is there with you, always. Listen for his voice, and he will guide you. The love of Christ has been written upon your very heart, compelled by the force of His Spirit. Trust in Him; he will never leave you - even in your darkest days.
      You were made with a purpose. You have been given a divine ordination - made in the Lord's image, that you may be called a child of God. In your moments of doubt, remember Him. In your moments of despair, remember Him. In all your joys, follies, victories, and defeats - remember Him. He holds you in His hands, for blessed are they who seek Him.
      May the Grace of our Lord Jesus - who is the Christ - be with you: this day, and all the days of your life.

  • @dannyschwertner7785
    @dannyschwertner7785 Год назад +47

    Loved the video including the criticisms of my religion as they are true. I will say that in my personal circle of christian men, we are beginning to fight more. Fighting for our families and communities. Going to the uncomfortable places like bringing the gospel into prisons. Embracing the adventure like when Abram was called out to go by God. Keep up the great work. Love your perspectives

    • @redwolf915
      @redwolf915 Год назад +2

      Loool there is no invisible man in the sky

    • @alexnolan6032
      @alexnolan6032 Год назад +1

      We get it bro. You’re smarter than everyone else and you have it all figured out. Just leave the rest of us alone please while you live a miserable scientific existence :)

    • @redwolf915
      @redwolf915 Год назад

      @@alexnolan6032 I don't know about rocket science or engineering. But I do know there isn't a magical man that floods the world because he's mad at 1 city in Israel

    • @dannyschwertner7785
      @dannyschwertner7785 Год назад

      @@redwolf915 nope, there is not. There is a absolute truth, a creater that exists outsides the confines of time and space who literally spoke existence into existence. That same creater loves and adores you more than you can imagine and asks that you receive one thing. Although you and I both screwed up his creation by what we have done and what we have failed to do. He provides the gift of grace to set right what we set wrong through his Jesus who is God in human form. I pray you'll accept this gift and then walk in the freedom to love, live, and exist without any shame of past failures now and forever.

    • @redwolf915
      @redwolf915 Год назад +1

      @@dannyschwertner7785 loooool so he loves babies so much he flooded the whole world and drowned them?

  • @theodoremccarthy4438
    @theodoremccarthy4438 Год назад +10

    In terms of coming to the conclusion that love is the most important thing in the world it’s worth remembering that 500 years before Christ Aristotle concluded that filia, brotherly love, was the real foundation of a healthy polis. Also, the Ancient Greek word for freedom was “Elutheria” which roughly translates as “to arrive at the place of love”. Also, the linguist root of the English word freedom traces back to the proto-Indo-European word for “beloved”. None of this is meant to take away from Christ’s ministry. It’s just worth noting that orthopathos (“correct passions”) and love specifically were already understood as a moral imperative in the preChristian west. What Christ taught can thus be best understood as a Hellenized interpretation of the Judaic scriptures.

  • @josir1994
    @josir1994 Год назад +14

    It would be interesting to see an analysis on Christianity in Eastern cultures without the Christian values and how they mix.

    • @feliciaf8
      @feliciaf8 5 месяцев назад

      there's kerala, nagaland, eastern part of indonesia

  • @reviewman
    @reviewman Год назад +11

    53:45 “I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here: it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and before you even knew what you had you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now you're selling it, you want to sell it!”

    “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could that they didn’t stop to think if they should.”
    - Ian Malcom, Jurassic Park

  • @joshuamitchell3658
    @joshuamitchell3658 Год назад +16

    I would consider myself a conservative evangelical Christian, but you mentioned in the video that Christians seem to have lost a culture of manliness and just wanted to see if you had heard of a new book that came out called "The War on Men" by Doctor Owen Strachan? I haven't read it, but I helped run the conference where he released it just recently and during his teachings he touched on a lot of the issues the book covers. It seems like this book addresses that idea you posited and was wondering what your thoughts were on it?

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Год назад

      In the modern day masculinity is all about how many hos you can get and thats not a classic Christian interpretation of masculinity so they can go kick rocks.

    • @gonzly
      @gonzly Год назад

      Hello, just a question, this youtuber has put so many books as sources in his bibliography, do you really believe he read them all?

  • @dw5523
    @dw5523 Год назад +13

    I've had many arguments with my fellow Pastors who all seem to think Sunday fellowship is for tame, milquetoast teaching that appeals to the lowest common denominator. As a result, the whole of Sunday service loses it's vigor, and become another boring corporate meeting where everyone has to listen to a motivational speaker talk about why they should do more for the company. I keep telling them that if we continue to treat adult service like an extension of kids church - where all we read are happy, moralistic Bible stories akin to Aesop's Fables - then we'll continue to create immature, half baked evangelicals that make us all look like uneducated weirdo's.

    • @trillstina
      @trillstina 3 месяца назад

      I think service should be a conversation, like a Bible study, where everyone is expected to be involved in it and speak. This would inspire people to read the Bible for themselves and build a relationship with the truth from the Bible rather than just believing in the same rumors and mis interpretations that most pastors repeat over and over. Instead of telling people how and what to believe, give them the book and ask them what they think it means. If this were the case I would go to church.

    • @deitchj003
      @deitchj003 2 месяца назад

      Yeah bc you’re probably at low church ceremonies.

  • @noxvenit
    @noxvenit Год назад +9

    To answer your question for Christians about what it would take to launch a "reformation" of Christianity: It will be something that comes out of picking up the gauntlet laid down by Christian Nationalists, such as Doug Wilson and Stephen Wolfe. Implicit in both their work is a call, among others, to what we might call a martial spirit. One of the many things that angered men of his own denomination (the PCA, which is my denomination, too) is Wolfe's chastising Christian men for being (my summation, not his word) sissies. Similar stirrings are to be found in Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy here in the US. Note: I am not saying that Christian Nationalism is the "reformation" but rather that the vitality of such a reformation will come from men and women moved by the same visceral reaction.
    Good work on this one, Rudyard.

  • @jaewok5G
    @jaewok5G Год назад +49

    From a seed of "science and religion are not mutually exclusive but two sides of the same desire to explain the universe," I've been ruminating on this premise for many years, so thank you for producing it. I recall Douglas Murray saying that atheists aren't born that way, but [western atheists typically] are specifically ex-christians and whatever humanist ideals they profess, they are distinctly judaeo-christian and based in that tradition. he also observed that no one refers to "Christendom" anymore but have substituted the euphemistic "western" or in some instances, "anglosphere."
    ps just to affirm to you that we listen, around 46:21 you say "Christianity produced its own descendants" when I think you meant to say "dissidents."

    • @christopherlees1134
      @christopherlees1134 Год назад

      Judeao-Christian is an oxymoron, but it's a phrase used all the time nowadays. There is enmity between the Jew and the Christian, between Jewishness and Christianity. The Jews largely see the New Testament and Jesus Christ himself as "anti-Semitic", while Jesus told the Jews they were the Synagogue of Satan, that their father was the devil, and that they did the works of their father and did not know God. This is why they killed him. Christendom was always against the Jews, even though they tolerated them as best they could. Still, Christian nations in Europe (Europe was Christendom) always expelled their Jews eventually, as this list shows en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsions_and_exoduses_of_Jews
      There was no historical concept of Judeao-Christian until the 1800s, and the first time the phrase was used, it only referred to Jews who converted to Christianity. It didn't become a popular phrase until the 1930s or so, and it was a political term. The Jews found a way to corrupt the evangelical church by latching on to their interest in biblical prophecy, which is all about Israel. The Jews found that for once, there was a certain denomination of Christians who were extremely favorable toward the Jews because they felt that Israel must be restored for the (soon to come) endtime prophecies to take place. The Jews then embarked on a campaign to deceive these gullible Christians into reinterpreting the New Testament in a creative new way - a way that makes the Jews the good guys, friends of Christians, even though nothing could be further from the truth. This outstanding article from the Jerusalem Post gets into all the details www.jpost.com/opinion/no-holds-barred-is-the-new-testament-antisemitic-597774

    • @chaucermcdoogle6011
      @chaucermcdoogle6011 Год назад +1

      It's because you are taught all these hard-line standards, yet when you actually read the Bible God doesn't follow or care for his own principles. We are told to love our neighbor and yet God personally kills off the populations of entire cities down to the last man women and child. If anything the principles have outgrown their creator, as he simply tells humans to follow the rules and then does as he pleases.

    • @PoppinPsinceAD33
      @PoppinPsinceAD33 Год назад

      @@chaucermcdoogle6011
      God has every right to Judge the world and people as he sees fit… and yes, he makes rules for humans that he doesn’t follow, because Humans aren’t omnipresent and omnipotent beings that uphold judgment, decide what Morality is, and created everything down to the atoms.
      I wonder why The Bible has stories of Flood, stories of burning sulfur, and stories about countries being destroyed by war, mostly appointed by God, often after years of warning and call to stop the wrongdoing.
      Perhaps because they were Evil people as it reports in the story? Bad people get bad consequences? Even if you believe it’s not true, it boils down to some of the most simple cause and effect,
      you do the deed and you get punished.
      Your clan of people have been sacrificing children to statues? You guys are getting destroyed.
      The point you make is coming from a view where humans and God are on the same level, when Infact for Christianity this is NOT a the case. When you actually read the Bible you see this.
      Imagine a judge so perfect in moral character, and a judge that was, is , and will be forever. A judge that decides what’s right and wrong. And you are being judged by him.
      “You judged other people, and they got rather nasty ends.”
      And they deserved them.

    • @alieosharp3083
      @alieosharp3083 Год назад

      ​@@chaucermcdoogle6011If YOU had read the Bible then you would understand the Lord is Extremely consistent in his values and methods, and only performs extreme actions in the face of extreme situations. Most of those towns of people you talked about are towns where the people inside did things like sacrifice their own children, commit cannibalism, or kill/rape outsiders and their own people on fanciful whims. Do YOU think they should've been let off scot free? Or perhaps are you simply too cowardly to admit that actions have consequences, and punishing the wicked is different from loving your neighbor, which originally meant someone who was wanting to do right by you.

    • @Web720
      @Web720 Год назад +4

      ​​@@chaucermcdoogle6011
      My guy only read a few chapters. Pulling a Verhoeven I see.

  • @JoneThePwn
    @JoneThePwn Год назад +9

    Other religions and philosophies try to change people from the outside in. Jesus Christ changes who we are from the inside out. It's a truly miraculous process.

  • @travesty100
    @travesty100 Год назад +24

    Just finished Dominion. It is phenomenal. It is just as you say: everything is drawn from the seedbed of Christianity. This episode is right on the money

    • @ANonymous-mo6xp
      @ANonymous-mo6xp Год назад +2

      "Seedbed" of Christianity...
      And Christianity actually has a parable about that!!

    • @gonzly
      @gonzly Год назад

      Hello, just a question, this youtuber has put so many books as sources in his bibliography, do you really believe he read them all?

    • @travesty100
      @travesty100 Год назад

      I take it on good faith he has, but I have no way of truly knowing. Let’s ask the guy. Dominion by Tom Holland is a very long book. @whatifalthist have you read it?

    • @travesty100
      @travesty100 Год назад

      @@gonzly you never know, he may answer

    • @omnitroph1501
      @omnitroph1501 Год назад +1

      @@gonzly It's his full-time job to do this kind of research. I wouldn't doubt that he reads a lot.

  • @My10thAccount
    @My10thAccount 8 месяцев назад +3

    After listening to this I can’t imagine someone believing that Christ wasn’t God. There’s no way that some random guy in Judea with nothing to his name could not only spread his ideas throughout the world, but fundamentally rewrite the structure of society for millennia to come. The only way to explain this kind of seismic change is that Christ was exactly who he claimed to be.

  • @ConanDuke
    @ConanDuke Год назад +3

    History is a dialectal process.
    If it weren't for Christianity, we wouldn't have Communism or Secular Humanism.

  • @19ate4
    @19ate4 Год назад +12

    The Japanese ambassador’s 1st visit to America is extremely fascinating
    The painted George Washington in traditional samurai armor fighting.
    The praised USA for its most just government
    Most importantly, they was utterly baffled how our Society worships a criminal as god

    • @alexandrosstavrou4224
      @alexandrosstavrou4224 11 месяцев назад

      Which criminal?

    • @SeanWinters
      @SeanWinters 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@alexandrosstavrou4224George floyd 😂
      Nah, Jesus.

    • @feliciaf8
      @feliciaf8 5 месяцев назад

      but does the japanese know the context of it?

    • @AJ_Jingco
      @AJ_Jingco 15 дней назад

      ​@@SeanWinters I think Jesus Christ ✝️ was falsely accused by the Jews of Sedition.

  • @Handyman1911
    @Handyman1911 Год назад +8

    @WhatIfAltHist: Your absolute best video to date!
    Rudyard, you’re getting pretty good at this, and that philosophy/life-view is nicely coming into focus!

    • @GangstaViolin
      @GangstaViolin Год назад

      Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
      -We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
      -There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
      -Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
      -The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
      -Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
      -Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
      -Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
      -Interestfully enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
      -Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
      -Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
      On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.

  • @truthovertea
    @truthovertea 4 месяца назад +2

    As a Christian and philosophy nerd this I can attest this is 100% true. Tom Holland’s Dominion is the best book on this topic. The zeitgeist connections you make are false, these are not legitimate connections. From a historical perspective, there is no evidence Christianity took from those myths.

  • @fearthemerciful
    @fearthemerciful Год назад +29

    That ending was fantastic. The last 15-20 was pure gold content for asking THE question of our time. I've gone through my atheist phase already and I am among the first to critique the modern Christian church. Personally, I think that with the world wars killing off most of the Western "Aryan warrior spirit" and the experiment with Feminism running its due course, we've gotten away from that healthy balance of the Feminine and Masculine, like you said. The answer to this problem clearly involves bringing masculinity back into Christian and Western culture. Now I don't mean that we should start our theocracy, but rather the Church itself needs to start fully embracing the power of the male spirit.
    I know some people are depressed about the odds of reforming the Church, but I think that God has already provided us with the solution. Young men in the West are going through a crash course right now on gender dynamics. Yes, dating is dead for my generation, but that doesn't mean that it will be for the next. The young men of this generation are going to build the foundation of the future Church. You have to break some eggshells to get an omlette and in this manner you have to break society a little bit to understand why its valuable. Just be patient and you'll see how our generation's suffering is actually going to be the seeds for the rebirth of the Church/Western-culture.
    The atheist movement was quite effective for its time, but I think most of us here have come to understand that its insufficient, like what whatifalthist said in the video. In retrospect though, a lot of intelligent people have pointed out how horrible or dishonest the anti-religious arguments of the Dawkin's types really were. Like whatifalhist said in the video, the very concept of science comes from Christian values about God and reality. Yet all we heard for the last 3 decades was how silly the Christian value system was. I truly believe that given proper education of history and the Bible, people will begin to see how much sense Christian thinking really is. Of course, I also believe that the Devil is actively fighting against us and that we do live in a world full of sin and corruption, so to expect to be unapposed in rebuilding Western society would be foolish.
    The union of the Feminine and the Masculine is at the heart of the Church's modern issues. The science arguments have already been answered. Atheism has gone down the route of irrelevancy. Christianity needs to find out how to present a better option to the West than the "progressive"/woke types. What that is exactly I'm not 100% sure. I would need to ponder this more before giving a full example. The "redpill", bluepill and blackpill are certainly not the answers that the Church should adopt. I think they're outdated solutions that we already know the results of. Maybe after some thoughts on this I will return and post my ideas on *exactly* what the Church should do.

    • @alexiakolarski
      @alexiakolarski Год назад +3

      About dating I actually think it's good that it's dead and we should not try to resurrect it. Dating is actually a very recent phenomenon that is not Christian in origin. We need to bring match making back instead.

    • @user-iv1bv6kv6x
      @user-iv1bv6kv6x Год назад

      Christ you people are morons

    • @1988thefreeman
      @1988thefreeman Год назад

      men kept women under their control for thousands of years and the minute we gave them freedom they stabbed western civilization in the back.

    • @bfrehksdhf
      @bfrehksdhf Год назад +5

      @@alexiakolarski Match making would be a good start.
      I believe churches have to start re-building parallel societies as the modern world crumbles around us, just as they did when the first Roman Empire fell. Youths should leave the big cities and start fixing up our small towns and villages. Rebuild a monastic type system to teach kids and comfortably retire the old, who can also help raise kids. Buy up or take over empty plots of land and practice regenerative agriculture. Upgrade our ethical software and teach people how to use technology for good and productive purposes. Christians have to actually fill in those gaps the world desperately needs.
      The warrior spirit, the mysticism, the legends of lore, all that will return when people start to get real.

  • @iwatchyoutube4179
    @iwatchyoutube4179 Год назад +25

    This is genuinely interesting. I am a Muslim so most of my view of the world and principle/morality came from Islam. Hearing other view is quite an experience in itself and I do think all religion played a huge role becoming a guide for humanity one way or another. I do wonder that can humanity really escape from religion (just my nugget of thought).

    • @off6848
      @off6848 Год назад +4

      I sympathize with Muslim brothers because we worship the same Father but the idea that God came down in a body and died for us is a huge barrier but how else could God sacrifice and die for us if he didn't come as a man? The spirit of God cannot die and so the Father/Aba/Allah could not show love and sacrifice for his children if he didn't come down.
      Not trying to preach but I'm compelled to share this truth

    • @popgabriel5327
      @popgabriel5327 Год назад +1

      @iwatchyoutube4179 Could you provide a good channel or video where I can learn more about the Islamic principles and morality? I'd be interested to see the similarities and differences.

    • @zephaniahdejene1746
      @zephaniahdejene1746 Год назад +4

      we can but if we do so its back to the stone ages

    • @iwatchyoutube4179
      @iwatchyoutube4179 Год назад +2

      @@popgabriel5327 dr zakir naik. He's speech is intresting.

    • @John3.36
      @John3.36 Год назад

      Looks up 'Nabi Asli' that is a world-view eye-opener.

  • @tabithan2978
    @tabithan2978 Год назад +7

    Do a video now on the spread of atheism. Japan isn’t Christian and it’s doing fine.

    • @basedku1326
      @basedku1326 4 дня назад

      That's mostly cause its propped up by the usa, they are even forced to abide by 1940's USA Law funny enough reason for why gay marriage is banned there. So even they are tied to Christianity in a way.

  • @sambun6394
    @sambun6394 Год назад +12

    I just LOVE that you list everything you read.

  • @shorewall
    @shorewall Год назад +10

    I was just reading a passage in the Book of Mormon, that was talking about how in our time, preachers will deny the God of Miracles. They will say, God has done his work, there is no more, now we just live our lives.
    The point being made was that the true church of Christ needs miracles, needs faith, needs revelation and prophets. That kind of goes along with what you are saying about Christianity needing that esoteric and transcendant quality that it once had.
    There was a Mormon leader who said that laughter is of God, because when he laughed purely, he felt the spirit of God. And Mormons believe in having dances and parties, but also in morals.
    There are things like addictions that dull our spiritual sensitivity. People online even talk about how things like Porn, drugs, alcohol, etc. don't make them happy but actually make them miserable. But you need something to replace that lifestyle. We all have a hole in our hearts that we are trying to fill. The concept of a loving God who wants us to succeed is meaningful. And in these times, we need something greater than ourselves to hold onto.

    • @konnorporter5115
      @konnorporter5115 Год назад +4

      The Orthodox church, which has remained the same for 2000 years, has miracles up to this day and has never lost its transcendent quality.

    • @isawaninterestingthing...7597
      @isawaninterestingthing...7597 Год назад

      ​@@konnorporter5115lots of respect for orthodoxy, but I just find it weird that you haven't had any ecumenical councils since the separation with the Catholic church, while they have.

    • @isawaninterestingthing...7597
      @isawaninterestingthing...7597 Год назад

      ​@@konnorporter5115also, that different orthodox sects aren't in communion with each other (ie the russian orthodox church not in communion with some of the other orthodox churches)

    • @gideonmele1556
      @gideonmele1556 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@isawaninterestingthing...7597 orthodox have not had the best of times since the other four seats of the Pentarchy were lost to muslim conquests

  • @katfordroth9165
    @katfordroth9165 Год назад +25

    Many of the flaws of Christianity you mentioned past 42:35 are also very present in my faith, Mormonism, at least in my local area. I had to sit through yet another boring (in the strongest possible terms) Sunday school lesson today, and these criticisms rang very true. Buzzkills run the congregations, giving dry, unengaging sermons and lessons that consist of "Jesus loves you" and "what have YOU learned this week," and when someone points out how boring and lazy these lessons are, they are shamed and told THEY are doing something wrong and the teachers are excused for just being "in a rush" and/or "stressed," even after the tenth time they've done this. Many Mormons (mainly women) post "inspirational" quotes online to show off just how faithful they are. At every General Conference the same exact messages are given over and over, but when this is pointed out you are told to just "pray for revelation" or "be in tune with the Spirit." My Church, overall, selects for ultra-conformists in leadership who don't try anything new and give the same messages every week. All this to say, I feel frustrated by all the untapped doctrine, stories and mythology of Mormonism and Christianity that the leadership simply doesn't draw on, instead opting to say things like "I just want you to know how much God loves you" and "you are oh so special in the eyes of God." I'm aware this is a huge problem in mainline Christianity as well, and many Christians, mainly of a Protestant persuasion, have the same or worse issues. I've also been trying to start on remedying some of these problems, but since you can't just volunteer and have to wait for the congregation's leaders to give you a calling (if they even give you one), it's really hard to even start fixing these things. Like you said at the end, we need a Reformation to truly fix these problems, and I hope I can play a role in that for my church.

    • @NastyCat464
      @NastyCat464 Год назад +3

      Yeah I’ve noticed this too. I hope the leaders will learn to be a bit more assertive haha

    • @bookerlunds
      @bookerlunds Год назад

      What you see as missing is the WORK. And it may be the fault of the teacher, but we all share responsibility for this. In the tedium of the routine and ritual, we can find the sublime. This requires a connectedness to the spirit that is not easy. Why do you think the temple ordinances are repetitive? There is design in it. It is a meditation. When you listen with your whole attention, you learn to hear the voice of God. Don't be afraid of the boring.

    • @MarcKSmith
      @MarcKSmith Год назад

      We've gotta quit "marketing" and get back to DOING what we profess to believe. (BTW, I'm sure that if you want to volunteer in my branch, our president would be happy to extend a calling in short order, lol!)

    • @PoppinPsinceAD33
      @PoppinPsinceAD33 Год назад

      I hope you find Christianity, but Mormons are usually moral people,

    • @RansomedSoulPsalm49-15
      @RansomedSoulPsalm49-15 Год назад

      mormonism is false. There is absolutely zero archeological evidence for anything that supposedly took place in north america in the book of mormon. The Bible says that there were no gods before God and neither shall there be after but mormonism claims that there have been gods before God. Mormonism claims that God was just a man like us. Mormonism claims that we can become gods. Mormonism claims that the bible has been corrupted but the bible is the most well preserved set of documents from the ancient world with the most numerous amount of manuscripts. If you want to really challenge your faith i recommend looking up the channel Expedition Bible and watching his video on mormonism. Joseph Smith fails the biblical test of a prophet

  • @calebneff5777
    @calebneff5777 Год назад +10

    While it mourn our post-Christian West in some sense, it also opens up new and exciting evangelistic opportunities. Praise God for that. The Spirit has fresh soil for us to plant in, and the harvest will be ripe!

    • @Bsh.aralloom
      @Bsh.aralloom Год назад

      I have the money, but I need to request from America if you can. If you agree, I will My friend, I want to ask you for a favorgive ant you to request a visa for me

  • @arcticike8017
    @arcticike8017 Год назад +39

    "Christianity doesn't need youth counselors, it needs another reformation to survive." That was incredibly based. I haven't heard one sentence hit that hard in forever. And that's coming from a Christian, although I'm non-denominational and disagree with a lot of what modern denominations teach.

    • @joshuawadsworth6417
      @joshuawadsworth6417 Год назад +4

      Especially the “sparkle creed”
      Im agnostic and they make me wanna go crusader.

    • @Gofishefurwitz
      @Gofishefurwitz Год назад

      Its a pretty typical talking point, "guys we need to re-brand and sell the same repackaged slop to the masses!".

    • @chrisg4305
      @chrisg4305 Год назад

      ​@@joshuawadsworth6417I had to look up the sparkle creed and cant accept that it isn't a joke.

    • @PoppinPsinceAD33
      @PoppinPsinceAD33 Год назад +2

      Guys, look up project reconquista.

    • @TrixRN
      @TrixRN Год назад

      @@PoppinPsinceAD33 Operation Reconquista? Project reconquista was the plan to take Spain back from the Muslims.

  • @lostandlost519
    @lostandlost519 2 месяца назад

    Keep reading Rudyard. Love your content. Keep up the great work. Thank you.

  • @zee-fr5kw
    @zee-fr5kw Год назад +15

    Too many fellow Christian are so against being wrong. But that is the beauty of Christianity, we are wrong and thats okay. God loves us no matter, We just need to push and strive to be better!

    • @feliciaf8
      @feliciaf8 5 месяцев назад

      yep in the end nothings is perfect in this world, eventually everything will come crashing down

  • @ianweir3608
    @ianweir3608 Год назад +18

    Friday, October 13 is actually a very auspicious day from a Christian perspective, it's only bad luck for bad people.
    Thanks for the video, you're doing God's work

    • @NeilOB9
      @NeilOB9 Год назад +1

      Not sure the Templars were bad, the Catholic Church even says today they were not guilty of the crimes they were accused of.

    • @ianweir3608
      @ianweir3608 Год назад

      @@NeilOB9 the Catholic Church says a lot of things, especially this pope. I've read into it a bit (a couple modest books, not wikipedia) and while there are good arguments all around, the accusations seem to me to be more likely to be true than not. Ultimately, though, neither of us will probably ever know.
      I think they get a lot of sympathy because their confessions were tortured out of them, which is obviously not a legitimate way to get a confession and the sympathy is well deserved. That being said, dozens of templars from across the breadth of Europe, made identical confessions on the same days, without having the opportunity to confer with one another. This, I think, is my most compelling anecdote. Also, there are many books written by high degree freemasons publically available which express their conviction that the accusations were also true.
      At any rate, today is only unlucky for Templars and perhaps freasons, but not most of us

    • @sharkinator7819
      @sharkinator7819 Год назад

      Never knew that. Not that I’m scared of Friday the 13th (not that I plan on camping on one of those days), but that’s good to know

    • @redwolf915
      @redwolf915 Год назад

      No such thing as god

    • @GangstaViolin
      @GangstaViolin Год назад

      Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
      -We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
      -There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
      -Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
      -The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
      -Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
      -Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
      -Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
      -Interestfully enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
      -Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
      -Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
      On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.

  • @Jim-cc9ti
    @Jim-cc9ti Год назад +5

    You continue to put out the absolute best content on RUclips. Keep ‘em coming! 👍🏻

    • @martin2289
      @martin2289 Год назад

      🤣 You must watch a lot of complete trash if you think this tripe is "the absolute best content."

  • @RoronoaZorosHaki
    @RoronoaZorosHaki Год назад +14

    Damn Rudyard, you’re pumping out content like a madman.

  • @DrakusLuthos
    @DrakusLuthos Год назад +11

    4:21 Dude, I literally bought Dominion for my dad on his birthday.
    We're both atheists, but I thought it'd be an interesting read.

  • @sharkinator7819
    @sharkinator7819 Год назад +11

    Could you do a video on how the big 3 denominations (Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox) influence their respective societies? I know you did one on Orthodoxy, but a Catholic vs Protestant civilization video would be interesting

    • @Hope_Boat
      @Hope_Boat 11 месяцев назад

      Orthodoxy is not a denomination. It's the trunk.

  • @MichaelK.-xl2qk
    @MichaelK.-xl2qk Год назад +18

    Rudyard, I think that you're giving a very rational account of Christianity which is both kind and true, and that your appreciation of its contributions is refreshing. Yet there are a few points which I think must be addressed in order to fill in the picture here. And I don't know if I can do it justice, since it's a highly subjective topic. But the way you look at it is from the outside in, from a set of presumptions which lay outside the true Christian viewpoint, and so are kind of missing the forest for the trees. The first of your presumption seems to be that none of it is really true, except psychologically. And that Jesus sort of originated a psychological system that synthesiszed the most successful parts of previous systems, and that it took hold in the marketplace of ideas because it offered a succesful survival value by allowing its believers to obtain a series of growth advantages within their societies, or something like that. And I think the problem is that you don't give any time to how the Church sees itself and its explanations for things as a sort of basis for comparison to your analysis. I won't go into that because I'm not an authority and this isn't the right venue. But I think that if you want to make a deeper historical case about the role the Church has had, you need to get inside its head and try to think like it thinks, and then step back out and have your opinions. Because without knowing what the Church really was saying to itself about itself and about the world it lived in, your theories lack the kind of comprehension which would give them true gravitas. So, as a suggestion, I think you owe the subject the time it takes to get down to the psychological reality such as it really was within the body of believers during the most important formative period, which can only be done by reading more about patristics and theology. Then you could have a more educated view about the way that psychology impacted the historical process. If this takes you one step closer to affirming the things believed by the Church, then so be it. But in so doing you bypass the many dead end side tracks of heretical cultism, and learn the history of the Christological debate and its rational merits. There is this RUclipsr named Seraphim Hamilton who gives the best rational apologetics for the Orthodox Catholic Christianity of the undivided early Church. If you learn the actual dogmas as they were defined by the several Church Councils, all convened to deal with historical controversies that arose around the way people reasoned about God, then you will gain a much better idea of what distinctions exist in historical Christian thought and how they impacted social and intellectual life. Otherwise, without a detailed understanding I'm afraid that your narratives seem too modern in that they fall short of being able to relate at all to what they were really thinking back then, instead substituing educated guesses from third hand accounts, which are rather off the mark by a mile.

  • @adnanalic7690
    @adnanalic7690 Год назад +9

    youve made every single video in the past few years, and still havent really scratched the balkans
    come on, its about time to get dirty with this powder keg, mixed with all three abrahamic religions
    and of course, huge thanks for all the work you put into this, youve changed my life and how i see the world, just cant wait for the actual balkan video

    • @popgabriel5327
      @popgabriel5327 Год назад

      I wanna have my society analyzed like that too.

  • @Ushakov_Mykyta
    @Ushakov_Mykyta Год назад +20

    To be fair, actual historical Jesus Christ was likely a rabbi of the Pharisees faction. Rabbis of that time period were not only priests but also lawyers, teachers, judges, academics and politicians. He was not at all lower-class, more like upper-middle class - he was from a very influential group of people but was not a landlord, merchant or of noble blood. Carpentry was likely a second job for him, as it was common for rabbi of the time to know a second craft as they needed to earn money when there was no teaching, lawyering or politicking in town.

    • @catnappernellie1211
      @catnappernellie1211 Год назад +7

      Coming from a small town like Nazareth? Perhaps he served his local synagogue but a Pharisee? What did you base that off of?

    • @Ushakov_Mykyta
      @Ushakov_Mykyta Год назад +4

      ​@@catnappernellie1211 Simply on his teachings. He preached what many Pharisees rabbis believed and did it like a Pharisee too. The Bible also recounts how he interacted with other Pharisees, like Luke 2:41-52 places adolescent Jesus in the temple among teachers, one of whom is believed to be Hillel the Elder, one of the leaders of the Pharisees. Jesus also was fluent in Greek and Hebrew, in addiction to the common lingua franca of the time - Aramaic, which suggest a formal education of a rabbi.
      Other parties would simply not fit either. Sadducees were from the landed aristocracy and the warrior class of Judea, they saw Judaism as a more traditional Middle East faith - less religious and scholarly, more political and clan-based, more similar to the paganism of Babylon and Egypt then to the Rabbinic Judaism we know today. Zealots were the actual Taliban of ancient Judea - militant and mystical, wheras Jesus was peaceful and well-educated. And the Essenes were too ascetic and community-focused to have ever produce an individualist thinker like Jesus.

    • @johnrockyryan
      @johnrockyryan Год назад

      Nah the Pharisees were dickheads Jesus hated dickheadery

    • @williamjudge4913
      @williamjudge4913 2 месяца назад +1

      While you are correct in your assumption Jesus 's teaching aligned with the Pharisees, he did associate with Essenes (probably his cousin John and the owner of the "upper room") and one of his Apostles was a Zealot. Also the Pharisees were not priests, nor judges and they were the most populated sect at that time. The Judges were mostly Sadducees and the priests were Levites (not the same category. His upbringing was as a laborer, carpenter is just a translation but more accurate term is physical laborer (stone cutter, house builder, carpenter) and his upbringing certainly attest to his poor status, namely his parents' atonement sacrifice for him of two pigeons (a poor man's sacrifice)
      Last Rabbi just means teacher. It is a title of a person you listen too. It is not an occupation like it is today. The modern rabbinic Judaism is not the same as ancient Judaism, even within the Pharesetical sect. So a learned man walking around giving life advice with a few hundred people following is a teacher.

  • @michhanesh5466
    @michhanesh5466 Год назад +6

    The idea that Mithras birthday was on the 25th is myth, Much about the cult of Mithras is only known from reliefs and sculptures. as per the wikipedia page. any similarities to christianity are probably copies rather than the other way around. note that the date of Christ birth is also a later accretion to the faith and pretty much arbitralrily chosen

  • @TheMulletOperator_77
    @TheMulletOperator_77 Год назад +22

    I actually agree with you're take on some of the falls with modern Christianity. I attend a more progressive mainline church; however, a couple years ago I became more evangelical. I became more and more interested in joining the conservative (evangelical) branch of my denomination. However, I recently got into a movement started by a Christian in my denomination (Redeemed Zoomer) who convinced me to stay in my church/denomination. I think one big problem you didn't mention: is American Christianity specifically evangelicals and fundamentalists' Christians. I think it would be vital to distinguish Christianity from the rest of society, the problem with conservative Christians in America is beside on moral issues they really are any different from most secular Americans, this is a mistake. For my fellow Christians: we shouldn't be content with following the culture as long as they don't contradict the rules of our faith, we need to be lights to the rest of the world. Go out and reclaim the institutions of our forefathers that were built by Christians, retake our heritage. I will try and do my part, I hope and pray for us to hold steadfast to the faith.

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W Год назад

      I think you're on to something here, but I think there's more to it. Conservative fundamentalist Christianity has contributed to the decline of the faith in the West just as much as the jellyfish progressive Christianity without Christ in it because of the influence of a 19th century systematic theology called dispensationalism. Dispensationalism has ultimately produced a lot of Christians too heavenly minded to be of any earthly good because of a false defeatist mindset that says that the church will ultimately fail in winning the world to Christ, that the world is destined to just get worse and worse (culminating in a hell on earth literal 7 years tribulation period), and that true believers should remove themselves from wider society, hide in the comfort and safety of our little echo chambers while the world around us goes to hell in a hand basket, and wait until Christ beams us out in a secret rapture that nobody prior to the 19th century believed was even a thing. The Redeemed Zoomer (an excellent creator imo) has talked about how the fundamentalist evangelicals cut themselves off from the mainline churches to form their own, and dispensationalist thought plays a huge role in why this happened in the first place. I think he has a video on it, but I don't think he dig too deeply amd might not fully appreciate how it caused a lot of the problems he's phsbing against by calling people to retake the institutions and mainline churches. I came from this school of thought. I love my family and the community I came from, and they are slowly improving (and thankfully, dispensationalism has heen dying in popularity over the last decade or two), but the more I've learned, the more I hate this philosophy that has produced a lot of doctrinal problems (and birderline heresies) and a negligence of our Christian duty to be the emissaries of Christ through our influence in wider society.

    • @danielutriabrooks477
      @danielutriabrooks477 Год назад +3

      Redeemed Zoomer, I also watch his videos, he is a nice guy

    • @John3.36
      @John3.36 Год назад +1

      Looks up 'Spencer Smith' on here for an interesting take.

    • @CatholicChats
      @CatholicChats Год назад

      Redeemed zoomed is my fav Protestant lol! His reconquista strategy is great

  • @friedrichk.5609
    @friedrichk.5609 Год назад +11

    The youth meetup at my church is always one of the highlights of my week, I wish that christianity can make more peoples lifes better too.
    To me the end of this video is very inspirational. We have to be creative to get people speaking about god. We will come through...

  • @Duffmayne0590
    @Duffmayne0590 Год назад +4

    Rudyard been cracking em out this week. Good on you bro, I'm here for it.

  • @dragoncool200
    @dragoncool200 Год назад +24

    I didn't even watched the video yet but i must say that it is a work of art.

  • @Rivershield
    @Rivershield 4 месяца назад +3

    32:16 i think you meant anti-Suffraget movement? Because the sufraggetes were The opposite, it was occultist/satanist. Read Rachel Wilson's book on the topic: Occult Feminism.
    The anti-suffragetes were christians.

  • @Fahrenheit4051
    @Fahrenheit4051 Год назад +6

    22:47 - Interestingly, the Romans viewed the Jews as backwards due to the Jews practicing polygamy. Christianity culturally appropriated the theory of monogamy from the Romans, combined it with the Judaism's strict prohibition against adultery, and put it into practice.

    • @shelbyspeaks3287
      @shelbyspeaks3287 Год назад

      And they took the aggressive homophobia and gender roles from the jews and romans while also leaving room for androgynous characteristics in Jesus himself to appear more universal.

    • @norsie45
      @norsie45 Год назад +2

      at roman times Jews were no longer practicing polygamy.
      First temple Judaism and Second temple Judaism are in many ways 2 separate cultures.

    • @Fahrenheit4051
      @Fahrenheit4051 Год назад +1

      ​@@shelbyspeaks3287 Homophobia was the norm throughout most cultures. Those who say "I'm not homophobic, because I'm not afraid of homosexuals." don't realize that "phobia" can also mean "aversion to" (e.g. hydrophobic molecules).
      Homosexuality, much like left-handedness, comes with its own challenges and comorbidities.
      For left-handedness, most technologies are designed for righties. Lefties also suffer from a higher rate of certain mental illnesses that are probably the result of brain development rather than simply being society's fault. Ditto for homosexuals. Interestingly, an unusually high percentage of U.S. presidents are left-handed.
      For homosexuality, the human sex organs did not evolve for this purpose - it's an emergent phenomenon. That doesn't make it wrong.
      Regardless of whether it's man/man or man/woman, the anal route poses a much higher risk of contracting STD's - way more than sharing needles. Today, it's HIV, while in ancient times, it was probably syphilis. Female homosexual sex, on the other hand, is "cleaner" than even heterosexual sex.
      Interestingly, while any type of sex outside marriage was considered wrong, it was male homosexuality that was specified as a capital offense in the Hebrew Bible.
      I would imagine a strong taboo around homosexuality means that while fewer people will practice it, a higher percentage of those who do practice it openly will be people who don't care about being branded freaks. This, in turn, would include a crop of sociopaths, libertines, and exhibitionists who tarnish the reputation of homosexuality as a concept. Differences in brain development might account for some of this too.
      Traditional marriage for homosexuals is a fairly new concept, and it'll be interesting to see how it works out in the long run. I would like to see a society which tolerates homosexuality, but does not tolerate exhibitionism or promiscuity, whether straight or gay. These things offend my conscience at a deep, instinctive level. That's probably no accident - they are unsanitary and create bad developmental environments for children (or none at all).
      Gender roles were invented by over 500 million years of evolution, regardless of what a creationist will tell you. As smart as we are, we apes can't escape our own mammalhood, and it would be foolish to even try.
      Now, could you explain how Jesus was androgynous? I read all the gospels, and didn't really get that idea.

  • @FryGuuuuuy
    @FryGuuuuuy Год назад +6

    What a great video. Please continue this series with maybe other religions or spirituality
    I would be thrilled to hear your thoughts about those topics further

    • @GangstaViolin
      @GangstaViolin Год назад

      Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
      -We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
      -There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
      -Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
      -The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
      -Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
      -Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
      -Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
      -Interestfully enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
      -Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
      -Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
      On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.

  • @RandallvanOosten-ln5wf
    @RandallvanOosten-ln5wf 4 месяца назад +2

    Your point about science collapsing after 2-3 generations of De-Christianization, you can readily see this as Feminist/Woke irrationality gradually smothers the pursuit of truth. The pursuit of truth becomes too "hurtful" as universities become Safe-Spaces and topics become off limits.

  • @OGgrandpaw
    @OGgrandpaw Год назад +22

    This was one of the best videos that I've heard on Christianity in a while. Thank you. I believe that you are correct and it just needs to be accepted. Our society tends to think that it's so smart when in reality it's looking way more ignorant as time goes by. Thank you for the video and I look forward to the videos you say your going to make.

  • @TheLifeOfMrT
    @TheLifeOfMrT Год назад +8

    As much as I enjoyed Dominion, Tom Holland drew heavily from the work & thesis that Rodney Stark (RIP) spent his professional career exploring in depth. It's a grave disservice that Rodney Stark isn't more well-know.
    Read For the Glory of God, Rise of Christianity, Triumph of Christianity, How the West Won, & Victory of Reason. Those together will be a much more thorough exploration of the subject.

    • @laststand6420
      @laststand6420 Год назад +3

      Most people probably don't have time to read all 5 of those books unless they have a professional interest in the matter.

  • @cellospot
    @cellospot 7 месяцев назад +1

    TLDR: Practicing Christians have more fun and are stronger than non-Christians, because they avoid sinning and all the heartache and problems involved with sin, and they imitate the love of Christ.
    I'm an Orthodox Christian. In our tradition, every day is a feast day for several saints. I love reading saints' lives, and when the feast day of one comes whom I particularly love, it's like celebrating their birthday (so to say, that's how it feels -- the saints become dearly beloved friends). Also, the festal season of Pascha (Easter) lasts until Pentecost (some 40 or 50 days later, idr). Christmas also lasts for 12 days... it's the one day, plus more in which we continue to sing hymns dedicated to the Lord's birth, etc. I can't speak for other Christian denominations, but Orthodoxy, while it does place an emphasis on self-control, attempting to not sin, etc, it also doesn't demonize you if you do sin, and there isn't any punishment except for what you do to yourself -- which can sometimes be plenty punishment -- and then the natural consequences of your actions. It's more like, sometimes, you may get a penance to act as medicine to help you get back on track, and this is very personalized (the priest may participate in the penance, too, that is, he may do it with the penitent), and a penance is helpful, too, especially if you want to follow Christ -- otherwise, stop calling yourself a Christian and go do whatever you want to do. And to say there's no fun... I don't know. It's so freeing to not be gripped by the passions. When I feel lust, for example, I want no part of it because it really makes me feel sick, and I hate my thoughts and actions when I'm in the grip of lust because I know that that's not really me. But who says Christians can't have fun? Don't sin, but do what Christ tells you to do... that may be paragliding with your son who has never done it before and really wants to try it out, but just needs his parent's support. Christianity is about love, loving others more than you love yourself. It's not about adhering to a strict moral code. Legalism has no place in a Christian's heart. Anyway, I understand criticism of Christianity from the outside, but I also know that non-Christians don't fully understand Christianity, either. I was everything but Christian until I was 33, so I get it. I've only been in the Church for 6 years, so I'm hardly an authority on this way of life (calling it a religion is actually a denigration of what Christianity really is), and I don't really understand it myself, but it's more true and real than anything I've ever experienced before. There's no way I'd ever go back to being non-Christian. Anyway, thank you for this interesting video. And forgive my long-winded comment... you said something about how Christians don't have fun, and also Christianity's supposed lack of strength... let me make one more comment on this point -- I highly recommend that you read the story about the nuns of Shamordino. I could say more, but this is too many words as it is. Thank you, and God bless you and your work.

  • @Mr_Blah
    @Mr_Blah Год назад +5

    A spiderman actor also being a history writer is some next level method acting