I Can’t Believe Trek Has Done This! New 2025 Madone SLR replaces Emonda...

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @Roger101Watson
    @Roger101Watson 3 месяца назад +384

    The real reason...reduce the number of models in the range due to current state of bike industry

    • @matkrek
      @matkrek 3 месяца назад +15

      Just more cost effective regardless of the industry state, works for Specialized

    • @josephreilman8527
      @josephreilman8527 3 месяца назад +8

      And screw what the customer wants

    • @Andy_ATB
      @Andy_ATB 3 месяца назад +20

      No need for two races bikes....You don't see motorsport teams use two different models in one series. It's ridiculously expensive.

    • @garybrown5769
      @garybrown5769 3 месяца назад +1

      100% nail on the head

    • @staccatoglock
      @staccatoglock 3 месяца назад +1

      💯

  • @bsbbernal
    @bsbbernal 3 месяца назад +45

    I noticed the change in how you structure and format these reviews. You seem to tackle questions more directly and more objectively now--reserving judgment when needed. Much appreciated and refreshing compared to your old style of review.

    • @perjensen1962
      @perjensen1962 3 месяца назад +3

      I totally agree. Good format David🤗

  • @sarahtoustra7127
    @sarahtoustra7127 3 месяца назад +126

    Love how these companies present cost-cutting measures and less choice for customers as an improvement.

    • @kreed4
      @kreed4 3 месяца назад +1

      Truth

    • @HeyWattsUpCycling
      @HeyWattsUpCycling 3 месяца назад +1

      100%. just a do it all bike. its going to be worse than either and the weight difference between the gen 7 madone and emonda is less than half a pound and data has shown no matter where your riding the aero gains even on climbs more than make up for the difference.

    • @AG-el6vt
      @AG-el6vt 3 месяца назад +1

      Well, it *is* and improvement. For them.

    • @JMurph2015
      @JMurph2015 3 месяца назад +1

      To be fair, Specialized and some others are getting close-ish to the UCI weight limits which means that at least for pros, there is literally zero benefit for additional weight savings. So they might as well try to make that 6.8kg system more and more aero. Trek is a fair bit off here though.

    • @davidkennedy4845
      @davidkennedy4845 3 месяца назад

      "Spin" of the marketing type. "Spin", in my book, is to maintain a high cadence. They seem to get the two confused! To their benefit of course.

  • @gregbianchi2689
    @gregbianchi2689 3 месяца назад +265

    A guy in a bike shop gave me the best advice years ago. he said you want to go up hills faster ?? Lose 20 lbs. And he was right...

    • @mmurmurjohnson2368
      @mmurmurjohnson2368 3 месяца назад +6

      Or draft the guys on the Sl8s and new Madones, I'll keep my old Madone my old Venge 🔥

    • @derekbiggerstaff
      @derekbiggerstaff 3 месяца назад +17

      So he was calling you fat.

    • @flipper2gv
      @flipper2gv 3 месяца назад +20

      @@derekbiggerstaff Everybody's fat compared to the pros.

    • @kevinbarkema1666
      @kevinbarkema1666 3 месяца назад +1

      And with this bike…..

    • @kellenhassell
      @kellenhassell 3 месяца назад +4

      Cool story bro

  • @LukeGJPotter
    @LukeGJPotter 3 месяца назад +52

    If we can't believe the claimed weight, can we believe the claimed Aero?
    The previous gen is much better looking.

    • @sodamanoi
      @sodamanoi 2 месяца назад

      This new model saves more drag from the new aero bottle design 😅

  • @gregvassilakos
    @gregvassilakos 3 месяца назад +32

    Oh no! I ride an Emonda. Part of the attraction was that it is a simple frame design with no gimmicks. Perhaps my next bike will be a Cervelo Soloist or Giant TCR.

    • @shiznit76
      @shiznit76 3 месяца назад +11

      Why? Stick to your current emonda if you don't like this version

    • @jamesspokes1372
      @jamesspokes1372 3 месяца назад +5

      Keep the Emonda.

    • @levipicard7685
      @levipicard7685 2 месяца назад +2

      It's still relatively simple, no iso speed. Keep your emonda for now, they're still crazy fast. But there's no gimmick here it's just different from what you're used to seeing.

    • @Gws525
      @Gws525 Месяц назад +1

      Giant TCR is wickedly underrated

    • @JIMMYHIBBS1
      @JIMMYHIBBS1 27 дней назад +1

      I just swapped my 2016 Emonda S5 for an Emonda SL6 pro - looked at the soloist, but couldn’t justify the price for the same spec (di2 - carbon wheels) … I’m not unrealistic that Trek carbon wheels and finishing kits are the best - but at the price point, they appear nicely finished, and good paint jobs (looked at Canyon and Orbea and they just look budget by comparison)

  • @AdamJStoryDC
    @AdamJStoryDC 3 месяца назад +15

    I'm glad I didn't drink the Coolaid and buy a heavy bike believing that weight didn't matter and only aerodynamics mattered (unless you're at a 9% incline). I guess now we're back to "weight matters" so I'll wait a year to buy this bike when they Trek can't sell any for $14,000 and it will be on sale for $7999.

    • @korsveien
      @korsveien 3 месяца назад

      I bought my canyon Endurace disc in 2018. It was the lowest tier with carbon frame and 105 Shimano. At 8,2 kg it was considered to be a bit heavy. How times have changed and people quickly forget. Guess we now are going back to anything over 8 kg is heavy again.

    • @jamesspokes1372
      @jamesspokes1372 3 месяца назад

      Spot on. The 180 is breath taking

  • @_cpdchua
    @_cpdchua 3 месяца назад +31

    7.3 kgs without pedals + having Sram Red is diabolical. Whack

  • @lawman1965
    @lawman1965 3 месяца назад +20

    "We've tried to break it".
    Not until you've given it to an overweight English rider like me to test ride it on our wonderful lanes!
    Paris Roubaix? Pah, Staffordshire lanes with fat old me on the bike will kill it dead.....lol.
    Seriously though, I do wonder how reliable it will be for heavier riders like me on our really terrible roads!

    • @bravodelta6883
      @bravodelta6883 3 месяца назад +5

      He tried to break it...Meanwhile, he weighs 110 pounds.

    • @deployeddan
      @deployeddan 3 месяца назад

      I'm close to the bikes limit... So give it to me for a week.... Challenge accepted 😂

    • @andy009m
      @andy009m 3 месяца назад

      I think they don’t hire old fat people for test ride. See how fit they are. Even the big guy there is not fat.

    • @andrew30m
      @andrew30m 3 месяца назад

      Staffs lanes! Luxury! the roads around Lichfield are like silk smooth, thus needs to try roads round York, like ploughed field wit soom stoney tarmac throwen ont top, and we r grateful for dem.

    • @leedorney
      @leedorney 2 месяца назад

      Was up over Huddersfield way at the weekend and those roads great inclines but by god the state was chronic truly bad potholes! I really believe I could snap those bike especially that (pathetic) dual seatpost

  • @jEsperesence
    @jEsperesence 3 месяца назад +3

    I’ll just buy the new bottles and bottle cage on my 2021 Emonda SL6 Pro and BAM! I got my somewhat a Gen 8 update! 😅 Cheapest way to deal with this. Emonda ❤ Forever!

  • @jamessankey01
    @jamessankey01 2 месяца назад

    Top shelf content, thanks. Excellent ride footage and high level of detail. Great shots of the bikes. This is in contrast to so many others who focus on them talking instead of ride & bike footage.

  • @Gixer750pilot
    @Gixer750pilot 3 месяца назад +14

    It’s about Reducing SKUs . It makes sense . But the geometry may be too extreme for most .

    • @stefanomancini6569
      @stefanomancini6569 3 месяца назад +2

      agreed

    • @scottf3456
      @scottf3456 3 месяца назад +3

      Yes, now they need to revamp the domane, lower the weight and get rid if the iso speed. Or bring back the h2 fit on this model.

    • @Andy_ATB
      @Andy_ATB 3 месяца назад +2

      @@scottf3456 Nothing wrong with the Domane; the perfect bike for the 'normal' rider......

    • @Andy_ATB
      @Andy_ATB 3 месяца назад +1

      Marlin, Roscoe and alloy Procaliber surely aren't all needed?

    • @scottf3456
      @scottf3456 3 месяца назад

      @@Andy_ATB well thats a matter of opinion, you can say there was nothing wrong with the emonda or the madone.
      Domane is like just about the heaviest in class and the isospeed while confortable - people have complained about it as the bike ages.
      Still it is a beautiful bike as is there is no denying that.

  • @Justjust007
    @Justjust007 3 месяца назад +1

    I like how frank you are and also detailed..I just wish that someone did a video on Trek FX Sport 6 .I just want to ride on paved trails and feel light, but I don't know if it's worth spending $2700 for a city bike ...Thanks for your videos

  • @cmarnold78
    @cmarnold78 3 месяца назад +1

    Look at that brutal attack at 16:11!!!! Crushing dreams there David!

  • @HeadPack
    @HeadPack 3 месяца назад +1

    Gen 7 is a piece of art by comparison. Might try to get myself one used, now that this is out.

  • @madyogi6164
    @madyogi6164 3 месяца назад +6

    And as always it is 200 grams lighter, more aero, and rides faster. Just we are older and slower. Comedy gold.

    • @davidkennedy4845
      @davidkennedy4845 3 месяца назад +1

      In a blind testing, most wouldn't be able to distinguish a difference between the outgoing model and this one.

    • @madyogi6164
      @madyogi6164 3 месяца назад

      @@davidkennedy4845 You're right! Well, position will be bit different (different sizing brings slightly different angles here or there).

  • @madyogi6164
    @madyogi6164 3 месяца назад +1

    17:15 Trek is definitely a cool bike, but still I prefer the view. The view and the speed.

  • @thatrandombikeguy
    @thatrandombikeguy 2 месяца назад +2

    Wow….Trek guys seem super excited to talk about the bike (heavy sarcasm). Probably worried they’re about to get cut along with the retail employees and SKUs 😂

  • @stephenbrown590
    @stephenbrown590 3 месяца назад +8

    "dramatically lighter".... Meh, I'm "dramatically lighter" if I have a number two before a ride, in that case 😂🚲

    • @davidkennedy4845
      @davidkennedy4845 3 месяца назад

      And only put half the amount of fluid in my bidden!

  • @roa5359
    @roa5359 3 месяца назад +2

    Strange looking contraption. I guess it’s what they do to reinvent the wheel/run out of ideas on what to do with a bike frame.

  • @edjack1993
    @edjack1993 3 месяца назад +3

    I can’t help but think that the seatpost set up is a real potential point of failure. Am sure it’s suitably reinforced but it just looks shonky. Aethos for me, thanks.

    • @JimGarlits
      @JimGarlits 3 месяца назад

      That was the first thing that stood out to me, too.

  • @kingdompilot18
    @kingdompilot18 2 месяца назад +1

    So trek released the gen 7 knowing that in like 8 months they were going to release the gen 8. I wonder when the gen 9 is going to come out.

  • @jondillon5433
    @jondillon5433 3 месяца назад +1

    Looks like you’ve a layback seatmast, stock is inline on all models. Is this correct? Did you spec a 20mm layback for the test bike?

  • @cityslacker6221
    @cityslacker6221 3 месяца назад

    what an incredible ride in Spain. Beautiful riding!

  • @scottishjason
    @scottishjason 3 месяца назад +1

    Reminds me of the Look Mondrian paint job, love the look. It’s not worth the price however.

  • @AllanClark-f5h
    @AllanClark-f5h 25 дней назад

    Hi David,
    You mentioned in the video that you'll be testing the SL model. Do you know when that'll be?

  • @treyquattro
    @treyquattro 3 месяца назад +1

    Madone to rule them all... Not for me though. I know the seat mast is safe, but it always looks like it's about to snap off. I prefer your more old school, staid, and conservative seat tube design, thanks. I'm also skeptical about Isoflow, no matter what yer man says: just how much is airflow quantitatively improved in that section of the bike, behind the head tube and in the midst of the big, messy human stirring it up?

  • @omarkreidieh3623
    @omarkreidieh3623 3 месяца назад +2

    So they thinked down the tubes and use a new carbon fiber layup but still somehow manage to keep the weight the same ? 🤔🤦🏻‍♂️ .... I cant find any advantage compared to the last gen madone

  • @MrJlopez88
    @MrJlopez88 3 месяца назад +1

    Long life to the Specialized Allez Sprint first gen

  • @avroman100
    @avroman100 Месяц назад +1

    I’m cycling for 10 years and each year I hear, 5% lighter, faster, aero. But actually there not so much difference to buy new bike each year and even 5 years. Actually my 6 years old bike was 7.5 kilos, and very fast, cost me 4k usd , today same model from same company 9 kilos and cost 6k (so where is improvement?) . Actually, there is no reason to upgrade. And someone can say disk brakes better, but they are sucks, on dry conditions they stop exactly the same, they need much more maintenance, and I don’t cycle in rain. Electric shifting also has so many problems and cost a lot of money and already had issue in competition with that gear. So, all that marketing sucks, industry trying to get our money by selling stories. After bike upgrade, I don't find too many improvements even I have now aero, disk brakes , 12 speed electronic gear, my speed is not changed, my feelings on the bikes are the same my happiness level from cycling is the same on 1k bike and on 6k bike

  • @cesar0610
    @cesar0610 2 месяца назад

    That's exactly I need to learn for selling my 2023 Emonda SL6. I ain't keeping an obsolete bike. I ain't loosing money hanging in my garage

  • @anterrickson2585
    @anterrickson2585 3 месяца назад +2

    I like what they did here to compete with the Tarmac, but I think the Emonda could have been turned into an Aethos competitor, UCI illegal light weight beast.

  • @Adam-we2bd
    @Adam-we2bd 3 месяца назад +1

    looking forward for the sl6 review

  • @philchevrier
    @philchevrier 3 месяца назад +4

    I have no regrets that I bought a gen7 last year, it's a great bike. However, that new one does look like great!

    • @davidspagnolo4870
      @davidspagnolo4870 3 месяца назад +1

      Why would you regret buying a better product?

    • @philchevrier
      @philchevrier 3 месяца назад

      @@davidspagnolo4870 So you've ridden both and can objectively say the 7 is better? Please share the details.

  • @geoffreyfaltot1006
    @geoffreyfaltot1006 23 дня назад

    Trek needs an all aluminum race bike for the entry level and recreational consumers. The weekend warriors. The kids getting into the sport. The people who don't want to panic when they get in a wreck because they just damaged their savings as well.
    They should have made the emonda from the beginning the go to all aluminum race bike. A competitor to Cannondale's CAAD series. No gimmicky junk just race geometry with conservative aesthetics.
    The madone should have ALWAYS been their Ferrari. Their developmental platform. Their top tier. Always carbon with different components and wheelsets for different price points. But no doubt their secret weapon for speed.
    Trek should have done this from the beginning. Should have stuck with it.

  • @ps3narciso
    @ps3narciso 2 месяца назад

    i am on the fence between the new tcr pro1 and the gen 8 madone sl6. which should i get? you rode both so it would be nice to share your opinion 😊

  • @davemaca
    @davemaca 3 месяца назад +1

    My CAAD 10 from 10 years ago is lighter. 20k aud for a 7 kg bike, the SL frames are nearly 9kg!

  • @CycleXplorer
    @CycleXplorer 3 месяца назад

    Comes with lifetime discount in Lidl if you take it in those colours

  • @Scottfoil10
    @Scottfoil10 2 месяца назад

    La principal razón es que antes hubo un boom de ventas en bicicletas, y al cliente se le quería convencer de que necesitaba una escaladora (emonda) y una aero para el llano (madone). Lo que el cliente no se daba cuenta es que tenia la misma bici, misma geometria, una con tubos algo mas finos y otra mas rectos con una diferencia de peso a igualdad de componentes de unos 400 grs en el mejor de los casos (dependiendo de la marca, en mi caso son 200 grs), y que para nada es determinante en su rendimiento. Ahora que hay una crisis en ventas, quieren convencer al cliente que lo mejor es tener una bici (gen 8) que "tiene lo mejor de la escaladora y la Aero" cuando es la misma bici que las anteriores. La realidad es que se trata de reducir costes.

  • @LOZUPONEJ
    @LOZUPONEJ 3 месяца назад +3

    Just combine the checkpoint and domane next to cut costs lol

    • @Philippe-ke3sk
      @Philippe-ke3sk 3 месяца назад

      And then merge this light allroad aero bike domane/checkpoint with the light aero madone. At the end one bike for everyone, and one size M/L to be in the middle😂

    • @gerrymcbride6429
      @gerrymcbride6429 3 месяца назад

      You mean the Checkmate, I think that's on the way.

    • @tweed0929
      @tweed0929 3 месяца назад

      Check. Done.

  • @georgeowbatchelor
    @georgeowbatchelor 2 месяца назад

    For sure it is the economics of cheaper to have one frame, rather than two, but still attract the same demand

  • @amavromi
    @amavromi 2 месяца назад

    how is the compliance vs TARMAC SL-8 s-works almost the same or better ?

  • @LPmaterials
    @LPmaterials 3 месяца назад +1

    There is only a 50g difference between Madone SLR9 gen 7 vs gen 8 according to their website...

    • @pablor1768
      @pablor1768 3 месяца назад +3

      Heavy Bike less aero then their Aero bike but nearly same weight… what is that 900 series carbon? Sorry Trek this is not how you will get out of the sales misery…

    • @tweed0929
      @tweed0929 3 месяца назад

      @@pablor1768 but... but... 900 is bigger number than 800! Please, buy our $17000 superbike! Pahlease!

  • @ColoCX
    @ColoCX 3 месяца назад

    how does it compare to the Cannondale Evo?

  • @pj9375
    @pj9375 3 месяца назад +8

    Bring back rim brakes and mechanical shifting. We might get reasonable rrps then. Joke at the moment

    • @tweed0929
      @tweed0929 3 месяца назад

      Amen to that.

  • @porkyparry1
    @porkyparry1 3 месяца назад

    2 Bottles, nice. Premier cru chablis up front, Pomerol bringing up the rear

  • @opgg1
    @opgg1 10 дней назад

    Why is Lidl Trek so expensive. I thought Trek was lidl on price, big on quality? Or wait..

  • @alainpfammatter8224
    @alainpfammatter8224 3 месяца назад

    As a Trek fan I am a bit disappointed. The bike is too heavy. I am curious to see the Tour Magazine Aero testing and how it compares to the tarmac.

    • @Andy_ATB
      @Andy_ATB 3 месяца назад

      A bike less than 8kg isn't heavy - and surely doesn't matter if you don't race at a high level.

  • @izylldus
    @izylldus 3 месяца назад

    Let's just agree that the only real winner here are the mechanics from teams sponsored by Trek

  • @terbennett
    @terbennett 3 месяца назад

    Let's be real. Weight has ALWAYS mattered. We were told that to convince us that disc brakes were the way to go, at a time when the masses were uncertain. Now we ride disc and weight is at the forefront again. It never left but most people were too narrow-minded to see it. Whether it's on your body or on the bike, weight will always matter to some degree. That's a lot of what we pay for when buying a bicycle.

  • @LOZUPONEJ
    @LOZUPONEJ 3 месяца назад +2

    Newer, lighter, more arrow, stiffer, faster. Always lol

    • @davidarthur
      @davidarthur  3 месяца назад

      That’s progress for you 😂

  • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
    @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 3 месяца назад

    I want those bottles/cages

  • @scottf3456
    @scottf3456 3 месяца назад

    No two ways about it that is a hot looking bike.

  • @kovar2344
    @kovar2344 3 месяца назад

    Love the Lidl paintjob. They hit the ground running with that one.

  • @gregbianchi2689
    @gregbianchi2689 3 месяца назад +14

    Hold on. Did he say dramatically faster ???? Please stop the nonsense.

    • @arthlig
      @arthlig 3 месяца назад +1

      Also "dramatically lighter", when it is barely 0.4kg going by the claimed weight (or 0.1 as presented in the video lol). Bit dramatic this guy

    • @decoherence926
      @decoherence926 3 месяца назад +3

      @@arthlig that's how he gets paid, bro. using superlatives to sell another pointless road bike when they all do the same thing.

  • @Shopsmith10er
    @Shopsmith10er Месяц назад

    Trek just leaked they'll add an electric motor. That should about cover the target market. This too 🌈

  • @jazznroll5
    @jazznroll5 3 месяца назад

    I have a trek madone 9, 2018 model, the cheaper version, rim brakes with the original isoflow, changed hanldebars to a lighter pro hanldebar, changed saddle to a selle italia lighter one, changed wheels to prime black 50mm. Weight with no pedals/bottle cages/computer = 6750 grams....and comfortable as hell.....braking not so good.....I have stocked bottom brackets and looking for better rim brakes....never gonna buy another bike.....

  • @walterlippmann4361
    @walterlippmann4361 3 месяца назад +3

    Too expensive / Don't care

    • @davidarthur
      @davidarthur  3 месяца назад

      Even the cheapest model?

  • @pumpkinmeerkat3692
    @pumpkinmeerkat3692 3 месяца назад

    fewer sizes makes choosing a size easier...🤦 that's next level

    • @davidarthur
      @davidarthur  3 месяца назад

      I think what they mean is without the overlap or closeness of sizes with the old approach there'll be less confusion when choosing the size, if that makes more sense?

    • @pumpkinmeerkat3692
      @pumpkinmeerkat3692 3 месяца назад +2

      @@davidarthur I think that makes sense but FEWER sizes overall is a bad thing - it's frustrating to hear it spun around like that in the marketing. A greater overall range across sizes is cause to celebrate though

  • @TheChancerdog1
    @TheChancerdog1 3 месяца назад +1

    My 10s 5.9 is so much different and I would take it 💯 over that monstrosity

  • @ΣκιστειςβάρβαροςαποτηνΣκωτία

    7.3? Weight without pedals my scott addict without pedals its 7.340 with aluminum wheels handle Bar and bike for 1900 bucks like wtf? 10k bikes become rubbish all those bullshits about aerodynamics its just marketing

  • @guywelch656
    @guywelch656 3 месяца назад +2

    Bring back old school bikes with rim brakes, this is complete and utter garbage

  • @kippen64
    @kippen64 3 месяца назад +1

    Not my cup of tea. Still enjoyed the review.

  • @HmongMWCyclists
    @HmongMWCyclists 3 месяца назад +1

    Trek and their sales gimmick. That's why I ditched Trek. So ugly.

  • @xkpm
    @xkpm 3 месяца назад +1

    They stole the Look color scheme and treatment...

  • @Bill-uf6os
    @Bill-uf6os 3 месяца назад

    Lottery winner. Only.

  • @Flashback_Jack
    @Flashback_Jack 3 месяца назад

    LOL, that bike weighs only 150 grams less than the Aeroad CF SLX8 (7.48kg) which isn't even Canyon's top spec race bike. Screw Trek.

  • @flipper2gv
    @flipper2gv 3 месяца назад +112

    The previous Madone being a lot more striking might become a collector's item.

    • @chad85100
      @chad85100 3 месяца назад +19

      Hope so. I just got (June 5th) a 2024 Madone SLR9 Mads Peterson ultra chromatic.

    • @mmurmurjohnson2368
      @mmurmurjohnson2368 3 месяца назад +8

      An old Madone and Venge is a sweet quiver, not into these Ozempic bikes at all

    • @Rainmaker0007
      @Rainmaker0007 3 месяца назад +2

      I love my green slr gen6.

    • @kreed4
      @kreed4 3 месяца назад +6

      Agree. Much prefer the gen 7. And it’s definitely more aero/faster on the flats than gen 8

    • @HeyWattsUpCycling
      @HeyWattsUpCycling 3 месяца назад +5

      its the fastest bike on the market and best looking no question.

  • @axuh382
    @axuh382 3 месяца назад +87

    I hope this bike comes for sale to Lidl near me!

    • @tweed0929
      @tweed0929 3 месяца назад

      You can pick yours off from local USPS office near you!

    • @leedorney
      @leedorney 2 месяца назад +1

      In that bargain isle 😁

  • @muratmustafa4532
    @muratmustafa4532 3 месяца назад +13

    Well Trek did not disappoint. The new bike is still heavier and more expensive than the competition! Such a shame...

  • @stizz19
    @stizz19 3 месяца назад +69

    This bike with the fancy paint job costs up to $22,000 CAD, that is ridiculous.

    • @ferventheat
      @ferventheat 3 месяца назад +5

      My £200 second hand Giant TCR 2 with full duraace from 17 years ago weighs about 0.5kg more than a new £22k bike? "Ridiculous!" Indeed.

    • @GregJungwirth
      @GregJungwirth 3 месяца назад +11

      It makes the S-Works SL8 Tarmac at $18,000 CAD look like an absolute deal! 😂😂😂

    • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
      @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 3 месяца назад +2

      That's how much the last NEW car I bought cost.

    • @harlan3103
      @harlan3103 3 месяца назад +4

      Why go for the top tier version? the SL (105/Ultegra) version is far better choice IMO

    • @suminshizzles6951
      @suminshizzles6951 3 месяца назад +6

      This is a total and utter rip off. They are hoping that fools who part with their money will indeed part with their money as they are fools. Research and developement is frqeuntly quoted by peole who buy these expenisve bikes , as to why they are so expensive. This theory goes out the window when you compare how much car or motorcycle you can get for 22k.
      But the real crime is the fact that the bike is ugly and odd looking. It is filled with gimmicks that actually look dangerous and are not even arodynamic. Dont telll trek that.

  • @saphireg8094
    @saphireg8094 3 месяца назад +44

    Outgoing aero Madone looks ages better

  • @jmurphy3350
    @jmurphy3350 3 месяца назад +9

    Absolute joke.

  • @diegoeleazar9154
    @diegoeleazar9154 2 месяца назад +6

    Bike manufacturers hit the wall on improvements.

  • @singyuchan5447
    @singyuchan5447 3 месяца назад +27

    Can’t watch the trek guys boast about the bike while keeping a straight face knowing this is because of SKUs

    • @terbennett
      @terbennett 3 месяца назад +5

      Facts 100%

    • @levipicard7685
      @levipicard7685 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes, it is about SKUs, but I've ridden the last few gens of emonda and Madone and the new one really is fast and just feels nice to ride. The balance of stiffness, compliance and speed is well done and the fact that they were able to reduce SKUs without too much compromise is still impressive

  • @benbos1925
    @benbos1925 3 месяца назад +4

    They should have gone with a new name: ADEMON same lettering new name

  • @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv
    @FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv 3 месяца назад +32

    At Trek HQ:
    Boss: We need to increase the bottom line. The Madone is our highest margin model. We need to sell more Madones!
    Guy: Yeah.. how can we sell more Madones?
    Accountant1: A lot of people are buying Emondas rather than Madones
    Logistics guy: We are buried in different SKUs / sizes / paint colors.
    Logistics guy 2: If we simplify our SKU range, we can reduce inventory costs by 10% and also manufacturing and development costs even more
    Manufacturing manager: yeah the factory scheduler says we'd save money, and having less molds would save a ton..
    Guy: oh guys I have an idea. If we eliminate the Emonda model then the people who would have bought and Emonda will buy a Madone!
    Logistics guys: yeah.. and like we said...
    Guy 2: We will sell more madones!!!
    Boss: Brilliant idea Guy 1 and 2. Let's do it. Hey engineers, make the Madone a bit lighter and say that we combined the models. Show them charts and stuff,
    Engineering mgr: but.....
    Marketing: Yeah they love charts! Let's do it.

    • @MrJlopez88
      @MrJlopez88 3 месяца назад +8

      The accountant need more lines 😂

    • @tweed0929
      @tweed0929 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MrJlopez88 nobody cares what an accountant says. His job is to... COUNT 🤣

    • @jondillon5433
      @jondillon5433 2 месяца назад +2

      @@FT__Bicycling_____-sc7yv it’s like you were at the meeting….

    • @yourstruly2337
      @yourstruly2337 Месяц назад

      You are that Guy 1. Admit it!!! 😅

  • @niklaskristensson2231
    @niklaskristensson2231 3 месяца назад +8

    Cant afford..but nice to watch progress. Nice video, David! Keep it up🎉

  • @jrnlundsgaard5896
    @jrnlundsgaard5896 3 месяца назад +3

    Like specialized. Low cost production and premium prices to costumers combined with bull shit marketing. It is a wonder that costumers keep buying these brands. All the claims with Venge and old Madone now seams hollow because of the one bike to rule them all concept. I don't belive all the claims and marketing + reviews any more. You simply have to do the test your self.

  • @bigwave_dave8468
    @bigwave_dave8468 3 месяца назад +3

    I still can't get behind the mechanically stupid seat tube junction. It's a gimmick that won't stand the test of time and makes the fitment more limited.

  • @adamc547
    @adamc547 2 месяца назад +2

    It is NOT DRAMATICALLY lighter - total BS marketing. Website states the SLR 7 in a medium is little over 16lbs- was in trek shop and that bike weighs over 17- roughly 17.3lbs

  • @Jessikitty2020
    @Jessikitty2020 2 месяца назад +2

    Keeping my emonda SL6 pro. Carbon frame, carbon wheels, mechanical ultegra and rim brakes. 16 pounds with tubes.

  • @ianslater4091
    @ianslater4091 3 месяца назад +3

    My missis says, it looks like an Airfix model put together wrongly. I think she is right 😂

  • @rolffuchs2737
    @rolffuchs2737 3 месяца назад +4

    So it is not lighter than the old model and not more aero?

  • @davidkennedy4845
    @davidkennedy4845 3 месяца назад +3

    If buyers keep paying savagely high prices for bikes, the manufacturers will keep on making them. Lets face it, the majority of those who can afford to buy them, will never realise the apparent tech advantages anywhere near in full. Remember, the pros don't pay for the bikes they ride in the grand tours. Cycling used to be a sport for the working class. Manufacturers have changed this to a sport/recreation for the upper class. Buy your next bike with your head, not with your ego.

    • @JimGarlits
      @JimGarlits 3 месяца назад +1

      Well yeah, there's that. But cycling is an industry, too. All of the R&D goes into the high-end bikes, and the tech eventually filters down to reasonably priced models over time. I'm okay with this. I would never pay thousands of dollars for one of these bikes, but they're fun to look at and see them reviewed. I'd be afraid to scratch the paint brushing past one in a bike shop! Still cool, though. I think that most of those buying these can afford them, and they can spend their money how they like. I feel for the guy (well, his wife) who can't afford it but buys it anyway!

  • @axelmogr
    @axelmogr 3 месяца назад +7

    That's one fugly bike, gen 7 is gonna massively appreciate in value now. Lets cut the BS this is a cost-cutting move. Nobody asked for a skinnier/less aero Madone.

  • @WanderingSword
    @WanderingSword 3 месяца назад +3

    "dramatically faster, dramatically lighter", pro bs marketer in full-send mode.

    • @tweed0929
      @tweed0929 3 месяца назад

      The same speed and the same weight for newer generation is the drama, indeed. A tragedy, I'd say.

  • @rodriguezahr
    @rodriguezahr 2 месяца назад +1

    The C cluster / seat post design looks so odd and unstable. Also too busy. Simple is beautiful guys, simple is beautiful and with that cluster your bike is now UGLY.

  • @ruisantos5746
    @ruisantos5746 3 месяца назад +3

    When you do the comparison review Dogma F vs SL8 vs new Madone, remember to compare them with the same tires and wheels 😉👍

  • @BobMcAllan
    @BobMcAllan 3 месяца назад +2

    What a bike! It's light, it's aero, it's stiff, 900 OCLV Carbon (??).. it's everything I want in a bike.. wait, how much? Meh.

  • @PeakTorque
    @PeakTorque 3 месяца назад +1

    An underwhelming looker with the marketing hole.

  • @tonyd5111
    @tonyd5111 3 месяца назад +18

    I think it looks horrendous around the seat tube area. Does not inspire confidence at all. Frankenstein monster of a bike.

  • @rli6951
    @rli6951 3 месяца назад +1

    the real reason is the emonda is such a F-ing slow bike. you feel it even doing 30km/h.... really slow.... and the madone is super heavy....

  • @C22RLD
    @C22RLD 3 месяца назад +2

    I don’t trust their aero claims with these at all

  • @SomeTrader74
    @SomeTrader74 Месяц назад +1

    True, some other bikes might be a bit lighter but I'd take aero and compliance (comfort) any day.

  • @swanauto47
    @swanauto47 3 месяца назад +1

    Still not as fast as my direct mount brake Émonda SLR

  • @tubbytoast2
    @tubbytoast2 3 месяца назад +1

    More trek BS , its all just a cost cutting exercise, less models , less range , less tooling, same sales!?! Bling bling more profit

  • @buster.keaton
    @buster.keaton 3 месяца назад +9

    Trek should just include two top tube stickers with the bike, one that says "Madone" and the other "Emonda"... then you can choose which bike you want it to be. 🙂

  • @leedorney
    @leedorney 2 месяца назад +1

    No Trek, the upper seat DID break in a pro race so, no it's a stupid design! I wouldn't have one if you gave me one..

  • @bravodelta6883
    @bravodelta6883 3 месяца назад +2

    I predict a drop in sales.