As someone who has both the Skorp and the SU, if you have either one of them, you don't need the other imo, at least in the way I play paper TDs, ie sitting at the back and sniping. In terms of raw stats, the Skorpion has better gun handling and mobility, whereas the SU has higher alpha and is more stealthy. To a certain degree you can get the tank stats of the SU on the Skorpion using equipment and vice versa.
@@forgozsamoly nah, you may get better results by bushwanking, but any turreted TarD is still more "fun" to play as a support med ... also allows for the occasional huge game as a result (and yes, quite a few HE aware obliterations along the way)
Love your vids Daki, instant watch when they pop into my notifications. Wanted to mention your sound gate might be a poke too high, past couple vids your voice drops out for a second or two. Thanks for the laughs!
Maby i am just unable to find it but id love to see your take on the Ka-Ri. Thers always so much to learn watching you. Great video, keep it up. Very deserving of all the great things coming to you.
It's my most played TD with 2k battles and I retired it from service with a clean 59% win rate which is 4% higher than my average. It's easily one of the best tier8 premium TDs in the game and really easy to play well. The only real downsides are lack of armor and mediocre mobility, BUT, in WoT tier8 armor is usually placebic anyway and the mobility is adequate enough to get about in a way that's not annoying. I wouldn't even mention the limited turret arch because tbh I've rarely found it a problem and 99% of the time it's just not. The positives are far greater than the negatives. 520 alpha with either 240 or 320 pen, and a 660 alpha HE bomb. Shell velocity, aiming, accuracy and dispersion are all decent, not amazing but certainly decent. DPM is great when pimped out, and it's really noob friendly thanks to having a reload of around 10 seconds which can be used as a timer for going unspotted against most tanks, plus the camo value and low profile size means it's sneaky so doesn't get spotted and wrecked anywhere as often as a noob with a big low camo Skorp for example. Great credit farmer too. Standard pen gets the job done most of the time taking big alpha chomps out of enemy tanks, but for those occasions you have a tough nut to crack, having 320mm HEAT is very nice indeed and great value for your credits unlike a lot of tier8 premiums that take the big credits hit for a premium shell that DOESN'T pen the enemy tank anyway lol. All in all, an amazing TD.
I don't have the SU-130PM, but I have never minded fighting against them, sure sometimes the camo and high alpha can be irritating, but for whatever reason, most SU players seem to inexplicably miss or bounce the most random shots, which I don't mind taking advantage of fighting them :) Very informative video, thank you
SU has more troll silhouette that can easily make a shell pass through it's center mass and somehow miss especially when shooting from the side. Skorpion is so much bigger and fatter target. Both tanks play very similarly tho.. I think I'll get the SU since it's the one on sale right now.
@@latvius7600 it's fun. You don't have to play the same tanks the same way because weegee said so. Besides, it's a really good trading/awareness practice
Good alpha and camo. For me skorpion is better good mobilty, more accurate gun and full rotate turret. Gold rounds have big decrease on 500m but apcr are faster than heat rounds. I want to see video about skorp on your channel.
The 130PM is probably my favourite TD, certainly my main go-to when I need to have good games. Much better than the Skorp, gun is so much more reliable, the Hand of Stalin makes snapping worth doing whereas you can aim all day in the Skorp and miss every shot. About the only drawback compared to the Skorp is if it has to climb hills.
I prefer Skorpion, as IMO you can play aggro a lot easier with Skorp than SU, Skorp has better mobility, gun handling, and has a fully rotatable turret.
From my experience the gun just trolls way too much despite stats not hinting towards it, the notorious SU moments. This coming after more than 300 battles, I'd take the Skorp 9 out of 10 times just because of the gun
I find the Su gun to be far to random to be a good sniper i always play mid ground as i hate sitting at the back hoping some muppet comes out in the wide open for me to get a decent shot because sniping at hatches at distance is a no go for this thing
Strange watching you play a no armour bush TarD ... I despise those high alpha red line warrior camping monkeys so much that I find myself almost wanting you to get full penned by a skybot virus 😁
The M-IV-Y has 240mm of turret side armor for some reason. That's why the shot at 3:10 bounced
As someone who has both the Skorp and the SU, if you have either one of them, you don't need the other imo, at least in the way I play paper TDs, ie sitting at the back and sniping. In terms of raw stats, the Skorpion has better gun handling and mobility, whereas the SU has higher alpha and is more stealthy. To a certain degree you can get the tank stats of the SU on the Skorpion using equipment and vice versa.
Agree
Skorp fits better in current meta, but all in all both are fun who loves bushcamping.
@@forgozsamoly nah, you may get better results by bushwanking, but any turreted TarD is still more "fun" to play as a support med ... also allows for the occasional huge game as a result (and yes, quite a few HE aware obliterations along the way)
skorps only downside is imo the terrible camo value
SU ist also faster.
Love your vids Daki, instant watch when they pop into my notifications.
Wanted to mention your sound gate might be a poke too high, past couple vids your voice drops out for a second or two.
Thanks for the laughs!
Thanks for the tip!
@@Dakillzor of course!
Maby i am just unable to find it but id love to see your take on the Ka-Ri. Thers always so much to learn watching you. Great video, keep it up. Very deserving of all the great things coming to you.
It's my most played TD with 2k battles and I retired it from service with a clean 59% win rate which is 4% higher than my average. It's easily one of the best tier8 premium TDs in the game and really easy to play well. The only real downsides are lack of armor and mediocre mobility, BUT, in WoT tier8 armor is usually placebic anyway and the mobility is adequate enough to get about in a way that's not annoying. I wouldn't even mention the limited turret arch because tbh I've rarely found it a problem and 99% of the time it's just not.
The positives are far greater than the negatives. 520 alpha with either 240 or 320 pen, and a 660 alpha HE bomb. Shell velocity, aiming, accuracy and dispersion are all decent, not amazing but certainly decent. DPM is great when pimped out, and it's really noob friendly thanks to having a reload of around 10 seconds which can be used as a timer for going unspotted against most tanks, plus the camo value and low profile size means it's sneaky so doesn't get spotted and wrecked anywhere as often as a noob with a big low camo Skorp for example.
Great credit farmer too. Standard pen gets the job done most of the time taking big alpha chomps out of enemy tanks, but for those occasions you have a tough nut to crack, having 320mm HEAT is very nice indeed and great value for your credits unlike a lot of tier8 premiums that take the big credits hit for a premium shell that DOESN'T pen the enemy tank anyway lol. All in all, an amazing TD.
I don't have the SU-130PM, but I have never minded fighting against them, sure sometimes the camo and high alpha can be irritating, but for whatever reason, most SU players seem to inexplicably miss or bounce the most random shots, which I don't mind taking advantage of fighting them :) Very informative video, thank you
red-line right-clicking tourist TarDs are part of the natural in game balance ...
Yep i get you :D. I feel like this tank has a personal thing against me sometimes. Gun drives me crazy here and there :D.
SU has more troll silhouette that can easily make a shell pass through it's center mass and somehow miss especially when shooting from the side. Skorpion is so much bigger and fatter target. Both tanks play very similarly tho.. I think I'll get the SU since it's the one on sale right now.
I get bored sitting in the back but I am not good enough to play up front so I just don't play it anymore.
just try playing in the front, sure you'll do bad at first but if you put your thought into the game you will learn
@@supershid464 Why? I have almost every premium tank. Why try and play something that wasn't intended to play up front and "make" it work.
@@latvius7600 it's fun. You don't have to play the same tanks the same way because weegee said so. Besides, it's a really good trading/awareness practice
Relocate, relocate, relocate! That's how you play fast glass cannons!
Good alpha and camo. For me skorpion is better good mobilty, more accurate gun and full rotate turret. Gold rounds have big decrease on 500m but apcr are faster than heat rounds. I want to see video about skorp on your channel.
SU is good for getting the 3x hp of vehicle mission for 260.
I assume you mean 5x, because that's the one for the 260
@_riphim yup, 5x. My bad.
The 130PM is probably my favourite TD, certainly my main go-to when I need to have good games. Much better than the Skorp, gun is so much more reliable, the Hand of Stalin makes snapping worth doing whereas you can aim all day in the Skorp and miss every shot. About the only drawback compared to the Skorp is if it has to climb hills.
I prefer Skorpion, as IMO you can play aggro a lot easier with Skorp than SU, Skorp has better mobility, gun handling, and has a fully rotatable turret.
That SU shot across at the other SU ,looked way above and it hit …? Okay ?
That's because the other guy wasn't peeking behind the rock, he was climbing the hill behind. That's how the complete miss turned into a hit
@ ahh, makes sense . Ty
It's a great tank for Frontline defence.
*sees afk tank*
"Free farm"
*arty finds him*
"Free farm ish"
*CC rng turned off*
"No free farm"
From my experience the gun just trolls way too much despite stats not hinting towards it, the notorious SU moments. This coming after more than 300 battles, I'd take the Skorp 9 out of 10 times just because of the gun
Su 130PM or Skorpion? 🤔🤔🤔
Skorp
I prefer the SU.
Su great cammo bad gun handling....Scorp bad cammo great gun handling..best thing they both make good credits.
I like my Skorp much better than the SU. The SU gun trolls me so hard.
@@pazuzu_666 SU.....one of the tanks that will probably make you break keyboard,monitor or maus😅
I love this tank. Scorpion also
I find the Su gun to be far to random to be a good sniper i always play mid ground as i hate sitting at the back hoping some muppet comes out in the wide open for me to get a decent shot because sniping at hatches at distance is a no go for this thing
It would be better if you broadcast the matches of tanks against higher tiers if possible.
i love you bro
Thank you Daki.
Wargaming marketing is just genius.
Yes Su-130 is a beast with a little luck 👍
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Will you remove my ban in twitch I miss your streams and your skills.
this is really one great wot blitz review.......
Ty
Su-130PM is by far my favorite premium T8 tank overall.
6:20
i clicked because i thought this was a skill video
#MakeTriangleGamingGreatAgain #KappaPride
Ka-ri >> SU and Skorp
“Cough” SHPTK “Cough”
I m only one stupid who changed SU130PM for something else?🤣🤣
dat video copy from skill, shame
Playing live games ia copy? Thats crazy
Strange watching you play a no armour bush TarD ... I despise those high alpha red line warrior camping monkeys so much that I find myself almost wanting you to get full penned by a skybot virus 😁
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Day 10 of asking for a Type 5 Heavy video
For the algorithm 🙃
I see Daki and I click