some people have been saying this but the school is split into royal vs rebels not villains so hunters and Ashlyn's relationship is taboo since she's royal and he's rebel etc
Ella cleaned the fire place so her step sisters added cinder to her name to mock her due to the cinders still burning in the fireplace. Cinderella. Ash is also in a fireplace, Lyn is also a name, thus Ashlyn. Lyn possibly also a reference to lint? Ella means Fairy Maiden so that's obvious while Lyn means pretty/from the flax(flower) hill. That's probably going too deep though XP.
In the OG novel, Cinder-ella was a name given by her stepmother to represent all the times she's been covered in Cinder by tending the fire and the rest of the house. Ash-lynn fits perfectly.
You know actually the name Cinderella is just the anglicised name for the character. The German brothers Grimm (also the name of the headmaster and his brother) wrote the story and the original name was Aschenputtel (Asche = Cinder). When you watched EAH in german they just used Aschenputtel as name because its more to the Original story of the Brothers Grimm. Or Charles Perrault with an similar story Cendrillon (also Cinder) The Story and the character first got the name Cinderella after Disney adapted it.
So, a few lore things to note: Ashlynn Ella and Hunter’s relationship has to be kept secret because of societal norms. Ashlynn, being a royal, is expected to marry a prince someday. Meanwhile, Hunter is considered both a commoner and a rebel (for not wanting to hunt animals like he’s supposed to). Also, I’d like to point out that as the next generational huntsman, he actually plays the role in both the Snow White and Little Red Riding Hood stories. Cedar was not born traditionally, she was carved out of wood like Pinocchio originally was and granted life by the Blue Haired Fairy - no awkward or painful births involved. However, the whole lying, nose-growing thing won’t happen for her until later in life, so for now she has been cursed by the fairy to only tell the truth. Cerise has to hide her ears because her very existence is forbidden. Her parents’ romance goes against the very idea of destiny, and Cerise having the physical trait of wolf ears is clear proof of that. No one else can learn that she’s part wolf or else they’d find out about her family’s secret. And to make matters worse, she’s actually destined to face off against her older sister as the big bad wolf in her story. And lastly, Kitty is a trouble-maker, but not necessarily out of bad intentions. She’s just super passionate about following her destiny as the next Cheshire Cat (a character who is very mischievous in general)
In the first book, there's a really sad prologue where Raven is watching the previous years legacy day and she sees an evil witch's daughter signing through her tears. It's also sad, because the narrotar mentions how she's wearing her favrioute lilac sandals under her black witches robe. She would never get to wear lilac again. 😢
i really like that scene!! it shows raven isn’t the first one to not like her story, and also isn’t the first child of an evil character to not be evil
Meanwhile Apple's problem is that "Ohhhhhh, she has white hair 😢😢, Oh no, she needs glasses to read" Like Raven has seen the injustices of this system and saw a victim of them, meanwhile Apple gets a Disney romcom main girl 'flaw'
@@baalgodofrain i've been reading the books, and yea, Apple does come off as a mary sue, so i can understand why some people don't like her in that regard. but i really like how the books gave her some depth with her backstory about falling in the well when she was young. you can understand where she's coming from while still disagreeing with her.
For a bit of lore explanation: the school isn’t split into heroes and villains, it’s split into royals and rebels. So the royals are all the heroes of their stories yes, but the rebels aren’t all the villains. Like Hunter is the son of the huntsman in Little Red Riding Hood (a good guy), but he isn’t royalty so he’s a rebel. Same with Red Riding Hood’s daughter, and Pinocchio’s daughter etc. Hope that helps!
small correction, some people are defined as rebels bc they don't want to follow their destinies which is why raven is considered head of the rebels and apple is head of the royals. an example of this is the episode where [*****SPOILERS AHEAD*****] ashlynn confesses her love for hunter despite him not being in her story, and declares herself a rebel so that they can be together.
@@placeholdername7797 no they are right anyone who isnt born of a disney princess/prince is considered a rebel, ashlynn confessing is her ditching her royal bloodline.
@@placeholdername7797 That is a big spoiler for him since he reads these comments as that was a twist that (probably) wasn't expected. Please edit your comment to remove that.
Thank you for explaining this! Also, the royals typically all have happily-ever-afters, but the rebels don’t (whether it’s a BAD bad ending, or just a neutral-ish one)
According to the book, not only can Cedar not lie, she is forced to tell the truth. At one point a group of students bullied her by asking her embarrassing and personal questions and she had to answer them
I even remember her being a social outcast & "the last one to know things" When she questioned Raven about her crush on Dexter In the third book- Raven didn't answer and avoided the topic altogether but had it been Maddie or Cerise she would be an open book lol!
I’m gonna explain Cerise’s (Little Red’s daughter) situation. Because her mom is the hero and her father is the wolf from their tale it’s seen as rebellious that they fell in love. Also I’m gonna say this because you’ll only know some of this info from the books. BUT! In their version of the story, they never really did anything they were supposed to in the tale. Everything was staged so that both the Wolves and the Hoods (it’s two different clans) would assume they did their job right. After all-it’s blasphemy to not complete your role in your story
I just assumed that there was propably a more kid friendly explanation for their relationship but thanks for actually stating the true info. It is very interesting to know!
Yeah, all the tales are actually just a play in eah universe, if raven's mother just have played her role poisoned snow white and everything she'll have a decent life like cerise's father. But since she done things beyond her story(she almost killed the sleeping beauty and also cursed the wonderland), she was inprisioned in the mirror
@@blank68503well not really a play. It is their life but once their story is over they are free to continue their own lives. The reason the evil queen was imprisoned was because she crossed over stories and changed them by becoming the villain.
To explain the Royal vs Rebel distinction, since nobody seems to be getting it right: Royals- want to stay "loyal" to their story and follow their destiny Rebels- don't want to follow their destiny This is how you get people like Raven (and later some other people, but I won't spoil) who are technically royalty, but are Rebels, and people like Faybelle (daughter of the thorn fairy from the sleeping beauty) who are villains of their story but considered Royals because they want to follow their story (Hopefully this makes sense, English is not my first language 😅)
Yes! Thank you! I’ve often come across fics and such that have ‘royals’ and ‘rebels’ be defined as the “rich’ and the ‘poor’, which is really frustrating bc that’s literally not what ever after high is about at all.
You're wrong but not totally royal side conteigns only royals people who are loyal of their stories! 🚨🛑Spoiler Alert🛑🚨 For example the Swan girl (sorry i forgot her name) is a rebel but she wants to be a royal! Because she's a "villain" And her story have a "bad end"
Ashlynn Ella’s name is a reference to the German version of Cinderella (Aschenputl) and to the fact that in the story the nickname Cinderella came from the stepsisters mocking her for sleeping by the cinders of the fireplace and ending up covered in soot and ashes.
Here’s a little info on kitty’s disappearing power. When she disappears with a smile she goes into something like a limbo pocket dimension that the Cheshire Cat can access to go to places faster. It was mentioned in one of the books that detailed what certain characters did the summer before their current legacy year. Also I gotta mention that kitty and Lizzie hearts (the red queen’s daughter) can hear the narrators, they just choose to ignore them. It’s a wonderland thing
lizzie cant hear them, for some reason only maddie and kitty can. in the third book lizzie seems like she acknowledges the presence of a narrator but can’t actually hear them (and also, tiny nitpick, the red queen is a separate character. lizzie is the daughter of the queen of hearts)
@@cheese3123 thanks for the clarification about the narrators, It’s been a while since I’ve read it so I could be wrong. Also I’ve assumed the red queen and the queen of hearts being the same person cause I’ve always thought those titles were interchangeable.
It’s not about cerise being ashamed that she’s part werewolf or the fact that her dad is one either. I think it’s more of the fact that traditionally, the villain is the werewolf. That’s how the story is written. But in Ever After High, the secret is that the story is essentially wrong & little red riding hood & the wolf got married. So revealing she’s part wolf would be a contradiction to the story & her legacy
It’s her parents’ secret rlly, she’s just also keeping it too because it’s taboo to go against the story. But it does mean that ppl have previously gone against the predetermined story and have been completely fine, more than fine rlly so ye
In Alice in Wonderland story, the Cheshire cat is actually "neutral", he doesnt care enough to help, but he does LOVE having fun on other peoples disgrace, and obviously in Ever After High, one's disgrace can be another's happiness
I can’t be the only person who is very confused and annoyed that the Cheshire Cat in this world is a female When the Cheshire Cat is canonically a MALE in the story and several ppl call him a male so like… What’s the reason why EAH’s version of Cheshire Cat is a woman
@@KendallChantelle-ff3ueIt’s because in this version they’re not the original Cheshire Cat They’re a descendant The original is a male EAH’s lineage goes years before
One of the major themes of the show is that the system not only is broken but has been broken for a long time. Cerise Hood, a.k.a. Little Red 2.0, is proof of this, being the daughter of Little Red and the Big Bad Wolf, obviously a romance that goes against their story. Ashlynn and Hunter are another example, though a milder one, of being of different politic affiliations (Ashlynn part of the Royals who want their destinies and Hunter part of the Rebels who don't). But there are a ton more to come: people circumventing their destinites, manipulating them, fighting them, changing them. Raven is just the latest and loudest in a long time of dissenters.
Also, a little explanation for Kitty Cheshire: As you already picked up, she's the daughter of the Cheshire Cat in Alice in Wonderland, where her role in the story is to create chaos. She takes a lot of pride in that and so messes with literally everybody. Still kind of a jerk, but she believes she's destined to be that jerk and so just kind of embraces it.
Since Matthew’s seen the episode about Cerise Hood now, here’s a bit of context. In the book it is explained that over the generations, the setting of the red riding hood story slowly turned into a village full of paranoid people, and a wood nearby full of angry werewolves. Raven talks to little red riding hood and she explains that on “that day” (the day where she played the story out) she fell in love with the awkward teenage werewolf that was trying to fulfill his destiny but didn’t want to hurt her. In the version of Red Roding Hood that EAH is based off of, the wolf doesn’t eat the grandma, just locks her in a closet, and the hunter just scared the wolf off. After Cerise’s parents “lived the story” they started to secretly date, because the “Hoods” (humans) in their town hate the “Wolfs” (werewolves).
Cerise story is super important because it shows you that their are characters who aren’t following their destiny already. Which means raven not following her destiny won’t cause the world to end or her story to go away.
I love Cerise so much because she literally is proof that nothing happens to those who dare to defy their fates, as she is the daughter of both the hero and the villain of the same story. In fact, Red Riding Hood and Big Bad Wolf are the very first Rebels. Their relationship comes from when they were students at Ever After... and they are just adorable with one another.
Not only Cerise's parents but also the fact that the evil queen did some things that weren't meant for her to do is also a big sign that these destinies are not really what they are supposed to have. Now that I think about it, their parents' generation have so many good examples that none of the characters even took a second to think about and looked over it and the fact that Raven also knows about cerise but still didn't think about it like that.
@@winxclubflora8446 Cerise’s parents are the big bad Wolf and little red riding hood. The big bad Wolf is supoosed to be the villain and little red riding hood the Main character. Their secret is that they actually fell in love which is “against” the expectations of the system at ever after high where the story isn’t supposed to be like that but they went against the system and nothing happened but they are now only a happy family. So her parents are the big examples of the fact that following your own destiny will not affect their stories nor the characters like the principal goes around and says in order to have his way.
Why do I love Mathew not making a big deal over Cerise being part wolf not remembering the whole “villains and royals can’t be together” when Little Red and the Big Bad Wolf got together and had children- XD
What I find to be even worse is that even some *Royals* don't want to fallow their 'destiny' but are still forced to just because that's how the system works, it's not just the *Rebels*. I'd say a good majority of the students don't want to fallow their 'destiny' and yet they're still forced to just because of the words of a few people in power.
@@princesserika9899 In one of the EAH books, Duchess is a black swan unlike Odette and is more of a villainous/rebellious type rather. Next Top Villain its called.
I think, if you read the books, Cerise's parents fell in love in high school. When it came time to perform their story, they acted it pretty accurately (minus the grandma eating), until it came time for the Wolf to be "axed". Little Red had hidden a smoke bomb in her basket, which she set off, faking a fire. It got everyone to flee, and ended the story without anyone getting seriously hurt.
I always saw Apple white as that gaslighted kid by her mom, she's not someone bad but her mom definitely is and is doing her best to make Apple the next Queen
Fr. I know a girl like this irl. Her parents were HARDCORE religious and extremely, extremely bigoted. Just to give an idea of how sheltered this poor girl was, I'm an alternative/darkly inclined sort of person in terms of how I dress and she was literally afraid of me at first (I know this because she later admitted it to me herself). However, I've gotten to know her more since and she has definitely gotten better, now that she's out of her parents' house and has real-world experience she's slowly unlearning all the horrific things they taught her. I've seen this firsthand and I absolutely believe Apple is capable of change as well
I love how worked up Mathew gets over a kids show- not saying that the system isn’t messed up, it definitely is, but it’s just so funny how it looks like he’s about to defend these characters with his life.
the reason raven is “selfish” in apple’s eyes is because they have all been told that if raven didn’t sign the book, her story would go poof, implying that all the snow white characters would cease to exist. and then, she’s also inspiring others to choose their own desitinies, which apple sees as endangering all the stories and students. we know that they didn’t go poof when she didn’t sign but headmaster grimm keeps telling apple that it will eventually happen so in apples eyes raven is risking lives and encouraging others to do the same so that she can be happy. OF COURSE raven is totally right to want a better life and i’d personally side with the rebels too because like you said it’s practically slavery but there’s a bit more nuance to the royals side then you give it credit for, it’s not that they just want their happily ever afters at the expense of others’ happiness it’s that they’ve been told that if they don’t follow the system, everyone will cease to exist. again, i’d be team raven too but apple isn’t just a villain, she has been manipulated and genuinely cares for the safety of her classmates, including raven :)
@@hollowwoods7130 Yea, she's repeated about her happily ever after more than she has about the ceasing to exist, this makes me think she's just using it as an excuse because she knows nearly everyone (who doesn't side with Raven and expressed that) will believe and side with her.
Building on what other said, if that was her sole reason to think Raven is selfish, which would be somewhat understandable, she *wouldn't* be rubing in her face how she is going to be miserable. And maybe also tune down the "my life is going to be amazing" around someone who's life needs to suck for hers to be good (as planned at least). Apple is just written to be annoying to a degree, and that is veryyyyy clear with the way she express herself. I don't really think she is malicious, she just comes of as obnoxious so its understandable why he reacts so strongly 😂 I AM excited to see how he reacts to Apple's growth.
I think it never comes up in the show but Raven is the daughter of the Evil queen AND the Good king. And he was very sweet and loving and that's why Raven is so selfless and kind despite her mother and her destiny.
I just want to let you know that Apple does get a lot of character development over time, but I still highly recommend the books P/S Her name is Ashlynn because of “Ash” since it related to “Cinder” like Cinderella
The sad thing that in the wonderland special apple stopped raven from straight up killing courtly jester, bc she knew it wasn't raven but in dragon games she wanted her to be evil again? To a point where she freed THE EVIL QUEEN?
She NEVER get character development in the serie,she literally understand than change AGAIN mind in EVERY sigle episode and movie,over and over till the cancellation. Rewatch all and you will notice she NEVER understand rebels cause she get back to the original idea of her all over again.
@@Vici.Ritt_ when u pay attention to details, it makes a little sense - the headmaster says in apple's tale that she HAS to stop raven and do everything to fulfil her destiny and then, when she meets the EQ she doesn't want to free her, but upon hearing her say that she failed that one simple task she gets obviously upset and does what she does. it's a sad, but cool parallel
Mat's point about the royals seeing the rebels stories and freaking out is kinda funny, cus that's almost exactly what happens when the Storybook of Legends disappears, and they all go into each other's stories.. Apple gets pricked and falls asleep at Briar's thing and she has to save her, and that's when Apple finally understands why some people hate their destiny (or at least why Briar was so upset about it earlier in that arc)
I’m not unhappy you’re going off on apple. I’m actually relieved that you voice the things that make me angry and frustrated too so I know someone else also has this experience. I relate. Thanks!!
I believe the issue about Cerise is not her being half wolf, but that the union of a villian and a protagonist is either forbidden or controversial (maybe it can get both her parents in big trouble) Also it might affect her destiny because she is the daughter of both the wolf and the red ridding hood, she can't just fill both roles
No, the half wolf (or more like werewolf) is a problem. In the books, the Red Ridding Hood village is kind of at war with the wolves. When it is revealed that she is part wolf, the two clans almost start a war (also, drown Raven Queen for being a witch who happens to be there). The grandma is kind of the head of the human clan and so to stop the war they settle on a race: if Cerise manages to win agains EVERYONE else, she will not be banished from her home (and Raven won't be drowned). But yeah, the whole "villain and protagonist falling in love" is also a problem in their society.
Cedar can't lie because her father, Pinocchio, had placed a spell on her so she could only lie once her story commences. This caused Cedar to become really expressive, but also to become a variable for the other students to be aware of, as they know she can't keep a secret. Now, Cedar can write stories perfectly well. The problem really is she can't read them unless they are real and not fictional.
I don't know who spoiled the Little Red Riding Hood story, but it's not nice. It's totally explained in the episodes, so why are people spoiling things he will learn about?! It's not like it was just implied and never really addressed?! There's a whole episode about the situation! So people, just STOP saying things he will see in later episodes even if he asks about and it will be answered! Just tell him it will be addressed in later episodes and that's all!
All I want is just be on a call with Mathew while he watches the episodes to EXPLAIN cuz it is physically agonizing to see him interpreting a story without context 😂😂
We have more Ever After High which means a long explanation to answer your questions. Starting with Ashlyn and Hunter’s relationship. They both started developing feelings for each other as they both are nature lovers who spend a lot of time in the woods. The main problem with their relationship is much like predetermined destiny, a lot of the Royals have predetermined prince/princess. Ashlynn is expected to end up with some royal prince at the end of her fairytale. And Hunter is destined to protect his story’s heroine but love is not part of his tale. The society they’re a part of would ostracize them. And a little fun fact about Hunter. His main reason for being a rebel is his love for nature. While he enjoys archery, and saving damsels, he is against hunting animals. He wishes to avoid that part of his destiny if possible. The squirrel we see him chasing, Pesky, is an animal friend helping him train on the hunting aspect. Cedar Wood is a funny little case. Her father tried using magic to have her be on the right path, and prevent her from getting into trouble but he messed up the spell and cursed her instead to be incapable of lying. The actual logistics aren’t very well explained but anytime someone asks her a question she has to tell the truth. Even if she tries to hold back her thoughts it all slips out. Now to explain Cerise Hood, it’s also on that predetermined love idea. The Big Bad Wolf was never meant to find love. After getting beaten by Little Red and the huntsman he just has to live life in exile of sorts. Little Red and the Wolf fell in love during their time at EAH, being teens who wanted to be happy. But they signed their destinies and were meant to be each other’s fairytale enemy. It’s explained in the books they don’t have to follow the story detail by detail, but instead by beats. As long as they follow the major story points, and achieve the similar end result it’s fine. Little Red came up with a way to “defeat” the Wolf in her story, but it was essentially a staged defeat where he could run off and still be ok. After they completed their story, they sought each other in secret and made a family. Little Red and the Wolf were essentially the first ever rebels, one generation prior to Raven’s rebellion. The thing with Kitty Cheshire is she’s a Cheshire. Her entire thing is wanting chaos. She’s not being mean cause she wants to be evil. It’s simply cause she likes seeing chaos. And with the Cerise thing, it’s not so much trying to expose her, since she didn’t immediately tell the whole school, but more like she wants Cerise to not hide her chaotic backstory. Wonderland characters are the hardest to place into the rebel/Royal categories due to the nature of them not being any semblance of black or white. Very excited to see you reach to more!!
16:42 Keep in mind that the parents of these kids also went to the school and signed this. They were not the first, so the parents are just secretly not following their destiny.
Love the absolute flood of venom flowing from Mathew! You can really see in the cafeteria scene with the 2 tables that Reble doesn't necessarily mean villain. Like the Mad Hatter, Pinocchio, and Little Red Riding-hood are without a doubt not villains, most are the main heroes of their story. But we see them here supporting Raven and disliking the status quo which makes them Rebels.
For Ashlyn Ella's name I guess it's because it begins with 'Ash', which is directly related to the 'Cinder' in Cinderella. And they just wanted to give her a real name and not just 'Ash' that can also be a boy's name...
@@izzyliberty8720Yes, and in Portuguese (I'm Brazilian), "ela" is a female pronoun equivalent to she (if I'm not mistaken). So putting together Cinder, which is ashes in English with she, it would be something like "she in the ashes" "She in cinders". I'm using translator, so sorry for any mistakes.
So in the original story of Cinderella, her real name was just Ella but her stepsister’s nicked named her Cinder-Ella because of the Cinder on her face from the fireplace. AshlynEllas name also stems from the same thing because of the Ash from the fireplace
The stories do not necessarily follow the original version, bu sometimes they make reference to them. The stories follow popularly known tales, and sometimes make changes to fit the universe of the cartoon. For example, the big bad wolf there is not a murderer, Cerise hides her origin because her mother shouldn't marry the Big Bad Wolf, she went against the laws of following fate; Another example is that the Cat from Alice in Wonderland is a half-cat woman. (im dont speak inglish very well, i come from brazil and i speak portuguese, so sorry if writed something wrong)
Cedar actually has no choice to keep the truth in, like pleading the fifth. It's part of her curse to blurt out whatever she's thinking. Even when she doesnt want to. That way she litterally cannot keep a secret, bc if someoke asks her she is forced to tell them bc of the curse. They explain that in the book but never specified in the show. Hope that helps!
4:42 Cinderella’s name comes from “cendres” in french (Cendrillon), which means “ashes”. And if you know her story you should know she spends a lot of her time cleaning stuff and getting dirty from ashes and cinders from the fireplace. So that’s why her daughter’s name is Ashlyn.
Cinderella's name comes from "cinder". Way less of a jump than "cendres". There was also people saying that it came from the German version but like... cinder is just right there in the name
In the brother Grim's tales, Cinderella is a cruel nick-name given by her wicked step-sisters. Aschenputtel is her actual name. Cinder-ella, is a play on how she was always covered in soot and, you guessed it, cinder.
Hunter is the son of the Huntsman from "Snow White" and "Little Red Riding Hood". He is a Rebel, because his role as Huntsman compells him to kill animals, something he clearly doesn't want to do. And let's not forget his romance with Ashlynn who is meant to be the next Cinderella and marry a prince, not a huntsman. Again... Rebels are NOT villains, they are students who don't want to pursue their fairytale fates or believe people should be free to choose their own path (being them heroes or villains). In fact, there are children of villains who ARE Royals as they want to pursue their fairytale fates. And the squirrel is Hunter's pet, Pesky, with whom he has a complicated relationship.
I hope he gets around to watching some of the more major parts of the show like True Hearts Day, Throwncoming, and Spring Unsprung. Those are a bit longer and provide a bit more characterization for the characters each one chooses to focus on. They also might help answer/clear up some of the questions and misconceptions he had in this video
Raven’s situation reminds me of Shrek’s from the first and second film. He’d told he Ogres don’t get happy endings. Yet, he defies fate and the literal Fairy Godmother, because he and Fiona’s love is true. I feel like the two of them would bond over that, he’d give Raven advice on how he made his own story instead of accepting what he’d been told.
LET'S GO MATHEWWWW! KEEP IT COMING WITH THESE EPISODES! IT'S ACTUALLY SO FUN TO SEE YOUR REACTIONS TO THEM! I'M SURE YOU WILL GROW INTO LOVING ALL OF OUR MAIN CAST { even daring :) } Edit for Mathew: so basically in the og story of Cinderella, she had to clean up the in the fireplace and that's when the fairy god mother appeared. So um yh :}
I think that you would have a blast seeing Total Drama World Tour songs. They are so catchy and Courtney has an amazing voice and the songs are filled with drama and revenge!
Depending on the version of the story, Cinderella sleeps in the fireplace and it's often said that she "sleeps among the ashes" so 'Cinder'ella and 'Ash'lynn ella fit a little more then you may first think! The way they name the characters in this show is so interesting especially when the parents already have a cleverly thought out name! except "Apple" White is not the best job😅
Personally, I define "selfish" to be: thinking solely about yourself *at the detriment of others* So if your decision directly negatively affects those around you (especially when you have other options), THEN you can be considered "selfish" (and even then, it may not be that simple, such as if those being affected are doing bad things themselves)
Cinderella’s daughter’s name is Ashlyn because “Cinder” and “Ash” are synonyms. And in the original story Cinderella’s name was Ella but because she worked in the kitchen and had to sleep there she had cinder (ash) all over her because of the fire wood so her step sisters would call her Cinderella.
her name is Ashlynn Ella bc her mom's nickname is "Cinder"ella (which was ofc given to her by her step-mom & step-sisters who made her do chores, so she was usually covered with cinders from cleaning) cinder & ash
From what I understand, Ashlyn is called Ashlyn, because Cinderellas real name is just “Ella” but because she was treated as a maid she had to tend to fires, and clean the cinders. This caused her stepsister to nickname her as “Cinderella”, so for her daughter she is called “ASH - Lyn” as a way to reference her mother
Cerise and Kitty Cheshire are my favorites. Cerise has such a pretty aesthetic and I can relate to her attitude Kitty is really interesting and I really relate to her as well. She’s expanded on as a character a lot more and they reveal her backstory and why she acts the way she does. I personally relate to her situation a lot and it makes her a top tier character for me
I’m just so happy that Mathew is still doing Ever After High videos ❤ I hope Mathew sees all the episodes n stuff. Literally when I see that he made an EAH video I click instantly 😂
I think her name is ashlynn bc in the french version of (the original) cinderella her name is Cendrillon and the "cendre" part of the name means "ash" plus fun fact her (cinderella) real name at the beginning of her story is Ella, it's Lady Trémaine who calls her "cendrillon" because she used to clean the chimney so she was covered in ash hence the name of her daughter ASHlynn ELLA I really hope it's clear, English is not my main language I am french if you need clarification feel free to ask and i will use a translator app :)
to explain Ashlynn's name: her mother is CINDERella because she used to be covered in Cinder and named Ella. I assume the writers took a similar route and named ASHlynn to combine the word ash with the name Lynn
I think that the reason Cerise is so secretive about her parentage is less that she’s half wolf, (that’s probably the least weird thing in that school), and more that an evil villain and a hero got together and had kids. That seems like it would be extremely taboo in this world.
Omgosh. Thanks for posting these. I recently watched the whole series in a few days because of ur vids they’re amazing. And btw with Apple, I think she can be selfish but she isn’t that bad. And from what I heard happens in the books, during her childhood and how her mother is later on in the series. I grew to like her a lot more, and understand her. Plus she is also just a child, cause she’s in high school. So I understand some of the mistakes she made. But in her heart she’s definitely a kind and caring person. (As Snow White is supposed to be) P.s. I tried to draw apple white but I ended up completely ruining her face. 😂 5:43 I think Pesky is Hunters pet, which explains why they’d be fighting. Not a hundred percent sure. Someone can fact check in the comments.
In regards to Ashlyn's name, Cinderella was actually called Ella but they changed it to Cinderella because she used to sleep by the fire and got cinders in her hair. Ashlyn is Ash like from a fire! Some of them have more literal names like Hunter, where as others have a play on words as their name Or just Simply something that references their story.
27:00 I think you missed the point. xD The narrators said, it was a good thing, that Raven made people question their destiny. It's a good thing the school will never be the same again. As others already mentioned, Ashlynn is called like this, because Cinder = Ash.
Apple’s background for being a bitch, ripped right from the books: When Apple was six years old, she had fallen down a well. She’d been chasing a dragonfly and climbed onto the well’s edge. Then… a seeming endless fall that ended in a freezing splash, struggle, and gasp for life. She treaded water, her heavy petticoats pulling her down. She didn’t have the breath to either scream or sing for help. It was the first time in her life that she’d ever felt alone. Or cold. Or really, truly scared. Every night before bed, her mother had told her a story that should have been frightening: _Scary Evil Queen. Huntsman ordered to cut out her heart. Lost in dark woods with grabby trees. Dwarves, dwarves, more dwarves. Old peddler lady giving her a strangling ribbon. Old peddler lady giving her a poisoned comb. Old peddler lady giving her a poisoned apple. Crunch. Gasp. Faint (beautifully). Dead sleep. Cold glass coffin. Empty dreams. Then… kiss. Wake. Prince! Cheering dwarves. Huge choreographed dance number. Happily Ever After._ Even the scary parts of the Snow White story never scared Apple, because it was known. It was her mother’s story, and her mother assured her that one day that same story would be hers. Treading cold water in the well, feeling her legs tire, her face start to sink under, the cruel, smooth walls slick to her grasping fingers, six year-old Apple had changed. She realized that the real world was much, much scarier than any fairytale. Only in her own story would she be safe. It took two minutes for her servants, her parents, and a horde of woodland creatures to find her and pull her out of the well. Two very long minutes. By the time she was wrapped up in fifteen blankets before a fire, worried bunnies huddled onto her lap, shoulders, and head, Apple had made an important decision. She wanted her story. She wanted it ASAP. The sooner she was in that nice, safe, familiar tale-poisoned fruit and all-the better. Her story wouldn’t happen without Raven. So Apple had to help Raven onto the right path. And if that didn’t work, she’d _make_ her.
I needed this today so badly I have had the worst week at work and with family life and you are delivering me the proper amount of serotonin that I needed to at least get through being happy for just a little bit. Thank you for being you. I’m so excited to watch.❤❤
I LOVE how you decide to watch ever after high, because it was one of my favourite shows as a lid, and seeing other people watch it for the first time and enjoying it makes me sooo happy 🥰
Fun fact. The wolf from little red riding hood isn’t the only wolf to be cut open and filled with rocks! I have a brothers grim complete works book. I would have loved to see the girl with no hands failing to carry books in the background while Apple white complains about how this mirror is two atoms different than the other one.
I've been waiting for you to find out about Cerise ever since you started watching the show. Apple is my favourite character and I love watching you rage at her
To explain the wooden puppet- birth thing… they explain in one of the books that Cedar was carved by her dad and grandpa. So Pinocchio is a single dad 😊(you really should read the books, they’re so good)
Kitty Cheshire is actually just doing what she is meant to do. She is the daughter of the Cheshire Cat, so it is her fate to cause mischieve and stir up trouble to others. That's why she tried to expose Cerise and provoked the fight between Rebels and Royals, as that would result in great chaos for her entertainment. But don't let her antagonic side to deceive you because she does have a nicer side.
Cerise father is not a werewolf is the big bad wolf but is an animagus,and she dont want them to know the mother was with him,in the book they even live in to different houses for avoid people to know
The reasoning for the name Ashlyn is due to the word cinder in Cinderella with cinder and ash both being words to describe the remnants of fire wood after being burnt. In fact, Cinderella’s name itself was actually a nick-name given by her step mother and sisters since she was always cleaning and covered in… well, cinder and ash Cinder-Ella Ash-Lyn Not to hard to put two and two together
Kitty is a very tricky character, and my favorite. It's her job to cause mischief, but she also does try to help people in a very roundabout way. In her mind, (which was raised on wonderland logic) Cirice is trapping herself by hiding her identity and refraining from activies she likes. The obvious solution to that is to expose her secret, with some bonus chaos on the side.
The reason she has to hide that she's the big bad wolf's daughter is because her parents basically broke the rule of fallowing you destiny and the whole good guy bad guy or Royal and rebel but ultimately they just weren't supposed to be together and she wasn't supposed to exist. That's why she hides it Also I always found the royal rebel thing really confusing like what defines you as a royal? What defines you as a rebel? Because like lizzy heart isn't the hero of her storyand is honestly a villan technically rave is a royal Little Red Riding Hood isn't a royal, but her relationship with the big bad wolf is a huge taboo faybelle and duchess swan are both royals but also villains and It's all just really contradictive and confusing
The Cheshire Cat from Alice in Wonderland is notoriously mischievous. It fits the status qoe that Kitty would also be mischievous. But she does it in a more mean way than a chaotic, joking way. Believe it or not, her and other Wonderlandians get more development later on.
4:34 because Cinderella’s German name was Aschenputtle, meaning little ash girl (Ashlynn) which is where cinder came from I believe. Anyone more knowledgeable feel free to correct me
Ashlyn is named that way because of the “ash part”, similar to how Cinderella was named that by her step siblings as she slept by the cinders in the fireplace. Ashes - Cinder, and then they both have Ella afterwards (for some reason that’s Ashlyn’s surname but Cinderella first name).
I really really enjoy your reaction to this series and absolutly share your opinion on Apple White (: But don't worry because (like many people already said) she will get better over time. She'll continue to make mistakes but those won't always be only her fault ^^
11:08 i wonder if cedar could've asked one of her friends to tell a "tall tale" and then she could repeat what they said by saying "so yesterday, raven told me how she...." and repeat the "lie" because shes not lying; thats what raven said. This probably isnt possible but its just an idea.
Oh my god I just wanna say I found you pretty recently and I’ve been hooked on your channel, specifically ever after high related ones- a lot of the reaction channels over exaggerate and like say things just to say, but you’re actually reasonable and your arguments are SO valid. You are awesome. Pls do more ever after I need more.
Hunter is supposed to be the hunter from Little Red Riding Hoods. Ashlin isn't supposed to date him because she's supposed to marry a prince charming. Yeah that's messed up Also it's ASHlin like CINDERella
you know what time it is lmao time watch me rage 😀
Haha😂 I love this series so much🎉
I love your EAH videos sooo much can’t wait for more😄
Yeeesss...i may have a possible liver disease but it's not gonna stop me from watching this reaction❤😂😂😂😂😂😂
some people have been saying this but the school is split into royal vs rebels not villains so hunters and Ashlyn's relationship is taboo since she's royal and he's rebel etc
Yes let all the rage out my man
It’s Ashlyn because Cinderella’s name starts with “cinder” and Ashlyn’s name starts with “ash”. You see?? Get it? They both relate to fire.
Actually, there are versions where she is called Aschenputtel. Asche means ash
@@exxiyya4855 Mhm!
Thought so😂
Ella cleaned the fire place so her step sisters added cinder to her name to mock her due to the cinders still burning in the fireplace. Cinderella.
Ash is also in a fireplace, Lyn is also a name, thus Ashlyn. Lyn possibly also a reference to lint?
Ella means Fairy Maiden so that's obvious while Lyn means pretty/from the flax(flower) hill. That's probably going too deep though XP.
@@exxiyya4855it's the german version.
In the OG novel, Cinder-ella was a name given by her stepmother to represent all the times she's been covered in Cinder by tending the fire and the rest of the house. Ash-lynn fits perfectly.
Yess!! Finally found someone mentioning the Ash=Cinder thing
I’ve been wondering about this for ages, thank you!!!
You know actually the name Cinderella is just the anglicised name for the character. The German brothers Grimm (also the name of the headmaster and his brother) wrote the story and the original name was Aschenputtel (Asche = Cinder). When you watched EAH in german they just used Aschenputtel as name because its more to the Original story of the Brothers Grimm.
Or Charles Perrault with an similar story Cendrillon (also Cinder)
The Story and the character first got the name Cinderella after Disney adapted it.
Doesn’t that mean that Cinderella’s name is literally Cinder Ella in ever after high, because Ashlyn’s name is Ashlyn Ella?
So, a few lore things to note:
Ashlynn Ella and Hunter’s relationship has to be kept secret because of societal norms. Ashlynn, being a royal, is expected to marry a prince someday. Meanwhile, Hunter is considered both a commoner and a rebel (for not wanting to hunt animals like he’s supposed to). Also, I’d like to point out that as the next generational huntsman, he actually plays the role in both the Snow White and Little Red Riding Hood stories.
Cedar was not born traditionally, she was carved out of wood like Pinocchio originally was and granted life by the Blue Haired Fairy - no awkward or painful births involved. However, the whole lying, nose-growing thing won’t happen for her until later in life, so for now she has been cursed by the fairy to only tell the truth.
Cerise has to hide her ears because her very existence is forbidden. Her parents’ romance goes against the very idea of destiny, and Cerise having the physical trait of wolf ears is clear proof of that. No one else can learn that she’s part wolf or else they’d find out about her family’s secret. And to make matters worse, she’s actually destined to face off against her older sister as the big bad wolf in her story.
And lastly, Kitty is a trouble-maker, but not necessarily out of bad intentions. She’s just super passionate about following her destiny as the next Cheshire Cat (a character who is very mischievous in general)
I just realized Cerise would have to watch Hunter kill her sister if their stories actually played out.... I wonder how their parents feel
@@alecat9990 I mean the wolf survived in their parents story because they changed it so the sisters will probably do the same.
Oh I thought it was cause kitty wanted to be like her mom?
@@poisxnivi She wants to be like her mom, but that is following her destiny. It's the same thing, just different phrasing.
Wait how is kitty a rebel then since she’s following her destiny
In the first book, there's a really sad prologue where Raven is watching the previous years legacy day and she sees an evil witch's daughter signing through her tears. It's also sad, because the narrotar mentions how she's wearing her favrioute lilac sandals under her black witches robe. She would never get to wear lilac again. 😢
i really like that scene!! it shows raven isn’t the first one to not like her story, and also isn’t the first child of an evil character to not be evil
Meanwhile Apple's problem is that "Ohhhhhh, she has white hair 😢😢, Oh no, she needs glasses to read" Like Raven has seen the injustices of this system and saw a victim of them, meanwhile Apple gets a Disney romcom main girl 'flaw'
@@baalgodofrainwhich is pretty fitting for Apple tbh
@@AnEmu404 …honestly didn’t think of that up until now
@@baalgodofrain i've been reading the books, and yea, Apple does come off as a mary sue, so i can understand why some people don't like her in that regard. but i really like how the books gave her some depth with her backstory about falling in the well when she was young. you can understand where she's coming from while still disagreeing with her.
For a bit of lore explanation: the school isn’t split into heroes and villains, it’s split into royals and rebels. So the royals are all the heroes of their stories yes, but the rebels aren’t all the villains. Like Hunter is the son of the huntsman in Little Red Riding Hood (a good guy), but he isn’t royalty so he’s a rebel. Same with Red Riding Hood’s daughter, and Pinocchio’s daughter etc. Hope that helps!
small correction, some people are defined as rebels bc they don't want to follow their destinies which is why raven is considered head of the rebels and apple is head of the royals. an example of this is the episode where [*****SPOILERS AHEAD*****] ashlynn confesses her love for hunter despite him not being in her story, and declares herself a rebel so that they can be together.
@@placeholdername7797 no they are right anyone who isnt born of a disney princess/prince is considered a rebel, ashlynn confessing is her ditching her royal bloodline.
@@placeholdername7797 That is a big spoiler for him since he reads these comments as that was a twist that (probably) wasn't expected. Please edit your comment to remove that.
@@gabesuniverse5566 Actually he's right, rosabella, briar, ashlynn are all royalty and they are rebels. And eah it's not based on the Disney tales
Thank you for explaining this! Also, the royals typically all have happily-ever-afters, but the rebels don’t (whether it’s a BAD bad ending, or just a neutral-ish one)
According to the book, not only can Cedar not lie, she is forced to tell the truth. At one point a group of students bullied her by asking her embarrassing and personal questions and she had to answer them
Thanks for saying this. That's a trigger for me and I'm glad to know before I read
Which book?
@@magicmyah2291 I don't remember, unfortunately
I even remember her being a social outcast & "the last one to know things" When she questioned Raven about her crush on Dexter In the third book- Raven didn't answer and avoided the topic altogether but had it been Maddie or Cerise she would be an open book lol!
That’s so fucked up
I’m gonna explain Cerise’s (Little Red’s daughter) situation. Because her mom is the hero and her father is the wolf from their tale it’s seen as rebellious that they fell in love. Also I’m gonna say this because you’ll only know some of this info from the books. BUT! In their version of the story, they never really did anything they were supposed to in the tale. Everything was staged so that both the Wolves and the Hoods (it’s two different clans) would assume they did their job right. After all-it’s blasphemy to not complete your role in your story
Ooohh, no sabía nada sobre libros de la serie 😮
I just assumed that there was propably a more kid friendly explanation for their relationship but thanks for actually stating the true info. It is very interesting to know!
Yeah, all the tales are actually just a play in eah universe, if raven's mother just have played her role poisoned snow white and everything she'll have a decent life like cerise's father. But since she done things beyond her story(she almost killed the sleeping beauty and also cursed the wonderland), she was inprisioned in the mirror
@@blank68503well not really a play. It is their life but once their story is over they are free to continue their own lives. The reason the evil queen was imprisoned was because she crossed over stories and changed them by becoming the villain.
Makes sense
To explain the Royal vs Rebel distinction, since nobody seems to be getting it right:
Royals- want to stay "loyal" to their story and follow their destiny
Rebels- don't want to follow their destiny
This is how you get people like Raven (and later some other people, but I won't spoil) who are technically royalty, but are Rebels, and people like Faybelle (daughter of the thorn fairy from the sleeping beauty) who are villains of their story but considered Royals because they want to follow their story
(Hopefully this makes sense, English is not my first language 😅)
Yes! Thank you! I’ve often come across fics and such that have ‘royals’ and ‘rebels’ be defined as the “rich’ and the ‘poor’, which is really frustrating bc that’s literally not what ever after high is about at all.
Bro you speak better English than me and I’m pretty sure it’s the first language I ever spoke 😭
You're wrong but not totally royal side conteigns only royals people who are loyal of their stories!
🚨🛑Spoiler Alert🛑🚨
For example the Swan girl (sorry i forgot her name) is a rebel but she wants to be a royal! Because she's a "villain"
And her story have a "bad end"
Ashlynn Ella’s name is a reference to the German version of Cinderella (Aschenputl) and to the fact that in the story the nickname Cinderella came from the stepsisters mocking her for sleeping by the cinders of the fireplace and ending up covered in soot and ashes.
Also ash and cinder…..
I thought it was only because they changed cinders to ashes and got a name from it
Also in Dutch. Their it is Assenpoetser
German?
In chinese, her name also directly translates to ash-lady(灰姑娘)
Here’s a little info on kitty’s disappearing power. When she disappears with a smile she goes into something like a limbo pocket dimension that the Cheshire Cat can access to go to places faster. It was mentioned in one of the books that detailed what certain characters did the summer before their current legacy year. Also I gotta mention that kitty and Lizzie hearts (the red queen’s daughter) can hear the narrators, they just choose to ignore them. It’s a wonderland thing
lizzie cant hear them, for some reason only maddie and kitty can. in the third book lizzie seems like she acknowledges the presence of a narrator but can’t actually hear them
(and also, tiny nitpick, the red queen is a separate character. lizzie is the daughter of the queen of hearts)
@@cheese3123 thanks for the clarification about the narrators, It’s been a while since I’ve read it so I could be wrong. Also I’ve assumed the red queen and the queen of hearts being the same person cause I’ve always thought those titles were interchangeable.
@@nykaliagordon4995 the red queen is for the chessboard and the queen of hearts is in relation to poker with the card decks so they're different
It’s not about cerise being ashamed that she’s part werewolf or the fact that her dad is one either. I think it’s more of the fact that traditionally, the villain is the werewolf. That’s how the story is written. But in Ever After High, the secret is that the story is essentially wrong & little red riding hood & the wolf got married. So revealing she’s part wolf would be a contradiction to the story & her legacy
Exactly.
Yes and in one of the books she actually confessed that her parents is the wolf and little red riding hood!
It’s her parents’ secret rlly, she’s just also keeping it too because it’s taboo to go against the story. But it does mean that ppl have previously gone against the predetermined story and have been completely fine, more than fine rlly so ye
In Alice in Wonderland story, the Cheshire cat is actually "neutral", he doesnt care enough to help, but he does LOVE having fun on other peoples disgrace, and obviously in Ever After High, one's disgrace can be another's happiness
I can’t be the only person who is very confused and annoyed that the Cheshire Cat in this world is a female
When the Cheshire Cat is canonically a MALE in the story and several ppl call him a male so like…
What’s the reason why EAH’s version of Cheshire Cat is a woman
@@KendallChantelle-ff3ueIt’s because in this version they’re not the original Cheshire Cat
They’re a descendant
The original is a male
EAH’s lineage goes years before
I am a simple man, when I see Mathew has reacted to Ever After High, I click lol
same!
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Me too
Same tho ❤😂
Same 😂
One of the major themes of the show is that the system not only is broken but has been broken for a long time. Cerise Hood, a.k.a. Little Red 2.0, is proof of this, being the daughter of Little Red and the Big Bad Wolf, obviously a romance that goes against their story. Ashlynn and Hunter are another example, though a milder one, of being of different politic affiliations (Ashlynn part of the Royals who want their destinies and Hunter part of the Rebels who don't). But there are a ton more to come: people circumventing their destinites, manipulating them, fighting them, changing them. Raven is just the latest and loudest in a long time of dissenters.
So deep for a kid’s show, that’s why I love it
Also, a little explanation for Kitty Cheshire: As you already picked up, she's the daughter of the Cheshire Cat in Alice in Wonderland, where her role in the story is to create chaos. She takes a lot of pride in that and so messes with literally everybody. Still kind of a jerk, but she believes she's destined to be that jerk and so just kind of embraces it.
Kitty is my favorite character
Ya, she's the best ^^
she was literally like: "Yeah I'm a jerk. But I'm THAT jerk."
I love how Andrew's not the one supposed to be reacting to it but he knows everything every time Matthews confused 😂
Since Matthew’s seen the episode about Cerise Hood now, here’s a bit of context. In the book it is explained that over the generations, the setting of the red riding hood story slowly turned into a village full of paranoid people, and a wood nearby full of angry werewolves. Raven talks to little red riding hood and she explains that on “that day” (the day where she played the story out) she fell in love with the awkward teenage werewolf that was trying to fulfill his destiny but didn’t want to hurt her. In the version of Red Roding Hood that EAH is based off of, the wolf doesn’t eat the grandma, just locks her in a closet, and the hunter just scared the wolf off. After Cerise’s parents “lived the story” they started to secretly date, because the “Hoods” (humans) in their town hate the “Wolfs” (werewolves).
Wait these arent the generation right after the original stories?????????
I didn’t know that.
@beautifulclouds8888 same though, i recently just figured that out as well. It explains their yearbook tree...
This actually makes sense
Cerise story is super important because it shows you that their are characters who aren’t following their destiny already. Which means raven not following her destiny won’t cause the world to end or her story to go away.
I love Cerise so much because she literally is proof that nothing happens to those who dare to defy their fates, as she is the daughter of both the hero and the villain of the same story. In fact, Red Riding Hood and Big Bad Wolf are the very first Rebels. Their relationship comes from when they were students at Ever After... and they are just adorable with one another.
what about the two sisters?
Not only Cerise's parents but also the fact that the evil queen did some things that weren't meant for her to do is also a big sign that these destinies are not really what they are supposed to have. Now that I think about it, their parents' generation have so many good examples that none of the characters even took a second to think about and looked over it and the fact that Raven also knows about cerise but still didn't think about it like that.
@@alizaamin8821can u explain cerise situation? How are her parents both hero and villain?
@@winxclubflora8446 Cerise’s parents are the big bad Wolf and little red riding hood. The big bad Wolf is supoosed to be the villain and little red riding hood the Main character. Their secret is that they actually fell in love which is “against” the expectations of the system at ever after high where the story isn’t supposed to be like that but they went against the system and nothing happened but they are now only a happy family.
So her parents are the big examples of the fact that following your own destiny will not affect their stories nor the characters like the principal goes around and says in order to have his way.
Well the evil queen married the good king
Why do I love Mathew not making a big deal over Cerise being part wolf not remembering the whole “villains and royals can’t be together” when Little Red and the Big Bad Wolf got together and had children- XD
What I find to be even worse is that even some *Royals* don't want to fallow their 'destiny' but are still forced to just because that's how the system works, it's not just the *Rebels*. I'd say a good majority of the students don't want to fallow their 'destiny' and yet they're still forced to just because of the words of a few people in power.
Yeah like Duchess.
@@cyberastranovaI'm still wondering on what path Duchess would be in if not a Royal and not going after Ashlynn.. 😃
@@princesserika9899 In one of the EAH books, Duchess is a black swan unlike Odette and is more of a villainous/rebellious type rather.
Next Top Villain its called.
@@cyberastranova Ohh yeahh I forgot 😃
Like Darling Charming!
I think, if you read the books, Cerise's parents fell in love in high school. When it came time to perform their story, they acted it pretty accurately (minus the grandma eating), until it came time for the Wolf to be "axed". Little Red had hidden a smoke bomb in her basket, which she set off, faking a fire. It got everyone to flee, and ended the story without anyone getting seriously hurt.
I always saw Apple white as that gaslighted kid by her mom, she's not someone bad but her mom definitely is and is doing her best to make Apple the next Queen
Fr. I know a girl like this irl. Her parents were HARDCORE religious and extremely, extremely bigoted. Just to give an idea of how sheltered this poor girl was, I'm an alternative/darkly inclined sort of person in terms of how I dress and she was literally afraid of me at first (I know this because she later admitted it to me herself). However, I've gotten to know her more since and she has definitely gotten better, now that she's out of her parents' house and has real-world experience she's slowly unlearning all the horrific things they taught her. I've seen this firsthand and I absolutely believe Apple is capable of change as well
Ya plus almost drowning doesn’t help either
I love how worked up Mathew gets over a kids show- not saying that the system isn’t messed up, it definitely is, but it’s just so funny how it looks like he’s about to defend these characters with his life.
the reason raven is “selfish” in apple’s eyes is because they have all been told that if raven didn’t sign the book, her story would go poof, implying that all the snow white characters would cease to exist. and then, she’s also inspiring others to choose their own desitinies, which apple sees as endangering all the stories and students. we know that they didn’t go poof when she didn’t sign but headmaster grimm keeps telling apple that it will eventually happen so in apples eyes raven is risking lives and encouraging others to do the same so that she can be happy. OF COURSE raven is totally right to want a better life and i’d personally side with the rebels too because like you said it’s practically slavery but there’s a bit more nuance to the royals side then you give it credit for, it’s not that they just want their happily ever afters at the expense of others’ happiness it’s that they’ve been told that if they don’t follow the system, everyone will cease to exist. again, i’d be team raven too but apple isn’t just a villain, she has been manipulated and genuinely cares for the safety of her classmates, including raven :)
also i LOVE this reaction series so much it’s so great to see ever after high get the love it deserves so thank you so much!!!!
Except Apple has made it clear she doesn't care about going poof, she cares about her happily ever after
@@hollowwoods7130 Yea, she's repeated about her happily ever after more than she has about the ceasing to exist, this makes me think she's just using it as an excuse because she knows nearly everyone (who doesn't side with Raven and expressed that) will believe and side with her.
To be fair the fairies are going poof because of people not following their destiny but I don't blame the rebels for that
Building on what other said, if that was her sole reason to think Raven is selfish, which would be somewhat understandable, she *wouldn't* be rubing in her face how she is going to be miserable. And maybe also tune down the "my life is going to be amazing" around someone who's life needs to suck for hers to be good (as planned at least).
Apple is just written to be annoying to a degree, and that is veryyyyy clear with the way she express herself. I don't really think she is malicious, she just comes of as obnoxious so its understandable why he reacts so strongly 😂
I AM excited to see how he reacts to Apple's growth.
I think it never comes up in the show but Raven is the daughter of the Evil queen AND the Good king. And he was very sweet and loving and that's why Raven is so selfless and kind despite her mother and her destiny.
I just want to let you know that Apple does get a lot of character development over time, but I still highly recommend the books
P/S Her name is Ashlynn because of “Ash” since it related to “Cinder” like Cinderella
i feel like all the characters get a good amount of development and get flushed in the movies rather then the short episodes
and in German her Name is Aschenputtel
The sad thing that in the wonderland special apple stopped raven from straight up killing courtly jester, bc she knew it wasn't raven but in dragon games she wanted her to be evil again? To a point where she freed THE EVIL QUEEN?
She NEVER get character development in the serie,she literally understand than change AGAIN mind in EVERY sigle episode and movie,over and over till the cancellation. Rewatch all and you will notice she NEVER understand rebels cause she get back to the original idea of her all over again.
@@Vici.Ritt_ when u pay attention to details, it makes a little sense - the headmaster says in apple's tale that she HAS to stop raven and do everything to fulfil her destiny and then, when she meets the EQ she doesn't want to free her, but upon hearing her say that she failed that one simple task she gets obviously upset and does what she does. it's a sad, but cool parallel
Mat's point about the royals seeing the rebels stories and freaking out is kinda funny, cus that's almost exactly what happens when the Storybook of Legends disappears, and they all go into each other's stories..
Apple gets pricked and falls asleep at Briar's thing and she has to save her, and that's when Apple finally understands why some people hate their destiny (or at least why Briar was so upset about it earlier in that arc)
I’m not unhappy you’re going off on apple. I’m actually relieved that you voice the things that make me angry and frustrated too so I know someone else also has this experience. I relate. Thanks!!
I believe the issue about Cerise is not her being half wolf, but that the union of a villian and a protagonist is either forbidden or controversial (maybe it can get both her parents in big trouble)
Also it might affect her destiny because she is the daughter of both the wolf and the red ridding hood, she can't just fill both roles
Cerise’s sister Ramona Badwolf would be the wolf villain in her story, although it’s still pretty messed up if you think about it
@@Terilyn Yeah, I didn't wanted to add spoilers. They are sisters but have to pretend in front of everyone to dislike each other
@@Terilyn who's Ramona Badwolf?
@@KathyH684she’s in a later episode
No, the half wolf (or more like werewolf) is a problem.
In the books, the Red Ridding Hood village is kind of at war with the wolves. When it is revealed that she is part wolf, the two clans almost start a war (also, drown Raven Queen for being a witch who happens to be there). The grandma is kind of the head of the human clan and so to stop the war they settle on a race: if Cerise manages to win agains EVERYONE else, she will not be banished from her home (and Raven won't be drowned).
But yeah, the whole "villain and protagonist falling in love" is also a problem in their society.
I love kitty. Shes basically the embodiment of how mischievous cats can be lol. Also i love that shes definitely a rebel but NOT evil
Cedar can't lie because her father, Pinocchio, had placed a spell on her so she could only lie once her story commences. This caused Cedar to become really expressive, but also to become a variable for the other students to be aware of, as they know she can't keep a secret. Now, Cedar can write stories perfectly well. The problem really is she can't read them unless they are real and not fictional.
I really hope bro watches the whole series because a lot of things happen and Id love to relive it through this guy
He should read Shannon Hale books and do a book review or something
I don't know who spoiled the Little Red Riding Hood story, but it's not nice. It's totally explained in the episodes, so why are people spoiling things he will learn about?! It's not like it was just implied and never really addressed?! There's a whole episode about the situation!
So people, just STOP saying things he will see in later episodes even if he asks about and it will be answered! Just tell him it will be addressed in later episodes and that's all!
All I want is just be on a call with Mathew while he watches the episodes to EXPLAIN cuz it is physically agonizing to see him interpreting a story without context 😂😂
We have more Ever After High which means a long explanation to answer your questions.
Starting with Ashlyn and Hunter’s relationship. They both started developing feelings for each other as they both are nature lovers who spend a lot of time in the woods. The main problem with their relationship is much like predetermined destiny, a lot of the Royals have predetermined prince/princess. Ashlynn is expected to end up with some royal prince at the end of her fairytale. And Hunter is destined to protect his story’s heroine but love is not part of his tale. The society they’re a part of would ostracize them.
And a little fun fact about Hunter. His main reason for being a rebel is his love for nature. While he enjoys archery, and saving damsels, he is against hunting animals. He wishes to avoid that part of his destiny if possible. The squirrel we see him chasing, Pesky, is an animal friend helping him train on the hunting aspect.
Cedar Wood is a funny little case. Her father tried using magic to have her be on the right path, and prevent her from getting into trouble but he messed up the spell and cursed her instead to be incapable of lying. The actual logistics aren’t very well explained but anytime someone asks her a question she has to tell the truth. Even if she tries to hold back her thoughts it all slips out.
Now to explain Cerise Hood, it’s also on that predetermined love idea. The Big Bad Wolf was never meant to find love. After getting beaten by Little Red and the huntsman he just has to live life in exile of sorts. Little Red and the Wolf fell in love during their time at EAH, being teens who wanted to be happy. But they signed their destinies and were meant to be each other’s fairytale enemy. It’s explained in the books they don’t have to follow the story detail by detail, but instead by beats. As long as they follow the major story points, and achieve the similar end result it’s fine. Little Red came up with a way to “defeat” the Wolf in her story, but it was essentially a staged defeat where he could run off and still be ok. After they completed their story, they sought each other in secret and made a family. Little Red and the Wolf were essentially the first ever rebels, one generation prior to Raven’s rebellion.
The thing with Kitty Cheshire is she’s a Cheshire. Her entire thing is wanting chaos. She’s not being mean cause she wants to be evil. It’s simply cause she likes seeing chaos. And with the Cerise thing, it’s not so much trying to expose her, since she didn’t immediately tell the whole school, but more like she wants Cerise to not hide her chaotic backstory. Wonderland characters are the hardest to place into the rebel/Royal categories due to the nature of them not being any semblance of black or white. Very excited to see you reach to more!!
I actually posted a very similar explanation comment shortly before seeing this one. Nice to meet another passionate EAH lore fan tho :)
16:42
Keep in mind that the parents of these kids also went to the school and signed this. They were not the first, so the parents are just secretly not following their destiny.
I think the shoes took forever because Briar was asleep and Goldie would be obsessing over where the perfect location for the first shoe pair would be
Love the absolute flood of venom flowing from Mathew!
You can really see in the cafeteria scene with the 2 tables that Reble doesn't necessarily mean villain. Like the Mad Hatter, Pinocchio, and Little Red Riding-hood are without a doubt not villains, most are the main heroes of their story. But we see them here supporting Raven and disliking the status quo which makes them Rebels.
For Ashlyn Ella's name I guess it's because it begins with 'Ash', which is directly related to the 'Cinder' in Cinderella. And they just wanted to give her a real name and not just 'Ash' that can also be a boy's name...
I mean the "lynn" part can also be analogous to the "ella" which is just a feminine suffix used in names...
@@izzyliberty8720Yes, and in Portuguese (I'm Brazilian), "ela" is a female pronoun equivalent to she (if I'm not mistaken). So putting together Cinder, which is ashes in English with she, it would be something like "she in the ashes" "She in cinders". I'm using translator, so sorry for any mistakes.
@@noahaiden2008You're right about the meaning in Portuguese
@@sarahsant5560 Thanks
And Ashley probuably didn't sound fantasy/fairy tale enough for them
So in the original story of Cinderella, her real name was just Ella but her stepsister’s nicked named her Cinder-Ella because of the Cinder on her face from the fireplace. AshlynEllas name also stems from the same thing because of the Ash from the fireplace
The stories do not necessarily follow the original version, bu sometimes they make reference to them. The stories follow popularly known tales, and sometimes make changes to fit the universe of the cartoon.
For example, the big bad wolf there is not a murderer, Cerise hides her origin because her mother shouldn't marry the Big Bad Wolf, she went against the laws of following fate; Another example is that the Cat from Alice in Wonderland is a half-cat woman. (im dont speak inglish very well, i come from brazil and i speak portuguese, so sorry if writed something wrong)
Your English is legible. Good job !
Tu escreveu bem, nem notei que n era um nativo até vc mencionar hahaha
@@springgirl7874 Eu admito que usei ajuda de um tradutor pra escrever algumas partes kakakakak
Vc é do Brasil tbm?
Cedar actually has no choice to keep the truth in, like pleading the fifth. It's part of her curse to blurt out whatever she's thinking. Even when she doesnt want to. That way she litterally cannot keep a secret, bc if someoke asks her she is forced to tell them bc of the curse. They explain that in the book but never specified in the show. Hope that helps!
4:42 Cinderella’s name comes from “cendres” in french (Cendrillon), which means “ashes”. And if you know her story you should know she spends a lot of her time cleaning stuff and getting dirty from ashes and cinders from the fireplace. So that’s why her daughter’s name is Ashlyn.
Cinderella's name comes from "cinder". Way less of a jump than "cendres". There was also people saying that it came from the German version but like... cinder is just right there in the name
In the brother Grim's tales, Cinderella is a cruel nick-name given by her wicked step-sisters. Aschenputtel is her actual name. Cinder-ella, is a play on how she was always covered in soot and, you guessed it, cinder.
her name is ashlyn because of "cinder"ella. like the cinders from the fireplace are a type of ash hence ✨️ashlyn✨️
You know you are hooked when you get so passionate and vent about it
Hunter is the son of the Huntsman from "Snow White" and "Little Red Riding Hood". He is a Rebel, because his role as Huntsman compells him to kill animals, something he clearly doesn't want to do. And let's not forget his romance with Ashlynn who is meant to be the next Cinderella and marry a prince, not a huntsman. Again... Rebels are NOT villains, they are students who don't want to pursue their fairytale fates or believe people should be free to choose their own path (being them heroes or villains). In fact, there are children of villains who ARE Royals as they want to pursue their fairytale fates. And the squirrel is Hunter's pet, Pesky, with whom he has a complicated relationship.
I hope he gets around to watching some of the more major parts of the show like True Hearts Day, Throwncoming, and Spring Unsprung. Those are a bit longer and provide a bit more characterization for the characters each one chooses to focus on. They also might help answer/clear up some of the questions and misconceptions he had in this video
I love how the thumbnail represents so well Matthew's rage 😂
His face but also the characters'!
Raven’s situation reminds me of Shrek’s from the first and second film. He’d told he Ogres don’t get happy endings. Yet, he defies fate and the literal Fairy Godmother, because he and Fiona’s love is true. I feel like the two of them would bond over that, he’d give Raven advice on how he made his own story instead of accepting what he’d been told.
LET'S GO MATHEWWWW! KEEP IT COMING WITH THESE EPISODES! IT'S ACTUALLY SO FUN TO SEE YOUR REACTIONS TO THEM! I'M SURE YOU WILL GROW INTO LOVING ALL OF OUR MAIN CAST { even daring :) }
Edit for Mathew: so basically in the og story of Cinderella, she had to clean up the in the fireplace and that's when the fairy god mother appeared. So um yh :}
I love EAH I hope he continues it
I think that you would have a blast seeing Total Drama World Tour songs. They are so catchy and Courtney has an amazing voice and the songs are filled with drama and revenge!
I will never not love these videos! Love your rage for Apple bc it is deserved is most parts! Raven is literally such an icon! 💜💜💜💜💜💜
Depending on the version of the story, Cinderella sleeps in the fireplace and it's often said that she "sleeps among the ashes" so 'Cinder'ella and 'Ash'lynn ella fit a little more then you may first think! The way they name the characters in this show is so interesting especially when the parents already have a cleverly thought out name! except "Apple" White is not the best job😅
Personally, I define "selfish" to be: thinking solely about yourself *at the detriment of others*
So if your decision directly negatively affects those around you (especially when you have other options), THEN you can be considered "selfish" (and even then, it may not be that simple, such as if those being affected are doing bad things themselves)
Cinderella’s daughter’s name is Ashlyn because “Cinder” and “Ash” are synonyms.
And in the original story Cinderella’s name was Ella but because she worked in the kitchen and had to sleep there she had cinder (ash) all over her because of the fire wood so her step sisters would call her Cinderella.
her name is Ashlynn Ella bc her mom's nickname is "Cinder"ella (which was ofc given to her by her step-mom & step-sisters who made her do chores, so she was usually covered with cinders from cleaning)
cinder & ash
Never got the Ash in Ashlynn but never about the cinder-Ella part
Royals are students that want to follow their stories, rebels are ones that don’t
so the reason people cant find out about her being part wolf is that her dad is the "big bad wolf" like the villain from red riding hood, her mom.
From what I understand, Ashlyn is called Ashlyn, because Cinderellas real name is just “Ella” but because she was treated as a maid she had to tend to fires, and clean the cinders. This caused her stepsister to nickname her as “Cinderella”, so for her daughter she is called “ASH - Lyn” as a way to reference her mother
I can't wait for Mathew to watch the entire series it gets so dramatic and I would love to see his reaction
Cerise and Kitty Cheshire are my favorites. Cerise has such a pretty aesthetic and I can relate to her attitude
Kitty is really interesting and I really relate to her as well. She’s expanded on as a character a lot more and they reveal her backstory and why she acts the way she does. I personally relate to her situation a lot and it makes her a top tier character for me
I’m just so happy that Mathew is still doing Ever After High videos ❤ I hope Mathew sees all the episodes n stuff. Literally when I see that he made an EAH video I click instantly 😂
I hope he gets to Thronecoming
The amount of anger you are giving out for Raven’s sake is so relatable!
Please keep these coming, I wait for these ever after high videos every day
Aaaah! I’ve been waiting for more follow up! At this point, I’d absolutely watch Mathew react to the entire series.
I think her name is ashlynn bc in the french version of (the original) cinderella her name is Cendrillon and the "cendre" part of the name means "ash" plus fun fact her (cinderella) real name at the beginning of her story is Ella, it's Lady Trémaine who calls her "cendrillon" because she used to clean the chimney so she was covered in ash hence the name of her daughter ASHlynn ELLA
I really hope it's clear, English is not my main language I am french if you need clarification feel free to ask and i will use a translator app :)
to explain Ashlynn's name: her mother is CINDERella because she used to be covered in Cinder and named Ella. I assume the writers took a similar route and named ASHlynn to combine the word ash with the name Lynn
I love your Ever After High reactions
You somehow made almost 30 minutes of content reacting to 5 minutes of media 😂
I think that the reason Cerise is so secretive about her parentage is less that she’s half wolf, (that’s probably the least weird thing in that school), and more that an evil villain and a hero got together and had kids. That seems like it would be extremely taboo in this world.
Mathew reacting to Ever After High is my peace moment
Omgosh. Thanks for posting these. I recently watched the whole series in a few days because of ur vids they’re amazing. And btw with Apple, I think she can be selfish but she isn’t that bad. And from what I heard happens in the books, during her childhood and how her mother is later on in the series. I grew to like her a lot more, and understand her. Plus she is also just a child, cause she’s in high school. So I understand some of the mistakes she made. But in her heart she’s definitely a kind and caring person. (As Snow White is supposed to be) P.s. I tried to draw apple white but I ended up completely ruining her face. 😂
5:43 I think Pesky is Hunters pet, which explains why they’d be fighting. Not a hundred percent sure. Someone can fact check in the comments.
In regards to Ashlyn's name, Cinderella was actually called Ella but they changed it to Cinderella because she used to sleep by the fire and got cinders in her hair. Ashlyn is Ash like from a fire! Some of them have more literal names like Hunter, where as others have a play on words as their name Or just Simply something that references their story.
27:00 I think you missed the point. xD The narrators said, it was a good thing, that Raven made people question their destiny. It's a good thing the school will never be the same again.
As others already mentioned, Ashlynn is called like this, because Cinder = Ash.
Apple’s background for being a bitch, ripped right from the books:
When Apple was six years old, she had fallen down a well.
She’d been chasing a dragonfly and climbed onto the well’s edge. Then… a seeming endless fall that ended in a freezing splash, struggle, and gasp for life. She treaded water, her heavy petticoats pulling her down. She didn’t have the breath to either scream or sing for help. It was the first time in her life that she’d ever felt alone. Or cold. Or really, truly scared.
Every night before bed, her mother had told her a story that should have been frightening: _Scary Evil Queen. Huntsman ordered to cut out her heart. Lost in dark woods with grabby trees. Dwarves, dwarves, more dwarves. Old peddler lady giving her a strangling ribbon. Old peddler lady giving her a poisoned comb. Old peddler lady giving her a poisoned apple. Crunch. Gasp. Faint (beautifully). Dead sleep. Cold glass coffin. Empty dreams. Then… kiss. Wake. Prince! Cheering dwarves. Huge choreographed dance number. Happily Ever After._
Even the scary parts of the Snow White story never scared Apple, because it was known. It was her mother’s story, and her mother assured her that one day that same story would be hers.
Treading cold water in the well, feeling her legs tire, her face start to sink under, the cruel, smooth walls slick to her grasping fingers, six year-old Apple had changed. She realized that the real world was much, much scarier than any fairytale. Only in her own story would she be safe.
It took two minutes for her servants, her parents, and a horde of woodland creatures to find her and pull her out of the well. Two very long minutes. By the time she was wrapped up in fifteen blankets before a fire, worried bunnies huddled onto her lap, shoulders, and head, Apple had made an important decision. She wanted her story. She wanted it ASAP. The sooner she was in that nice, safe, familiar tale-poisoned fruit and all-the better.
Her story wouldn’t happen without Raven. So Apple had to help Raven onto the right path.
And if that didn’t work, she’d _make_ her.
I needed this today so badly I have had the worst week at work and with family life and you are delivering me the proper amount of serotonin that I needed to at least get through being happy for just a little bit. Thank you for being you. I’m so excited to watch.❤❤
Can't wait for more of these! They only get better and better.
I LOVE how you decide to watch ever after high, because it was one of my favourite shows as a lid, and seeing other people watch it for the first time and enjoying it makes me sooo happy 🥰
Ashlyn is a play on Cinderella because of cinders and ashs
Love to see someone reacting to this show. No matter where I look I couldn’t find it.
"Are you happy with yourself?" Yeah, I like Andrew... I was "sideyeing" at Mathew like: dude...
Fun fact. The wolf from little red riding hood isn’t the only wolf to be cut open and filled with rocks! I have a brothers grim complete works book. I would have loved to see the girl with no hands failing to carry books in the background while Apple white complains about how this mirror is two atoms different than the other one.
I've been waiting for you to find out about Cerise ever since you started watching the show. Apple is my favourite character and I love watching you rage at her
To explain the wooden puppet- birth thing… they explain in one of the books that Cedar was carved by her dad and grandpa. So Pinocchio is a single dad 😊(you really should read the books, they’re so good)
Kitty Cheshire is actually just doing what she is meant to do. She is the daughter of the Cheshire Cat, so it is her fate to cause mischieve and stir up trouble to others. That's why she tried to expose Cerise and provoked the fight between Rebels and Royals, as that would result in great chaos for her entertainment. But don't let her antagonic side to deceive you because she does have a nicer side.
Cerise father is not a werewolf is the big bad wolf but is an animagus,and she dont want them to know the mother was with him,in the book they even live in to different houses for avoid people to know
The reasoning for the name Ashlyn is due to the word cinder in Cinderella with cinder and ash both being words to describe the remnants of fire wood after being burnt. In fact, Cinderella’s name itself was actually a nick-name given by her step mother and sisters since she was always cleaning and covered in… well, cinder and ash
Cinder-Ella
Ash-Lyn
Not to hard to put two and two together
Kitty is a very tricky character, and my favorite. It's her job to cause mischief, but she also does try to help people in a very roundabout way.
In her mind, (which was raised on wonderland logic) Cirice is trapping herself by hiding her identity and refraining from activies she likes. The obvious solution to that is to expose her secret, with some bonus chaos on the side.
The reason she has to hide that she's the big bad wolf's daughter is because her parents basically broke the rule of fallowing you destiny and the whole good guy bad guy or Royal and rebel but ultimately they just weren't supposed to be together and she wasn't supposed to exist. That's why she hides it
Also I always found the royal rebel thing really confusing like what defines you as a royal? What defines you as a rebel? Because like lizzy heart isn't the hero of her storyand is honestly a villan technically rave is a royal Little Red Riding Hood isn't a royal, but her relationship with the big bad wolf is a huge taboo faybelle and duchess swan are both royals but also villains and It's all just really contradictive and confusing
The Cheshire Cat from Alice in Wonderland is notoriously mischievous. It fits the status qoe that Kitty would also be mischievous. But she does it in a more mean way than a chaotic, joking way. Believe it or not, her and other Wonderlandians get more development later on.
4:34 because Cinderella’s German name was Aschenputtle, meaning little ash girl (Ashlynn) which is where cinder came from I believe. Anyone more knowledgeable feel free to correct me
Ashlyn is named that way because of the “ash part”, similar to how Cinderella was named that by her step siblings as she slept by the cinders in the fireplace. Ashes - Cinder, and then they both have Ella afterwards (for some reason that’s Ashlyn’s surname but Cinderella first name).
I really really enjoy your reaction to this series and absolutly share your opinion on Apple White (:
But don't worry because (like many people already said) she will get better over time. She'll continue to make mistakes but those won't always be only her fault ^^
11:08 i wonder if cedar could've asked one of her friends to tell a "tall tale" and then she could repeat what they said by saying "so yesterday, raven told me how she...." and repeat the "lie" because shes not lying; thats what raven said.
This probably isnt possible but its just an idea.
Im so early but i love your ever after high videos please do more
Oh my god I just wanna say I found you pretty recently and I’ve been hooked on your channel, specifically ever after high related ones- a lot of the reaction channels over exaggerate and like say things just to say, but you’re actually reasonable and your arguments are SO valid. You are awesome. Pls do more ever after I need more.
Hunter is supposed to be the hunter from Little Red Riding Hoods.
Ashlin isn't supposed to date him because she's supposed to marry a prince charming. Yeah that's messed up
Also it's ASHlin like CINDERella
ah yes, “giants, a puppet that can’t lie, someone with narcolepsy, an evil witch”, all things which are only found in the ever after high world