The fascinating science of who succeeds in art | Albert-László Barabási
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- This scientist made an algorithm to predict which artists succeed-without even looking at their art.
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Success in the art world can mean different things to different artists. While some artists work solely for the pleasure of producing art, others seek external recognition, such as being shown in prestigious galleries or museums, and selling their craft. The latter - profitability, recognition, demand - is how success is traditionally defined in the field.
But out of all the emerging artists across the world, only a select few will make it to international recognition in their careers. Network physicist Albert-László Barabási believes he can predict who it’s going to be. And he doesn’t even need to look at the artist’s artwork. While talent is essential for an artist's success, understanding the networks in which their work is embedded is perhaps even more important.
Access to these networks is determined by complex dependencies, with gatekeepers, such as institutions and galleries, playing a crucial role in an artist's access to the market. Through mapping out these networks, Barabási has been able to predict artistic success with impressive accuracy. With an acute understanding of the various institutions and galleries that routinely lead to the center of the network, an artist can increase their chances of success and longevity in the art world.
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oh, ok so by ¨art¨ he meant the ¨art gallery businnes¨(A.K.A: money laundry machine for rich people) . gotcha
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What about artists who are recognized posthumously? I would argue that they are successful.
Interesting point! Wonder if there could be a separate pattern behind which artists get rediscovered or rise in popularity after they die.
I think this is because it's easier to construct a myth of a dead genious artist than of a living one...
It doesn't mean that the art is any less. But I agree the narrative can be manipulated more without the artist to contest it.
@@BraTina996 so true with biggie pac and a lot of rappers that die they get turned into messiah would you say the scarcity principle also play a part no more paintings so that drives their appeal adding onto the pr propaganda thing you mentioned
This is such an interesting debate
Nice, this explanation pretty much summs what I felt about success but never would have been able to explain to anyone. Makes totally sense to me since my ads brain thinks in network structures and I always followed my intuition with some notable success...
Success is the death of art. If you are working for the approval of some gatekeeper, then you are just a glorified businessman manufacturing a product. The only true artist is the one who creates with conviction that they will never be popular or successful. Anything else is a bastardized commoditization of art.
They don't have to stay low because they think that one shouldn't be popular or famous.
Why should one succeed? Why don't they try being a failure?
The production people (museums people, film producers, whatever) who pick artists based on the requirements for market value or the artist's elements and themes which seems very lucrative, they end up getting being box office and statistics of postive, negative reviews, more audience for exhibition, next big city to exhibit.
It's always about succeeding- this getting famous, wealth acquisition, so on. It's never about looking at humans as a whole, and making art that connects with them, rather than being indifferent.
It shouldn't be about success and failure. The art thing has become very much like fashion industry, it's about having that perfect ballon buttocks or right size of breasts, skin tone, facial symmetry so that can be 'succeed'.
Most of the aspirants spend their time fantasizing about getting the right changes to get into spotlight, while others just give up cuz they somehow come to conclusion that they're not fit for that, and the small minorty get into the industry and the cherry picked dozens whill be in magazines and tv, and so on. But what we don't understand is that, this system messes with us by projecting the false message of perfection (in terms of body and beauty), and makes us run for it, being cogs in the futile, arrogant, mindless process. Same goes to entertainment, arts, business etc.
Most of the people as they age will know the absurdity in conformity, but some just keep fuelling this stupidity for personal gains.
And whatever scientific thesis/theory(or whatever) albert barabasi's product is based on, already has heavy criticism. These RUclips channels have become just like celebrity magazines for selling movies.
What's wrong with monetary succes and cant one be both skilled and highly paid i feel like these type of commodity/commercialism arguments are false dichotomies
@@ghostwriter991 i never said any of that. i wish everyone monetary success and to be paid for their skills. what I dont like is manufacturing a product with the primary intention of getting money/fame, and then calling it art, and pretending it has some other meaning. no, the primary thing you've expressed here is your need for cash and attention. if that truly was the goal, then more power to you and i hope it works out, but don't pretend that your creative vision wasn't clouded by profit incentives, and don't tell others that this is the epitome of human expression when its so far from it. in my opinion, the "art" industry is a pretentious scam that preys on people who want to be part of the elitist club masquerading as an important cultural epicenter.
@@Always.Smarter what's wrong with elitism and creating with a profit doesn't necessarily mean its bad because there's no distinction when you good at shit money follows regardless of intent and what's wrong with art galleries being elitism one can create their own art communities that aren't
5:56 Two great questions that make a clear cut between art and kitsch.
Great video. Interesting take, as his point is understandable for 99% of artists. Association to the “gatekeepers” or “gates” in art. Galleries, collections, museums. Etc.
But I feel the artist that is doing something so unique and would be considered a modern Picasso or Monet or x artist (regardless of movement) will be found regardless of said association to a specific gallery/critic/museum. And their art will be elevated. This is especially true now, more so than ever before as social media and internet can easily expose those on the edge of new styles and techniques.
What about the Internet doesn't that remove "gatekeepers" if you understand the Internet
I would like to ask a question to any artists that will read this, and also to you, people behind "The Well" channel. Q: Does the appearance of the Artificial Intelligence have any impact on you, on your work or on "gatekeepers"? 🌍
tl;dr Chaos theory says that artists who display their work anywhere willing to show it seeds the potential chaotic random interactions that give rise to long term emergent success.
he’s all wrong saying galleries are the way to success. betting on the galleries is the wrong idea in 2023 and into the future. instagram and youtube is the way in for future artists.
i’m a videographer in film school. this same conversation permeates the classrooms as well. the future martin scorsese’s and christopher nolan’s are on RUclips. they are on instagram or tik tik potentially, although less so. youtube came out about 10 years ago. we have no data yet on whether these future hollywood superstars were previously filmmakers on youtube, but i guarantee that they will be. they will have put their first few short films on youtube.
the art world is the same. galleries are the old world, like the oscar’s. every industry has them. what the people really want is to have total access to this “ability to rise.”
galleries will adapt, and they will take artists whos work is getting millions of likes on instagram or youtube and put them into the MOMA, not the other way around. getting your work out there with zero barrier to entry is the future, not the galleries and gatekeepers.
Whaatf, dude, get off the social media asap if you're there to sell stuff. Don't fall for the algo
@@raw_dah you think galleries are how you become a successful artist? so i guess if 2 or 3 of them reject your work you just throw away that whole career? why try both?
social media is a full proof way to sell things these days. do you know anyone that goes to galleries, and then goes to actually buy stuff? doubt it
@@johnster02 finally someone who gets it. I hate the false dichotomies you cant make money be skilled and modern you not a true artist. If Shakespeare and all them cats had social media they would use social media etc
There's no such a good or bad runner. I'm sorry but there is only runner, and if you run, you're a runner. Just like art, everything we put effort into deserves unique consideration. We don't need to belittle other disciplines or human uniqueness in order to amplify art. Such an attitude is not authentic.
Our brain is the chronometer
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waste of 6 min lifetime ... all I remember is bla bla bla
Why you think folks succeed and what did you wish you heard in that 6 mins so it wasn't a waste of your time
@@ghostwriter991 man this is as boring ad the most boring presentation in school. At least put a Minecraft video to the bottom.
The sun will set after the sun rises. Wow, thanks captain obvious.
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