Great video I’m gonna show this to some friends who just started playing Im sure they’ll get tons of value from knowing which Epics they should try to max first and how to use them
Lots of good info on epics and this really helps out the f2p/low spender players and what I would like to see is more of what they did what athelflaed where she's kinda a f2p legendary commander because you can't pay in any way to get her sculptures
I'm f2p 18mil power now, 120+ days old account and have 6 epics expertise. Pela, beli, Hermann, Sun Tzu, Scipio and lohar. Kusunoki is almost expertised too :) But they don't stand any chance against even decent legendaries lol :p
@@sinestro1136 cao cao 5121, Martel 52, Richard 5111, Cleo 554, El Cid 52, ysg 52. I haven't invested my universal sculptures yet,( I have about 350 gold heads) waiting for Khan wheel to work on first as I'm cavalry player :)
@Chisgule Gaming I feel like 1 pair you might have forgot about Chris and that is eulji + scipio... I used this combo in my last kvk and was winning 3v1 battles against people that had 1 better commanders (moneymoto) 2 higher tech 3 more troop capacity It preformed surprisingly well imo.
i personly love baibars i use him paired with boudica to attack gardians and barbs it works really amazing then i pair kusinoki with il cid as well and minimoto with palaricouse goodness i spelled that all wrong but yah love your vidoes keep it up man you rock
Ok I totally understand why the legendaries all had such high ratings now for the most part... the whole “apples to apples” comparison thing... got it. Smart Chisgule smart. Keep doing your thing brother. Your making me way better at the game that’s for sure!! Almost to 40M power... T5 here I come... time to SPEND SPEND SPEND and going that “high slender” group! Haha can’t wait!
Hey chisgule! Love ur videos u do a great job. Since this is a video about epics it is obviously geared more towards f2p players as I was until the anniversary event...lol way too good to pass up on. The %70 experience gain for the secondary Commander in his army is very important for leveling up for f2p. So I think maybe more emphasis on that is warranted. Everything else u said I totally agree with and is spot on.
Hi! I think the combination of eulji and Richard is strong on the field. When using Richard as second commander, is Eulji C+ in the field? Koreans look at your video and say Eulji Mundeok is bad. I think I like Eulji as Richard's mate. in the field You are my light. I am thirsty for information.
I knew Sun Tzu is best epic, but thanks to you understood value of Kusunoki. I thought Hermann>Kusunoki, but Hermann has best value with El Cid as you mentioned. Kusunoki grants more utility. Thanks.
Hi, I’ll ask the most common question about pairs of heroes. Mundok and Osman; Kusunoki and Herman; Martell (5/5/1/1) and Scipio / Rich (5/1/1/1), Jeanne and Belisarius; Sun Tzu and Ethel / Lee (5/1) / or ... who is paired with him? I play Japan. I had to write 2 identical messages(
As a F2P I obviously rely on Epic Commanders most. While i found this vid very interesting may I ask you to make a quick one showing the talent build(s) you would suggest for the best (rate A or A+) of them in your tier List? E.g. should i decide to put SunTzu on the garrison (which I plan to do btw) which build should i get the most of him with? A full garrison one? A mixed garrison and another? which talents should i prioritize etc.. Same for open field, defending objects and so on. It's nice to learn which commander shines the most, but it would be even nicer to learn which build suits that role most :-). Ty in advance should you make it :-).
I have 10M power and my server is dead, the heavy players left us. Do you suggest me to merge to your server or any more active one? If no, at wich power step should I do?
dude why all players underestimated baibar with his skill talent tree hes deals upto 1700 damage and instantly receives like 250 rage i have been using him since i started rok and if you use his hit and run tactic then its like legendary because each time you attack he hits his aoe you run for 12 seconds bcz you have a 50percent march speed and gets 250 heals and go again in battle do hit again his aoe and its very effective and imagine pairing him with suntzu you can hit 2 3 aoe and get them outa thhere
@@luan0020 Oh were talking about unreal stuff? OOOPS i just thought about like dudes that were BEYOND legendary Like Alexander and charlemagne and genghis khan
I love sun I like to pair him with Joan, kunushi or scipio and let them come at me. I would like to see better archer commanders. And what is the point of seige, no seige commanders.
Relax my dude you are not wrong when you thought scipio is good. Scipio is excellent when paired with a nuker like osman, you will know his true capability when you face a p2w player( make you are on the attack tree path)
Abdulrehman Iqbal ok man, I’ve been pairing him with osman I rn but I just saw this and looked that he’s C- so I was kinda feeling down about tht but ty
I run scipio with joan in the open field and they do alright. That's pretty much it tho, hes okay for rallying cities but you almost never do that as f2p
scipio is great early game where you cant have a a full march with only 1 type of unit in it. but he really drops out late game when you can have a march with 1 unit in it.
doesnt make sense u put Hermann on just "C" he deals big damage 1150, and reducing enemy rage and also giving more rage,march speed and silence thats a nice package for pvp battle dude
Have to disagree. For me, Sun Tzu, Baibars and Osman are all A. Baibars full cav with arabian civ is 25% bonus cav damage... Osman is the best nuker solo. Sun Tzu everyone know how good he is =p
My personal pet peeve: Stop saying "anti-swarm technology." What you are describing are commander based skills. So perhaps say "anti-swarm skills" if you want. But technology in this game is very clearly derived from the buffs and bonuses from the Academy. There are actual in-game events that provide points for "technology" and those points are derived from Academy research.
Rating System: 1:01
City Defense: 2:38
Barbarians and Forts: 6:09
Open Field Combat: 7:12
Rallying Cities: 10:10
Rallying Objectives: 10:48
Defending objectives: 12:19
Solymar getting zeroed S tier Sun tzu for defending from that and Yi Seong Gye is S+
What about gathering?
@@ruidegosgaming9291 Gathering commanders just pick anyone they are all good
@@ruidegosgaming9291 They all are A to S+ tier
you're a legend tier commander. thaaanks!
I think it would be more beneficial for the game to add more epics and more civilizations. Stop adding more legendaries for the p2w
Kingthingamajig Gotwald I agree 100%
I agree with this 100000000000%
Arnold Babasa I agree with you 1000000000000000000000000%
Kingthingamajig Gotwald they could’ at least add a new epic after so many legendaries
Agree with you 1000000000000000000000000%
Great video I’m gonna show this to some friends who just started playing Im sure they’ll get tons of value from knowing which Epics they should try to max first and how to use them
Awesome ty!
Great content! Cheers
When I first saw that Sun Tzu wasn’t a legendary commander was so freaking confused, I was also confused when Joan wasn’t one either
Lots of good info on epics and this really helps out the f2p/low spender players and what I would like to see is more of what they did what athelflaed where she's kinda a f2p legendary commander because you can't pay in any way to get her sculptures
My boy scipio getting no love smh
true joan of arcxtremly fucking tanky
I'm sorry but as a fellow Scipio, Scipio is overrated 😔
I mean Osman is basically a better Scipio that's why I exchanged my Scipio for Osman
As a fellow Scipio user I use him a lot when I'm attacking cities because of his 1st skill and I'm investing in his conquering talent tree
Perfect timing! Thank you very much for this video!
RoK should stop bringing out legendary, it’s just money hungry.. they’ve brought out like 5 new legendary 😒
I’ve been waiting for this for a while. Keep up the good work
I was waiting for this updated video
Thanks man
Would be interested in a sunset canyon tier ranking list as well
Thanks for the guide! You're my favorite RoK content creator :)
Dakeku I agree
Hello Chisgule! What world/realm are you in and what alliance are you in at this time?
I'm f2p 18mil power now, 120+ days old account and have 6 epics expertise.
Pela, beli, Hermann, Sun Tzu, Scipio and lohar. Kusunoki is almost expertised too :)
But they don't stand any chance against even decent legendaries lol :p
Mohammed Razeem who’s your legendary commanders?
@@sinestro1136 cao cao 5121, Martel 52, Richard 5111, Cleo 554, El Cid 52, ysg 52. I haven't invested my universal sculptures yet,( I have about 350 gold heads) waiting for Khan wheel to work on first as I'm cavalry player :)
Mohammed Razeem ahh nice! I’m planning on going infantry. Atm I have Sun tzu +Martel, but for late game I’d like to have Richard + Martel :)
@@sinestro1136 late game I would recommend Alexander the great, he is just beast infantry commander and too OP as of now :)
Mohammed Razeem I’m hearing his for p2w players. I’m only a light spender so if his expensive I can’t afford him 😅
Sun Tzu finally gets the recognition he deserves! China should be considered as a starting civilisation more often!
I started Britain got sun tzu us my 2nd commander totaly and got Sun Tzu to 42nd lvl in a bit older then a week Kingdom.
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You know what is hardest thing wth Sun Tzu in early game to chose which one of talants you take.
Do you know what's sad. I have all the epic except sun tzu
@@duashun8527 haha so funny... well I think you'll be able to up him very fast :)
This makes me feel better about my Kusonoki
Hi Chisgule - How do you cast your game from your phone to a laptop / computer to play? Can you advise on that or do a video on that please? Thanks
@Chisgule Gaming I feel like 1 pair you might have forgot about Chris and that is eulji + scipio...
I used this combo in my last kvk and was winning 3v1 battles against people that had
1 better commanders (moneymoto)
2 higher tech
3 more troop capacity
It preformed surprisingly well imo.
Stan Hogenelst eulji as the primary? And which Talents do you use for him?
i personly love baibars i use him paired with boudica to attack gardians and barbs it works really amazing then i pair kusinoki with il cid as well and minimoto with palaricouse goodness i spelled that all wrong but yah love your vidoes keep it up man you rock
Hi sir, can have your opinion who's better primary commander in barbarian fort lohar or minamoto? Thanks and more power 💪
Hey chisg in a full cav March would you pick cao cao and Pelagius or cao cao baibars for open field.
I just have a very low level Charles Martel, I am using sun tzu as first commander and Martel as the second in the wall.
What is the best tanky pair for epic commander? for open field pvp, and what troops should I use on that commander
Haha was waiting for this one brother 👊🏼
Thanks for the vid man, it helped
Ok I totally understand why the legendaries all had such high ratings now for the most part... the whole “apples to apples” comparison thing... got it. Smart Chisgule smart. Keep doing your thing brother. Your making me way better at the game that’s for sure!! Almost to 40M power... T5 here I come... time to SPEND SPEND SPEND and going that “high slender” group! Haha can’t wait!
Hey chisgule! Love ur videos u do a great job. Since this is a video about epics it is obviously geared more towards f2p players as I was until the anniversary event...lol way too good to pass up on. The %70 experience gain for the secondary Commander in his army is very important for leveling up for f2p. So I think maybe more emphasis on that is warranted. Everything else u said I totally agree with and is spot on.
Hi! I think the combination of eulji and Richard is strong on the field. When using Richard as second commander, is Eulji C+ in the field?
Koreans look at your video and say Eulji Mundeok is bad. I think I like Eulji as Richard's mate. in the field
You are my light. I am thirsty for information.
I knew Sun Tzu is best epic, but thanks to you understood value of Kusunoki. I thought Hermann>Kusunoki, but Hermann has best value with El Cid as you mentioned. Kusunoki grants more utility. Thanks.
Who should i pair sun tzu (maxed) with and should he be a primary or secondary?
Hi Chisgule it’s chunkeymonkey21 from forza in RoK
My first max commander was Scipio then Sun Tzu they kick ass. love using Infantry units in PvP and KvK since majority of Rok players are Cav lovers :D
Hi, I’ll ask the most common question about pairs of heroes.
Mundok and Osman; Kusunoki and Herman; Martell (5/5/1/1) and Scipio / Rich (5/1/1/1), Jeanne and Belisarius; Sun Tzu and Ethel / Lee (5/1) / or ... who is paired with him?
I play Japan.
I had to write 2 identical messages(
What you guys think about Aethaefled paired with Osman?
Keep it up with this type of content!
As a F2P I obviously rely on Epic Commanders most. While i found this vid very interesting may I ask you to make a quick one showing the talent build(s) you would suggest for the best (rate A or A+) of them in your tier List? E.g. should i decide to put SunTzu on the garrison (which I plan to do btw) which build should i get the most of him with? A full garrison one? A mixed garrison and another? which talents should i prioritize etc.. Same for open field, defending objects and so on. It's nice to learn which commander shines the most, but it would be even nicer to learn which build suits that role most :-). Ty in advance should you make it :-).
Check out my epic build video
I have 10M power and my server is dead, the heavy players left us. Do you suggest me to merge to your server or any more active one? If no, at wich power step should I do?
Its nice u talk about them, but I could use talents tree and 2nd Commander. Maybe I have to find someone that make Guides for new players :P
What is the best combination with joan in open field?
Who would you pair joan with?
Epic commanders might be released next year with new civilizations
Simbå Sàmá hopefully
When are we going to get a new epic commander
Mafi Ripper gaming we just did now
Could you make a review about damage factor against cities and objectives pls?
What do you think of the pairing Khan/Pelagius? Rage engine is quite nice and Khan isnt as easy to kill as it is with CC. ^^
Great combo.
i always heard that garisson talents only applied to cities? they apply to objectives too? or is it just garisson skills that work?
They apply to objectives too.
Nice vid. I'm f2p who should I use as a Garrison leader. I have a 5-1-1-1 Richard and Charles who are lv40 and my sun tsu is lv40 who is 5-4-4-3.
I have Sun Tzu as my secondary and Kusonoki Masashige as my primary on my wall.
Who should i get osman 1 or biabars?
What is the best pairing for Kusunoki?? Kusunoki as primary what is best for secondary???
Boudica works also, because she also debuffs.
I love sun tzu but I think Hermann is very strong too.
Which talents do i use for sun tzu ?
dude why all players underestimated baibar with his skill talent tree hes deals upto 1700 damage and instantly receives like 250 rage i have been using him since i started rok and if you use his hit and run tactic then its like legendary because each time you attack he hits his aoe you run for 12 seconds bcz you have a 50percent march speed and gets 250 heals and go again in battle do hit again his aoe and its very effective and imagine pairing him with suntzu you can hit 2 3 aoe and get them outa thhere
What do you guys think for sun tzu? Skill tree or infantry tree?
Both
Full skill tree Rest infantry? Or mainly infantry with rejuvenate from the skill tree?
Bro who is best secondary for sun ju epic only
Is tomoe gozen still good as secondary commander?
I don’t think so
Take Sun Tzu with Eulji secondary on Open field it is good combo try it out
Anyone can tell me what does open field means?
Just maxout my sun tzu yesterday. Now i don't what's next 🤔
Well the Mythicals would be dudes like Charlemagne and Alexander i guess... Maybe they add King Arthur as a Mythic ♡♡♡♡
Charlemagne and Alexander were totally real, a Mythical commander could be King Arthur, as you said and Ragnar Lothbrok
@@luan0020 Oh were talking about unreal stuff? OOOPS i just thought about like dudes that were BEYOND legendary Like Alexander and charlemagne and genghis khan
can u show me a city defence talent tree for Sun tzu
Can lohar still rage tank?
I wonder how are you able to power level up those skills, I mean sculptures are really hard to get...
Bro he just told you he is sponsored by ROK. You know what that means don’t you?
Actually its really easy to upgrade epic commander skills even for f2p
U need to be smart in ur playstyle and should focus in on events that gives u a lot ofvalue for doing easily accomplished activities
i use sun tzu and pelagius a lot now that i watch your video i will try kusonugi and see how it goes...
Kusunoki is real good in sunset canyon.
what are objektives?
I love sun I like to pair him with Joan, kunushi or scipio and let them come at me. I would like to see better archer commanders. And what is the point of seige, no seige commanders.
Siege is just for gathering
Isn't scipio is master in open field?
Can u do a list of updated best pairing for each category u covered? For example which pairing is best in the open field for speed strength etc.
plese anyone teel whre is epic purple hero in rise of kindom
Baibars has aoe. I think this plus the skill tree should place him in the D category at least
For the city defense category
Kusonoki sks didn't agree, eulji better for city def
Is Herman and Osman better then Herman and El cid 5/1/0/0 ??
Yeah Herman osman better
Where Is Keira!?
Infartry open field Sun Tzu is A+ tier for Me atleast I think he should be. I think you are taking him with alexander on open field.
Best 2nd commander for 5511 ysg for f2p ?
In a 1vs1 belaruis is also good he reduce the attack and the defend of the ennemi by 30%
Does a secondary commander have to be high lvl?
Their talents aren't relevant, but you need to have higher levels to unlock more skills.
i thought u said scipio was the best epic for open field combats paired with joan of arc ? and u gave him a c
I also did that :(
So to sum it up, get sun tsu
I am pretty new but i sm stil decent but i also learn a lot so thanks
I kinda hope u dont compare the epics to legendaries. It affects your judgement on the commanders.
True, although tzu is practically a legendary
Go to 2:42 to skip the waffle
Best f2p guide is to try and reach vip10 as soon as possible.
Dreamaginator best f2p guide is just chuck 10 dollars every month for 19,500 gems lol about to get castle 25 off of it 😂
@@airwook1682 where is this?
Please tell lilth to add more epic commanders
I thought Scipio was good, I have him 1 skill lvl away from expertise and I’m only hearing now that he sucks at everything?
Relax my dude you are not wrong when you thought scipio is good. Scipio is excellent when paired with a nuker like osman, you will know his true capability when you face a p2w player( make you are on the attack tree path)
Abdulrehman Iqbal ok man, I’ve been pairing him with osman I rn but I just saw this and looked that he’s C- so I was kinda feeling down about tht but ty
I run scipio with joan in the open field and they do alright. That's pretty much it tho, hes okay for rallying cities but you almost never do that as f2p
scipio is great early game where you cant have a a full march with only 1 type of unit in it. but he really drops out late game when you can have a march with 1 unit in it.
Y does osman still got them freaky feet🤦🏽♂️
MY favorite commander is Eulji Mendeok
~ I have all epics maxed skills Im F2P 😢
How long did it take you?
@@iamsyzygy9611 300 days Nd it's fair for f2p to take that much time
@@gamefreak1754 not 1 single Legendary is maxed for me lol
doesnt make sense u put Hermann on just "C" he deals big damage 1150, and reducing enemy rage and also giving more rage,march speed and silence thats a nice package for pvp battle dude
Herman is best archer epic for sure
sun tzu pair with ?
no love for my man Osman smh
I really like your character
Have to disagree. For me, Sun Tzu, Baibars and Osman are all A. Baibars full cav with arabian civ is 25% bonus cav damage... Osman is the best nuker solo. Sun Tzu everyone know how good he is =p
Scipio still looks the coolest.
Why Scipio is no good??
He’s geared toward hitting cities
Is Scipio just bad? 😭 He's my main commander
easily counter by eulji or aeth
My personal pet peeve: Stop saying "anti-swarm technology." What you are describing are commander based skills. So perhaps say "anti-swarm skills" if you want. But technology in this game is very clearly derived from the buffs and bonuses from the Academy. There are actual in-game events that provide points for "technology" and those points are derived from Academy research.
i love your channle but what is AOE you keep talking about it i dont know it
ok never mind i sould have just kept looking
please common commanders next
Please update the video of epic commanders builds, love your videos btw!