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i love the simplicity of this kind of videos. its literally one man, in period clothing, walking in the woods and talking about medieval life. its so endearing!
I apologize if my comment is a bot off topic, but when you were speaking about the food vendors that roamed with trays of food cooked elsewhere, it reminded me of being a 4 yr old in a very poor country. We lived in a tenement and there was a food vendor that sold food from a tray, and every single day he made it a point to find me and my sisters to feed us. He was such a kind man. I’ve prayed for him many many times over the years. That was 50 years ago, and our circumstances changed significantly. I am now an executive in the USA, running the specialty poultry a wholesale food company. My sisters anre anlso quite successful in their chosen professions. Every year my sisters and I pay it forward, in gratitude to a man that only saw three small hungry children and did what he could to help us. We donate food every thanksgiving day, to those less fortunate, focusing on families with children. I imagine similar things happened in medieval times, for the kind human heart cannot ignore the ability to help hungry children. We were hungry as my father died of tuberculosis, leaving my mother a widow with small children. I thank God for the kind nature of others, for it was because of the kind of strangers that we not only survived, but have managed to thrive.
I appreciate it just because I think cultural details are woefully underappreciated in fantasy RPGs. Take me through an alien food market. Tell me about all seven courses of dinner with the wizard queen. Get me hammered on wine spiked with manticore venom.
i believe that's the precise reason why the all-seeing gaze of the algorithms brought me here somehow. for once i'm glad they did. fantastic ideas for fantasy RPGs and nice food for thought...
@@bootblacking THIS! It's one of the area's I struggled with the most in my Pathfinder campaigns (although I've been having a World of Darkness stint for the last 2 years with my current group.) Edit: Manticore venom spiked wine sounds like it would be super expensive and only available to rich connoisseurs. Oh I bet you could even have local mercenary/adventurer guilds making a big bug being paid to hunt Manticores for such delicacies. Or even some places where it's made illegal by rulers who see it as a reckless endangerment of humanoid life. Heheh
It would probably taste very weird to them. If you get off of junk food for a while, and you try it, it taste different. Like now, when I drink Coca-Cola, I taste dirt. Watch videos of people who try Mountain Dew for the first time. It’s a great example.
@@maryd1495 soda tastes like drinking syurp i hate it especially coca cola i never drank it as a kid and then as a teen it was awful funnily while pregnant it was a craving but now its gross again lol its not that we like it its our bodies love that sugar...its like a drug
That's true. I haven't drank any pop since I was 16 I am now 33 and for the first time yesterday I decided out of curiosity to sip a coke. Oh GOD it was disgusting! I was surprised. I wasn't even a big drinker of pop anyways before though. Yet it never tasted like that I could remember before. I didn't finish it no desire at all for it. It was nasty actually tasted flat even though it was just opened.
My mom was born in the 30’s. Her family lived in a small apartment in Germany. They had a tiny coal stove for heat. No one has a kitchen. It was a large apartment complex too. She remembered her mom mixing up batter for cakes. She then walked it to the bakers to be cooked. It was the same for bread. My Oma (grandma) would prepare the bread dough at home. Then they took the dough to the baker. I love your telling of history. You paint such a vivid image that I can imagine being there. Thank you
@@danit5146 In India people would do that too for years...... They would make a dough for Nankhathai (Indian Shortbread Cookies) during the festival of Diwali, then thenkuds would be sent to the bakery to bake them. Like wise we even bought, washed and dried wheat and took it to a nearby mill to grind into fresh whole-wheat flour. It make the freshest rotis (flatbread)
In DK in the cities peoples possibilities for cooking and baking were limited ( the invention of the cast-iron stoved changed that) so it was not unusual to bring crockpots or larger roasts to be cooked at the Bakers ,
@StevenHickman-m4g looking up India on Google will help. India is very advanced in many ways. It has long been that America goes to India for high-tech people trained in India. Oh, and survival is something well practiced in India as it is in America. I have found our differences are minimal.
My late husband would tell me that when he was a child in Hackney sharing a house with three related families the Sunday roast would be taken to the local cook shop where it would be cooked along with potatoes and rice in the same baking dish and then collected and brought back to the house so that everyone there could partake with the addition of vegetables that had been boiled on the range.
My father told me similar stories from the 1960s. He would often be given a tray full of food and told to go to the bakery so they could bake it. It apparently was a relatively common thing, although I can't say how common house ovens were in 1960s Athens.
I live in Luxembourg on the Moselle river and in the 1940s and 1950s people would take a pot of food to the village baker. He would put it in his oven for a fee and the families would collect it , effectively slow cooked, at the end of the day. Paying for it to be cooked was cheaper than paying for the fuel and watching the oven for hours in case there was a fire.
As for how the cooks knew which pie belonged to which customer who had brought the ingredients: I'm German and both my grandparents from the east of Germany were born in the 19th century. Among what they left we found some little signs of porcelain with pointed ends with their family name engraved and we believe those were used to mark their ownership on breads or stollen (huge German Christmas cakes) they brought to ovens in a shop. Maybe the medieval English citizens had something similar though maybe with some other mark instead of a written name ( not every cook might have been able to read).
There's a nursery rhyme from England Patty cake, patty cake, bakers man, Bake me a cake, as fast as you can, Pat it and prick it and mark it with B And put it in the oven for baby and me. This was how communal ovens worked. You brought your bread or pies to the oven and they were marked with a mark you provided, then given to you when baked in exchange for money.
I always thought prick and mark it with a B meant piercing the surface of the pastry so that the piercings make a B shape, not that they would be sticking some sort of skewer into the bread with a B engraved upon the skewer
When I was very young, that's about 60 years ago in Malta food was not usually baked at home as very few people had an oven, they used to take the prepared dish to the local bakery where it was baked for a tiny amount of money, a small metal plate with a number was placed on the inside of the dish and a duplicate one with the same number was given to the owner to be used when the food was later picked up, usually we used to take the dish around 10 in the morning to be ready by noon, times changed but those were lovely times, I imagine something similar used to happen in medieval times.
I am not a historian, but I am pretty sure decorations on pies started as a way for people to identify their dish. As in, “My pie is the one with the oak leaf.” To this day, I still know which one is Aunt Elizabeth’s.
Regarding the shop fronts, just 30 years ago I moved to King's Lynn and at the bottom (poorer) end of the old main road (Norfolk Street) quite a few shops had no closed frontage but were open to the street (boarded up when closed) and often sold only a single product I.e. there was the Egg man (just sold eggs), the spud shop (just sold potatoes), the cockle man (would sell locally caught shellfish) etc etc. They've all closed since then and been updated over the last 30 years, all the shops now have the usual glass frontage and become "normal" shops. Mindblowing to think practices normal to the medieval age were still quite normal just 20/30 years ago.
@@6400loser Simple. Busy road frontage means more customer eyeballs. More frontage is more eyeball space being taken up where potentially another shop could be. I wouldn't say the real estate structure in today's cities is really all that different. Prime real estate means prime prices and high taxes, it just might not necessarily rely on the width of frontage for the calculation... though it might. Square footage will be a significant factor in today's calculation.
When I went to Cairo a few years ago, I visited a Baker who received all his neighbours loaves for baking each day and was paid a small amount for doing so. I believe each loaf had a small mark or was fashioned slightly differently indicating who it belonged to.
Communal ovens have been a thing wherever bread is baked since urbanization began. Ovens are large. Require significant amount of work to built. A _lot_ of fuel and are a serious fire hazard; the Great Fire of London is believed to have started in a bakery.
I 've binged some scanned German ladies' magazines from 19th century on one internet site of the University of Düsseldorf. There was stuff about fashion, celebrities, crafting and lots of recipes for cooking and baking, like today. In 1860ies, 1870ies the recipes for bread and cakes only told how to prepare the batter, no information about temperature or time but "bring it to the baker and let him bake it".
I was just scolling through to see if anyone else had said it! This sounds very much like modern food courts and vendors' streets to me too, the tech and tools are just a little different.
Yes, drinks from one vendor, food from another and desert from the third. Your friend decides to buy their stuff from different vendors without any inconvenience of splitting up: you just agree where you are eating your food.
In south America we had large open air markets, and they would always have rows of food stalls in one place or another. You didn't walk from one to another, but you could sit down and eat. We also had food carts scattered throughout and those you would walk from one to another collecting your meal. I suspect that similarly the medieval cook street mostly had small sit down establishments if you were going to the trouble of walking there, but many of the shops would specialize in producing food for the street vendors to sell wherever people were. Odds are many children helped their families by reselling small quantities of food. Edit: I failed to make it clear that these were indeed very much like food courts in American malls and airports.
@@fainitesbarley2245 Yeah organs, udders, grissle, everything that wouldn't go into a sausage. At one point the combs of roosters were actually a fancy food to go into a pie but I think it would be nasty, steamed in there.
The first stereotype my mind goes to when think about "coarser meat" in the medieval ages is definitely rats, dog, and horse. That's probably not accurate for the majority of places though, so my actual guess might what you would find as cheaper food in food markets in Asia/Africa. Snails, snakes, pig ears, chicken feet, miscellaneous fermented things, etc. are all found in modern day food markets, so I imagine similar cuts but with less seasoning than the modern versions
@@pwnmonkeyisreal Oh they would never admit to the first two and horse was a rare but totally acceptable expensive meat, like beef. They slaughtered animals much later so it will often be less inclined to be tender, an old wilk cow or ox, or sheep. More flavor and fat but takes a longer time cooking and the cheaper cuts certainly would have tendons and grissle.
@@pwnmonkeyisreal I feel like horse would be an uncommon meat, as people were likely not slaughtering horses unless they were old, ill, or had other serious issues. Horses were expensive, working animals, and were probably worth more alive, than dead, for the vast majority of people.
Detailing the food and drink of a setting really makes a fictional world feel alive. Take your reader or players through a busy city market and you can have them introduced to a lot of your world in a quick and organic way.
This is what makes D&D cookbooks so fun. They make settings seem more alive when you have an idea of what the foods are, and can even make a version IRL.
This humble peasant traveled so frickin hard, he found himself a wormhole and traveled in time to our current time, and he's kind enough to give us a first hand account on what life in medieval times looked like. You gotta admire that!
@@creativecipher the. Why does he use the long and short vowels correctly? Do they put you through a class first? Or do you just observe and try to wing it?
In german speaking countries, a store is still also called “ein Laden”, which is the german Name for board. Ladenöffnungszeit means which time the board is open.
I can answer the question of how someone would know which pie was theirs at a bake shop. Apparently every family had a distinctive design that would be pricked into the top crust. I learned this from a friend who uses her family’s design on pies to this very day. It’s been handed down from mother/aunt to daughter since at least Victorian times.
Yeah, I'd wait and watch them putting my pie together, see the mark they put on the top, and then wander around or go drink while it cooked. Make sure the mark was right when I picked my pie up.
Thanks for creating this channel. It’s so interesting. It’s a surprisingly lesser covered topic. For example, I can understand the daily routine of a middle class Victorian Londoner thanks to the books I’ve read. Same with the Georgian era. But I had no idea medieval peasants actually had such busy and interesting lives. They don’t seem as far away from us as I once thought. Just subscribed!
Re having a shop cook your food for you, I've done that in Kuwait. You can buy a large fish such as a hamour (rock cod) at the fish market and take it to a bakery. They will spice the fish and then bake it in a tandoor oven for you. Tastes delicious!
@@tedmounsteven621 some restaurants here in Florida will cook your fish you catch fresh the same day. There is one restaurant in the area that will give you unlimited fries too.
@@ryanbales8116 yes! My grandpa loves fishing and used to go catch a fish and take it to a restaurant on the water in Tampa Bay. They would cook it up for you for free with a side like fries or salad, in exchange they keep the amount of fish you don't eat (most people were catching big ocean fish like grouper that you couldn't eat yourself in one sitting). It's a cool system. You get your fish cooked, and the restaurant can sell same-day caught fish to the other patrons without having to rely so much on big fisheries or imports.
One of the musical instruments you describe in Piers Plowman is called a psaltery. This is an ancient instrument associated with King David of the Psalms. The psaltery is a wooden box that is strung and can be plucked or strummed as a kind of harp. These are still being played today. Psalteries or “lap harps” are often used for education in music for children especially in Eastern Europe. Richard Harvey, the well known theatrical and movie composer, used one to create the score for the film, “Gladiator “ because of it’s beautiful, silvery sound.
Thank you so much for an easily understood explanation of medieval fast food. I am an 80 year old widow, and my ears don’t hear as well, nor does my brain assimilate information as quickly as even just 10 years ago. Thanks again. I hope to be attending my first REN Festival, in Texas, this fall, and am immersing myself in the times as much as I can. Thank goodness for the internet! (Although, “Goodness had nothing to do with it,” as Mae West said.)
You can slow it down by going to settings , upper right on screen, looks like a cog. And slow the speed down. Voice will be slower but you maybe able to keep up with fast talkers.
I'm neither English nor American, but sometimes English presenters need 0.75 while American need 1.25. 😂😂😂 💚☪️🤲 But I love the content anyhow 🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊 from Malaysia 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
@@ModernKnightI loved the RENFest, but at 80, I will probably not go to that venue again, simply because it is so large. But I shall definitely go to another one, just smaller in area. And tent camping was so much fun! First time in 47 years for the camping. Your videos are absolutely fascinating and informative. Thank you.
Regarding the narrow shop frontages the shop fronts of Cirencester old town are all in multiples of 22 feet (11ft, 22ft, 33ft and 44ft) as the Roman layout was with 22ft shop fronts. There was very little change in the property boundaries outside of these measurements for nearly 2,000 years, possibly why we see very narrow shop fronts in old market squares and such. So many layers of history.
Jason first I want to say I love these videos and I am always excited when they come out. You're also well known for your successful video game company and I would absolutely love to see you go into the medieval genre. Your interest and dedication to history would make it absolutely incredible in a video game
I can totally see Jason coming up with a Kingdom Come: Deliverance style game set in England. Maybe... the late Viking/ early Norman period. Aghh... a man can dream !😌
I cherish this channel so much. Nobody understands day-to-day medieval life better than Jason. Even after years of watching your channel you still manage to transport me back in time to a bustling, lively, energetic marketplace. Heartfelt thanks to you, sir
I reckon people physically interacted a lot more back in the middle ages. If you have to walk to the cookshop, the baker and the alehouse to get a decent dinner then you are going to meet a lot more neighbours than ordering a meal online or going to a supermarket self-checkout.
In many parts of the world, people still live like this. My husband walks to the bakery every day for our bread. He also frequents the fruit and vegetable stands. Our meats are delivered. We travel an hour down our mountain, once a month, for bulk goods.
@@marionky Apparently a lot of places in Europe people still only use a fridge for storing holiday foods, day to day they probably don't have enough food to justify turning it on as they go to the shops every day. One friend lived in a house i Amsterdam for 6 months, he couldn't get a fridge if he wanted to, but he was also between a bakery and grocery and across from a restaurant.
Eh, it’s really only the last few decades where this kind of social interaction has been destroyed in the west, and it’s turning everyone into socially awkward weirdos.
@@littlekong7685 Im European (Norwegian) and not having a fridge sounds straight up absurd to me. But perhaps further south on the continent, in big cities, having an empty fridge is a realistic option? I dont know why anyone would want to do that though...
I believe that a lot of this is still culturally true around the world. Growing up, I'd spend the occasional summer at my grandparents' house in rural Guatemala, and you'd buy food and drink from vendors selling from carts or bags. Instead of going to a formal restaurant, you might go to a particular house that had converted its front room into an eating space for customers. Instead of going to a videogame arcade, a different house had set up a few gaming consoles in their garage, which had an entry fee just to watch others play, and then an additional fee to pay for a certain amount of time. I believe there were formal road names, but houses and areas were known by distinctive features. My grandparents' house, for example, was at the end of a T intersection and painted orange, so became a local reference point for directions. "Follow this road until you get to the orange house, then take a left, and we're having dinner at the 3rd house on the right" or something like that. It really highlights, maybe, how little day-to-day social interactions have changed beyond material wealth and technology. If you were to drop a medieval person into any major city today, they would probably take a lot of time adjusting. But if you dropped them into my grandparents' town, I think it would have taken very little time for them to adjust.
That sounds more down-to-earth and community-minded than large corporate establishments (which focus on efficiency but at the expense of social quality)
To a degree exists in Southern Italy too. I met for example bakeries that have absolutely no sign on them - unless you look at the door, you won't guess it's not a normal house. But locals know those places and lots of buyers there all time. Same with some stores too.
Watched this fast food video again. Only Jason, the Modern Knight, could make pie shops so interesting and real. Think I'll take my virtual pie from this video to the Ale house video for a virtual tipple to wash it down. 😊
@@VintageExplorer666 He's definitely Sir Jason to us MHTV fans. But he has explained that although CBE is a level of Chivalry, he isn't actually a "Sir" at this level. One level more and he will be. Fingers crossed HM the King promotes him soon.
@@VintageExplorer666 I think he deserves it as historian, presenter and CEO of a successful entertainment empire among other things. Hopefully he will get that next level of recognition. In the meantime, we can continue to enjoy MHTV. Good viewing to you.
I enjoy the last of staging in this video and no theme music. I remember watching a baker in Morocco. Neighbors bring their dough and the baker cooks it up into flat bread and then folds up the stack of flat bread leaves in paper to hand back to the local family. A very efficient way to share the cost of the expensive masonry stove and the effort of building a fire for each household. Very efficient
It's interesting to see this and compare it with the "fast food" of Ancient Rome, particularly the similarities and differences. In Rome a lot of the fast food locations were built into the fronts of the apartments where people lived and tended to be big enough that people could come inside and buy, with counters that had heated pots built into them, almost like a modern deli.
There’s an old nursery rhyme… “Pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake, baker’s man, bake me a cake as fast as you can. Prick it and pat it and mark it with ‘B’, and put it in the oven for baby and me.” Might be a clue as to who the pies were baked for 😊
This nursery rhyme is from a time when people wouldn't have bake ovens in their homes so they would take their pies/breads etc. to the town bake shop. They would bake it for you, marked with your initial so they knew who had what.
Other than onion and mustard, at the right time of year there would be Ramsons (wild garlic) and for a longer period of the year there would be Jack By The Hedge (wild garlic mustard). Stinging nettles were probably used too as a vegetable (I've had stinging nettles in a stew and they taste very good). I'm sure there were all sorts of common edible plants used like Sorrel, dandelion and wild mint like horse mint etc
Nettle is also a popular freshness preserver. I remember the days when meat was transported wrapped in a thick layer of nettles to keep it from spoiling.
@@peterknutsen3070 I don't know, why. Maybe it has to do with the bactericidal effect of nettle leaves - in any case, it has been used for centuries and it works.
@@mindstalk I was thinking of including horseradish but it seems that it probably came here in the later medieval period or at least that is what is thought. But who knows, it might have been here much earlier. I mean its possible that the Romans could have introduced it to Britain. Our earlier history is like a jigsaw puzzle with many pieces that are missing. Only so much written information has survived the journey of time.
I could imagine someone with a few coins in their pocket sitting down in a tavern to get their cup of wine and sending runners ala medieval uber to go fetch bread and meat from nearby cookshops. I would also imagine places like taverns and alehouses which wanted people to linger, and drink more, quickly getting the idea to serve some food as well, as we can see in many different cultures, though tapas jumps to mind.
I can imagine sitting there with a stomach full of weak ale like “you’re telling me I have to go walk to get some food?” “Alright” Sloshes away to pass out elsewhere
I guess the taverns have cross promotions with nearby cookshops and stuff. So you can order meat from Cookshop X and pies from Bakery Y and eat them while drinking in Tavern Z, and these places will send their own boys with the food.
Yes, every pub landlord in England knows to serve salty food to keep the punters thirsty! It seems likely that alehouses would have had deals with local cookshops to share customers and drive business to eachother's establishments. I do wonder what bar snacks were common back then though if you weren't hungry enough for a full pie...
Oh when I worked in retail as a teen people would still say a store was shuttered if it was closed, glass entry door no shutters in sight. I had one manager that would say it was time to shutter up when it was time to close. This was on the East Coast US in the 1970s. Now it makes sense. Thank you!
I like that you have no qualms about interjecting comments about fantasy setting scenarios alongside the history facts. Makes the whole presentation less "stuffy" and overall pleasantly nerdy. 🙂
@@EggnogTheNogomg SAME!!! that's so funny, that's even why I clicked the video because yeah... Doesnt get much fast-foodier than that! Quick, check. Cheap, check. Food sits out for extended periods, definitely check. Lol
5:59 I’m thinking the coarser cut would be from old animals, that is, animals kept and fed for some other purpose than being eaten, such as producing milk, wool or offspring. After a few years, the animal gets too old to do that properly, and so it’s butchered as cheap low-grade meat, sold to people who can’t afford meat from younger animals.
I am with you. And do not forget all the draft animals that where around then. There would have been comparable large amounts of meat too tough to eat when not cooked to death.
@@NoSacredCowFlathat’s kinda what I was thinking. Probably organ meat or parts of the animal that today would probably get ground up and repurposed into something more appetizing or turned into dog food
Simple Simon met a "Pie Man" going to the fair. The verses used today are the first of a longer chapbook history first published in 1764.[1] The character of Simple Simon may have been in circulation much longer, possibly through an Elizabethan chapbook
Thank you kindly. My 2 kids and I watch on the TV after dinner. We all learn something, are entertained, and are not rotting our brains, so thank you for your hard work!
This is a great channel. Been watching for 5 years. It's kinda sad when he shows the medieval period ending with gunshots. No armor could stop a musket ball
Pat it and prick it and mark it with B. The nursery rhyme says that you took your loaves and cakes to the baker where they did a final shaping, slashing the crust and putting an initial on it labeling it for the customer.
I have been enjoying your "medieval food" ever since I first saw the "Medieval food: How healthy was it?" and it's related videos ;-) They also bring back memories of reading David Eddings books where food pops up in several instances like finding an abandoned house with an intact kitchen, good times.
8:24 in the Southern US whole roast pig's feet known as "trotters" are a common sight at festivals. It is a little weird seeing people walk around gnawing on what looks like a bloody foot, since barbeque sauce is usually roughly blood-colored and all. To be fair, it is definitely tasty enough to overlook the aesthetics. Also, my ancestors came up with stargazy pie so I have no right to judge weirdly morbid food. Someone in Cornwall really said "you know what I should do with these fish heads? bake them into the top crust of the pie so they stare accusingly at the heavens"👀.
I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, descendant from Missourians, and pickled pigs feet (what I’ve only heard the uk folk call “trotters”) were something I liked as a lad, and still do even tho the concept is repulsive and the cardiovascular impact is abysmal. Something about the acidic level of PH in the vinegars that ain’t no biohazard living thru that! I also just spent 6 years in Hawaii and there was a very high level of affinity for trotters there as well
@9:05 because I am a cook. How were the pot pies labeled for their "owner" while the dough is still tender you can scribe the initials of the person on it, so after browning from cooking it would be big and easy to read........
Jason, thank you. Whenever I'm curious about a specific historical way of life or event I look it up, but the answers I get are usually quite vague, and leave me wanting to know more of the details. You, bring history to me, and include the tiny details that I seek. Again, thank you. EDIT TO ADD: Perhaps, if you have time, maybe do a video about all the strange little 'objects' people would build into in the walls/thresholds of their huts/homes to ward off evil spirits. Obviously, superstition was a huge part of daily life back then, so maybe you'll have the opportunity to produce a 'mini-series' regarding their superstitions?
A couple of thoughts come to mind... I imagine the difference between penny pies and tuppence pies was one of size but there would have been a temptation to put lower quality ingredients in a penny pie and the law said the filling had to be the same. On the other hand, given that they couldn't cut corners, pie makers might have felt the profit margin on penny pies was too small. The other is that putting your kitchen in the front of the shop, while actually less sanitary, was good advertising. In a world with minimal health standards, it's not a bad thing to have full disclosure of what's going on in your kitchen.
You say minimal health standards, but I feel that is perpetuating the myth of an unclean medieval society, just a bit. Contrary to popular belief, people did bathe, did care about their hygiene and looks--and given there were laws to ensure the food was safe to eat (such as not reheating meat), I think it shows a better understanding of food spoilage and hygiene than we give the medieval folk credit for. It's pretty neat to see that they cared so much to enact laws and fines like that.
@@shawnwolf5961 I have to agree there. I think the frontage was a better idea for the sake of honesty more than anything. You can see the amount of filling going in, you can see they are using piglets and not old mares, the vegetables look fresh and not wilted. Plus the smell of cooking food is not to be underestimated, a hungry patron walks by and smells your food from the kitchen might decide then and there to stop and eat. And then it becomes far less likely the local inspector might take an interest in you, unlike the folks making food in a back area and only bringing out sealed foods.
@@shawnwolf5961 I think it might be more a question of enforcement. From what I understand, Medieval governments had less of an administrative state and less law enforcement. Identified violations would likely be prosecuted, but there would be less proactive enforcement. In that situation, allowing the public to observe the kitchen is more valuable.
@@littlekong7685 In the '90s, I was a 'baker' at a cafe-bakery chain, where all the baking and prep was done front-and-centre behind the counter. Aside from near the cloud of cinnamon around the Doughnut King, the smell of our bread and pastries filled the Food Court. People used to wait for the latest batch of baguettes to come out of the oven so their salad roll could be hot and fresh (and wilted), rather than one of the cold baguettes that had been sitting there for 15 minutes. Now that I've given Doughnut King more than three seconds thought, every doughnut shop ever does exactly the same thing.
I would think it's the opposite actually: the smaller pies won't use much meat and are more affordable, ideal for bringing in clients, so makes sense to use good quality meat. The larger pies consume more meat, but that means it's easier to mix in meats of lower quality without it being noticed Idk about medieval times but this certainly happens in modern times
I really appreciate you taking time out of your busy day as a peasant to learn how to use a time machine and a computer in order to teach us future people about your time.
Thanks to channels like this and Tasting History, my RPG city has things like a Butter Pie house (open 24 hrs) public houses, taverns and separate inns. The lower end inns serve gruel for breakfast and pottages for dinner and have communal sleeping quarters. Thank you for all you do to add a bit of realism and character to my RPG world for me and my friends. Grab your ketchup and crunch away my friends.
I always love seeing an upload on this channel. I too like the idea of an adventurer coming into town and planning out the cook shop, bakery, and tavern they will visit for the meal. Also, the hucksters shouting out "hot pies! hot pies! Geese! Piglets! Come dine! Come dine!" with trays of prepped food.
"Patty cake, patty cake, bakers man, Bake me a cake as fast as you can. Pat it, and prick it, and mark it with a 'B', And put it in the oven for baby and me." An old rhyme, and it could apply to pies as well. Maybe people had their own mark to put on pastries to claim them when cooked? Like a seal on a ring, but bigger?
Roman cities had many 'fast food' shops and today we eat from one end of a street market to the other. People are people no matter the era, and where there is a need, someone will start making and selling it.
Fascinating stuff, I was born and raised in Windsor, and the main shopping street that leads up to the Castle gates is called Peascod Street and there are pea plants carved into the font in the Parish Church in Clewer Village.
I think medieval towns or cities were extremely social and busy. You had to visit 10 different spots to get ingredients for dinner and walk quite a distance at times to go about your business. Even if it was a big market with all you needed you'd stop at every stand and discuss current local affairs and gossip. It was exactly what my gran used to do not more than 40 years ago so why would it be any different back then.
How well-timed! I was musing on medieval street snacks for use in a fictional-fantasy setting, and settled on roasted chestnuts. I guessed mainly based on personal experience, but it made me really curious about it in general! Thanks for the "taste" of historical quick bites :D
Cheap bread with salted butter or farmers cheese, local berries served in a broad leaf (fresh or dried/preserved), small roast fish from the nearest river (stuffed with herbs), crispy pork fat (cracklings. The leftovers from rendering lard), small cakes (think cookie size but soft and sugary bread), boiled salted potatoes (maybe cut in half with a hunk of bacon shoved in), roasted rabbit (two legs per order then any other meat sold on in a hollowed out bun/between two slices of bread soaked with drippings), roasted nuts still in their shells (great for keeping warm in winter), small pies, roast meat on sticks. I feel like peas sold as a bunch of fresh pods would also be an option - easy to pop out snd snack on then dump the pod anywhere to compost.
They said the movie Sweeny Todd was loosely inspired by the pie from cookshops or butcher’s shops. They would use questionable meat in the pies, often with meat infested with maggots or rotted. Since they didn’t have refrigeration and most shops would keep unsold pies way past the time they should have been thrown out, a lot of people got food poisoning or diarrhea (dysentery) would get really sick or even die.
Jason, just a thought but pigs trotters, which are the feet, have been popular right up until recent times. I know my parents used to eat them quite frequently in the 50s, 60s and 70s. Sheep trotters wouldnt be much different except maybe a little smaller. Also you could think of it like a lower shank, the lamb shank is now really common but i can remember it being thought of as poor peoples food in the late 70s early 80s BTW you are one of my fav channels on RUclips, love the effort and research you put in and its always interesting topics 😄
I'm an immigrant to Extremedura, in Spain, and most of my neighbours still eat pig's trotters. They eat the ears and tail too - everything except the squeak, they say. We're very proud of our acorn fed pork here. (I was invited to eat tail - a special meal. It was very tasty, not as gelatinous with cartilage as oxtail.)
Lamb shanks -used- to be cheap, until a few cooking shows told everyone they were fashionable. Now they are ridiculously expensive for the amount of meat you get vs the amount of bone since they are now sold by weight instead of by the piece. Something I came across a few months ago is 'pig wings', a US centric snack made from the smaller trotter of the pig well trimmed & eaten at 'Tailgate BBQ's' and the like. In Australia I see them in some supermarket butchers at 1/3 the price of any meat, even chicken drumsticks & wings (something else that has gotten ridiculously expensive once it was declared fashionable).
I find the everyday lives of people of the past so interesting because I think its the hardest to visualize sometimes. We have plenty of remains of castles, big important buildings where rituals took place, and of course monuments commissioned by royalty like statues, halls, and great buildings. Yet, the towns that history didn't talk about too much, simple cottages, the local pubs/taverns, and streets; those are all gone. We don't have anything left except those people who spend years to recreate them as best as best as they can. We do have historical sites but it's always interesting to me, how little is truly left. Whenever I play video games, there are those where the developers spend years pouring over how to recreate certain points in history as best as they can. Those games I especially love when they let you just walk around and get even a tiny idea of what it was like.
I love this guy. He's like me when I'm telling my girlfriend everything I just learned about ancient Rome. So glad that he gets to share this with us, and that he gets to live a life where he can explore it.
What a great video on so many levels! Brought back some memories. First trip to Ireland & the UK in 1983, Return of the Jedi had just been released. I'm a big fan & saw it at home and then in Dublin, Edinburgh & London. Was amazed at the ice cream vendors at intermission and the bars in the lobbies. We could buy popcorn & sodas in theaters the US then, but not ice cream & booze. 😊
In port towns in South Korea, it's common for a fishing boat and a market fish shop and a restaurant to have an agreement. You can hire the boat and fish your own fish to bring to the associated restaurant to be cooked and eat there, or you can buy fish at the market and go to the associated restaurant to eat. You can also just fish and take home or buy at the market to take home.
Hot cross buns were a thing in the medieval period! The song sounds like someone hawking their wares. There are lots of places with busy market streets that probably sound quite similar to the ones back then. In the end, one of the most effective ways to get people to check out your goods hasn't really changed. 😁
Love watching your videos. I have a theory on what "courser meat" could suggest. This is a stretch but I was just watching a video on the Townsends channel (which discusses colonial history) and they had a video about the rations a prisoner might receive. They reference a historical document (a ledger of rations) provided to a prison in I think it was Philadelphia. That document also makes reference to course meat. It references "Sunday - one pound of course meat made into a broth". I suspect between these are referring to roughly the same thing and that it may be a slang term for the poorer cuts of meat or even perhaps the umbrals (though that has a specific term) which they might have ground and stewed to make a rich broth which would be inexpensive and nourishing. I think the term "course" in this context refers to any meat that is unsuitable for whole cooking and serving and they would be making a broth out of it. The video also references a second document about how prisoners are often fed ox hearts and ox head so perhaps it is a reference to the same thing in this medieval context.
… perhaps the “umbrals” … even my spell check never heard that one. … 🔦... “Umbral is derived from the Latin umbra, meaning "shadow". It is also the Spanish and Portuguese word for "threshold", and sometimes used as a surname ....” Sweet word. Thanks.
@@robkunkel8833 I heard another video on modern history that referred to it as a word for the guts of an animal which I think would be ground up and made into a pie
Not a native English speaker here; I understood it as coarse, not "course", so I gathered it to be leftovers of this and that, a sort of stew of different undistinguished bits (hence coarse); or, alternatively, entrails.
“A coarser meat for the poor.” In nice but not fancy French restaurants in the countryside, I remember having as a first course: turkey esophagus; veal testicles; chicken feet. They ate every part of the animal! I can imagine this was true everywhere; people were hungry for whatever they could get. But in the French countryside, of course they made it delicious.
How this channel doesn't have more than 1M subscribers yet? Not trying to be a drama queen here, but it just says a alot about the world we're living in.
The Crowner John book series (set in ca 1290 Exeter) often has the main characters stopping at stalls to buy various “fast food”. Getting someone else to bake your pies is also a good way to reduce the risk of burning your kitchen (or house) down.
The other day I was reading about the ancient Roman grain dole, wondering how that worked when tenement dwellers didn't have cooking facilities. Wiki said you would take your grain to a baker, for milling and baking.
@@mindstalk I think there was a parallel in medieval times where even if you grew the grain, you still had to have it milled by your lord, mostly so the lord could get income from you in the form of a part of the flour for their own use. And according to this video, if you didn’t have the facilities, a baker would have to bake the bread or whatever for you too. I wonder what the charge was for that service?
I used to have an older colleague in the 1970s whose father had been a baker in Sheffield, England. He told me that people would come with food to be cooked in his ovens, presumably after the bread had been baked, because few had their own oven.
That was so interesting! I don’t dabble much in medieval history, but when something pops up, it’s always fascinating to me that over centuries & millennia, human nature and creature comforts don’t change much! 😂. Thanks for the great video!
I recently spent a week on Mallorca, a (Spanish) Island in the Mediterranean Sea. On the most touristic beach, the Beach of Palma, locals walk among the tanning tourists and peddle drinks. They shout out "Sangria Mojito" "Sangria Mojito"! They have a certain rhythm and melody to the way the shout. It's not really pleasant but it's also not that much disturbing as I always got an earwig from that and as a joke repeated the shouting to the dismay of my friends. I can imagine that the people shouting out for cookeries and bakeries sure came up with melodies and maybe rhymes even to make them sound actually appealing.
@@boatoflol A lot of old songs survive that seem to indicate they did! "Cockles and Mussels alive, alive-o" pops into my head, but I think there's a bab ballad that has an extended melody that's implied to be a vendor's melody. And I know I've seen sheet music someone wrote in a travel diary. (I did the same, in my sketchbook of a trip to Amish County I recorded the musical cadence of a farm auctioneer, I get the impulse!) Not to mention musical theater. "Who will buy / my sweet red roses?" And supposedly, Verdi got one of his famous melodies from a cauliflower vendor - the story varies - but markets were full of annoying repetitive calls.
Up through the 1950s small villages in Italy (and probably throughout Europe) had a central bake oven for making bread. From early in the morning until after dark, on a rotating schedule, Housewives would bring their week's worth of bread to be baked in the communal oven all week long. Often covered pots of soup or small roasts and vegetables were tucked into the corners to cook all day so Italian housewives could do more than just watch a pot.
Hey man how ya doing? I been watching for about a year now and just wanted to say thank you for the hard work you put into these videos. I never fail to learn something as well as be entertained! You’ve sparked an interest which has evolved into a fascination into lives in the past. It’s funny because I find myself questioning how I can find a way to connect ourselves with the people of the past. As I’ve come to think, we are much more alike to those that came before us than we realize. All that has really changed is the “routes” we use to achieve the same feelings. I appreciate the videos and am always excited for a new one!
Excellent stuff Jason! Videos like this that offer "slice of life" topics are endlessly interesting. I wish you'd been around 40 years ago when my D&D group was in full swing, knowledge like this would have made our campaigns so much more realistic. I had an old herb book and drove the DM nuts with always asking about comfrey/woundwort and other healing herbs that my Ranger carried around with him. There have always been tales of shady cooks using dyes/plaster/sawdust and other nefarious means to "spruce up" their products and get higher prices for them. "Cheap" seasonings are amazing, there is so much that can be done with just salt/pepper and a few herbs, some of the best meals I ever ate were made up from whatever we scrounged while deployed in the field in the Army. A snared rabbit, chives, wild garlic, dandelions and the salt/pepper packs from our MREs made an amazing Hasenpfeffer that I still remember fondly.
Thank you Jason for these videos. Your genuine passion and excitement is contagious and I find myself frequently smiling and laughing along with you whenever I watch them.
You remind me of when i visited my moms relatives in Germany in the small towns when i was young. . . People still ran their businesses out of thier homes. My family had a room set up as a grocery for odds and ends like spices and boxed goods ,a few vegtables but the slaughter house and buther was 2 doors down and the dairy for milk was across the way. The farmer still had wagon and horses. I loved the small town living. Now i hesrd that its grown so much the towns are connected. Im glad i got to experience things before grocery stores became a thing there. Also walking from one town to the other was lined with cherry trees. We would get a small branch of them and eat along the way. There were apples but we wouldn't go get those. People grew there own tree and made apple wine for the town.
Love this channel, always so interesting. Also, love the delivery. Nothing too flashy, lovely locations. I feel like im listening to a favorite teacher in high school. Keep up the great work sir!
In South Asia communal oven shops still exist, they use a sequential cooking system to differentiate who brought which loaf to be baked. Perhaps something similiar was used in Medieval Europe.
As always, top-notch information presented beautifully. I still say, these videos should be shown in schools... :) Side note: So, 'fast food' was readily available, and of possibly questionable quality? 'And there is no new thing under the Sun'...
Great film! Very much interesting information, I suppose RPG players and larpers will be very grateful to you for it. The city is mostly a lot of people who need to be fed, and not everyone can afford to have their own kitchen. I lived for many years in Krakow, a city where there was a medieval university - the city and university chronicles speak of particularly many places where ready-made food was sold. There was also a system of feeding poor students linked to charity - every poor student had a pot and a spoon and at lunchtime they could come to a burgher's house and count on the cook to give them something. This was a very popular kind of charity, for which the Krakovian bourgeoisie was probably forgiven many sins 😃
@@glittertechnic I don't think it had a special name, but I could be wrong. Perhaps there is some "pascere pauperes alumni" preserved in the chronicles ("to feed poor students" in Latin) 😃, but I have not come across any particular name.
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maybe the pasties would be stamped in the dough?
Thank you, Ser.
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@modernknight what microphone do you use? Just sounds really clear, despite your location.
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This is what the History Channel should be like.
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He’s featured on HistoryHit, a subscription service for History documentaries and docuseries. I subscribe and I love it.
@@martaleszkiewicz5115 that because he loves what he does.👍
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i love the simplicity of this kind of videos. its literally one man, in period clothing, walking in the woods and talking about medieval life. its so endearing!
Not always 😀Sometimes Jason gives us a really rich show with horses, armor, weapons and even parts of the castle
@minerwaweasley1008 yes, yes! I was just pointing out this specific simple videos! 😃🐎
@@andreluislimaa This one is really stand-up 😄
@@minerwaweasley1008 Castle? I don't recall ever seeing Jason at a castle, unless on older jousting pictures.
@@EmeraldVideosNL Look at the penultimate film, the one about taverns and inns. A castle wall was used as a background.
I love how this channel immerses you into the little things of medieval life!
exactly :)
Agree 100%
Could not agree more 💯
is his clothes historically accurate?
Totally agree
I apologize if my comment is a bot off topic, but when you were speaking about the food vendors that roamed with trays of food cooked elsewhere, it reminded me of being a 4 yr old in a very poor country. We lived in a tenement and there was a food vendor that sold food from a tray, and every single day he made it a point to find me and my sisters to feed us. He was such a kind man. I’ve prayed for him many many times over the years.
That was 50 years ago, and our circumstances changed significantly. I am now an executive in the USA, running the specialty poultry a wholesale food company. My sisters anre anlso quite successful in their chosen professions. Every year my sisters and I pay it forward, in gratitude to a man that only saw three small hungry children and did what he could to help us. We donate food every thanksgiving day, to those less fortunate, focusing on families with children.
I imagine similar things happened in medieval times, for the kind human heart cannot ignore the ability to help hungry children.
We were hungry as my father died of tuberculosis, leaving my mother a widow with small children.
I thank God for the kind nature of others, for it was because of the kind of strangers that we not only survived, but have managed to thrive.
it's so nice to have just someone standing there and telling me about something, no 5 camera angles and peppy background music and stock footage
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amen! Love it
Seriously!
Darn right
I agree! I like this format so much better than the cheesy music & stock footage
I love the addition of talking about fantasy adventurers knowing that a lot of fantasy aspirants would be coming to videos like this for research.
That's why I'm here!
I appreciate it just because I think cultural details are woefully underappreciated in fantasy RPGs. Take me through an alien food market. Tell me about all seven courses of dinner with the wizard queen. Get me hammered on wine spiked with manticore venom.
i believe that's the precise reason why the all-seeing gaze of the algorithms brought me here somehow.
for once i'm glad they did. fantastic ideas for fantasy RPGs and nice food for thought...
@@bootblacking THIS! It's one of the area's I struggled with the most in my Pathfinder campaigns (although I've been having a World of Darkness stint for the last 2 years with my current group.)
Edit: Manticore venom spiked wine sounds like it would be super expensive and only available to rich connoisseurs. Oh I bet you could even have local mercenary/adventurer guilds making a big bug being paid to hunt Manticores for such delicacies. Or even some places where it's made illegal by rulers who see it as a reckless endangerment of humanoid life. Heheh
Me too, I main a healer but lots of aftercare for recovery comes with surgery.
It saddens me that medieval peoples would go their entire lives never experiencing the eXtreme nacho flavor of a single Dorito chip
Or a sip of Mtn Dew Baja Blast 😿
It would probably taste very weird to them. If you get off of junk food for a while, and you try it, it taste different. Like now, when I drink Coca-Cola, I taste dirt. Watch videos of people who try Mountain Dew for the first time. It’s a great example.
@@maryd1495 soda tastes like drinking syurp i hate it especially coca cola i never drank it as a kid and then as a teen it was awful funnily while pregnant it was a craving but now its gross again lol its not that we like it its our bodies love that sugar...its like a drug
That's true. I haven't drank any pop since I was 16 I am now 33 and for the first time yesterday I decided out of curiosity to sip a coke. Oh GOD it was disgusting! I was surprised. I wasn't even a big drinker of pop anyways before though. Yet it never tasted like that I could remember before. I didn't finish it no desire at all for it. It was nasty actually tasted flat even though it was just opened.
GROSS!!!!
My mom was born in the 30’s. Her family lived in a small apartment in Germany. They had a tiny coal stove for heat. No one has a kitchen. It was a large apartment complex too. She remembered her mom mixing up batter for cakes. She then walked it to the bakers to be cooked. It was the same for bread. My Oma (grandma) would prepare the bread dough at home. Then they took the dough to the baker.
I love your telling of history. You paint such a vivid image that I can imagine being there. Thank you
@@danit5146 In India people would do that too for years...... They would make a dough for Nankhathai (Indian Shortbread Cookies) during the festival of Diwali, then thenkuds would be sent to the bakery to bake them.
Like wise we even bought, washed and dried wheat and took it to a nearby mill to grind into fresh whole-wheat flour. It make the freshest rotis (flatbread)
Born in the 1930s...In Germany...What are your thoughts on the AfD? no reason btw
In DK in the cities peoples possibilities for cooking and baking were limited ( the invention of the cast-iron stoved changed that) so it was not unusual to bring crockpots or larger roasts to be cooked at the Bakers ,
@ParinaazMaroliaFM India and Pakistan are 150 years behind the modern world though
@StevenHickman-m4g looking up India on Google will help.
India is very advanced in many ways.
It has long been that America goes to India for high-tech people trained in India.
Oh, and survival is something well practiced in India as it is in America.
I have found our differences are minimal.
My late husband would tell me that when he was a child in Hackney sharing a house with three related families the Sunday roast would be taken to the local cook shop where it would be cooked along with potatoes and rice in the same baking dish and then collected and brought back to the house so that everyone there could partake with the addition of vegetables that had been boiled on the range.
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My father told me similar stories from the 1960s. He would often be given a tray full of food and told to go to the bakery so they could bake it.
It apparently was a relatively common thing, although I can't say how common house ovens were in 1960s Athens.
I live in Luxembourg on the Moselle river and in the 1940s and 1950s people would take a pot of food to the village baker. He would put it in his oven for a fee and the families would collect it , effectively slow cooked, at the end of the day.
Paying for it to be cooked was cheaper than paying for the fuel and watching the oven for hours in case there was a fire.
@@graemer3657 well even in Albania these days that is common,from meat to pies to Baklava.
Madam, around what decade did that happen?
Watching this guy strolling through the woods and geeking out about medieval fast food is the biggest vibe
Honestly right 😂 he seems wonderful
You Gen Z'ers and your "vibes."
@@flashovr24 i would hit you with the ok boomer but I'll hold back
Use English, stop being a child
@@flashovr24getting those boomer vibes off you. Pressed and salty as ever.😂
As for how the cooks knew which pie belonged to which customer who had brought the ingredients: I'm German and both my grandparents from the east of Germany were born in the 19th century. Among what they left we found some little signs of porcelain with pointed ends with their family name engraved and we believe those were used to mark their ownership on breads or stollen (huge German Christmas cakes) they brought to ovens in a shop. Maybe the medieval English citizens had something similar though maybe with some other mark instead of a written name ( not every cook might have been able to read).
There's a nursery rhyme from England
Patty cake, patty cake, bakers man,
Bake me a cake, as fast as you can,
Pat it and prick it and mark it with B
And put it in the oven for baby and me.
This was how communal ovens worked. You brought your bread or pies to the oven and they were marked with a mark you provided, then given to you when baked in exchange for money.
I always thought prick and mark it with a B meant piercing the surface of the pastry so that the piercings make a B shape, not that they would be sticking some sort of skewer into the bread with a B engraved upon the skewer
Roll out some pastry and form it on the pie top into a unique mark.
Villages also had municipal ovens that could easily have used this sort of thing as markers.
Much as chocolatiers swirl different marks on filled chocolates to identify the filling.
When I was very young, that's about 60 years ago in Malta food was not usually baked at home as very few people had an oven, they used to take the prepared dish to the local bakery where it was baked for a tiny amount of money, a small metal plate with a number was placed on the inside of the dish and a duplicate one with the same number was given to the owner to be used when the food was later picked up, usually we used to take the dish around 10 in the morning to be ready by noon, times changed but those were lovely times, I imagine something similar used to happen in medieval times.
@@NCX-mt5sy wow, that’s really interesting!
I am not a historian, but I am pretty sure decorations on pies started as a way for people to identify their dish. As in, “My pie is the one with the oak leaf.” To this day, I still know which one is Aunt Elizabeth’s.
Many places with communal ovens, even in the Pompeii ruins, have ways of marking whose bread is whose, …so a plausible theory.
Regarding the shop fronts, just 30 years ago I moved to King's Lynn and at the bottom (poorer) end of the old main road (Norfolk Street) quite a few shops had no closed frontage but were open to the street (boarded up when closed) and often sold only a single product I.e. there was the Egg man (just sold eggs), the spud shop (just sold potatoes), the cockle man (would sell locally caught shellfish) etc etc.
They've all closed since then and been updated over the last 30 years, all the shops now have the usual glass frontage and become "normal" shops.
Mindblowing to think practices normal to the medieval age were still quite normal just 20/30 years ago.
Very interesting about Taxes v.s. the size of the front of a building! The same was true in Kyoto for a very long time. I wonder what the logic is...
@@6400loser Simple. Busy road frontage means more customer eyeballs. More frontage is more eyeball space being taken up where potentially another shop could be. I wouldn't say the real estate structure in today's cities is really all that different. Prime real estate means prime prices and high taxes, it just might not necessarily rely on the width of frontage for the calculation... though it might. Square footage will be a significant factor in today's calculation.
@@YesYes-xb6he Well England is a mostly backward country, so not surprised.
"Baking fraud" is not a phrase I ever thought I would hear.
That's why there's the baker's dozen
It’s when you tell everyone at the bake sale that everything is homemade, but you bought it from Costco.
hah! check out "bread" in russia during nazi invasion and the following decades up until 2001
It still happens, the Horsemeat scandal.
Thank your government! Less chalk and rubbish in your bread, by law!
When I went to Cairo a few years ago, I visited a Baker who received all his neighbours loaves for baking each day and was paid a small amount for doing so. I believe each loaf had a small mark or was fashioned slightly differently indicating who it belonged to.
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This is probably how they did it everywhere. I know they did a similar thing in one of the stans (maybe Khazakhstan).
Communal ovens have been a thing wherever bread is baked since urbanization began. Ovens are large. Require significant amount of work to built. A _lot_ of fuel and are a serious fire hazard; the Great Fire of London is believed to have started in a bakery.
@@Arkantos117 not Kazakhstan, Bukhara.... Uzbekistan.. community ovens existed in these caravan cities
I 've binged some scanned German ladies' magazines from 19th century on one internet site of the University of Düsseldorf. There was stuff about fashion, celebrities, crafting and lots of recipes for cooking and baking, like today.
In 1860ies, 1870ies the recipes for bread and cakes only told how to prepare the batter, no information about temperature or time but "bring it to the baker and let him bake it".
The cook's street sounds a little like the food court in a modern shopping mall.
I was just scolling through to see if anyone else had said it! This sounds very much like modern food courts and vendors' streets to me too, the tech and tools are just a little different.
Yes, drinks from one vendor, food from another and desert from the third. Your friend decides to buy their stuff from different vendors without any inconvenience of splitting up: you just agree where you are eating your food.
The disappearing shopping mall. Globalists don't want communities to exist, nor any environment where one may be cultured.
In south America we had large open air markets, and they would always have rows of food stalls in one place or another. You didn't walk from one to another, but you could sit down and eat. We also had food carts scattered throughout and those you would walk from one to another collecting your meal.
I suspect that similarly the medieval cook street mostly had small sit down establishments if you were going to the trouble of walking there, but many of the shops would specialize in producing food for the street vendors to sell wherever people were. Odds are many children helped their families by reselling small quantities of food.
Edit: I failed to make it clear that these were indeed very much like food courts in American malls and airports.
@vidard9863 Had a teacher in high school who traveled in South America a LOT. He taught us what couey is and a lot of the customs from down there.
I would speculate that "coarser meat" probably meant things like potted meat, salted or otherwise preserved meats that the poor would have access to.
Tripe and brawn. Lungs and lights. Chitterlings.
@@fainitesbarley2245 Yeah organs, udders, grissle, everything that wouldn't go into a sausage. At one point the combs of roosters were actually a fancy food to go into a pie but I think it would be nasty, steamed in there.
The first stereotype my mind goes to when think about "coarser meat" in the medieval ages is definitely rats, dog, and horse. That's probably not accurate for the majority of places though, so my actual guess might what you would find as cheaper food in food markets in Asia/Africa. Snails, snakes, pig ears, chicken feet, miscellaneous fermented things, etc. are all found in modern day food markets, so I imagine similar cuts but with less seasoning than the modern versions
@@pwnmonkeyisreal Oh they would never admit to the first two and horse was a rare but totally acceptable expensive meat, like beef.
They slaughtered animals much later so it will often be less inclined to be tender, an old wilk cow or ox, or sheep. More flavor and fat but takes a longer time cooking and the cheaper cuts certainly would have tendons and grissle.
@@pwnmonkeyisreal I feel like horse would be an uncommon meat, as people were likely not slaughtering horses unless they were old, ill, or had other serious issues.
Horses were expensive, working animals, and were probably worth more alive, than dead, for the vast majority of people.
Detailing the food and drink of a setting really makes a fictional world feel alive. Take your reader or players through a busy city market and you can have them introduced to a lot of your world in a quick and organic way.
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Coincidentally, it also makes the actual real-world past feel alive.
This is what makes D&D cookbooks so fun. They make settings seem more alive when you have an idea of what the foods are, and can even make a version IRL.
Brian Jacques of Redwall was certainly the same way. Always worked up an appetite reading his stuff
This humble peasant traveled so frickin hard, he found himself a wormhole and traveled in time to our current time, and he's kind enough to give us a first hand account on what life in medieval times looked like. You gotta admire that!
Nah. I think he’s just a modern guy dressed like they used to.
@@Heywoodthepeckerwood No it's true, I am also a time travelling medieval peasant
@@creativecipher the. Why does he use the long and short vowels correctly? Do they put you through a class first? Or do you just observe and try to wing it?
@@Heywoodthepeckerwood im also a medieval time traveler! This video is very accurate!
@@Heywoodthepeckerwood bro he’s literally a time traveling medieval peasant how do you not see it
In german speaking countries, a store is still also called “ein Laden”, which is the german Name for board. Ladenöffnungszeit means which time the board is open.
That's a mouthful!
That's very interesting, and a great observation that connects cultures over time!
Thank you for sharing this 🙂
@@theresamc4578 Literally _boardopeningtime_ in English (if we had such a word).
@@andreafalconiero9089 but we tend to say just "Öffnungzeiten" for short
I can answer the question of how someone would know which pie was theirs at a bake shop. Apparently every family had a distinctive design that would be pricked into the top crust. I learned this from a friend who uses her family’s design on pies to this very day. It’s been handed down from mother/aunt to daughter since at least Victorian times.
Yeah, I'd wait and watch them putting my pie together, see the mark they put on the top, and then wander around or go drink while it cooked. Make sure the mark was right when I picked my pie up.
Thanks for creating this channel. It’s so interesting. It’s a surprisingly lesser covered topic. For example, I can understand the daily routine of a middle class Victorian Londoner thanks to the books I’ve read. Same with the Georgian era. But I had no idea medieval peasants actually had such busy and interesting lives. They don’t seem as far away from us as I once thought. Just subscribed!
Glad you enjoy it!
Re having a shop cook your food for you, I've done that in Kuwait. You can buy a large fish such as a hamour (rock cod) at the fish market and take it to a bakery. They will spice the fish and then bake it in a tandoor oven for you. Tastes delicious!
Here is my town in Alaska that's an option, you can take your fish to certain local restaurants and they will cook your fish for you.
@@tedmounsteven621 some restaurants here in Florida will cook your fish you catch fresh the same day. There is one restaurant in the area that will give you unlimited fries too.
@@ryanbales8116 yes! My grandpa loves fishing and used to go catch a fish and take it to a restaurant on the water in Tampa Bay. They would cook it up for you for free with a side like fries or salad, in exchange they keep the amount of fish you don't eat (most people were catching big ocean fish like grouper that you couldn't eat yourself in one sitting). It's a cool system. You get your fish cooked, and the restaurant can sell same-day caught fish to the other patrons without having to rely so much on big fisheries or imports.
That exists in America too, though usually it's intended for fish you've caught yourself rather than fish you buy at the market.
@@ryanbales8116 same on Jekyll Island, Ga.
One of the musical instruments you describe in Piers Plowman is called a psaltery. This is an ancient instrument associated with King David of the Psalms. The psaltery is a wooden box that is strung and can be plucked or strummed as a kind of harp. These are still being played today. Psalteries or “lap harps” are often used for education in music for children especially in Eastern Europe. Richard Harvey, the well known theatrical and movie composer, used one to create the score for the film, “Gladiator “ because of it’s beautiful, silvery sound.
If I ever win the powerball, I'm gifting the History Channel to this man.
Thank you so much for an easily understood explanation of medieval fast food. I am an 80 year old widow, and my ears don’t hear as well, nor does my brain assimilate information as quickly as even just 10 years ago. Thanks again. I hope to be attending my first REN Festival, in Texas, this fall, and am immersing myself in the times as much as I can. Thank goodness for the internet! (Although, “Goodness had nothing to do with it,” as Mae West said.)
Welcome and I hope you enjoy the renfaire.
You can slow it down by going to settings , upper right on screen, looks like a cog. And slow the speed down. Voice will be slower but you maybe able to keep up with fast talkers.
I'm neither English nor American, but sometimes English presenters need 0.75 while American need 1.25. 😂😂😂 💚☪️🤲 But I love the content anyhow 🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊 from Malaysia 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
@@ModernKnightI loved the RENFest, but at 80, I will probably not go to that venue again, simply because it is so large. But I shall definitely go to another one, just smaller in area. And tent camping was so much fun! First time in 47 years for the camping. Your videos are absolutely fascinating and informative. Thank you.
Regarding the narrow shop frontages the shop fronts of Cirencester old town are all in multiples of 22 feet (11ft, 22ft, 33ft and 44ft) as the Roman layout was with 22ft shop fronts. There was very little change in the property boundaries outside of these measurements for nearly 2,000 years, possibly why we see very narrow shop fronts in old market squares and such. So many layers of history.
I really enjoy that you obviously love what you are talking about. At times you can see the pure joy on your face.
Gotta love the medieval Yelp review on the "dodgy cook shop."
Jason first I want to say I love these videos and I am always excited when they come out. You're also well known for your successful video game company and I would absolutely love to see you go into the medieval genre. Your interest and dedication to history would make it absolutely incredible in a video game
Holy shit I've been watching this guy for ages and had no idea he co-founded Rebellion, haha. Wild!
@@KingofCrusher same haha
I love to watch the stock introduction seeing pride of accomplishment when he chops that poor watermelon in two. 🍉🗡️🍉
the dude is a bit of a legend@@KingofCrusher
I can totally see Jason coming up with a Kingdom Come: Deliverance style game set in England. Maybe... the late Viking/ early Norman period. Aghh... a man can dream !😌
I cherish this channel so much. Nobody understands day-to-day medieval life better than Jason. Even after years of watching your channel you still manage to transport me back in time to a bustling, lively, energetic marketplace. Heartfelt thanks to you, sir
1:21 medieval race bike...
@@v6in6ie6t lol, thank you good sir!
Knights Templar going 300km/hr across the world
😂
I reckon people physically interacted a lot more back in the middle ages. If you have to walk to the cookshop, the baker and the alehouse to get a decent dinner then you are going to meet a lot more neighbours than ordering a meal online or going to a supermarket self-checkout.
In many parts of the world, people still live like this. My husband walks to the bakery every day for our bread. He also frequents the fruit and vegetable stands. Our meats are delivered. We travel an hour down our mountain, once a month, for bulk goods.
Not only neighbours, you get to know all the staff. (Who may also be neighbours, sure.)
@@marionky Apparently a lot of places in Europe people still only use a fridge for storing holiday foods, day to day they probably don't have enough food to justify turning it on as they go to the shops every day. One friend lived in a house i Amsterdam for 6 months, he couldn't get a fridge if he wanted to, but he was also between a bakery and grocery and across from a restaurant.
Eh, it’s really only the last few decades where this kind of social interaction has been destroyed in the west, and it’s turning everyone into socially awkward weirdos.
@@littlekong7685 Im European (Norwegian) and not having a fridge sounds straight up absurd to me. But perhaps further south on the continent, in big cities, having an empty fridge is a realistic option? I dont know why anyone would want to do that though...
I believe that a lot of this is still culturally true around the world. Growing up, I'd spend the occasional summer at my grandparents' house in rural Guatemala, and you'd buy food and drink from vendors selling from carts or bags. Instead of going to a formal restaurant, you might go to a particular house that had converted its front room into an eating space for customers. Instead of going to a videogame arcade, a different house had set up a few gaming consoles in their garage, which had an entry fee just to watch others play, and then an additional fee to pay for a certain amount of time.
I believe there were formal road names, but houses and areas were known by distinctive features. My grandparents' house, for example, was at the end of a T intersection and painted orange, so became a local reference point for directions. "Follow this road until you get to the orange house, then take a left, and we're having dinner at the 3rd house on the right" or something like that.
It really highlights, maybe, how little day-to-day social interactions have changed beyond material wealth and technology. If you were to drop a medieval person into any major city today, they would probably take a lot of time adjusting. But if you dropped them into my grandparents' town, I think it would have taken very little time for them to adjust.
That's a very interesting insight, thank you!
That sounds like my uncles neighborhood in Ohio before crack happened
Lets Plays before there were Lets Plays. Interesting!
That sounds more down-to-earth and community-minded than large corporate establishments (which focus on efficiency but at the expense of social quality)
To a degree exists in Southern Italy too. I met for example bakeries that have absolutely no sign on them - unless you look at the door, you won't guess it's not a normal house. But locals know those places and lots of buyers there all time. Same with some stores too.
Watched this fast food video again. Only Jason, the Modern Knight, could make pie shops so interesting and real. Think I'll take my virtual pie from this video to the Ale house video for a virtual tipple to wash it down. 😊
Sir Jason
@@VintageExplorer666 He's definitely Sir Jason to us MHTV fans. But he has explained that although CBE is a level of Chivalry, he isn't actually a "Sir" at this level. One level more and he will be. Fingers crossed HM the King promotes him soon.
@LynneFarr thanks for clearing that up. I actually presumed he was Knighted, perhaps, for his work as an historian lol
@@VintageExplorer666 I think he deserves it as historian, presenter and CEO of a successful entertainment empire among other things. Hopefully he will get that next level of recognition. In the meantime, we can continue to enjoy MHTV. Good viewing to you.
I enjoy the last of staging in this video and no theme music.
I remember watching a baker in Morocco. Neighbors bring their dough and the baker cooks it up into flat bread and then folds up the stack of flat bread leaves in paper to hand back to the local family. A very efficient way to share the cost of the expensive masonry stove and the effort of building a fire for each household. Very efficient
It's interesting to see this and compare it with the "fast food" of Ancient Rome, particularly the similarities and differences. In Rome a lot of the fast food locations were built into the fronts of the apartments where people lived and tended to be big enough that people could come inside and buy, with counters that had heated pots built into them, almost like a modern deli.
In Pompeii also
I’d love to have a time machine
Owning a kitchen was not guaranteed in industrialization Europe either. Not when room to simply sleep was short and fuel and time cost.
Apartment deli is genius
@@Peptuck Never knew a QPC. Can you imagine. I guess if you were a Celt it gives a whole new perspective on a Big Mac.
There’s an old nursery rhyme… “Pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake, baker’s man, bake me a cake as fast as you can. Prick it and pat it and mark it with ‘B’, and put it in the oven for baby and me.”
Might be a clue as to who the pies were baked for 😊
This nursery rhyme is from a time when people wouldn't have bake ovens in their homes so they would take their pies/breads etc. to the town bake shop. They would bake it for you, marked with your initial so they knew who had what.
@@jeannerobin1146 Communal ovens were so important in those times
Sounds like the baker put a bun in the oven. 😅
@@nathankeesler428
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Oh gods damn it you’re probably right, my guy is baking pies for his bastard kids as child support lmao
@@jeannerobin1146 I know the nursery rhyme but never put that together. Thanks
If I saw you walking around the woods I’d think you’re a wizard
He would then explain to you what medieval people thought of wizards and magic then walk away...
@@breach258 History Wizard casts Knowledge Spell. It was super informative!
He is.
@@breach258 Definitely a wizard who mastered time travel then.
i would dig some "call of the wintermoon" vibes
Coarser meat? "Rat burgers! Get your rat burgers here!"
“Este carne es de rata!”
@junkalchemy still better than Taco Bell.
Other than onion and mustard, at the right time of year there would be Ramsons (wild garlic) and for a longer period of the year there would be Jack By The Hedge (wild garlic mustard).
Stinging nettles were probably used too as a vegetable (I've had stinging nettles in a stew and they taste very good). I'm sure there were all sorts of common edible plants used like Sorrel, dandelion and wild mint like horse mint etc
Nettle is also a popular freshness preserver. I remember the days when meat was transported wrapped in a thick layer of nettles to keep it from spoiling.
I would think horseradish, too?
@@minerwaweasley1008Why do the nettles have that effect?
@@peterknutsen3070 I don't know, why. Maybe it has to do with the bactericidal effect of nettle leaves - in any case, it has been used for centuries and it works.
@@mindstalk I was thinking of including horseradish but it seems that it probably came here in the later medieval period or at least that is what is thought. But who knows, it might have been here much earlier. I mean its possible that the Romans could have introduced it to Britain. Our earlier history is like a jigsaw puzzle with many pieces that are missing. Only so much written information has survived the journey of time.
I could imagine someone with a few coins in their pocket sitting down in a tavern to get their cup of wine and sending runners ala medieval uber to go fetch bread and meat from nearby cookshops. I would also imagine places like taverns and alehouses which wanted people to linger, and drink more, quickly getting the idea to serve some food as well, as we can see in many different cultures, though tapas jumps to mind.
Probably plenty of kids around offering this kind of service, and I guess they would even haggle the price and pocket the difference.
@@Edino_Chattino Zactly.
I can imagine sitting there with a stomach full of weak ale like “you’re telling me I have to go walk to get some food?” “Alright”
Sloshes away to pass out elsewhere
I guess the taverns have cross promotions with nearby cookshops and stuff. So you can order meat from Cookshop X and pies from Bakery Y and eat them while drinking in Tavern Z, and these places will send their own boys with the food.
Yes, every pub landlord in England knows to serve salty food to keep the punters thirsty! It seems likely that alehouses would have had deals with local cookshops to share customers and drive business to eachother's establishments. I do wonder what bar snacks were common back then though if you weren't hungry enough for a full pie...
i always feel so safe watching these videos, they’re like a break from normal life. It almost feels like i’m back in a simpler time
You are, we all are when we enjoy this content
Oh when I worked in retail as a teen people would still say a store was shuttered if it was closed, glass entry door no shutters in sight. I had one manager that would say it was time to shutter up when it was time to close. This was on the East Coast US in the 1970s. Now it makes sense. Thank you!
@@hannakinn A lot of shops in UK and Europe still have shutters
I like that you have no qualms about interjecting comments about fantasy setting scenarios alongside the history facts. Makes the whole presentation less "stuffy" and overall pleasantly nerdy. 🙂
He knows his audience!
The first thing I thought of were the “pot shops” from A Song of Ice and Fire.
@@EggnogTheNogomg SAME!!! that's so funny, that's even why I clicked the video because yeah... Doesnt get much fast-foodier than that!
Quick, check. Cheap, check. Food sits out for extended periods, definitely check. Lol
Some of us subscribe here because we are interested in history and some because of fantasy and some both.
@@sevenproxies4255 rat on a stick?
love how he looks like a wizard, i fell down a rabbit hole of watching D&D videos to this, very chill
5:59 I’m thinking the coarser cut would be from old animals, that is, animals kept and fed for some other purpose than being eaten, such as producing milk, wool or offspring. After a few years, the animal gets too old to do that properly, and so it’s butchered as cheap low-grade meat, sold to people who can’t afford meat from younger animals.
I am with you. And do not forget all the draft animals that where around then.
There would have been comparable large amounts of meat too tough to eat when not cooked to death.
Coarse would be the toughest worst cuts of meat, also offal like kidneys, liver, heart, etc.
@@NoSacredCowFlathat’s kinda what I was thinking. Probably organ meat or parts of the animal that today would probably get ground up and repurposed into something more appetizing or turned into dog food
@@peterknutsen3070 i would have guessed that rather than that it would be less desired parts of the animals, like organs, liver, brain and such
Or rats, it could have been rats
Simple Simon met a "Pie Man" going to the fair. The verses used today are the first of a longer chapbook history first published in 1764.[1] The character of Simple Simon may have been in circulation much longer, possibly through an Elizabethan chapbook
Just started watching your channel a few days ago and have binged a ton of them! Stoked to see this new one up. Here is to many more, cheers!
Welcome aboard!
Thank you kindly. My 2 kids and I watch on the TV after dinner. We all learn something, are entertained, and are not rotting our brains, so thank you for your hard work!
Yeah, it's always a small thrill when Jason & crew release a video.
This is a great channel. Been watching for 5 years. It's kinda sad when he shows the medieval period ending with gunshots. No armor could stop a musket ball
Pat it and prick it and mark it with B.
The nursery rhyme says that you took your loaves and cakes to the baker where they did a final shaping, slashing the crust and putting an initial on it labeling it for the customer.
I have been enjoying your "medieval food" ever since I first saw the "Medieval food: How healthy was it?" and it's related videos ;-)
They also bring back memories of reading David Eddings books where food pops up in several instances like finding an abandoned house with an intact kitchen, good times.
8:24 in the Southern US whole roast pig's feet known as "trotters" are a common sight at festivals. It is a little weird seeing people walk around gnawing on what looks like a bloody foot, since barbeque sauce is usually roughly blood-colored and all. To be fair, it is definitely tasty enough to overlook the aesthetics. Also, my ancestors came up with stargazy pie so I have no right to judge weirdly morbid food. Someone in Cornwall really said "you know what I should do with these fish heads? bake them into the top crust of the pie so they stare accusingly at the heavens"👀.
I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, descendant from Missourians, and pickled pigs feet (what I’ve only heard the uk folk call “trotters”) were something I liked as a lad, and still do even tho the concept is repulsive and the cardiovascular impact is abysmal. Something about the acidic level of PH in the vinegars that ain’t no biohazard living thru that!
I also just spent 6 years in Hawaii and there was a very high level of affinity for trotters there as well
@9:05 because I am a cook. How were the pot pies labeled for their "owner" while the dough is still tender you can scribe the initials of the person on it, so after browning from cooking it would be big and easy to read........
Pat it and prick it and mark it with b. Put it in the oven for baby and me. Nursery rhymes are snippets of history.
Perhaps with a strip of dough, you make a raised mark.
Jason, thank you. Whenever I'm curious about a specific historical way of life or event I look it up, but the answers I get are usually quite vague, and leave me wanting to know more of the details. You, bring history to me, and include the tiny details that I seek. Again, thank you.
EDIT TO ADD: Perhaps, if you have time, maybe do a video about all the strange little 'objects' people would build into in the walls/thresholds of their huts/homes to ward off evil spirits. Obviously, superstition was a huge part of daily life back then, so maybe you'll have the opportunity to produce a 'mini-series' regarding their superstitions?
Lmao i love those little _definitely not pagan, totally good christian_ wards. I saw a lot of them on thresholds in Bretagne.
A couple of thoughts come to mind... I imagine the difference between penny pies and tuppence pies was one of size but there would have been a temptation to put lower quality ingredients in a penny pie and the law said the filling had to be the same. On the other hand, given that they couldn't cut corners, pie makers might have felt the profit margin on penny pies was too small.
The other is that putting your kitchen in the front of the shop, while actually less sanitary, was good advertising. In a world with minimal health standards, it's not a bad thing to have full disclosure of what's going on in your kitchen.
You say minimal health standards, but I feel that is perpetuating the myth of an unclean medieval society, just a bit. Contrary to popular belief, people did bathe, did care about their hygiene and looks--and given there were laws to ensure the food was safe to eat (such as not reheating meat), I think it shows a better understanding of food spoilage and hygiene than we give the medieval folk credit for.
It's pretty neat to see that they cared so much to enact laws and fines like that.
@@shawnwolf5961 I have to agree there. I think the frontage was a better idea for the sake of honesty more than anything. You can see the amount of filling going in, you can see they are using piglets and not old mares, the vegetables look fresh and not wilted. Plus the smell of cooking food is not to be underestimated, a hungry patron walks by and smells your food from the kitchen might decide then and there to stop and eat. And then it becomes far less likely the local inspector might take an interest in you, unlike the folks making food in a back area and only bringing out sealed foods.
@@shawnwolf5961 I think it might be more a question of enforcement. From what I understand, Medieval governments had less of an administrative state and less law enforcement. Identified violations would likely be prosecuted, but there would be less proactive enforcement. In that situation, allowing the public to observe the kitchen is more valuable.
@@littlekong7685 In the '90s, I was a 'baker' at a cafe-bakery chain, where all the baking and prep was done front-and-centre behind the counter. Aside from near the cloud of cinnamon around the Doughnut King, the smell of our bread and pastries filled the Food Court. People used to wait for the latest batch of baguettes to come out of the oven so their salad roll could be hot and fresh (and wilted), rather than one of the cold baguettes that had been sitting there for 15 minutes.
Now that I've given Doughnut King more than three seconds thought, every doughnut shop ever does exactly the same thing.
I would think it's the opposite actually: the smaller pies won't use much meat and are more affordable, ideal for bringing in clients, so makes sense to use good quality meat.
The larger pies consume more meat, but that means it's easier to mix in meats of lower quality without it being noticed
Idk about medieval times but this certainly happens in modern times
I really appreciate you taking time out of your busy day as a peasant to learn how to use a time machine and a computer in order to teach us future people about your time.
Medieval check. Food check. What more can one wish for?
I love all your medieval food episodes in particular.
Thanks to channels like this and Tasting History, my RPG city has things like a Butter Pie house (open 24 hrs) public houses, taverns and separate inns. The lower end inns serve gruel for breakfast and pottages for dinner and have communal sleeping quarters.
Thank you for all you do to add a bit of realism and character to my RPG world for me and my friends.
Grab your ketchup and crunch away my friends.
...for you are crunchy and go good with ketchup?
I always love seeing an upload on this channel. I too like the idea of an adventurer coming into town and planning out the cook shop, bakery, and tavern they will visit for the meal. Also, the hucksters shouting out "hot pies! hot pies! Geese! Piglets! Come dine! Come dine!" with trays of prepped food.
"Patty cake, patty cake, bakers man,
Bake me a cake as fast as you can.
Pat it, and prick it, and mark it with a 'B',
And put it in the oven for baby and me."
An old rhyme, and it could apply to pies as well. Maybe people had their own mark to put on pastries to claim them when cooked? Like a seal on a ring, but bigger?
Roman cities had many 'fast food' shops and today we eat from one end of a street market to the other. People are people no matter the era, and where there is a need, someone will start making and selling it.
Yeah capitalism!
C.M.O.T. Dibbler: "Sausage inna bun!"
@@carolferguson More like yay the natural course of human development as long as there’s no elite telling them what to do and not to do
Fascinating stuff, I was born and raised in Windsor, and the main shopping street that leads up to the Castle gates is called Peascod Street and there are pea plants carved into the font in the Parish Church in Clewer Village.
Wow cool
Peascod as described sounds similar to edamame (except peas instead of soybeans)
0:10 White Castle
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Thank you for the LOL. Because I really did laugh OUT LOUD 😂
At my local German Christmas market there's soupy meat and veggies filled into a hollowed out bread. I wonder 🤔 if something like that was a thing.
I think medieval towns or cities were extremely social and busy. You had to visit 10 different spots to get ingredients for dinner and walk quite a distance at times to go about your business. Even if it was a big market with all you needed you'd stop at every stand and discuss current local affairs and gossip. It was exactly what my gran used to do not more than 40 years ago so why would it be any different back then.
This channel has been great for getting a really good and accurate idea of medieval life, especially for fantasy writing 10/10 excellent work!
Glad you like them!
How well-timed! I was musing on medieval street snacks for use in a fictional-fantasy setting, and settled on roasted chestnuts. I guessed mainly based on personal experience, but it made me really curious about it in general! Thanks for the "taste" of historical quick bites :D
The museum of Aargau reconstructed a mobile oven from the 15th century.
A backing oven on wheels!
Cheap bread with salted butter or farmers cheese, local berries served in a broad leaf (fresh or dried/preserved), small roast fish from the nearest river (stuffed with herbs), crispy pork fat (cracklings. The leftovers from rendering lard), small cakes (think cookie size but soft and sugary bread), boiled salted potatoes (maybe cut in half with a hunk of bacon shoved in), roasted rabbit (two legs per order then any other meat sold on in a hollowed out bun/between two slices of bread soaked with drippings), roasted nuts still in their shells (great for keeping warm in winter), small pies, roast meat on sticks.
I feel like peas sold as a bunch of fresh pods would also be an option - easy to pop out snd snack on then dump the pod anywhere to compost.
In the medieval era potatoes hadn't made it to Europe yet
They said the movie Sweeny Todd was loosely inspired by the pie from cookshops or butcher’s shops. They would use questionable meat in the pies, often with meat infested with maggots or rotted. Since they didn’t have refrigeration and most shops would keep unsold pies way past the time they should have been thrown out, a lot of people got food poisoning or diarrhea (dysentery) would get really sick or even die.
This channel needs a podcast, I'd be listening to it all day
Jason, just a thought but pigs trotters, which are the feet, have been popular right up until recent times. I know my parents used to eat them quite frequently in the 50s, 60s and 70s. Sheep trotters wouldnt be much different except maybe a little smaller. Also you could think of it like a lower shank, the lamb shank is now really common but i can remember it being thought of as poor peoples food in the late 70s early 80s
BTW you are one of my fav channels on RUclips, love the effort and research you put in and its always interesting topics 😄
I'm an immigrant to Extremedura, in Spain, and most of my neighbours still eat pig's trotters. They eat the ears and tail too - everything except the squeak, they say. We're very proud of our acorn fed pork here. (I was invited to eat tail - a special meal. It was very tasty, not as gelatinous with cartilage as oxtail.)
Chinese pig trotters are still a thing. Braised pig trotters and such.
Pig ears are a delight; chicken feet too
Hmm I suppose ear can be quite crispy?
Lamb shanks -used- to be cheap, until a few cooking shows told everyone they were fashionable. Now they are ridiculously expensive for the amount of meat you get vs the amount of bone since they are now sold by weight instead of by the piece. Something I came across a few months ago is 'pig wings', a US centric snack made from the smaller trotter of the pig well trimmed & eaten at 'Tailgate BBQ's' and the like. In Australia I see them in some supermarket butchers at 1/3 the price of any meat, even chicken drumsticks & wings (something else that has gotten ridiculously expensive once it was declared fashionable).
So much more interested in this everyday stuff than war and combat.
I find the everyday lives of people of the past so interesting because I think its the hardest to visualize sometimes. We have plenty of remains of castles, big important buildings where rituals took place, and of course monuments commissioned by royalty like statues, halls, and great buildings. Yet, the towns that history didn't talk about too much, simple cottages, the local pubs/taverns, and streets; those are all gone. We don't have anything left except those people who spend years to recreate them as best as best as they can. We do have historical sites but it's always interesting to me, how little is truly left. Whenever I play video games, there are those where the developers spend years pouring over how to recreate certain points in history as best as they can. Those games I especially love when they let you just walk around and get even a tiny idea of what it was like.
I love this guy. He's like me when I'm telling my girlfriend everything I just learned about ancient Rome. So glad that he gets to share this with us, and that he gets to live a life where he can explore it.
Reminds me of eating at modern fairs. Hard to get your whole meal together & find somewhere to eat it in peace.
What a great video on so many levels! Brought back some memories. First trip to Ireland & the UK in 1983, Return of the Jedi had just been released. I'm a big fan & saw it at home and then in Dublin, Edinburgh & London. Was amazed at the ice cream vendors at intermission and the bars in the lobbies. We could buy popcorn & sodas in theaters the US then, but not ice cream & booze. 😊
There used to be a theater in the Chicago area where you could sit at a ta NJ le and actually served a meal during the movie.
@@mpetersen6we have all of that in the US now (sadly)
In port towns in South Korea, it's common for a fishing boat and a market fish shop and a restaurant to have an agreement. You can hire the boat and fish your own fish to bring to the associated restaurant to be cooked and eat there, or you can buy fish at the market and go to the associated restaurant to eat. You can also just fish and take home or buy at the market to take home.
Hot cross buns were a thing in the medieval period! The song sounds like someone hawking their wares.
There are lots of places with busy market streets that probably sound quite similar to the ones back then. In the end, one of the most effective ways to get people to check out your goods hasn't really changed. 😁
Love watching your videos. I have a theory on what "courser meat" could suggest. This is a stretch but I was just watching a video on the Townsends channel (which discusses colonial history) and they had a video about the rations a prisoner might receive. They reference a historical document (a ledger of rations) provided to a prison in I think it was Philadelphia. That document also makes reference to course meat. It references "Sunday - one pound of course meat made into a broth". I suspect between these are referring to roughly the same thing and that it may be a slang term for the poorer cuts of meat or even perhaps the umbrals (though that has a specific term) which they might have ground and stewed to make a rich broth which would be inexpensive and nourishing. I think the term "course" in this context refers to any meat that is unsuitable for whole cooking and serving and they would be making a broth out of it. The video also references a second document about how prisoners are often fed ox hearts and ox head so perhaps it is a reference to the same thing in this medieval context.
… perhaps the “umbrals” … even my spell check never heard that one. … 🔦... “Umbral is derived from the Latin umbra, meaning "shadow". It is also the Spanish and Portuguese word for "threshold", and sometimes used as a surname ....” Sweet word. Thanks.
@@robkunkel8833 I heard another video on modern history that referred to it as a word for the guts of an animal which I think would be ground up and made into a pie
Not a native English speaker here; I understood it as coarse, not "course", so I gathered it to be leftovers of this and that, a sort of stew of different undistinguished bits (hence coarse); or, alternatively, entrails.
@@purpurina5663you are correct, I think it was meant to mean coarse I just goofed with a typo.
@@TalkingDeadGuy, I immediately thought of feet, tails, heads, spines and offal.
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I love this channel so much.
“A coarser meat for the poor.” In nice but not fancy French restaurants in the countryside, I remember having as a first course: turkey esophagus; veal testicles; chicken feet. They ate every part of the animal! I can imagine this was true everywhere; people were hungry for whatever they could get. But in the French countryside, of course they made it delicious.
How this channel doesn't have more than 1M subscribers yet? Not trying to be a drama queen here, but it just says a alot about the world we're living in.
True!
The Crowner John book series (set in ca 1290 Exeter) often has the main characters stopping at stalls to buy various “fast food”.
Getting someone else to bake your pies is also a good way to reduce the risk of burning your kitchen (or house) down.
Pie are one of things that you can cook once in bulk and keep for days.
The other day I was reading about the ancient Roman grain dole, wondering how that worked when tenement dwellers didn't have cooking facilities. Wiki said you would take your grain to a baker, for milling and baking.
@@mindstalk I think there was a parallel in medieval times where even if you grew the grain, you still had to have it milled by your lord, mostly so the lord could get income from you in the form of a part of the flour for their own use. And according to this video, if you didn’t have the facilities, a baker would have to bake the bread or whatever for you too. I wonder what the charge was for that service?
I used to have an older colleague in the 1970s whose father had been a baker in Sheffield, England. He told me that people would come with food to be cooked in his ovens, presumably after the bread had been baked, because few had their own oven.
That was so interesting! I don’t dabble much in medieval history, but when something pops up, it’s always fascinating to me that over centuries & millennia, human nature and creature comforts don’t change much! 😂. Thanks for the great video!
I recently spent a week on Mallorca, a (Spanish) Island in the Mediterranean Sea. On the most touristic beach, the Beach of Palma, locals walk among the tanning tourists and peddle drinks. They shout out "Sangria Mojito" "Sangria Mojito"! They have a certain rhythm and melody to the way the shout. It's not really pleasant but it's also not that much disturbing as I always got an earwig from that and as a joke repeated the shouting to the dismay of my friends.
I can imagine that the people shouting out for cookeries and bakeries sure came up with melodies and maybe rhymes even to make them sound actually appealing.
@@boatoflol A lot of old songs survive that seem to indicate they did! "Cockles and Mussels alive, alive-o" pops into my head, but I think there's a bab ballad that has an extended melody that's implied to be a vendor's melody. And I know I've seen sheet music someone wrote in a travel diary. (I did the same, in my sketchbook of a trip to Amish County I recorded the musical cadence of a farm auctioneer, I get the impulse!)
Not to mention musical theater. "Who will buy / my sweet red roses?" And supposedly, Verdi got one of his famous melodies from a cauliflower vendor - the story varies - but markets were full of annoying repetitive calls.
You know, if your company Rebellion made a Medieval Fantasy RPG video game, I'd play it. Especially if you, sir, made a cameo in the game somewhere!
YES! Me, too!!
I'm in!
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Agreed.
Also in!
Up through the 1950s small villages in Italy (and probably throughout Europe) had a central bake oven for making bread. From early in the morning until after dark, on a rotating schedule, Housewives would bring their week's worth of bread to be baked in the communal oven all week long. Often covered pots of soup or small roasts and vegetables were tucked into the corners to cook all day so Italian housewives could do more than just watch a pot.
Hey man how ya doing? I been watching for about a year now and just wanted to say thank you for the hard work you put into these videos. I never fail to learn something as well as be entertained! You’ve sparked an interest which has evolved into a fascination into lives in the past. It’s funny because I find myself questioning how I can find a way to connect ourselves with the people of the past. As I’ve come to think, we are much more alike to those that came before us than we realize. All that has really changed is the “routes” we use to achieve the same feelings. I appreciate the videos and am always excited for a new one!
13:16 Instance of Fake Advertising- lying about the contents of your product. It even happened in medieval times! Very interesting.
I absolutely love this guy's content. Super pleasant and well spoken
Excellent stuff Jason! Videos like this that offer "slice of life" topics are endlessly interesting. I wish you'd been around 40 years ago when my D&D group was in full swing, knowledge like this would have made our campaigns so much more realistic. I had an old herb book and drove the DM nuts with always asking about comfrey/woundwort and other healing herbs that my Ranger carried around with him. There have always been tales of shady cooks using dyes/plaster/sawdust and other nefarious means to "spruce up" their products and get higher prices for them.
"Cheap" seasonings are amazing, there is so much that can be done with just salt/pepper and a few herbs, some of the best meals I ever ate were made up from whatever we scrounged while deployed in the field in the Army. A snared rabbit, chives, wild garlic, dandelions and the salt/pepper packs from our MREs made an amazing Hasenpfeffer that I still remember fondly.
Thank you Jason for these videos. Your genuine passion and excitement is contagious and I find myself frequently smiling and laughing along with you whenever I watch them.
100%
You remind me of when i visited my moms relatives in Germany in the small towns when i was young. . . People still ran their businesses out of thier homes.
My family had a room set up as a grocery for odds and ends like spices and boxed goods ,a few vegtables but the slaughter house and buther was 2 doors down and the dairy for milk was across the way. The farmer still had wagon and horses. I loved the small town living. Now i hesrd that its grown so much the towns are connected. Im glad i got to experience things before grocery stores became a thing there. Also walking from one town to the other was lined with cherry trees. We would get a small branch of them and eat along the way. There were apples but we wouldn't go get those. People grew there own tree and made apple wine for the town.
Greetings from Czech republic, Jason! Hope you and all animals are all right.
all good thanks. winter is finally here too.
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Love this channel, always so interesting. Also, love the delivery. Nothing too flashy, lovely locations. I feel like im listening to a favorite teacher in high school. Keep up the great work sir!
In South Asia communal oven shops still exist, they use a sequential cooking system to differentiate who brought which loaf to be baked. Perhaps something similiar was used in Medieval Europe.
I loved this video much more than I thought I would!
As always, top-notch information presented beautifully. I still say, these videos should be shown in schools... :)
Side note: So, 'fast food' was readily available, and of possibly questionable quality? 'And there is no new thing under the Sun'...
Great film! Very much interesting information, I suppose RPG players and larpers will be very grateful to you for it. The city is mostly a lot of people who need to be fed, and not everyone can afford to have their own kitchen. I lived for many years in Krakow, a city where there was a medieval university - the city and university chronicles speak of particularly many places where ready-made food was sold. There was also a system of feeding poor students linked to charity - every poor student had a pot and a spoon and at lunchtime they could come to a burgher's house and count on the cook to give them something. This was a very popular kind of charity, for which the Krakovian bourgeoisie was probably forgiven many sins 😃
So fast food restaurants or kiosks and soup kitchens for the homeless have been around since ancient times after all.
That's really cool! Do you happen to remember what the system was called?
@@glittertechnic I don't think it had a special name, but I could be wrong. Perhaps there is some "pascere pauperes alumni" preserved in the chronicles ("to feed poor students" in Latin) 😃, but I have not come across any particular name.
I love your videos, but I think this is my favourite type. When you choose an everyday topic, and tell us about it. Like fast food or toothbrushes.