to be honest if it is a dream then it would be accurate. because when we do not have control over our dreams it just ends up being a jumbled mess. like one time i was dreaming that i was balancing on a flying red solo cup while avoiding a tree climbing seal. having a dream like that doesn't mean i believe that red solo cups can fly or seals can climb trees.
And then as a result making the theories true, which in turn makes One Piece take 1 or 2 extra years. Just like the warlords and supernovas increased the length and were not planned originally
Notice Chopper wasnt in the chapter cause Chopper would've been able to talk to the Lion/Cat and im sure the cat/lion is Loki the trickster God that can also transform
Oh sweet summer child. If you want to feel bad about your manga reading comprehension then listen to the drawk show. Drawks mom completely crushes anything you ever thought you know about reading onepiece. And so entertaining.
The credits actually go to a lot of youtubers and other op fans in x and reddit, who found all this within a day or 2 of scan release. ppl actually found the sword axe swap first and started looking for more inconsistencies....
A few more inconsistency or weird stuff: - When Nami falls on the cats, it makes a "ba-yoing" sound. As if she fall one a balloon or something. - Usopp says, that the cat can't hurt them, since it may be a illusion, after Nami brought up the Absinth. BUT Usopp was already in the mouth of the cat, so he should know, that this isn't true. - Nami holds Usopp up surprisedly easy above her head. Moving him from the ground over her head. - Sanji doesn't have any hearts in his eyes or speech bubble or an over the top reaction, when he talks to Nami after saving her. - That the sword on Luffy's back turns into a stick between panels, is actually underlined before and after with some lines, so that we pay attention.
It's actually impressive how many subtle errors were stuffed into this chapter, it's like one of those "the longer you look at it the worse it gets" images
The amount of pressure the editors, Oda, and anyone involved in a chapter production has must be huge. Think about it, they know the level of scrutiny their work is going to be put through. At least some of them must be seeing videos like this.
@@blokvader8283 the question is: has this theory been shown to be true before? can someone go back to an old review like this and say "no, these were all intentional in retrospect" ?
@@blackmage665they haven’t had a similar enough scenerio for it to make sense till now. In a dream state nothing remains constant and it’s usually off a bit. But proven things in the past like them correcting chapters that had mistakes have always happened like a day after release max. The fact they haven’t made any comments on the chapter proves this is probably intentional
@@OneShotUssop Yeah, they drank a hallucinogenic alcohol, and now they're separated from the group, and now a bunch of weird shit is happening... it just makes sense that this is intentional lmao
For anyone more interested in the tale of Utgard-Loki and how Thor scared the pants off him by failing to lift a cat and losing a fight to an old lady, I highly recommend the Miscellaneous Myths episode about the tale by Red from Overly Sarcastic Productions. I'd watched that episode and her deep dive on the more familiar Loki around the time 1126 was released, and it was what made me think that the Loki on Elbaf could be "Utgard Loki" (or perhaps "Utgar D. Loki").
I get that listening to the video is difficult, but I believe in you! The part where I said "it can be used as a plot point where necessary and forgotten when not". That's why I mentioned both things. Because Chopper's smell is consistent and can be used for both plot and gags.
14:22 Thor didn't beat giant loki's challenges because they were impossible however the fact Thor could put a dent in them horrified the giant. overly sarcastic productions does a great breakdown of the story if you wanna watch something about it
Nami: Oh thank god. That was terrifying. Mr Popo: I'll say! Nami: [screaming] Oda [jolting awake]: Man... I need to stop drawing so late... [TV turns on] Mr Popo: I'll say! Oda: [screaming]
This is one of the reason why reading One Piece weekly is much more enjoyable that binging it. The mystery will be solved within some chapters. But the anticipation we're having right now is the actual fun of One Piece. Many binge readers won't even notice these things and they'll probably just skim through these chapters, while we're at the edge of our seats now with all these different interpretations.
I recomend looking up OSP's videos on Utgard loki, and Loki. The first may have clues since it does fit the whole vibe of being uncertain of what is really happening, that whole adventure has tons of illusions, and the sort of fairy tale nonsense of interacting with things you shouldn't be able too (Utgard challenges thor and co and all the challengers are more than they appear) and as the Loki video points out, we don't actually know what Loki is the god off, and it may be more of a generic trickster title (maybe entangler?). Their norse mythology videos in general are probably a good watch since we likely will see many references to such in Elbaf.
I've gotten to the point that I read One Piece and I'll get to a point that I don't know wtf is going on, but I just move on. I mean, it will either be explained in the chapter or "man on the internet" will explain the reference or hidden meaning from 1000 chapters ago. Only One Piece Channel worth following in my opinion. I like Ohara and Hidden Island but you're more like some dude I know that is telling me what's happening but you've spent 1000x more time than me analyzing the story.
I don't think Zoro is off at all. We know Zoro has an awful sense of direction but Zoro doesn't know this. If anything, Zoro is always very confident in finding the way and also gets angry when the crew gets too over protective.
I can't remember which OP channel brought this up, but Zoro's Wado Ichimonji could be why his sense of direction is not just comically bad, but also still manages to get him exactly where he needs to go.
He's been supremely confident in his directional abilities in the past, but comically bad at it in was it Enies Lobby when he kept going up and down the wrong stairs and couldn't find the 1 staircase to reach everyone else right in front of everyone.
My thoughts on this are that Loki is basically playing with the straw hats like action figures. If Loki is still relatively a child by giant standards, maybe he has ahold of the straw hats and is playing with them. He constantly switches out their gear and changes the story, gets moves wrong, etc., because he's a child and might not know better. And it's all being hidden by Loki having some trickster devil fruit.
Something is definitely not quite right. And it's gonna be fun to see which way the story goes and I'm actually quite certain that most things we try to predict are going to be wrong - which is half the fun. On another note: for all those interested in the tale of Utgard-Loki. There is a great summary by Overly Sarcastic Productions (OSP) here on RUclips, which I highly recommend.
Oda told me Chopper has a cold. Oda told me Chopper is overwhelmed by smells, and has learned to tune them out for his own sanity. Oda told me that deserts enhanced his nose. Oda told me water diminishes his sense of smell. Oda told me Chopper had a traumatic injury that makes his nose not work or only will some of the time. Oda told me Chopper has long term side effects from rumble balls. My lying eyes told me that Chopper noticed their different smells but decided two years changes a lot. Or maybe Oda just forgot. All I’m saying is that there are many possible explanations, and hopefully we find out one day!
I think the most important point is that they mentioned more than one time about hallucinations, if it wasn't for that I wouldn't think so strongly that all the errors are on purpose
If the Straw Hats did Utgardaloki's challenges, I could see Luffy doing the eating contest, Zoro drinking from the barrel, Usopp doing racing, Nami lifting the cat, and Sanji doing the wrestling match.
What if Oda was indeed absent during the drawing production of the chapter, and just left it to his assistants. Then, when he came back, he saw all the glaring mistakes and since its too late to change it, he just told his editor to give him a break week to fix and address the inconsistencies on the next chapter 😂
there is also another mistake i saw with namis clothing, where the belt thing around her leg is mysteriously missing when she trips on the lego bump, then reappears on her leg
Hi man on the internet, I've spotted quite a big mistake in your video, internet man. At 12:47 you're impying that Chopper wasn't able to smell that Ussop and Sogeking are the same person. While in actuallity, Sogeking is a sniper from Sniper Island. He is the man who takes 100 shots and has 100 hits! Lock on bro! What the are you going on about? Massive fan besides this but what a major letdown, I really thought you were an internet man that did his research before spreading his misinformation across the internet. Outrageous
The circular buckle on Nami’s top is being compared to her belt buckle on her skirt for some reason, that buckle does disappear for a panel but the first part is straight up a different piece of clothing
That was my thought as well. She could be holding a log that her mind makes her thing she's holding Usopp, or even holding nothing could yield that result
It is worth mentioning the thing that contradicts the theory in that there are other non crew bystanders in the chapter. They can’t be hallucinations of the crew since they aren’t even there. I don’t think this disproves the theory but it must be a hint at some other element of the truth. Either “Loki” has other prisoners or thrrr are people outside the illusion, but either way it hints at some real physical things are happening and it is not just all inside someone’s head
Yay! Someone finally aknowledge my Utgard-Loki theory! I've been shouting it for years. There are too many parallels with Utgard, especially with the castle being like Utgard (Outyard) castle.
My big issue with the hallucination theory is the cutaway to the locals talking about the ear god. Not sure why an imaginary or dreamlike environment would cut away like that to people Nami doesn’t know about
Maybe someone is pulling this stuff intentionally Wich loki, or other character would know the place like this Its not so dream theory, its hallucination wich probably caused by a devil fruit
I’d love to see luffy confuse Odin and oden if Odin and Thor are on elbaf. Speaking of which, luffy should theoretically know Thor if he has an attack named after him
Internet pirate dude in a room! Could you go back and review Water Seven again? Some of the lore about the island and Aqua Laguna seem like they may have hinted at what Vegapunk revealed in his broadcast!! If I had the volume I’d check it myself, but I’ll have to run to the library later instead.
When Luffy used Gear 5 against Lucci on egghead Nami never once called it a gear just calling it “the form he used to kick kaidos ass” so I don’t think luffy has ever mentioned the Name of gear 5 to them yet
Electric boogaloo 😂😂 well it can't be hallucination if we can see what's happening in other places, such as the giants in elbaf talking about the chaos happening, just a thought
It’s most definitely on purpose. I can see a belt buckle be mistaken or another small detail like that but a balcony that is first rounded, then straight, or a sword being there one moment and missing completely the other is a bit harder to swallow. One Piece’s art style is already very chaotic to say the least and still manages to be consistent, so one chapter being full of mistakes, nah, I don’t buy it? I do have a question if there are any Japanese translators here: How can 2 versions of a translation be so different that they completely contradict each other or say something entirely different? ‘I’ll pass on this one’ is the complete opposite of ‘I wonder how this one will taste’. I’ve seen stuff like this before where in Water Seven Luffy tells Kaku he sounds much older than he looks (I think that was the French version) but in another he asks him if his nose is made of wood (English, I might mix them up though, this might have been the French one and the other is the English one, can’t remember). Either way, both translations said something completely different. I know that Japanese is a fairly ‘poetic’ language that leaves room for interpretation but in any case every translation should be saying more or less the same thing, minus some nuance here and there. But completely different, or even contradicting translations? That makes no sense to me, so if anyone can help me explain it would be much appreciated!
Japan has some words that simply cannot be translated accurately and Japanese to English or any language isn't going to be 1:1 it heavily depends on the translators interpretation which you need the full context to kinda get it and Japanese is just one of those languages where translations can vary but if the Japanese community agrees the official is more accurate best to go with it
@@MyNamesHunter75 yeah, but does that explain why some translations just flat out contradict each other? I get interpretations can vary but the overall meaning should still be the same, shouldn’t it? Or at least in line with each other?
I think the utagard Loki theory is one of the best so far, but I don’t think oda would use a separate or different Loki or have 2 of them, I think he would just kind of smash them both together, utagard lokis tricks are some of the most benign and over all harmless which is why he probably used a version of them instead, regular lokis tricks are usually far more mean spirited or usually end in someone being seriously hurt or out right dying
Utagard Loki and regular Loki are the same Loki though mate, Liam's confused the sagas lol Loki; God of Mischief, father of Hela, Fenrir, and Sliepnir, is the son of Laufe King of the Ice Giants, and Angraboda; He is a Jotuun
StojDoes did the better version of my theory that it's fully a hallucination. Since the call back to the big 3 using their own mega attacks on the giant lion just like they did against the giant worm as the only ones that saw that in alabasta were Nami, Chopper, and Vivi. Where Vivi and Chopper are not in legoland whereas Nami is. Usopp is too however he just got knocked out by same exact cat-lion-thingy. Also the constant characters having sword in one panel, and no sword in another panel, and this repeats. Also Sanji preps his Diable Jambe with his right foot and kicks with his left foot. Same way Luffy calls out Gear 4 but obviously uses Gear 3. Also Zoro clearly has some sort of thing going on with him where he picked up on something bizarre going on.
"conjuring fake straw hats wouldn't work on chopper because of his sense of smell" meanwhile chopper being fooled by Demaro Black's crew on Sabaody: yeah I shouldn't have commented before watching the rest of the video 😗
I do remember the Utgard Loki Story, and I find it interesting that among the various challenges, there's a drinking challenge, an eating challenge, and a running challenge. Each challenge perfectly fitting a member of the monster trio.
If I were to guess differing translations. Lots of languages can have multiple translations for similar aspects and from what I believe Japanese is a very “loaded” language which can lead to multiple translations
Japanese is a very complex language, with 2 different written forms, and a lot of subtleties. You're also dealing with an author who is prolific in his word play. I mean just look at Luffys attachment to 56 aka Go 5 Mu 6 for the gomu gomu nomi.
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Zoro's swords are also being held with the blades backwards before his twister attack, but point forward after, and the one in his mouth also flips from right to left
I don't think it's strange that she asked for Luffy, Sanji and Zoro since they are litteraly the monster trio and Usopp is like her coward partner. He is the one that she is usually with when she is in trouble.
I remember an old cartoon, i think it was called Valhalla, i saw it on Tape when i was a little Me. Where a small Child called Loki had to attend different series of challanges.. i cant recall much from what i saw, i can only remember a huge, or at least suuper heavey cat, a infinte horn he had to drink from.. and Crows.. it was kind of disturbing back then!
because it was part of the cliffhanger of the previous chapter and was never explicitly clarified in this one. zeus is the logical answer, but it's still open-ended and we don't know for sure and it's reasonable to expect a more surprising character considering, again, it was part of that cliffhanger.
To be fair, zoro is ALWAYS talking about finding something/someone. It's just that someone always stops him before he takes off and gets lost. So I don't think zoro's dialogue is strange
That transition was like a game loading screen when you move to the next level low-key. Maybe there's a game devil fruit at work? EDIT: I swear I paused and typed this before you said it LoL. I pressed play and you immediately said what I just typed 💀
Randomly but... The SAME thing- " coincidence" has been happening to me the last how many months,to a weird extend... Not ONLY with OP videos... It s weird.
If Nami is does that me these aren't the crew's official Elbaf outfits, other wise we have Nami waking up and she be like. "I had the weirdest dream, Zoro was wearing the dumbest outfit" She looks at Zoro and he's wearing the same outfit as in her dream. "Shit!".
I appreciate that this man uses "product" in his hair. Every time I go to the barber they try to sell me on hair gel, but I resist. It is good to see practical application of product in the real world.
Funfact: Utgard Loki literally means "Loki from the outside" which is most likely in reference to Utgard Loki pulling epic pranks on Thor, Thor's childslaves and Loki himself^^
@@dragonmangames2523 we're actually not really sure where Lokis name originates. One possibility is for his name to mean "the locked one" because Loki gets tied to a rock in a cave and "locked away" or because of his sewn shut lips(after his prank on thors wife backfired and he had to get gifts to the gods). Another theory is that Loki used to be a title or epithath. Some believe his name to come from "logi" and either showing his affiliation for flames or lies. Personally think the lock makes the most sense but i wont judge you for wanting loki to literally be called the liar or have the powers of a fire deity Asgard means garden of the Aesir. Utgard basically means outland (garden of the outside) because its outside of Midgard. Truly genius^^
@@kiritugeorge4684 Luffy tried eating Crocodile, he wouldn't stop at mere cats. Edit: Now that I think about it, that mf tried eating Rob Lucci, so he ALREADY tried to eat a cat!!
@@kiritugeorge4684 Leopards ARE cats per definition, they all belong to the Felidae family (aka cat family). Lucci is probably in the cat-closet because he doesn't want to be associated with a cute kitten. Stop being a midwit online please, this is no big reach.
The voice that woke Nami up was Zeus. She's not asleep. Her knees were scuffed from tripping/falling, and Usopp was injured. Like IRL, not like the Japanese concept of a dream. In dreams, you don't get hurt or die. Felt like a very 'cinematic' telling of this tale. Otherwise this is a "nothing happened, nothing-burger" chapter. 😐 Stephen Paul's translation is scuffed. The Japanese is closer to : 'Luffy is wondering if it's going to be good.' Viz translation is closer to 'Luffy would never eat a cat.' He grew up hunting, killing, and eating big cats, when Dadan was starving him in the foster-home. Remember Big Mom freaking out on the 12-day starvation/fast?😰 The Beehive, bees, and honey are useful ingredients; at least according to the original text (which is the only one you should consider).👌 Right/left panel mirrors are normal, common in One Piece, for aesthetic reasons.👭👩❤💋👨 Oda doesn't draw un-detailed small panels in the background!!!!! It must be an evil twin editor or QC worker letting it by!!!!! Oda is PERFECT!!!!! ➿🏴☠ P.S. Nami was sexier the way Oda drew her, the Nami-belt he drew, not the 'correct' way. Are you trying to get his editors fired? 😀 Cheers! - Joe D.
The Utgarda-Loki story acutally has even more things in common than you mention. In the version I know (idk if its the only or best one, probably not), Thor is challenged to a drinking contest where he looses because his mug is actually the sea, and made to look like a mug, Loki is challenged to an eating contest (very fitting for Luffy) where he looses because his rival is actually fire, and made to look like a giant, they are tasked with lifting a giant cat and they fail because the cat is actually Jormungandr, and they have to fight an old lady and loose because she's actually Death. So not only do all of these fit very nicely with One Piece, eating for Luffy, drinking for Zoro and fighting, but in the myth they fail the trials because Utgarda is using illusions to make unbeatable things look like ordinary things, so it also ties nicely with the hallucination speculation.
I just realized. Watching this, and reading the chapter again, Usopp is very brave to face up againt the giant cat when Nami mentions it might be a hallucination... Like, by usopp standards that one act is already enough to convince me it might not be usopp...
Bro to say that chopper wouldn’t fall for fake crew members because of his nose is the most ignorant thing you could say 😂 chopper literally followed the fake crew around for chapters on fish man island…
Maybe but just 'maybe' Nami sick again and is dreaming all of it? Cause Oda did it when the original crew sailed away from Little Garden to Drum Island. Just a thought
8:06 I bet the mistake in chapter 1126 was made intentionally so they could differentiate between the everything else being intentional, and the tweet was planned ahead of time.
the one thing that makes me entertain this idea... is that Luffy is not wearing the straw hat... and I mean anywhere, it's not under his helmet and is not hanging on his back... this never happened before, in any other arc, when Luffy was wearing somehting on his head the straw hat was either hanging on his back like in the Colisseum of Dressrossa, or under his new hat like in whole cake island.
Thanks for making this video! I just started reading the manga two months ago after catching up on the anime, and I never would’ve noticed these details without your breakdown.
IMU Devil fruit may be upgrade version of sugar fruit because of sugar fruit can make every one to forget who she turns into toy soldiers . And whole void century has been erased from history
Talking about sanji hitting with the wrong leg reminds me of something I don’t see a lot of ppl bring up about the anime. When luffy transforms into g5 against lucci he goes in to punch with the right hand as we see in the reflection, but then in the scene to show both of them luffy hits with his left hand
if Kuma is still around this arc, will there be more information on the Buccaneers? perhaps Revealing other Buccaneers too? I put my bets on Blackbeard being a Buccaneer himself perhaps that's why he can eat multiple fruits hmmmm 👀
Sanji says "epaule" (shoulder) when attacking, but hits the lion right on the head (and crown), which would be more like his "concasse" attack.
confirmed, nami doesn't understand mechanics nor french. So much for the 3rd smartest in the east blue I guess
but its the same in the original alabasta panel
Sanji used epaule attack before hitting the head of the lizard in Alabasta too@@xuklysc
its literally the same in the original
to be honest if it is a dream then it would be accurate. because when we do not have control over our dreams it just ends up being a jumbled mess. like one time i was dreaming that i was balancing on a flying red solo cup while avoiding a tree climbing seal. having a dream like that doesn't mean i believe that red solo cups can fly or seals can climb trees.
To be fair, I don't think Zoro just wanting to find something is a red flag. If he ACTUALLY manages to find it though, THAT'S a cause for concern.
Yellow flag
@@IndustrisasiIndonesia Red flag
Magenta flag
Biege flag
Yeah zoro trying to find the rest of the crew is just his basic vice captain stuff
It would be so funny if this was just an honest mistake by oda and his team and they're just looking at these theories like: 👁️👄👁️
And then as a result making the theories true, which in turn makes One Piece take 1 or 2 extra years. Just like the warlords and supernovas increased the length and were not planned originally
thats like 90 percent what the case is. Like, this is obviously not the first time mistakes were made
Lmaooo in true Kinemon fashion
@@edwarddaly2263 there have been mistakes before but very few , and especially not in the same chapter
@@edwarddaly2263 i don’t recall a chapter ever having this many mistakes
Notice Chopper wasnt in the chapter cause Chopper would've been able to talk to the Lion/Cat and im sure the cat/lion is Loki the trickster God that can also transform
Chopper doesn’t drink so he wouldn’t be hallucinating
@@mylespando5192 luffy also said he doesn't like to drink but still does, almost forgot to mention Chopper pops pills so i doubt a drink is to much
@@leonidas231he said that pre timeskip maybe Silver Raleigh taught him a few things lol
Also Chopper could have reversed the hallucination, he's a doctor guys. .
GrandLineReview always makes me question if I’m reading the manga right🤣 always unpacking such obvious but hidden things in the manga
Same here, I never notice all that stuff.
Oh sweet summer child. If you want to feel bad about your manga reading comprehension then listen to the drawk show. Drawks mom completely crushes anything you ever thought you know about reading onepiece. And so entertaining.
@@TheLoser95 I'm a salty winter teen thank you very much.
@@TheLoser95 thank you for putting me on i appreciate it ill give him a listen
The credits actually go to a lot of youtubers and other op fans in x and reddit, who found all this within a day or 2 of scan release. ppl actually found the sword axe swap first and started looking for more inconsistencies....
A few more inconsistency or weird stuff:
- When Nami falls on the cats, it makes a "ba-yoing" sound. As if she fall one a balloon or something.
- Usopp says, that the cat can't hurt them, since it may be a illusion, after Nami brought up the Absinth. BUT Usopp was already in the mouth of the cat, so he should know, that this isn't true.
- Nami holds Usopp up surprisedly easy above her head. Moving him from the ground over her head.
- Sanji doesn't have any hearts in his eyes or speech bubble or an over the top reaction, when he talks to Nami after saving her.
- That the sword on Luffy's back turns into a stick between panels, is actually underlined before and after with some lines, so that we pay attention.
It's actually impressive how many subtle errors were stuffed into this chapter, it's like one of those "the longer you look at it the worse it gets" images
Those are funny to me.
Wow this comment aged poorly.
GrandLineReview out here playing spot the difference with the panels
7:27 It's been mentioned before that Only Oda is allowed to draw the characters, assistants only draw backgrounds and fill any dark areas.
But is that still true? I think that statement was from awhile ago, things may be different at this point. The pressure is higher than ever.
@@Naomasa11great point
The amount of pressure the editors, Oda, and anyone involved in a chapter production has must be huge. Think about it, they know the level of scrutiny their work is going to be put through. At least some of them must be seeing videos like this.
Yeah but all of these errors are intentional, they wouldn't let THIS many errors fly under the radar, why do people still think it's an accident?
@@blokvader8283 the question is: has this theory been shown to be true before? can someone go back to an old review like this and say "no, these were all intentional in retrospect" ?
@@blackmage665they haven’t had a similar enough scenerio for it to make sense till now. In a dream state nothing remains constant and it’s usually off a bit. But proven things in the past like them correcting chapters that had mistakes have always happened like a day after release max. The fact they haven’t made any comments on the chapter proves this is probably intentional
@@blokvader8283 I agree. My comment was more of a realization than anything.
@@OneShotUssop Yeah, they drank a hallucinogenic alcohol, and now they're separated from the group, and now a bunch of weird shit is happening... it just makes sense that this is intentional lmao
11:44 me remembering chopper following the fake straw hat 😂
I was about to comment that 😂
Same
it had to be a gag cause that was just diabolical for his character 😂😂
Yeah, that's the worst "man on the internet" argument I ever seen.
I know it's hard watching the video, but he says that right afterwards tho
For anyone more interested in the tale of Utgard-Loki and how Thor scared the pants off him by failing to lift a cat and losing a fight to an old lady, I highly recommend the Miscellaneous Myths episode about the tale by Red from Overly Sarcastic Productions. I'd watched that episode and her deep dive on the more familiar Loki around the time 1126 was released, and it was what made me think that the Loki on Elbaf could be "Utgard Loki" (or perhaps "Utgar D. Loki").
Don't forget failing to finish a single drinking horn.
"Absinthe is one hell of a drug" - Rick James
Loki is master of tricks and illushion
Maybe this island is covered even more in them then we ever realised
11:50 that is not true Chopper was the only straw hat to be tricked by the fake straw hats.
That’s why you should watch the rest of the video before commenting he stated that
@@sleeplesinbrooklyn3462 Iknow but why make the first statement if you are immediately going to contradict yourself
@@mrsunshine8314 fair enough no argument on that
I get that listening to the video is difficult, but I believe in you! The part where I said "it can be used as a plot point where necessary and forgotten when not". That's why I mentioned both things. Because Chopper's smell is consistent and can be used for both plot and gags.
@@GrandLineReview thanks for believing in me. Man on the internet
14:22 Thor didn't beat giant loki's challenges because they were impossible however the fact Thor could put a dent in them horrified the giant. overly sarcastic productions does a great breakdown of the story if you wanna watch something about it
The Absinthe doesn’t have any effect on Zoro because of his high alcohol tolerance 😂
nami is a heavy drinker aswell
Namis also a heavier drinker than him (self claimed)
Nah, zoro possesses the liver of steel, did y'all forget whisky peak so soon 😂
Drunk Zoro is better with directions? what a twist
Hi man on the internet how is your day going?
Skibidi
That's a different channel
@@warmblanket3394Dude In A Room?
😂😂
Hi, my day is going good what about yours ?
Chopper literally couldn’t tell difference with fake straw hats
thats what im sayinggg i swear at the return to sabaody archipelgo he couldnt tell the difference
Nami: Oh thank god. That was terrifying.
Mr Popo: I'll say!
Nami: [screaming]
Oda [jolting awake]: Man... I need to stop drawing so late...
[TV turns on]
Mr Popo: I'll say!
Oda: [screaming]
Team Four Star lives on!😂
Who tf is mr popo
@@pep4338character from og dragon ball, he was the assistant of the ex-earth guardian
This is one of the reason why reading One Piece weekly is much more enjoyable that binging it.
The mystery will be solved within some chapters. But the anticipation we're having right now is the actual fun of One Piece. Many binge readers won't even notice these things and they'll probably just skim through these chapters, while we're at the edge of our seats now with all these different interpretations.
Gonna be a real dick kick moment if the following chapters reveal no trickery and was in fact just a whole lot of art screw ups
Oda waking up like, “ aw shyt.. oh they think I did it on purpose? Uh um I DID!!! :))”
Literally Kinemon lmao
This does happen when I fall asleep
I recomend looking up OSP's videos on Utgard loki, and Loki. The first may have clues since it does fit the whole vibe of being uncertain of what is really happening, that whole adventure has tons of illusions, and the sort of fairy tale nonsense of interacting with things you shouldn't be able too (Utgard challenges thor and co and all the challengers are more than they appear) and as the Loki video points out, we don't actually know what Loki is the god off, and it may be more of a generic trickster title (maybe entangler?).
Their norse mythology videos in general are probably a good watch since we likely will see many references to such in Elbaf.
I've gotten to the point that I read One Piece and I'll get to a point that I don't know wtf is going on, but I just move on. I mean, it will either be explained in the chapter or "man on the internet" will explain the reference or hidden meaning from 1000 chapters ago. Only One Piece Channel worth following in my opinion. I like Ohara and Hidden Island but you're more like some dude I know that is telling me what's happening but you've spent 1000x more time than me analyzing the story.
I don't think Zoro is off at all. We know Zoro has an awful sense of direction but Zoro doesn't know this. If anything, Zoro is always very confident in finding the way and also gets angry when the crew gets too over protective.
I can't remember which OP channel brought this up, but Zoro's Wado Ichimonji could be why his sense of direction is not just comically bad, but also still manages to get him exactly where he needs to go.
@@dragonmangames2523His katanas guide him ❤️
He's been supremely confident in his directional abilities in the past, but comically bad at it in was it Enies Lobby when he kept going up and down the wrong stairs and couldn't find the 1 staircase to reach everyone else right in front of everyone.
It's likely this is a distorted play reality based on someone who heard the stories of the Straw Hats from someone who is a big fan of them.
My thoughts on this are that Loki is basically playing with the straw hats like action figures. If Loki is still relatively a child by giant standards, maybe he has ahold of the straw hats and is playing with them. He constantly switches out their gear and changes the story, gets moves wrong, etc., because he's a child and might not know better. And it's all being hidden by Loki having some trickster devil fruit.
Something is definitely not quite right. And it's gonna be fun to see which way the story goes and I'm actually quite certain that most things we try to predict are going to be wrong - which is half the fun.
On another note: for all those interested in the tale of Utgard-Loki. There is a great summary by Overly Sarcastic Productions (OSP) here on RUclips, which I highly recommend.
12:57 choppers smelling skills are like techniques in dbz where people just forget they have them
Oda told me Chopper has a cold.
Oda told me Chopper is overwhelmed by smells, and has learned to tune them out for his own sanity.
Oda told me that deserts enhanced his nose.
Oda told me water diminishes his sense of smell.
Oda told me Chopper had a traumatic injury that makes his nose not work or only will some of the time.
Oda told me Chopper has long term side effects from rumble balls.
My lying eyes told me that Chopper noticed their different smells but decided two years changes a lot.
Or maybe Oda just forgot.
All I’m saying is that there are many possible explanations, and hopefully we find out one day!
yo you remember at the beginning of Egghead Island Arc and that bingo sheet you made for it 2 years ago? i think you should check that out again.
I think he did just like 2 or 3 videos ago
Yeah he mentioned the whole Frankie getting like 0 for all predictions even tho cyborg in science land makes perfect sense lmao
Bingo? Dude I think you mean Bing.
@@jonathanjoestar1938is that a joke
@@ryanpiccolotti not at all, I hope he gets a bing before the year is out.
I think the most important point is that they mentioned more than one time about hallucinations, if it wasn't for that I wouldn't think so strongly that all the errors are on purpose
Us being tricked around loki? Noooooo never
it would be crazy if Loki isn't fucking with the Strawhats, he's fucking with us.
The twist would go so crazy.
I really like the idea that Luffy, Zoro, Usopp, and Sanji in this chapter are how Nami perceives them.
"Haluccinatrarily"
Liam 2024 😂
1:12 wasn’t it Zeus that was calling out to her ???
I was gonna say the same thing
Yeah that’s what I got out of the panel. It was Zeus
Yeah I thought so too
maybe thats a red herring oda playing us because we just assume that very thing?
It wasn’t Zeus because once she summoned he said where are we
If the Straw Hats did Utgardaloki's challenges, I could see Luffy doing the eating contest, Zoro drinking from the barrel, Usopp doing racing, Nami lifting the cat, and Sanji doing the wrestling match.
What if Oda was indeed absent during the drawing production of the chapter, and just left it to his assistants. Then, when he came back, he saw all the glaring mistakes and since its too late to change it, he just told his editor to give him a break week to fix and address the inconsistencies on the next chapter 😂
there is also another mistake i saw with namis clothing, where the belt thing around her leg is mysteriously missing when she trips on the lego bump, then reappears on her leg
Hi man on the internet, I've spotted quite a big mistake in your video, internet man. At 12:47 you're impying that Chopper wasn't able to smell that Ussop and Sogeking are the same person. While in actuallity, Sogeking is a sniper from Sniper Island. He is the man who takes 100 shots and has 100 hits! Lock on bro! What the are you going on about? Massive fan besides this but what a major letdown, I really thought you were an internet man that did his research before spreading his misinformation across the internet. Outrageous
Exactly, as a one piece fan I’m disappointed
The circular buckle on Nami’s top is being compared to her belt buckle on her skirt for some reason, that buckle does disappear for a panel but the first part is straight up a different piece of clothing
Hallucinations aren’t holograms. Nami could believe she’s holding Usopp in front of her.
That was my thought as well. She could be holding a log that her mind makes her thing she's holding Usopp, or even holding nothing could yield that result
It is worth mentioning the thing that contradicts the theory in that there are other non crew bystanders in the chapter. They can’t be hallucinations of the crew since they aren’t even there. I don’t think this disproves the theory but it must be a hint at some other element of the truth. Either “Loki” has other prisoners or thrrr are people outside the illusion, but either way it hints at some real physical things are happening and it is not just all inside someone’s head
I would find it fucking hilarious if Oda just threw these errors in just for shits and gigs. None of these mean anything its just errors
Yay! Someone finally aknowledge my Utgard-Loki theory! I've been shouting it for years. There are too many parallels with Utgard, especially with the castle being like Utgard (Outyard) castle.
My big issue with the hallucination theory is the cutaway to the locals talking about the ear god.
Not sure why an imaginary or dreamlike environment would cut away like that to people Nami doesn’t know about
The ear god may be a refrence to enel(just a guess)
I could be lokis dream world or something and he keeps people and elbaf animals in there
Perhaps the crew killed the ear god, which is implied to be a rabbit, while in a drug induced hallucination.
Maybe someone is pulling this stuff intentionally
Wich loki, or other character would know the place like this
Its not so dream theory, its hallucination wich probably caused by a devil fruit
They’re actually there but Nami is hallucinating what she’s seeing in the immediate present
Its crazy that people haven't figured out loki is behind it ,
He's probably fallen in love with nami and is creating a illusion.
Big brains 😂
I’d love to see luffy confuse Odin and oden if Odin and Thor are on elbaf. Speaking of which, luffy should theoretically know Thor if he has an attack named after him
Internet pirate dude in a room! Could you go back and review Water Seven again? Some of the lore about the island and Aqua Laguna seem like they may have hinted at what Vegapunk revealed in his broadcast!! If I had the volume I’d check it myself, but I’ll have to run to the library later instead.
When Luffy used Gear 5 against Lucci on egghead Nami never once called it a gear just calling it “the form he used to kick kaidos ass” so I don’t think luffy has ever mentioned the Name of gear 5 to them yet
Electric boogaloo 😂😂 well it can't be hallucination if we can see what's happening in other places, such as the giants in elbaf talking about the chaos happening, just a thought
It’s most definitely on purpose. I can see a belt buckle be mistaken or another small detail like that but a balcony that is first rounded, then straight, or a sword being there one moment and missing completely the other is a bit harder to swallow. One Piece’s art style is already very chaotic to say the least and still manages to be consistent, so one chapter being full of mistakes, nah, I don’t buy it?
I do have a question if there are any Japanese translators here:
How can 2 versions of a translation be so different that they completely contradict each other or say something entirely different? ‘I’ll pass on this one’ is the complete opposite of ‘I wonder how this one will taste’. I’ve seen stuff like this before where in Water Seven Luffy tells Kaku he sounds much older than he looks (I think that was the French version) but in another he asks him if his nose is made of wood (English, I might mix them up though, this might have been the French one and the other is the English one, can’t remember). Either way, both translations said something completely different. I know that Japanese is a fairly ‘poetic’ language that leaves room for interpretation but in any case every translation should be saying more or less the same thing, minus some nuance here and there. But completely different, or even contradicting translations? That makes no sense to me, so if anyone can help me explain it would be much appreciated!
Japan has some words that simply cannot be translated accurately and Japanese to English or any language isn't going to be 1:1 it heavily depends on the translators interpretation which you need the full context to kinda get it and Japanese is just one of those languages where translations can vary but if the Japanese community agrees the official is more accurate best to go with it
@@MyNamesHunter75 yeah, but does that explain why some translations just flat out contradict each other? I get interpretations can vary but the overall meaning should still be the same, shouldn’t it? Or at least in line with each other?
If all these mistakes turns out to be actual mistakes it would make these two weeks the biggest glazing event to ever happen in history
I think the utagard Loki theory is one of the best so far, but I don’t think oda would use a separate or different Loki or have 2 of them, I think he would just kind of smash them both together, utagard lokis tricks are some of the most benign and over all harmless which is why he probably used a version of them instead, regular lokis tricks are usually far more mean spirited or usually end in someone being seriously hurt or out right dying
Utagard Loki and regular Loki are the same Loki though mate, Liam's confused the sagas lol
Loki; God of Mischief, father of Hela, Fenrir, and Sliepnir, is the son of Laufe King of the Ice Giants, and Angraboda; He is a Jotuun
StojDoes did the better version of my theory that it's fully a hallucination. Since the call back to the big 3 using their own mega attacks on the giant lion just like they did against the giant worm as the only ones that saw that in alabasta were Nami, Chopper, and Vivi. Where Vivi and Chopper are not in legoland whereas Nami is. Usopp is too however he just got knocked out by same exact cat-lion-thingy.
Also the constant characters having sword in one panel, and no sword in another panel, and this repeats. Also Sanji preps his Diable Jambe with his right foot and kicks with his left foot. Same way Luffy calls out Gear 4 but obviously uses Gear 3. Also Zoro clearly has some sort of thing going on with him where he picked up on something bizarre going on.
"conjuring fake straw hats wouldn't work on chopper because of his sense of smell"
meanwhile chopper being fooled by Demaro Black's crew on Sabaody:
yeah I shouldn't have commented before watching the rest of the video 😗
It could be that chopper was just so excited that he wanted to believe they were his friends
I do remember the Utgard Loki Story, and I find it interesting that among the various challenges, there's a drinking challenge, an eating challenge, and a running challenge. Each challenge perfectly fitting a member of the monster trio.
How could the scans and official translation differ so differently?
If I were to guess differing translations. Lots of languages can have multiple translations for similar aspects and from what I believe Japanese is a very “loaded” language which can lead to multiple translations
Japanese is a very complex language, with 2 different written forms, and a lot of subtleties.
You're also dealing with an author who is prolific in his word play. I mean just look at Luffys attachment to 56 aka Go 5 Mu 6 for the gomu gomu nomi.
Zoro's swords are also being held with the blades backwards before his twister attack, but point forward after, and the one in his mouth also flips from right to left
0:26 as a low-ranking member of The Fictional Pirate Appreciator Council, I will review this evidence accordingly.. But yeah.. some very good points..
I don't think it's strange that she asked for Luffy, Sanji and Zoro since they are litteraly the monster trio and Usopp is like her coward partner. He is the one that she is usually with when she is in trouble.
I think Zeus is the one who wake up the nami
I too think it was Zeus who wake up the Nami
I remember an old cartoon, i think it was called Valhalla, i saw it on Tape when i was a little Me. Where a small Child called Loki had to attend different series of challanges.. i cant recall much from what i saw, i can only remember a huge, or at least suuper heavey cat, a infinte horn he had to drink from.. and Crows.. it was kind of disturbing back then!
Wasn't it Zeus that woke up Nami....I mean that's the only thing that makes sense. Idk why everybody is sooooo cornfused about it lol😂😂😂 1:48
because it was part of the cliffhanger of the previous chapter and was never explicitly clarified in this one. zeus is the logical answer, but it's still open-ended and we don't know for sure and it's reasonable to expect a more surprising character considering, again, it was part of that cliffhanger.
@TheHaloDudes and then on the next chapter we see Nami and Zeus talking.
I love these theories about there errors being weird, but it's going to be funny if they all end up getting fixed for the volume release.
Plot twist: Shueisha it's just now using Generative AI
*it was the AI hallucinating all along*
To be fair, zoro is ALWAYS talking about finding something/someone. It's just that someone always stops him before he takes off and gets lost.
So I don't think zoro's dialogue is strange
the wake up voice is chopper whos trynna wake them up from the DMT trip
Guys wake your high 😭 probably Chopper
plot plot twist, oda and his assistants storyboarded this on absinthe
Earlyyyy for the first time
"...Luffy just screams a number then just does something wacky..."
That's One Piece 👒😁👍
Nami hasnt seen Ifrit Jambe has she?
No..... she wasn't there in wano and egghead when he used it
I was genuinely worried when i noticed the mistakes. But you're absolutely right, there's too many for it to not be intentional.
That transition was like a game loading screen when you move to the next level low-key. Maybe there's a game devil fruit at work?
EDIT: I swear I paused and typed this before you said it LoL. I pressed play and you immediately said what I just typed 💀
Randomly but... The SAME thing- " coincidence" has been happening to me the last how many months,to a weird extend... Not ONLY with OP videos... It s weird.
I’m so happy you actually studied into Utgard. Great job.
If Nami is does that me these aren't the crew's official Elbaf outfits, other wise we have Nami waking up and she be like. "I had the weirdest dream, Zoro was wearing the dumbest outfit" She looks at Zoro and he's wearing the same outfit as in her dream. "Shit!".
I appreciate that this man uses "product" in his hair. Every time I go to the barber they try to sell me on hair gel, but I resist. It is good to see practical application of product in the real world.
Funfact: Utgard Loki literally means "Loki from the outside" which is most likely in reference to Utgard Loki pulling epic pranks on Thor, Thor's childslaves and Loki himself^^
Meanwhile,,Asgard has "Loki At Home"
@@dragonmangames2523 we're actually not really sure where Lokis name originates. One possibility is for his name to mean "the locked one" because Loki gets tied to a rock in a cave and "locked away" or because of his sewn shut lips(after his prank on thors wife backfired and he had to get gifts to the gods). Another theory is that Loki used to be a title or epithath. Some believe his name to come from "logi" and either showing his affiliation for flames or lies. Personally think the lock makes the most sense but i wont judge you for wanting loki to literally be called the liar or have the powers of a fire deity
Asgard means garden of the Aesir. Utgard basically means outland (garden of the outside) because its outside of Midgard. Truly genius^^
@@onkelreyleigh6353 That's an interesting thing to read, but I think you missed the joke a bit.
Edit: Nevermind!
"The declining quality of one piece" bro chill 😭😭
Luffy is a Haitian confirmed?? :0
😭😭😭 gotta be a coincidence that luffy would eat a cat
Luffy is a revolutionary and doesn't eat cats, yup...that checks. Also confirms celestial dragons are Americans.
@@kiritugeorge4684 Luffy tried eating Crocodile, he wouldn't stop at mere cats.
Edit: Now that I think about it, that mf tried eating Rob Lucci, so he ALREADY tried to eat a cat!!
@@trime1015 Lucci is a leopard, not a cat. And literally its said he passes on the cat. Read what the manga says, not what you want it to say.
@@kiritugeorge4684 Leopards ARE cats per definition, they all belong to the Felidae family (aka cat family). Lucci is probably in the cat-closet because he doesn't want to be associated with a cute kitten. Stop being a midwit online please, this is no big reach.
The voice that woke Nami up was Zeus. She's not asleep. Her knees were scuffed from tripping/falling, and Usopp was injured. Like IRL, not like the Japanese concept of a dream. In dreams, you don't get hurt or die. Felt like a very 'cinematic' telling of this tale.
Otherwise this is a "nothing happened, nothing-burger" chapter. 😐
Stephen Paul's translation is scuffed. The Japanese is closer to : 'Luffy is wondering if it's going to be good.' Viz translation is closer to 'Luffy would never eat a cat.' He grew up hunting, killing, and eating big cats, when Dadan was starving him in the foster-home. Remember Big Mom freaking out on the 12-day starvation/fast?😰
The Beehive, bees, and honey are useful ingredients; at least according to the original text (which is the only one you should consider).👌
Right/left panel mirrors are normal, common in One Piece, for aesthetic reasons.👭👩❤💋👨
Oda doesn't draw un-detailed small panels in the background!!!!! It must be an evil twin editor or QC worker letting it by!!!!! Oda is PERFECT!!!!! ➿🏴☠
P.S. Nami was sexier the way Oda drew her, the Nami-belt he drew, not the 'correct' way. Are you trying to get his editors fired? 😀 Cheers!
- Joe D.
Woow, I'm early
11:30 Chopper Couldnt smell the fake Strawhats (Zoro, Sanji, Nico Robin.) post time skip so im not to sure about the chopper part.
He said that watch the whole video next time
AM I SECOND?
Am i fourth. I hate 4
You're 3rd
Who cares
"If you're not first, you're last"
No you're you
5:50 oda got me
The Utgarda-Loki story acutally has even more things in common than you mention. In the version I know (idk if its the only or best one, probably not), Thor is challenged to a drinking contest where he looses because his mug is actually the sea, and made to look like a mug, Loki is challenged to an eating contest (very fitting for Luffy) where he looses because his rival is actually fire, and made to look like a giant, they are tasked with lifting a giant cat and they fail because the cat is actually Jormungandr, and they have to fight an old lady and loose because she's actually Death. So not only do all of these fit very nicely with One Piece, eating for Luffy, drinking for Zoro and fighting, but in the myth they fail the trials because Utgarda is using illusions to make unbeatable things look like ordinary things, so it also ties nicely with the hallucination speculation.
Elbaf is not real, its a dream/illusionary Kindom. Thats why its called Elbaf=Fable.
I just realized. Watching this, and reading the chapter again, Usopp is very brave to face up againt the giant cat when Nami mentions it might be a hallucination...
Like, by usopp standards that one act is already enough to convince me it might not be usopp...
Bro to say that chopper wouldn’t fall for fake crew members because of his nose is the most ignorant thing you could say 😂 chopper literally followed the fake crew around for chapters on fish man island…
Maybe but just 'maybe' Nami sick again and is dreaming all of it? Cause Oda did it when the original crew sailed away from Little Garden to Drum Island. Just a thought
8:06 I bet the mistake in chapter 1126 was made intentionally so they could differentiate between the everything else being intentional, and the tweet was planned ahead of time.
Imagine we‘re all wrong and this is just the new state of one piece
the one thing that makes me entertain this idea... is that Luffy is not wearing the straw hat... and I mean anywhere, it's not under his helmet and is not hanging on his back... this never happened before, in any other arc, when Luffy was wearing somehting on his head the straw hat was either hanging on his back like in the Colisseum of Dressrossa, or under his new hat like in whole cake island.
Thanks for making this video! I just started reading the manga two months ago after catching up on the anime, and I never would’ve noticed these details without your breakdown.
3:35
“he doesn’t pass food”
emergency food knows that😂😂
Can't wait for all this speculation from everyone to just be a series of slip ups.
IMU Devil fruit may be upgrade version of sugar fruit because of sugar fruit can make every one to forget who she turns into toy soldiers .
And whole void century has been erased from history
Talking about sanji hitting with the wrong leg reminds me of something I don’t see a lot of ppl bring up about the anime. When luffy transforms into g5 against lucci he goes in to punch with the right hand as we see in the reflection, but then in the scene to show both of them luffy hits with his left hand
if Kuma is still around this arc, will there be more information on the Buccaneers? perhaps Revealing other Buccaneers too? I put my bets on Blackbeard being a Buccaneer himself
perhaps that's why he can eat multiple fruits hmmmm 👀