A Thomistic Case For AI Souls? with Tim Jacobs

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @MrAdamo
    @MrAdamo 2 месяца назад

    I believe AI can conceptualize abstract universals. If you visualized the representational space of the deep layers of a classification network trained on a bunch of fruit, you would only find “lemonesque” images of lemons, surrounded by transitional forms into oranges and limes. You will not find images from the dataset in the model, only abstract representations with labels. The fact that some of these representations (features) look like the Aristotelian forms of all the images contained in the dataset tells me they are creating their own set of abstract universals. I imagine humans do the same thing.

    • @MrAdamo
      @MrAdamo 2 месяца назад

      *deep convolutional layers, fc layers would be nonsense I think

  • @DanFrederiksen
    @DanFrederiksen 2 месяца назад

    A robot cannot be made to feel pain, nothing mechanistic has the expressive power to manifest qualia. Thus because we have it we are something beyond the mechanistic. Extramechanistic aka spiritual.
    AI has no soul, it's not an issue.

    • @whatwouldjesustech
      @whatwouldjesustech  2 месяца назад

      If by "soul" you mean qualia, or consciousness, then I agree a robot does not have that. But if we mean the sensitive power, or at least certain actions within the sensitive power (I think it's fair to say that our phones have the ability to "hear" in some sense), then there is an argument for sensitive powers within certain machines.

    • @DanFrederiksen
      @DanFrederiksen 2 месяца назад

      @@whatwouldjesustech obviously it has sensors and processors. both are purely mechanistic and do not in any way warrant confusion with the spiritual. other than the broader perspective that the mechanistic domain is just a story told in great detail and persistence in the spiritual realm. a spiritual construct. but that's less certain. that we are spiritual and that a computer can't do it is a certainty. Not a maybe, not my opinion, not my conviction but a certainty.