50 bales in 50 minutes
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To celebrate 50 years of Vermeer round balers, we asked ourselves… could we bale 50 bales in 50 minutes in the same field the first bale was rolled 50 years ago? President and CEO, and third-generation Vermeer family member, Jason Andringa, accepted the challenge and the race was on. See how he did!
Loved the show. Reminds me of the Vermeer 50th year anniversary celebration I attended in Pella, IA. Gary Vermeer told the story of the round bailer. Originally they had trouble getting the hay to start rolling the bail which they overcame by dropping a fence post into the bailer. The hay would roll itself around the post. Gary said when springtime came and the snow melted there were fenceposts laying all around the field they fed the cows in.
Great innovation! Excited to see more of these units being produced. A 4' wide model would be great for many markets.
Why did you have to run through all the different generations so quickly at the end???? It would be awesome to see their full transformation.
Thats happen when you design a quick baler.. Everything goes a lot faster.
0.25x
you can slow down the video if that helps
@@robmalkin6863 Helps some, but even at 0.25 it's too fast
Pause the video…🤦🏽♂️
I would have liked to have seen all the balers from the 1st to the last in this clip
it would make a cool video to put the original 1970s baler next to this thing and make a video
Not bad for someone that doesn't drive a baler everyday!!
Guess he practiced a bit 😄
They are so intuitive now, the driver mostly just monitors the steering wheel and is trying not to eat all the snacks in the first hour.
@@Nanstar0k that's just farming in general. I find during seeding or harvest when I have 16+ hour days I have no food left in the cab after 9am
@@samuelsutton8299 this is the biggest problem with modern agriculture.
@@samuelsutton8299 16 hours nonstop? Thats insane both for you and the machine
You have a lot to be proud of with this type of family inventors. 😊😊😊😊😊😊
I did 40 bales in 40 minutes with a 5x5 Vermeer in 1978. Only happened once!
I think that you have to admit that Allis-Chalmers invented the round baler many years before that. However they were not as large as the Vermeer bales.
1: Vermeer did not invent the round baler. There were others including Allis Chalmers roto baler well before Vermeer ever produced a baler.
2: Your bales are not full size 6 foot bales, anyone who’s baled a decent amount of hay can see that from the video.
3: Many other manufacturers have been able to accomplish 60 full size 5x6 hard core bales in 60 minutes with tractor and baler combinations that still cost less than your sp model.
Facts over feelings, way to lay it out Mr. Logel. Laying down the 📠
Very cool bailer and video production. Congrats on your anniversary and incredible AG company innovation over your history.
Baller burst into flames !!!!!!
Congratulations on your invention 👍🙂🙂
I can make a bale in 60 sec. but it takes almost 60 seconds to tie it with string plus ejecting. Net wrap is the speed plus the zero turn definitely helps. Either way impressive.....
Почему вы не делаете 2х камерный пресс? Чтобы он не останавливался
GREAT VIDEO!!! 🔝🟩⬛️🟦🟥🟩⬛️🟦🟥👏🏻🔝🔝
what is the weight of the bale
Allis Chalmers Roto Baler was years before.
That’s nice all in all. Come to my farm in Western Pennsylvania and see how many round bales you make in an hour with all the hills.
Heck I can do 50 bales in 50 minutes with my 605 N in heavy 1st cutting. Its very easy to make and netwrap and kick out a bale in under 60 seconds. Its tough to keep it up all day though as you lose time changing netwrap.
Y’all make great equipment 👍👍
I don’t understand the need for this, what would be the point? You still need a tractor to mow, ted and rake. If the baler could be removed and the others attached this could be a tractor replacer...maybe. I understand the short turning radius, I have that on my Deere disc mower but if I still have to own tractors why buy this when all I need is a baler?
It's designed for operations that are large enough to have dedicated equipment for each stage of the operation - just like self-propelled swathers make sense for some situations, a self-propelled baler has its application. If you have mowing and baling happening at the same time in different fields, you obviously can't share a power unit between them and you may also not want to be switching implements every day - you might want the baler and the mower always ready to go.
That Vermeer baler tractor is on air springs so the operator can run faster than you can with a conventionaltractor. They’re ridiculously expensive, I can’t justify one in any way, but people want to go faster and faster.
@@bradshultz8385 I disagree… I make hay on 8000 acres of my own and rent another 4000 acres. On large acreage speed is key…I’m now running 4 x Massey 4160 round balers for customers I sell 4x5’s to but I’m predominantly a lg square producer. The MF 4160 is the same as the Vermeer 504 Pro. The Pro balers (made by Lely) brought Vermeer back from the dead in hay baler technology and reliability. The 4160 is the nicest, most reliable round baler I’ve owned and at $52k can’t be beat. The baler on the ZR5 is no nicer…and probably uses Lely technology. Other balers I like and have demoed are the Pottinger 155 V Pro that costs $84k and Deere V451R which is a 4160 clone for $100k.
My neighbor bales 4x5 at 9 mph and I've seen him average a bale every 48 sec in heavy wind row. incredible!! With a JD
A 4x5 bale is less than half the size of a 5x6.
@@davidlogel2350 math is hard!
@@tylermallory2504 if you know, you know, and you don’t know. 🤷♂️
@@davidlogel2350 so you're telling me a 5x6 out weighs a 4x5 by more than 50%?
@@davidlogel2350 it's a 35-40% increase no matter how you look at it. LoL
2:02 I counted 42 (including the one in the machine
And also at the last frame before it cut over to the one on the ground with the walkie-talkie
No automatic discharge?
And you still have to wrap them
John deere is on it a delay in the formation of the bale while the first bale is wrapping not on the market yet but close
@@bradleamon4466 just get the McHale fusion 3 keep the wrapped while it rolling along
It does automatically discharge the bale, it stops automatically, wraps, and dumps. The operator just has to push go button when the door latches.
In his own words "not bad for someone that has never bailed before". Yet he says he has used that same baler to bale corn stocks and also stated that he baled with the prototype. But, I guess thats typical ceo bs stroking there own horn.
Since you seem to have so much insight about this, what exactly is a "corn stock." I know plants can have "stalks" (single stems) but, I've never heard of plants with "stocks." So, exactly what is a "stock"?
I wondered the same thing. He is clearly in the office and not in the field due to his pale skin tone. But, they, good for him for celebrating the machine and trying to generate some interest in it. I think this is a good thing overall.
Wow a bale every minute!
Great job cool baler!
Вся проблема в буфере, почему нет промежуточного хранилища? Сделайте буфер для сбора,что бы машина не стояла.
The whole problem is in the buffer, why is there no intermediate storage? Make a buffer for collection so that the car is not standing.
God bless you sir
Did the netting last for 50 bales?
I wonder how fast the Vicon Fastbale could be.
Price ?
It is nice but what the heck are you supposed to do with round balers? Only small scale guys around here are still using round and they certainly aren't going to incur the cost of this unit. Our local mushroom farm won't even take rounds anymore...
What size is the bale tho. 4x5, 5x5 or a 5x6?
Neat machine. Like a zero turn lawnmower's big brother, lol.
What’s the bale weight?
What size are the bales?
We need this in uk
How much is one of those bad boys ?
People make a bale a minute with 5000 dollar round balers.
another Dutch invention i didn't know about!
So, 50 bales in 50 minutes, yeah 😊
A mchale fusion 3 can a make and wrap a bale in just under a minute
Misleading......bale height?,bale density,etc..... number of bale netwraps.if there are no parameters then I can take my baler and double that bale count in the same time to " just make bales.or get a krone on a 300hp tractor maybe make 10 large square bales...does count matter if the end tonnage is the same
Does Kendra come with it? Sign me up!
I’d want to demo one if it was a 4ft baler
Alice Chalmers invented the round baler …… way back in the 40's
Машина прикольная, но я так же делаю 50 тюков за 50 минут на прессе KUHN FB3130 с трактором Case IH Maxxum 130
If it's baling a bale in less then 1 minute, why wouldn't you show an entire cycle instead of just clips for 3 minutes. Watching a baler run from 1 bale to the next bale in < 1 minute would be impressive.
Сколько стоит такой?
Doing that with a deere or 45 seconds 🤔 just saying
Can you do square with that
This would be awesome if it was in Farming simulator 22! if you guys could talk to Giants software and maybe work something out?
been there done that done that massey
But a damn nice machine 👏
Krone hay baler take more
So what ,whats the point
Krone hatte mit einer Standart Presse 150ballen in 60minuten gemacht
Claas Cabine
I got 97 bales in an hour with a krone baler on the back of a john deere 6820😂
For what that machine cost it should put them in the shed also.
50 bales without the need to replace the bale liners, hhmmmm
Had to make a point about the 33rd Masonic bale... fail.
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not very impressive, particularly for a self propelled. i was watching a vid the other day from here in the UK with a guy using a McHale fusion round baled on the back of a Massey and it was putting a bale out every 30 seconds
And what a fine bale that would be . always please when a McHale baler arrived.
A 6 foot bale every 30 sec? or was it smaller?
Absolutely, quality bit of kit.
Get your ass back on that bailer the sun is still up
My dad
My rekord is Lely RP 180v xtra 64 bales on hour , straw wheat , size 180.
Iv baled a bale a minuet with a new holland b7060 crop cutter round baler in 9 bales per acer of hay before....
Your 605sm can do this
My Dad was the first National Sales Manager for the Vermeer baler group. He and I purchased the 13th baler ever built. We bought it used after it caught fire and the belts all burned. I was 16 at the time and did enough custom baling to afford the upgraded series baler 2 years later. I was on the cover of the Sept 1974 issue of Successful Farming with our 1650 Oliver and the shiny new baler ready to bale cornstalks. I'm still digging the chaff out of my right ear, no cab, always looking backwards.
In 1974 we had a stalk chopper head on a John Deere 14T baler. As the guy who stacked the wagon, that was a dirty nasty job. We paid our cousins $.10 a bale for the use of their baler.
Hey team, the flip pics from 2:44 to 2:50 should be a show unto itself, showing progression of models, maybe a min each for years produced, new innovation on that model, etc thanks
Good job, but you left some hay in the field in another 30 minutes you’d have been finished. Just kidding good equipment
if you're going to have the expense of a self propelled baler it needs to be a non-stop baler with an accumulator and probably a wrapper as well
Which is why I think the McHale baler/wrapper is still the better option.
The extra expense of that non-stop baler would be considerable, compared to the one demonstrated. Think Malcom missed the point of the video. 50 bales in 50 minutes.
@@andrewjones-productions you mean Krone?
Mchale bakers are absolute crap case and new holland are the only way to go
Why on earth is this machine not a continuous round baler. In fact if I remember correctly Vermeer already had a continuous baler, what happened!
The continuous round baler is still in the prototype stage I believe they’re 2 of them sitting near Stratford Ontario being worked on
So they can sell you this one, and then sell you the continuous version when they come out with it....
Krone has a very good continuous baler with great baledensity even at high speed called Krone Ultima
Need to add continuous bailing so you never have to stop
Completely agree. If you build a machine like this, that should have been requirement #1.
if they did that i am sure they can increase the speed a little bit too but not too much becouse guality is still needed
its called a square bailer
@@ericturner4850 wouldn't it be mechanically diffecult to make it like this self propelled round baller? especially if driven with some speed?
i just mean bailing with a regular square bailer you dont stop
And I baled 60 bales in an hour with a 568 jd and an old Duetz tractor 🤷🏼♂️. These SP Vermeers are supposed to be really impressive. I'd really like one but if they can't well out preform a tractor then what's the point.
Did the same with A kubota bv4580 and the bales where rock hard
Now if you can get your drills to do 500ft in 50 minutes!!
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50 bales does not say much.
It also depends on how large they are and how dense they are packed.
as well as how good the crop is makes a huge difference
2:04 should give an indication as she's leaning against one.
this model makes only 5 x 6 bales. So around 2000 lbs. The main difference in achieving this goal is imo the size of the field. Less times your turn around in the end of the row the more efficient it is
Krone Made a record with 149 bales in one hours 🤔
Aber alle drosseln raus genommen, das würde die Presse nicht lange durch halten
I had a Krone VP1500MC and in 2010 I was consistently pushing 58 Five foot round bales of Oaten hay out of her in an hour.
They were like bricks too none of those light bales some guys make.
Would of cracked 60 an hour but I just pushed a little too hard and blocked the pick up everytime I tried.
Also running 3.5 laps of net when binding. Anything less they would just burst the net when the chamber pressure came off the bale.
What model of Krone set that record and what size were the bales?
I switched from Krone to McHale and never looked back, however the new Krones look like they could be a pretty good baler!
@@brenttonks4249Size idk but the model should be the Ultima.
Problably with a square bailer
That's nothing compared to Kuhn. I made a bale every 23 seconds once. That's 156 bales in one hour.
This would be cool to see on the next Farming Simulator game
Allis Chalmers produced the Roto-baler in the 1950’s
I think they should claim to have built the first successful large round baler to define it from the Allis. One thing though - the Allis didn't have AC!
Yes, and I believe that roto-baler would have been hard pressed to make fifty bales in fifty minutes.
AC purchased the small round baler from Nebraska farmer Ummo F. Luebben who developed the round baler in 1910. I have asked why Allis did not see the need to develop the large round baler. Nevertheless, Vermeer did and revolutionized haymaking!
The round baler preceded 50 years ago. My grandpa had an AC round baler that I think came from the 40s. I think Vermeer expanded the bale over previous round bales, but it’s not accurate to say Vermeer “invented” the round baler.
I was going to say the same thing. Technically Allis Chalmers was the first round baler and also continuous round baler also but small size.
That’s not what they are saying, they are saying that Vermeer as a company started making round balers 50 years ago
@@huntersatterfield6656 no, he literally starts he video by saying Gary Vermeer invented the round baler which is clearly not true.
@@huntersatterfield6656
Not sure what you mean by”that’s not what they are saying.” Vermeer man said his grandfather “invented “ the round baler.
Hawk and allison that made the first small round baler
Vemerr the first large round baler
Allischambers were making small rounds as well before vemerr INVENTED the round baler
Back around 1972 an old man said to me that he'd see a field by my house baled with a " machine that made round bales" just after the war. Which came from Germany. Now that's going to be far more than 50 years ago.
Yep. Allis-Chalmers was building round balers in 1947, and had produced nearly 70,000 units by the time they ceased production in 1960, 12 years before Vermeer "invented" it. Although A-C produced it in 1947, the round baler had originally been conceived around 1910 by a fellow named Ummo Luebben.
@@tractorman129 TY 👍,,, I've seen the AC baler your refuring to,,,,
Yep.... I was born '53 and from a very early age I can remember round bales of Hay for winter cattle feed.. Indeed they were smaller, baled by an Allis-Chambers baler, called proto-bales, and a quick Google check says that baler started production run in 1947...so to say that his grandfather "invented" the round bale, no, re-worked it's design, maby.
Vermeer invented the LARGE round baler
I did this twenty years ago with a 7810 and a 535 net wrap
Same here. My dad and I have been able to bale 60 bales a hour with a 7510 and starting with a 566 and up to a 560M. If it was good hay and smooth field the only thing that would break the 60 bales a hour was stop and change net wrap.
140 HP tractor and John Deere 469 Sileage baler in moderate windrows. A bale every 57 seconds. But I will be going back to Vermeer for my next baler due to poor customer service from John Deere.
@@guy1704
We ran a 566 silage special on a 4255 JD. Awesome balers. The heaviest bales we did were 5ft 3rd cut Alfalfa 60% moisture. And the pick up kept up at 6mph.
I’m sure your grandpa would be proud! Nice idea to tribute the 50 / 50 progress though all the years !!!
And I average 60 bales an hour with a traditional baler?? And I’m no speed demon? It looks good but no point if I can do the same job with a cheaper machine!
Yes me to whit a mchale
@@mcCORMICMTX185 McHale makes small bales though. Any manufacturer can do that with small bales.
Might look good in this video but we had a demo on 2 of these units running against 569 John Deere premium balers that were one year old and the zr5 did just as many bales as our John Deere did. This was in cornstalks on mile long rows. Yes the zr5 was maybe way more comfortable and better ride but spending 250k on a baler just doesent seem feasible
Really like the concept of a self propelled Round Baler, but yeah quarter of a million bucks is definitely hard to justify.
@@jamesbarbour8400 in 30 years, I might be able to justify buying a used one. I can’t wait!
Vermeer certainly does make good stuff, though. Currently running a 605N, and baled the whole season without one breakdown.
Now if it could wrap and drop while picking up the next bale. Continuous, 100 per hour?
Came long ways in 50 yrs. I run a 605g Vermeer. Going to be completely rebuilt this winter. When time comes I'll have a brand new Vermeer round baler
Vermeer/Lely is the way to go... 504 and 604 Pro’s are well proven. I like that Massey sells the exact balers (from Lely) so you buy parts from whoever is cheaper/closer. I own two 504 Pro’s, one that’s a few years old and the other I got last year. I bale 6k acres and have very little issues if not any.
I just baught my first round baler the other day 605G hasn't been used in 10 year we drove it home greased it up looked for shot bearings. Found non next day took it out and made 25 bales with my 49 hp tractor.
Allis-chalmers made the first round baler in 1947
The first round baler was built by Allis Chalmers we had one 65 years ago
Great machine except it needs to hold bales so you can dump all your bales in a group...
I can bale 50 in 50 with a Kuhn 3160 behind a 7110 magnum easily
And so you should, the technology is there to make it happen.
The Kuhn is a good baler
I do a bale a minute with our Krone Comprima V 180 XC with knives up. 🤷🏼♂️
I bet it is more affordable too
@@johnanderson2451
Oh yes! I don’t understand the self propelled baler concept. Kinda cool but you’d better be doing a ton of custom baling a year to make it pay.
@@LucendsRanch a lot of custom baling, you can only use it for one thing, you can’t even feed with it
You should look into what the guys over at Vicon are doing. Their two-stage baler can produce round bales without stopping. Imagine how many bales you would have gotten if you didn't have to stop to unload.
I run a 2656a with twine. The fastest bale I’ve made is 2 minutes with my average closer to three minutes. A bale a minute is impressive
Gary Vermeer did not invent the round baler, he invented the "MODERN" Round Baler, which is two separate things, the modern round baler is characterised by using belts to shape the ball
I’m curious as to whether you have any of these machines in Australia?
old technics.... today roundbales must work without stops... Two Box system....