My experience is that I feel great for a few weeks after the acute withdrawal. Then the post acute withdrawal kicks in. Apparently it can take 2 years before you feel back to normal after quitting opiates, but it's different for everyone, and the suffering is intermittent, not constant, thank God.
I was in a state of crippling depression and no energy for 9 months after detoxing off fentanyl... and I ended up reaching out for help. I was placed on the lowest dose 4mg. Of suboxone... and I now feel normal.
@@bigdaddysbaked you might benefit from suboxone... I was not a fan of suboxone... but in the end, it has been life changing for me... most people take 8mg twice daily but I only take 4mg once daily... Best wishes to you😊
That subuxone must be strong stuff... when I went to rehab I was put on 16mg of subutex under tongue pills and it made me normal... You are saying you was detoxing from fentanyl 🤔 I was addicted to a regular brown heroine with 1-1.5g habit a day.. I have tried first 8mg of subutex but it almost didn't worked.. So I'm just wondering if your habit was just a little one or if the subuxone is much stronger than subutex. Well done for You. I'm now on 1.2mg of subutex and I keep tapering 0.4mg every 1-2months to make it go smoothly 🎉
@tonitucciarone9197 also with dosing in the UK they advise to use subutex once daily in the morning full dose, but when I was tapering I was using in example 8mg in the morning and if it didn't work quite well I was adding 0.4-0.8mg in the afternoon or sometimes it was kicking in the middle of the night with that weird legs pain then I was taking just 0.4mg and it was helping me go back to sleep 😴
I was on morphine for one year due to a broken hip and multiple surgeries. I didnt abuse it but my body was very dependent for sure. I got pregnant and decided with my GP to stop taking it. She advices a tapering but I wanted to stop right away. I was physical unwell for 5-7 days and after 3 weeks I had my normal energy back. Sweating was my longest withdrawal symptom and lasted for about 3 weeks as well. Today I have been off for 3 months and for the last many weeks I feel absolutely normal and my hip is not better nor worse.
Joe Rogan had a doctor on his pod recently that is addiction specialist and brain expert along with an ex MMA fighter. Both showed research that stated that men are tired during and after withdrawal bc they have extreme low levels testosterone.
I was off fentanyl for 3 years, i just quit about 1month ago, i was in bed for nearly 3 to 4 weeks taking bupenorphine, i dont have the urge to use but i did use twice to get some daily things done😢. I was going to the gym 4 years and a very very active person before and during using. This sucks..
I am going through the same thing. I was clean for 3 years before relapsing and now I'm a week into being clean again. The sickness is worse than I ever experienced with heroin. Fentanyl is no joke
I’m 9 months off hydrocodone for back pain and surgery, never abused. Also been taking suboxone for 9 months. I have absolutely no energy and have a hard time focusing. I have no desire to do the things I used to do. I sleep way too much, always fatigued, nit much appetite. Sleep has no pattern. I don’t know if it’s still detoxing or side effects from the SubX. Could it be both? Help! Thanks. 🙏🏼✌🏼
I had a 7 year oral morphine habit. I used Kratom to stop instantly but I then had to taper down from 10 to 12g leaf powder per day. I asked ChatGPT for a tapering schedule and it more or less got me down to 3 g/day...then I jumped to ZERO. 3 icky days followed, then I could sleep again. Of course the pain I was treating is back... in spades. Life is a joke really. Choose life, have a laugh
Hello. Just a question (or a few) on partial agonists like buprenorphine. When in the final stages of tapering of bup, the withdrawal seems to be just as bad as cold turkey heroin or other long term use of full agonists. Is the reason for this being that buprenorphine has a much larger affinity than heroin, and others? I had the impression that was the case, but a local dr said that has nothing to do with it? And I can't seem to find the case study, (maybe Dr Bonner) but I read somewhere that in the final stages of tapering bup, it has shown switching to a weaker, full agonist like codeine or hydrocodone, if monitored and coupled with other therapies can have a smoother transition completely off opiates. Just curious. Thank you for your time.
He doesn't know...I PERSONALLY think that the NALOXONE in suboxone has alot to do with anxiety, nervousness, insomnia...I'm 11days into cold turkey...my life sux azz right now
Omg i was using fent for 3 years straight, the buprenorphine always makes the withdrawls worse, i get sick to my bones the first day. I get hot and cold, my back feels tingly.
I’ve come off heroin, methadone and suboxone years ago. If you’re feeling withdrawal symptoms on par with cold turkey from heroin, you’re taper’s too harsh. You should feel very mild symptoms if you do it low and slow. Methadone, for example, I felt pretty much nothing when I tapered to the bottom. I had symptoms after a week weeks, but that was post-acute WD. Suboxone’s easier to come off than methadone, but there’s still some symptoms. The lack of sleep’s a bitch, but there’s things you can do to help it.
Been 1 year off subs and my energy seems to be even worse now. Have seen dr, blood tests, ect... have tried everything. Im sick of it. Extremely tired and fatigued all day.
After 20 years of doctor recommended dosages of oxy Cotton 120 mg a day I am on my 10th month clean from oxy .they Lower the dosage for three months then I had to white knuckle it cold turkey , I have lost out on so much and it’s so hard to get my mind and my body going my body still has the pain and I feel it Worst now than ever they just want to give me psychological medicine what’s a good natural treatment
My experience is that I feel great for a few weeks after the acute withdrawal. Then the post acute withdrawal kicks in. Apparently it can take 2 years before you feel back to normal after quitting opiates, but it's different for everyone, and the suffering is intermittent, not constant, thank God.
I was in a state of crippling depression and no energy for 9 months after detoxing off fentanyl... and I ended up reaching out for help. I was placed on the lowest dose 4mg. Of suboxone... and I now feel normal.
That's great, I'm going to the doctor Tuesday, I quit taking Roxi 30s and I have literally no energy
They were street ones though so basically fentanyl
@@bigdaddysbaked you might benefit from suboxone... I was not a fan of suboxone... but in the end, it has been life changing for me... most people take 8mg twice daily but I only take 4mg once daily... Best wishes to you😊
That subuxone must be strong stuff... when I went to rehab I was put on 16mg of subutex under tongue pills and it made me normal... You are saying you was detoxing from fentanyl 🤔 I was addicted to a regular brown heroine with 1-1.5g habit a day.. I have tried first 8mg of subutex but it almost didn't worked.. So I'm just wondering if your habit was just a little one or if the subuxone is much stronger than subutex. Well done for You. I'm now on 1.2mg of subutex and I keep tapering 0.4mg every 1-2months to make it go smoothly 🎉
@tonitucciarone9197 also with dosing in the UK they advise to use subutex once daily in the morning full dose, but when I was tapering I was using in example 8mg in the morning and if it didn't work quite well I was adding 0.4-0.8mg in the afternoon or sometimes it was kicking in the middle of the night with that weird legs pain then I was taking just 0.4mg and it was helping me go back to sleep 😴
I was on morphine for one year due to a broken hip and multiple surgeries. I didnt abuse it but my body was very dependent for sure. I got pregnant and decided with my GP to stop taking it. She advices a tapering but I wanted to stop right away. I was physical unwell for 5-7 days and after 3 weeks I had my normal energy back. Sweating was my longest withdrawal symptom and lasted for about 3 weeks as well.
Today I have been off for 3 months and for the last many weeks I feel absolutely normal and my hip is not better nor worse.
Joe Rogan had a doctor on his pod recently that is addiction specialist and brain expert along with an ex MMA fighter. Both showed research that stated that men are tired during and after withdrawal bc they have extreme low levels testosterone.
Thank you for the info, I mention these things to my doctor and I get crickets? Thanks again!
I was off fentanyl for 3 years, i just quit about 1month ago, i was in bed for nearly 3 to 4 weeks taking bupenorphine, i dont have the urge to use but i did use twice to get some daily things done😢. I was going to the gym 4 years and a very very active person before and during using. This sucks..
You said you were off for 3years & quit 1 month ago??? What did you quit I'm a little confused & how much were u doing?
I am going through the same thing. I was clean for 3 years before relapsing and now I'm a week into being clean again. The sickness is worse than I ever experienced with heroin. Fentanyl is no joke
I’m 9 months off hydrocodone for back pain and surgery, never abused. Also been taking suboxone for 9 months. I have absolutely no energy and have a hard time focusing. I have no desire to do the things I used to do. I sleep way too much, always fatigued, nit much appetite. Sleep has no pattern. I don’t know if it’s still detoxing or side effects from the SubX. Could it be both? Help! Thanks. 🙏🏼✌🏼
I had a 7 year oral morphine habit. I used Kratom to stop instantly but I then had to taper down from 10 to 12g leaf powder per day. I asked ChatGPT for a tapering schedule and it more or less got me down to 3 g/day...then I jumped to ZERO. 3 icky days followed, then I could sleep again. Of course the pain I was treating is back... in spades. Life is a joke really. Choose life, have a laugh
Hello. Just a question (or a few) on partial agonists like buprenorphine. When in the final stages of tapering of bup, the withdrawal seems to be just as bad as cold turkey heroin or other long term use of full agonists. Is the reason for this being that buprenorphine has a much larger affinity than heroin, and others? I had the impression that was the case, but a local dr said that has nothing to do with it?
And I can't seem to find the case study, (maybe Dr Bonner) but I read somewhere that in the final stages of tapering bup, it has shown switching to a weaker, full agonist like codeine or hydrocodone, if monitored and coupled with other therapies can have a smoother transition completely off opiates. Just curious. Thank you for your time.
He doesn't know...I PERSONALLY think that the NALOXONE in suboxone has alot to do with anxiety, nervousness, insomnia...I'm 11days into cold turkey...my life sux azz right now
Heroin and morphine is organic , subs are chemicals synthetic and it is the chemicals that fuxx up your brain. Which most doctors want agree on.
@@BlackVibeBallsack how'd u go ?
Omg i was using fent for 3 years straight, the buprenorphine always makes the withdrawls worse, i get sick to my bones the first day. I get hot and cold, my back feels tingly.
I’ve come off heroin, methadone and suboxone years ago. If you’re feeling withdrawal symptoms on par with cold turkey from heroin, you’re taper’s too harsh. You should feel very mild symptoms if you do it low and slow. Methadone, for example, I felt pretty much nothing when I tapered to the bottom. I had symptoms after a week weeks, but that was post-acute WD. Suboxone’s easier to come off than methadone, but there’s still some symptoms. The lack of sleep’s a bitch, but there’s things you can do to help it.
Been 1 year off subs and my energy seems to be even worse now. Have seen dr, blood tests, ect... have tried everything. Im sick of it. Extremely tired and fatigued all day.
Try about 3 months.....
After 20 years of doctor recommended dosages of oxy Cotton 120 mg a day I am on my 10th month clean from oxy .they Lower the dosage for three months then I had to white knuckle it cold turkey , I have lost out on so much and it’s so hard to get my mind and my body going my body still has the pain and I feel it Worst now than ever they just want to give me psychological medicine what’s a good natural treatment