Happy I'm not a store and can just ignore new magic stuff. The magic I remember is long dead. States/regionals/gp/pro tour/jss all gone or different, No magic player rewards, unaffordable cards, pushed commander crap, degenerate gamblers and speculators everywhere, endless sets coming out, unimaginably large sets, no more uniformity of cards, and monopoly style ip themed crap. If someone told me magic will have marvel characters, I'd quit right then because I have no interest in comic books and wouldn't want to play a marvel game.
@@chesterfieldthe3rd929not playing another bs artificially scarce investment tool "collectible" card game. Collectible is just marketing slang for "buy this, dumbass."
Getting old sucks. I remember going to work with two or three mono decks wrapped with rubber bands in my back pocket and playing with my buddies all night. Good old overnight maintenance at Walmart back in the nineties!
I played for 10 years but stopped years ago. Wotc is making it hard to even collect. I love just looking at cards. Boxes. Packs. I’m a nerd but man it’s a weird time.
Thanks for sharing. As a long time player, I was initially very off-put by the announcement, and have only become more disappointed about it. At the time of the LOTR set, I told people at my LGS that more and worse IP crossovers were on the way. I made the joke that we would have Dora the Explorer secret lairs. It was a great joke, and got lots of laughs, but we all held out enough hope that it was an extreme that WOTC wouldn’t go to. Here we are a couple years later and we have been told that we will be playing SpongeBob into walking dead. The irony is thick, and I’m considering disengaging. There is no walking back when greed is this high. It will only get worse. /rantoff
As an elder millennial who was actually excited for Foundations and getting back into playing, I do have to admit the last 24 hours has me feeling pretty beaten down. I like sharing in things when we're all genuinely excited for the product itself and I get that prices go up when that happens, but everything is feeling like such a pump and dump lately (both in cardboard and life in general) that I'm thinking it might be a mistake to re-engage with newer sets. Maybe its time to just admit the game I knew is gone and just find other hobbies.
I think there are a few ways you can engage with it without going with every new set there is. Probably the cheapest and still a way to get quite a bit of fun out of it, is finding a group or hosting an event with your own budget cube and do some drafts. I have a list for like 40€ with all kinds of synergies, my wife doesn't like heavy games though so gonna try find a few people near me who are interested in drafts just for fun
I'm in the same boat. I was gonna jump back into standard when foundations launched, but after the UB in standard news, I decided against it. I've always liked MTG lore, and has always been a kind of escape and way for me to enjoy fantasy that was its own thing. UB would totally break the immersion for me.
@@mrtattoocharlie Yes! There used to be multiple sets to a storyline along with comics and books and whatever else. It was a complete and well-rounded way to enjoy the story beyond just playing a card game. Now with UB taking over, even the card game seems like some tangential product to some other story and IP (or in this case, every other story and IP). I feel like if I got into it that the only outcome would be that my good memories are replaced with not so good memories. And then I'd try to sell my cards but I wouldn't get enough back for them to even buy lunch. The whole ecosystem and experience has become disingenuous.
@@chesterfieldthe3rd929 I did look into it quite a bit because it looks great. Have a set of the Beta starter decks but haven't managed to con anyone into a game yet. I have yet to find a store anywhere near me that acknowledges it as a thing either. Including the stores on the "find a store" part of their website. I've only found a friend of a friend who even knew what it was. Sadly, just not a thing in my area so giving it a try would just be ordering online and collecting. Not exactly the experience I was looking for.
The only thing worth investing in the last 4 years were commander decks. I bought 5-10 sets of every release from 2020-2024. Everything but the random collector box is still available haha. Magic is lost. The power is outta control. Bannings. Pokémon is where it’s at. One box! One ETB!
The fact the kid bent the cards and raged immediately like that is truly sad… 😞 I can hardly stand that. As a store owner I bet that was hard to sit through. You articulated things very well, great video! I have faith MTG will prevail through the odd times shortly ahead. There will certainly be another wave of interest, it’s an incredible game at its core! 💜💯
Happened to D&D as well. And guess what, it absolutely has a political element too. The new crowd remakes hobbies this way in their image because they think in communities and collectives. We needed to have gatekept harder.
You are spot on about the people getting into nerdy stuff because it's cool now... and this is exactly why wizards and magic is heading in the direction it is now... I'm sure you're aware that Hasbro isn't doing so well, as far as I know wizards is the only thing profitable for them right now, and if you consider this it's not really a surprise that they're trying to milk this hype as hard as they can... also if you look into wizards history a bit, everything started down this path when Chris Cocks became the CEO of wizards in 2016 and just went into overdrive since he became the CEO of Hasbro in 2022... sadly you are also totally right about not caring about the game anymore, that's clear from Mark Rosewaters comment regardig the online outrage regarding these decisions, he justified it with the sales data LOTR generated them...
Honestly, sometimes gatekeeping isn't a bad thing. The more mainstream something becomes the more diluted it becomes because it has to appeal to "the masses". It can be acceptable without it being mainstream. It's ruining hobbies that I enjoy and I'm tired of it. From MTG to retro gaming.....it's insanity.
Hey man, long time player here myself, since the 90s. I left shortly after the Hasboro acquisition because the writing was very quickly was all over the walls. MTGs history is actually marred by cover ups and bowing to the mob. Hasboro is walking around a corpse on puppet strings. It's been over, for a long time. This is just the reckoning. Flesh and blood is the way to go baby.
Playing against a different universe will not be fun for either player. We will have to see how this fleshes out. Playing against the same universe will work though. Another problem is mixed universe decks, bizarre and immersion breaking. Sigh … this will be rough. Sorcery and grand archive will probably grow due to this
They didn’t have to do anything they could’ve let knockoffs be knock offs, and kept to their core product, which is original cards and original themes. They did universes beyond to rake in the dough end of story.
Technically they would have had to make their own IP more appealing. It has been failing for years now. But instead they took the lazy / coward route in my opinion by trying to piggy back off of other IPS success.
Even the kids are ruining the love of card games now - company policies, scalpers, investors, over competetive 40 year olds and now the gen alpha investor bro offspring
I've ran into kids like that as well. I feel bad for them. Worrying about grading and flipping a zard doesn't sound like something they actually enjoy. I think at this point Gatekeeping is a necessity for things to continue in a healthy way in our hobbies. Investment bros ran to the game I play after a big youtuber promoted it and it caused quite the upheaval in the community that hasn't healed yet several years later.
I'm out of Magic now. I had mixed feeling with the Marvel universes beyond as a long time comic and mtg fan but having all UB go into standard was the last straw. 3 UB sets and 3 Primier sets is also too much. Everything is too much. Rather than feeling down after every UB set announcement, every reprint, every masters type set and all the power creep, its just better for my sanity, I think, to just walk away now.
Just like the tubers who give financial advice on how to live overseas with no money or selling courses. Humans are predators and sell to the sucker's 😂😂😂
After 10 years of playibg Magic... I need to walk away form this. I don't mind that UB is a thing, I'm happy that people like it, its just not for me. The whole modern era is wild... but this leave a void. I love Magic, I really do... but this isn't it... I've started moving into Flesh and Blood and it's been a wonderful welcome. I'm hoping I can find a good home in FaB like I did Magic.
Dude... I wish when i was a child they gave out pokemon cards for halloween. I only opened TWO packs as a kid... And for him to just destroy them? How could you damage them like that. Pokemon are supposed to be your friends! Why trash them...
Yeah mainstream tends to ruin good stuff. It ruins this and is doing its damage to warhammer etc same things diluted and meh. I just wish the way it all used to be.
WOTC wants 3 turns games. So modern/pioneer/standard all look the same. The power is creep is there to keep the games fast. Isn't cheaper to play poker by that standards?
The shift of trying to make nerd culture mainstream has made it unbearable. None of my hobbies are the same, they've changed for the worse as they've tried to match the current culture.
I think it’s a huge misconception to think that foundations is some kind of newbie set. Yes, it has a few auxiliary products that are new player focused but the real set is designed as a “baseline” for years to come, not some low powered new player jank set.
While a lot of the new cards for standard have been pretty good, I'm not happy with the overall format, but just the volume of cards between the list, special guest, commander sets, secret lairs, I just can't keep up anymore and everything feels cookie cutter copy and paste abilities all over the place. I've lost a lot of interest and am actually considering downsizing my old collection. I don't feel pride any more having those cards. I am starting to feel like a shill selling any sealed product anymore. It feels like the demand is all just fake and WotC will reprint and steal the money from people's collections at every opportunity. Nothing ever appreciates anymore or is exciting any more. Sorcery is just 10x better but so few people play.
Just sell to that kid. Other than that. I swear, alot of these mtg complainers come across as the kids in the back of the cafeteria who now have a chance to spew out their BS. Gatekeepy much of your hobby? Wtf. Love the hypocrisy. This is why you dont listen to plebs.
Happy I'm not a store and can just ignore new magic stuff. The magic I remember is long dead. States/regionals/gp/pro tour/jss all gone or different, No magic player rewards, unaffordable cards, pushed commander crap, degenerate gamblers and speculators everywhere, endless sets coming out, unimaginably large sets, no more uniformity of cards, and monopoly style ip themed crap. If someone told me magic will have marvel characters, I'd quit right then because I have no interest in comic books and wouldn't want to play a marvel game.
Sorcery Contested Realm is amazing. Old mtg feel to the art and really fun games. I'm really enjoying it.
@@chesterfieldthe3rd929not playing another bs artificially scarce investment tool "collectible" card game. Collectible is just marketing slang for "buy this, dumbass."
Getting old sucks. I remember going to work with two or three mono decks wrapped with rubber bands in my back pocket and playing with my buddies all night. Good old overnight maintenance at Walmart back in the nineties!
I’ve been thinking about this for awhile. You can thank the sneaker heads / resellers. Their market got destroyed so they moved to us.
I played for 10 years but stopped years ago. Wotc is making it hard to even collect. I love just looking at cards. Boxes. Packs. I’m a nerd but man it’s a weird time.
Hard agree. Corporate profit will always supercede all else.
@@rennnem and they will ruin themselves eventually as a result if its always only about the bottom line
If you like checking out cards, you should check out Sorcery: Contested Realm - Gorgeous.
Thanks for sharing. As a long time player, I was initially very off-put by the announcement, and have only become more disappointed about it. At the time of the LOTR set, I told people at my LGS that more and worse IP crossovers were on the way. I made the joke that we would have Dora the Explorer secret lairs. It was a great joke, and got lots of laughs, but we all held out enough hope that it was an extreme that WOTC wouldn’t go to. Here we are a couple years later and we have been told that we will be playing SpongeBob into walking dead. The irony is thick, and I’m considering disengaging. There is no walking back when greed is this high. It will only get worse. /rantoff
As an elder millennial who was actually excited for Foundations and getting back into playing, I do have to admit the last 24 hours has me feeling pretty beaten down. I like sharing in things when we're all genuinely excited for the product itself and I get that prices go up when that happens, but everything is feeling like such a pump and dump lately (both in cardboard and life in general) that I'm thinking it might be a mistake to re-engage with newer sets. Maybe its time to just admit the game I knew is gone and just find other hobbies.
I think there are a few ways you can engage with it without going with every new set there is. Probably the cheapest and still a way to get quite a bit of fun out of it, is finding a group or hosting an event with your own budget cube and do some drafts. I have a list for like 40€ with all kinds of synergies, my wife doesn't like heavy games though so gonna try find a few people near me who are interested in drafts just for fun
I'm in the same boat. I was gonna jump back into standard when foundations launched, but after the UB in standard news, I decided against it. I've always liked MTG lore, and has always been a kind of escape and way for me to enjoy fantasy that was its own thing. UB would totally break the immersion for me.
@@mrtattoocharlie Yes! There used to be multiple sets to a storyline along with comics and books and whatever else. It was a complete and well-rounded way to enjoy the story beyond just playing a card game. Now with UB taking over, even the card game seems like some tangential product to some other story and IP (or in this case, every other story and IP). I feel like if I got into it that the only outcome would be that my good memories are replaced with not so good memories. And then I'd try to sell my cards but I wouldn't get enough back for them to even buy lunch. The whole ecosystem and experience has become disingenuous.
Sorcery Contested Realm is amazing. Give it a try!
@@chesterfieldthe3rd929 I did look into it quite a bit because it looks great. Have a set of the Beta starter decks but haven't managed to con anyone into a game yet. I have yet to find a store anywhere near me that acknowledges it as a thing either. Including the stores on the "find a store" part of their website. I've only found a friend of a friend who even knew what it was. Sadly, just not a thing in my area so giving it a try would just be ordering online and collecting. Not exactly the experience I was looking for.
The only thing worth investing in the last 4 years were commander decks. I bought 5-10 sets of every release from 2020-2024. Everything but the random collector box is still available haha. Magic is lost. The power is outta control. Bannings. Pokémon is where it’s at. One box! One ETB!
there is a difference between investing and collecting
Happy Halloween bro!
Hey man, stumbled upon your channel again. I watched your videos from looong ago. Great to see you again. Subbed 🙏
The fact the kid bent the cards and raged immediately like that is truly sad… 😞 I can hardly stand that. As a store owner I bet that was hard to sit through. You articulated things very well, great video! I have faith MTG will prevail through the odd times shortly ahead. There will certainly be another wave of interest, it’s an incredible game at its core! 💜💯
It happened with comics... it is an invasion... I call it cultural colonialism. I will be seeking reparations in 20 years.
Happened to D&D as well.
And guess what, it absolutely has a political element too. The new crowd remakes hobbies this way in their image because they think in communities and collectives. We needed to have gatekept harder.
DEI poisoned everything.
You are spot on about the people getting into nerdy stuff because it's cool now... and this is exactly why wizards and magic is heading in the direction it is now... I'm sure you're aware that Hasbro isn't doing so well, as far as I know wizards is the only thing profitable for them right now, and if you consider this it's not really a surprise that they're trying to milk this hype as hard as they can... also if you look into wizards history a bit, everything started down this path when Chris Cocks became the CEO of wizards in 2016 and just went into overdrive since he became the CEO of Hasbro in 2022... sadly you are also totally right about not caring about the game anymore, that's clear from Mark Rosewaters comment regardig the online outrage regarding these decisions, he justified it with the sales data LOTR generated them...
We're here with you Man!
Honestly, sometimes gatekeeping isn't a bad thing. The more mainstream something becomes the more diluted it becomes because it has to appeal to "the masses".
It can be acceptable without it being mainstream. It's ruining hobbies that I enjoy and I'm tired of it. From MTG to retro gaming.....it's insanity.
Hey man, long time player here myself, since the 90s. I left shortly after the Hasboro acquisition because the writing was very quickly was all over the walls. MTGs history is actually marred by cover ups and bowing to the mob. Hasboro is walking around a corpse on puppet strings. It's been over, for a long time. This is just the reckoning. Flesh and blood is the way to go baby.
Isn't Embercleave not in Standard still because its in the special guest slot?
Damn! I missed that, the symbols looks so close with this set. I guess that kind of proves my point about confusion in legality though...
Glad I quit playing mtg in invasion /trollface
Playing against a different universe will not be fun for either player. We will have to see how this fleshes out.
Playing against the same universe will work though.
Another problem is mixed universe decks, bizarre and immersion breaking.
Sigh … this will be rough. Sorcery and grand archive will probably grow due to this
Foundation cards are strong 💪 😂
They didn’t have to do anything they could’ve let knockoffs be knock offs, and kept to their core product, which is original cards and original themes. They did universes beyond to rake in the dough end of story.
Technically they would have had to make their own IP more appealing. It has been failing for years now. But instead they took the lazy / coward route in my opinion by trying to piggy back off of other IPS success.
Even the kids are ruining the love of card games now - company policies, scalpers, investors, over competetive 40 year olds and now the gen alpha investor bro offspring
I've ran into kids like that as well. I feel bad for them. Worrying about grading and flipping a zard doesn't sound like something they actually enjoy. I think at this point Gatekeeping is a necessity for things to continue in a healthy way in our hobbies. Investment bros ran to the game I play after a big youtuber promoted it and it caused quite the upheaval in the community that hasn't healed yet several years later.
theres not a single set im interested in next year, maybe innistrad
Here for the rants
I'm out of Magic now. I had mixed feeling with the Marvel universes beyond as a long time comic and mtg fan but having all UB go into standard was the last straw. 3 UB sets and 3 Primier sets is also too much. Everything is too much. Rather than feeling down after every UB set announcement, every reprint, every masters type set and all the power creep, its just better for my sanity, I think, to just walk away now.
OHBB, a Kevin rant? Let's go!
I say this because I'm likely gonna agree
I like your rants
STANDARD WILL BE CRAZY POWERFUL MORE POWERFUL THAN 2016 MODERN AND EVERYTHING SNOWBALLS SO THEY CAN MAKE A PLAYABLE SEPHIROTH
Sephiroth, dun dun dun dun dun.
Embercleave will not be coming to standard. I had a heart attack also when I saw it and then I saw the set symbol.
More money for Bandai games I say!
They’ve got plenty and they’re all pretty ok-great!😊
Hey, pokemon Go is getting a bit later 8 years later.
How are you supposed to know doubling season isn't playable in standard? Is the symbol different? Wtf?
the companies deserve some share of the blame for this, they build in FOMO and scarcity
Just like the tubers who give financial advice on how to live overseas with no money or selling courses. Humans are predators and sell to the sucker's 😂😂😂
After 10 years of playibg Magic... I need to walk away form this. I don't mind that UB is a thing, I'm happy that people like it, its just not for me. The whole modern era is wild... but this leave a void. I love Magic, I really do... but this isn't it... I've started moving into Flesh and Blood and it's been a wonderful welcome. I'm hoping I can find a good home in FaB like I did Magic.
Dude... I wish when i was a child they gave out pokemon cards for halloween. I only opened TWO packs as a kid... And for him to just destroy them? How could you damage them like that. Pokemon are supposed to be your friends! Why trash them...
I attack with my little pony and defend with captain america
Yeah mainstream tends to ruin good stuff. It ruins this and is doing its damage to warhammer etc same things diluted and meh. I just wish the way it all used to be.
Yup large influxes of new peoplw into your hobbies suck, ESPECIALLY, if they share some sort of demographic that'll unify their interest.
wait, theyre putting non standard cards into the core 5 year set? haha omg theyre so dumb
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WOTC wants 3 turns games. So modern/pioneer/standard all look the same. The power is creep is there to keep the games fast. Isn't cheaper to play poker by that standards?
The shift of trying to make nerd culture mainstream has made it unbearable. None of my hobbies are the same, they've changed for the worse as they've tried to match the current culture.
I think it’s a huge misconception to think that foundations is some kind of newbie set. Yes, it has a few auxiliary products that are new player focused but the real set is designed as a “baseline” for years to come, not some low powered new player jank set.
Well, they sort of marketed it that way, with beginner boxes and starter collections.
To be fair to WotC, standard is not a format that is meaningfully played and is unlikely to make a comeback any time soon.
Wasn't it WotC that killed the format?
Yeah thats why the game is dying.
While a lot of the new cards for standard have been pretty good, I'm not happy with the overall format, but just the volume of cards between the list, special guest, commander sets, secret lairs, I just can't keep up anymore and everything feels cookie cutter copy and paste abilities all over the place. I've lost a lot of interest and am actually considering downsizing my old collection. I don't feel pride any more having those cards. I am starting to feel like a shill selling any sealed product anymore. It feels like the demand is all just fake and WotC will reprint and steal the money from people's collections at every opportunity. Nothing ever appreciates anymore or is exciting any more. Sorcery is just 10x better but so few people play.
I feel you. Hate being married to the game.
Just sell to that kid. Other than that. I swear, alot of these mtg complainers come across as the kids in the back of the cafeteria who now have a chance to spew out their BS. Gatekeepy much of your hobby? Wtf. Love the hypocrisy. This is why you dont listen to plebs.
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For someone scraping by running a game store in southern Utah, you sure do whine alot about your dominant product for sales.