That's a tough question. I think it depends on what you're looking for. Bryton has the best taillight in my opinion but buggy software (it still needs a few firmware updates before it's locked in). Magicshine / Magene have great detection but you can't disable the brake sensor. Garmin is the most tested and stable but it's hard to justify the premium unless you have a lot of other Garmin devices.
Thanks! Testing lumen output is a bit tricky, there are sites like wetestlights.com that use more scientific setups to measure real-output. Without a bench-marked setup I would be worried about misleading people with data.
for a price of 101 € ( cheapest price ive seen) a good device. bright taillight and real impressive. Videos never show the real power of the taillights. Radar functionality is good and works fine. better than garmin: the solid mount, so im happy with the bryton guardia
It's definitely a great value. Bryton's latest software addresses a lot of the initial issues with over-sensitivity of the radar as well. Expect to see even more bike rear radars in the market this year, we just got back from Eurobike where CYCPLUS and iGPSPORT had radar prototypes on display.
Hi. I just picked up a Gardia 300L with the latest firmware and have been testing battery life consumption in Day Flash with brake sensing turned on. So far I’ve consumed 63% of a full charge over 6 hours. By my projections, I’ll only get 9.5 hours of runtime significantly undershooting the stated 17 hours. Did you see that much additional consumption with brake sensing turned on? Also, I’m noticing that the app reports a battery percentage at the end of a ride that will then be 10% higher at the start of my next ride after a period of being in standby. For example, I ended today’s ride at 18%, but when I connected to the radar via the app several hours later, it was then reporting 28% battery life. Did you notice this behavior?
Looks like the battery issue was addressed by the latest firmware update. I also no longer keep it in standby. New annoyance however with the latest firmware: the 300L no longer retains the brake light setting. Once your turn it on, it defaults to brake sensing on. If you want to keep it off, you need to open the app on your phone, turn it off, and then keep the app open, I believe. All in all, still happy with the light though.
are tail light need to be focus? I mean, can approach you not only from directly behind. For example, bus or truck driver sit high, which slightly shifted them up, so they see less of direct pointed lightis, Is it preferable flood light in this case? It's not light source any meen, so its not realy need to be iratatingly bright
Good question. You are correct - you want a combination of flood + focused for optimal visibility. I think the Bryton has nailed the taillight here as it has both: a focused center LED (visible from long distances) and the two smaller LEDs to illuminate the lens to improve side visibility.
Hi, do you know if garmin varia or bryton gardia or magene will work my 'Lezyne Mega C' bike computer? Lezyne Mega C' bike computer supports ANT+, i want to double confirm that. Thank you :)
As far as I can tell, I don't think any Lezyne computers support radar displays. Even though it supports ANT+ they would need to integrate a display area on the user interface to display the data.
sorry, one more question. I have garmin fenix 6s pro watch. How about the alert sound when garmin varia is connected to the garmin watch? do you know if the alert sound is helpful personally? @@TheSweetCyclists
@@shaikdiary I haven't tried it personally, but I've used similar features that have audible warnings. It's pretty helpful, and most GPS computers will use some sort of beep to let you know cars are coming. It lets you keep your eye on the road, and you get a "all clear" beep when there are no vehicles detected anymore.
I don't believe there is a camera taillight + radar on the market that isn't Garmin right now. Magicshine does have a taillight + camera DV model that's pretty affordable though.
Not always. Most bike radars are also triggered by approaching cyclists as long as the speed difference between you and the other person is large enough. I'd recommend a bike mirror or just riding with one head phone out or bone conductive headphones so you can hear your surroundings.
If it's anything like their flagship s800 computer then it will lack a key feature like the S800 does with strava live segments. Also please note Bryton customer service is non existent.
Aside from a few software updates to improve the detection of car clusters the Gardia works pretty well out of the box. Bryton has even done a good job with the stand-alone app - it's a lot less buggy than their Active app. I suspect the lack Strava live segments on the computers is a licensing issue - I'm guessing Bryton would have to pay Strava money to add the feature.
I've reported an issue that exists in all Bryton cycle computers, but they never ever reply! I like to do night rides, particularly in winter, when temps get below zero here in the UK. None of the Bryton computers will show temperatures below zero, they all dash ( - - - ) out. The sensor MUST be able to record negative temperatures, as they show up in ride data that gets uploaded, so it's a bug with their cycle computer firmware. I first reported this 18 months ago. I got one reply to say they will look in to it, and they'll get back to me. They never did! I sent multiple emails asking for an update - nothing. I tested the newer models late last year, and found out that they also have this issue. I reported it once again, and didn't get any kind of acknowledgement. Bryton are simply a disgrace when it comes to customer service, and reviewers should boycott them.
Great review, I'm still deciding on which radar to purchase and this price point seems a lot more appealing compared to a Varia unit.
Great video! Which one you prefer? Garmin, Magicshine and Bryton ?
That's a tough question. I think it depends on what you're looking for. Bryton has the best taillight in my opinion but buggy software (it still needs a few firmware updates before it's locked in). Magicshine / Magene have great detection but you can't disable the brake sensor. Garmin is the most tested and stable but it's hard to justify the premium unless you have a lot of other Garmin devices.
Love the reviews! Just a suggestion, have you thought of getting a lumen meter? :)
Thanks! Testing lumen output is a bit tricky, there are sites like wetestlights.com that use more scientific setups to measure real-output. Without a bench-marked setup I would be worried about misleading people with data.
for a price of 101 € ( cheapest price ive seen) a good device. bright taillight and real impressive. Videos never show the real power of the taillights. Radar functionality is good and works fine. better than garmin: the solid mount, so im happy with the bryton guardia
It's definitely a great value. Bryton's latest software addresses a lot of the initial issues with over-sensitivity of the radar as well. Expect to see even more bike rear radars in the market this year, we just got back from Eurobike where CYCPLUS and iGPSPORT had radar prototypes on display.
Hi. I just picked up a Gardia 300L with the latest firmware and have been testing battery life consumption in Day Flash with brake sensing turned on. So far I’ve consumed 63% of a full charge over 6 hours. By my projections, I’ll only get 9.5 hours of runtime significantly undershooting the stated 17 hours. Did you see that much additional consumption with brake sensing turned on?
Also, I’m noticing that the app reports a battery percentage at the end of a ride that will then be 10% higher at the start of my next ride after a period of being in standby. For example, I ended today’s ride at 18%, but when I connected to the radar via the app several hours later, it was then reporting 28% battery life. Did you notice this behavior?
My Bryton 750SE computer does this exact thing! Must be a Bryton thing.
Looks like the battery issue was addressed by the latest firmware update. I also no longer keep it in standby.
New annoyance however with the latest firmware: the 300L no longer retains the brake light setting. Once your turn it on, it defaults to brake sensing on. If you want to keep it off, you need to open the app on your phone, turn it off, and then keep the app open, I believe.
All in all, still happy with the light though.
are tail light need to be focus? I mean, can approach you not only from directly behind. For example, bus or truck driver sit high, which slightly shifted them up, so they see less of direct pointed lightis, Is it preferable flood light in this case? It's not light source any meen, so its not realy need to be iratatingly bright
Good question. You are correct - you want a combination of flood + focused for optimal visibility. I think the Bryton has nailed the taillight here as it has both: a focused center LED (visible from long distances) and the two smaller LEDs to illuminate the lens to improve side visibility.
Hi, do you know if garmin varia or bryton gardia or magene will work my 'Lezyne Mega C' bike computer? Lezyne Mega C' bike computer supports ANT+, i want to double confirm that. Thank you :)
As far as I can tell, I don't think any Lezyne computers support radar displays. Even though it supports ANT+ they would need to integrate a display area on the user interface to display the data.
Thank you :)@@TheSweetCyclists
sorry, one more question. I have garmin fenix 6s pro watch. How about the alert sound when garmin varia is connected to the garmin watch? do you know if the alert sound is helpful personally? @@TheSweetCyclists
@@shaikdiary I haven't tried it personally, but I've used similar features that have audible warnings. It's pretty helpful, and most GPS computers will use some sort of beep to let you know cars are coming. It lets you keep your eye on the road, and you get a "all clear" beep when there are no vehicles detected anymore.
very nice. the lack of camera is a bit disappointing but i don't think i will be paying 300€ more just for that 😀
I don't believe there is a camera taillight + radar on the market that isn't Garmin right now. Magicshine does have a taillight + camera DV model that's pretty affordable though.
Waht Is the differenze between 300 and 300l version?
They are the same radar and are just different ways to refer to it, there is only one Bryton radar on the market currently.
Can it pair with a Garmin edge?
Yes, all the bike radars use the same communication protocol so you can connect them to any GPS computer that supports radars.
Compatível com o Bryton 420?
I don't use the roads but I do cycle on a trail with my headphones in, would this alert me to cyclists coming up behind me on the trail?
Not always. Most bike radars are also triggered by approaching cyclists as long as the speed difference between you and the other person is large enough. I'd recommend a bike mirror or just riding with one head phone out or bone conductive headphones so you can hear your surroundings.
If it's anything like their flagship s800 computer then it will lack a key feature like the S800 does with strava live segments. Also please note Bryton customer service is non existent.
Aside from a few software updates to improve the detection of car clusters the Gardia works pretty well out of the box. Bryton has even done a good job with the stand-alone app - it's a lot less buggy than their Active app. I suspect the lack Strava live segments on the computers is a licensing issue - I'm guessing Bryton would have to pay Strava money to add the feature.
@@TheSweetCyclists I'm sure, but all the other players seem to have secured, Wahoo, Polar, Garmin, Lezyne, Hammerhead, Mio etc
I've reported an issue that exists in all Bryton cycle computers, but they never ever reply!
I like to do night rides, particularly in winter, when temps get below zero here in the UK. None of the Bryton computers will show temperatures below zero, they all dash ( - - - ) out. The sensor MUST be able to record negative temperatures, as they show up in ride data that gets uploaded, so it's a bug with their cycle computer firmware. I first reported this 18 months ago. I got one reply to say they will look in to it, and they'll get back to me. They never did! I sent multiple emails asking for an update - nothing. I tested the newer models late last year, and found out that they also have this issue. I reported it once again, and didn't get any kind of acknowledgement.
Bryton are simply a disgrace when it comes to customer service, and reviewers should boycott them.
What is the difference between the Gardia R300 and the Gardia R300L - what does the letter "L" mean? Thank you
There is no difference. The product name is officially Gardia R300L but most people have been referring to it as the Gardia R300.