Fascinating the connection between our own relative spiritual health, or lack thereof, and the collective depravity of the power systems that sadly influence human conduct to such a great degree. I so appreciate those, like these 2 fine humans, Caitlin Johnstone is another example, whose work accentuates the connectedness between our (generally poor and mostly diminishing in this system) personal well being and the sickness so pervasive in all our systems of power which tends to reward sociopathy and atomize and exile our Medea Benjamins and Chris Hedges. My own experience tells me that paradoxically my fight against my own sloth and cowardice to stand up to the evil power dynamics of our age goes far towards healing my inner failings
It takes a certain level of humanity to feel empathy toward others and to forgive oneself and others. Tragically, where entering a political moment in the US where those qualities are absent among many in power. Great discussion!
I've personally dealt with disconnected/broken and morally fragmented people (including women). They are everywhere .They seem to have normal lives, but in reality they are broken or evil and don't seem to care. It's frightening !! Thank you both 💙
And how is that explained? How do most Americans remain complicit in the Isr evils being perpetrated on Palestinians and ever more broadly across the ME?
Very interesting. I believe both these guys are very caring and very special. The bit I would have argued Gabor Mate with is over Henry Kissinger, yes he was a mass murderer....with something missing in his brain BUT what horrifies me is the MSM and politicians PRAISED this guy when he died. Same with the My Lai massacre....when the US military helicopter pilot Hugh Thompson helped stop one of the most infamous massacres of the Vietnam War , he was hated up to his death by Americans as some sort of 'snitch'. So it is the general public who ALLOW evil to happen by their leaders that terrify me.
I don’t believe the majority of the public support corruption and murder. The truth is hidden and only comes to light decades after the event. Elites control and kill the “common man.”
That's the case in so many societies man. People just become tribal and stick with their side even when they know what their side is doing is wrong. You are right and that's why the best changes for the better come from the masses.
Yes, there's a willingness to seek comfort in identification with extremist, usually rightwing, authoritarian power. Patriarchal elements of might-is-right. They direct their loyalty and empathy toward their perceived protectors who IMO are often psycho paths.
Thank you Gabor Mate and Chris Hedges. IMO, we also need to understand and recognize how political psychopathy operates and its relation to extremist, usually rightwing ideology and character tendencies.
Listening to this conversation between Dr. Mate and Chris Hedges truely brings both knowledge, hope, and confidence that our collective humanity will bring about an end to all atrocious injustices through the greatest superpower of them all: Empathy,- the driving force for change!
This questioning of authority and asking "why" and "what if..." Has always been with me. I studied the Holocaust and its causes for 30 years. I couldn't ignore the textbook dehumanization and apartheid I saw when finally looking into Palestine/Israel relations. The generational trauma is tragic, but should not have been inflicted on another population for Z supremacy.
This is a fantastic discussion. Rubin Blank an ego psychologist was really big on you have to accept your parents so this lends to the discussion. He also was able to talk about his toddler self and said his older sisters called him Rubin the Terrible. I think one of the ways to look and now and. the past is through a telescope and we as a civilization have been terrible toddlers in many ways. And ones sees the rise and fall of wonderful brilliant people and concepts and then the fall and cover ups. One hopes we are in adolescence which is a throw back to toddler hood except one can speak and through the words out where a toddler merely acts out and screams or whatever. I hope these conceptulaizations are spread far and wide and that we all can look at how we can as humans finally group to wise maturity.
I was crying while listening to this. Crying for the victims and crying for the perpetrators. 😢 But I doubt the truth of Dr Gabor's statement that all perpetrators were victims themselves and that morality is learnt through how you're treated and not what you're told... Not all those Germans committing those crimes were traumatized. Most of them were just indoctrinated by the evil ideology of fascism. 😔
There is the question of psychopathy though, there have been many people who had good, loving, and caring backgrounds, who were just never normal. Through their teens particularly, and then in adulthood went on to commit appalling crimes, yet had all their basic needs met. Some people sadly are just wired wrong, though obviously a lot of people have been neglected/abused etc, or witness to it who go on to mimic certain behaviours. It is very interesting, though extremely worrying. People in politics who are totally comfortable on using people as pawns, as objects, not just politics, but i think there would be fairly high rates of psychopathy in politics, it seems to reward people without empathy, and are capable of manipulation, and deceit. They seem to find it easy to compartmentalize their lives.
I'm studying psychology, and can say that at the moment scientists are of the opinion that there is in fact a small subset of people who are born with a personality style that is simply lacking of emotional empathy / care for others - it is termed "callous and unemotional traits" - you can google studies on that. Personality has a large heritable component, but not 100% - it is always a combination of genes and environment. The environment either suppresses gene expression, or enhances it. If the genetic component is very strong, then the environment has less effect. However, there's the problem that if personality is largely heritable, then at least one of the parents would have similar personality traits, and so the parents who provide the genetic component are at the same time also serving as the "environment" in the formula - i.e. the problem is that the person may develop the traits more because of how their callous and unemotional parent(s) treated them, and less because of the genes those parents passed on - it is pretty much impossible to pry apart. The best way to study this is identical twins separated at birth, i.e. the environment is different and at least one is not raised by bio parents. But this is becoming a thing in the past, because we don't separate twins anymore, as this was obviously a pretty barbaric thing to do. In any case, atm they are conceptualizing conduct-dissocial disorder as having two subtypes - one with the callous-unemotional traits and the other without, while the first type has blunted emotionality and displays more instrumental violence (think someone cold and scheming), and the other, on the contrary, has high emotional reactivity, and displays mostly reactive violence (think someone often flying into rage). It is thought that the second type is more likely possible to influence with environment, i.e. these are people vulnerable to high levels of rage and prone to having fragile ego, and if the environment is bad (they are traumatized), it will develop into full-blown dissociality, but if they receive safe and nurturing environment with extremely warm caregiving (while having clear boundaries and predictability), it is possible to prevent this. The callous-unemotional types however seem to be very strongly genetically wired - there are longitudinal studies where peoples' reactions are measured as infants and later they are tested for personality traits. One study for example found that newborns who do not start crying when other newborns around them cry are more likely to have those personality traits later on (excluding ofc the babies who simply turned out to be deaf, lol), and another study found that babies with no/low fear/startle response would later test high in these personality traits (they measured skin conductivity, so these babies literally biologically startled less, it isn't that they show less response outward, it is that they really don't feel it).
I have to add though that this is really a very small percentage of people - this does NOT explain a whole society turning geno*idal. If there wasn't any such general frenzy in the society, those few people would not be able to gain a position for committing such large scale, systematic atrocities. There must be something at play that causes otherwise empathetic people to behave this way, which is an intellectually interesting question, although a horrifying topic.
I've always thought that the best German language film is 'The White Ribbon.' It so effectively showed what the result of child abuse is. My grandfather was Austrian and I don't know what his childhood was like, but he and his older brother terrorized and abused their children and their grandchildren. They broke their families, all the while being devout Catholics. They died long ago but their legacy lives on. They left behind abusers, alcoholics, and truly damaged people. They left a legacy of abuse that was taught to their male descendants. I only have to look at my family to see who perpetrated the holocaust.
In the 1950s and 60s I grew up on movies showing evil Nazis. When I came back from the Vietnam Slaughter I lost whatever moral superiority I felt over the soldiers of the Wehrmacht. And I began to see who the real war criminals were: The leaders and people who just went about their "normal" lives while my working class brothers were in that jungle hell.
13:29 Here in Italy, at least when I was in school, _La Tregua_ and _Se questo è un uomo_ were compulsory reading in high school. A chemist by training, he survived Auschwitz-Birkenau and made it back to his native Turin. This is the first time I hear he was shunned because of his stance on the Palestinian cause 😲.
The argument for early trauma experiences and the psychological consequences of this being the cause for a lack of moral sentience seems to disregard accountability and free will. I love Dr Mate’s work but I don’t think that trauma responses can account totally for the atrocities that we’re seeing being inflicted on vulnerable people on an industrial scale in the world these days. I certainly don’t think it’s a valid excuse for evil.
I agree, there are many truly evil people out there, who have not been traumatised, at least not to such a dramatic way as to account for a total lack of conscience.
Thank you for this conversation full of empathy! Just one thought here - murder or mass murder is no monopole of uneducated losers - exactly the mentioned german death squad "einsatzgruppe 101" consisted mainly of educated intelligent men, among them were pastors and other intellectuals, most of them must have been clearly aware of the split mind that they had to cultivate, in order to suppress all human feelings and emotions. Intelligence or education have never produced compassion as a side-effect.
Trauma is trauma. If a child is traumatized it doesn't matter if it's "real" or not. In some sense everyone has suffered childhood or infant hood trauma. Even you.
I doubt it, but they are all taught that Palestinians are "less than", filled with propaganda that strips away any empathy that most humans would naturally have. There is also psychopathy, which is known to have a neurobiological basis. These people are born with brains that function differently to others, in testing done on psychopathy they show that people with this disorder usually don't suffer from anxiety, they are impulsive, reckless, and cannot empathise. They are not all rapists, and murderers, but but they cause a lot of suffering. The ultimate con men basically, who are experts at manipulating people, and often seem very believable. The book Without Conscience by Dr Robert Hare, is a brilliant, fascinating though dark book. Most prisons are full of people who have been traumatised, especially when young, but there are many who were given every chance in life. Yet they chose to commit crime, and to act out their crimes for gratification.
It is as if my ideals through life have been proven to be so shallow. I believed South Africa led the way - showed us Justice could be the outcome. I always believed Palestine would come to peace. That has been taken from me in a brutal real way. My belief in the goodness of mankind has proven to be an illusion. I am having difficulty having any hope.
I think for most people inability to be in the heart IS a trauma response. But I question whether there are some physical conditions having this property - some kinds of autism for example.
Our socio-economic system is built on and developed through cooperative exploitation and abuse, incorporating de-humanisation. Add a touch of arrogance to a position of power, it wouldn’t need the moral partitioning mentioned in the video, whilst additionally providing ample scope for sadists and sociopaths to busy themselves.
I loved this topic regarding there is a nazi bit in humans but we need to control it. I think as believer in God he will restore human beings and all breathing creatures to perfection. I don’t know when but I believe he will. I hope and pray for peace all over the world🙏❤️
There are many research facilities that use various animals for test subjects and the experiments are cruel to ALL animals. I’m wondering how those people who work in the test facilities go home, have dinner, and sleep at night after subjecting the animals to incredible pain
Why can’t you see”the disconnect “in ppl who eat Animals but say they love Animals? Animals want to live & do not give up their life freely. Gabor why do u eat Animals?
Maybe I understand trauma incorrectly, because I think it’s much more than trauma that’s at play here. There’s so much of sadistic pleasure, lust for power, and outright cruelty at play that I find it hard to comprehend these are merely traumatised people carrying this out. And what does it say of us? If these are really traumatised people then why are we spectators to this murder? Why don’t we remove them through whatever means necessary and stop the suffering?!?
Can you imagine the state of the nervous system of someone who is a perpetrator? No human being can be a perpetrator without a nervous system under siege for their survival. Which means resorting to violence for the feeling of self protection they never had in their life. When a heart has been wounded it closes. That's the reality of the human being. Nobody is intrinsically evil. And finding a cause in outside circumstances is completely pointless.
@@simon01ize just explained above, early trauma and abuse that has put a tremendous stress on and inside the nervous system. Stress hormones are the rulers. See the book "For Your Own Good" by Alice Miller, the childhood story of Hitler, Staline and Caucescu.
When I visit the CO ski resorts, the opulent luxury, those people don’t think, not concerned, about the exploding homelessness and deaths of despair Which clearly is what the UHC exec represented. I do NOT believe the Luigi pelisi connected rich kid did ANYTHING other than what was programmed by MKUltra
There's an enormous amount of disinformation about the MKUltra. The murders within the program were connected to snuff movies through out the US/NATO network of military bases.
The argument for trauma experiences and the psychological consequences of this being the cause for a lack of moral sentience seems to disregard accountability and free will.
People and media always talk about Jews death/ persecution by Hitler but no body talk about Christian death during World War II and One from 1914 to 1945😢
And what is not talked about at all is the Nazi geno*ide of Romani and Sinti people and other peoples pejoratively labeled 'Gypsy'. In many places nearly half of the people in their communities were killed. Their fate was pretty much identical to Jews in the same areas, including the death camps, etc. Nowadays Germany has declared that protecting the Jews and Israel is their "Staatsräzon" - i.e. reason for the existence of the modern German state, while the Romani geno*ide is completely forgotten and they receive zero recognition as victims, not to mention any special position in the German society. Also, 2nd WW wasn't Germany's first geno*ide, they did it in Africa in their colonies before the 1st WW (google Herero and Nama geno*ide).
This site if Christ doesn't like your comment he simply erases it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dr Maté and Chris Hedges helped me feel minimally sane along this horrible year of 2024. Forever thankful.
Listening to Gabor Maté really helps me feel calmer and able to listen to news from Palestine. He’s a treasure.
I worry for the health of you faddists, should social justice be achieved anywhere.
In the middle of "The Gulag Archipelago," Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote "the line that divides good from evil passes through the heart of every man."
76 year long apartheid, 17 year long blockade of Gaza and now committing genocide. PURE EVIL
The traumatised becoming the perpetrators of trauma. Generational trauma repeating itself.
Please watch this again and again. Don’t carry hate in your heart. Action with compassion.
Sadism. Something that needs to be recognized and understood to be honest in our compassion.
Thank you Gabor! Thank you Chris!
Thank you Chris H. for posting excerpts from your powerful much needed conversation with Gabor Maté.❤
What a beautiful soul Mate has. Extremely educational and painfully true. tvvm
Chris.
Thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy along with a lesson in our collective history.
The Two.. Best of the Best..
Agreed! We are so lucky to have their deeply moral and spiritual voices in our world! Praise to Gabor and Chris and deep thanks.
Salute Chris Hedges and Mate for Being Real Human Beings with Compassion for Fellow Human Beings 🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋
Thank you for sharing 🙏 educational
Fascinating the connection between our own relative spiritual health, or lack thereof, and the collective depravity of the power systems that sadly influence human conduct to such a great degree. I so appreciate those, like these 2 fine humans, Caitlin Johnstone is another example, whose work accentuates the connectedness between our (generally poor and mostly diminishing in this system) personal well being and the sickness so pervasive in all our systems of power which tends to reward sociopathy and atomize and exile our Medea Benjamins and Chris Hedges. My own experience tells me that paradoxically my fight against my own sloth and cowardice to stand up to the evil power dynamics of our age goes far towards healing my inner failings
It takes a certain level of humanity to feel empathy toward others and to forgive oneself and others. Tragically, where entering a political moment in the US where those qualities are absent among many in power. Great discussion!
Thank you.
I've personally dealt with disconnected/broken and morally fragmented people (including women). They are everywhere .They seem to have normal lives, but in reality they are broken or evil and don't seem to care. It's frightening !! Thank you both 💙
What a valuable conversation - thank you, Gabor and Chris!
Gabor Maté's words are indispensable for our humanity.
And how is that explained? How do most Americans remain complicit in the Isr evils being perpetrated on Palestinians and ever more broadly across the ME?
They are told a story that the other guys are the bad guys, and that is always something that people want to believe in.
We refuse to see ourselves. And now the USA is being harvested and people have no context for understanding it.
And Dr. Mate too. 💕 Thank you for being voices of reason in these frightening times.
Such a mix of grief and hope in this interview.
Very interesting. I believe both these guys are very caring and very special.
The bit I would have argued Gabor Mate with is over Henry Kissinger, yes he was a mass murderer....with something missing in his brain BUT what horrifies me is the MSM and politicians PRAISED this guy when he died. Same with the My Lai massacre....when the US military helicopter pilot Hugh Thompson helped stop one of the most infamous massacres of the Vietnam War , he was hated up to his death by Americans as some sort of 'snitch'. So it is the general public who ALLOW evil to happen by their leaders that terrify me.
I don’t believe the majority of the public support corruption and murder. The truth is hidden and only comes to light decades after the event. Elites control and kill the “common man.”
That's the case in so many societies man. People just become tribal and stick with their side even when they know what their side is doing is wrong. You are right and that's why the best changes for the better come from the masses.
Yes, there's a willingness to seek comfort in identification with extremist, usually rightwing, authoritarian power. Patriarchal elements of might-is-right. They direct their loyalty and empathy toward their perceived protectors who IMO are often psycho paths.
Gabor Mate is such a great man.
A shining light to humanity.
and he is jewish,,,
Of course very highly moral man.
Lots of Jewish people are highly moral and terrified of what Israel is doing
We are all Jewish. (Human)
It’s what he isn’t that is equally as important as him being Jewish.He isn’t a Zionist.
That is modern society- unburdened by the past, by conscience
Happy new year to all the Tribe.
Thank you Gabor Mate and Chris Hedges. IMO, we also need to understand and recognize how political psychopathy operates and its relation to extremist, usually rightwing ideology and character tendencies.
BDS is the solution...hope everyone is doing their part. Humanity cried out, we won't cover our ears
Listening to this conversation between Dr. Mate and Chris Hedges truely brings both knowledge, hope, and confidence that our collective humanity will bring about an end to all atrocious injustices through the greatest superpower of them all: Empathy,- the driving force for change!
This questioning of authority and asking "why" and "what if..." Has always been with me. I studied the Holocaust and its causes for 30 years. I couldn't ignore the textbook dehumanization and apartheid I saw when finally looking into Palestine/Israel relations. The generational trauma is tragic, but should not have been inflicted on another population for Z supremacy.
Definitely exploited by z's for financial gain and power.
Thank you Gabor Mate for helping me to understand Moral Fragmentation.
For the conditioning behind the genocide see also, Laurent Guyenot's essay,'Israel, The Psychopathic Nation'
Circumstances caused my moral breakdown years ago.
This is a fantastic discussion. Rubin Blank an ego psychologist was really big on you have to accept your parents so this lends to the discussion. He also was able to talk about his toddler self and said his older sisters called him Rubin the Terrible. I think one of the ways to look and now and. the past is through a telescope and we as a civilization have been terrible toddlers in many ways. And ones sees the rise and fall of wonderful brilliant people and concepts and then the fall and cover ups. One hopes we are in adolescence which is a throw back to toddler hood except one can speak and through the words out where a toddler merely acts out and screams or whatever. I hope these conceptulaizations are spread far and wide and that we all can look at how we can as humans finally group to wise maturity.
I was crying while listening to this. Crying for the victims and crying for the perpetrators. 😢 But I doubt the truth of Dr Gabor's statement that all perpetrators were victims themselves and that morality is learnt through how you're treated and not what you're told... Not all those Germans committing those crimes were traumatized. Most of them were just indoctrinated by the evil ideology of fascism. 😔
Alice Miller wrote about the trauma of German upbringings. Strict, corporal punishment, and it is mirrored in the German holocaust.
Which one of them?
There is the question of psychopathy though, there have been many people who had good, loving, and caring backgrounds, who were just never normal. Through their teens particularly, and then in adulthood went on to commit appalling crimes, yet had all their basic needs met. Some people sadly are just wired wrong, though obviously a lot of people have been neglected/abused etc, or witness to it who go on to mimic certain behaviours. It is very interesting, though extremely worrying. People in politics who are totally comfortable on using people as pawns, as objects, not just politics, but i think there would be fairly high rates of psychopathy in politics, it seems to reward people without empathy, and are capable of manipulation, and deceit. They seem to find it easy to compartmentalize their lives.
I'm studying psychology, and can say that at the moment scientists are of the opinion that there is in fact a small subset of people who are born with a personality style that is simply lacking of emotional empathy / care for others - it is termed "callous and unemotional traits" - you can google studies on that. Personality has a large heritable component, but not 100% - it is always a combination of genes and environment. The environment either suppresses gene expression, or enhances it. If the genetic component is very strong, then the environment has less effect. However, there's the problem that if personality is largely heritable, then at least one of the parents would have similar personality traits, and so the parents who provide the genetic component are at the same time also serving as the "environment" in the formula - i.e. the problem is that the person may develop the traits more because of how their callous and unemotional parent(s) treated them, and less because of the genes those parents passed on - it is pretty much impossible to pry apart. The best way to study this is identical twins separated at birth, i.e. the environment is different and at least one is not raised by bio parents. But this is becoming a thing in the past, because we don't separate twins anymore, as this was obviously a pretty barbaric thing to do.
In any case, atm they are conceptualizing conduct-dissocial disorder as having two subtypes - one with the callous-unemotional traits and the other without, while the first type has blunted emotionality and displays more instrumental violence (think someone cold and scheming), and the other, on the contrary, has high emotional reactivity, and displays mostly reactive violence (think someone often flying into rage). It is thought that the second type is more likely possible to influence with environment, i.e. these are people vulnerable to high levels of rage and prone to having fragile ego, and if the environment is bad (they are traumatized), it will develop into full-blown dissociality, but if they receive safe and nurturing environment with extremely warm caregiving (while having clear boundaries and predictability), it is possible to prevent this. The callous-unemotional types however seem to be very strongly genetically wired - there are longitudinal studies where peoples' reactions are measured as infants and later they are tested for personality traits. One study for example found that newborns who do not start crying when other newborns around them cry are more likely to have those personality traits later on (excluding ofc the babies who simply turned out to be deaf, lol), and another study found that babies with no/low fear/startle response would later test high in these personality traits (they measured skin conductivity, so these babies literally biologically startled less, it isn't that they show less response outward, it is that they really don't feel it).
I have to add though that this is really a very small percentage of people - this does NOT explain a whole society turning geno*idal. If there wasn't any such general frenzy in the society, those few people would not be able to gain a position for committing such large scale, systematic atrocities. There must be something at play that causes otherwise empathetic people to behave this way, which is an intellectually interesting question, although a horrifying topic.
Very special. I will listen a second time at least. These two together capture that elusive truth...
Thank you.
Both of you guys are persons of great stature❤❤.
The final point is so incredibly powerful, thank you both so much
I've always thought that the best German language film is 'The White Ribbon.' It so effectively showed what the result of child abuse is. My grandfather was Austrian and I don't know what his childhood was like, but he and his older brother terrorized and abused their children and their grandchildren. They broke their families, all the while being devout Catholics. They died long ago but their legacy lives on. They left behind abusers, alcoholics, and truly damaged people. They left a legacy of abuse that was taught to their male descendants. I only have to look at my family to see who perpetrated the holocaust.
Trauma, disconnection, fragmentation: it is a powerful discourse. The world as field hospital (Pope Francis).
Thank you for this
Thank you. Watching from Alaska. 🤔
I've been saying people are fragmented for decades and nobody believed me
One listening of this profound clip of an important interview is not enough
In the 1950s and 60s I grew up on movies showing evil Nazis. When I came back from the Vietnam Slaughter I lost whatever moral superiority I felt over the soldiers of the Wehrmacht. And I began to see who the real war criminals were: The leaders and people who just went about their "normal" lives while my working class brothers were in that jungle hell.
So sorry you got taken into that horror.
Such a great show. Thank you.
Kissinger lived to a very old age. It was my hope that he would never be allowed to die. Because being Henry Kissinger was its own punishment.
This is what Zone of Interest illustrates
13:29 Here in Italy, at least when I was in school, _La Tregua_ and _Se questo è un uomo_ were compulsory reading in high school. A chemist by training, he survived Auschwitz-Birkenau and made it back to his native Turin. This is the first time I hear he was shunned because of his stance on the Palestinian cause 😲.
The argument for early trauma experiences and the psychological consequences of this being the cause for a lack of moral sentience seems to disregard accountability and free will.
I love Dr Mate’s work but I don’t think that trauma responses can account totally for the atrocities that we’re seeing being inflicted on vulnerable people on an industrial scale in the world these days. I certainly don’t think it’s a valid excuse for evil.
I agree, there are many truly evil people out there, who have not been traumatised, at least not to such a dramatic way as to account for a total lack of conscience.
Thank you for this conversation full of empathy! Just one thought here - murder or mass murder is no monopole of uneducated losers - exactly the mentioned german death squad "einsatzgruppe 101" consisted mainly of educated intelligent men, among them were pastors and other intellectuals, most of them must have been clearly aware of the split mind that they had to cultivate, in order to suppress all human feelings and emotions. Intelligence or education have never produced compassion as a side-effect.
How are IDF soldiers traumatized as children, except by propaganda? Imaginary trauma works too?
Trauma is trauma. If a child is traumatized it doesn't matter if it's "real" or not. In some sense everyone has suffered childhood or infant hood trauma. Even you.
I doubt it, but they are all taught that Palestinians are "less than", filled with propaganda that strips away any empathy that most humans would naturally have. There is also psychopathy, which is known to have a neurobiological basis. These people are born with brains that function differently to others, in testing done on psychopathy they show that people with this disorder usually don't suffer from anxiety, they are impulsive, reckless, and cannot empathise. They are not all rapists, and murderers, but but they cause a lot of suffering. The ultimate con men basically, who are experts at manipulating people, and often seem very believable. The book Without Conscience by Dr Robert Hare, is a brilliant, fascinating though dark book. Most prisons are full of people who have been traumatised, especially when young, but there are many who were given every chance in life. Yet they chose to commit crime, and to act out their crimes for gratification.
@@patriciacvener1968 Exactly! We all suffer instances when we are made to feel less than.
I hope you will go back and read/listen to Gabor Mate' explaining trauma.
I saw "Zone of Interest". Very disturbing.
Hurt people hurt people. We all do it and our humanity also lies in realizing that about each other
It is as if my ideals through life have been proven to be so shallow. I believed South Africa led the way - showed us Justice could be the outcome. I always believed Palestine would come to peace. That has been taken from me in a brutal real way. My belief in the goodness of mankind has proven to be an illusion. I am having difficulty having any hope.
It’s actually about Rudolf Höss, not Rudolf Hess. Common mistake. But I did not know about that letter; very illuminating!
I think for most people inability to be in the heart IS a trauma response. But I question whether there are some physical conditions having this property - some kinds of autism for example.
Zonists MUST BE STOPPED ✋️
This concurs with the work of Alice Miller, who looked at the background to Hitler, among others.
Anyone is capable of anything GIVEN THE RIGHT CONDITIONS/CIRCUMSTANCES.
The most shocking thing about evil is that the culprits aren't laughing and twirling their mustaches, they are just ordinary and BANAL.
Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤️ 🇵🇸🇵🇸🍉🍉
Such great information. Is Aaron related to Gabor? Aaron and Max are my gold standards for truth.
Aaron is Dr Gabor’s son.
Mate needs to watch First Kill, the Vietnam War documentary
Our socio-economic system is built on and developed through cooperative exploitation and abuse, incorporating de-humanisation. Add a touch of arrogance to a position of power, it wouldn’t need the moral partitioning mentioned in the video, whilst additionally providing ample scope for sadists and sociopaths to busy themselves.
I loved this topic regarding there is a nazi bit in humans but we need to control it. I think as believer in God he will restore human beings and all breathing creatures to perfection. I don’t know when but I believe he will. I hope and pray for peace all over the world🙏❤️
Two people who make me feel there might be hope for the human race after all.
Giving it a name - fragmentation. Humans are complex beings. Sadly, the thin veneer of civilization can be worn away so quickly.
What once was Nazism
Now Zionism.
Rudolf Hess died in 1987 aged 93.
Rudolf Hoess is the man they are referring to.
There are many research facilities that use various animals for test subjects and the experiments are cruel to ALL animals. I’m wondering how those people who work in the test facilities go home, have dinner, and sleep at night after subjecting the animals to incredible pain
Why can’t you see”the disconnect “in ppl who eat Animals but say they love Animals? Animals want to live & do not give up their life freely. Gabor why do u eat Animals?
I love Gabor. Unfortunately he brings my brokenness to the surface every time.
Maybe I understand trauma incorrectly, because I think it’s much more than trauma that’s at play here. There’s so much of sadistic pleasure, lust for power, and outright cruelty at play that I find it hard to comprehend these are merely traumatised people carrying this out.
And what does it say of us? If these are really traumatised people then why are we spectators to this murder? Why don’t we remove them through whatever means necessary and stop the suffering?!?
Can you imagine the state of the nervous system of someone who is a perpetrator? No human being can be a perpetrator without a nervous system under siege for their survival. Which means resorting to violence for the feeling of self protection they never had in their life. When a heart has been wounded it closes. That's the reality of the human being. Nobody is intrinsically evil. And finding a cause in outside circumstances is completely pointless.
Explain psychopathy then.
@@simon01ize just explained above, early trauma and abuse that has put a tremendous stress on and inside the nervous system. Stress hormones are the rulers. See the book "For Your Own Good" by Alice Miller, the childhood story of Hitler, Staline and Caucescu.
Does anybody know the name of the documentary that Gabor was talking about?
When I visit the CO ski resorts, the opulent luxury, those people don’t think, not concerned, about the exploding homelessness and deaths of despair
Which clearly is what the UHC exec represented. I do NOT believe the Luigi pelisi connected rich kid did ANYTHING other than what was programmed by MKUltra
There's an enormous amount of disinformation about the MKUltra. The murders within the program were connected to snuff movies through out the US/NATO network of military bases.
Externalizing evil to ignore one's own became too widespread once again
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The argument for trauma experiences and the psychological consequences of this being the cause for a lack of moral sentience seems to disregard accountability and free will.
Ought to have felt dread going there.
So, society should understand where Trump is coming from. He must be deeply traumatized to behave the way he does - and Musk as well.
We've all been traumatised only they didn't know it because it was a result our love affair with freedom and democracy.
People and media always talk about Jews death/ persecution by Hitler but no body talk about Christian death during World War II and One from 1914 to 1945😢
And what is not talked about at all is the Nazi geno*ide of Romani and Sinti people and other peoples pejoratively labeled 'Gypsy'. In many places nearly half of the people in their communities were killed. Their fate was pretty much identical to Jews in the same areas, including the death camps, etc. Nowadays Germany has declared that protecting the Jews and Israel is their "Staatsräzon" - i.e. reason for the existence of the modern German state, while the Romani geno*ide is completely forgotten and they receive zero recognition as victims, not to mention any special position in the German society.
Also, 2nd WW wasn't Germany's first geno*ide, they did it in Africa in their colonies before the 1st WW (google Herero and Nama geno*ide).
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Jesus said that even dirtbags are good to their families, it IS trivial
Chris, and Gabor, here we ask a simple question, Who are you, and whose are you?
This site if Christ doesn't like your comment he simply erases it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please discuss relevant ongoing stuff not same old repeated stuff everybody has heard over and over
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Intelligent guy who just rambles. Tough interview
It is an insult to the traumatised and humane to suggest that immorality stems from trauma. Itboften goes exactly the opposite way.
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