It's more difficult to over extract with an immersion brewer based on time to be fair, though not impossible. Signs of overextraction will be a "dry" mouth feel and/or astringency, or a sharp bitterness. Brew temperature plays a huge role too and should be based on your coffee beans roast level. Light roast 95-100C, med 90-95C, dark 85-90C. These aren't set in stone, just a rough guide. For example, I had a light roast coffee last week using boiling water and it felt quite over extracted with that dry mouth feel I mentioned. Coarsening the grind wasn't shifting it and I was just losing body. I lowered the temp to 98C, dryness immediately disappeared and I fined up the grind until I got something with a nice body and sweetness that I liked. If you go too fine or too cool it will taste sour or hollow/empty
Checkout James Hoffmans French Press method, you don't have to grind so coarse for french press it's probably better to grind a finer. Also whatever grinder used in these examples doesn't seem very consistent time for you to upgrade! :D
Thanks for share! For one not professional manual grinder, I am having unconsistent gring size, for example, I set 12 clicks and, I figure out that it finally means 1200 microns as the biggest particles. 30% of my grinded is about 500 microns size... 600, 800, 1000, 1200 microns, all they are about 15% each one. So I can see wide range size from my manual grinder and must I ask to you. ¿Which small micron size must be not used when methods like cupping, pour over and inmersion? Thanks to you!
I bought Folgers Blonde Silk coffee from Walmart. I didn't notice it was sized for a French press until I got it home. The standard drip coffee has an occasional big chunk in it. This looks more precision ground. Looking at the 2, the grind doesn't look that much different. Will that coffee work okay in a Capresso drip coffeemaker? Or do I need to return it? 🐀🐾
It seemed that way too me, was wondering myself. I bought from a coffee merchant today. Requested the beans be grinded for a moka pot. Was surprised when I got home and made coffee, it was very fine, I was expecting it to be a little more course. Taste terrific.
@@CaffinatedCoffee I bought 3kg's around 6 weeks back from another merchant. Not knowing much then about the various grinds, I bought filter ground. No matter what I do, in the moka pot it tastes either burnt or tasteless or too weak or too strong. I think if I make the grind finer I'll get the flavor I'm hoping for. No doubt I will. 👍
@@kirkspilsbury5059 checkout the James Hofffman videos on Moka Pot brewing. A pressurized espresso machine that can use coarser grinds may use about the same grind size as a Moka Pot but for a real espresso machine you will be grinding a lot finer than for a moka pot.
I have automated drip machine coffee maker and medium-fine grind isn’t giving me any good taste or flavour. I'm using medium roasted "North End Colombia" which is the most fresh and finest quality beans available here. When I buy espresso from their store, It's awesome!. But when I brew the same bean in my home.... It's disaster. Idk what I'm doing wrong. 😭
@@aaymanafzal2499 thanks. I know. By saying disaster I was talking about ruined flavour. It was completely burnt and ashy. I know they are different. 11month ago when I commented here I was a noob. Now I know my Grinding wasn’t right that time. A hand mill fixed it first, now I have Delonghi KG79. I'm not using drip machine anymore though. Now I'm into strong moka espresso.
@@TanmoyTheDeadBoy ah yes, if you mean a moka pot, yeah its great to use when done right. maybe check out james hoffmann's videos on it, might make your coffee even better.
I'm sorry but the chemex part is wrong, I used basically espresso fine grind and it went extremely fast, so I should go coarser obviously, but it sounds backwards from what you said.
Nope, chemex and V60 will always be quick, but despite that, use a medium fine grind for the James Hoffman method, and a coarse grind for the 4:6 method. Hope that helps.
To get a good fine grind I'm finding the new Krupps Vortex Silent blade grinder is my best option. I know blade grinders are taboo but it's an even and fine grind. Any recommendations? Manual or electric burr grinders. Preferably small and relatively quiet.
What nobody talks about is consistency over size in grind. If your grind consistency is crap, french press is good a bit finer grind with less brew time.
Lance Hedrik's or James Hoffman's videos about turbo shots talk about some scientific research on extraction. In theory the finer the grind the higher the extraction due to more surface area, but in practice that's true only up to a point. Going any finer reduces the extraction because the water can't flow freely through all the grinds.
Your Turkish coffee looks too coarse for an espresso, let alone a Turkish coffee which should be close to flour. This video is misleading and honestly I don't think you know anything about coffee. I feel sorry for the people who will waste their time here.
3:12 moka pot
Thanks
what is the grind number?
thank you
this was perfect! a close up of the grind with a nickel for scale to boot! thanks so much!
Thx for informations.I should attach this: Turkish coffee grind size like baby powder. 😊
I have been using the wrong coarse, for years. Thanks a bunch.
Excelent information!
I have an aeropress... I used fine grind and brew it for 5 minutes 🤦... I think I have been drinking over extracted coffee.
It's more difficult to over extract with an immersion brewer based on time to be fair, though not impossible. Signs of overextraction will be a "dry" mouth feel and/or astringency, or a sharp bitterness. Brew temperature plays a huge role too and should be based on your coffee beans roast level. Light roast 95-100C, med 90-95C, dark 85-90C. These aren't set in stone, just a rough guide. For example, I had a light roast coffee last week using boiling water and it felt quite over extracted with that dry mouth feel I mentioned. Coarsening the grind wasn't shifting it and I was just losing body. I lowered the temp to 98C, dryness immediately disappeared and I fined up the grind until I got something with a nice body and sweetness that I liked. If you go too fine or too cool it will taste sour or hollow/empty
My favorite grinder has always been the Krups model F203.
Quick and informative. Nice.
Great video. I now have a reference point to start from. 👍☕☕👍
Checkout James Hoffmans French Press method, you don't have to grind so coarse for french press it's probably better to grind a finer.
Also whatever grinder used in these examples doesn't seem very consistent time for you to upgrade! :D
Great video exactly the info I was looking for ty
This content is GOLD.
Thanks for share!
For one not professional manual grinder, I am having unconsistent gring size, for example, I set 12 clicks and, I figure out that it finally means 1200 microns as the biggest particles.
30% of my grinded is about 500 microns size... 600, 800, 1000, 1200 microns, all they are about 15% each one.
So I can see wide range size from my manual grinder and must I ask to you.
¿Which small micron size must be not used when methods like cupping, pour over and inmersion?
Thanks to you!
Really nice video ! Greetings from Italy
Thank you!
For classic drip machine coffee should I go more fine with paper filter or metal filter
Start at medium fine then adjust from there to your personnel preference.
Some of these grinds appear very coarse. Almost like someone just hit the coffee beans with a hammer. Wondering how the coffee would taste.
Probably bad / under extracted lol It looks very uneven so I'm guessing they used a blade grinder for these examples.
What about South Indian Filter coffee??
can't tell the exact differences till fine grind
I bought Folgers Blonde Silk coffee from Walmart. I didn't notice it was sized for a French press until I got it home. The standard drip coffee has an occasional big chunk in it. This looks more precision ground. Looking at the 2, the grind doesn't look that much different. Will that coffee work okay in a Capresso drip coffeemaker? Or do I need to return it? 🐀🐾
What is best grind size for Kuerig coffee machine
Go with the automatic pour over and adjust from there
Would you say a moka pot and an espresso machine should use the same grind size?
It seemed that way too me, was wondering myself. I bought from a coffee merchant today. Requested the beans be grinded for a moka pot. Was surprised when I got home and made coffee, it was very fine, I was expecting it to be a little more course. Taste terrific.
@@kirkspilsbury5059 Oh that's fantastic, I'm picking up a moka pot on Friday and now I'll know what grind size to go with. Thanks for the info!
@@CaffinatedCoffee I bought 3kg's around 6 weeks back from another merchant. Not knowing much then about the various grinds, I bought filter ground. No matter what I do, in the moka pot it tastes either burnt or tasteless or too weak or too strong. I think if I make the grind finer I'll get the flavor I'm hoping for. No doubt I will. 👍
@@kirkspilsbury5059 checkout the James Hofffman videos on Moka Pot brewing.
A pressurized espresso machine that can use coarser grinds may use about the same grind size as a Moka Pot but for a real espresso machine you will be grinding a lot finer than for a moka pot.
what about K-cups ?
I have automated drip machine coffee maker and medium-fine grind isn’t giving me any good taste or flavour. I'm using medium roasted "North End Colombia" which is the most fresh and finest quality beans available here. When I buy espresso from their store, It's awesome!. But when I brew the same bean in my home.... It's disaster. Idk what I'm doing wrong. 😭
espresso and drip isn't the same tho
@@aaymanafzal2499 thanks. I know. By saying disaster I was talking about ruined flavour. It was completely burnt and ashy. I know they are different. 11month ago when I commented here I was a noob. Now I know my Grinding wasn’t right that time. A hand mill fixed it first, now I have Delonghi KG79. I'm not using drip machine anymore though. Now I'm into strong moka espresso.
@@TanmoyTheDeadBoy ah yes, if you mean a moka pot, yeah its great to use when done right. maybe check out james hoffmann's videos on it, might make your coffee even better.
@@aaymanafzal2499 ask me which I didn't. James is the culprit who made me a caffeine addict. I should probably sue him. lol😅😂
I'm sorry but the chemex part is wrong, I used basically espresso fine grind and it went extremely fast, so I should go coarser obviously, but it sounds backwards from what you said.
Nope, chemex and V60 will always be quick, but despite that, use a medium fine grind for the James Hoffman method, and a coarse grind for the 4:6 method. Hope that helps.
To get a good fine grind I'm finding the new Krupps Vortex Silent blade grinder is my best option. I know blade grinders are taboo but it's an even and fine grind. Any recommendations? Manual or electric burr grinders. Preferably small and relatively quiet.
What nobody talks about is consistency over size in grind. If your grind consistency is crap, french press is good a bit finer grind with less brew time.
What coin is that?
Didn't realize they redesigned the nickel!
Yeah, no shit,eh? ATTENTION Americans: There is a whole world outside your borders! The 'www.' stands for World Wide Web.
@wingnutb. Yeah, we know. Al Gore invented it. (Lol).
Please also add a 1€ coin for reference
Great idea to show a coin to illustrate size. Shame, it is for only one country in the world.
A course grind in espresso is easier to extract. The finer the grind the more pressure and time is required to extract. This video was wrong.
The courser the less flavor
Lance Hedrik's or James Hoffman's videos about turbo shots talk about some scientific research on extraction. In theory the finer the grind the higher the extraction due to more surface area, but in practice that's true only up to a point. Going any finer reduces the extraction because the water can't flow freely through all the grinds.
@@xthebumpx, it’s a balance, not to course and not to fine. You want a brew time of about 25-30 sec, then you know your grind is correct.
Your Turkish coffee looks too coarse for an espresso, let alone a Turkish coffee which should be close to flour.
This video is misleading and honestly I don't think you know anything about coffee. I feel sorry for the people who will waste their time here.
Don't ever start a video by saying "In this video"
Why?
He didn’t?
0:10
Get a life