The Original Plans for the Obi-Wan Kenobi Trilogy
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Taking a look at the original plans for the Obi-Wan Kenobi movie trilogy.
0:00 Intro
1:27 Obi-Wan Must Leave Tatooine
3:02 Reva
4:19 Darth Vader
4:48 Commander Cody
6:09 Obi-Wan vs Luke
6:59 Sarlacc Pit
7:48 Vader vs Obi-Wan
8:34 Qui-Gon Jinn
9:09 What Went Wrong?
9:39 Darth Maul
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Popular opinion: the Kenobi series should’ve been a movie
But with different writers.
It shouldn’t have been anything
i maintain that a skilled editor could cut the existing series into a pretty decent movie
It should had been a movie, and no Leia or Reva. Should had only been about Obi-Wan and Darth Vader
I think that some fan made an edit of the series and transformed it into a movie and works way better than the series.
the movies, as you described, would have been absolutely amazing.
true
Everything he said would happen.
This script was absolutely incredible. Star Wars HAS to have the right people writing it. Somehow Disney just keeps making the wrong decisions over and over and over
How do we know tho that this is true? Because I want it to be
Thank you Theory for bringing this video to my attention today on your channel. Hopefully you and this channel could do a livestream together to get more attention on this.
Great job and thank you both.🙏👍
The worst part about the original show was the inclusion of princess leia. It has nothing to do with the poor little girl who played her either, it just doesnt work narratively and makes the whole series feel like a rescue mission rather than a character study of kenobi
It felt Logan (2017) but if Logan didn’t make sense
I don't agree at all. A whole show of Obi-Wan watching young luke be a kid sounds like lassie to me. Clearly, Leia had a backstory that went unexplored even in legends. Also, the message from Leia in ANH sounds like Leia knew obi at some point. "General kenobi, you fought for my....." just didn't sound like they didn't know each other.
You can tell it was going to be Luke but Kathleen Kennedy had to push for women and diversity above everything else. The South Park parody is so true. The same happened with The Mandolorian which is why that woman was the focus of series 3 rather than Pedro Pascal's character.
Why do people bend over backwards to avoid criticizing chold actors? Yes she was terrible, distracting.
@Avalon You came up with an imaginary narrative just to piss yourself off.... Wow kid. Clearly you know nothing of Star Wars as well. Why would they make a show about a Jedi clearly behaving like a Jedi around a young Luke Sywalker, who would have to magically forget everything in "A New Hope" rather than Leia, who clearly knew who Obi-Wan was (in the SAME film) and had a better grasp of the Jedi Order all things considered? Use your head more than your typing fingers.
Vader roasting Sidious on Yoda would have been wild to see! An over cocky Vader transitioning to the Vader we see in Empire and Return would have been cool to witness.
Pretty sure that's what we see. That's why he's so brash in Kenobi but knows Obi-Wan's plan in ANH.
This movie was so much better. It was so well written and a much superior version of the show. Damn you Disney. Thanks for covering this!
My thoughts exactly. Disney seriously has no idea what it's doing. How are you gonna reject this script and go with what we ended up with instead?
Disney has failed miserably with Star Wars. It’s fucking pathetic at this point. The sequel trilogy was horrendous, Solo: A Star Wars Story was a mess, with a huge miscast of Han, almost every tv show on Disney+ has been garbage, except for the first 2 seasons of the Mandalorian.
@@FactsDontCareAboutFeelings_97 And Andor, Rogue One, Rebels, Bad Batch, Clone Wars Season 7, Tales of the Jedi, and the Fallen Order games. Everything else sucks, including Mando S3.
@@FactsDontCareAboutFeelings_97Andor was/is a great show
It wasn’t any of those things, because it never existed
The part where it would've explored qui gon actually showing obi wan and us how a jedi is more powerful in death than in life AND explicitly said "this isn't a spur of the moment" sacrifice 🤤🤤
Dude they played us with Qui Gon, they were up front about him appearing….whaddya know! He’s only in the last 30 seconds, if that isn’t a huge “fuck you” I don’t know what is….oh right! Yes I do, an Obi Wan show propping up our shit new character no one cares about, she was stabbed twice by lightsabers (one time a child) but she so tough women mmmhmmm lol shut the fuck up Disney
Keep your thoughts here and now in the moment👍🏻
One of the problems with the Kenobi Show, is wasting time on ancillary uninteresting characters like Reva. It would have been better off as a character study of Kenobi and Vader, the rise of the Empire, and the beginnings of the Rebellion. Instead it was about Reva trying to kill Vader, Kenobi, and Luke as misdirected revenge for Order 66. For those reasons I’m sure some people will be turned off from watching upcoming seasons.
I also imagined Reva trying to kill vader at some point and obi wan saving vader/Anakin, assuming he could turn Anakin back to the light.
It would keep the episode IV duel more interesting imo. Now it kinda lost some emotional weight?
The Reva Show
Yea
Fun fact: I can't remember exactly but there was a reddit user who took the entire Obi-Wan miniseries, took out all the bad/unnecessary parts, left the good stuff in, and condensed the entire series into a 2 and a half hour movie and it's such a great improvement! I even downloaded it onto my phone
I just finished watching it! Kai Patterson is the guy who did it. You are right, he removed the vast majority of the bad stuff - there are some parts you just can't cut - and it makes for much better viewing. Reva becomes much more of a back character which is a shame - I think there was a lot of potential for her - but there wasn't anything that could be done about that given the way they had written her in the original version.
I watched it and agree, it was a big improvement.
Wouldn't taking out all the bad parts actually condense it to about 2 and a half MINUTES?
@@toddkurzbardthis
@@toddkurzbardI did enjoy the beginning of the story where we see Obi Wan as a completely broken down man, living in a cave and pretty much out of faith or a reason to live other than watching Luke from afar
We rlly are in the dark timeline where all that Star Wars has left are streaming exclusive TV shows…. This trilogy would’ve been amazing and the scenes between Kenobi and Cody sound awesome
The commander Cody ghost guardian literally seems SO cool😭
It’s a real bummer this trilogy didn’t happen. Sounds like it had some really cool and interesting ideas, plus more Qui-Gon Jinn in my book is always a good thing
I don't think Darth Maul would have worked in this trilogy for reasons B&B stated in the video.
Disney: “So, with Mando we hit it out of the park with baby Yoda. What can we shoehorn in Kenobi that’s really kid friendly? Hmmm, I’m thinking… ooh! I got it!”
Eh I mean Lucas already did that with the prequels too. “You like boba fett? Here he is as a stupid kid!” Disney isn’t the first to try and make things more appealing to young people by including kids.
@@beardedbaldbaritone I mean boba fett being in the attack of the clones makes sense
The show was like a fanfiction. I honestly don't hate it, but it's better as a non-canon series.
Says the person who never saw Part 6 and if so fell asleep or was so hungover
@@EpicJoshua314part 6 was the most offensive part of the whole show. Is a shaky camera bad choreography Vader fight all it takes to win you over?
@@groovygoblin4152 Did you seriously not watch the part where Vader says "I'm not your failure, Obi-Wan. You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker... I did. The same way I will destroy you! "Obi-Wan! OBI-WANNN!!"
And when Obi-Wan meets Luke with his famous "Hello there" and we finally see Qui-Gon again.
@@EpicJoshua314 yeah this is exactly what I’m talking about. Vader says some cheesy evil line and obi wan says a cheesy iconic line and qui gon Jin appears for five seconds at the end of the show and now the show is good?
I’m not even sure what you’re trying to get at with the quotes, they’re generic evil villain lines, or stuff dragged from previous content. You’re getting served slop and consuming it with a smile on your face
@@groovygoblin4152 Dude, this is one of the main reasons why George Lucas sold the franchise, to get all these extreme nitpicks off his back. Oh and BTW, he really enjoyed this show.
"Maul was cut out"
Half price.
Haha nice
I'm not sure if you have covered it yet, but I would love to see an episode on what could have been the Boba Fett movie as that was also another major movie that got shelved indefinitely after Solo's flop
Came here to say this!
Poor Stuart Beatie, he really got screwed.
@hewylewis yeh thi coud have been rely coll to see had th nen way tongo insted abd hers ide future vid th unmade bobba fett solo movie
@hewlylewis hers snther viddontopic idea chronicke 2 sth sequl to chronicke thst never was tht wou hadmatt fight a physchoetic evil couple nosed shibata him
@@zacharyjochumsen9677 Um... What?
@@Hewylewis I think that he says that yeah the director and his ideas were better than the final result, he doesn't like that Boba Fett was a show and not a movie, and I think that he says that this director has many good ideas for a Chronicle II movie about a couple with superpowers.
Is he dyslexic or something???
@@Hewylewiswe got too many chromosomes to understand
Wait, it was going to be a film trilogy rather than just the third Standalone Star Wars film?
Damn. And to think, if they only nailed the landing with Episode IX, things could've turned out differently.
Its hard to nail the landing when the landing gear was lost during lift off
@@iamthematti No, no, no. Have you even read the script to Episode IX? Duel of the Fates? Remember?
There was no way to nail the landing of that incompetent trilogy.
i agree with this dude, the previous script of episode IX was 10 times better, even if episode VIII was a mess, they should have kept going with it with a better director instead of a retconning with Jar Jar abrams
@@facundomendez7991 Kept going with what, though? What were the burning questions you had by the end of The Last Jedi? What were the plot arcs you wanted to see resolved? The Force Awakens was vapid member-berry bullshit fuelled by a lazy retcon; Last Jedi was a smug piece of anti-storytelling that thought it was being clever by telling you the story you didn't expect, while failing to tell an interesting story in the process, let alone discharge any of the responsibilities of the middle chapter of a trilogy.
There was simply nowhere interesting to go with that amateur hour garbage.
Joaquin Phoenix And Hugh Jackman Were Both Considered For The Role Of Obi-Wan Kenobi Before Ewan McGregor Was Cast
Hugh Jackman carry’s
Meh. Whatever.
Fun fact obi-wan Kenobi was originally called blue harvest
@@johnnycotton3217 Ha!!! Lol
@@johnnycotton3217 Mr. Sunday Movies!! Lol
I love The Prequels. I hated the Kenobi series, but this would’ve been an interesting Trilogy. Thank you for the video, Bullets & Blockbusters. 🙏
Nostalgia is a lie. They're equally bad
@@DD-zh4by “For you.”- Bane
4:26 - 4:48
Vader: "GGs"
Sidoius: "touché"
Kenneth Branagh, Bill Cosby, Patrick Duffy and a potato were all considered for the role of Obi Wan prior to Ewan MacGregor’s casting.
7:56 Though I think he already had that scar by the end of RotS (may be wrong), that actually sounds really neat. Not all Vader's scars look like burn wounds, and he's is no stranger to being in the thick of things and taking some hits. Just a small thing that adds to his legacy, so to speak.
Plus he gets his helmet cut off, like, every few years. I guess it's doing his job, keeping him from getting extra scars.
Love the putting in reva so we dont know if she dies… but its star wars
I want to see that argument between Vader and Palpatine so badly
We need a vader limited series
Glad you liked my script! Wish we could have made it!
Obi Wan knew he had mere hours to live when he rescued Luke from the sand people.
"Oh. He's not dead."
Rolls his eyes, knowingly..
"Not yet"
My weekend is immediately better with a Bullets and Blockbusters video. Also I love how passionate this channel is about Star Wars, it feels real.
Thanks :)
@@Bulletsandblockbustersyou dh do viddo un th u made bobba fet solo movie later on and wht sbut viddo onnth unmade neverending story remake from 2009
I can look into it
Opened RUclips at the perfect time 🎉
Think Disney should have done more of the special presentations like what they did for werewolf by night or Guardians Christmas. A 45 to 60 minute mini movie. Like a comic book. No filler. Keep the main point the main point. Don’t add extra characters or plots that take away for the main plot. Just a quick adventure/story of a familiar character or introduce a new one.
Star Wars could have done that with boba fett and obi wan. Marvel could have done it with she hulk and secret invasion.
Yes , I totally agree with you. It's straight to the point and that's it.
I’d also be remiss if I didn’t mention how glad I am that I discovered this channel. I don’t know if you are using some insider info on these videos or just doing an exceptional job of weaving already available info into really well articulated stories but keep up the great work. This channel is one of my favorite watches.
Imagine how the series would've been if the budget, writing and direction were on point
In a parallel universe the obi wan trilogy got made and the comments are full of people talking about how much better a mini series would have been
Haha probably
Fantastic Kenobi Story! I would have loved to see it on the big screen. Thanks for sharing it with us. Great video 😎👍👍
just your narration was a better kenobi story experiece than the one we got
Great video! I hope Obi pops up again in future movies. We need to see him on the big screen again!
Kyle Maclachlan And Tom Hanks Were Both Considered For The Role Of Qui-Gon Jinn Before Liam Neeson Was Cast
Though Liam Neeson was the better casting choice, having Tom Hanks as Qui Gon would have been hilarious. 😆
Kyle would have been cool.
The original Paul Atreides (Kyle) in Star Wars?!
@@jelliscorpio And Lucy's father in the Fallout TV series, yep.
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I love how the first director used the very source material to make his point about Kenobi leaving Tatooine
Yet another fantastic, wonderfully researched expose! Awesome channel!
Thank you kindly!
Thanks for the amazing video ❤️. Big Star Wars fan
This channel is so awesome. Love the research and the facts. Keep going!
Thanks for the kind words and will do!
I hold out hope at least two more seasons of Obi-Wan could be told to finish the trilogy idea.
It's so hard to care about SW right now but I love the channel too much to ignore. Imma give this a like anyways
I feel the same :(
Dang, I just got to see this nice job again B&B. I can see why Disney chose the series route since it was popular then, and this was made around the time of the pandemic. That being said, A Star Wars trilogy on Kenobi would’ve been a nice way to not only gain new fans once the pandemic ended but also welcome back old ones to the theaters to Star Wars movies and could’ve added to help the theaters with possible financial hits. It just adds to Disney and Lucasfilms current trend of wasted potential and playing safe.
Maul: "Kathleen, she's the key to all this.
Ahsoka: to bring balance?"
Maul: "To destory"
Based on all of Disney’s other SW efforts, it’s a miracle that Rogue One was as good as it was (ignoring the fat/fluff in the middle) …
And Andor
this sounds so much better, the thing that sold it for me was the buddy cop energy between Cody and Obi-Wan
Great stuff!
my day just got better bullets and blockbusters just dropped a new video
Feel like what hurts to most with Star Wars is the potential it has…. But what we are getting is just not what we hoped for… just like with Marvel (atleast i) hope its what makes the changes and things are getting back on track (but i know it wont)
Solo should have been a series while Kenobi should have been a movie 😂
I definitely think the whole thing with bringing back Commander Cody would have been amazing, seeing the back and forth banter between him and Kenobi would bring an element of humor to an otherwise dark story. Also, I would have loved seeing the "Force vision" duel between Obi-Wan and adult Luke on Mustafar, that would be epic!
Um this sounds so much better than what we got. And the inclusion of Codi staying back to watch Luke would have made so much more sense and given a better reason and motivation for Obi Wan to feel ok leaving the planet.
As much as I do like the Obi-Wan show for what it was (yes, even Reva), I won’t lie and say this doesn’t sound better than what we got, ESPECIALLY the Commander Cody and Reva subplots
There was this scene in a novelization of Obi Wans life i read as a kid where this ex Jedi now runs with Tusken Raiders and they're going to raid the Lars farm or something and Obi Wan takes him on in a duel. I forget the name of the guy, he was a big character in legends I think, but I wish they brought back that storyline or something like that where it's more scaled back and have Obi Wan becoming this Ronin type figure we get a glimpse of in A New Hope
Amazing video.
Thanks!
How could they have all the right answers sitting in their lap, and still come to the wrong conclusion... Disney...
Everything you describe is infinitely cooler and truer to the source material than anything Disney could conjure up
Great video 🤟
This honestly sounds amazing
Why is it, when the original script is revealed it ends up being way better then what we got. Who allowing this to happen?
Some woman nobody likes
SUCH A SHAME that we didn't get this
Interesting video. Where did you pull this information from?
Beatty discusses it in several interviews
If only we had gotten this originally planned Kenobi trilogy. Stuart Beattie clearly is a Star Wars fan who put a lot of care and thought into his script and planned films. I don't understand why Disney would think even changing from film to tv that they should have replaced Beattie and so much of his fantastic story.
The poor aim of the storm troopers in A New Hope was an intentional by Darth Vader. He didn't want them dead, he wanted to track them, thus how they found the rebel base towards the end.
9:42 Great editing.
Disney has had ample opportunities to make satisfying productions that make sense, but refuse every time.
This is miles better than what we got!
i’m ngl that “two threats” part between emperor and vader woulda been so cold😭
This actually sounds amazing, especially with the Cody and Owen subplot. I feel so deprived!
Deb chow shows she doesnt know what fans want! This script is awesome and we all wanted to see the scene from Rebels as live action. Wouldve tied into Ezra and gang pefectly. The symmetry of obi wans vision fighting luke to mustafar and lukes dagaboh scene…👍🏻
Man this would have been so much better than what we got.
Besides the writing of the sequels, the biggest mistake Disney made was dropping Lord and Miller from Solo which let it underperform after TLJ and incentivizing Disney to make shows instead of films.
Damn what a shame; Beattie's script sounds generally better than what we got- still, i was still fairly happy with the broadstrokes of what they did with the Obi Wan series, despite some stupidity (most of Leia's role, Reva surviving after being impaled by Vader)
love a star wars vid
not everything needs a trilogy
I honestly like this version better.
We were on the verge of greatness, we were *this* close
Where did you get this info?
This would’ve been literally one of the best products to come from Disney Star Wars. And that’s saying something since Reva is still in it!
Its better my only complaint is Obi Wan facing Vader before a New Hope, it actually has more impact when the last time Vader saw Obi Wan, Obi Wan cut his limbs and left him burning, so when he fights Obi Wan on the death star he was on the defensive, and learned not to make the same mistake last time, which is also a good explanation on why the fight didn't look all that great. I don't care what anyone says George Lucas stated when he made the films that the last time Vader saw Obi Wan was on Mustafar. And when Vader said Obi Wan once thought that there was good in him, he was referencing that Obi Wan always thought he was good in the Prequels, and when Obi Wan found out about Anakin turn to the darkside he stopped believing that their is any good in Anakin. Also didn't like the whole inhibitor chips thing, its established that in Attack of the Clones the clones were indoctrinated to be loyal and less independent, I think it could still work for Cody to regret trying to betray Obi Wan and want to make things right. In fact, it would have made his character better that he resist his brainwashing and join Obi Wan, far better than the inhibitor chips.
3:33 They were intentionally missing in this scene; the empire is letting them leave in order to track them to the rebel base
This sounds rad
Very interesting, would have loved to see all this
That being said i really liked the show we got despite a couple issues
The Cody stuff sounds amazing. I wonder if Hayden would have returned as Anakin though. If nothing else, maybe that’s the saving grace of the show.
The original plans for the Obi-Wan Kenobi trilogy would have featured a different storyline, including Darth Maul's return, Obi-Wan's confrontation with a vision of an adult Luke Skywalker, and the redemption of Commander Cody.
Key moments:
00:00 Disney planned a standalone Obi-Wan Kenobi Trilogy with a unique storyline involving Obi-Wan, Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker, and Darth Maul, but the project was eventually scrapped, leaving fans curious about what could have been.
-The initial plan for the Obi-Wan Kenobi Trilogy included Obi-Wan leaving Tatooine, encountering Darth Vader, and exploring a different dynamic between the characters, diverging from the existing narrative in the Star Wars universe.
-Writer Stuart Bey's pitch for the Obi-Wan film impressed Lucasfilm, leading to the development of a script that envisioned a unique evolution of Obi-Wan's character, setting the stage for a planned trilogy that aimed to delve into different aspects of the Jedi's journey.
03:22 The movie script for Obi-Wan Kenobi would have included former clone troopers with biochips, a different version of Reva, and a major role for Commander Cody, adding depth and complexity to the storyline.
-The decision to exclude the Grand Inquisitor and create the character of Reva to add suspense and uncertainty to the story.
-Commander Cody's redemption arc with the removal of his inhibitor chip and his guilt over attempting to kill Kenobi, showcasing a deeper narrative for the character.
-Obi-Wan's disconnectedness from the Force, inspired by Superman 2, and his journey back to surrendering to the will of the Force, leading to a powerful moment at the end of the film.
06:44 Obi-Wan's alternate storyline in a canceled Star Wars spin-off film is explored, including his relationship with Cody, attempt to turn Vader, and acceptance of sacrifice, leading to the pivot to Disney+ series.
-Exploration of Obi-Wan's dynamic with Cody and potential storyline involving bounty hunters and a sarlac pit, adding depth to their relationship.
-Obi-Wan's pivotal moment of trying to turn Vader to the light side, leading to a confrontation and realization of Vader's true identity.
-Obi-Wan's journey towards accepting his sacrifice in 'A New Hope' through prophecy or guidance from Qui-Gon, setting the stage for his role as a force ghost.
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The thumbnail looks sick
Obi-Wan VS Luke would have been epic
And when did they decide Leia would take Luke's place? I suspect who did it, but in the trailers we practically watched all of Luke's scenes and just Leia's hand.
This sounds 10000x better
I heard recently that another reason "Kenobi" didn't become a movie was the change in Disney leadership; Bob Chapek thought that streaming episodes would have more revenue than films made for theaters, especially during the COVID-19 pandemic...
Man, that trilogy would have been so much awesome, even better than the product that we got.
That Battle against full grown up Luke and the one vs Vader would be so awesome.
Good videos as always say man.
That original story sounds so good...
I can definitely see another trilogy of films that feature Kenobi, but are not solely focused on him. A live action return to the clone war is what fans really want, but focus on Quinlan Vos and A’Sharad Hett. Have Anakin and Kenobi, even Ahsoka and Padme get a couple scenes with time jumos or flashbacks. Then follow Vos and Hett post Order 66. For anyone who follows the comics, the story is written. A great story as Hett ends up back with the Sandpeople and becomes a warlord whom Kenobi has an exchange. People forget Boba Fett hunted Kenobi in the EU. Seems like a no brainer to me.
Commander Jet appeared in Star Wars the Clone Wars S2 E5 “Landing at Point Rain” where he leads Special Ops and Flame Thrower troopers in the 2nd Battle of Geonosis.
I don’t think Obi-Wan and Vader ever met after the “high ground” scene. In New Hope Vader says something to the effect of “We meet again, at last. When I left you, I was but a learner now I am the master.
The fact is, Star Wars (A New Hope) was a movie no one ever thought would do anything at the box office. Lucas had nothing more that very loose ideas and concepts for any more stories. Everything after was put together by the seat of the pants, what’s why there are so many inconsistencies in the SW universe.
This is soooo much better than what we got
I always thought they should have left Kenobi's fate to Vader as a plausible death. Have the slashed helmet and talk, but end it with a push off a cliff like how Obi-Wan fell into the water in Episode 3. Make the rejection more than words and not have Vader defeated in totality.
The obi wan show was amazing, some of the best Star Wars I’ve ever seen. But maybe a movie would have attracted a larger audience
Wow, much better than what we'got... Much much better
wow. this would have been amazing...